ET encounters: What Your Star Family Wants You to Know w/ Kristy Crabtree

Join me for a mind-expanding conversation with Kristy Crabtree, an entrepreneur, therapist, author, and extraterrestrial contactee. Kristy shares her remarkable journey from skepticism to acceptance after her "star family" introduced themselves following a profound healing experience. We dive deep into our parallel experiences with extraterrestrial contact, including profound childhood healing interventions that changed both our lives.

This episode goes to unexpected places as we explore consciousness expansion, the connection between trauma healing and spiritual awakening, and the possible non-human origins of humanity. Kristy also reveals insights about humanity's potential future paths - one merging with AI technology and another evolving through higher consciousness.

About the Guest:
Kristy Crabtree is a therapist who built a successful counseling practice with 50 employees while exploring alternative healing modalities beyond traditional talk therapy. After healing childhood trauma through plant medicine work, she experienced direct contact with extraterrestrial beings who identified themselves as her "star family." Kristy's forthcoming book "Sacred Revolution" details her spiritual journey and the messages she's received about humanity's evolution and potential.

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Hey, I’m Ian Vogel—host of Alternate Timelines. My journey started on a small farm in the midwest, where I always felt a little out of place. After years of skepticism and even a stint as an atheist, a near-death experience changed my perspective on everything. Since then, I’ve explored plant medicine, past life memories, and the mysteries of consciousness. Now, I’m sharing those experiences to help others navigate their own awakening. Through real stories, deep conversations, and wild explorations of the unknown, we’re building a community where it’s okay to question reality. You’re not alone in the unknown. 👽✨

Episode Transcript

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-2025 (00:00):
I was just like, oh man, my

(00:01):
friends talk to angels.
They talk to spirit guides.
They talk to dead loved ones,and I am like the alien one.
I don't want that.
Like, there was so muchresistance, Ian, when this first
started coming into my paradigm,I was just like, no, Our history
is a lie.
And when you start knowingyourself, you start to learn
your history and you start towake up to that and know the

(00:23):
truth of our history becauseit's in our collective DNA
experience.
It's just really made me wonderover time, like, I don't think
any of us are human in origin.

HypeMiC & FaceTime HD Came (00:36):
What is Up and Welcome to Another
Episode of Alternate Timelines.
Oh my goodness, today's episodeis so good.
I had the pleasure ofinterviewing Kristy Crabtree,
who is an entrepreneur, atherapist, an author, and an
extraterrestrial.
This conversation goes to placesthat I did not expect it to go.

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She's just a wealth of knowledgeand a super straightforward, And
she's really a down to earthperson.
And that's precisely why Iwanted to have her on and talk
to her.
Specifically about herextraterrestrial experiences.
And she goes into great detail.
And she does not hide anythingand Truth be told, I also share

(01:21):
some things in this podcast thatI've never shared.
So, it was a experience for bothof us, and if you're just coming
to this podcast now, this is thesecond part of a series that we
did.
She interviewed me for herpodcast Transcendence Talks, and
in that episode, she isinterviewing me.
In that episode, we talk a lotabout entities and plant

(01:44):
medicine and the differentthings that can glom onto you.
definitely something that you'llwant to listen to if you've done
any sort of platinum medicinework or are in the realm
personal development or growth.
Kristy has such a uniqueperspective coming from the
field of therapy and running asuccessful counseling business.
So hearing her talk about herexperiences with non ordinary

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states of being, plant medicine,and ultimately
extraterrestrials, which is alot of what this conversation
revolves around, was really eyeopening.
She blew my mind on multipleoccasions so that was an
experience that was really justcool for me to have because I've
had a lot of extraterrestrialexperiences and the way she

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framed some things was justreally unique and Things that
I've never thought of so yeah,there is just so much to learn
from her I'm super grateful forcoming on and Without further
ado, let's just get into it

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_1 (02:44):
Kristy I am so grateful that you're on
the podcast and taking this timewith me.
I really wanna know about extraterrestrials, but be, but before
we get there, I would like toknow a little bit more about
your history and, we, we'vespoken before and I think a lot
of people are gonna be coming tothis from our, the episode that

(03:05):
we just did, we're, we're doinga bit of a role reversal here.
So in on, on Christie's podcast,I.
The Transcendence talks.
She interviewed me, and now I'mgoing to be doing the
interviewing and answering thequestions.
The extraterrestrial thing,we'll, we'll get to it, but how
did, how did you get to theextraterrestrial I know you

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spent time as a, as a therapist,and I'm sure that informs a lot
of what you've done with yourpractice and with, with work.
But I know you also recentlywrote a book and are starting a
series of retreats that arerelated to that.
So yeah, please inform us alittle bit more about, about how

(03:46):
you got to be here and whatbrought about the, the Sacred
Revolution.

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13- (03:51):
Okay.
Well, thank you so much forhaving me.
I'm so excited to be here andhave this conversation with you,
somebody who's so like-mindedand I think who understands it,
firsthand.
So it feels like there's nojudgment, like you feel like a
kindred spirit in this space,which is awesome.
So I never thought I wouldarrive at a place where I was

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talking about extraterrestrials.
In fact, when that came into myline of consciousness, I was
just like, oh man, my friendstalk to angels.
They talk to spirit guides.
They talk to dead loved ones,and I am like the alien one.
I don't want that.
Like, there was so muchresistance, Ian, when this first
started coming into my paradigm,I was just like, no, I'm not

(04:34):
gonna talk about that part ofit.
I'm gonna talk about all thethings, but I'm not gonna talk
about that part of it.
And at some point in my healing,it became so clear to me, that
that was.
Why I was having theseexperiences was because I was
appointed to talk about itbecause it needed to happen.
It's a conversation that you seeit in the psychology realm.
When people start talking aboutets, they, they become

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hospitalized.
They, they lose their licenses,they become subject to all kinds
of, have different things where,they lose their credibility.
So when it, honestly, if Iwanted to be believable, I
would've just left it out.
I'll, I'll tell you that much.
If I wanted to be believable andI wanted to maintain
credibility, I would've left itout.
But my personality is such that,I share from a place of

(05:17):
integrity, and because of that,it would've left too many holes
and the story wouldn't have madesense.
And so, so it's in my book andmy book hasn't come out.
It'll be available on Amazon.
by the summer, by June and,which is a year to date, when my
star family introducedthemselves to me, which is

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ironic, But, that's the way itwent.
I had a lot of resistance tothis book and a lot of
resistance to these experiences.
So

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_155248 (05:46):
I love so much that you refer to
the extraterrestrials that, thatyou've encountered as your star
family.
I do a prayer every morning andmy star family is in part of my
prayer, and that's how I talk tothem.
My brothers and sisters from thestars, that's how I refer to
them.
So that's like, you just hit acord real deep inside me with,

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with that.
And,

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-202 (06:09):
it wasn't my words, it was theirs.
It's how they introducedthemselves to me.
They said, we're your starfamily.
We have a message for you.
Would you like to receive it?
And I said, yes.
So I, that's just how I've namedthem ever since.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_15 (06:23):
Well, I, I honor you for saying yes,
and when things come out of leftfield into our lives like that.
It can be challenging to sayyes.
I think it takes a lot ofcourage because, the things that
we're gonna be talking about andsome of our shared experiences,
they, as you said, can lend topeople not thinking you, of you

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as credible.
There's, there's such a culturaltaboo around any conversations
around extraterrestrials or, oreven past lives or expanded
states of consciousness, thingsthat some people like, like you
and I have experienced regularlyand have a, have a deep
connection with, and a, a levelof understanding with that.

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A lot of people just don't, andlike I, I acknowledge the
bravery that, that it takes foryou to, to be out about it and
to share your experience.
So I guess I'm, I'm reallycurious.
The introduction to the starfamily in, in that situation, I
think you said plant medicine,and I know plant medicine and

(07:33):
your, doing work in the, in thetherapy field, there's some gray
areas.
Contradiction can, can causesome issues.
So I know you, you mentioned alittle bit that you're, what
you're doing now has progressedquite a bit, but how does one
make that jump?
Because I know there are gonnabe a lot of people who, they may
not necessarily be therapists,but they are professionals and

(07:57):
people that are having thesesorts of experiences.
How does somebody get to thepoint where.
Where you feel like you can talkabout it and walk us through
that journey that, that you wentthrough from where you were in
the beginning to, to where youare now.

kristy-crabtree-_1_ (08:13):
Absolutely.
So I think you come into thetherapy fields for a lot of
reasons, but I think most peoplecome into the therapy field
because they have a desire tounderstand themselves.
And, so, there's some selfishmotive underlying that, right?
Like, I, I was fascinated by thestudy of psychology and as I
learned about it in school, Iwas like applying it to my own,

(08:34):
sense of self and expanding myown awareness of who I am and
why I am who I am.
And it was interesting.
And so, I, as I be, as I becamea counselor in the field back in
2008, I noticed that it hadlimitations, talk therapy had
limitations.
And so it put me on this journeyof wanting to figure out how can

(08:56):
I be more effective?
Because people are coming in andthey have trauma and talk
therapy is simply not enough.
And people can talk about theirtrauma, they can re reframe
cognitive beliefs, but it justfelt like it wasn't getting to
the root of anything.
And I was frustrated sittingacross from people with a
passion, with a desire to help.

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And at the same time, I wasexperiencing this emptiness in
myself that I really couldn'tunderstand.
So it was this parallel processof wanting to be effective and
helpful and serve, and alsofiguring out why am I feeling
the way that I'm feeling.
And I was a student of everytherapy modality that I would
learn, I would go out and seek atherapist and say, I'm gonna try

(09:37):
this for myself because I willnot put my clients through
anything that I will not subjectmyself to.
So I learned EMDR, I learnedhypnotherapy, I learned internal
family systems and, all thosethings helped me become more and
more effective and helped melearn more about myself at the
same time.
So I felt like with thisexpanding sense of gnosis, I

(10:00):
could bring my clients to newdepths of themselves because I
wasn't afraid to go thereanymore.
But there was still somethingmissing.
And it wasn't until Idiscovered, psilocybin and other
plant medicines that I realizedthere's something inside of me
that I haven't explored.
And it was like this feeling ofterror.
And I remember experiencing thisterror for the first time in

(10:23):
ceremony thinking, what is that?
And I knew it was buried underthese protective parts of me,
probably the parts of me thatwould work a lot, that built
businesses that were verysuccessful.
And I, I started to realize, Ithink you're running from
something, but I don't know whatit is.
And then there was shame, like,how can you be this therapist

(10:44):
that helps people connect thedots in their lives, but there's
just dots that are somehowdisconnected in your own?
And it was a reallyuncomfortable place for me to
be.
And that discomfort created thispropensity of like, I need to
figure it out and I need to doit quickly because I can't be in
this liminal space of likewhatever this unknown thing is.

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So I started using the plantmedicine to get to the bottom of
it, and I found out I hadrepressed memories.
And, they were the a again,something I had resistance to.
I didn't want that to be mystory.
And, it was also something that.
Okay, what do I do with this?
The person who abused me isstill in my life.
I didn't know that that was mytruth.

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Is it my truth?
Am I just making it all up?
Maybe I'm just making it all upand maybe I'm just a horrible
person.
Until the day came when thatperson seemed to confess to some
of these things and validatedwhat I had experienced.
And, that was this moment thatshifted everything for me.
It was like I was no longerbattling myself.

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And there was this sense ofinternal freedom that I had
never, never experienced beforebecause there was a part of me
that, my body was serving toprotect me from knowing because
it was just too overwhelming forthat to, to be processed at the
time.
And, and there just comes a timeI, everybody's life and not
everybody has repressedmemories, but we all have

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overwhelming experiences thatare difficult to process.
And until we have safety in ourexternal environment, we can't.
Process those things.
And so the time came when I hadsafety in my family of creation,
safety within my own nervoussystem, stability in my life.
And it was like the time wasjust right then, and it wasn't

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uncovering that trauma and aceremony where then God came in
and was like, Hmm.
And now you get to be youauthentically because you've
like un unturned turned overthat last stone that you were so
afraid to look under.
And so really that's when mystar family came into the
picture.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_1552 (12:52):
No, that's, that's really
interesting.
And, and thank you so much foryour vulnera vulnerability and
willingness to share such a, adeep and, and intimate story.
And I think that's somethingthat happens to a lot of people
where, that last stone left tobe unturned.
That's taking up some mentalspace or some space in your
spirit.

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And in order for the new thingto come in, like your, your
soul's journey, like what you'rereally put here for, in order to
make room for that, you've gottaclear out all the stuff that's
taking up that space.
And often tho those lastlingering things, they can be
pretty gnarly.
And, and I think it's, I thinkthere's a lot of people who, who

(13:33):
just never uncover that laststone and they just live their
life with that thing, with thatburden that they don't
necessarily know exactly what itis, but they, they don't have
enough courage or they're not ina safe enough space to do that
kind of work or to allowthemselves to, to do that.
And, and I believe that the, theunconscious mind or represses

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memories in order to keep yousafe, this is an e evolutionary
safety mechanism.
This repressed memories isn'tnecessarily a bad thing.
When that memory was repressed,that memory was repressed for a
reason, because for whateverreason, maybe your neurology or
because of your safety, youwouldn't have been able to

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process all that informationwhen that thing happened.
So

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-1 (14:19):
Exactly that.
Honestly, I was So young when ithappened that the medicine
regressed me back to, beforethey even showed me the memory
in medicine.
I say they, when I say they, I'mreferring to like my spirit
team.
Right?
before they even showed me thememory, what they showed me was
they regressed me back to almostbeing like an infant or a
toddler where you don't havethis running dialogue in your
head anymore and you're just, Ijust got this sense that I'm

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just loving awareness.
And I'm observing life with theawe and the wonder of a child.
And I was like, oh, this is sobeautiful.
This is what it feels like to bea, a baby, an infant.
And I, I am just lovingawareness and I'm observing this
space.
And, and there was magiceverywhere.
And then there was the assaulton my nervous system, and then

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there was the visceral imprintsof the trauma that I felt.
And I would say, no, no, no,that's not real.
That's not real.
That this isn't happening.
And when I would do that, thepain would come in and my body
would say, oh yeah, try to denyme now.
Try to deny me now.
And it would hurt so bad.
And I would feel all the paincome rushing back.
And then I'd say, oh my God,that is real.

(15:23):
That did happen to me.
And this relief would come to mybody and I would wrestle with
it.
And as I wrestled with it, thepain would come and the pain
would go.
But what I knew to be true inthat moment was that there were
no thoughts.
There was no conceptualizationof what was happening to me
because I had no words for whathad just happened.
'cause I was too little.
And it's almost like when wordsare divorced from, from the

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experience of your nervoussystem, it does not imprint as
an explicit memory.
It, it imprints as an implicitmemory, which is like, try to
tell me how to ride a bike.
Right?
There's like no words.
You just have to get on thereand you remember how to do it.
But I can tell you how to bakemy grandmother's cookies from
like A to B, right?
That's explicit.
But impli implicit is like thisjust visceral memory with no

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anchors.
And that's exactly what it was.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_155 (16:13):
Wow.
I just had a couple of lightbulb moments and I never
considered it from the point ofview of a child.
And, and I've experienced thatfrom time to time in past life
regression and, plant medicineceremonies being in blissful
childlike state.

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13- (16:29):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_1552 (16:30):
But I, I never thought about how you
just don't have any frame ofreference for something like you
experienced.
And there's nothing about thatthat would indicate that that is
a real experience.
'cause it's so far out of your,your normal experience of just
loving awareness.

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That's so profound and powerful.
And like the fact that anybodyand everybody experiences that
at some point.
And that tho those kind ofexperiences really shape people
in a, in a really meaningful andprofound way for potentially the
rest of their lives.
You know what I mean?
That, that experience you'regonna, that that is going to be

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something that's present withyou on either as a wound or as
a, a, something that's healedfor, for your entire life.
So, knowing that everybody hasthat, something like that from
on that level really just opensmy heart and I feel a lot of
compassion for, for people outthere that are hurting and they
don't even know why, becausethere's a, just a, a young

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version of themselves that waswounded in such a way that they
can't even put words to.
Because the version of themselfthat was wounded didn't
necessarily have the developmentof language yet.
So how is the adult going to beable to put words to something
that had no words at the time

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-20 (17:51):
and had you even accept it as your
reality, And, and so that's whyin therapy I was so frustrated.
It's like, I know there'ssomething in there and I just
can't touch it.
I can't touch it.
But, you know, state inducedlearning is a thing.
And until I was literallyregressed by the medicine to
that state of loving awareness,I don't think I would've ever
had the capacity to access it.

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And people would say, well,you're just not ready to know.
You're just not ready to know.
When you're ready to know,you're gonna know.
And I would wanna punch them inthe throat.
'cause I was like.
I'm trying everything to know.
I know there's something insideof me.
I don't know what it is, andI've prayed every day to know,
don't tell me I'm not ready toknow it.
It was just unaccessible to theaspects of my mind that it had

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just been buried so deep.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_155 (18:36):
Wow, that's, and to think that we all
have an aspect of ourselvesthat, that is like, that I think
if everybody thought about thata little bit more and took that
into consideration when they'reinteracting with, with people in
their day-to-day life, that itwould probably have a, a big
impact on, just on, on howpeople.
Communicate with each other andconnect with each other, and,
and the fact that there's thisshared experience that, that

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everybody has on in some sort ofway, on some sort of level of
just confusion and not beingable to put words to, to
different experiences and howthat might shape your whole
life.
That's pretty mind, boggling.
And something I, I've neverconsidered and coming into this
conversation, it's not too oftenwhere I have an experience of,
of getting my mind blown likethis, but kudos.

(19:20):
That's fantastic.
I and very unexpected.
I'm gonna have to chew on thisfor a while.

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13- (19:26):
Yeah.
No, thank you.
I, I did too.
I wrestled with this one for,I'd say five years.
Right.
Like grappling with like, Idon't want this to be true.
Maybe, maybe I'm making it up.
Which was also part of thetrauma, right?
Like you're just making that up.
That's not true.
I'm sure that was part of thenarrative of the trauma.
I don't remember, but I, I havea.
A sneaky suspicion, so it's realinteresting and, I find that

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even now, right?
Like, I think, like you said,I'll always be, have a scar,
always be healing from it.
I think I'll always wrestle alittle bit with can I believe my
truth at the deepest level or doI reject it?
And I think that's the continuedhealing is like to meet myself
deeper and deeper in that spaceof, trusting me.

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and I, I, I think we all havethat kind of like core wound
that we always just, we need itdeeper and deeper and deeper.
until we can stand at thecenter, but it feels like a
spiral to me.
That's what I've been shown islike you have a broad awareness
and it gets more and more narrowtill you get to the center.
And I think we're all justworking towards that center.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_15 (20:24):
Yeah, I totally agree, and something
that really changed my paradigm,thinking about the spiral.
'cause yeah, this, comes up inwhen talking about healing.
So you, you come to the samepoint on the spiral and people
talk about the, the spiral ofascension.
As you, as you learn and yougrow and you, you raise in your
frequency, you revisit the samepoint and relearn the same

(20:45):
lessons in, in a different waythat gives you new meaning and
more wisdom about those lessons.
But in, in the same way thatthere's a circle of ascension,
there's a, there's an equal andopposite si circle and spiral
that, that goes down in, intothe core of ourself.
And I think when you go up, it'syou're connecting with, with,
with source.
And when you're going down thespiral can a, as you motion,

(21:07):
it's connecting with the, thecore of yourself, which in one
way they're the same thing, butthere's a a different experience
of of going in each direction.

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-20 (21:18):
and I think you gotta go down to go
up.
When I met the first encounter Ihad with Christ, he showed me
two triangles.
one that goes down and one thatgoes up.
And I was working with somebodyfacilitating a, a medicine
session and he said, first yougo down.
And I saw the spiral that goesdown through that triangle.
And he said to know that theheights of, the spiral that goes

(21:40):
up, you have to go to the depthsof the spiral that goes down.
And I think, those polarities, Imean we live in this world of
polarities and that's theportal.
Yeah, that's the portal.
It's gnosis, right?
It's ultimately the deepest formof gnosis where we can
experience, the most exaltedstates within ourselves.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_155 (21:58):
that rings very true to me and, and
something that I.
Have become aware of throughsome sort of spiritual teaching
is that your capacity to lovesomebody else is only as great
as your capacity to loveyourself.
And like, I think that that'sjust a different way of
articulating what, you'retalking about.
To reach the highest heights youhave to, to reach the, the
lowest lows.
And as far as your ability is togo down into it, is gonna be

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your ability or your willingnessto go up into it.
So, after, after having thisexperience and you said it took
years to integrate that into, tobe able to put it into context
and to work with it and, to feelsome sort of re resolution from
that.
What, what was that journeylike?
And like the, the integrationprocess for something that's so

(22:44):
like deep and intense.

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-202 (22:45):
it wasn't until very recently that
it made sense to me because whatSpirit showed me, and kind of
like the chapters in my book isSpirit showed me there's like
these four LE levels to healing.
There's these four steps, if youwill, that we do over and over
and over again.
And the first one is just knowyourself.
And when I say know yourself,it's almost like that Carl Yung

(23:06):
space of, until you make theunconscious conscious, it
dictates your life.
And you call it fate.
It's that it's not like, oh, Iknow who I am.
It's like, no.
Like I know my unconsciouspatterns and I take
accountability for them, and I'maware of the impact that they
have and how they.
Either propel me forward or holdme back, phase.
So, so the medicine did that forme.

(23:27):
Like, whew, here's theunconscious things, And then the
second part of that is, die,which is that experience of
surrender, of surrendering tothose patterns and saying, okay,
I see them and I'm, I am willingto do something different with
them.
I, I'm willing to surrender themand let them go and transmute
them into something else, whichis where we rebirth ourselves.

(23:49):
And and that's where I stayedfor a long time, was kind of
like, Ooh, I'm new here.
I need to be gentle with myself.
I feel like a toddler.
I thought I knew what life was.
I thought I knew who I was, andI guess I didn't, I guess I was
wrong.
And I guess I'm figuring thatout and I'm learning all over
again, and maybe my whole life'sbeen a lie.
And it was a dark place.

(24:11):
And it was also a place wherethere was new potentials and
possibilities of.
Of freedom of resolution, but Ijust didn't know how to get
there and I didn't know whatthat looked like.
and it was a lot of hardconversations, renegotiating
boundaries, recognizing where,where I've given so much of
myself away to keep the peace orfor other people's protection or

(24:34):
safety and grieving that.
and the last phase is phasefour, which is know yourself as
creator, which is where youreclaim all those things and you
call all your power back to youand you can wield it in a way
that serves others.
And so spirit, show me thosefour phases and, I stayed in
that third one, that rebirthphase for years and years and

(24:56):
years before I was ready to callmy power back.
And I had to build relationshipswith these young parts of myself
that I exiled and cast awayunintentionally.
because she was too much and shehad a lot of pain and, and I
didn't wanna face her and Ididn't wanna know her.

(25:17):
yeah, so I stayed in that phasefor a long time.
3, 3, 4 years.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_155 (25:23):
Wow.
So what is it like going fromthat phase, the rebirth phase?
to calling your power back.
What does that entail and whatdoes that look like in, in your
life?
I'm guessing the book hassomething to do with that

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13- (25:38):
Yeah.
So on my birthday after thiswhole phase three thing, and I
had the conversation with thatperson of kind of like, Hey,
this is just my reality.
I know this happened, andwhatever.
There was like this release,there was this sense of internal
freedom and that summer, it wasalmost like medicine cracked me

(26:00):
open.
And I used that summer to allowthese medicine experiences to
almost like put me back togetherand figure out how to rebuild
myself.
And so my husband and I, we, itwas my birthday and we had gone
on vacation.
I was like, I wanna do aceremony on my birthday.
So that's exactly what we did.
And he hadn't seen orexperienced what had happened to

(26:20):
me.
And the medicine, I almost, it'sas if I channeled that real
young part of myself.
and it was as if I needed myhusband to just hold that space
for me and witness that littlegirl, because only I had known
her.
I hadn't shown her to anybodyelse.
And it was as if she needed tobe seen.
And he was in a space where hewas on his healing journey and

(26:41):
he was able to hold her and meand witness us together and say,
I believe you and I know.
And I'm sorry.
And he just held me in thatspace and it was so powerful and
so sacred.
And I thought that that's whatthat night was gonna be about
was just him holding me in thatspace and us reconciling these
things that happened and himwitnessing that for me.

(27:03):
And as I thought the medicinewas wearing off that night, we
were star gazing on a roofbecause star gazing has always
been my thing.
And he set up this beautifulbirthday celebration for me
where we, we star gazed on thetop of a balcony in Mexico.
And, as we're watching the starsand I'm coming outta medicine,
I'm feeling pretty much in mybody at this point.
I watched the stars start toshift and they were moving in

(27:26):
real time.
And this wasn't like seeing itthrough the eyes of medicine
like I was in my body and reallyclear.
And I look at him and I'm like,are you seeing what I'm seeing?
He's like, the stars moving andmaking triangles.
I said, yeah, well, he didn'thave this experience, but I did.
And the first set of starsturned it into the pyramid of
Giza and the second set.

(27:46):
Jetted out into a hologram whereit looked like the pyramids you
would see in Central America,like an Aztec step pyramid.
And the third shape that emergedfor me in my, in this hologram
where almost like you see ablack night sky, it was as if
the sky would become just alittle bit blacker and the stars
would make an outline.
And I saw like a Chinese conicalhat like you would see in the

(28:07):
rice fields.
And all of a sudden I hear, thisis your intergalactic star
family.
We have a message for you.
Would you like to receive it?
And my, I feel like lightninggoes through the top of my head.
I'm talking faster than Iusually talk and there's energy
shooting through my heart out myleft hand.
And I was like, I think I'mdying.
Like I'm pretty sure I'm dying.

(28:28):
and I say this to my husband andhe's like terrified now.
And he looks at me like I havethree heads and he's like, star
family.
And I was like, it's just whatI'm hearing.
And they said to say that and hewas like.
I'm gonna go to bed.
And I was like, just, just hangwith me for like a second.
'cause, and I tell him what I'mseeing.
I'm like, are you seeing this?
He's like, I'm seeing shit movein the sky.
You're talking about Starfamily.
He's like, I don't know, like,this makes me so uncomfortable.

(28:49):
And I'm like, I know, I know,but hang with me.
And he was like, okay.
So all of a sudden I amchanneling.
but I don't know that at thetime, like I'm hearing and I am
just speaking as I'm hearing itand they're telling me that
underneath all of the pyramidsare, are labyrinths.
And they said, congratulations.

(29:11):
You walked the labyrinth.
And I see Anubis and I didn'tknow who he was at the time.
I just say, I, I tell myhusband, I see they're showing
me this jackal headed God, likefrom Egypt, you know those
jackal headed ones.
And he was like, yeah.
I was like, I'm seeing him andhe's the one who let me into the
labyrinth.
And he said, congratulations, wesent.
warriors and healers, andshamans into the labyrinth.

(29:31):
And it's where you meetyourself.
And some people don't make itout alive, some people die.
But you meet yourself in thedarkness and when you can meet
yourself in the darkness, youascend to the top of the pyramid
and that's where you stand andyou hold the light for others so
that they can come out of thedarkness.
And I was just like, oh my gosh.
And so it was as if like, mylife had just been this

(29:53):
initiation process into steppinginto this energy or this
archetype of the healer.
And there was like, they showedme an elephant in the stars.
And, and then at this point aship comes, I see an actual
craft and it like lights the skyand, and my husband sees the
craft and everything and there'sa light coming down on these
stars.
And and there was likeelephants.

(30:14):
I'm like, were there elephantsin Egypt?
'cause they're showing meelephants.
And there's this space under thepyramid where it's like negative
space and you can teleport yourenergy and They're showing me
all these things.
He's like, I'm done.
Like I am done.
I'm going to bed.
And I was like, oh my gosh.
Okay.
And so, so that was my firstexperience, with my star family.
And it only accelerated thatsummer, where I was having

(30:36):
experiences like this regularlyon medicine and not on medicine.
and then like a whole book hadbeen downloaded, essentially
into my head.
But, but that was the initiationthat was like, nice to meet you.
Are you open to us?
And, it was like a full mindbody.
Yes.
I'm not sure if I fullyunderstood what they were at the

(30:59):
time.
All of it had been, was revealedover the summer and they would
just gimme more and moreinformation.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_155 (31:05):
Wow.
Thank you for sharing that.
And I understand how for peoplelistening to this, that may s
seem like a lot and, and seemout there.
I just wanna say that I had adifferent but similar sort of
experience that you had and I'mnot gonna get into it here.
I definitely wanna learn moredetails about that.
But I, I just wanna affirm thatI had a similar sort of

(31:28):
experience.
And my belief is that there aremore and more people who are
having these experiences andwe're being called forth to
start to share these experiencesin mediums like this and start
to put it out there.
people talk about extraterrestrials and the disclosure
and there seems to be thisbelief that, one day on the

(31:51):
mainstream media, there's justgonna be a news story on every
news channel.
They're gonna be like, oh, wellthey're here and here's the
evidence.
The thing is that nobody truststhe mainstream news networks.
They've shown themselves to benot trustworthy and corrupt.
Mm-hmm.
When this information comes out,my belief.

(32:12):
Is that it's gonna be, ratherthan a top down dispersal of
information, it's gonna be aground up, from individuals,
from our community, people thatyou know, your neighbors.
there's gonna be a point wherewe hit critical mass where you
you won't need to go to the newsto know that extraterrestrials
exist.
You just go to Christie down thestreet or Ian on the other side

(32:35):
of town and say, Hey, what doyou know about this?
Or, I'm having this experience.
Can you gimme any context tothis?
I've heard you're the person totalk to.
You're like, oh, yeah, well,you're experiencing X, Y, and Z.
So for anybody out who's outthere, who's listening to this,
you probably know somebody likeus who's, who's just yet to come

(32:59):
out and talk about it in alllikelihood.

kristy-crabtree-_1_ (33:01):
absolutely.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_15524 (33:02):
So I wanna like honor your story
and your courage for beingforthright and being willing to
share your story.
when it comes to thecommunication that you have with
your star family, like how doyou experience that
communication?
It's, probably not from yourcell phone.
What is that communication likefor you?

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-2 (33:21):
It's evolved.
it started where I would justexperience it in medicine and I
would say that I probablystarted, channeling in medicine
and, so each medicine ceremony Iwould have, I mean, I hadn't, I
had done medicine ceremonies andI had not had these experiences,
and all of a sudden it was likeonce I healed that core wound,
it was, one thing I wanna sayabout our star families is
they're respectful.

(33:42):
They ask permission.
Like, they're so heart-centeredand so aware of our fear.
If you don't clear the fear fromyour system, it's probably
really unlikely that you'regonna have these kinds of
experiences.
And if you do, they're probablygonna show up in something that
looks very scary, that you'rejust gonna like, run from.
And they, they recognize that.
So I just wanna preface this tooby saying that they, they're

(34:04):
very respectful and they meetyou where you're at in my
experience of them.
but as I as that final healing,it was almost like that was one
of the little last layers thatcame through.
It's as if AIS allowed me intowhatever this portal was.
I think Anubis is largelymisunderstood in historical
context.

(34:24):
they say that he would weigh, aperson's heart against a feather
and, in death, as somebody diedand then let them into, the
labyrinth.
And, I think he did that in lifewhile people were alive.
I don't think he waited untildeath.
I think maybe as they werereleasing parts of themselves or
dying to themselves, that's whenhe would weigh their heart
against the feather.

(34:46):
I think the word death can meana lot of things and, I think
it's misconstrued in some of thetexts.
But anyways, as, as we would goon and have more ceremonies, I
remember the next ceremony thatmy husband and I did.
he had some work to do onhimself, and that was the
intention for the night.
And so we both partook and, I Isaw he needed to do a little
piece of work, and so I wasguiding him through that piece

(35:07):
of work.
Well, my vision went,ultraviolet.
It was like everything in myvision had this ultraviolet hue,
and we were in an Airbnb and allof a sudden I can hear somebody
punching in the numbers, on thedoor for the code to get in,
right?
Like the, the key is just thesenumbers.
And I thought, oh, somebody'shere to clean the place.
Like this is bad timing.
I'll tell him to leave.

(35:28):
So I'm like waiting at anymoment for like the, the house
cleaners to walk in.
They don't, nobody walks in andthe door never opens and the
door never closes.
But there's footstepsapproaching where we are in the
Airbnb.
And my husband's freaking out.
He's like, what the heck's goingon?
This is so scary.
And I was like, boom.
Something just came.
I don't wanna say I allowed thechannel to open at that point.

(35:50):
And it just says, we're yourintergalactic star family.
We're here to help you heal.
Are you ready to receive somehealing?
And my husband's just likelooking at me like, are you
safe?
Are you okay at this point?
And I just said, we'd like foryou to receive some healing.
And I'm talking like, in thisplural.
And he knew in that moment therewas a shift in his affect.
And he said, you're not eventalking like you.

(36:14):
I said, no.
And he's just like, is real.
And I was like, and I'mchanneling so fast at this
point.
It's really interesting becausewhen they come through and in
the form of a stream of achannel.
It's literally like a stream ofconsciousness that you're just
allowing yourself to tune into.
So when I speak there might bepauses or ums or I'm searching

(36:35):
for clarification of what to saythrough my brain.
This is very different.
This is me trying so hard tokeep the pace of this stream of
consciousness, which is veryfast and very high vibrational.
So my voice tends to be higherin pitch, much faster, and it's
things that I wouldn't say.
And they intuitively knew thingsabout my husband's life that I

(36:55):
didn't know about.
Traumas that he had that shapedhis perception of reality.
They, they were talking aboutcircumstances like of maybe.
Something happening to an animalof his when he was very young
and how that impacted him or,and then they started talking
about how him and I are actuallyhaving a parallel lifetime on
another planet right now.
And that he has a fear of deaththat he doesn't share or doesn't

(37:18):
talk about, but that when hedies he's just gonna wake up on
this planet.
And they showed us that we weresitting together on the planet
at that moment with our feet inthe water gazing down at
ourselves here on earth.
Like silly human.
Like when you pass away you'rejust gonna wake up and you're
gonna be here on this planetlike, like you've always been
'cause you're never disconnectedfrom it.

(37:38):
And it was very clear.
So then they channeled thiswhole healing and this is when I
really got this gift of my armlighting up and being able to
use my arm to scan for energeticblocks in people's bodies and
send them a transmission thatthey can receive.
And if they choose to receiveit, they don't have to, but if
they choose to receive it, itseems to clear, some of those

(37:59):
blocks for them.
But I'm not a healer, right?
Like it's very clear that theperson has to receive it and
choose, and they're their ownhealer.
This is just a high frequencythat my star family allows me to
disseminate at times, to assistwith that if, if people are
open.
so that's when that kind of camein and they told me so much
information that, that Icouldn't have known.

(38:22):
They talked about a planet,Chiron, and that's where this,
this group of star beings wasfrom.
and they described the color ofthe planet, the atmosphere, the
density.
there was so much that I, it'shard to even remember, but I
think the biggest takeaway, thatI got out of that experience was
that God is infinitely creativeand we, there are just so many

(38:45):
different densities and layersto reality and there's so many
different.
Meet suits, right.
Or whatever, like avatars thatwe can take on.
and, and so it talk abouthumbling and realizing that
there's so much that I don'tknow.
and that if you're just open andcurious, this information starts

(39:06):
to come.
That just really expands whatyou think you know about
awareness.
And I probably have morequestions and answers.
but these experiences just kepthappening all summer long.
All summer long.
And they would be paralleling,like when I'd work with clients,
even my clients, they don't knowwhat I'm going through, right?
But they, they'd come in and belike, you know what?
I had the weirdest thing happen.
Kristy I was in bed at nightafter our session today, regular

(39:28):
psychotherapy session.
This is like, I don't talk aboutthis stuff in my sessions.
And they're like.
All of a sudden somebody startedkeying in the door key and it
was like nobody was there.
I think there was like a ghost,like maybe you got a weird
visitation or something.
And I'm thinking, oh, that's sointeresting.
And I'm like, what the heck?
What's actually going on?
But they would like almostaffirm to me.
Yeah, that was real.
Because clients that I'm justhaving sessions with

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_155248 (39:51):
a little like a little wink from
the universe.

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-1 (39:54):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Like see that.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_ (39:58):
That's, wow, that's wild and really
interesting.
There are two things that youmentioned that, that really cut
my attention and, and.
It struck a chord.
The first was when you weretalking about Anubis and, and
death, and I like intuitively,it almost felt like you were
talking about ego death.

(40:19):
Like he doesn't necessarilyweigh your heart against the
feather when your body dies,but, but when you're willing to
go beyond the ego, like that'swhen that can happen.
And an ego death is very much adeath experience that it is
fundamentally the sameexperience you have when you
die.
So that's, that's, that's reallyinteresting.

(40:39):
I, I'd never considered that.
Or that somebody got their wirescrossed when they were making
that interpretation.
Or when they

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-2 (40:45):
Like a literal interpretation when it
wasn't ever meant to be literal,because I really feel like a
UBIs has this key that lets youinto the labyrinth, but the
labyrinth is like when you'rereally ready to meet yourself at
the core, Anup is like, cool,you wanna do that?
Like, I'll unlock that door.
Good luck.
like gloves off.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_155 (41:04):
Wow.
Yeah.
That and the fact that, you arevery adamant that our star
family, they have our bestinterests at heart and they're
always looking out for what isbest for us.
And I think they recognize thatinterfering or interjecting
themselves when somebody's notnecessarily ready or somebody

(41:24):
doesn't accept their invitation,that that could potentially be
traumatizing.
And the last thing that theywanna do is cause harm or trauma
or some sort of mental anguishby making themselves be known or
appearing at a time where, whereit wasn't appropriate or the
person wasn't ready.

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-2025 (41:42):
I will be honest, yes.
I was however shown later thatI've had experiences with them
my whole life and they veiledthose experiences only for me to
find out much later because hadI known what was happening at
the time, it would've beenabsolutely, utterly terrifying.
But my husband and I have bothbeen shown experiences from the

(42:03):
time when we were tiny, tinychildren of engaging with them
and.
It was totally wiped from ourmemories until we were ready to
remember.
And then they were like, don'tfreak out, like we've been here
your whole life.
And I was like, oh my gosh.
Like, and then I could rememberthose experiences, but I thought
they were dreams.
I thought they were, what's itcalled?

(42:25):
Like when you're parallel sleepparalysis?
I thought, it was like a ghostlyencounter.
No, no, it was not.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_15524 (42:33):
In any of those experiences that
were from your childhood or fromwhen you were really young, that
had been withheld from you?
Were there ever a time where youhad been on a craft?

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13- (42:43):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's the one thing I, Idon't think I've really shared
with anybody, because I think,that's probably when like all
the labels of like she's crazystart coming out.
So it's scary for me.
But, yes.
And.
Multiple experiences, but thefirst one, my husband and I did
a ceremony and, we're having ashared vision.
And, I'm like, oh my gosh, I am,I, I, a word came into my head,

(43:06):
it was, oh my gosh, what was it?
I something reticuli, it waslike the name of a,

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_155 (43:13):
Like Zeta

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-20 (43:14):
was like, Zeta Reticuli.
I was like, why do I, why do Ikeep thinking Zeta Reticuli over
and over and over?
And we look up ab up above usand there's like a cloud that
looks like a freaking littlealien in a craft.
And I'm like, Google ZetaReticuli.
And he, he is like, oh my God.
It says that that's whereabduction take place.
It's like on Zeta Reticuli.
And it's like, but, and there'san alien, like right there in

(43:35):
the cloud, there's like a cloudalien.
He's like, this is weird.
And I'm like, I know.
And at this point he's gottenmuch more comfortable and he
doesn't think I'm crazy anymore,which is good.
but I'm like, oh my gosh, we areon a craft and it looks like
we're on some kind of table.
And he goes, I see it too.
And he goes, oh my gosh.
He goes, I used to reach downand grab your hand.
Like, I know you from there.

(43:56):
And I go, how old were you?
He goes, eight.
I go, oh, well no.
'cause I was four.
And he was like, we're fouryears apart.
And I was like, oh my gosh.
That's right.
what's crazy Ian is I had, whenI was four years when I was
born, I was born with a heartdefect.
It was a left ventricular,septal defect.
It was so big that, I, I neededopen heart surgery and I was

(44:17):
very sick as a child.
And, they're graded usually,like, they're, they're mild to,
very severe.
And, the moderate to severe onestend to require open heart
surgery.
it's very unlikely that they'llresolve, but the mild ones tend
to resolve on their own.
But mine was severe.
It was under the category ofsevere to the point where if I
even bit the inside of my cheekand blood, it would stress my
heart out so bad that I need tobe medicated.

(44:40):
So.
I was very fragile, as a childand very sick.
And I was scheduled for openheart surgery and I had a
regular pediatric cardiologist.
but when I was four years old,right before my open heart
surgery, I had a spontaneousmiraculous healing that was
actually in a medical journalbecause my pediatric
cardiologist was like, I'venever seen a severe heart defect

(45:03):
like this, just heal on his ownspontaneously.
And, that was in California, atKaiser.
And, what really got me wasseeing myself on that craft at
four years old when my husbandwas eight and he was holding my
hand, I'm gonna cry.
And they, that's what they weredoing.
They were healing my heart.
And what's crazy is before Iever saw any of this, I, I was

(45:27):
in Bali like years before I sawthat my star family had anything
to do with this healing and, Iwas sitting across from a soul
seer at, at this like man'shouse on, on, on his porch.
And, he was, he's appointed,you're appointed in Bali,
Indonesia to become the seerbecause you start having these
esoteric experiences.

(45:48):
And he didn't speak any English,so I had to have my driver
translate for me.
And he goes like this.
And the driver says, oh, you hada problem with your heart?
I said, yeah.
He goes, you weren't supposed tolive, you were supposed to die.
And I said, really?
And he says, yeah, but you madea promise to God that you would

(46:09):
heal people with your voice, andthat if you did that he would
let you live.
And it was like in that moment,all these pieces just came
together.
And like my purpose was so clearand, my relationship with my
star family was like solidified.
I realized that like we are themand they're us, and there's like

(46:31):
no separation between anythingin this whole universe and
there's nothing to fear.
And, so I, I take my work veryseriously.
It's a promise to God that Imade.
so yeah,

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_1552 (46:43):
not

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-2 (46:43):
have not shared this, this is not
even in my book because I feellike people don't understand and
it's very sacred to me.
So, yeah, I'm surprised I'm eventalking about it right now, to
be honest.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_1552 (46:56):
So, there is nothing premeditated
about this, and I did not expectto go here.
But at four years old, I wastaken on a craft and received a,
a, a procedure, so to speak,that helped me and it helped,
has helped me survive and livein the situation that I was in.

(47:19):
That's, that's a whole otherstory for, a different time
perhaps.
But

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-20 (47:23):
no, I need to hear about this now.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_15 (47:25):
well, uh, and this, this came to me in
a, in a plant medicine ceremony.
I had gotten a concussion.
I, so I've, I had seven or eightconcussions.
Up to this point.
I've several traumatic braininjuries.
And when I was four, I fell offof the second story of a barn

(47:45):
and gashed my gashed, myforehead.
As I was falling.
As I was falling through thefloor, I hit my forehead and it
tore off my eyebrow.
and I, like, I always justthought that was the story
because my parents semi make funof me because of, the time that
I lost my eyebrow and I, I fellinto a pile of cow shit off the
barn.

(48:06):
And, and I, I thought that wasit.
fast forward 30 years, I'msitting in a ceremony and I'm,
working on healing the mostrecent concussion, this brain
injury.
And the little, Dr.
CTOs in Ayahuasca are pulling onlittle things and, hooking up
wires in my brain and makingthings come back together.

(48:28):
And I, I had this download, thisvision of, I realized that they
were working behind my forehead.
And they, they weredisconnecting capillaries, like
these little veins behind myforehead.
And then I was shown this visionof being four years old, being
taken onto a craft.

(48:48):
the extraterrestrials used thatwound as a cover basically, they
made an incision under the woundso you wouldn't be able to see
the incision.
They placed a piece of humanbiological tissue.
So basically a, something thatwould look like a, like a patch
for a tire.
Like some, some thick, dense.

(49:10):
Brain matter above my third eye,and they attached some some
little veins to it andcapillaries to it so that my
body would feed it and, and keepit intact because it was there
to block my ability to, sensedifferent kind of spiritual
things.
It, it basically reduced thecapacity for my third eye to

(49:33):
interpret and see beyond theveil because like the, the
message that I got was, itwould've been too much for you.
You wouldn't have been able tomanage having a third eye that's
wide open as a little kid inyour situation.
It just, you would not have beenable to cope with that much
information coming in.
So it was actually somethingthat was done in order to help

(49:53):
me.
It was done for my, mywellbeing.
And knowing that at a point inmy life, I would have an
understanding and be able, andhave the tools and the support
to be able to allow that thecutting of those, those little
capillaries so that that graymatter could just dissipate on
its own.
My body could assimilate it andthat my, my, my third eye could

(50:15):
have more access to, to what itwas capable of being able to do.

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-2 (50:21):
Wow.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_15524 (50:22):
so you are not, you are not alone
in this.
And again, I, I have a strongsense that there are probably a
lot of people who are like, thatwas a weird dream.
I, I, I dreamt that I was on asteel table and there was a
bunch of, there's a bunch ofaliens around me.
That was, that was just, thatwas odd.
Just, or yeah, and, or maybethere was something more to it

(50:45):
and

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-20 (50:47):
And after didn't have dreams.
I had nothing Right.
Like, no memory of thiswhatsoever.
until I did, just until I did.
But they're like, you're readynow.
Right.
And it's almost like, again,nosis, you have to go down that
triangle before you can go up.
And they're like, yeah, youreally wanna know yourself.
Like, okay, ask and you shallreceive.
Like, we will show you who youare.

(51:07):
And, it's just really made mewonder over time, like, I don't
think any of us are human inorigin.
I think our, our ancestry is,from other dimensions, from
other realities, from otherplanets, and, I, I don't know
how much Greg Braden, like youwatched, I remember going to
this Greg Braden conference andhe was talking about our DNA and
he was saying that, thetelomeres on the outside of the
DNA or on the outside of theDNA, that's where they are.

(51:30):
But in, in human DNA 200,000years ago, somewhere in the
middle, there's fused DNA onchromosome two and five that
allowed us to like, speak wordsinstead of have telepathy and
oh, I'm making that assumption,right.
He didn't say that, but I'massuming that before we could
speak words, we spoketelepathically because that's
how these, our star familyspeaks, right?

(51:50):
And, and I feel like that's somuch older than language and
it's so much more efficient.
and so, you know, it changedthings in our voice and in our
throat and, and the, thestatistical po probability of
that being.
To happen.
It has not happened in any otherspecies.
no other species has developedin a way that they have used
telomeres where DNA strandsliterally fused.

(52:12):
It just makes you wonder, right?
And it makes you wonder in likethese biblical texts, they talk
of giants, they talk of bluepeople in the Hindu world, and
these are, these are not thingsthat look foreign when you're in
medicine, right?
I mean, my skin tends to be bluewhen I see myself on other
planets and they call them gods,they call them myths.
I don't think that anything's amyth.
I really don't.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_15524 (52:32):
I, I love the, the Robert Edward
Grant quote.
What we perceive as coincidenceis just a pattern that we've yet
to recognize.
It's a fancy way of saying thereare no coincidences and the,
we're just not aware of theorigins of, and the, the greater
context to which we'reexperiencing our life.

(52:52):
And we, we perceive things in acertain way, but that may not
necessarily be the, the ultimatetruth of, of our experience.
And, in talking, about the starfa your star family, what other
messages have they shared withyou that, that may be applicable
to our society, to, to people asa whole?

(53:14):
Have you, have you gotten any?
Idea as to when or if they'll bemore accessible or interactive
with people on a, on a largescale basis?

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13- (53:27):
Yeah, so it's been really interesting.
they, one way they've interactedme with me is, and okay, this is
where it gets really weird.
This is what I'm still trying tounpack.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_155 (53:37):
Yes.

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-202 (53:37):
we go.
So.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_15524 (53:39):
it to me.

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-2 (53:40):
They come in with Christ all the
time.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_155 (53:42):
Hmm.

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-2 (53:42):
And, it's almost as if he's somehow
very intimately connected, withthe Star family.
so much of the healing abilitiesthat the star families have,
Christ has too, and they come intogether in, in my experiences,
especially off of medicine, evenmore than on.
And, what Christ told me isthat, when he comes back to the

(54:03):
planet, it's not going to bethrough him coming back in the
flesh.
Christ said that it's gonna behim coming back through the
Christed DNA and the awakeningof all of us.
So as we remember, and what,what my star family told me is
that this year, 2025, it's anine year in, in numerology.

(54:24):
It's a year of earnings and.
What they showed me is, and nowis very evident, but I was told
this last year, like before theelection and all of that, but
that, truth is gonna be comingout.
So it's gonna be like, like wetalked about, those four phases
of healing Earth is in phase twodie, right?
Which is like all the systemsthat we thought had our best

(54:44):
interest at heart, we're seeingthe heartbreaking reality that,
that's not true.
That they never had our bestinterest at heart.
That it, it boils down to,corporate greed, keeping us sick
and unwell and, not knowing whowe truly are and not knowing our
power.
And it's by design.
And so as those systems die,that they'll be here and more

(55:05):
present on our planet to be partof that rebirth of the next
phase of our evolution.
Because once we deconstruct, wehave to now build something new
and something more aligned withour consciousness.
But that there seems to be twoseparate paths.
I've seen very clearly thesebeings that have, my, like chips
integrated into their hearts,and it seems like ai, nothing's

(55:30):
good or bad, right?
Like AI technology, it's notgood or bad.
The consciousness behind it,just like medicine, the
consciousness behind it is whatdictates the experience of it.
But I saw very clearly differenttimelines where some people
choose to almost integrate withAI or technology to the
detriment of their own soul,giving their power away to these

(55:51):
tools and becoming completelyinept or spiritually bankrupt,
where other people go on thepath of going inside, evolving
down a path of higherconsciousness.
And, having a very differentexperience than those who choose
to give their power away tothese authorities and become
essentially enslaved.
And I've seen these beings, I'veseen what they look like, and

(56:13):
I've seen that timeline throughmy star family.
I don't know if you've hadsimilar experiences, but that's
what I was shown.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_155248 (56:20):
I was in Columbia in 2017, out in
the middle of the jungledrinking ayahuasca with this
indigenous family, middle ofnowhere, and I stood under an
almost full moon that night forI don't know how many hours, and
I got a download that was almostexactly what you just described,

(56:46):
seeing two different realities.
The, the people who, who mergedwith the AI and the people who
continue to be people.
And the, the message that I gotwas that people of our
generation need to be strong,not only for ourselves, but for
the next generation.
Because there's gonna be a lotof hard questions that need to

(57:06):
be answered, and we're gonnahave to decide what is human.
And, the, the people who are inthe younger generations now,
like they're gonna have to dealwith things that we never even
thought of.
So we need to get our stufftogether right now so that we
can be there to, to support andbe wise elders to this

(57:28):
generation that's gonna havejust with the proliferation of
ai.
And, and like you, I, I don'thave a, a value judgment around
ai.
And I believe at a certain pointof integration, basically, that
when you are, when yourconsciousness, when you get that
chip, that connects your brainto Google and there's no longer

(57:48):
a barrier between your brain andyour consciousness and what's
available on the internet.
When those things merge, thatthe thing that makes us human,
our individuality, that goesaway and we become something
closer to like beehive or likeour, our consciousness changes
in a fundamental way and notgood or bad.

(58:13):
But there, there are someserious consequences to that.
And that, like, that meanssomething the effects of that.
Like, I don't, I don't know, perse.
Yeah.
It's, it's unpredictable.
And that, and that's, that'sexactly the extent of, to where
that vision went for me is likewhen that happens.
It's like that is gonna be a newexperience in all the cosmos.

(58:38):
That is gonna be a novelexperience, not only in this
dimension, but across alldimensions in the universe.
Like there's a reason thatthere's what 8 billion people
who have incarnated on the earthat this time is because, like,
this is where it's at.
This is the best show in thegalaxy, in the, in the universe.
And people wanna be here toexperience it.

(59:02):
Not good or bad, but to justwatch the whole thing unfold.
I was like, and, and, and theextraterrestrials, my sense is
that they're doing the samething too, and, and guiding us
in a way that doesn't infringeon our free will.
And, my sense is that they'redoing what they can within the
boundaries of something that's,that honors our free will and

(59:23):
our.
Ability to make the choice oneway or another.
And, yeah.
So I'm, I'm curious about likeyour, your thoughts on that.

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-2 (59:31):
They certainly conveyed a sense of a
sense of urgency to me.
I had all these experiences overa summer where all this
information came and they werelike, you're gonna write a book.
And I was like, okay.
I literally run a groupcounseling practice.
I have 50 employees, I am sobusy.
I don't have time to like stopand write a book.
And I told my start family, I'mnot gonna write it for like
three people.

(59:51):
Like, I'm not gonna write abook.
Well, I've gotta go find like,what a literary agent, I dunno
how to do any of this.
And they're like, but we gaveyou a book.
And I said, okay, start family.
If you want me to write a book,I'm putting in your hands.
And the synchronicities thatfollowed were like, within 10
days.
My husband was like, Hey, I waslike scrolling through Instagram
and there's like this lady whotakes you to an island and like,
you just write a book in fivedays.

(01:00:12):
And he's like, I bet you coulddo it.
And I was like, oh yeah, it'salready there.
I just need space.
So I go to this island, I writethe book.
And, then my publisher's like,oh, do you wanna be on some TV
shows as a result of your book?
Like, my Star family was like,it's not even out.
And like, I've already filmedone TV show called Legacy Makers
and I'm filming another one inJune.

(01:00:33):
no joke when you say yes, like,when you're like, I'll accept
the assignment, the universe islike, great.
Like, let me just lay it all outfor you.
And that's what happens.
Like when, I don't know, there'slike this singularity now of
vision or purpose for me whereit's like, okay, you all healed
my heart and now you're like,you're gonna give back.

(01:00:55):
And it does feel like it'sconnected to the shift that's
happening in our planet.
And it does feel likeindividually and globally, these
conversations are gonna start tohelp people wake up to the
reality of their power and whothey are.
And it's gonna create thatripple that we talked about in
my podcast, right, this ripplewhere as you heal.
We don't even know how big thatripple is, but it's gonna start

(01:01:18):
activating something thateverybody has forgotten.
But our history is a lie.
And when you start knowingyourself, you start to learn
your history and you start towake up to that and know the
truth of our history becauseit's in our collective DNA
experience.
And, and when we know ourselves,we remember.

(01:01:39):
And then I think we take ourpower back and we choose not to
give it away.
but it's gonna be the people whoare unhealed, who feel so
powerless and like such a victimof this system, they're gonna
opt for that as as a solution.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_155 (01:01:55):
the, the thing that's come to me
recently, is, there's a realacade epidemic of.
Suicide in, in our Westernculture and in suicide, people
are just opting out.
They're like, I, I don't wantthis experience anymore.
I have a sense that merging withthe AI is almost gonna be a more
acceptable version of that.
Just like opting out of thehuman experience.

(01:02:18):
No judgment on, on either ofthose things, but it's, it's
fundamentally, it's gonna comedown to like personal
responsibility and am I capableof manifesting the life that I
want?
If I don't believe that, thenI'm gonna let the AI take over
and I'll just, I'll just showingthe swarm.

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-20 (01:02:40):
And part of the narrative is that
our biology is fundamentallyflawed.
Your immune system is flawed.
Take this medication, your, yourreproductive system is unsafe.
It's unsafe to birth a baby,like.
Let's, let's just cut it out ofyou.
Like, yes, there's a time and aplace for all those things, but
there's a larger narrative atplay, which is, as a human,

(01:03:01):
you're fundamentally flawed andit's not safe to be human.
And so I think we're gonna besold this paradigm of we can
make it better and we can makeit safer, and we can make you
more effective when that's thefurthest thing from the truth.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_1552 (01:03:14):
And I, I think that there's gonna be
some very good marketing aroundthat, and there's gonna be some
good arguments for integratingwith the AI and technology to a
certain extent.
I think a, a really importantconversation that we should all
be having as soon as possible isgoing within, like what we've

(01:03:35):
been talking about and definingour boundaries like immediately.
What, what am I willing to, togive to ai?
What, part of my experience am Iwilling to relegate to ai, to,
to take responsibility for?
And what's the red line that AIdoes not come into?
Like, I, I, I think we need, weneed, everybody needs to know

(01:03:56):
what that boundary is forthemselves.
And, and have that conversationwith yourself.
Go within yourself to seek theanswer, because there's gonna be
a lot of stuff, a lot ofpropaganda, a lot of marketing
material being thrown at us,trying to sway us one way or
another.
And knowing what's right foryou, will give you the, the

(01:04:18):
result and the experience thatyou're, you're meant to have in
a way where you're not going toor be regretful for it, or wish
you had gone the other way.
Like just knowing yourself andwhere your boundaries are and
what you, what kind of life youwant for yourself.
What's important for you.

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-20 (01:04:34):
And we have to look at history just
within one generation.
You and I are old enough thatour childhoods weren't recorded,
weren't like displayed all overInstagram.
We didn't have the internet,when we were growing up.
Like I, I used to have a muchlonger ability to sit down with
the book and read my, myconcentration, used to be

(01:04:54):
longer.
I've noticed shifts withinmyself and my attention span, as
I've learned and become adaptiveto scrolling through Instagram
and getting quick dopamine hits.
And now I see my children, Ihave two sons, right, who have
the attention span of a gnatbecause they grew up with bones
in their hands and they grew upwith technology as a means to
help them with school and, dothe things that, that they

(01:05:17):
didn't wanna do.
Right?
Like they, they were able todelegate those tasks out.
and while it.
Made school a little bit easier,like it comes at a detriment,
and people's brains are shiftingas a result, fertility's at an
all time low just because of thetoxins in the food, you know,
and, and, and the medicine andin the water and in the sky.
And so it's just, we're alreadyseeing, fertility is low,

(01:05:40):
testosterone is low.
Like we're already seeing, theseunintended consequences of
progress that we've made.
And, this is that next step.
And I, in biology it's prettybasic.
If you don't use it, you'regonna lose it, right?
The brain's gonna prune away.
Things that we get exogenouslythat we don't need to worry

(01:06:00):
about endogenously anymorebecause it's so effective.
And so if we're not challengingourselves, challenging our
biology and overcoming obstaclesto push our biology into
continuing to improve, it'sgoing to be PR away.
And we don't know what that'sgonna look like.
so it's a scary thought, but Iwanna leave everybody with hope

(01:06:21):
because we are so much morepowerful.
We are so much more eternal.
We are so divine, and we're notwhat they say that we are.
We're not weak, we're nothelpless.
We, this is just a temporaryexperience and it's meant to be
lived and cherished.
And we need to know ourselves,and we need to know that we're

(01:06:46):
literally creator in a bodyexpressing itself through this
avatar as you and I, andchoosing to have an experience
from this particularperspective.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_155 (01:06:57):
Hmm.

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-20 (01:06:57):
And when we take our power back,
when we heal our trauma, becausethose things are so intimately
connected, then we know thetruth and we don't see through
the lens of our wounds andthrough fear.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_15524 (01:07:09):
If your star family could leave the
people who are listening to thiswith one message, what do you
think that would be beyond whatyou just said, which was really
beautiful.

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-202 (01:07:20):
I, you know, I just heard when you
said that keep an open heart andkeep an open mind,

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_155 (01:07:25):
Hmm.

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13 (01:07:26):
right?
Things are gonna get worsebefore they're going to get
better.
We're gonna, we're walking intosome really uncertain times, and
the truth is very inconvenient.
And this is the time tocultivate faith.
when when things aren'tconsistent, when things feel
really uncertain, that's thetime to go within and to

(01:07:47):
cultivate faith.
So we have to have balancebetween these external chaotic
realities and trying to keep ourinternal reality, as calm and
integrated as possible.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_1552 (01:07:59):
Mic drop.
That was awesome.
Thank you so much for sharingthat.
Much love and appreciation toyour star family part of the
extended star family, I supposeat this point.
And yeah, to hear more aboutyour story and to get more
details the, the book that'scoming out June 1st is Sacred

(01:08:19):
Revolution.
And this, from what Iunderstand, is gonna dovetail
into some retreats, which I, Ican't wait to learn more about
that.
I believe that what you're doingis pivotal and your messages
really comes from a place ofhonesty and, and vulnerability.
Like this isn't necessarily easyto share.

(01:08:41):
This isn't something that'sgoing, that you're doing to, to
take advantage of a certainsituation.
And I'm here with you.
I believe in you.
I, I support you and all thepeople out there who listened to
this, who resonated with this,who feel like, they don't have a
voice or they can't speak up, orthey don't, have context to the,

(01:09:02):
some of the experiences thatthey're having.
If what we talked aboutresonated I, I know you and I
are in a similar place herewhere.
We we're gonna continue to havethese conversations and and
continue to shed light on, ondifferent aspects and areas of
the human condition and theexpansion of consciousness.
So, all the links for, forChristie's book and, anything

(01:09:24):
that she has available is gonnabe in the show notes below.
I'll be looking forward to, toseeing you on the television.
That's pretty cool.

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13- (01:09:31):
Yeah.
Yes.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_1552 (01:09:33):
and hearing more about from your
podcast and learning from, theguests that you have on and,
seeing where this, this wholething goes.

kristy-crabtree-_1_03-13-20 (01:09:40):
Oh, Ian, thank you so much.
Thank you for being like a safespace, and platform to talk
about this and to share thismessage.
And thank you for your work andjust being in this fight of
truth and shifting thisparadigm.
It's so beautiful and Iappreciate it.

ian-vogel_1_03-13-2025_1 (01:09:58):
You're most welcome.
This I have a feeling is notgonna be the last time we
connect and do one of theseconversations.
So yeah, everybody out therecheck out Christie's podcast the
Transcendence talks and keep aneye out for part two or possibly
part three and four of this,whenever those drop.
So