In this episode, Stan is joined by Adam Segal, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, to discuss cybersecurity, cyber warfare, and US-China relations. They explore the complexities of negotiating over cyber activities, the fragmented state of the global internet, and the economic and strategic implications of cyberattacks. Adam also provides insights into the military comparison between the US and China, the potential for conflict over Taiwan, and the importance of ongoing diplomatic dialogue. Listen to delve into these pressing issues and understand the nuanced dynamics of international cybersecurity and military strategy.
Read Adam's Report: https://www.cfr.org/task-force-report/confronting-reality-in-cyberspace
00:00 Introduction and Guest Overview
01:10 The Internet's Broken Promise
02:58 Diplomacy in Cyberspace
03:59 China's Cyber Exploits
04:51 Understanding Cyber Attacks
08:23 Negotiating Cyber Norms
13:39 Defending Forward: U.S. Cyber Strategy
18:17 China-U.S. Cyber Relations
21:27 Artificial Intelligence and Cybersecurity
26:02 Military Strength and Strategic Ambiguity
32:51 Escalation and De-escalation Strategies
34:38 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Host Stan Christensen has spent his career working as a professional negotiator in a variety of arenas. He has also taught a popular course on negotiation at Stanford University for over twenty years.
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