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April 10, 2025 72 mins

Pat sits down with life coach Sima Jones to discuss her personal journey, overcoming childhood trauma, depression and anxiety through the discovery of yoga, Zen and therapy. We discuss what truly happens in the transformative space of life coaching and along the way, Pat unexpectedly becomes the client in a spontaneous coaching moment that explores regret, self-forgiveness, and rediscovering alignment.

What You’ll Learn:

  • How Sima’s path through trauma, anxiety, and motherhood shaped her unique coaching style
  • The difference between therapy and life coaching — and where they overlap
  • Why discomfort is essential to growth, and how to stay with it
  • How clarity of self unlocks meaning and purpose
  • The surprising power of regret — and how to work with it, not against it
  • What a real-life coaching session feels like, in real time

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