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jessica-_1_06-07-2025_0905 (00:00):
what
most people don't realize is
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that your past lives are thereto give you guidance.
So it's almost like your pastself are teaching your current
self either what to do or whatnot to do.
One time my spirit guides saidto me, they're like, you're
supposed to make people lessafraid of death, you're also
supposed to make people lessafraid to live.
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We are also in control of ourtimelines.
They're trying to tell me,they're telling me now that if
we are really choosing to liveon a fear-based timeline, we'll
attract more of that energy.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025 (00:36):
Jessica,
if I were to meet you at a
neighborhood barbecue and Iasked you what you did, how
would you respond?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534 (00:46):
I
would say that I, um, I talk to
a lot of invisible friends,
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_11053 (00:55):
I.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090 (00:56):
which
usually does get people's, uh,
curiosity peaked for sure.
So, but yeah, I deal with thespirit realm.
I am a, uh, hypnotherapist, um,who specializes in past life
regression.
I also am a channeler, um, thatfocuses mostly on a caic record
readings, and I do reiki and um,right now I'm also trying to do
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development and mediumship.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_11 (01:24):
Okay.
You know, I've had a lot ofconversations with people who
are in your line of work and,and do channeling, mediumship,
uh, past life regression,hypnotherapy, things like that.
And I always find it fascinatinghow each individual person.
Takes all those differentmodalities that they've learned
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and find a way to combine itinto one unique sort of
offering.
So I suppose, what is yourfavorite thing to do.
So if somebody, if somebodyreaches out to you and is
looking for, for somebody tohelp them, like what are the
kinds of situations or cases orclients that you get the most
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excited to work with?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_09053 (02:13):
Uh,
yes.
Yeah.
So we do like to put them alltogether like a recipe, I would
say.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_11 (02:18):
Yeah.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090 (02:19):
thing
that I've seen to be.
The thing that I do the most inthe sessions I'd like to offer
the most would be past liferegression.
And the reason I say this isbecause a lot of people, when I
do channeling for them, they'relike, wow, that's amazing.
I wish I could do that.
I say to them, you can, and thebest way for me to get them to
do that is through past liferegression.
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not only are they actuallygetting to go back and see their
past lives, but they're actuallygetting to understand what
channeling is as well.
after they come out of asession, I'm like, look, you
just did what I did and you cankeep on doing it.
So if I can help someone likeopen up that communication with
channeling, I mean, then theycan just start to get all their
guidance on their own.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_1 (03:04):
That's
super interesting.
I, I have never really thoughtof that and I.
On some level, I intuitivelyunderstood that that was
happening, but I'd neverconsidered using a past life
regression as a gateway to helpdemonstrate for people that they
have the capacity to usechanneling to, to help
themselves.
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I believe in, you know, prettymuch everybody who does this
understands that we all have theability to.
Utilize these gifts and theseextra sensory perceptions and
these psychic abilities, ev,everybody's got them.
But it's cool that you found away to, to help people realize
that themselves and have atangible experience of that so
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that they can, you know, kind ofspark that or open up that door
for them so they can continue,they can continue to do that
work and explore that on theirown time.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090 (03:55):
Yeah,
I think it's the fastest way to,
to open up your third eye andget more intuitive knowledge for
sure.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110 (04:03):
what
got you into doing past life
regression, uh, hypnosis and,and offering these sessions?
Uh, I, I think it's alwaysfascinating to find out like how
somebody comes to the pointwhere they're not only doing it
themselves, but offering it forother people and facilitating
these experiences for, forothers.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090 (04:23):
Yeah,
it is quite a unique career,
isn't it?
don't have like a brochure onit, like during career day of
school.
Do they?
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_11 (04:30):
Yeah,
definitely not.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090 (04:31):
gonna
be the first one to make one.
Um, I didn't expect to do this,I don't think most of us do, but
you know, we're all on ourspiritual journeys and like when
you follow the breadcrumbs, itjust kind of leads you to where
you're supposed to be.
So, I mean, I've, I've had along spiritual journey, but what
actually got me into past liferegression is I was, um, doing
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training in, uh, channeling anda kasic record ratings, I was
asking the Kasic records like,you know, what should I be doing
in this lifetime?
Like, what is my purpose?
the answer I got wasn't what Iwas expecting.
I was really kind of blown awayby it.
Um, but you know.
Also not.
So I was in there in meditationand I was getting certain
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messages, and the first one Igot is, um, I'm supposed to make
people less afraid of death.
And I'm like, oh, okay, that's,that sounds pretty big.
And they're like, take a deepbreath, you can do this.
And I'm asking like, how can Imake people less afraid of
death?
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And they would not gimme theanswer.
And they said, that's for you tofind.
So I sat with it for a while.
Um, I was not thinking aboutpast life regression.
What I was thinking about isreiki, which is what I was
already doing, and like going tonursing homes and like helping
people that are,
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110 (05:54):
Hmm.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_09053 (05:54):
you
know, about to cross over.
And I was getting like thumbs upfrom the spirit world, but
they're like, but keep going,keep going.
I'm like, I don't know.
I don't know.
But with time, um, I would sayI.
I do remember my friend gave methis recording about like
quantum jumping, and also therewas something about past life
regression in there.
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do remember trying the recordingand getting like snippets of
past lives and I thought thatwas really cool, it didn't
really hook into me right away.
But then I started to read bookslike, uh, like Mi Michael Newton
and Dr.
Brian, we that have all thosegreat books about past life
regressions.
And then like the little bellwent off in my head I'm like,
oh.
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so then I'm like, I gotta dothis.
Um, but the thing is I wanted toget trained in past life
regression, and I was living inAsia at the time and I was
looking everywhere where I was.
I was in Singapore, there was notraining in past life
regression.
like, what am I gonna do?
So I was meditating on it aswell and, uh, asking for more
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guidance and I was getting othermessages about like, you need to
go to Los Angeles.
I'm like, oh, okay.
That's interesting.
Am I really gonna uproot my lifeand just go to Los Angeles?
And they're like, well, getready to.
So I let that sit for a whileand they were also giving me
messages.
Like you have more.
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Um, they were telling me you'realso supposed to go to Hollywood
to help balance out thedarkness.
I'm like, that sounds reallyintense as well.
I'm like, well, can you give itto me in smaller chunks?
But anyways, I did actuallyuproot my life.
I did move to Los Angeles.
I did find someone to trainwith, um, to be a hypnotherapist
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that specializes in past liferegression.
I am currently, it seems like,helping out some people in
Hollywood.
You know, tried to balance outthe darkness of Hollywood.
So here I am following what Ilearned from the Akashic
records.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110 (08:01):
Man,
that is a heavy lift.
I lived in Southern Californiafor a period of.
Time and Southern California isamazing and it's, you know,
attracts so many people.
There's, you know, anything youcould ever want to do, you can
find access to there.
Uh, very diverse.
And just LA itself is, it's anincredible place, but the, the
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energy there is super intenseand I got to the point where I
didn't even like driving throughla I just like.
Is there, there's just a lot ofenergy there.
So how do you manage and how doyou maintain a, a grounded and
centered life such that you canhave a positive impact on your
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clients, and so that you canshow up in a way that's that's
grounded and clear for them.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_09053 (08:54):
Mm,
yes.
I have to go to the beach quiteoften and just really plant my
feet in the sand.
Um, but in general, yes, you areabsolutely right.
There is a lot of energy here,but there are also a lot of
beautiful.
Individuals, uh, with a mission.
And I really appreciate that.
So when I'm connecting withthose people here, it gives me a
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lot of, um, energy andinspiration.
And again, it just makes me feellike I'm not alone.
I mean, there is quite a bigspiritual community here.
I think that we are pulled tothis area'cause this area really
needs it.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_11053 (09:30):
So
when you're talking about
Akashic record readings, howwould you describe the Akashic
records?
Like how, how would you definethat?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090 (09:38):
Yeah,
I know mine, it does feel a
little bit different foreveryone.
I know like the general, uh,term people would say is like,
it's a cosmic database of, um.
Our lives, like, uh, who we werein the past, who we are now, and
I would say potential futures.
Some people just say futures,but I say potential futures
because I really believe that wehave free will.
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We might have like certainlessons that we're meant to
learn, but I feel like we havedifferent paths to get there.
But I mean, you can access theAkesha record through
channeling, which is to me isjust like meditation, but you're
like trying to tune into acertain, um.
Brainwave, which is basicallythe same one that you can feel
like when you're in hypnosis.
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And for me, when I go in there,it's just like a, a place of
love.
It's, it feel like all thebeautiful souls are greeting me
and for me it just feels like,um, I go to them for guidance.
you can go to them, you can getpast life information, you can
get more information about likewho you are now.
But in general, they're justreally trying to help us with
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our purpose, our mission.
And I will say like some peoplethink you can go in there and
ask anything, but there'ssometimes there's only so much
information you're allowed toknow at this time.
You can't, you can't know thelottery numbers I asked.
I didn't win the lottery yet.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_11053 (10:59):
So
when somebody comes to you for a
past life regression or anAkashic records reading, what
are some typical themes and, youknow, things that you see over
and over again?
Different reasons people arecoming to you that are, that are
fairly common.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090 (11:12):
Yeah,
it seems like most people are
coming, uh, to find out whattheir purpose is.
That seems to be the questionthat's most asked, of course.
Um, another theme is they wannaknow about love.
Will they find love or maybesomething about their love
interest.
they come with these reallyprofound questions and at the
end they try to sneak in oneabout their love life, which is
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fine.
I think it's cute.
Um.
Yeah, but mostly it seems to bebased around purpose or just,
um, yeah, the bigger questionslike why Yeah, why am I here?
What am I supposed to be doing?
Um,'cause a lot of people arelike, think there has to be more
to life and there can't be.
Yeah.
I really appreciate those kindof questions and insights that
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we get, um, for past liferegression as well.
It's really can be connected toyour purpose too.
When you do a past liferegression, which I know you
have done quite a few, right?
It, what most people don'trealize is that your past lives
are there to give you guidance.
For what's currently going onnow.
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So it's almost like your pastself are teaching your current
self either like what to do orwhat not to do.
They either be your cheerleadersand like, keep going, keep
going.
Or maybe like, stop reassess,maybe pivot.
Don't do what you did in thispast life.
So yeah, it's, it's likeconnecting.
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Uh.
different versions of ourself toour current self.
Like I feel like our past livesare like our support team and
our spirit guide, so I'm justtrying to connect people to our
spiritual support system.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_1105 (12:59):
You
know, you mentioned when we last
spoke that you do in betweenlife readings.
Like, what does that entail?
I, I know often when doing a, apast life regression, there,
there are situations where youpotentially regress to that
space in between lives.
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I know that happens, but itsounds like you're doing that in
a very intentional way and I'mcurious about, about that.
'cause that's a little bit di alittle bit of a different angle
that many people don't seem totake.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090 (13:34):
Yeah,
so Dr.
Um, Dr.
Michael Newton has a book, um, Ithink it, yeah, life Between
Lives.
He does, um, life Between LifeSessions, so I do something
similar to him.
I call it Life Beyond Lives,just because I don't follow his
exact techniques, but that is anextension of a past life
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regression.
So, um, I do start off by takingyou into a past life and then as
you leave that life, we explorethe afterlife, which is just
really amazing place ofunconditional love.
as you like, leave your body andyou, you will probably even get
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this in a past life regression,like you come outta your body,
you leave it behind.
You're usually greeted by likeyour spiritual support team.
We'll say that, or someancestors.
There is usually some type oflife review.
Um, associated with this, andthat is very fascinating because
it's really a place ofnon-judgment, which is a little
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bit different than what mostpeople think.
Um, you kind of just, uh, yeah,you review your life, things
that you could have donedifferently or things that
you're really proud of, andthen, um, then you start to
assess what you wanna do in yournext incarnation.
So in the session, you mightlike to look into different
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bodies and different lives andtry to choose what you want to
experience.
You can, uh, talk about certainlessons you wanna learn, like if
you had like a past life andsomething that you wanna redo,
we'll say that.
Um, you can redo it again inthis next life.
And another version of yourself.
Um, which is cool.
It's kind of cool to like clickon like, you're like choosing
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your avatar for the next life.
You can kinda like, like if it'son a computer screen, you just
kind of click on the person andsee like, what kind of life
would they have and would Ilearn my lessons.
But beyond that, like you canalso travel with your spirit
team to like different realms.
So this is also a place of restand rejuvenation.
So, and you, you don't, you justfeel so light, like you don't
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have the density of the body andyou're just.
Surrounded by so much love andin this, in this state, um,
between lives, you're just likemerging.
I don't know, I, I feel likeeveryone will see it a little
bit differently, but usuallyyou're just merging with source
and you're merging with othersouls and you're sharing
information, um, and you'retaking the information that
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you've learned from yourprevious life and it, and you're
like depositing it into thecollective consciousness.
I would say some people will seeit differently.
I usually see it on, a lot ofclients see it as like the tree
of life.
Um, so I feel like we're likeattaching and we're like
depositing our information andlike we're all connected and we
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can just into each other'sinformation, really makes you
just feel so expansive and thenyou could just journey into the
afterlife.
You kind of can create thisworld that you.
Never thought existed, but canexist.
And it's just a really, a placeof connection of all the souls.
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It's like this beautiful,emerging experience.
And, don't know, I feel likeit's a vacation sometimes.
I have, I trade a obsessionswith other hypnotherapist and
I'm like, take me on vacation.
Yeah.
And then you choose, um, you,you can talk with your soul
family.
Which is usually, I would say, Idon't know, five to 12 different
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souls that you usuallyreincarnate with.
And um, funny thing is, I'mlaughing because the spirit
realm is actually quitehilarious.
So sometimes you have like this.
meeting with your spirit teamand soul family and you're just
joking around with them andsometimes like, who are we gonna
be next time?
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It's almost like you're writinga script, I guess, for your next
lifetime, and you're gettinglike this different,
information, like how you'regonna build the cast of
characters and who's gonna playwhich role each time.
It's really funny.
So yeah, I really recommend thelife between Life session it is.
I don't, you don't know whereit's gonna go, but it always has
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some, some meaning to it.
It's, it's, it's reallybeautiful.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110 (18:03):
I've
created quite a bit of content
around reincarnation and talkingabout the, the journey that we
go on after we leave the body.
The.
Life review and all the thingsthat you described, and often in
the comments of these videosthat I put out, people will say,
my life has been so hard.
Why would I have ever chosenthis?
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If I have the choice, I'm nevercoming back.
And because I've had so muchexperience and.
Have explored these spacesmyself.
I, I empathize with that and Isay, yeah, and, you know, that's
a wonderful place to be, butit's not a space of growth.
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Like you don't add anyadditional experience.
You're, you're able to, like yousaid, it's a restful space, but
that's not the space where youcan really add new skills or add
new lessons.
So what would you say tosomebody who.
Who was questioning, why onearth would I have come here?
Why would I have chosen this?
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Like I, there's no way that Iwould, would have ever chosen to
do what I'm doing now.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_0905 (19:13):
Even
I feel that way sometimes.
Yeah.
Life is a, it is a test, isn'tit?
But it's like what you said itis just for so soul growth and
sometimes when we're in thisplace, in this 3D reality, we
don't understand it.
why I think it's really helpfulto have like past life
regressions or life betweenlives.
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'cause you really do get adifferent view on things.
Yeah, but I mean, I also jokeabout it all the time.
I.
Yeah, it is a challenge, isn'tit?
But there's beautiful moments toit too.
I hope everyone can find thosebeautiful moments.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534 (19:52):
I
agree 100% and when it comes to
doing past life regression andthis sort of work.
How much is too much?
Uh, I've kind of crossed thatline from time to time where I
was really deep into doing a lotof past life regression
meditations to the point whereit felt like I became somewhat
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ungrounded and.
Uh, yeah, ungrounded is probablyjust the best way to put it.
I was having these reallyincredible out-of-body
experiences visiting all thesepast lives, and I became
somewhat disconnected from mycurrent reality to the point
where initially when I starteddoing it, it felt like it was
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helpful and it was helping megain a new perspective and a new
way to look at life.
Until I tried to maintain thatperspective for too long and
then it became
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_09053 (20:49):
Hmm
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_1 (20:49):
almost
detri detrimental.
So I'm curious as to yourthoughts around that.
What's, uh, how much is toomuch?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090 (20:57):
Yeah.
I think this can be applied tolike any spiritual practice, but
were you doing them by yourselfor with someone that was guiding
you?
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_11053 (21:06):
It
was a self-guided,
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090 (21:07):
Okay.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_1105 (21:08):
um.
A Dr.
Brian Weiss video where he does,it's on YouTube.
Anybody could find it.
He does a, a guided selfmeditation and, and takes you
back and it, it has worked forme every single time that I've
done it, even from the veryfirst time.
For whatever reason, I, I feellike I'm.
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I'm kind of open to that anyway,so it was, it was an easy thing
for me to do.
I know not everybody has thatexperience right off the bat,
but I've personally had a lot ofsuccess doing it that way.
Um, so yeah, that, that's myprimary experience with doing
past life regression Meditationsare, it's a self-induced, but
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I've also had a couple of QHHTsessions with different
practitioners and, and thosewere both.
Wonderful as well and it, and itwas really actually nice to have
somebody there to facilitate andlead the experience.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_0 (22:02):
Mm-hmm.
Okay, good.
Uh, just wanted to know before Ianswered.
I also have a guided, um, pastlife regression online
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110 (22:09):
Hmm.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534 (22:10):
I
do wanna make it accessible for
everyone.
Um, but to go back, to answeryour question, um, I would say.
I wouldn't do multiple past liferegressions in a row.
I really think that we need aintegration period, and I'm
bringing that up also because,or the reason I asked you is
because you know, when you'reworking with another past life,
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regressionist, I feel like theintegration is a little bit more
solid than if you're doing it onyour own.
even.
if you're working with someone,I mean, I think even like with
like plant medicine andeverything, I think like you
need an integration period formost spiritual practices.
There's some people that are sohungry and exciting, excited,
you know, for more and more andmore.
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But like take the breadcrumbsthat you got, like, you know,
let them digest.
Try to put into practice whatyou've just learned before you
go into the next level.
Like we can't just keep jumpingto grade, to grade to grade.
Like it takes time.
So, I mean, I've also had timesin my life where I thought I was
a little bit out of control.
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but that was, that was notsomething I planned on.
I had like a, a spontaneouskundalini awakening that made me
feel really ungrounded.
So I just needed to calm downfor a bit, I would say.
Just try to do things that makeyou feel more grounded.
Um, sometimes you need to takeeven a little bit of a break
from spiritual practices'causewe are in this life and we chose
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it.
It's great to receive all thisinformation and experiences and
spirituality, but I feel likeeverything is a balance.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110 (23:47):
It's
interesting that you brought up
plant medicine because the, themore these conversations that I
have, the more I start toconnect the dots and I start to
realize like there's a lot ofoverlap between doing past life
regression.
Meditations and exploring thatspace and plant medicine often
in plant medicine ceremonies,you are taken back to past lives
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and aspects of yourself thatyou're unaware of, and the
integration aspect of that andtaking what you've learned and
putting it into practice before.
Trying to add a new tool to thetool belt is a, a vital key to.
And just progressing and growingand getting the most out of it.
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I, I think of it as like everytime you do one of these
spiritual practices, it's likeyou get a new lesson and unless
you're doing your homework andcompleting the lessons, it, it
doesn't make sense to learncalculus if you're not solid
with your times tables and, andyou can't add and subtract.
Uh, very well.
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Like you don't wanna continueto, to move on to more
complicated and more nuancedsubjects because if you don't
have that solid foundation,those other things aren't gonna
make sense and it's really notappropriate for you to delve
into that.
So I'm glad you you mentionedthat.
And yeah, for me, definitely theintegration aspect was pretty
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much non-existent until I got tothe point where I did a, a past
life regression meditation on mylunch break, sitting in my car
and I was at work and I,something really emotionally
heavy came up and I had to goback into work and I was like,
okay, I need to pump the breakson this.
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Like, this is not something thatI should just be doing
willy-nilly, and I, I need torespect this.
I need to respect this practice.
And, and after that, yeah, itwas, I like, I only do it now if
I feel, if I really feel calledto do it.
And I just trust that theuniverse is gonna give me, as
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you said, like the breadcrumbs,the things I need to know will
be provided for me when it'sappropriate for me to have that
experience or to enter thatspace.
So you also mentioned doingfuture life.
I don't know exactly how you,how you phrased it, but looking
at potential futures.
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So when is it appropriate forsomebody to try to access future
information and what are thenuances around that?
Because I feel like trying topredict the future is, can be
probably somewhat of a trickything to do.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_0 (26:35):
Mm-hmm.
So it's also done throughhypnosis.
It's called future progression.
So most people would come to meif they have like a big decision
to make.
Um, often it seems to be aroundcareer changes.
Um, so they just under hypnosiswill just try different
pathways, like some things thatthey might have in mind and
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sometimes things come up thatthey didn't even have in mind,
which is amazing.
Your subconscious might just.
Say like, Hey, maybe think aboutthis.
you just walk down differentpaths and you feel into it, like
different emotions come up,like, are you feeling happy
about this?
Is it inspiring?
What's the rest of your lifegonna look like?
So you're just kind of likestepping into the shoes of
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potential use and just trying toget that firsthand, uh,
experience.
when you come out of it, youjust have more of a.
General feeling of what feelsright.
I mean, it's not to say thatwhen you're in a future
progression, it's actuallypredicting your future.
It's just helping you feel intoyour future.
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Again, you have free will.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110 (27:42):
That
makes sense.
So it's, it's not predictive ina specific kind of way, but
it's, more kinda gives you ataste of the energetics of the
experience that you might haveif you make different choices.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_0905 (27:54):
Yes.
I wanna say a loose yes though,because sometimes people do
predict things that do happen,
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110 (28:03):
Hmm.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534 (28:03):
I
don't wanna promise anyone that.
But when it does happen, theywill call me and they're like,
no way.
I can't believe this happened.
This is what I saw, which isamazing.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_11053 (28:13):
In
speaking of integration and
given the fact that that's suchan important aspect of doing
this sort of work, I.
What kind of practices do youprescribe to people or do you
have any specific go-tointegration practices that maybe
you, you yourself, have workedwith or that you find your
clients ha have success with andfind to be particularly useful?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534 (28:37):
I
would say especially like after
past life regression.
Um, as you said, like when youdid it in, in the car before
work, I.
mean, I would definitely sayright afterwards clear your
schedule.
I mean, I would say messages arestill gonna be coming in the
rest of the day.
I really recommend that peoplejournal things so they don't
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forget.
I mean, I always record the pastlife regression so they can
listen back to it.
And when you listen back to therecording at different times,
even like a month later or ayear later, it's surprising many
more messages in there, how manymessages in there that you hear
differently in the future thatmight even pertain to that time.
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But in general, um, as we arekind of saying, like there are
certain lessons you can learn.
And if we're going to relatethis to like being at school and
like having them do theirhomework, like you can read as
much as you want, but until youput it into practice, you're not
having the full experience.
So integration is going todepend on what comes through the
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session.
So a little bit different foreveryone, and some people can
move faster than others, ingeneral, just try to apply it to
your everyday life.
I mean, the messages comethrough for a purpose.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_1105 (29:53):
You
mentioned that you were moving
towards mediumship, or that'ssomething that you were
developing or an area or avenuethat you want to go down.
What's your experience been likewith that and how do you see
that being integrated into yourcurrent practice?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_09053 (30:10):
Oh,
yes.
This is all connected with theIC record reading, you know,
making people less afraid ofdeath.
The thing is, is I also had alittle bit of fear around it
because when I was younger, I, Iwas seeing ghost and everything
like that.
I'm like, oh, I don't know if Iwant to see that again.
But I do know that when I wasyounger and I was having all
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these spiritual experiences and.
I do remember like going aroundtrying to find answers for
myself, and this is way beforepeople were talking about it on
the internet.
I remember I would like go toBarnes and Nobles or whatever
bookstore was available and tryto go to like the spiritual
section and try to read as manybooks as I can to just try to
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like I'm not going crazy and sostrange, but as I was a kid.
I used to like to read thedictionary for fun.
I don't know why, but I rememberfinding this word in the
dictionary medium, and Iremember my spirit guides like
really me focus on this word andlike circling it for me, like a
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medium.
I read it and, and I, it waslike people who can contact like
the spiritual realm.
And I just remember really.
Understanding that that's what Iam.
I don't know, I was like eightor nine years old and I was
telling my spirit guy, it'slike, I really think this could
be helpful, you know, to, makepeople less afraid to death.
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'cause they're getting too speakto someone that they've loved
that's passed over.
It's just me trying to move outof my own fears.
To be able to do this, but I'mgetting a lot of encouragement
now and I'm some courses on itand practicing, and it's
actually been a really, reallybeautiful experience and I
really like the evidential partof it as well.
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So yeah, I hope to be able tooffer this soon for others.
'cause I think it really stillgoes along with my purpose.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_1105 (32:08):
And
you mentioned as a kid you were
having psychic experiences, sothis, is this something that's
been with you your whole life?
I know you mentioned theKundalini awakening, and I know
often for many people that's acatalyst for a, you know, a
plethora of psychic abilities tocome online, but it sounds like
this may have been a part ofyour experience for a long time.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_0905 (32:31):
Yes,
ever since I was a kid, and you
know, when you're a kid and youhave these abilities.
And no one else is talking aboutthem.
You don't know if you're theonly one or not.
And, um, luckily my mom, she hassome intuitive abilities and she
did tell me that things might besome strange things might happen
in, in my life.
And not to be afraid of them,but if I started to talk to
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friends about this, they thoughtI was crazy.
So I just suppressed so much forso long.
But yeah, breadcrumbs ofexperience, thing leading to the
next.
But I definitely had time in mylife too, where I just tried to
shut it all down and just live anormal life.
I feel like a lot of us havedone that.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_11 (33:11):
Yeah,
I can certainly relate to your
experience.
Uh, feeling like I was the onlyperson in the room that was
seeing things or understandingor noticing things.
Like at, at a certain point, itbecame obvious to me that nobody
around me was sharing myexperience.
And it, like you said, it canmake you feel like, like there's
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something wrong with you oryou're going crazy or just like.
Something's not right.
And I believe that we're movinginto a time on this planet where
more and more gifted childrenand people who are just
naturally open to theirintuitive gifts are being born
and choosing to incarnate here.
So I think these sorts ofconversations are really
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important to have, and, youknow, not just for the people
who are potentially seeking, uh.
Looking for a spiritualpractice, like past life
regression, but also for parentsand caretakers and people who
are interacting with potentiallyvery sensitive, uh, children.
So if you, if somebodyapproached you and, and they
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said, I.
Hey, my, I feel like my kid istalk, they're talking to people
that I can't see or they'reaccessing something that I'm not
aware of.
How would you tell them toapproach that?
Or, or what advice would yougive a parent with a, a gifted
or a very sensitive child?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534 (34:33):
I
would have to see where their
mindset is already.
But I mean, of course I thinkyou need to nurture your child's
abilities.
I think there's a lot of greatsupport groups now, um, support
groups that didn't exist when Iwas younger.
But I mean, it's also possiblemaybe for the parents too, just
to start to question everythingtoo, and have their own
spiritual experiences.
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mean, maybe they wanna pass liferegression.
I'm not gonna push it on them,but I mean, I guess there would
probably be some good books thatthey could read.
But yeah, I really do thinkthere's a lot of children
coming, uh, onto this earthplane now with a lot of
beautiful abilities, and theyare our future.
So I hope that they are treatedwell.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025 (35:14):
Speaking
of the future, like I am pretty
hesitant to get into anypredictive sort of area because
it's just so slippery and I feellike often that can almost be a
distraction for people is likefocusing too much on what could
happen or what this channelsaid, or what this psychic said,
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or what this person said, ratherthan, you know, kind of missing
the point of being here now.
Right.
Where you're at and enjoyingyour experience, but given all
the work that you've done withpeople.
What's your sense of the kind offuture that we're moving into
now?
I understand that there areprobably many potentials and
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like, is there a general senseof the, like the energy that
we're moving into or like a a, astate of the world that's,
that's going to come about inthe future?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534 (36:08):
I
wouldn't say that I do too much
predictive work.
Um, but I'm trying to think oflike messages that come through
for others.
'cause a lot of people do comein with, uh, fears, hesitations
about the future.
I think it's very normal.
I mean, we are a little bit somechaos, let's.
Be honest, but it feels like themessages that come through are
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really based around, um, notbeing afraid.
Not being afraid, like beingpresent in the moment.
and there was a beautifulmessage that came in for someone
yesterday, uh, that we'restronger than we think we are,
that one comes through a lot.
then the other message thatseems to come through for people
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and even for myself quite often.
Is, don't forget to have fun.
Even if there is some chaosaround us, like, let's not
forget to have fun and besupportive of each other and to
find community and, and evenjust to focus on the small
things or the things that we, wecan control.
'cause there's always gonna bethese storms in the background,
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right?
We might, we might even be in astorm, you know, but like focus
on what we can and, um.
A lot of things about innerstrength and just realizing that
we can handle a lot more than wethink we can.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_1105 (37:29):
No.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_09053 (37:29):
all
I'll say for now.
I don't really do too muchpredictive,
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_11 (37:33):
Yeah,
that's, that's perfect.
And, like I said, I am hesitantto get into the specific
predictions and things likethat.
I'm like, I personally, I, Itrust that whatever's gonna
happen is gonna happen for areason, and that that's what
we're supposed to experience andtherefore.
Uh, trying to think about it oroveranalyze it is just basically
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a waste of my time.
It's gonna happen whether or notI understand it or, things are
gonna happen that are outta mycontrol and I just need to do
the best that I can in themoment to.
To, to deal with what comes up.
And, and I trust that theuniverse is never gonna provide
me with an experience that Ican't handle.
And I believe that foreverybody.
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And that even though we mayperceive that, you know, this
is, this is something that's toobig, I don't think it ever
really is, and that we alwayshave the ability to rise to the
occasion and, and meet whateverkind of situation arises in our
life, even the challenging ones.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534 (38:34):
It
is interesting right now'cause
my spirit guides just made melike, take a look at the name of
your channel.
Again, alternate timelines andthey wanted me to say that, um,
we are also in control of ourtimelines.
They're trying to tell me,they're telling me now that if
we are really choosing to liveon a fear-based timeline, we'll
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we'll attract more of thatenergy.
So they want me to remindeveryone, just, you know, try to
stay more positive and focusedon the beautiful aspects of life
and love, because we arecreating our own, our own
future, our own timelines.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_1105 (39:10):
And
it's interesting that you like
your core mission in this lifeand, and probably multiple
lifetimes, is to help peoplebecome less afraid of death.
That is a big motivator formyself as well.
I, I spent a quite a lot of timefacilitating plant medicine
ceremonies and one thing Irealized after doing it quite a
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bit and working with a lot ofpeople was that a lot of the
things that manifest as dis-easein people's lives, symptoms of
depression, symptoms of anxiety,the different.
Manifestations of I illness arequite often if you really drill
down and get to the root cause,is this underlying fear of
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death.
You wouldn't think of it andit's not apparent by, just
looking at people and seeing allthe different issues that people
experience.
And like when, for me.
I just saw it over and over andover again when I really drilled
into it with people.
Like that's where it wouldalmost always go to this,
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underlying fear of, of death.
And it's almost like you'recarrying around a weight your
entire life, like a, this thingthat you have on your shoulders
that's, you don't even recognizethat it's there.
It's, it's always in the back ofyour mind.
It's always present, and it'salways lurking, and it's always
having some sort of effect onyou, even though you're.
Typically unconscious of it.
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So I'm curious as to like howthat lands with you and, and how
you've seen that fear manifestin people's lives.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_09 (40:47):
That's
really interesting that you said
that.
Yes, I, I do agree.
Yeah.
I feel like most causes ofdisease is related to fear.
I wasn't sure if you're gonnasay fear of death, but I can
definitely see how that couldbe.
What I also see, yes, manypeople have a fear of death, but
a lot of people also have a, afear of living, which is
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interesting about actuallyliving.
Some people are so stuck intheir comfort zone.
So I mean, one time my spiritguides said to me, they're like,
you're supposed to make peopleless afraid of death, you're
also supposed to make peopleless afraid to live.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_1105 (41:27):
How
do you perceive that fear of
death manifesting in people'slives?
What are they experiencing intheir life as a result of that
fear or death or any sort offear that they're hanging onto
consciously or unconsciously.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_ (41:41):
Everyone
knows that they have the fear of
death.
I think that's what you'resaying when that's coming up in
the, in the plant medicine.
So sometimes they don't evenknow why they're coming to me,
but their subconscious isrevealing that they have a fear
of death, um, that could behalting them really, um, from
doing what they wanna reallywanna do.
Like playing safe.
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I mean, it's okay.
You should be careful what youdo.
We shouldn't, they're allcautioned to the wind.
Um, but I just feel like there'sa lot of people not following
their passion or following, um,not living.
Yeah, I mean it's amazing whatthe subconscious will say when
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they're under these states.
but I really do hope when theyhave a session, when they hear
it come from themself.
You know, all this information,all this, that guidance that's
coming out from themself, andthey listen back to the
recording, that they do actuallybuild up enough bravery to live
the life that they, they shouldbe living.
I mean, I know I, I know that wehave multiple lives, but still
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the most important one is theone that we're living right now,
and we should really do our bestto make the most of it.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_ (42:52):
That's,
uh, quite the jux juxtaposition
between the fear of death andthe fear of living.
When you say that, it seems likethere be, would be on two
distant ends of the spectrum,but I think kinda what you're
alluding to is if you really diginto it and you really examine
it, they might be two sides ofthe same coin.
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They have the fear of livingand, and the fear of death.
'cause they probably havesimilar sorts of an impact on,
on our lives I can totally seehow, if, if somebody is able to
come to terms with the fact thatthis life is impermanent and our
spirits are made out of energy,energy never dies, that we come
back over and over and overagain.
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Like you, like you mentioned itkind of.
Take some of the heaviness awayfrom it, some of the
seriousness, and it allows youto, potentially look at life as
like, you know, Hey, this is notmy first time.
It's not gonna be my last time.
So, you know, it's, I don't needto hang on to the fear and all
the heaviness if I don't getsomething right.
If I don't do it perfect thistime, Well I'll have another
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opportunity to try again in thefuture.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534 (44:01):
I
love that.
Yes, they can experiment alittle bit more.
Be a little bit more creative.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534 (44:07):
I
spent some time in India and I
was talking to somebody about myexperience there, and the, the
culture in India is just waydifferent than our Western
culture.
And the, it's almost like theexperience of time is, is d
different.
And somebody told me, they'relike, you know, everybody in
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that culture believes inreincarnation.
That's why nobody's in a hurryto do anything.
You know, you, you go walkingthrough town and there's people
just hanging out on the, thefront doorstep and you know,
people just on the cornerhanging out, talking.
Whereas if you go to LA it'sjust like everybody's on a
mission to get where they needto go, and it's just an entirely
different feel.
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It's like, well, yeah, of coursethe Western people in western
culture, there's this sense ofurgency because they've, they.
They're not so intimatelyconnected with this
understanding that they'll justbe reborn again if they don't
get everything done in thislifetime.
So I'm wondering, that urgency,that, that sense of needing to
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get things done now, like howdoes that, change people and how
do people often react?
When they, when they have one ofthose breakthrough moments and
they realize like, oh, thisisn't my first time and, and
this, this fear that I've beenholding onto is really
unnecessary.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090 (45:32):
Well,
when you're talking about this,
I'm also like, oh, I'm one ofthose people with urgency.
But I've also been told like Ihave a very proactive soul.
I always get these messageslike, it's okay to slow down.
You don't have to do it all inthis lifetime.
Um, but yes, if, if someonewould have a past life
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regression and they've alreadyseen some of the experiences
that they've already had, um, Imean, we're just like a, our
lives are like differentchapters in a book, but we are
essentially this huge book ofexperiences.
I mean, I wouldn't tell someone,you don't have to do something.
I mean.
Listen to what your soul wantsto do in this lifetime.
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might choose to have a slowlife.
You might choose to want to havean action packed life.
I mean, either way is okay.
soul and experience isdifferent.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_1105 (46:25):
And
if somebody asks you like, how
come I can't remember my pastlives as it is, why do I have to
go through this whole process?
Why does it seem like it'shidden away or, or, you know,
behind the veil, so to speak?
Like, what is the purpose ofthat?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534 (46:41):
I
think our brains would just be
overloaded.
I mean, some people do rememberpast lives.
They don't absolutely need apast life regression.
And of course there's thosestories of the children that
remember their past lives, whichare amazing.
can you imagine if we had allthat information at once?
I think we would go insane.
It's better if it just comes in.
it's like drip fed to us, right,then we can just integrate it
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into our current life.
Otherwise, it would just be toomuch, too overwhelming.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_11 (47:10):
Yeah.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090 (47:10):
think
we
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110 (47:11):
And.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_0905 (47:11):
when
we need it.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_ (47:13):
That's,
that's very much my sense as
well.
As we start to wrap this up, ifsomebody's interested in
connecting with their spiritguides or making a connection to
a potential source ofinformation in the spiritual
realm.
What are some practices that,,that might be useful for them or
that they could start to delveinto, in addition to, you know,
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potentially past life regressiontherapy.
But I'm thinking more along thelines of an open line of
communication where you can get,encouragement and subtle hints
in a very kind of real time,like a, like a prayer, so to
speak.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534 (47:52):
I,
uh, I still think most of it
comes down to meditation.
that's still the best practicethat we can do.
What ha What really helped mewhen I was younger was, um,
automatic writing.
So I don't know if.
If that's for everyone, but Imean, that would be like to go
into a meditative state with apen in your hand, sitting in
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front of a, a, you know, a blankpiece of paper and maybe ask a
question and then just kind ofjust let your hand, kind of
like, you can start with yes orno questions.
I even say maybe use your lesspredominant hand because you
kind of, it is like a differentbrainwave.
So I think automatic, um,writing is very.
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but in general meditation, Ijust feel like everyone can to
access guidance, spirit guides,um, sources of inspiration
through meditation and of coursethere's so many different kinds
of meditation, but, um,
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110 (48:49):
That
was my, that was my next
question.
That was my next question.
You know, for, for a lot ofpeople the word meditation is.
Relatively ambiguous.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_0905 (48:58):
Yes.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_11 (48:58):
what,
what forms of meditation or do
you have a preferred method orway to, to meditate?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_0905 (49:06):
Yes.
I would still say start yourmeditation off with like
clearing your mind and calmingdown and doing breath work.
But then take your questionsinto meditation once you've
reached that frequency or thatbrainwave, and I think you're
more connected and to stay openfor what guidance you can
receive.
I know a lot of people are gonnadoubt it in the beginning, the
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more you practice, the more you.
Get familiar with that realm,the more you start to trust the
answers that you receive.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_11053 (49:34):
It
sounds like what you're saying
also is practice, like keeptrying and, and keep at it and,
and make it a practice,something that you do on a
regular basis.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_0 (49:44):
mm-hmm.
Yes, exactly.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534 (49:47):
I
don't know why this question
just popped into my head, but doyou ever communicate with
animals?
Do you ever do any sort of workaround, animal communication?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_0905 (49:58):
That
would be really nice to do.
You know, I might, um, in ourmediumship practice that we're
doing right now, we areconnecting with animals that
have passed to the other side.
So I think it is possible, Ihaven't focused on animals, but
I'm not opposed to it I.
I love animals.
It would be it.
Yes, they definitely have soulsand they definitely have things
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to say as well that I know forsure.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_11053 (50:22):
me
too.
I was doing, uh, I don'tremember if I was meditating or
exactly what the context was,but I had a, my family had a dog
that passed away when I wasreally little.
His name was King.
I.
And I don't have any consciousmemories of this dog as a black
lab.
I think he, I was like threewhen he passed away, and I was
either working with plantmedicine or just meditating
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maybe.
And all of a sudden I felt thisenergy and I was like king.
Like, oh, and I didn't, again, Idon't have any conscious
memories of this dog, but Irecognized him right away.
I was like, oh, that's that.
That's super interesting and,and I'm just thinking that.
Yeah, many people have superdeep connections with their
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animals and I think that wouldbe a really.
Fascinating way to explore thosesorts of relationships through
past life regression and goinginto a past life regression
session with that intention oftrying to figure out, like your
connection to the animals inyour life, and if you've had
them in the past or, you know,there's a lot of different
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avenues you could go down withthat, but I've been spending a
lot of time with my animalsrecently, so that's kind of been
on my mind.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_0905 (51:35):
They
can be part of our soul family,
that's for sure.
And you know, even in past liferegression, you can see yourself
as an animal.
The very
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_11 (51:43):
Real.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_0905 (51:43):
past
life regression I did, I saw
myself as a dolphin actually thefirst two past life regressions,
I was a dolphin twice.
So it is possible.
Yeah, they are part of our soulfamilies.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_11 (51:57):
Thank
you for sharing that because I
have a past life.
Uh, two past life regressionsthat I've done, one where I was
a dolphin,
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_0 (52:06):
Mm-hmm.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_1105 (52:07):
and
another one where I had a
relationship with a dolphin.
Like the, the, the dolphin wasalmost like a family member,
like almost closer than a familymember.
Like I would go see my friendthe dolphin every single day
because I lived by the ocean.
So I, and I wonder what that iswith, with the dolphins.
I know there's incrediblyintelligent and intuitive an
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animals that are.
Who knows how in touch they arewith the spirit realm.
But that's really interestingthat y your animal experiences
are particularly are arounddolphins,
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090 (52:42):
Maybe
we were dolphins together, and
here
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_1 (52:45):
maybe.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_ (52:46):
podcast.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534 (52:50):
I
mean the life of a dolphin.
Swimming around.
I mean, it looks like it's somuch fun just going here and
there and playing with yourfriends, and they seem to be
really inquisitive, playfulcreatures.
So.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534 (53:04):
I
remember it felt like freedom.
Yes.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025 (53:06):
Alright,
Jessica, this has been a, an
incredibly enlighteningconversation.
Thank you so much for sharing.
I know the subjects that wetalked about today are sometimes
hard to articulate and kind ofchallenging to put into words,
and I really appreciate yourpoint of view and the way that
you communicate about your workand what you do.
If anybody's interested inworking with you and learning
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more about what you do or justconnecting with you in general,
what's the best way for them todo that?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534 (53:35):
I
am on all the social media
platforms, but my website is,uh, you can look up spirit
explorations, so www spiritexplorations.com.
I'm on Instagram, all of them,so you can find me that way.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534 (53:51):
I
think I found you on Instagram
and I've been following you fora while and really enjoying your
content and I'm so glad that Ireached out and we were able to
make this connection and havethe conversation.
So Jessica, thank you again.
Thank you so much for coming on.
I.
I appreciate your expertise andyour stories and for sharing,
and I hope that this isn't thelast time that we can do this
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because I, I believe that wecould probably have many
conversations and, the realm ofspiritual and intuitive gifts is
such a, it's such a broad field.
We could probably have manyconversations about these sorts
of topics.
So, uh, thank you again verymuch for coming on.
I, I really appreciate it.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090 (54:31):
Thank
you, Ian.
I'm also really enjoying whatyou're doing.
Keep up.
Keep it up.