Galactic History, Soul Retrieval & Timeline Healing w/ Renee Slay

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renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (00:00):
I was literally walking between

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dimensions, like I wasexperiencing contacts from
elementals, from cryptids, frominterdimensional beings, from
angels.
All kinds of beings werecontacting me all at once.
They were just one day like,here you go.
Here is a millions of years ofcosmic history and we're just

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gonna give it all to you rightnow and you gotta figure out
what to do with it.
But I know.
In my heart, this is what I camehere to do, is to transmit the
history, help people understandwhere we really came from, and
remember their sovereignty andtheir connection to, to unity
consciousness, and integratingall the parts of themselves.

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Just a big soul retrievalmission.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1 (00:50):
Renee, when you meet somebody for the
first time, say you're at aparty and they ask you what you
do, how do you respond?

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (01:00):
It depends on the party, how

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123 (01:04):
says that and that makes sense.
But

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (01:06):
Yeah.
It so.
If I were to be my authenticself and express who I what I
really do, I would say I am aquantum soul healer and I help
rewrite timelines.
Um, I would say that I'm anenergy reader and I'm able to,

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when I sit with a client, I'mable to actually like
energetically feel what they'refeeling in their body.
I can tell what parts of theirbody they have issues with, so
I'm like, yeah, an energy readerand a timeline writer, a
hypnotherapist.
So I quantum soul healer feelslike the right thing because I'm

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kind of helping people heal intheir physical bodies.
Helping people heal in pastlives, future lives, parallel
lives, this life.
Um, helping people remember whothey are truly is what it comes
down to.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123 (02:11):
When it comes to the, the past life
healing, you know, you said youdo, life regressions, and what
does it, what does it look like?
What does that process looklike, and what do people come to
you for?
Like what, what are they dealingwith when they come to you?

renee_1_07-18-2025_113 (02:27):
Normally I'm gonna sit down with them,
well first we're gonna have aphone call and I'm gonna make
sure this is something we shouldeven do because it can be
intense

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123 (02:37):
Hmm.

renee_1_07-18-2025_1133 (02:37):
because you might actually experience
your death, you know?
So that needs to be somethingthat you are able to mentally
process, emotionally, process,and be able to stay grounded.
So we go through that phonecall, and then when we move
forward.
We'll sit down for a sessionthat's about three to four
hours.
It depends on what happens.

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So I'll interview them, get toknow them, ask them questions
about what they are dealingwith, what they hope to gain
from this, is there anythingthey want to see?
And most of the time they,sometimes I, sometimes they are
coming in just wanting toexperience a past life.
They don't really know what theywanna heal.

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But then other times it could besomeone who is dealing with an
eating disorder or someone whokeeps attracting toxic people in
their life, or someone who can'thold onto money no matter what
they do.
They're just always impoverishedor they are scared to be their
authentic selves.
It's a persecution wound.
So it can be all kinds ofreasons.

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Sometimes people just wanna havefun and they're like, I just
wanna know, you know,'cause it.
Opens up a different part ofyour perspective that you
haven't experienced before.
So then we, I figure out whatthey are, like, what they're
into, what imagery they resonatewith their belief systems,
because I don't wanna offendpeople either.

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So I'm just kinda getting anoverall general picture of who
they are and what kind ofjourney I'm gonna take them on.
And then I'm gonna take themthrough a relaxation process and
different techniques to helpthem go into hypnosis easier.
Some people take a littlelonger.
I don't just do progressiverelaxation.

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I do all different kinds oftechniques because it's gonna
help that person go deeper intothe subconscious, the more
techniques you use.
So you could have them likestare at a wall and count out
loud, or have them move theireyes back and forth.
You know, just differenttechniques that.
Makes their brain wanna give upand they're like, okay, I'm

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ready.
So then we get into hypnosis andI'm just gonna take them.
Normally we will take, I'll takethem to some kind of setting,
maybe a movie theater or a lakeof water or they're looking at a
mirror.
It just depends on the person.
Some kind of reflective surfaceor some, or somewhere where they
can see a movie, see a picture.

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It just depends on the person.
Like if I know they're reallyinto movies, I'm gonna take'em
to a movie theater.
If they're really into nature,I'm gonna take'em to a waterfall
that has a reflective pool thatthey can turn into the screen.
So then I have them connect withtheir higher cells while I
ground them, go through someenergy protection just to make

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sure that we are being groundedand not going all over the
place.
Um,'cause it is a very intenseprocess and you just never know
where you're gonna go.
Exactly.
So I try to be reallyintentional.
And that I want their higherself to show them what they need
to know right now, what theyneed to experience right now.
Even if they just wanna havefun, I let them know this is

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like, this is a healing journey.
So this, you know, things aregonna come up that need to be
healed.
That's just the way my processworks.
So then they, they are, look,they, they're connecting with
their higher self.
And then we allow the past life,future life, parallel life,
whatever comes up to start tomanifest.

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Um, sometimes I will even havethem like walk down hallways and
there will be different doorwaysand they can walk through the
doorway into the life and I canhave them begin to imagine their
clothes changing and, and thatway kind of works.
Or I'll have them kind of gointo the pool of water and it's
like a portal.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123 (06:34):
Hmm.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (06:34):
And then they become that life.
And I just take them on whateverjourney I decide is the right
way to get there.
And they will experience a scenefrom a life.
You know, they'll see, itdepends on how visual people are
because there are some peoplewho will just get glimpses

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because their third eyes haven'tbeen practiced very much or they
just can't visualize at all.
And I've had a few clients likethat.
So that is a little bit, thereare more feeling energy, seeing
shapes and lights and stuff.
But I do believe those peoplewho can't see, they do
eventually begin to open up tothat.

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I, it's a blockage from myexperience.
Something happened to make themclose off their site, but 95% of
the time people can visualizepretty well.
So I could give an example.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (07:30):
I'm particularly curious about the
parallel lives thing becauseI've, as I was sharing with you
before we got on, I recent,actually yesterday had an
experience of not exactly beingthere, but I've, I was able to
perceive a parallel life, whichis relatively uncommon for me.

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I mean, I've, I've had theexperience before and even had
experiences where I've been ableto almost get a glimpse of lives
that weren't mine, that theydidn't feel familiar what
whatsoever, but I felt like Iwas being shown something.
For a reason that there wassomething I was supposed to
learn, uh, but yeah, like what,what is your experience and like

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some of your experiences withyour clients in accessing
parallel lives and what is thatlike for you?

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (08:21):
So.
Honestly, it's only come up afew times with clients.
This is mainly something that Igo through myself, but when it
has come up, it's, it's becauseit's normally grief or they lost
someone, or there is somethingthey need to communicate to
someone who's still alive inanother timeline.

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Does that make sense?

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12 (08:44):
yeah.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (08:45):
So for me, like the times that I
have worked with paralleltimelines, it's to communicate
to people who have passed on.
Like, for, like, I will give anexample of someone in my own
life.
So I had a roommate and triggerwarning to people who listened
to this, but he did pass awayfrom s*de I had a, a lucid

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astral experience where I was ina timeline, another timeline
where he, I was in the samehouse.
My roommate was alive still, andit was still, it was like the
same world that I live in now.
But things were slightlydifferent.
It was like I had jumped in tothe body of me in a parallel

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timeline where he hadn'tcommitted s*de, but he was
pondering it in that lifetime.
So I ended up talking to him andletting him know I am from a
timeline where you died like youjust died, and you can't do that
to yourself in this life becauseyour friends and family loved

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you so much.
They came to your funeral.
There were so many people therewho expressed how much they
loved you and how much they wishyou were still here and you need
to know how loved you are andthat you can't take your life
because you regret it so much.
His ghost was bothering me in mytimeline because he was like,

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damn it, why did I do that?
He was mad at himself.
So it was, that is the kind ofstuff where I like the kind of
timeline rewriting thathappened.
So whatever, for some reason Iwas needed to go there.
To help him not do that.
And it helped.
He believed me.
And so this is the kinda workyou can do with clients is not

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to permit s*de, but tocommunicate with loved ones, the
kind of messages they need togive on or like give them some
kind of closure.
I feel like it's a beautifulthing and it's happened to me
with several other people in mylife who have passed where I've
gotten to meet them in atimeline where they're alive
still and talk to them.

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But I'm aware that I'm not fromthere.
Every dream that it happens,it's not like I'm lost in that
world.
I'm aware that I am visiting atimeline that is not mine.
So.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12332 (11:06):
so there, there's some sort of
unresolved energy orrelationship, or do you find
that it's usually some sort ofinterpersonal relationship that
will pull somebody into aparallel

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (11:19):
I think it's normally someone that
was close to you.
Yeah.
But I have, you're talking aboutseeing lifetimes that don't
belong to you.
That has, sometimes I willrandomly remote view, like I
will be laying down in bed and Iwill see a tunnel and then my
consciousness is flying and I'mseeing someone walking down a

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street holding a briefcase.
I'm seeing a family eating in aliving room or, and watching tv.
I'm seeing glimpses of lifetimesof people that I don't know.
So that could be somethingthat's happening to you where
you're like, you might betraveling.
Because when I travel, I willsee it's like.
My consciousness is able towitness.

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It's my astral body, I think,flying through the planet or
something.
I don't know if that's everhappened to you.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12 (12:10):
It's, I, I've, I've Astro projected
exactly two times and.
It was never that I'mconsciously aware of.
And, and neither one of thosetimes was intentional.
There was, there, there was a,there was a period of time where
I was practicing.
I, I was trying to astralproject intentionally and I had

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a, a whole practice around itand I was, I think I was doing
the, the rope, like the pulling

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (12:37):
Oh yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (12:39):
And I would get to the point where
my body would start to, wouldstart to vibrate and I felt like
I was about to pop out, I wouldget freaked out and

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (12:48):
oh,

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325 (12:49):
I was never able to

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (12:50):
to like break through.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12332 (12:52):
I, I got right up next to it, but I
was never able to break through.
I was, I just wasn't able to getquite deep in, deeply relaxed
enough.
but it did happen two times,seemingly.
Randomly.
So I, I, I

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (13:05):
It happens to me randomly too.
It's like not usually somethingI'm trying to do.
It'll just happen.
The most recent one where I'vebeen sleeping, my bed will
vibrate, my body will vibrate.
Literally, it feels like I'm inan earthquake and everything's
shaking, and that's why I knowI'm about to leave and I've,

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I've been astral projecting, Ithink.
I'm pretty sure that's what'shappening, but I keep, I'm in
these buildings where there's,people are working in the
buildings and they aren't awarethat I'm there and I'm hearing
their conversations and I'm ableto float through like secret
rooms that are locked.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123 (13:47):
Hmm.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (13:48):
I know.
So I'm astral projecting andhearing secret conversations and
it feels, I'm not even gonna sayit, I don't want to get your
podcast pledge, but it feelsconnected to the, the GOV, you
know.
Um, and that's new one for mebecause I haven't been asked to
projecting much lately, but thelast three times in a row it's

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been this building full of Armypeople.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123 (14:15):
Hmm.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (14:16):
And they, but I can see them and
they can't see me.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12 (14:20):
Well,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (14:21):
And I'll be like, floating in the
seat, the top of the ceiling.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12 (14:25):
well, I, I, I get a sense that we're
in a, a time where, you know, aswe speak right now, this is the,
we're the deep in the midst ofthe Epstein files.
They're talking about wanting torelease them, or they're,
they're being prevented frombeing released by the, the
current administration.
Who knows who, who knows howthat's gonna play out in the

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future, but I, I sense there'san underlying energy just within
our collective consciousness ofwanting.
For secrecy to end or wantingthere, for there to be more
transparency around like reallyserious situations that, that
affect our collectiveconsciousness and that they're

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the, the universe is justcreating these different
scenarios where things arebubbling up to the surface, be
it the Epstein files or peopleare being in astral projected
and brought to spaces wherethere are secretive things
happening so that, you know, forwhatever reason, you're able to,

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like, I, I, I trust that you'regoing to tell or not tell
whatever's appropriate, but, butthat, that information, it's.
It's no longer being able to beconfined.
Like it's, it's finding its wayout to the

renee_1_07-18-2025_11330 (15:41):
Right.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (15:43):
And it's like this, this secrecy
thing, the way that it has beenfor so long, it's breaking down
on multiple levels.
And I think like what you'redescribing is probably just one
aspect of, of our, this deepcollective consciousness, desire
for humanity to, to be sovereignand for us to not be beholden to

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the, the governments or theseold systems that are not working
in our greatest good.

renee_1_07-18-2025_11330 (16:09):
That's just so funny that I'm go, I'm
going to sleep and I'm like, I'mgonna spy.
That's so me.
That's so me.
I always wanted to be a spy.
I guess you can just do it inthe astral realm, you know?
That's so funny.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (16:24):
the government has had, I forget
exactly what the name of theprogram is, but the, you know,
the government has employed.
As pro, uh, people who, who doremote viewing.
It's, it's a well known thing.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (16:36):
Oh yeah, I did know about that.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (16:38):
was it Project Stargate?
I forget exactly what the nameof the, of the project was, but
it's, it's, it's well known andpeople have been talking about
it openly.
It's been disclosed for, forquite some time.
So this is not a, you know, thefact that people can Astro
Project is a,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (16:54):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-20 (16:54):
government is well aware of and has been
well aware of for quite sometime.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (16:59):
It's so weird too, because when it's,
when it's happening, I'm able tocontrol, like I can go through
the walls like they're jello.
So that's how I know I'm not abody because the, because I
don't feel the walls, I don'tfeel anything.
So that's been kind of cool.
That's been kind, but I'm, I'mnot like consciously remembering

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a lot of what I'm seeing.
I think I must be subconsciouslystoring it, maybe because it's,
it's probably something intense.
So that's been the kind of stuffthat's been happening to me the
past two weeks is like, for awhile I was not experiencing
this stuff much at all.
Like for a few years it kindastopped.
And then the past two weeks,it's just been so much contact,

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so many downloads, the universecommunicating with me, feeling
like I'm like stepping back intoputting myself in a more public
eye.
'cause I've been just hiding inthe shadows for a couple years
except on TikTok.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12332 (18:00):
So you're, you're saying that
there, there was a period oftime where your, uh, senses were
maybe more heightened or youwere having more sensory or
psychic experiences, and thenthat kind of subsided for a
while and now they're startingto become, uh, more, more a part
of your everyday life again.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (18:20):
Yeah, so it was, I was literally
walking between dimensions, likeI was experiencing contacts from
elementals, from cryptids, frominterdimensional beings, from
angels.
All kinds of beings werecontacting me all at once.
Plus, I had military stuff goingon.

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I had a human trauma occurringto me at the same time.
So there was so much stuffhappening, and that's how I
lived life for a while.
And it was, I mean, directcontact.
I would ask source for a sign, Iwould get a direct message like
I had.
I would had direct knowing I wasdownloading all of the history

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of the cosmos and how humanscame to earth, where we came
from, how this earth came, theway it became, the way it was.
They showed me visions of ithappening.
They showed me things I hadnever heard of before, like full
on visions and I was awakeduring these visions.
So that was crazy.

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They were just one day like,here you go.
Here is a millions of years ofcosmic history and we're just
gonna give it all to you rightnow and you gotta figure out
what to do with it.
So I am a record keeper.
That is one of my roles here is,is to transmit the light into

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the grids and hold the recordsfor disclosure to the
collective.
And I think doing this, these,this quantum healing with people
is a way that I'm helping aswell, because I'm also giving
people the codes they need to.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12 (20:04):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, like, if, if you were arepository for a, a lot of
information, then it, it wouldmake sense that you, I mean,
doing the role that you'redoing, helping guide people to,
to whatever, you know, whateversituation they need for either
learning or healing or, or both.

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It seems like you'd be in a, arather unique situation to be
able to facilitate that sort of,journey or experience for
somebody.
And now I, I believe on somelevel, everybody has that
capacity.
And on some level, everybody hasthat capacity and.

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We all have roles to play, andjust because you can make a
downloads of information doesn'tmean that that's necessarily in
alignment with your soul's groupblueprint or your mission or
your in this lifetime.

renee_1_07-18-2025_1133 (21:04):
Mm-hmm.
Hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (21:05):
you know, it takes, it takes all of
us working together to, tocreate this like, tapestry of
humanity.
And, and I really think of itas, as like a play, like we all
have different parts to play,uh,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (21:17):
Yeah.
And we all have differenttalents and different gifts and
different, we have differentthings that we came.
We can't all do the same thing.
There's just

ian-vogel_1_07-18-20 (21:27):
everything all at once.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (21:29):
and that's what I would always try
to do is everything all at once.
'cause I do have a lot ofdifferent abilities and it made
it very hard for me to choosewhere to focus.
But I know.
In my heart, this is what I camehere to do, is to transmit the
history, help people understandwhere we really came from, and
remember their sovereignty andtheir connection to, to unity

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consciousness, Christo'sconsciousness, remembering their
holy mother and integrating allthe parts of themselves.
Just a big soul retrievalmission.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12332 (22:02):
So would you say that there was a
period of time where youreceived a lot of information
but then you had to take anintegration period where there
was, you know, where therewasn't as much input so that you
could kind of digest what youhad been given so that you could
actually utilize it in ameaningful way?

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (22:22):
Yes, definitely.
Um, I would say that, that thatbig information like that
happened for a good, I would saythree and a half years.
It was pretty long.
Then I got into a badrelationship and what, you know,

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what your higher self will dowhen you're in toxic
relationships?
It will close parts of you offto protect you.
So I didn't get completelyclosed off.
I was still pretty connected,but it was slowly closing in on
me.
And then I realized that I wasalways looking outside of myself

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for answers outside of myself,for like, God, please tell me,
should I be with this person?
Show me a sign.
And I'm like, I can't be askingthat all the time.
I gotta listen to myself.
So it was the trauma that didit, but it was also just my time
to learn how to listen to myselfand how to remember that I do

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have my spirit family that lovesme.
I have my galactic family thatloves me.
I have my angels that loves me.
They're always there.
They're always protecting me,but they also have other people
they gotta help too.
And I can't always expect themto be there at my every beck and
call when I need guidance orwhere I don't know which way to
go.
You have to learn how to guidemyself.

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You can't just, I think youtalked about that analogy, like
you can't get someone throughschool and then expect them.
Expect them to like keepteaching you when you graduated
already.
It's like you already know whatto do.
I can't keep following youaround forever.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12 (24:05):
Yeah, I mean at, at some point it,
some point it is useful to havementors and once they transmit
their information to you, onceyou learn what you need to
learn, if you hang onto thatmentor, mentor, that person who
at, at one point helped you toexpand, then becomes like a ball
and chain or is restricting youfrom away, uh, from, from being

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able to maybe find a, adifferent mentor or go out on
your own and have a, a path ofself-initiation.

renee_1_07-18-2025_11330 (24:33):
Right?

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325 (24:34):
I think Ramdas talks about this
beautifully and, and he talksabout it a lot, like don't get
attached to the practice becausethe thing that, that at one
point in time helps you feelexpansive.
you're not really self-aware,it's hard to pinpoint when, when
that practice goes from helpingyou to holding you back.

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Like you go, you go over thatmiddle line and it's.
It's really, you're reallyhonest with yourself and have a
ton of self-awareness, it's hardto differentiate where that
point is

renee_1_07-18-2025_1133 (25:08):
Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (25:09):
And most people don't realize that
they're, that they're in a placeof being held back by, you know,
by tool they're using

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (25:18):
Or guru, they're following like.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123 (25:22):
Same kind of thing.
People often don't realize thatuntil, until they look back and
like, oh, dang, I've been doingthis thing for the last couple
years and my life hasn't beenimproving.
Maybe it's time for me to, tolike or really consider what's
going on here.
And, and it all kind of.
down to how attached we are tothe tools or the, the vector or

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the, you know, our, our path orthe guru or whatever it is that
we, that external thing that wefeel like is, is helping us to
progress.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (25:53):
And it like when you're, my mentors,
were all like galactic beings,so you feel really attached to
them when you get to like bearound that energy.
And that's something you don'twanna let go of because.
As someone who is a star seedand is not from this earth, but
is an a human now, I never feltlike I fit in.

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I never felt like I had thatconnection with anyone.
And so my guides just helped meso much and they helped me
through my re toxic relationshiptoo, like letting me know they
didn't leave me, guiding me,giving me synchronicities,
helping me know which way to go.
And then I left thatrelationship and I moved to a
new city and they cut off allcontact with me.

(26:41):
Literally I started a newtimeline.
Yep.
They're like, we got you herenow you gotta figure it out,
girl.
And it was very hard becauseyeah, I go through, I have a
like chronic pain and otherthings that I deal with, so, and

(27:02):
leaving an abusive relationship,my nervous system was so shot.
I was very mad at the universefor do, for making me feel
abandoned.
And then I got in my victimenergy for a long time and it
put me on like a deep, darknight of the soul journey where
I really had to learn how to bethere for myself and how to
reconnect to my body andreconnect to my breath, and not

(27:25):
always seeking outside of myselfalways.
And that's where I, uh.
That's where I get like soapprehensive with all these
channelers and stuff too,because they're always seeking
and you don't know what else isseeking you out there.
You don't really know where yourchannel's going.
'cause we're more powerful thanpeople know.
They're tuning into all kinds ofweird shit.

(27:49):
So tune into yourself, connectwith your multidimensional
selves, your higher selves.
You have so many aspects of you.
Your over soul is massive.
There are so many parts of youthat you can connect with.
It doesn't have to be somethingelse.
But I do still work with myguides and different, you know,
different energies, but I'm notrelying on them for shit.

(28:10):
You know, you can't rely on themto get you through.
And so I've been in thatintegration period for two
years.
Yeah.
So I have honestly not beenworking with clients much the
past two years because I neededto work on me.
And just, I guess since Istarted reconnect or connecting

(28:31):
with you recently, I've reallybeen feeling this energy that
it's time for me to get it backout there and offer this work.
'cause it's, I really believelike soul retrieval is a very
important thing, like a veryimportant part of healing and a
very important part of peopleremembering who they are and
being able to, we have tointegrate our whole selves if we

(28:55):
wanna ascend, you know, peoplewe're just trying to escape and
we're relieving all the bits ofus behind that are scattered
here throughout all thedifferent timelines of crap.
Like I'll give, I wanna give onemore example of like a past life
regression that I did, and shedid give me permission to
discuss this.
So she was struggling witheating disorder in this life and

(29:19):
could not, and was very, verystru like struggling to.
Be able to not emotionally eat.
She felt like she never hadenough food and she knew it was
something past life related.
And I took her into this pastlife where she was an indigenous
man who was excommunicated fromhis tribe and there was no

(29:41):
resources and he had no weapons.
And so he starved to death, andthat was keeping her in this
lifetime feeling like she couldnot get enough food and was
making herself sick from it.
And so we healed that part ofher in that timeline and it
really did help her in thisreality.

(30:02):
And so just things like that,like your past life could be
doing so many things to you thatyou don't even realize is
connected to your past life, orit could be just, I mean, it
doesn't have to be an illness.
It can be, you know, justfeeling insecure or feeling like
you can't use your voice or.
Your knee hurts all the time andyou don't know why and you never

(30:24):
did anything to your knee.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2 (30:27):
Birthmarks.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (30:28):
yeah, birth, that's another cool one.
I have a huge birthmark.
So when they gave me all thosevisions, they showed me when I
lived in Atlantis and I was aMer person that lived in
Atlantis and they showed me whenAtlantis fell and there was like
fire from the sky.
But also they don't talk abouthow the titans came out of the

(30:50):
ocean during the fall ofAtlantis and crush everything at
the same time.
So we had destruction comingfrom the ocean as well as from
the sky.
And I have a huge birthmark inthe center of my, like in my
inner thigh that's about thisbig.
And in that vision they showed apiece of shrapnel from a

(31:12):
building going right through mymiddle it exactly where the
birthmark is.
And after that happened, sometriangle, like freckles in the
shape of a triangle, an upsidedown triangle appeared on my
birthmark, which representswater.
I thought that was weird.
That's something they kinda dois like, leave, they'll leave

(31:32):
like freckles in the shapes oflike constellations and things
on my body as I integrate moreparts of myself.
It's like, like a star map.
So the, the, the marks on ourbodies are actually maps of our
soul blueprint.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123 (31:49):
I've got a couple of birthmarks and,
one right,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (31:52):
Oh.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12 (31:53):
right behind on the, on my back, the
left, left center of my ribcage, so like right here on the,
on my back and yeah, throughsome of the exploration I've
done in past lives, it's like,oh, that right behind my heart,
that was a stab wound.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (32:13):
Oh

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12332 (32:14):
So I, I'm, I'm pretty aware of I
the fact that birthmarks andthese di different kinds of
markings that, that people haveon their bodies are.
Nine or almost entirely a resultfrom some sort of past life
trauma.
And I've got, I've got one on myleg too, but I, I haven't, I
haven't really felt the need toexplore that, but I'm, there's

(32:36):
something there.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (32:37):
yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (32:38):
I'm curious about the, the soul
retrieval,'cause you broughtthat up a couple times and, a
past life regression thatdoesn't necessarily involve soul
retrieval.
So when you talk about soulretrieval, uh, what exactly do
you mean by that?
And, and what can that looklike?
And, and just elaborate a littlebit more about your work with

(33:00):
that.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (33:01):
So I don't necessarily do past life
regression like other people do.
I have kind of created my owntechnique that just, it just
intuitively unfolded that way.
And what I will do is during aregression, after they
experience the trauma orwhatever their, you know, it

(33:22):
could be their death or somekind of event that really, you
know, hurt their soul, I willthen have, wash away the memory.
And I will have, I will havethem remember it in a different
way.
So I will recreate the imagery,but I will, you know, if it
could, maybe it's a past lifewhere their lover, you know,

(33:45):
killed them or something.
And this lifetime I could makeit to where their lover didn't
kill them and they grew happyand old together.
And you know, they died togetheran old age and she died with a
happy heart.
So even though it didn't happenthat way, I'm rewriting the
timelines with new imagery andnew memories, which removes the

(34:07):
pain and the trauma that isassociated with that memory.
And then I will have that healedpart of them in the memory where
they're not hurting anymore.
And the, and it was rewrittenand I will imagine it go them
going into a ball of light andgoing into the person and
integrating them into theirsoul, which is helping heel the

(34:29):
fractured part.
Because when we go throughtrauma.
It does, it creates soulfracturing, meaning, uh, bits of
us, bits of our soul are stuckin that timeline, that trauma,
that memory because somethinghappened and we couldn't let go
of it.
And not every memory is going todo that.

(34:50):
Not every lifetime is going tofracture your soul.
It just depends on whathappened.
Some things are, you know,really, really hard to, to live
through.
And then they integrate it backinto them and it kind of, it, I
mean, it does rewrite thattrauma so they're no longer
stuck to that reality.
And, and then they can let go ofit, and then they move on to the

(35:13):
next piece.
And whatever comes up the nextsession, it's always something
different.
Like, I've never had, I've neverdone that work, and someone
said, oh, I still feel stuckthere, or I still feel like this
is bothering me.
Like it works pretty instantly.
It's not something you have todo multiple times.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325 (35:29):
I find it fascinating because
you've developed your ownintuitive method of, of doing
what I'll call parts work.
And, but there, there areseveral different modalities
that, that revolve aroundworking with parts.
NLP has some, has some partswork in it.
There's the internal familysystems has parts work, I

(35:52):
believe that's what it's called.
There are people who have cometo the same conclusion and, you
know, they, they have differentnames for it, but they're, you
really look at the, theirmethodologies and how they talk
about them and how they definethem, the parts and how they
work with reintegrating theparts, you know, there are some

(36:15):
differences, but and large, theway that they're going about
bringing this healing to theperson through integration of
these parts of their selves thatare, that have somehow become
separated from, you know, the,the wholeness of who they are.
That there is a, a deep healingthat comes from that and, and

(36:39):
there are different ways anddifferent modalities that have,
have come to that sameconclusion and do that same kind
of work.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (36:46):
Yeah, I think it's something I feel
like, so from my research, it'sactually something Shamans did
in ancient times.
And so what I believe is thatwe're intuitively remembering
those skills that we had fromour past lives, that that's
something that we did in.
Because I really feel connectedto indigenous culture, but I'm

(37:08):
not, I have, I have very minimalindigenous blood, but I do have
indigenous ancestors that visitme.
So they do still care about me.
And I feel I've, I have hadmemories of being an indigenous
woman and I think that that,that is something that I did.
I know that's something that Idid in the past.
So I think that's why it came tome so easily is because it's

(37:30):
just me remembering somethingthat I already did, which is
really cool to think about.
'cause if I had never went tohypnotherapy college, this never
would've happened.
So like every step led me thereand, but I really needed to work
on myself first before I could,because this is intense work.
And it is a lot on, on thepractitioner too, I'm an empath.

(37:52):
But even with extensive techprotection techniques for myself
as an empath, you still do pickup some energy.
And I'm a trans mutter.
I'm an alchemizer.
So that's something that I do.
I transmute energy for people,for places, for the grid, for
the planet, for the collective.
That's why I'm in pain all thetime.

(38:12):
So I have to be like, it's likeone session a day kind of work,
not something I would wanna do.
Two back to back sessions forsure.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123 (38:20):
When I was facilitating psychedelic
ceremonies, there's this kind ofrunning joke amongst the, the
group of facilitators.
We, we called ourselves like thekidneys of humanity.
we just on some level, yeah,you're right.
There are practices you can doEnergetic hygiene.
Hygiene is super important.

(38:40):
When you're in that role andyou're working with people who
are coming into a space that youare curating and creating for

renee_1_07-18-2025_1133 (38:49):
Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12 (38:50):
like, yeah, there's like, you are
responsible.
We are all responsible for our,our own energies No matter how
much, you know, how manypractices you have, there is
always going to be at least someshred of energy that, that you
do take on.
And that I believe that it's, onsome level it's, I mean, you

(39:13):
could look at it as burdensomeand you could look at it as, as
like just kind of taking one forthe team or like, I, I wish I
didn't have to to do this.
My perspective of it is thatwhen we take on somebody else's
energy to either transmute or,alchemize in some way, that that
is also alchemizing andtransmuting something that is

(39:37):
within us.
So like we receive healing, bywe, the person who is, who is
taking on external energy.
Like when you learn how toremove that and heal that, it's
not.
Uh, that external energy thatyou've taken on, but there is
also an aspect of yourself thatgets healed in some way.

(39:57):
So, even though it was a lot ofwork and there, there were times
where it was not fun andunpleasant.
Uh, as you said, like sometimesphysical aches and pains

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (40:05):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123 (40:05):
feel familiar to me.
I always try to look at itthrough the end lens of, okay,
this, there's something for meto learn in this.
I may not be consciously awareof what this is, but I, I trust
that, that I am being healed insome way from this as well.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (40:20):
Yeah, that's a good way to look at it.
And it is.
I mean, it definitely is healingyou too.
'cause everybody you meet,everybody that comes into your
life in some way, you'reconnected to them.
We're all connected through theweb.
So there's somewhere somethingin that session that will
definitely heal something in youtoo.
I really like that.

(40:41):
I think that's important to talkabout too.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (40:43):
I'm really curious about your
perspective of our galactic orour, the history of humanity and
this, I know this is potentiallya, a very big topic and there
are so many people out thereand, and more and more people

(41:04):
who are coming forward talkingabout their perspective on the,
the evolution of humanity and,and how we came to be the way
that we are in this situation onthis planet.
If we look at the currentscientific paradigm.
Things just don't really add up.
Like there's, there's someunexplained phenomenon that is

(41:27):
observable in humanity today.
Like the doubling of our brainmass over a relatively short
period of time.
Some of the abnormalabnormalities with human
chromosomes.
And there are a lot of peopleout there now talking of about
their beliefs and, and theirperception of our past and our,

(41:49):
our history and how humans as weknow them and as we know
ourselves to be today came tobe.
I, I am very curious about yourperspective, given the fact that
you've, received a lot ofinformation and some level, I, I
believe that we, you know, theway that we perceive information
is a result of our own personallived experiences and.

(42:14):
That, that's gonna lookdifferent for everybody.
But I, I'd love to hear maybe a,maybe a 30,000 foot view.
'cause I know there's

renee_1_07-18-2025_1133 (42:22):
There's a lot and the cold.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325 (42:25):
a lot.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (42:25):
The cool thing is though, everything
I saw, there are other, thereare sacred scribes who have
recorded the exact informationthat the Elohim showed me.
So I have verified, like theinformation they've showed me,
there are other people who havereceived the same stuff.
So that's kind of where I'mlike, I'll have dreams and they
tell me things and I wake up andGoogle it and there's this lady

(42:46):
who's channeling the exactinformation from the same beings
that I am.
So they the alo him the Emeraldorder.
So this is the Lyres, theSyrians, this is the founders of
the universe and they created.
The Orfe who were 12 strandangelic humans.

(43:12):
There was a galactic battle inLara.
There's been many galacticbattles and over time we ended
up coming into what is calledTara, the planet Tara.
That is the fifth dimensionalaspect of earth.
So over time we had to leave RAand we started migrating to
other planets.
So in Tara, that was angelichumanity.

(43:33):
That was where we descended fromHumans, descended from five D
Tara.
So Tara had a twin sister,binary planet called ott, who
was a fifth dimensional aspectof earth in an in a binary
universal system.
So not in the same solar system,but they're twins energetically

(43:55):
in another universe.
I know this is kind of a lot.
Okay.
So Tama is actually thegatekeeper of the 10th Stargate
in Sumaria, which is now Iraq.
So there's been a battle goingon for that Stargate for a very
long time.
She was actually the gatekeeperof the guardian of Eden.
She's the gatekeeper of theChrist Buddha avatar matrix into

(44:19):
this solar system.
So when she was destroyed in agalactic battle, we were no
longer able to enter the solarsystem in from a higher
dimension.
So, and she was also, she's thefeminine asked planetary logos
of Earth.
Okay.
So, but they're twins.

(44:39):
Tara and TMA are twins.
They're different but similar.
Okay.
There was a galactic battle thatoccurred.
Tara was destroyed.
Tia Ma was destroyed when Tarawas destroyed.
They siphoned the, the bits ofTara and all the people who
lived here who were fifthdimensional humans, who had what

(44:59):
we would call superpowers.
They were siphoned into areversal phantom matrix system.
And some parts of Tara and TMOcame into the solar system,
created the asteroid belt, andall of the planets that we know
of today.
That is how Earth became Earth.
So Earth fell from Tara.
So Earth humans are technicallyfallen angels if we want to be

(45:23):
technical.
And when Tia Mot was exploded.
They siphoned her energy into areversal system, and that
created what we know as the omo.
The omo is the wounded femininearchetype.
They siphoned her energy into anunderworld, phantom matrix, and
used her energy to birthanti-life forms.

(45:45):
So these are called the moonchain lineages.
So this is, this is allconnected to the moon and lunar
fallen lunar energies.
Okay?
Ott was destroyed by, by MarDuke, the son of Anky that he's,
they were Anunnaki Anky and inlil are not good guys.
Okay.
So this began, this was thebeginning of the destruction of

(46:09):
the divine feminine and thesolar queens, because Tia Mott
was an aspect of the holymother, Sophia.
So this began the fall of thedivine feminine and the
inability for embodied divinefeminine to incarnate in the
solar system because everythingwas reversed on itself.
So.
Now we have Earth, andthroughout time we've, they have

(46:30):
tried to reopen the Stargates.
Here we have 12 Stargates onEarth, actually, 13.
The 13th is in the inner sun andthe core of the earth.
We have been trying to bringChristo's light, Christo's
consciousness, which is from thefounder races, the Lns, the
Syrians.
This is the threefold founderflame.

(46:51):
These beings are connected tothe mother arc, the father arc,
the gold ray, the Blu-ray, theviolet ray.
So these are the founders of ouruniversal matrix.
So they ascent, Indigos and starseeds here to prac or to, it's,
it's called the covenant ofPalor.
So we are actually recoveringthe lost souls of Tara, because

(47:14):
the souls of Tara are strewnthrough this earth.
They are inside people.
They're inside the grids,they're inside the miasma of the
earth.
Yeah, they have been stuck inthe grids.
And then when you, when you takeinto account all the gnocide all
of the wars that have happenedand the lay lines that was
strategically placed to blockthe grids so that the star gates

(47:36):
cannot be activated.
So there are the Indigos and thestar seeds who are carrying the
Emerald Covenant.
They are carrying the threefoldfounder flame within them, the
12 strand or DNA blueprint, theoriginal angelic blueprint.
We are the ones that are holdthe record keepers and holding
the light into the grids.

(47:58):
We are pulling, so source lightin these, the full, the
threefold founder flame, whichis the mother, the father, the
holy child that is the Trinity,not.
Father, son, holy Spirit.
So we're anchoring the thatthreefold founder flame and we
are actually reigniting thearchitecture of the earth.

(48:18):
We are helping the earth ascendby being the living blueprint of
Christo Sophia and doing gridwork and just being ourselves
and just doing what we came hereto do and being embodied in our
truth.
Some people are actively doinggrid work.
Some I have done that myself.
I've remote viewed and done gridwork before, but every indigo

(48:40):
and star seed has theirdifferent purpose here.
They are holding a differentfrequency or we're all, we're
all from the same source, but weall came here to work on
different parts.
So my, that is what they showedme.
So essentially there's just beenmany galactic battles that have
caused humanity to fall furtherand further and further that
have created this phantommatrix.

(49:02):
And those beings that createdthis phantom matrix are still in
control of this planet today.
They are the Anunnaki.
They are the fallen beings.
They are the negative alienagenda, the reptilians, the
grays.
There's a lot of them.
There's fallen arcturians,there's negative Syrian Anunnaki
beings.
There's pian Anunnaki beings.

(49:23):
A lot of them are hybridized totrick you.
So that is who is in control ofthis planet.
And then we have the Indigos andstar seeds who incarnated here
to hack the matrix.
They have their little darkphantom hole and we are coming
in as viruses and their matrixspreading the light and

(49:46):
reawakening everyone here justby being ourselves.
And when that, when all theStargates are reopened, then
people can truly begin toactivate more DNA strands.
That's essentially what we'redoing is reactivating our
angelic blueprint.
Some people have four strands ofDNA.
Some people have.
Six, some people have 12, somepeople even have 24.

(50:07):
And that is what we are workingtowards.
And when that happens and youactivate your or FM blueprint,
this is actually how angelichumans experience physical
immortality.
And we're able to trans locatethemselves out of space and time
across reality and rejoining theInterdimensional Free World
Council, the InterdimensionalFree World Council are the

(50:28):
guardian beings who protect themultiverse and, and keep it in
alignment with the law of oneand Christo's consciousness.
That is what I have been shown.
Okay.
Whew.
That was a big stream ofconsciousness.
Whew.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12 (50:47):
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's uh, potentially a a lotthere and I'll just be com
completely like lot of that wentover my head.
Um,

renee_1_07-18-2025_11330 (51:02):
Sorry.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (51:03):
I'm just, yeah.
I'm just kind of sharing kind ofhow, how that landed and, it,
none of it, none of it feelswrong or, or incorrect or
incomplete.
And it's just like, the, thelanguage that, that you're
using, like other people mightuse, use different language to,
explain the, the same sorts ofthings or the same sorts of

(51:24):
archetypes or the same, the samesorts of systems.
I think there's, I think that'sone of the, one of the things
that is potentially reallyconfusing to people when they,
hear something like what youjust shared,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (51:36):
Yeah, that was definitely a, that was
a download from a higher realm.
That was not me consciouslyspeaking.
So that was like me not taking abreath and just like, whew.
So I would try to explain it indifferent words.
I don't even really rememberwhat just came out.
That was,

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12 (51:55):
Yeah, it's, well, I think so.
For,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (51:58):
one more thing I have to say before
you say anything else, the soulretrieval part.
Okay.
So the Lost Souls of Tara, butalso Tia Ma and Tara, they were
goddesses that were exploded.
So all of their parts are strewnall over the place, and this has
happened to many other beingswhere they were planetary.
Conscious bodies that wereexploded.

(52:20):
So the soul retrieval goes justbeyond human souls.
We're actually retrieving partsof, of embodiments of the holy
mother and holy Father that weredestroyed in galactic battles.
So that is why I feel like thesoul retrieval, because there
are bits of, of the m inside alot of us.
So I think that's somethingthat's happening when I'm doing

(52:40):
this work too, is I'm helping,helping them come back into
wholeness.
But it goes beyond thisdimension and beyond this
timeline into galactic battlesthat a lot of us were a part of
and just don't remember.
So it's just really cool how,because this, they just showed
me this like a, I saw Tia ma,this giant dragon get exploded

(53:03):
into pieces and I'm like, whatis happening?
And I, it was Mar Duke and heexploded her with a lightning
bolt like Zeus.
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325 (53:15):
I mean from my perspective, and
I've listened to a lot of, a lotof people talk about our ancient
history and their differenttheories and different
perspectives on how we came tobe, where we're at today,
what's, what's happening on amultidimensional level.
Like some of the things that youwere, that you were talking
about, there's potentially manydifferent ways and different

(53:41):
kinds of language that's usedto,

renee_1_07-18-2025_1133 (53:42):
Explain the same thing.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (53:44):
The same, the same sorts of, of
processes and on, you know, ondifferent

renee_1_07-18-2025_1133 (53:49):
Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (53:50):
Uh, like the, the first thing that
kind of clicked was I've heard,Rudolph Steiner in his work, he
didn't believe in and like thathumans were made, made by
extraterrestrials.
His belief, and, and kind inparaphrasing this, was that like
humans descended from, like, wematerialized from a higher

(54:11):
dimensional plane of Earth.
So it's not like we were broughthere, but we were, we just kind
of materialized here.
And that the ascension is, is USdematerializing again, back up
to that higher, that higheroctave or

renee_1_07-18-2025_11330 (54:25):
That's that translocation that I was
talking about.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12 (54:29):
Yeah.
So on a, a basic level of, ofhow he perceived, like how
humanity became incarnate onearth and what you shared there.
There's some overlap and, and Ithink that's to, to anybody
who's listening and who haslistened to a lot of this sort
of material, it's like younotice like on one hand, like

(54:52):
there's no way for me to, toconfirm or deny I haven't had
the, the download.
So it's like I'm, I'm justlistening as, just as an
observer and just taking it in.
And it's, it's interesting thatthere is overlap between what
you just told me, which I've,I've heard aspects of that
before.
I've heard it explained insimilar ways, but there, there

(55:17):
is overlap in different systems,in different ways of

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (55:20):
Hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12332 (55:21):
On some level, I feel like there is
a lot of truth in that.
Uh, on a, on a conscious likemind level, I'm just kind of
drilling.
I'm like, I kind of don'tconsciously understand like

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (55:33):
What I just said.
We'll have to, we should doanother video where I explain
all of that like more in depthbecause it's important for
people to understand thethreefold founder flame.
'cause that is how we activateour Christo light body.
That is how we activate the 12 DKund Dore within ourselves.
So that is the or angelic humanblueprint that we are trying to

(55:55):
ascend into that all the Indigosand star seeds hold the
blueprint for.
So we have the ability to ascendinto something that is
unfathomable for us.
And that is, that's what'shappening is this d we're
upgrading our DNA andremembering that those flames
within us, the Holy Trinity.
So it is information that isn'tas widely shared.

(56:16):
It is something that I had neverheard about until I started
getting these visions.
And then I found some, someteachers who do teach about
these topics.
And, um, one is her name's I, IShyana Dean, and she writes all
about the Emerald Covenant, allof the races that created
humanity, where we came from,like all of this stuff.

(56:38):
And then there's another onenamed Lisa Renee.
Lisa Renee.
I don't agree with everythingshe teaches, but not every
teacher is gonna teach thethings that, you know, you have
to pick what resonates with you.
She teaches that serpents areevil and all the lunar goddesses
are evil.
And I don't agree with that.
I think that the, there arelunar goddesses that were

(56:58):
chained to the moon and had todo things against their will.
That's what I, that's it startedthe breeder program.
Essentially when TMA wasdestroyed, it started the forced
breeder program with divinefeminines, which is, has been
occurring for millennia.
It's still occurring today to usuntil you wake up and you're
able to break free from that.

(57:19):
But it's, it's just, yeah, it'san important topic because it is
affecting many people in manyways.
There are many agendas occurringall around us that we aren't
even aware of because you'reasleep when it's happening.
And it's, it's interesting.
So there's a lot, but that stuffgets a little darker.
It's a little darker, you know?

(57:40):
And that's the more the, theside of the galactic battles and
the warfare that's beenhappening.
And those aren't things manypeople talk about either.
They say.
Oh, in the higher realms, warsnever happen.
Or after five D, there's no morewar.
That is not true.
It's actually like 11, likeafter 11 D that's kind of when

(58:01):
that stuff stops.
There are beings between 3D and11 D that that do want power and
do wanna fight you.
And you know, they're not allbenevolent.
There's just so muchmisconception about fifth
dimensional energy and stuff.
Like for us to gain that accessto that dimension, we have to be

(58:21):
pure and open up our hearts andbe connected to serving.
But when you're already thatlevel of dimension, let's say,
let's say you're a 10thdimensional being, one day you
get a hair up your ass andyou're like, you know what?
I wanna overtake this planet.
I'm gonna betray everyone.
That's just what happened backthen.
PE beings would decide theywanted more power, so.

(58:44):
That perfection or that perfectstate that people think exists.
It, it's, it's really only in 12D and higher.
And 12 D is where the God worldsbegin.
And that's where form doesn'teven have a form anymore.
They're just shape shiftingsheets of light.
They don't even have bodies.
So there's just a lot ofmisconception on the, on TikTok.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12 (59:07):
Well, yeah, I would say prob probably
any,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (59:10):
Any channel.
Yeah, YouTube, Facebook,Instagram.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12 (59:14):
like, I mean, even like the things
like the, the, your Rancha bookand

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (59:20):
Oh, I never read that.
Uh.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325 (59:22):
I mean, it's there, there's gonna
be overlap with what you, whatyou just shared with the Rancha
book.
Not all of it, but there is someoverlap there.
And I'm definitely not a, anexpert or scholar on the your
rancha material in any way.
But I'm, I'm familiar with itenough to, to be able to pick up
on some f some similar threads,you know?

(59:45):
And, and while, while there ispotentially a lot of information
that, that a very deep rabbithole that people could, could go
down, like my personal belief isthat there are many, like, we're
all on our own individualjourneys.
And that there, there are manyways to, to reach the top of the

(01:00:07):
mountain.
There's, there's many paths tothe, to the top of the mountain
and to, to get to that placewhere we become a whole and
connected and unified withsource.
I think about, I I, I thinkabout, about people like Jesus
and, and different spiritualteachers.
You know, their teachings, theirteachings were, were remarkably

(01:00:30):
simple.
Like particularly Jesus and the

renee_1_07-18-2025_1133 (01:00:33):
Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123 (01:00:34):
like love, love their neighbors.
Love thyself, love thy Godforgiven.
You should be forgiven.
if you really distill down whatthey were saying, was very, very

renee_1_07-18-2025_1133 (01:00:49):
Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2 (01:00:50):
immediately actionable.
Like, if you did those things,your life would change.
If you start being, if you startloving all your neighbors and
start living with a, a lovingheart, like it, it, it'll change
your life immediately.
And so like, contrasting thatto, of the information, this is

(01:01:10):
just me personally, some of thereally information dense
teachings.
I'm like, yes, there issomething there.
And, and I do believe that thereare people who, whom really
resonate with

renee_1_07-18-2025_1133 (01:01:22):
Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (01:01:23):
and that that is a way for them to
help, to expand and to, tocontinue on their journey and
to.
To, to progress.
And, and I, I also think there,there's a subset of, souls and
individuals, maybe like myselfwhere simplicity and just like,
maybe that stuff is, maybe thatstuff is true.
Maybe it's not.

(01:01:44):
Do I, on one level, do I reallycare?
Like if I, if I'm doing the, thethings that are, that are
improving my life,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (01:01:51):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (01:01:52):
and I'm having a positive impact

renee_1_07-18-2025_11330 (01:01:54):
that's why we've all, we've all came
here to do something different.
'Cause I came here to spread thehistory and the records and to
let people know where we reallycame from.
Because I see what you're, whereyou're coming from.
But I also don't believe thatbuying into fake paradigms and
false programming is gonna helpus get there either because I
know that there are soul trapsthat occur that can keep your

(01:02:16):
soul in reincarnation loops.
And so that's kind of where I'mcoming at with it, is to help
people.
They don't have to believe me.
They don't have to believe whatI'm saying.
My truth is my truth.
But I know what the yellow himshowed me, and I know.
That it was for a reason andthat they are prodding me to
tell, to speak this truth andthat the people who need to hear
it will hear it.

(01:02:37):
And the people who are connectedto the covenant of Palor, to the
fall of Tara, to the fall oftma, it does affect their lives
now.
It affected my life now in avery negative way.
And if I hadn't learned thisinformation, I would still not,
I wouldn't be who I am rightnow.
So for the women and the divinefeminines who are trapped in

(01:02:57):
that, that breeding program ortheir wombs are infiltrated,
like there's a lot of darkenergy that is occurring that if
we're not aware of, it's hard toembody because you're in pain,
because you're suffering,because you feel, you don't feel
good enough.
You have issues with self love.

(01:03:18):
The people who are stuck in thedarkest, deepest depths of hell.
They need to understand why theyare there and how it happened
and how to reclaim theirsovereignty.
Because like for me, I have hada lifetime of trauma, like the
most awful things, anything,any, anything that could happen
to someone has happened to me.
So I think I'm more speaking tothose people who are going

(01:03:39):
through that dark shit, who arebeing preyed upon by
narcissists, who have beensexually assaulted, who are
stuck in addiction, who arestuck in self-hatred, who are
stuck in denial of their divinefeminine power and reminding
them who they are and why thesethings have happened because of
who you are.
They've happened because of whoyou are.
And so that, that remembrance,that like, oh yeah, this is who

(01:04:04):
the fuck I am.
These things don't have tohappen to me.
I can rewrite my timeline.
I can reclaim myself.
I can say no more.
And you're no longer a victimbecause our victim, we may be
being victimized, but it is sosimple for us to unplug from
that.
It's so simple because we'reallowing those things to
continue to happen.
You aren't even aware that youallowed it.

(01:04:25):
It's a, it's just this soulcycle, this, this cycle.
A lot of women are stuck inwhere they're being preyed upon
by someone.
And this information just, ithelped me reclaim myself and
like those parts of myself, andI was able to finally break free
from addiction, fromnarcissistic abuse, from s*cidal

(01:04:46):
ideation.
Like so many things I've healedwithin myself by learning this
information because it justhelped me see myself in a
different light.
You know what I mean?
I don't know if that made sense.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12 (01:04:59):
Yeah.
A, a, Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (01:05:02):
it's more to like the wounded women,
I guess, like, you know, and ifit doesn't resonate.
With, if it doesn't resonate,then it may not be a timeline
you're associated with.
You could have came fromsomewhere else, for real.
'cause we all have differenttimelines that, different
embodiments, differentexperiences.
Not every person is going to beresonant with the same story,

(01:05:24):
but I know the right people willhear it.
And maybe those are the peopleI'm supposed to work with, you
know?

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2 (01:05:31):
absolutely.
And and I, I appreciate yousharing and, and I, I believe
that too.
And, in, in large part, it comesdown to, as you said, like your
perception, like the, thevictimhood

renee_1_07-18-2025_1133 (01:05:40):
Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1 (01:05:41):
Things are gonna happen to us in our
lives.
Things are gonna happen, andthey've happened there is, like
in this physical life, I can'tgo back to being five years old
and changing something thathappened.
But what I do have control overand what we all have control
over in this moment is how weperceive the things that
happened

renee_1_07-18-2025_1133 (01:06:01):
Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (01:06:02):
and we have the ability to say
either, oh, that broke me, orthat, you know, that did X, y,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (01:06:11):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12332 (01:06:11):
to me.
Or maybe on a deeper level Ineeded that to, to learn a
specific lesson so that I couldbe stronger or have more
knowledge or, or do any othernumber of things.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (01:06:23):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12 (01:06:24):
maybe is, is it possible that on a
deeper level, I.
unconsciously, on a soul levelthat I agreed to have these,
these experiences in my life andto, to go through these trials
and challenges in order to bewho I am today and, and make a
positive impact on the world.

renee_1_07-18-2025_1133 (01:06:39):
Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1 (01:06:40):
either way you choose to look at it,
that thing that happened when Iwas five years old, it happened,
but, but the, the meaning thatI, that I choose to assign to
that is totally under mycontrol.
And, and this, and the same goeswith with, with a lot of what
you shared.
And it's going, I'm gonna, I'mgonna sit with this for a while

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (01:07:00):
Yeah, because there, because I see
what you're saying, but I alsodon't agree that could apply to
exploding an entire planet ofmillions of beings.
I don't think they agreed tothat.
That was like a galactic attack.
And I don't think every soulthat was there, like, I just
feel like sometimes we, we dogaslight real situations that

(01:07:22):
happen when we use that, thatkind of phrasing because there
actually has been like trueattacks on beings and, and it's
not something that was supposedto happen, like the fallen
phantom matrix was not supposedto be here.
But we also do create the thingswe experience as well.

(01:07:43):
Like, and you can choose tocontinue those things to bother
you in this reality.
You can choose to allow thosethings.
It's like you become aware of itand you're able to pull yourself
out of it, is kind of what itis.
But that doesn't mean I don'tthink everything is a soul
contract.
I don't, I don't think everysingle thing is a soul contract

(01:08:03):
or every single thing issomething we agreed to.
I think it's more like 70%, 30%,and the other 30% are actual.
There are galactic alliances ofnegative beings that are, that
wanna harvest you at the sametime.
So we'll have to agree todisagree there because

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_12332 (01:08:21):
Oh yeah.
And, and I am, I, I totallyunderstand.
I, I, I've, I've put, I'vecreated a.
Content ar around that idea andput it out there.
And I've, I've received yeah,pushback on it.
And, and I, I totally respecteverybody's beliefs and,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (01:08:36):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (01:08:37):
you know, desire or, you know,
everybody's beliefs.
We're all entitled to, tobelieve and perceive the world
and our reality way we want.
And

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (01:08:46):
Yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (01:08:47):
you know, that's, that's, that's
totally cool.
We're on, we're all on our own

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (01:08:50):
I think some of us just do
different work and we've seendifferent things.
'cause I like as my, with mywork as of grid working, I've
seen the siphoning and theharvesting and the soles that
are stuck in the grids andthat's not something they agreed
to.
They didn't agree to being stuckand siphoned in the, in the
grid.
So I think there are some thingswe agree to and some things we
don't agree to.

(01:09:11):
Sometimes there are beings thatjust wanna harm you and
sometimes it's a soul contractand something you subconsciously
agreed to.
I think it's kind of both.
It depends on what is going on,but from what they have shown
me, we've been being trackedand, and harvested and attacked
for millions upon millions ofyears from galaxy to galaxy,
from the 11th dimension down tothis one.

(01:09:33):
And that is something theguardians are trying to heal.
Um, so yeah, I hope you'll lookinto it more and'cause this, it
is a, it is a paradigm shift.
Like, and I'm not trying tochange your paradigm or
anything, I just want people tobe aware that there have been
gal, there is galactic warfarethat has occurred and there's
been mass occurring of galacticangelic humans for a long time.

(01:09:57):
And that is not a good thing.
And it's, it's as above, sobelow the, the same harvesting
that occurred then is, isoccurring now in Gaza.
It's occurring now in Ukraine.
It's occurring now and all thesedifferent, you know, Sudan and
it's, it's an energy siphoningthat occurs and that is why g

(01:10:20):
happens.
So, yeah, I will, will hopepeople will look into like loose
harvesting'cause it is a realthing.
And there are some things wecan't control.
Like someone who's in Gaza, wecan't tell them you're creating
the situation for yourself.
You allowed yourself to bevictimized when their entire
civilization is gen is beingg*ocided.

(01:10:43):
I don't think they agreed tothat.
I think they're being harvested.
So there's just those twodiffering things, like there's
an evil side and then there'syou creating the own evil in
your life.
It's sometimes you, sometimesnot.
So that's how I feel.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (01:11:00):
You shared the, the experiences that
you've had and the, theinformation that you've been
given and, and your perspective.
I really appreciate yourwillingness to, to share
something that I know a

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (01:11:12):
One more thing.
I gotta say one more thing.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (01:11:14):
are potentially, potentially hanging
onto and, and holding back on.
So, so I, I respect that a lot.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (01:11:20):
The other thing too, I do believe
the bad things that happen tous, we can grow from.
That's another thing.
Even if I do believe sometimesthere are negative nefarious,
iconic, demonic entities thatwanna harvest you.
You can also choose to reprogramyour life.
Unplug from that, and you canlearn a lesson from it.

(01:11:41):
Learn better boundaries.
Learn your power, because when Ilearned my sovereignty and my
power, negative, iconic energystopped messing with me.
I am not gonna say that I've nevnot had like any, any kind of
negative energy since then, butit's about, been about six years
since I've had like a truly likescary experience happen to me.

(01:12:02):
And before that it was, since Iwas a small child, I would have
negative entities.
So I, it made me turn away frommy powers for a long time
because I thought everything wasscary and that being a psychic
was scary and that if I was apsychic it was just gonna
attract scary things.
'cause I didn't know what washappening.
But I really do believe thatevery, like, all the bad things

(01:12:24):
that have happened to me did getme to where I am today.
And they have taught me lessonsand I have grown and I am
thankful for those things.
But I also, there are some partsof history that I see
differently.
So that's just, it's kind of,I'm kind of in between, you
know, like it just depends andit's all about what we grow,

(01:12:45):
what we learn from what we gothrough, and how.
I try not to look at myself as avictim, even though I'm talking
about galactic history and soulsiphoning and, you know, all of
these things.
They did happen.
They, it did happen.
And I can choose to unplug fromthat matrix.
I can choose to leave this, thatsoul harvesting cycle, you, it's

(01:13:09):
that simple.
You can just be like, no more.
I don't wanna do it anymore, andI'm done.
And it stops.
It's that simple.
So it's like, it's like weforget that we have that power
and then they program us andmind control us, and so we're
subconsciously consenting to it.
We're subconsciously consentingto shit because we're.

(01:13:31):
We're sick, we're we're full ofantidepressants or we're
overstimulated.
We're all impoverished and ourbrains and our consciousness
aren't functioning the way theyshould.
So we, things are happening tous that we don't even say
anything about.
'cause people are so lost intheir own little world.
They're unaware of all thethings that are going on.
If people would just say, no,the world would be a different

(01:13:55):
place.
It's really that simple to justto stop these things.
So I don't wanna put fear intopeople, I just want them to be
aware of our history and likewhy the world is the way it is.
But we do have power to say, no.
We do have power to stop thesethings.
We do have power to unplug fromthose agendas.
It doesn't have to keephappening.

(01:14:16):
It's all up to you inremembering who you are and, and
saying, no.
It's that freaking simple.
I wish.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1233 (01:14:24):
And to that, the fact that we, we do
have the power and we do havethat ability to, that we do
agree.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (01:14:30):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1 (01:14:31):
Renee, thank you very much for, for
sharing your story and for, forsharing so much, uh, so much
information and, and

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (01:14:37):
so I am on TikTok as the Galactic
Ambassador, 3 6 9.
And you guys can just message methere or you can send me an
email.
'cause right now my link tree isdown'cause I've been in
retirement.
My email is renee, R-E-N-E-ESlay, SLAY four four at gmail.

(01:15:01):
And just email me and we'llfigure it out.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325 (01:15:04):
I will leave links to those in the
description below.
Uh, thank you all for your timeand yeah, we'll until next time,
maybe we'll have to do thisagain, uh, sometime in the
future.
And, you know, and continue theconversation.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (01:15:17):
if we do, we should definitely, I
wanna talk about like all thegalactic battles and like where
they happen.
I feel like I should just writea cosmic history book or
something.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123 (01:15:29):
Hey.
Maybe May.
Yeah, maybe that's, maybe thatshould be on your to-do list or,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (01:15:33):
My million things already there.
Okay.
Thank you.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_1 (01:15:38):
You're welcome.
All right.
Take care everyone.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303 (01:15:39):
Bye.

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