February 7, 2025 • 29 mins
Former Broncos DE and Super Bowl 33 Champion Marvin Washington joins A&Z with AROD and Zach to break down the Super Bowl 59 matchup between the Chiefs and Eagles, his time with the Broncos, what the Broncos are now doing with Bo Nix and his work with Leafwell, the world’s largest virtual care clinic for medical cannabis and a leader in data-driven cannabis research, as an advisor.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joining us now here on a to Z is none
other than Super Bowl thirty three champion Marvin Washington. Marvin,
what's going on, man? Thanks for spending some time with us.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Nothing. Man, I'm excited about tomorrow's game. I mean this
Sunday's game and kind of lambitson the like end of
the football season. It's always sad for me, but I
think we're going to have a good game too in
the season, and I'm just excited at Super Bowl Sunday
is like a holiday.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Well, let me ask you about the Super Bowl week
leading up into the big game. What are some of
your fondest memories of your time? Obviously your Denver Broncos
took Super Bowl thirty three beating the Falcons. What was
that week leading up like for you? What do you remember?
What are your fondest memories.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
The fondest memories was sharing it with my friends and
family when they flew in town, you know, my mom
and dad. My dad was still alive, and just sharing
that week with them. You know. As far as the
football side of it, the Broncos and Mike Chanehan, we'd
already put in our game plan, so once we got
to Miami, we were just touching up. You know, it
wasn't implaid, So it was just about more war about
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execution and timing and some conditioning, and yeah, we were
ready for the game, and I think that's und improvement.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
And to that.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
How different is that week leading up? You know, there
is all this extra fanfare and you know you've got
the big media day thing. Now, Just how different is
the build up to that week than any other week
during the season or any other game.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
The week is different, of course, because you know, football teams,
football players or creatures have had it and you've been
practicing and meeting the same way for seventeen eighteen weeks
and then you get to that week's and it kind
of throws it off. But they try to keep it
as normal as possible, and that's what you know, we
did that week. We try to keep it as normal
as possible as we could with the media day and
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some of the events that that we went to, But
outside of that, it was a football week. Once we
got together and got just us with the team, it
was just a football week because we were inside our
own bubble.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Was that first week how much game planning was involved
in that first week or is it kind of like
a bye week where they almost want you getting away
from football.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh no, no, no, that that first week was the
implementation of our game plan and by the time we
went to Miami that Monday or that Sunday night, we'd.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Already had our game plan in. That was a regular week.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, we practiced regular we were at the complex and
so nothing changed on that aspect. And yeah, I think
that's way teams should do it.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You've heard a lot of different players over the years
talk about how they try their best again, whether they
accomplished it or not is a different story, but they
try to make the super Bowl just like any other week. Well,
we all know it is nothing like every other week,
But how what was your mentality in terms of did
you even attempt to do that? Or you askful, how
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did you do so if you did, or what what
changed for you on that on that big week.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You know, you try to make it as normal as
possible during during the week, and the Broncos did that.
The difference is we had a eleven pm curfew and
a lot of guys, especially some of the young guys,
wasn't use of that during the week. Everybody has their routine,
but I think that kind of kept us away from
some of the stuff and shenanigans that were happening in
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Miami that week, and we got a few hours to
relax and enjoy the moment because you know, we knew
it was a once in a lifetime type of deal,
and we did that, and we did it on a
professional level. But our focus was not on the reverie
and the Super Bowl week and whatever. Our focus was
on the game and playing the Falcons and winning the
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Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Now you joined that team after their Super Bowl thirty
two victory, of course, what was the atmosphere like as
this team was trying to chase or rep you know,
the Chiefs here trying to chase a three p was it?
I mean, was it different than other years of your
career where you're just chasing a Super Bowl? Was there
this mentality of hey, let's go back to back. We've
got the opportunity to do something really special.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Here now there was there was really wasn't any talk
about going back to back. The back was you know,
the talk was to win our division, you know, and
went each week and we started out I think we
were on fourteen in a row, and we won our division,
get home and got home field advantage and take it
one at a time. Truly took it one at a time.
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And when I came, I think they were having their
Super Bowl party and whatever, but they had a lot
of veterans on the team, and they welcomed me, you know,
you know, because I had gone through some rough years
with the New York Debts as far as A one
in fifteen and three and thirteen and four and twelve
and all that. I think I served my pittons with
the Jets and the football gods for blessing me with
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the Broncos. And it was just a fun year. I
was in my hometown. I was living downtown. I was
six or seven blocks from the house that I grew
up with in my neighborhood, and I still had my
aunt and my sisters and cousins were there.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
So it was a fun year.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
So obviously, you were with the Niners the year before,
you won the Suerol with the Broncos. Then you went
and went back to the Niners, so you wouldn't have
been there for this opportunity anyway. And obviously John Elway retired,
but the Broncos, you know, they still could have it
wasn't with John, but they still could have been a
team they were in that conversation for a team that
could have three Pete obviously did not, but no one
has ever done so, no one's ever done So pat
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Riley isn't cashing those checks yet for any NFL team
to win that three and three in a row, just yet.
But he did. He trademarked it, so he is. I mean,
I tell you what, he's probably putting every single hope
and prayer into the Chiefs doing it that way, he
can cast some checks. But my question is to you,
so no, no, the fact that no team's ever done it.
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The Broncos weren't able to do it, the Patriots with
Tom Brady weren't able to do There's quite a few
teams out of that won a few in a row,
but no one's ever done it. And so for the
for the first my question is the Kansas City Chiefs,
a division rival of the Denver Broncos. Broncos Country obviously
is hoping that they can't get it done. But how
do you how do you look at this Kansas City
Chiefs team in terms of if they are able to
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three p do you think that should be a team
that should three P Are they worthy of being a
first or or do you think that it's It's not
necessarily the team that you would prefer to to see
get it done, especially as a FORIGN Bronco.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
You know what worthy and whatever, you got to earn it.
You know, if they win it, then they deserve it
and they earned it. But me personally, I'm hoping that
they don't for a number of reasons, you know, being
playing with the Broncos division rival. But outside of that
is I just think it's Philadelphia's year and they played
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pretty close a couple of years ago. But the difference
is now the teams are basically the same with some
some parts as always, but the Giants, I mean, the
Eagles have a home run hitter now in Saquon Barkley,
and I think he can make a difference, a big difference,
and he has all season, so I'm pulling for him
to UH have a big game. Records are made to
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be broken, so he's gonna break for Real's David's UH
total yard record in the season. If he gets thirty
eight more yards, I think he's gonna blow that away.
And I think the Eagles are gonna win a close,
tough game and then that's my prediction.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I think Broncos Country will be very happy with that.
And uh, I think one of the big maybe the
one of the biggest uh uh sorry got side there.
I think one of the biggest storylines with this game
are the two you know, great defensive coordinators and defensive schemers.
You know you have on the two sides of this
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matchup with Spags and the Chiefs and Fangio with the Eagles.
When you get to the playoffs and the Super Bowl,
how much more uh opponents specific do the game plans become.
Are you really zeroing in more on you know, taking
away their strengths or attacking?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Not really, you're doing that every week anyway. You know
you're doing that every week anyway. I think, you know,
you want to pay attention to their special players, Like
if you're talking about the Chiefs, you're gonna pay play
attention to Chris Jones if you're talking about the the Eagles.
And that's another guy that's gonna make a difference, Jalen Carter.
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I think you know he's gonna get to Patrick Mahomes
uh and interrupt his rhythm. You know, Patrick has time
to sit back there and pack the ball and find
the open receivers, and the Chiefs are gonna win probably
going away. But I don't I don't see that happening.
I think Jalen Carter is the other wild card that's
gonna make a difference.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Back to back to Saquon Barkley, because in terms of
reasons why teams win, I think that the Eagles chances
uh dramatically dwindle uh if Saquon doesn't have a pretty
big time day here against against Spag's defense. The importance
of the running back position, obviously playing on the on
the on the defensive side, uh, you know, just the
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running back position when when you've got an elite runner.
I know I talked with It was over New Orleans
for for for media week, and I was chacking with
chatting with CJ. Two K. Obviously he's a legendary Titans
running back. Another guy that's round for two K, and
he just says, you look at that, look at that
Eagles team, Uh, you know two years ago and what
they were and then what they've become when they add
a guy the caliber of of Saquon Barkley the Broncos. Now,
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obviously Javonte Williams, Roder Guessa, Major Lii McLaughlin, uh all
all in their own right have have have had moments
of being pretty darn good runners. But in terms of
a great runner, what do you think the Broncos could
get if they were able, whether it be be a
draft or free agency or able to trade for like
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a Jonathan Taylor, What do you think Broncos would get
with an elite runner and with this offense of what
you've seen with with with the bow Knicks and Champagn's
off Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, well, you know, I know they always talk about
the running back position is devalue. The running backs are
not that value. They're not that valuable on bad teams.
They're not that valuables on teams that have average quarterbacks
or average defense. But I think we've seen it this
year that if you put a great running back on
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a solid team like Derrick Henry did up in Baltimore
and Saquan did and Philly, the running back value value
goes up and he's probably the most valuable player on
that team. And so if the Broncos get somebody like
Jonathan Taylor, they got a good young quarterback. They got
a great offense line as their head coach, and they
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got a good defense. The Broncos be right back there,
man and the f C west Man, it's going to
be something with Pete Curle's won a Super Bowl, Andy
Reids won a Super Bowl, Jim Harbow's won a national,
a national championship. And then you got what's the other
the other team San Diego, Denver, Kansas City. Yeah, those
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are two pet Carol, Pete curl It's gonna be tough, man,
It's gonna be tough. But if they get a running
back they can make he can make a difference.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Fully agree, I'm kind of talking about those running backs
and how they can make a difference. You were part
of the broadcast team that won it Super Bowl thirty three.
Saquon Barkley right now is challenging. I think he actually
passed Treill Davis's records for most rushing yards in a season,
regular season and postseason combined that ninety seven and ninety
eight season, we're one and two all time. What was
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it like practicing against TV or just being part of
that historic playoff runt of his?
Speaker 4 (11:57):
In general? You know, my first practice, it was just
the speed of the practice in that zone.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Uh, the zone blocking scheme that Alex give had had
had implemented. It just taught me like you got to
have uh got disciplined each every gap across the line,
because if you don't, you know, and you got a
home run hitter back there, he's going to take it
out the park and take it to the house. And
I was lucky enough to see Darrell Davis do that, man,
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And it was just the joy to watch, man, because
if the Broncos offense and offense line compromised anybody's defense
with just one gap where one guy made a mistake,
Terrell was was was having a big game.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
It was it was. It was a thing and beauty
to watch.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So diving a bit more into this U this Super
Bowl matchup, Marvin, I know you just mentioned that you
you think the Eagles are going to take this one,
but I want to I want you to talk about, uh,
the the greatness for Pat Mahomes. Famously, in the last
week or so, I'm begetting quite a quite a bit
of flat because here in Broncos country, obviously, you say
one good thing about Kansas City Chiefs, then immediately you're
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you're dead to half of Broncos country, it seems like.
But in terms of appreciating the greatness of what we've
what we've witnessed over the last couple of years, you
mentioned obviously not only being worthy if they win this
sher rule, but obviously earning this thing. How do you
look at this, this dynasty and the impact that obviously
it'll have on in this matchup. What do you what
are your thoughts of kind of overall, but what the
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She's have been able to do?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
You know what? With Patrick Mahomes, I think we need
to appreciate what we're saying. You know.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I know Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson have won the
MVP the past few years, but it's just like in
back in the nineties late eighties, Michael Jordan was the
MVP and the best player in the league for about
twelve straight years. Yeah, and he only won five m vps.
I think Patrick Mahomes has been the best player in
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the NFL for the past six seven years. It's not
going to show it as far as MVP in the
regular season, but he gets his accolades and everything and
everything in the UH in the postseason and if they
win again. Then he's right up there with Tom Brady.
He's right up there with all the great quarterbacks that
have won multiple Super Bowls. But I think he'll be
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the first one with three. I know Joe Montana has
a couple of. Steve y'all, well, Troy Aikman has three,
you know, but he I think he's in that conversation.
And he's still young, so you know, the inc is
it has a dried on his career. It's still being written,
and I think we all just sit back and enjoy,
you know, because he's once in a lifetime, once in
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the generation type of.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Play, incredibly special talent.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I fully agree with you.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
But when it comes to and it's honestly really cool
to the point you're just making, we're already having these
conversations about, you know, could they de thrown Brady ord
thrown Belichick in that greatest of all time conversation? For you,
what would it take for them to dethrone Brady or
dethrone Belichick? Is it just going to come down to rings?
Is it a combination of rings in MVPs? Is it
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just you know it when you see it?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah? I think it's like you know when you see
it and if they win this one, this three in
a row, you know, and Arey II talks about like
Patrick Mahomes, he has ways to go. But Andy Reives
is only i think thirty six away from Donjula, so
he'd get that. You know, he's been pretty consistent. We
don't talk enough about the greatness of Andy Reid. You
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know what he did in Philly, what he's doing in
Kansas City, and this is like a historic run. And
I think the Chiefs are going to do everything they
can to keep this coming and do to the way
the NFL is set up with salary caps and you know,
franchise players and tags, this, that and the other. The
movement is not like it can be in basketball or baseball.
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So they're going to keep their core players and I
think they're gonna have a pretty good run. They have
a pretty good organization as far as person They don't
miss h They plugging guys and get free agents at
the right time and give Patrick Mahomes the weapons that
he needs to win.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Just a couple more here for you, Marvin, and we're
talking with Marvin Washington, former Broncos defensive end obviously won
Super Bowl thirty three with the Broncos. We're in chat
with them about Leaf Well here in a second, something
great he's doing. He's passionate about about cannabis reform. Marvin
the Denver Broncos currently, I know obviously just spent one
year here. He won the Super Bowl the Broncos. I
want to definitely ask you about the Jets here in
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a second as well. Who spent a good chunk of
your career with the Denver Broncos right now? Do you
do you pay attention to them from afar? Are you
dialed into what the big.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Every Sunday? Every every Sunday. I'm down in with them.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I love it. But Bo Nicks, man, what do you
what's your take on that on that rookie season, what
Sean Paton's been able to do? And what do you
think the what do you think that the future holds?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
You know what bow me and jalb Well from the Commanders,
I think NFL teams they need to look at that.
These are guys that mature quarterbacks have started five years
in college, you know, and so they came out they
were ready, they were ready to be developed and play
at the pro level. You know, some of these NFL teams,
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they take guys that's been two year starters and one
year starters and what have you. But if you take
a guy like that's a five year starter, and Bill
Parceales has some sort of criteria where I would take
a guy that started three years graduate, this, that, and
the other. I think those two hit on all of them,
you know. And last year before the draft, I was
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saying if anybody was going to make it, I wasn't
that high on Jayden, but I was high on bow Knicks,
you know, saying send him in the SEC Conference, in
him in the pack sixteen, big ten.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Whatever it was at the time.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
But I knew he had the biggest chance to make
it because number one, he had started five years in college,
played a lot of football. Number Two, he was going
to an offensive minded coach that had had successful quarterback before,
and so he fell into the right place.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
And I think his arrow is going to come up.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
And that's the guys who's going to challenge the Chiefs
dynasty in a deep AFC West with you know, with Herbert,
with Mahomes and bo Nicks. You know, those are the
three of the top ten quarterbacks to me in my
mind going into next year.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I fully agree. I think that's going to be an
amazing division race to watch. Fun to have the Broncos
back in the mix there. Kind of to the other
end of the spectrum though, with your Jets, how do
you feel about their I guess latest turnaround effort bringing
in Aaron Glenn, bringing in Darren Mouji from the Broncos,
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and then how do you what do you think is
holding them down consistently or holding them back? Is it
team culture? Is it just bad luck with quarterbacks or
what is it to you?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I think it's culture. You know, the Jets practice is hard,
and have good players and what have you. But it's
a culture, you know, because I'd gone from a culture
that wasn't conducive to the winning to two coaches that
were conducive to winning.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
And that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And I've told the reporters up here that if they
get out of Aaron Glenn's way, let him implement his
program and the GM and they put their program together
and it's all about football, then the Jets are going
to have the chance to to you know, have successful seasons,
go deep into the playoffs, and have a chance to
play for the Lombardi Trophy. But if they still get
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interference from you know, upstairs and the owners, I don't
think it's going to be successful at all. And the
last thing I said about that is I know Aaron
Glenn will not disappoint the Jets. I just hope the
Jets don't disappoint him.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Mr Marvin, let's let's let's talk. Let's talk about leaf Well.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Man.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I know, obviously after after you retire, you you turned
to something you're really passionate about, which is obviously Canadis reform.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You know you've been a long term advocate for for
potential cannabis, you know, for pain management also you know
traumatic brain injury CTE and Leafwell. I was reading up
on man. Yeah, the world's largest virtual care clinic from
medical cannabis and they've got that that the the data
driven cannabis research, and you're an advisor with them. Tell
us about leaf well.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Uh. I think leafhole is something that you know, those
that have been in cannabis for over a decade, like myself,
we've always envisioned something like this happened because most of
the stuff that you hear about cannabis, as far as
the medicinal benefits have been anecdotally. Now leaf Well is
bringing the data, the science, and the stats to it
and showing how it can improve your life and your workforce.
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You know through doctors, you know, doctors, patients and then
the science that we have and it's candi caare telement
and it's making cannabis what it is. Cannabis is medicine
and leaf Well believes it's medicine and leaf Well can
prove it's improved that it's medicine. And the thing is
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is that I tell people like, nobody's trying to get
high just to get high. Everybody's trying to feel better,
and Leakwell has the stats that can show that you
can feel better and you are better. As far as
it cuts down on doctors visit, it cuts down on
the prescriptions of opiates and benzo diazepines. It makes a
healthier workforce. And so these are things that leap Well
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is taking to municipalities, they're taking to labor unions, and
they're taking the sports cheams.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
You've been having cows, That's exactly where I was going
to go. You've been having conversations with different players' unions
to integrate integrate this through the CBAS. How have those
conversations gone, when of those conversations begin, and how do
you vision the hopefully those conversationss conversations continuing.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
You know, it just started, okay. And my first target
was the NBA alumni because the NBA has always been
the most progressive league as far as social and social issue.
And I had a very good conversation with a board
member and it's happened in like a perfect storm with
the NBA union because they're the first union. They gave
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their players full on healthcare and this guy is a
proponent of it. We played for the same guy because
I played basketball for Don Haskins and he was on
the seventy two Olympic team, so he knows about cannabis
and he's going to take you to the board. And
they just got a new president who was a guy
that I hosted when I was at playing basketball YouTube,
Antonio Davis. And so when they're All Star weekend, this
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is the leak. Well, we sent him a nice little
package information package for the board to go over and
we expect to hear back from that. And this week
I've touched base with Major League Baseball and I haven't
touched with the NFLPA yet, but I'm going to next week.
Everybody this month a big four and I think you
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know the thing is is once they hear what here,
what leak Will has offer and just follow the science,
I think our reception is going to be as good
as it was with the n n B A p A.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
One thing I'm curious about with leef well is I
mean you talking with all these different UH athlete unions,
it's clearly been a solution for you in your post
sports career. Why why do you endorse cannabis? Why do
you think it is such a great UH tool for
these athletes in their you know, post career journey.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
You know what, if you want to talk about like vice, vice,
drugs and advices, I would put cannabis above alcohol. I
would put cannabis above opiates and benzo diazepines because it's
non toxic, non addictive, it's natural, and we've been medicating
with cannabis for thousands and thousands of years and we're
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getting back to it now. We have something that we're
combining with doctor's patients. And in insurance too, I figure
I had left that part out in insurance companies to
give the candid care, canic care and give up our
patients the best results that they can get. That's what
it is, and it's non toxic, non addictive. And so
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also we can show you how you can mitigate the
use of cannabis because going into a school district, you know,
and in a legal state, your staff is probably already
medicating with cannabis anyway. But you don't want your fifth
grade math teacher tripping out in a classroom because she
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took the wrong dolsach or the wrong strain you get
with a doctor. You get the right strain for your
indication and know how to take it. You'll have a
healthier workforce.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Last question here on leaf well Marve before we get
your official score prediction of Super Bowl fifty nine, what
do you envision the next five ten years if you
had to perfectly lay out the roadmap for the cannabis
industry and how it addresses pay management and everything with
you know, like I said, with the brain injury and CTE,
the assistance with the Canadis industry and the cannabis industry.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
As a whole.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
What does that roadmap look like in a perfect scenario
for you, for the last for the next five ten years.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
You know, when I first got in there was everything
was if if IF. Now it's win, and I think
leap Wolls is going to go a long way into
to to having that win. And we're showing that it
can work. And I think it's going to work with
through municipalities, through unions, throughout society, you know, because we're
going to lose a generation if we keep going down
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that opiate addiction track that we're on right now. And
we're talking about plant based medicine, and plant based medicine
is going to be led by cannabis, you know. I
know there are other plant based medicine with psychoedolts and mushrooms,
what have you. But I think it's going to be
led by cannabis. And with what leap Well is doing
in the platform that they have, I think other people
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are going to try to duplicate it, to replicate it,
but we're going to lead the way man, And I'm
excited about I'm excited about taking it to my union.
I'm excited about given former players.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
You know, like.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
There's thirty two hundred current players, but through twenty two
thousand former players that can benefit from it, and most
of them are still dealing with opiate addiction and benzo
with diazepine addiction and all those other things and health
addiction CTE and anxiety and whatever. In cannabis can be
the cure, and I'm excited about and I think if
you projected out five or ten years, you're gonna see
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it's gonna be legal on the federal level, and it's
going to be tax and regulated just like they do alcohol.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Real quick, of any of your teammates from the Broncos
shr ROWL thirty three squad joined in at least maybe
not just would leave well, but anyone else on this,
on this on this fight as.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Well, a lot most of them have. Most of them have.
And I can remember Super Bowl eighteen in twenty eighteen,
I was in Minnesota and I had a conversation about
Terrell Davis and I know he jumped into the pool
with a CBD company, and a lot of my teammates
from that team, and throughout my career, you know, they
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come to me for cannabis advice, and I've been in
the industry long enough to send them products that can
help them, whether it's a CBD or if it's if
they're close by whatever I hand and liver from some
thac products. But cannabis is medicine, always has been, always
will be. And I'm with the largest integrated telemed cannabis
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company in the industry, and I'm happy to keep pushing
this ball down down the field.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Well Leaf, Well is going to do well with you
as an advisor and really an ambassador for this because
that's fascinating stuff. So we're thrilled to hear about that. Finally,
before we let you go official prediction. Now you said Eagles,
but official score prediction? How you think the game's going
to kind of go? And then who's super Bowl MVP?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Uh? Super Bowl MVP? Say Kuon Barkley h twenty eight,
twenty twenty eight, twenty four.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
The Egles.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
It's gonna be a tough game and the team that
makes the least amount of mistakes is gonna win. But
look out for the two players that I told you about,
Jalen Carter and Samon Barkley. I think they're gonna make
a world of difference.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
All right, Marvin Well, it's been an absolute tree and
absolute pleasure for both Zach and I. Here on a
to z you're officially our first guest here on the
show because this is our new platform here, a new
podcast underneath the umbrella of the Broncos flagship radio station KOA.
So we appreciate you you breaking that barrier for us,
and that was awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Hey, listen, this was awesome man. And KOA is like
a legendary iconic station, whether it was the radio or
TV in Denver. And like I said, I'm from Denver
and I'm happy to do it with you guys. And
next year, hopefully we'll be talking about the Broncos been
in this position, and then I'll be a Homer all
the way.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yes, yes, And then we'll have to get we'll have
to get on Radio Row there in sand We'll have
you join us there.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
On I'll I'll be joined with all my leaf boy
gear and when we'll tell you about the progress that
leaf Well has made in the year.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
All right, Marvin, it's been a treat, but we appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
All right, thank you, thank you for the time. Have
a good weekend, guys.
Joining us now here on a to Z is none
other than Super Bowl thirty three champion Marvin Washington. Marvin,
what's going on, man? Thanks for spending some time with us.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Nothing. Man, I'm excited about tomorrow's game. I mean this
Sunday's game and kind of lambitson the like end of
the football season. It's always sad for me, but I
think we're going to have a good game too in
the season, and I'm just excited at Super Bowl Sunday
is like a holiday.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Well, let me ask you about the Super Bowl week
leading up into the big game. What are some of
your fondest memories of your time? Obviously your Denver Broncos
took Super Bowl thirty three beating the Falcons. What was
that week leading up like for you? What do you remember?
What are your fondest memories.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
The fondest memories was sharing it with my friends and
family when they flew in town, you know, my mom
and dad. My dad was still alive, and just sharing
that week with them. You know. As far as the
football side of it, the Broncos and Mike Chanehan, we'd
already put in our game plan, so once we got
to Miami, we were just touching up. You know, it
wasn't implaid, So it was just about more war about
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execution and timing and some conditioning, and yeah, we were
ready for the game, and I think that's und improvement.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
And to that.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
How different is that week leading up? You know, there
is all this extra fanfare and you know you've got
the big media day thing. Now, Just how different is
the build up to that week than any other week
during the season or any other game.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
The week is different, of course, because you know, football teams,
football players or creatures have had it and you've been
practicing and meeting the same way for seventeen eighteen weeks
and then you get to that week's and it kind
of throws it off. But they try to keep it
as normal as possible, and that's what you know, we
did that week. We try to keep it as normal
as possible as we could with the media day and
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some of the events that that we went to, But
outside of that, it was a football week. Once we
got together and got just us with the team, it
was just a football week because we were inside our
own bubble.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Was that first week how much game planning was involved
in that first week or is it kind of like
a bye week where they almost want you getting away
from football.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh no, no, no, that that first week was the
implementation of our game plan and by the time we
went to Miami that Monday or that Sunday night, we'd.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Already had our game plan in. That was a regular week.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, we practiced regular we were at the complex and
so nothing changed on that aspect. And yeah, I think
that's way teams should do it.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You've heard a lot of different players over the years
talk about how they try their best again, whether they
accomplished it or not is a different story, but they
try to make the super Bowl just like any other week. Well,
we all know it is nothing like every other week,
But how what was your mentality in terms of did
you even attempt to do that? Or you askful, how
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did you do so if you did, or what what
changed for you on that on that big week.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You know, you try to make it as normal as
possible during during the week, and the Broncos did that.
The difference is we had a eleven pm curfew and
a lot of guys, especially some of the young guys,
wasn't use of that during the week. Everybody has their routine,
but I think that kind of kept us away from
some of the stuff and shenanigans that were happening in
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Miami that week, and we got a few hours to
relax and enjoy the moment because you know, we knew
it was a once in a lifetime type of deal,
and we did that, and we did it on a
professional level. But our focus was not on the reverie
and the Super Bowl week and whatever. Our focus was
on the game and playing the Falcons and winning the
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Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Now you joined that team after their Super Bowl thirty
two victory, of course, what was the atmosphere like as
this team was trying to chase or rep you know,
the Chiefs here trying to chase a three p was it?
I mean, was it different than other years of your
career where you're just chasing a Super Bowl? Was there
this mentality of hey, let's go back to back. We've
got the opportunity to do something really special.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Here now there was there was really wasn't any talk
about going back to back. The back was you know,
the talk was to win our division, you know, and
went each week and we started out I think we
were on fourteen in a row, and we won our division,
get home and got home field advantage and take it
one at a time. Truly took it one at a time.
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And when I came, I think they were having their
Super Bowl party and whatever, but they had a lot
of veterans on the team, and they welcomed me, you know,
you know, because I had gone through some rough years
with the New York Debts as far as A one
in fifteen and three and thirteen and four and twelve
and all that. I think I served my pittons with
the Jets and the football gods for blessing me with
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the Broncos. And it was just a fun year. I
was in my hometown. I was living downtown. I was
six or seven blocks from the house that I grew
up with in my neighborhood, and I still had my
aunt and my sisters and cousins were there.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
So it was a fun year.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
So obviously, you were with the Niners the year before,
you won the Suerol with the Broncos. Then you went
and went back to the Niners, so you wouldn't have
been there for this opportunity anyway. And obviously John Elway retired,
but the Broncos, you know, they still could have it
wasn't with John, but they still could have been a
team they were in that conversation for a team that
could have three Pete obviously did not, but no one
has ever done so, no one's ever done So pat
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Riley isn't cashing those checks yet for any NFL team
to win that three and three in a row, just yet.
But he did. He trademarked it, so he is. I mean,
I tell you what, he's probably putting every single hope
and prayer into the Chiefs doing it that way, he
can cast some checks. But my question is to you,
so no, no, the fact that no team's ever done it.
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The Broncos weren't able to do it, the Patriots with
Tom Brady weren't able to do There's quite a few
teams out of that won a few in a row,
but no one's ever done it. And so for the
for the first my question is the Kansas City Chiefs,
a division rival of the Denver Broncos. Broncos Country obviously
is hoping that they can't get it done. But how
do you how do you look at this Kansas City
Chiefs team in terms of if they are able to
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three p do you think that should be a team
that should three P Are they worthy of being a
first or or do you think that it's It's not
necessarily the team that you would prefer to to see
get it done, especially as a FORIGN Bronco.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
You know what worthy and whatever, you got to earn it.
You know, if they win it, then they deserve it
and they earned it. But me personally, I'm hoping that
they don't for a number of reasons, you know, being
playing with the Broncos division rival. But outside of that
is I just think it's Philadelphia's year and they played
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pretty close a couple of years ago. But the difference
is now the teams are basically the same with some
some parts as always, but the Giants, I mean, the
Eagles have a home run hitter now in Saquon Barkley,
and I think he can make a difference, a big difference,
and he has all season, so I'm pulling for him
to UH have a big game. Records are made to
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be broken, so he's gonna break for Real's David's UH
total yard record in the season. If he gets thirty
eight more yards, I think he's gonna blow that away.
And I think the Eagles are gonna win a close,
tough game and then that's my prediction.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I think Broncos Country will be very happy with that.
And uh, I think one of the big maybe the
one of the biggest uh uh sorry got side there.
I think one of the biggest storylines with this game
are the two you know, great defensive coordinators and defensive schemers.
You know you have on the two sides of this
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matchup with Spags and the Chiefs and Fangio with the Eagles.
When you get to the playoffs and the Super Bowl,
how much more uh opponents specific do the game plans become.
Are you really zeroing in more on you know, taking
away their strengths or attacking?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Not really, you're doing that every week anyway. You know
you're doing that every week anyway. I think, you know,
you want to pay attention to their special players, Like
if you're talking about the Chiefs, you're gonna pay play
attention to Chris Jones if you're talking about the the Eagles.
And that's another guy that's gonna make a difference, Jalen Carter.
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I think you know he's gonna get to Patrick Mahomes
uh and interrupt his rhythm. You know, Patrick has time
to sit back there and pack the ball and find
the open receivers, and the Chiefs are gonna win probably
going away. But I don't I don't see that happening.
I think Jalen Carter is the other wild card that's
gonna make a difference.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Back to back to Saquon Barkley, because in terms of
reasons why teams win, I think that the Eagles chances
uh dramatically dwindle uh if Saquon doesn't have a pretty
big time day here against against Spag's defense. The importance
of the running back position, obviously playing on the on
the on the defensive side, uh, you know, just the
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running back position when when you've got an elite runner.
I know I talked with It was over New Orleans
for for for media week, and I was chacking with
chatting with CJ. Two K. Obviously he's a legendary Titans
running back. Another guy that's round for two K, and
he just says, you look at that, look at that
Eagles team, Uh, you know two years ago and what
they were and then what they've become when they add
a guy the caliber of of Saquon Barkley the Broncos. Now,
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obviously Javonte Williams, Roder Guessa, Major Lii McLaughlin, uh all
all in their own right have have have had moments
of being pretty darn good runners. But in terms of
a great runner, what do you think the Broncos could
get if they were able, whether it be be a
draft or free agency or able to trade for like
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a Jonathan Taylor, What do you think Broncos would get
with an elite runner and with this offense of what
you've seen with with with the bow Knicks and Champagn's
off Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, well, you know, I know they always talk about
the running back position is devalue. The running backs are
not that value. They're not that valuable on bad teams.
They're not that valuables on teams that have average quarterbacks
or average defense. But I think we've seen it this
year that if you put a great running back on
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a solid team like Derrick Henry did up in Baltimore
and Saquan did and Philly, the running back value value
goes up and he's probably the most valuable player on
that team. And so if the Broncos get somebody like
Jonathan Taylor, they got a good young quarterback. They got
a great offense line as their head coach, and they
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got a good defense. The Broncos be right back there,
man and the f C west Man, it's going to
be something with Pete Curle's won a Super Bowl, Andy
Reids won a Super Bowl, Jim Harbow's won a national,
a national championship. And then you got what's the other
the other team San Diego, Denver, Kansas City. Yeah, those
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are two pet Carol, Pete curl It's gonna be tough, man,
It's gonna be tough. But if they get a running
back they can make he can make a difference.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Fully agree, I'm kind of talking about those running backs
and how they can make a difference. You were part
of the broadcast team that won it Super Bowl thirty three.
Saquon Barkley right now is challenging. I think he actually
passed Treill Davis's records for most rushing yards in a season,
regular season and postseason combined that ninety seven and ninety
eight season, we're one and two all time. What was
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it like practicing against TV or just being part of
that historic playoff runt of his?
Speaker 4 (11:57):
In general? You know, my first practice, it was just
the speed of the practice in that zone.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Uh, the zone blocking scheme that Alex give had had
had implemented. It just taught me like you got to
have uh got disciplined each every gap across the line,
because if you don't, you know, and you got a
home run hitter back there, he's going to take it
out the park and take it to the house. And
I was lucky enough to see Darrell Davis do that, man,
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And it was just the joy to watch, man, because
if the Broncos offense and offense line compromised anybody's defense
with just one gap where one guy made a mistake,
Terrell was was was having a big game.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
It was it was. It was a thing and beauty
to watch.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So diving a bit more into this U this Super
Bowl matchup, Marvin, I know you just mentioned that you
you think the Eagles are going to take this one,
but I want to I want you to talk about, uh,
the the greatness for Pat Mahomes. Famously, in the last
week or so, I'm begetting quite a quite a bit
of flat because here in Broncos country, obviously, you say
one good thing about Kansas City Chiefs, then immediately you're
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you're dead to half of Broncos country, it seems like.
But in terms of appreciating the greatness of what we've
what we've witnessed over the last couple of years, you
mentioned obviously not only being worthy if they win this
sher rule, but obviously earning this thing. How do you
look at this, this dynasty and the impact that obviously
it'll have on in this matchup. What do you what
are your thoughts of kind of overall, but what the
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She's have been able to do?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
You know what? With Patrick Mahomes, I think we need
to appreciate what we're saying. You know.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I know Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson have won the
MVP the past few years, but it's just like in
back in the nineties late eighties, Michael Jordan was the
MVP and the best player in the league for about
twelve straight years. Yeah, and he only won five m vps.
I think Patrick Mahomes has been the best player in
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the NFL for the past six seven years. It's not
going to show it as far as MVP in the
regular season, but he gets his accolades and everything and
everything in the UH in the postseason and if they
win again. Then he's right up there with Tom Brady.
He's right up there with all the great quarterbacks that
have won multiple Super Bowls. But I think he'll be
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the first one with three. I know Joe Montana has
a couple of. Steve y'all, well, Troy Aikman has three,
you know, but he I think he's in that conversation.
And he's still young, so you know, the inc is
it has a dried on his career. It's still being written,
and I think we all just sit back and enjoy,
you know, because he's once in a lifetime, once in
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the generation type of.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Play, incredibly special talent.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I fully agree with you.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
But when it comes to and it's honestly really cool
to the point you're just making, we're already having these
conversations about, you know, could they de thrown Brady ord
thrown Belichick in that greatest of all time conversation? For you,
what would it take for them to dethrone Brady or
dethrone Belichick? Is it just going to come down to rings?
Is it a combination of rings in MVPs? Is it
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just you know it when you see it?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah? I think it's like you know when you see
it and if they win this one, this three in
a row, you know, and Arey II talks about like
Patrick Mahomes, he has ways to go. But Andy Reives
is only i think thirty six away from Donjula, so
he'd get that. You know, he's been pretty consistent. We
don't talk enough about the greatness of Andy Reid. You
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know what he did in Philly, what he's doing in
Kansas City, and this is like a historic run. And
I think the Chiefs are going to do everything they
can to keep this coming and do to the way
the NFL is set up with salary caps and you know,
franchise players and tags, this, that and the other. The
movement is not like it can be in basketball or baseball.
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So they're going to keep their core players and I
think they're gonna have a pretty good run. They have
a pretty good organization as far as person They don't
miss h They plugging guys and get free agents at
the right time and give Patrick Mahomes the weapons that
he needs to win.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Just a couple more here for you, Marvin, and we're
talking with Marvin Washington, former Broncos defensive end obviously won
Super Bowl thirty three with the Broncos. We're in chat
with them about Leaf Well here in a second, something
great he's doing. He's passionate about about cannabis reform. Marvin
the Denver Broncos currently, I know obviously just spent one
year here. He won the Super Bowl the Broncos. I
want to definitely ask you about the Jets here in
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a second as well. Who spent a good chunk of
your career with the Denver Broncos right now? Do you
do you pay attention to them from afar? Are you
dialed into what the big.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Every Sunday? Every every Sunday. I'm down in with them.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I love it. But Bo Nicks, man, what do you
what's your take on that on that rookie season, what
Sean Paton's been able to do? And what do you
think the what do you think that the future holds?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
You know what bow me and jalb Well from the Commanders,
I think NFL teams they need to look at that.
These are guys that mature quarterbacks have started five years
in college, you know, and so they came out they
were ready, they were ready to be developed and play
at the pro level. You know, some of these NFL teams,
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they take guys that's been two year starters and one
year starters and what have you. But if you take
a guy like that's a five year starter, and Bill
Parceales has some sort of criteria where I would take
a guy that started three years graduate, this, that, and
the other. I think those two hit on all of them,
you know. And last year before the draft, I was
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saying if anybody was going to make it, I wasn't
that high on Jayden, but I was high on bow Knicks,
you know, saying send him in the SEC Conference, in
him in the pack sixteen, big ten.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Whatever it was at the time.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
But I knew he had the biggest chance to make
it because number one, he had started five years in college,
played a lot of football. Number Two, he was going
to an offensive minded coach that had had successful quarterback before,
and so he fell into the right place.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
And I think his arrow is going to come up.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
And that's the guys who's going to challenge the Chiefs
dynasty in a deep AFC West with you know, with Herbert,
with Mahomes and bo Nicks. You know, those are the
three of the top ten quarterbacks to me in my
mind going into next year.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I fully agree. I think that's going to be an
amazing division race to watch. Fun to have the Broncos
back in the mix there. Kind of to the other
end of the spectrum though, with your Jets, how do
you feel about their I guess latest turnaround effort bringing
in Aaron Glenn, bringing in Darren Mouji from the Broncos,
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and then how do you what do you think is
holding them down consistently or holding them back? Is it
team culture? Is it just bad luck with quarterbacks or
what is it to you?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I think it's culture. You know, the Jets practice is hard,
and have good players and what have you. But it's
a culture, you know, because I'd gone from a culture
that wasn't conducive to the winning to two coaches that
were conducive to winning.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
And that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And I've told the reporters up here that if they
get out of Aaron Glenn's way, let him implement his
program and the GM and they put their program together
and it's all about football, then the Jets are going
to have the chance to to you know, have successful seasons,
go deep into the playoffs, and have a chance to
play for the Lombardi Trophy. But if they still get
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interference from you know, upstairs and the owners, I don't
think it's going to be successful at all. And the
last thing I said about that is I know Aaron
Glenn will not disappoint the Jets. I just hope the
Jets don't disappoint him.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Mr Marvin, let's let's let's talk. Let's talk about leaf Well.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Man.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I know, obviously after after you retire, you you turned
to something you're really passionate about, which is obviously Canadis reform.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You know you've been a long term advocate for for
potential cannabis, you know, for pain management also you know
traumatic brain injury CTE and Leafwell. I was reading up
on man. Yeah, the world's largest virtual care clinic from
medical cannabis and they've got that that the the data
driven cannabis research, and you're an advisor with them. Tell
us about leaf well.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Uh. I think leafhole is something that you know, those
that have been in cannabis for over a decade, like myself,
we've always envisioned something like this happened because most of
the stuff that you hear about cannabis, as far as
the medicinal benefits have been anecdotally. Now leaf Well is
bringing the data, the science, and the stats to it
and showing how it can improve your life and your workforce.
(20:45):
You know through doctors, you know, doctors, patients and then
the science that we have and it's candi caare telement
and it's making cannabis what it is. Cannabis is medicine
and leaf Well believes it's medicine and leaf Well can
prove it's improved that it's medicine. And the thing is
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is that I tell people like, nobody's trying to get
high just to get high. Everybody's trying to feel better,
and Leakwell has the stats that can show that you
can feel better and you are better. As far as
it cuts down on doctors visit, it cuts down on
the prescriptions of opiates and benzo diazepines. It makes a
healthier workforce. And so these are things that leap Well
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is taking to municipalities, they're taking to labor unions, and
they're taking the sports cheams.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
You've been having cows, That's exactly where I was going
to go. You've been having conversations with different players' unions
to integrate integrate this through the CBAS. How have those
conversations gone, when of those conversations begin, and how do
you vision the hopefully those conversationss conversations continuing.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
You know, it just started, okay. And my first target
was the NBA alumni because the NBA has always been
the most progressive league as far as social and social issue.
And I had a very good conversation with a board
member and it's happened in like a perfect storm with
the NBA union because they're the first union. They gave
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their players full on healthcare and this guy is a
proponent of it. We played for the same guy because
I played basketball for Don Haskins and he was on
the seventy two Olympic team, so he knows about cannabis
and he's going to take you to the board. And
they just got a new president who was a guy
that I hosted when I was at playing basketball YouTube,
Antonio Davis. And so when they're All Star weekend, this
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is the leak. Well, we sent him a nice little
package information package for the board to go over and
we expect to hear back from that. And this week
I've touched base with Major League Baseball and I haven't
touched with the NFLPA yet, but I'm going to next week.
Everybody this month a big four and I think you
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know the thing is is once they hear what here,
what leak Will has offer and just follow the science,
I think our reception is going to be as good
as it was with the n n B A p A.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
One thing I'm curious about with leef well is I
mean you talking with all these different UH athlete unions,
it's clearly been a solution for you in your post
sports career. Why why do you endorse cannabis? Why do
you think it is such a great UH tool for
these athletes in their you know, post career journey.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
You know what, if you want to talk about like vice, vice,
drugs and advices, I would put cannabis above alcohol. I
would put cannabis above opiates and benzo diazepines because it's
non toxic, non addictive, it's natural, and we've been medicating
with cannabis for thousands and thousands of years and we're
(23:54):
getting back to it now. We have something that we're
combining with doctor's patients. And in insurance too, I figure
I had left that part out in insurance companies to
give the candid care, canic care and give up our
patients the best results that they can get. That's what
it is, and it's non toxic, non addictive. And so
(24:15):
also we can show you how you can mitigate the
use of cannabis because going into a school district, you know,
and in a legal state, your staff is probably already
medicating with cannabis anyway. But you don't want your fifth
grade math teacher tripping out in a classroom because she
(24:36):
took the wrong dolsach or the wrong strain you get
with a doctor. You get the right strain for your
indication and know how to take it. You'll have a
healthier workforce.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Last question here on leaf well Marve before we get
your official score prediction of Super Bowl fifty nine, what
do you envision the next five ten years if you
had to perfectly lay out the roadmap for the cannabis
industry and how it addresses pay management and everything with
you know, like I said, with the brain injury and CTE,
the assistance with the Canadis industry and the cannabis industry.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
As a whole.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
What does that roadmap look like in a perfect scenario
for you, for the last for the next five ten years.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
You know, when I first got in there was everything
was if if IF. Now it's win, and I think
leap Wolls is going to go a long way into
to to having that win. And we're showing that it
can work. And I think it's going to work with
through municipalities, through unions, throughout society, you know, because we're
going to lose a generation if we keep going down
(25:32):
that opiate addiction track that we're on right now. And
we're talking about plant based medicine, and plant based medicine
is going to be led by cannabis, you know. I
know there are other plant based medicine with psychoedolts and mushrooms,
what have you. But I think it's going to be
led by cannabis. And with what leap Well is doing
in the platform that they have, I think other people
(25:53):
are going to try to duplicate it, to replicate it,
but we're going to lead the way man, And I'm
excited about I'm excited about taking it to my union.
I'm excited about given former players.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
You know, like.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
There's thirty two hundred current players, but through twenty two
thousand former players that can benefit from it, and most
of them are still dealing with opiate addiction and benzo
with diazepine addiction and all those other things and health
addiction CTE and anxiety and whatever. In cannabis can be
the cure, and I'm excited about and I think if
you projected out five or ten years, you're gonna see
(26:31):
it's gonna be legal on the federal level, and it's
going to be tax and regulated just like they do alcohol.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Real quick, of any of your teammates from the Broncos
shr ROWL thirty three squad joined in at least maybe
not just would leave well, but anyone else on this,
on this on this fight as.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Well, a lot most of them have. Most of them have.
And I can remember Super Bowl eighteen in twenty eighteen,
I was in Minnesota and I had a conversation about
Terrell Davis and I know he jumped into the pool
with a CBD company, and a lot of my teammates
from that team, and throughout my career, you know, they
(27:07):
come to me for cannabis advice, and I've been in
the industry long enough to send them products that can
help them, whether it's a CBD or if it's if
they're close by whatever I hand and liver from some
thac products. But cannabis is medicine, always has been, always
will be. And I'm with the largest integrated telemed cannabis
(27:31):
company in the industry, and I'm happy to keep pushing
this ball down down the field.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Well Leaf, Well is going to do well with you
as an advisor and really an ambassador for this because
that's fascinating stuff. So we're thrilled to hear about that. Finally,
before we let you go official prediction. Now you said Eagles,
but official score prediction? How you think the game's going
to kind of go? And then who's super Bowl MVP?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Uh? Super Bowl MVP? Say Kuon Barkley h twenty eight,
twenty twenty eight, twenty four.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
The Egles.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
It's gonna be a tough game and the team that
makes the least amount of mistakes is gonna win. But
look out for the two players that I told you about,
Jalen Carter and Samon Barkley. I think they're gonna make
a world of difference.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
All right, Marvin Well, it's been an absolute tree and
absolute pleasure for both Zach and I. Here on a
to z you're officially our first guest here on the
show because this is our new platform here, a new
podcast underneath the umbrella of the Broncos flagship radio station KOA.
So we appreciate you you breaking that barrier for us,
and that was awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Hey, listen, this was awesome man. And KOA is like
a legendary iconic station, whether it was the radio or
TV in Denver. And like I said, I'm from Denver
and I'm happy to do it with you guys. And
next year, hopefully we'll be talking about the Broncos been
in this position, and then I'll be a Homer all
the way.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yes, yes, And then we'll have to get we'll have
to get on Radio Row there in sand We'll have
you join us there.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
On I'll I'll be joined with all my leaf boy
gear and when we'll tell you about the progress that
leaf Well has made in the year.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
All right, Marvin, it's been a treat, but we appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
All right, thank you, thank you for the time. Have
a good weekend, guys.
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