The Manure Meditations | A Psychic Farmer’s Story w/ Allison Peterson

What if the most profound spiritual awakening of your life started... while scooping manure?

In this unexpected and deeply personal conversation, Allison Peterson shares how farm life, heartbreak, and a shovel full of cow poop cracked her open to intuitive downloads and psychic mediumship. 

From AI-inseminated heifers to full moon rituals, we explore how working with animals, land, and loss can become a gateway to soul-level healing and awakening.

This episode is a reminder that intuition doesn’t always arrive in candlelit ceremonies or sacred temples—it can meet you in the mud, under the stars, with your hands full of compost and your heart cracked wide open.

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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:54 Allison Peterson: Farmer and Psychic Medium
03:38 Journey to Farming
06:39 A Self-Sustaining Lifestyle
13:30 Lessons with Farm Animals
24:43 Developing Psychic Abilities 
34:26 Embracing Quiet and Meditation
38:56 Redefining Farming
46:05 Spiritual Awakening
01:00:35 Aligning Inner and Outer Worlds
01:03:46 Conclusion and Contact Info

About the Guest:
Allison Peterson is a psychic medium, intuitive business consultant, and founder of Brain Wiggle—a practice dedicated to helping individuals and entrepreneurs align with their highest potential. With over a decade of experience in strategic communications and design, Allison combines practical business strategy with energetic insight to support clients on both personal and professional levels.

Drawing from her own journey as a regenerative homesteader and farmer, Allison brings a uniquely embodied approach to her work—bridging the seen and unseen with clarity, warmth, and integrity.

Through Brain Wiggle, Allison helps clients clear energetic blocks, reconnect with their inner guidance, and build aligned, purpose-driven lives and businesses.

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Episode Transcript

allison-peterson_1_ (00:00):
information started coming through,\\it

(00:01):
sounds like my own inner voice,but the messages were using
vocabulary that are not my ownpersonal vocabulary.
So that was like the, what isthis?
I had this calling, this urgeafter, watching a documentary
that introduced me toPermaculture to see all of these
systems work so beautiful inharmony.

(00:23):
am strong, but I'm not as strongas a 600 pound animal.
So I can't just like, use bruteforce and I'm not gonna use fear
to control something that Iwanted in my life, And honestly,
I went back and forth of likeknowing deep in my heart that
this is absolutely 100% true.
And the other half telling myhusband if he thought I needed

(00:44):
to be checked into a mentalfacility, that I trusted his
judgment more than mine at thismoment in time.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025 (00:54):
Allison, if you were to meet somebody at
a local barbecue, or maybe inyour instance a local rodeo, how
do you describe what you do whensomebody asks you, what is it
that you do?

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025 (01:08):
I think it would depend on what I
wanted or what I thought wouldbe best achieved with the answer
that I gave, and the way I wouldgo about it.
Um, I would be open with boththings.
Well, one, I am just a humanright.
I'm just my human having myhuman experience.
But if you ask what I do duringmy human experience.

(01:31):
I'm a farmer, um, but I'm also apsychic medium.
And which one I tell firstdepends on the situation.
I do enjoy telling people thatI'm a farmer first because they
understand that I'm a grounded,logical, hardworking person that
appreciates our world.

(01:53):
And then when they have that unthat foundation of who I am and
how I live my life, I love toadd the psychic medium part as a
cherry on top as a perk, it'slike I'm connected to the earth
here, hands in dirt, but I'malso connected to it in a
completely different way aswell.

(02:16):
And I feel like when I sayfarmer first, psychic medium
second, um, I kinda like vetmyself a little bit and, and,
um, not to say that psychicmediums.
Are a bunch of cookies.
Right.
Um, but I think there's somestereotypes that I would like to
trying to skirt around byintroducing myself as, what I

(02:38):
enjoy doing That's more tangiblefor the common person to
understand.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (02:43):
That makes total sense.
People have a, a stereotype of afarmer as well in their mind,
but that, that stereotype isusually more, perhaps easily
approachable and understandable.
And there's not as manyquestions potentially around
what a farmer does if a farmergrows crops

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (03:03):
Yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09 (03:03):
tends to

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (03:04):
Yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0904 (03:05):
you know, old McDonald had a farm,
E-I-E-I-O kind of thing.
So,

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (03:09):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0904 (03:10):
uh, and, and thank you for sharing
and I'd love to explore both ofthose areas.
And I think where you and I havea lot of similarities and a lot
of commonalities is that we, I.
We both ex live with one foot ineach of those realms.
And so I'm super excited to, tohave you on and to talk with you
and to get your perspective on,on this kind of life because,

(03:31):
you know, I have my perspective,but you, have a different, uh,
experience and, you know, justlife experience in general.
So how did you get to be slashpsychic medium?
And I know, know, it sounds likeyou're doing both of those
things simultaneously, but isthere, just give us a little

(03:55):
backstory.
Like what, what came first?
Or like, how did this situationcome to be?
Because I, my guess is that itwasn't always like that.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-202 (04:04):
It wasn't always like this, and
it's very recently been this, sofor the majority of my life I
was, I.
I went to school for graphicdesign, visual communications,
so I spent the majority of mytime inside at a desk reading
files that actually don't exist.
And that felt good for a whilebecause, you know, we, we could

(04:26):
stay up on our heads all daylong, creating, creating.
But I realized, not consciouslyrealized, but I needed to start
creating things like physical,tangible items.
Um, the thought of all of mywork and efforts, if a server
were to crash or be damaged tobe poofed is gone in smoke, just

(04:47):
started to really not sit wellwith me.
So I lived in the suburbs ofBoston for 11 years and during
that time I started our, ourfirst garden.
Before that, I had nevergardened anything before, so
this is my 14th year ofgardening.
Um, and so that was fun and feltnovel, but.

(05:08):
When you get hands on earth,it's hard to go back, um, when
you really start to feel thatconnection.
So our first garden was, youknow, maybe four feet wide by 12
feet long.
Right?
Very easy to manage.
And now we have, our garden isbigger than our first whole
property of our first home.

(05:29):
and so that growing is just, Idon't wanna say in its addiction
because it's not negative atall, but you understand like
it's just a source of knowledge,enjoying connection.
It just keeps growing andgrowing and growing and you want
more and you wanna explore moreand you get more curious about
what you can grow and do andmake on your own.
So I had been running my own,uh, freelance business for, um,

(05:53):
strategic communicationsadvertising, uh, graphic design,
all of that for a little over adecade.
But I decided that I wanted to.
Open up another business, whichwas a micro farm.
And so, um, on our little plotof land, we were, um, just under
four tenths of an acre.
Um, I created an e-commerce siteand I started growing.

(06:15):
You know, I had our own, uh,garden herbs.
I was baking food from scratch.
I had a beehive, so I wasbeekeeper and selling honey.
And that felt really good, butnot quite, it wasn't quite
hitting the mark because myenergy was what, what I didn't
realize until later is my energywas still going out.

(06:35):
More was coming out.
That was coming in, that was on,that's on me.
So in 2020 we took the risk andtook the leap and we left the
suburbs of Boston and we movedto central Connecticut.
And it was for the basis of, Ihad.
In December, 2020, I had thiscalling, this urge after, um,

(06:57):
watching a documentary thatintroduced me to Permaculture to
see all of these systems work sobeautiful in harmony.
Before then, um, as a childgrowing up in Missouri, I just
was, um, familiar withmonoculture and mono
agriculture, and that's all thatI knew, and I didn't want that,
that didn't make sense to me.
But permaculture, when you'vegot livestock and plants and uh,

(07:21):
you know, you're forest andeverything working together and
the system that continues toreplenish itself, that clicked,
that made sense.
So I stopped working for otherpeople and I started working for
Mother Nature.
And we, we went to Connecticutand we started, um, this is my
first time to have livestocklarger than a a chicken.

(07:42):
Um, in our very first year, wehad pigs and goats and heifer
calves and a hundred meat birds,and about 20 laying hens all
together.
So we just went straight on init was the most stressful, wild,
chaotic, crazy time in my life.
However, I always say that likethat, that summer taught me you

(08:03):
eat it when you're a farmer, youeat a slice of humble pie every
day.
And some days those slices aremuch bigger than others.
so that is, that is where Irolled into it and I realize I
still use my strategic thinkingas a farmer because we have to
really zoom out and see how allof these systems are gonna work
and think about the future.

(08:25):
Based on the past and present ina positive, helpful, meaningful
way.
Whereas when we're worried aboutthe past and future in some of
our daily life activities, thatcan get us into a bit of a
pickle when we start tooverthink about things.
But right now I know that as afarmer mother nature, she is my

(08:47):
boss and she lets me know myschedule.
She knows when I should workharder, when I should take a
rest.
And I love that.
And I love that because it makessense and I know it's it's the
truth.
Nothing's hiding in the, like,the reason behind it, it just
is, it's just information.
So that is how I got here.

(09:07):
That's, yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09044 (09:09):
no ulterior motive when it rains.
It's just,

allison-peterson_1_07- (09:13):
exactly.
It's just rain,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_ (09:16):
There's no office politics about it.
There's no

allison-peterson_1_07-10 (09:20):
right.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0904 (09:20):
the promotion or, you know, if this
is happening for this reason orthat reason.
It's

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (09:24):
Yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (09:25):
it's just raining.
And yeah, there's a

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (09:27):
it's just raining.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0904 (09:29):
and I think you're, you're right,
it's, it's something thatdoesn't need to be overanalyzed.
You can still have, it stillgives you structure a way.
It's, feels kind of random attimes, like when it rains, when
it's sunny, when, when you

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (09:43):
Yes,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_ (09:43):
things.
And at the same time, takes theburden off of you.
And, and it, I think it helpscultivate trust because there's
a saying that I love that says,nature never rushes, but
everything always gets done.
And, and

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (09:57):
yes,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0 (09:58):
rather than just thinking about that
and that being a, a thoughtthat's rolling around in your
head, it becomes tangible andvisible and experiential in your
life.
like for me personally, it'shelped me to develop a deeper
faith.
It's just like things are allgonna work out.
They, every year, the springcomes, summer comes, the crops
grow, things happen.

(10:19):
It's never gonna look the same.
And everything gets, everythingthat needs to get done does get
done in its

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (10:26):
Yeah.
I love that you mentioned faith,because it's faith that makes
sense to me.
It's faith that I can see thatmeasurable proof, that
measurable progress doesn'tmatter when I start my seeds
three weeks earlier than lastyear, 10, 10 weeks later than
the year before.
Somehow there's always somethinggrowing and somehow I already

(10:46):
always have too many tomatoesand that's fine.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0 (10:48):
That's a awesome problem to have.
Yeah,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (10:52):
Yes,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0904 (10:52):
it,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (10:53):
yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09044 (10:53):
as far as the garden goes, I, I
love spending time in my garden.
And no ma like you said, nomatter what you do, it's always
gonna be different.
And that's, that's part of thefun of it.
I tend to like to let things goto seed and see what happens
next year.

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (11:07):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (11:07):
I've got an enormous, right in the
middle of one of my rows, I havean enormous cilantro patch.
I have no idea where it camefrom.
I, it's like I don't eat thatmuch cilantro, and every time I
walk into the garden, it smellslike cilantro and random dill
plants everywhere.
So

allison-peterson_1_07-10 (11:24):
That's right.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (11:25):
love it.
And I think that's, I reallysomething that people don't
think about when, if you'venever spent time in a garden or
have had a garden for successiveyears, the, the amount of
variety with that can happen ina relatively small plot of land.

(11:45):
It's a, it's an adventure

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (11:46):
Yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09 (11:46):
time.
You never really know whatyou're gonna get.
And I think some people perceivegardening as, as work as, you
know, pulling weeds and wateringand all the things that come
along with it, which is part ofit.
And from my personal experience,there's just so much more to it.

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (12:04):
Yeah, and I think it all, it's, you
know, some people will feel likegardening's a chore and I can
understand that feeling.
When we moved to this property,we tried to work with the setup
that the previous owner had thatworked for her, but it super,
duper duper did not work for us.
And, and, and I felt so, Ididn't feel defeated.

(12:27):
I didn't feel anger, I just felta little lost.
Like, I can't believe that Ican't just do my thing that I've
been doing and doing well, andthen a copy paste it to apply.
So it's like kind of that, um,parallel for, for life things,
you know, when you pick up andmove, even though you still
wanna do the same thing.
Accomplish the same goals, youstill may have to do it a

(12:49):
completely different way.
You still might need, mostlikely need to tear it all down
and rebuild it, um, to fit yournew situation.
So yeah, if gardening does,feels like a chore, you might
wanna try a different type ofgarden, right?
Or different type of plant or adifferent, you know, there's
just so many different variablesthat if you get, if you take the

(13:09):
time to think about the pros andcons of your setup and your
plants and your own lifeschedule, you know, you can
either work with it or againstit.
And working against nature neverfeels good.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09 (13:20):
Yeah, that is a, a recipe for
frustration and anguish.
I,

allison-peterson_1_07-1 (13:26):
Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_ (13:27):
commend you on your.
Bravery in taking on so manyanimals Your first year?
I, a little bit about me, I grewup on a a commercial farm and I,
I understand how much workanimals are, especially large
farm animals like cattle and,

allison-peterson_1_07-1 (13:46):
Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (13:46):
and, and the, and pigs, like, they're
all very unique.
People

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (13:51):
Yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (13:51):
farm animals and, you know, farm
animals, but the lifestyle ofand requirements for a pig
versus that of a goat versusthat of a chicken,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (14:03):
It's like a parrot and a fish and a
cat.
You're like, I know they're allpets, but that's not.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09 (14:08):
Yeah, so like, I'm, I'm curious'cause
I have a deep love for animalsand I'm always curious about pe
other people's experience withthem and, and I know people are
gonna be listening to this andthere's, there's gonna be a
certain amount of people who arethinking about getting a farm
animal or farm animals of somesort at, at some scale.

(14:29):
Going through your experience,starting at, basically went from
zero to 99, What

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (14:36):
Yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (14:37):
what was that experience

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (14:38):
yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0904 (14:38):
you said it was and chaotic, but
like,

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (14:43):
yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (14:43):
were in the shoes of somebody who was
thinking about doing what youdid, like what kind of advice
would you give them?
As far as farm animals.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-202 (14:54):
so first I wanna say, although we
did get everyone, everything, itwas like the month of June
within a four week span.
We went from just laying henjust chickens to everybody's
here.
So that was a lot.
That's not how we had plannedfor it, but that's how it
happened.
So first with anything, yourlocal library, especially if you

(15:16):
live in a rural area, is goingto be filled with a lot of great
animal husbandry books.
And I feel like, you know, theinternet is great for a lot of
information, um, especiallyYouTube videos of, of people
showing their homestead.
And there's a lot, a lot you canlearn about it, A lot of clever
little tricks and then a lot ofthings like, ooh, I see how
that's not super helpful and I'mjust gonna make note of that

(15:39):
too.
Because again, what works forsomeone may not work for you at
all.
So I'm very heavy on theplanning and the research.
I like to have as muchinformation upfront as possible.
And I think the number one thingis don't just go and get an
animal and think you'll figureit out later.
That's doing a disservice.
One to the animal who.

(16:00):
I feel is most important in thisequation.
Um, and it's gonna make yourlife, you know, that's working
against nature instead ofworking with it.
it's not gonna have you in apresent state of mind when
you're caring for that animaland, and listening or observing
to it to understand its needs.
The one lots of information,library books, YouTube videos,

(16:23):
blogs, substack, like, there'sso, there's so much informa.
We have so much information atour fingertips.
Please use that first.
For the sake of the animal andthe sake of your sanity, please
use that first.
Uh, the reason why we got all ofthe animals at once is because
the property that we live on,although we have, um, about five

(16:44):
or six acres of field, thehanging field, there were no
livestock.
There was no livestock on it, sowe did not have any
infrastructure.
So ours is kind of like a, atournament bracket of like,
who's gonna make the cut.
It.
Um, we have intentions for eachanimal and the job that they
would provide on the farm.

(17:05):
So the pigs, um, are, areassisting us in a different way
now.
Um, you know, they are in thefreezer, and nourishing us to do
the work to keep going on.
But they were great at taking upthe poison ivy, the goats, we
actually rehomed to a familythat's all about goats, like a

(17:25):
four H family with goats,because we wanted them to do the
poison ivy and clear the brush,but it wasn't exactly
beneficial.
And with the fencing that wehad, uh, they knew when the
electricity was off and theywould slip under and run and eat
our apple trees.
Right?
So it was like a doing, notdoing your job and doing more
harm than good.
Um, the cows, the, the cattleright.

(17:47):
That's for dairy and that's forregenerating the land with their
manure.
So that's an obvious day.
And the chickens, you know, wehad had chickens at our previous
home, but the amount of chickensand, a backyard suburban
backyard to 10 acres of land,that's a very different
scenario.
So it was a big learning curve.
So we wanted to learn all of itall together and see what we

(18:09):
didn't need to consider anymoreor what, you know, in theory and
in practice, so that we coulddevise our infrastructure that
didn't exist for everything towork happily.
And it was very much like the,um, the farmer and the bag of
grain and the duck and the foxgetting across the, the stream.
You know, he can only leave.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (18:30):
that story.
Please

allison-peterson_1_07-10-20 (18:31):
Oh, it's

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0904 (18:31):
me.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-20 (18:32):
so, it's like on two sides of the
stream.
And the farmer can get, pick twothings.
To bring over at a time.
The farmer can't leave the duckand the feed together because
the duck will eat the feed.
He can't bring the duck and thefox over'cause the fox will eat
the duck.
And so he has to be verystrategic about order of

(18:53):
operations.
So, if you go in for the bigdeep dive because you want to
understand the order ofoperations that you're setting
up from scratch, I get it.
Just don't commit to anythingfor like two years and, and I
hope you'll make it out.
Um, and also ask for help meetyour community members.

(19:13):
Don't be afraid to admit whenyou're in, in trouble in a
pickle, um, and a livestock vetif you've got one available,
don't, you know, proactiveversus reactive is, is a big
lesson.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448 (19:27):
I love

allison-peterson_1_07-10-202 (19:27):
I,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09 (19:28):
Thank you for sharing all that.
And there's just

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (19:31):
yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-20 (19:31):
intangible things that come up with
animals, especially at scale.
Animals that are outside animalsthat, and especially if you
don't have, prior experiencewith them, you're never gonna be
aware of or understand like howtenaciously goats and pigs will
test a fence and their abilityto find even the, the tiniest

(19:54):
crack or, or way out of a fenceor somehow have this.
Incredible intuition about whenthe fence is not on, and like
fence goes off for 30 secondsand then, and then you, yeah,
and then they're, it's like a

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (20:08):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0904 (20:08):
and they're booking it

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (20:10):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09 (20:11):
apple trees, towards the, the tasty
branches

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (20:13):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (20:13):
they can reach.
something that's really stuckwith me, a piece of wisdom that
I learned is that every minuteyou spend in preparation is
gonna save you 10 minutes inexecution.
that, that's as much as there isa part of me who wants to just
wing it and, and try things.
And, and I do, I also recognizethat, that depending on the

(20:37):
circumstances, that that may notgive me the outcome that I want,
or often it'll just create morework for me on the backend.
And I, I can almost always lookback and say, okay, if I'd sat
down for a half an hour andjust.
Plan this out, this situationwould've probably gone a lot
more smoothly.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (20:56):
Yes.
Don't underestimate the power ofa, a blank piece of grid paper.
Um, and also I think it's areally good practice in balance
of, Embracing restrictions orembracing letting go of control.
What is within your control isyour, the knowledge you can do

(21:18):
upfront.
The materials and tools that youcan have on hand.
Do as much of that good ti goodcontrol as possible upfront so
that when it's time to actuallydo the thing, and now there's so
much out of your controller,out, out of your hands, that
you've got the tools and theknowledge to handle it

(21:41):
gracefully and in a positiveway.
If you're trying to go, likewinging it on both ends, it's
just, it is not gonna, your cowsare gonna be all tagged on
Facebook, right?
That like your, whose cows areout.
I don't know.
That's like what our localFacebook group is.
Someone's cows are out,someone's pigs are out,
someone's goats are out.
Like that happens.

(22:01):
I get it.
Just, yeah.
That neighbor that it's like thedaily.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09044 (22:05):
Of all the animals that you've had,
and up to this point, which oneshave you enjoyed the most and
why?
And I'm not gonna ask you whatyour favorite is,'cause for me
that's a hard question, butwhich ones do you find yourself
spending the most time with or,or enjoying their presence the
most and why?

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025 (22:21):
I would say our miniature heifer
jersey, Dexter Cross, uh, choppyand cricket are their names.
Um, our heifers who arecurrently bred and then once
they give birth, I canofficially call them cows.
And they are actually cows,right.
But they're not cows yet.
Um,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (22:40):
must have some

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (22:41):
they have been my.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (22:42):
who, who is constantly correcting
you.
It's, it's not a cow yet.

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (22:46):
Well, you know, when, when, yeah.
When you're the city girl, youknow, coming from the city and
you don't know nothing, not thatI have any neighbors that do
that, right.
But I feel like the tech, it'slike that bowl is not a cow and
there's like, there's abenchmark of like, if I don't
use the actual words, like whatdoes she actually know?
Right.

(23:07):
Um, so our heifers, poppy andcricket, I would say I highly
favor them because they havetaught me the hardest lessons I
need to learn about myself.
The amount of confidence youneed, like I'm only five four.
I, I am strong, but I'm not asstrong as a 600 pound animal.

(23:28):
Um, so I can't just like, usebrute force and I'm not gonna
use fear to control somethingthat I wanted in my life, right?
That I wanted this, this, um,symbiotic relationship with this
livestock in my life.
And so how am I going to dothat?
Well, I have to have confidencein myself to know that I can
work with this animal in a waythat is safe for myself, safe

(23:50):
for it, and a mutually enjoyableexperience.
It's really easy to do that withsomething smaller than you.
Um, not really easy, but it ismuch easier, right when you can
just hold onto a rope or a leashor the chicken is in the coop
and, you know, I lift up thebroody chicken to get the 16
eggs at from underneath her likemy daughter and I did yesterday,

(24:13):
right?
That's not hard.
And so this, that's, they havebeen my greatest challenge
because.
They have showed me my owngreatest challenges.
It's like doing my own shadowwork.
I'm like, all right, here we areagain.
There's just so much to maneuverand so much you, you have to be
so present with large animals,out of safety for both of you.

(24:37):
Um, and they have for, theyforced me to understand what
being truly present is allabout.
with, without them in my life,I'm not sure if I would have
developed my psychic mediumshipabilities.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (24:50):
Wow.

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (24:52):
Yeah.
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09 (24:52):
know, and as you were saying that,
like, up for me is like, yeah,these, especially large animals,
it's like they are such a clearand pure mirror of yourself.
They, you know,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (25:07):
Yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (25:08):
are, and they're so sensitive.
Horses and cattle donkeys, likethe larger ungulates, their
heart fields or the, theelectrical fields around their
hearts are huge.
They're just incredibly in tunewith the things around them in,
in their environment.
the way that they interact withyou and the way that they react

(25:28):
to you is it may, it's notobviously apparent initially,
but they're just reflecting your

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025 (25:34):
I just, they're just reflecting.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025 (25:36):
straight your energy.
And if you're, if you, if youcome at'em in a certain way,
they're gonna respond in acertain way.
And yeah,

allison-peterson_1_07-1 (25:44):
Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (25:45):
like I, I'm, I'm so grateful for the,
the amount of time that I'vebeen able to spend with, with
large animals.
And, growing up on a farm likea, a commercial beef farm,
through observation, I learnedcertain ways to, to deal with
large cattle and which was notreally a, a compassionate way to
deal with, animals, uh, quitefrankly.

allison-peterson_1_07-1 (26:07):
Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0904 (26:07):
And

allison-peterson_1_07-1 (26:08):
Agreed.
I, I, yep.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09 (26:09):
point in my, in my journey, I realized
like, these are living beings.
They may not be sentient in theway that we are, but there is a
consciousness there.
There's a, there, there I needto treat these animals with,
with kindness and compassion andlove and respect.
And

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (26:28):
Yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (26:29):
when my and when that shifted in me,
not, not to use fear, but to uselike curiosity and just to, to
work with them rather thanagainst them.
Like I, I remember specificallyhelping my dad sort cattle at
one point after that shift.

(26:51):
I would just, if there was acattle, if there was a, a animal
in the group that we want, my,my dad wanted out, he would
point to it and I would justwalk up to them and make eye
contact with the ones and like,just slowly just peel it off the
herd.

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (27:04):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09044 (27:05):
my dad stood

allison-peterson_1_07-1 (27:06):
Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0904 (27:07):
and he, like, I could tell something
was like he was trying tocompute what was happening
because he'd never.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (27:15):
How, how do you do that without
hollering at it, right?

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09044 (27:18):
at 'em.
You

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (27:18):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09044 (27:19):
to like, you didn't have to cuss at
'em.
And it's like, yeah, they're

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (27:23):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09 (27:24):
smart and they're just reacting to me.
They're reflecting back my ownenergy to me, and I'm so glad
you, you brought that up and tome, it's like an incredible
opportunity working withanimals, especially large
animals to, yeah.
To, to face your own stuff,because that, that's eventually
what comes up.
And

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (27:42):
Yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09044 (27:42):
if you find yourself in a place or
a situation where you're gettingfrustrated, it's like, well,
yeah, it's, it's hard to push a600 pound animal that doesn't
wanna go anywhere.
It's like, oh, okay.
Like, need to change my behaviorand my vibe and my energy, like
the, the only way the situationis gonna get resolved, and I get

(28:03):
to the re result that I want.
Is by working on myself andchanging my own approach.
And, and I'm

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (28:10):
yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (28:11):
that you brought up the, the psychic
mediumship and developing thatin the context of working with
your cattle.
Like talk a little bit moreabout that.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (28:22):
the, we normally do rotational
grazing throughout our fieldand, and we move, uh, poppy and
cricket through the field everycouple of days.
Although strenuous, like, that'svery rewarding.
And we're seeing our field, uh,revive itself without the use of
any, um, manmade, uh, materials.

(28:42):
Um, just good old ca manureplopping around like, like the
good Lord intended.
But one of our girls was gettinga little, she was looking like a
very well-to-do Renaissancewoman was very plump, getting
large, and, and she needed toshed a few pounds just to, um,
in hopes for a, a healthy AI andbirth.
So we put her in a lot and fedher hay.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09044 (29:05):
AI in birth?

allison-peterson_1_07-10-20 (29:08):
oh, sorry.
Uh, chat.
GPT did not get our cattlepregnant.
We use artificial insemination.
Yeah.
Um, so, so we do not have a bullon the property, and that's not
something, you know, I know I'mcrazy, but not that crazy to add
that into the mix.
So our AI tech suggested that wenot move her through the field

(29:30):
that summer and, um, just sothat we could control her
portions, better to help herlose a little bit of weight
because a, a heavier cow givingbirth is, is not good for the,
the, you know, it's a lot ofstress on, on her physical body.
So, um, throughout that summer,instead of spending my time
moving fences around, I wasscooping manure out of her lot.

(29:52):
And again, I care about myanimals very much, so I was
scooping the, her area twice aday.
And when you're out therescooping manure you know, and
it's quiet and it's 6:00 AM andyou're just hearing the birds
and, and the leaves.
And your mind just starts to go.
And I didn't, what I didn'trealize at the time is that

(30:12):
scooping manure puts me into aflow state almost like
instantly, and my mind clears.
And it's more of like a, aworking meditation, like a
moving meditation for me.
And because life was so chaoticand there was a lot of, a lot of
stressful things going on in, inmy family in that, that moment
in time, my, you know, biggerextended family, that was the

(30:34):
only time, uh, my mind was clearand I wasn't thinking about the
past or thinking about thefuture.
And woo.
So in those moments is when Istarted to receive what I, I now
know, but didn't know at thetime were downloads, from higher
self, from source, from spirit,from God, whatever word you
would like to use.

(30:55):
And information just started todrop in.
And so I started to documentthese.
Things.
And I was like, oh, that'sreally interesting.
And I would just jokingly callit manure meditations.
And, but it felt so good that Iwas like excited to scoop poop
every day, like right, you know,running out before breakfast,
before coffee.

(31:15):
And then those downloads becamemore detailed, more elaborate.
Things started happening.
Like the messages that camethrough started like they were
premonitions for things.
And that's when I realized and,and, and information started
coming through, you know, itsounds like my own inner voice,

(31:37):
but it was choosing the messageswere using vocabulary that are
not my own personal vocabulary.
So that was like the, what isthis?
Um.
And then I had some largerevents of deaths in my life.
So, uh, shortly after thisstarted.
And so the combination of thetwo really just kind of like

(31:59):
pulled the plug on my abilities.
And I had a lot of aha momentsrealizing that what I was
experiencing out in with thecows or the, the cattle was me,
psychic mediumship, theconnection whistle source.
So I still go out there everyday.

(32:20):
I still love it.
I messages still come through.
And now that I'm, I am like, allright, everybody, I'm here.
It's like going home andchecking your answering machine,
right?
Like, what did I miss while Iwas asleep or didn't miss, but
now I'm ready to hear and readyto receive now.
And it, it, it's all the time.
And I love it.
It's, it's wonderful.
It's beautiful.
I don't let anybody else scoopmanure.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09044 (32:43):
Oh wow.
That, that's quite a statementand I, I wonder if that's going
to change over time or I wonderif that's gonna be a, a thing
that you maintain.
And, and I, I still resonatewith so much of what you said.
Like, I'm up in the morning, I'mlooking forward to going out and
changing the duck water checkingon, uh, we have

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (33:01):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0 (33:02):
heifer calf.
She was our little surpriseGracie, and she's actually three
months old today.
every

allison-peterson_1_07-10-20 (33:10):
Oh.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09044 (33:10):
I, I look forward to, to going out
and saying hi to the ducks,saying hi to, to Gracie, opening
up the chicken coop.
We have a, we have chicken namedwho, who's always waiting at the
door, ready to get out firstthing in the morning.
we call it chores, but it'sreally.
It, it can be more than that ifyou allow it to be.

(33:32):
And, like, like most things inlife, it comes to, comes down to
your perspective and how youchoose to look at the
situations.
And yeah, on one hand it, itcould be a another job,
something that you really don'twant to do.
Or if you just kind of surrenderto it and, and go with it, it's
like, okay, this is what I'mdoing now.
it's not about adding more, it'susually.

(33:54):
99% of the time aboutsubtracting and taking away the,
the mental

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (34:01):
Yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09044 (34:01):
or the things that are potentially
blocking you or taking up spacethat that spirit would love to
come in and, and give you adownload into.
But when your cup is full,there's, there's no room for,
for anything to come in.
And I think most people arerunning with their cups flowing
over from just Instagram orYouTube or just things coming

(34:25):
in.
We're constantly, we allowourselves to be bombarded by
information and we don't havestrong boundaries around what
we're willing to let in.
And having personal, dedicated,quiet, meditative time and
space, that what is availablefor a lot of people, pretty much
everybody, so few peopleactually get to experience

(34:49):
because they don't.
that environment that, thatmental or create that
spaciousness in their life forthese things to be able to come
in.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-20 (34:59):
You hit on the, the two fullness of
our lives and our minds.
Um, I am currently writing amemoir of the first year of my
life, of my abilities,awakening, and the very
beginning of that you know, andthe, the world of psychic
abilities, mediumship abilities,and all of the, you know, woo

(35:22):
woo of it all.
I had no prior experience orknowledge or interest in it.
And so when I started scoopingthat manure and started
receiving these downloads, um, Istarted like kind of checking
into it with some friends that Ihad and just like, you know, the
internet and, um, the internettold me about the Full Moon
being a time to let go ofsomething.

(35:45):
And this was.
Had a really pivotal moment ofmy life.
Um, my mother was about to pass.
I had a lot, like, there was alot of shadow work in her thing,
just like everything coming to ahead.
And so I was like, all right,like, whatever, what, what's the
worst that could happen if I dothis full moon?
Like, I look at the moon and Ilet something go, right?

(36:06):
And I imagined, like when I wentout and looked at the moon, I
had this visual of, um, like apie chart, right?
And my pie chart was totallyfull.
It was cram jammed, you know,100% full.
So what's that biggest wedge?
What wedge am I willing to justtake out and say like, I don't

(36:28):
need this anymore, and I'mgonna, and I like, imagine
myself giving this little wedgeto the moon.
And it was, I, I decided tochoose the biggest or most
difficult wedge.
That I've been carrying aroundwith for my whole entire life.
And, and it just, I didn't thinkthat was ever possible, but I
was like, I'll give this to themoon.

(36:49):
Whatever.
Right?
I gave that openness, right?
My, my pie wedge was ready toreceive something new and, you
know, all those scary to let goof something you've, that's
familiar, even though it's notbeneficial to you.
I just had to do it.
That, that, that boiling point,that crescendo, that like

(37:10):
something needed to happen.
And so I made that choice to letgo.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, it just started going fromthere.
Um, so I encourage, this isactually full moon tonight, by
the way, so I know it won't be,you know, next one.
Moon, every full moon doesn'thave to be a full moon.
Let go.
Like, if, if this interests you,just pick something.
Just imagine a little wedge andjust send it off.

(37:32):
Say thanks, and then goodbye.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09 (37:36):
Well, like that touched on something
for me and I think it'sfortuitous and I, and I, I.
F I'm feeling it, so I'm gonnashare it.
My partner

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (37:46):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (37:46):
plan tonight to go do a full moon
ritual of, of

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (37:51):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (37:51):
sort like you mentioned there.
And this, this has beensomething we've been planning
for at least a week and a half,something that we're

allison-peterson_1_07-1 (38:01):
Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09044 (38:02):
So the fact that you brought that
up, I don't think it's acoincidence.
And

allison-peterson_1_07-10-20 (38:08):
Mm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09 (38:09):
don't think it's a coincidence and
wow.
Uh,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-202 (38:15):
It is easy to take that little pie,
which, you know, like the onewith the line pointing to it.
'cause that wedge is so small,you're like, yeah, but like.
No take.
Take the big wedge, the biggestwedge.
You're like, no, I'm pretty surethat wedge is cemented here.
Nope, just, just, you got it.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09044 (38:33):
it just clicked with me what that
wedge is for me and.
I I, I'm feeling a bit emotionalright now and, and before we
were talking I was, I was goingthrough a bit of a process and
I, I typically meditate beforerecording one of these episodes
and was thinking about farmingand the, and the land that I'm
on, knowing that I'm gonna betalking to you and we're gonna
be, this is gonna be part of theconversation.

(38:56):
In the beginning you said youintroduce yourself as a farmer
first because people have a, apreconceived notion like that's
a, people kind of know what thatis.
And you mentioned there's like alogical person with the, their
hands in the dirt and people whoare connected with the earth and
people who care about nature.
When you said that, I realizedthat that is not my perception

(39:20):
of farming whatsoever.
It's actually the, the exactopposite of that.
I grew, I grew up in a.
On a commercial industrial farm.
Not a, not a big one.
And, I never saw logic in whatwe were doing.
I never saw connection.
I never, I never felt thatgrowing up.

(39:42):
And it was something that Iwanted so deeply.
But the, the, the way that, um,commercial industrial farming
has done, it, it's not that at,at all.
And there's a,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-20 (39:59):
no,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_ (39:59):
there's a

allison-peterson_1_07-10-202 (40:00):
at all.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09 (40:00):
wants to be proud of the, the, the
land and my community and, andwhere I'm from.
And there's also a part of mewho recognizes like, what's
happening with industrialagriculture is, is deeply
harmful.

allison-peterson_1_07 (40:16):
Horrific.
Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0904 (40:18):
not in, in accordance with nature.
The pesticides, the herbicides,the way animals are treated and
commoditized and, the piece ofthe pie chart that, that I need
to, to let go of is thispreconceived notion that it has
to be way and that that's whatfarming is.
'cause that, that was

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (40:38):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (40:39):
knew about farming from the time I
was, for as long as I canremember.
And I, I've internalized thatand, and have resisted the idea
of farming for a long timebecause that's what I associated
it with.
and

allison-peterson_1_07-10 (40:55):
Right.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448 (40:55):
a conflict in me and I, and I
think a lot of people feelconflicted about farming on one
hand.
On one hand, we wanna believethat farmers are doing the best
they can, and I believe thatpeople do the best they can with
the resources that they have.
the,

allison-peterson_1_07-1 (41:10):
Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0904 (41:11):
the people in my family, the
farmers, my grandfather, ourneighbors, they're incredibly
good people who want to dowhat's right and who believe
that they're doing what's right,and they're in a system that's
not set up for them to, to be,to be able to have

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (41:30):
Yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09 (41:30):
It's, yes, on, on one hand, they're
making a choice to, to be doingthe work that they're doing.
And has been something that'sbeen in motion, that they're
just kind of a cog in the wheel.
They're just going along doingwhat, the rest of the people
around them are doing, wantingto do the, the best that they
can.
And yeah.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025 (41:52):
I think you, you touch on a point
where, um, I agree everyone'strying to do their best.
But then on the flip side, youget hit with, well, that's the
way we've always done it.
And it takes, it takes somethingto change that.

(42:12):
And part of the reason why weenjoyed this property, I guess
disclaimer, we don't farm forprofit.
We are technically, you know, weare a homestead and we don't
sell anything.
There's just for a lot ofreasons we just, this is for
ourselves as sustain our family.
And so what we really enjoyedabout this property is it has
the land and space for animals,but it didn't have

(42:33):
infrastructure set up to handlethe animals in a certain way.
We re we got to handle them onour way.
I also think I have, uh, alittle bit of a unique
opportunity when I introducemyself as a farmer.
'cause usually what I hear is,you don't look like a farmer.
And then I get to say, yeah,well I'm not like I farm in a
different way.
And I get to use that as a segueinto education of how we can do

(42:58):
things differently.
And how different is not alwaysbad.
Different can be very good,different can be beneficial.
But when we're talking aboutcommercial farming, when it, you
know, millions of dollars formachines, subsidies, all of
these things.
Like we, we didn't wanna go infor profit'cause we didn't want

(43:21):
the red tape.
We really wanted to give, giveback.
Um, I know we, I'm very gratefulto be in that position that we
don't have to sell.
Um, we will be like, we'rebreeding our cattle, one for
milk Right.
But also so that we can sell it.
And that would be the extent ofit.
But I know it's just, it's, it'sa rock and a hard place to make

(43:43):
such a big change when, whenthere's so much restriction tied
on farms that get passed downgeneration to generation.
And I don't want to come acrossas like, that's something easy.
That's a easy hurdle to jumpover.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09 (43:59):
Yeah.
It, it's such a, a deep and

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (44:01):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09 (44:02):
topic and it's, you know, it's a part
of our, like like the, thefounding of America, America
was, the United States was, aswe know it today, I mean, there
were obviously people herebefore, and especially in the
area that I'm in, insouthwestern Minnesota, there is

(44:23):
a, a rich indigenous historyand, and culture.
And, and I like, I want toacknowledge that, and America as
we know it today, the countrythat it is, was founded by
people who, in large part likecame across and settled this
incredible land and, werefarmers and, without that cities

(44:46):
wouldn't be.
You wouldn't be able to have acity if there wasn't a, a food,
an external food supply being,being shipped in.
So lot of the, and for, forbetter or worse, that this
continent has experienced is, isas a result of the toil and hard
work of people who are willingto, to work with the land and

(45:09):
farm it and, and do thatagricultural labor and play that
role, which allows the, theflourishing of in industry and,
and all that comes along withthat.
And what about your story?
The thing that that is kind ofclicking with me is that you're,
you're moving in the oppositedirection.

(45:29):
Like you, you're from the, fromBoston to a

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (45:33):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (45:35):
away from the city.
You, you mentioned your memoir.
What was your experience like asyour, as you became aware of
your psychic abilities or asthese gifts started to become
more prominent?
I, I'd love to hear a little bitabout your story and how this,
this kind of began and startedto become more of a thing in

(45:59):
your life.

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (46:00):
Sure.
So, so focusing, yeah, more onthat psychic ability.
you know, it really started afew years prior in 2020 when my
grandfather passed and he wasreally my true connection with
nature.
He hunt, he fished, he, um,made, you know, was always in
his workshop making tools andcontraptions and, you know, you

(46:22):
name it, he did it.
And so I, some of my mostcherished experiences out in
nature were connected with him.
Um, so when he passed, um, I didhave a visit with him and that
was really wonderful.
And that was kind of the kickoffpoint of, oh, this.
Life after death.
Like that, that's a thing.
Like it's, it's not over then.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (46:43):
you, you,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-20 (46:43):
Um, and so, yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09044 (46:45):
he passed.
So when he was out.
Okay.
When

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (46:48):
Yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (46:48):
was, uh.

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (46:49):
Yeah.
Sorry.
I'm just like, kind of lowkeythrowing that in.
So, yes.
A, a couple of weeks after hehad passed, I woke up in my, my
bed.
My husband was still like, heloves to fall asleep at the, on
the couch before falling asleepupstairs, right?
So he wasn't in bed yet.
I turned over and, um, mygrandfather's silhouette is very
distinct with his nose and, youknow, just the shape of his

(47:11):
face.
So I very much saw him.
And, in his, later in his finalyears, his strength was
weakened.
And so instead of what we callthe big bear hug, right?
It feels like he's gonna crackall your ribs.
He would do a squeeze threetimes with the hand, you know,
the strongest he could get.
And so when I looked over in,uh, in the bed, I saw his

(47:33):
silhouette and I could feel hishands.
Um, you know, I could feel thewryness of an, the hair on his
knuckles and, and the, you know,they were large and I could just
feel the texture of his skin andI could feel that three hand
squeezes.
And so, and, and that was, andthat was the visit.
Um, and I, I was awake.

(47:54):
I was there like I know it, thatthat was him.
Um, I, I didn't try and deny it.
And he's, he's a very activeperson in spirit.
It's not just me.
Many members of my family.
Lots of different, yeah.
So, so I'm like, all right,yeah, I see you grandpa.
Like, and, and so he has been,he is not a guide, but he is,

(48:16):
you know, a past love on him.
And some of my guides havereally shown me how we work
through life, uh, how we movethrough life, how we move
through time.
And again, it's all thisinformation that came in and,
and like, makes logical sense tome and like, yeah, all right,
that checks out.
But that's not that I would'venever come up with on my own.

(48:36):
So from his death, that kind ofkicked it off.
And then my mother passed inSeptember of 2023.
And the connections with her,and the communications with her
undeniable, uh, the amount andother people witnessing it and
experiencing it.
And honestly, I went back andforth of like knowing deep in my

(48:58):
heart that this is absolutely100% true.
And the other half telling myhusband if he thought I needed
to be checked into a mentalfacility, that I trusted his
judgment more than mine at thismoment in time.
So that year so much growth inme, the, my ability to trust

(49:18):
myself, my ability to rememberand recall and just really not
gaslight myself anymore.
A lot of information came outabout the ability to zoom out
and really look at something,uh, all of these different
situations, not just from myAllison horse Blinder

(49:38):
perspective, but all differentperspectives and in that
ability, practicing it andworking with it, and now trying,
doing my very best to live thatway on a, on my, in my daily
life is that when you look at asituation, whether it's trauma
like.
I'm gonna just use trauma forthis conversation.

(50:00):
Very traumatic experiences.
We relive it in this sameperspective over and over and
over.
And if we zoom out a little bitand we're willing to look at it
from different angles and thinkabout that bigger reason of why
it might have happened or couldhave happened, or what was going
on for the other peopleinvolved, well then it starts

(50:21):
to, your perspective starts todissolve and it's just an event.
And now it's just rain.
Now it's just information, uh,going back to our, the beginning
of this conversation.
And so really my memoir istaking multiple traumatic events

(50:41):
in my life that are quiterelatable, unfortunately, to the
majority of people everywhere,and giving this deep vulnerable.
Play by play of working it outand zooming out and looking at
it in different perspectives tobe able to heal from it.

(51:02):
And the more you do, the more Idid that, the more my ability
just kept stronger and higherand more.
I'm so grateful for it.
It was the hardest year of mylife.
I have never cried harder.
I have never felt more confused.
I have never felt more alone andnot alone at the same time.

(51:24):
Um, and so yeah, now I am, um,let's see.
August will be two years for meof, of my spiritual awakening.
And in this second year, I cansay that now with this, um,
firm, confidence in myself, firmconfidence in my ability, no
longer willing to potentiallygaslight my it, is that real?

(51:45):
Is that not Life is so much morericher and makes so much more
sense?
And I, I, I'm, I'm so gratefulfor scooping manure.
so, and, and then when Ibelieved in myself, right, I
stopped trying to gaslightmyself.
Then I was able to providereadings in this same sort of
insight for other people.

(52:05):
You know, first starting withfamily members, then like
distant friends, and now forcomplete strangers, that book
readings with me, and that feelsreally good.
And that feels like thesymbiotic relationship that I
want to have with my fellowhumans.
And I love it.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09044 (52:21):
So a, an interesting paradox there
or sort of paradox, and it'ssomething that we again talked
about earlier in theconversation about that gaining
an ability doesn't mean you needto do more.
It's it's doing less.
And as you were talking thereabout zooming out, I, I kind of
perceive that as you werelearning how to disidentify the

(52:46):
personal Alice Allison withlike.
Yeah, you, you were, you werelearning to take a, larger view
and, and see things from aperspective that maybe is not
from right behind your eyes.
It's not the, it's a,

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (53:00):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-20 (53:00):
egocentric perspective and, and gaining the
ability to, to look at, atthings as more of an observer
without, without having so muchattachment to the outcome or, or
the, the ideas of Allison orthe, the memories of Allison,
but, but gaining a, a maybe moreobjective or just a nuanced

(53:22):
perspective on, on situationsthat you lived through and had a
lived experience of, but thenwere able to derive new meaning
from, given the differentperspective.
And I.
The, I think that the term, the,the phrase bypassing, I feel

(53:43):
like is getting thrown around alot now.
And like I could see howsomebody might, I might label
what you described as bypassing,choosing to look at your lived
experience through, through adifferent lens, as if that is a
form of not acknowledging what'sactually going on or trying to,

(54:07):
create something that's notthere or give that situation
meaning that it didn'tinherently have.
So, I, I, I'm curious aboutyour, you know, as you're
evolving, it sounds like you'restill, I think we all, we're all
in a process of life.
It sounds like you're still inthis process of, of getting more
clear and learning especially ifyou're doing readings, it means
you are more so in the observerposition.

(54:29):
You're, you're less identifiedwith the ego and, uh, a strong
sense of self and, and able toconnect with other senses of
self.
So like, what, what, what wouldyou say to somebody who's maybe
never had that experience of,you know, allowing yourself to
maybe not clinging so tightlyto, to who you think you are or

(54:50):
the, the thoughts you have aboutyourself.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025 (54:54):
I don't think we have to put a
trigger warning about this, butI would say many of, of what I,
things that I worked, traumaticevents I worked through, it's
still working through.
'cause if you're not working onit like you are, right?
Like, just, just wait, take abreath.
Blink and you'll see that youstill have more to do.
Many different about all of thedifferent types of abuse

(55:16):
experience thoroughly in mylife.
And so I let that define me in alot of ways as a survivor of
this one, that one, that one,that one, that one.
And I realized I, I don't wantto be labeled like we, we carry

(55:37):
our labels like badges as a waythat we can relate to each
other.
And I get that because it feelslike a sense of community.
And for many years I did thatmajority of my life, almost my
entire life.
Right.
And so I see it like the visualthat comes to me right now to
explain it is you think of likethose big onesies, like the

(55:58):
hooded onesies.
It's a big zip up, right?
And you just see my face andyou, I've got this one Z on.
Um, and it looks like that'spart of me.
It's covering every, every inchof my body except for my face.
And maybe it's like one of thosereally fuzzy ones and you don't
really see that there's a zipperand you don't think you could
ever get out of it.
I can't put my head through thearm hold.

(56:19):
I can't.
Right.
There's no way to get out of it.
It's just part of me.
Okay, whatever.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09044 (56:23):
as like a Teletubby.
Like your face on a,

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (56:26):
Yeah, yeah.
You

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448 (56:28):
a tell the tubby body.

allison-peterson_1_07-1 (56:29):
choose, choose whatever full body suit
you want me to be in at thismoment in time.
But when you realize thatthere's a zipper there and you
can unzip it, maybe it's in theback, maybe it's, you know,
maybe in the front it's a littlebit easier to see.
Maybe it's in the back and youjust felt like something hitting
and you're curious enough topull it down and see what's

(56:51):
really there.
So when I see.
Uh, my, my biggest wedge of mymoon, right, was my biggest,
earliest traumatic experience.
And when I was willing to zipthis, this survivor, this victim
of this experience, and removeit from me, and then I just see

(57:13):
it laying there on the floor andI'm like, oh, that wasn't me.
This is me.
This was just something that wasvery closely connected to me
for, it wasn't even connected.
It was just hanging on me.
And so just acknowledging thatthese experiences are
experiences, I, yes, they happento me.

(57:35):
I am not them, and they are notme in something that my
therapist helped me and she toldme about the, the, your cells
turnover every seven years.
So every seven years you'rephysically a new person.
She's like, this, what happenedto you back then?
That's not even who you are now.

(57:56):
And something that I recentlyrealized is, um, you know, for
homesteaders, they talk aboutthat seven year mark of like
you've, and so I think about theturning over and regeneration of
the land and your efforts andyour whole way of living changes
and somehow in the same amountof time that that cell turnover
happens in your own physicalbody.

(58:16):
And isn't that funny?
And so I just think about it asa process that you need to
start.
It's not easy.
It's not enjoyable in a lot ofparts.
I could have stayed in that, Icould have kept my little onesie
on of like the victim hood andeverybody was like, I also am a
victim of this thing.

(58:37):
I too have this outfit on, but Iwould like to just get to know
the real me.
And so I was willing to do that.
So I feel more like bypassingwould be to keep that label or
badge a victim or survivor on.
I feel like that's bypassing.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0904 (58:54):
and I think that's of why I felt
like it was paradoxical, likegetting, letting go of it is
actually completing a processand, going through the entire
process of whatever that was.
and finally letting go of it islike having the full experience,
whereas, so you're not bypassingit, you're this.

(59:17):
I think what a lot of peopleperceive as, or label as
bypassing just the completion ofa process and no longer
identification with it.
It's like, no, you're, yeah,that thing happened, am, I'm not
that thing.
I'm, bypassing it.
I'm just done with it.
I've learned what I needed tolearn.
I don't necessarily need, youknow, whatever that, that thing

(59:39):
that was on me, that, thatexperience, that, that
self-identification

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (59:43):
Yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0904 (59:43):
not necessary at

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (59:44):
yeah, Yeah.
I know.
I am more than that.
I know I am more than just afarmer.
I know I'm more than just amother, a psychic medium, a
victim or a survivor.
Those are just experiencesversus this is me.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (59:59):
When it comes to that, this is me
part,

allison-peterson_1_07-1 (01:00:02):
Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0904 (01:00:03):
any practices or mindsets or any
tangible.
Things that, that, that you'vedone or that somebody else can
do help realize that, you know,this is me beneath all of the
layers of trauma and, and labelsand, and identification.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2 (01:00:23):
This is new territory for me.
So, as you know, it's veryrecent in my journey, so I will
do the best I can to describehow it feels for me.
One as cliche as it sounds, ismy inside my inner monologue, my
inner thoughts are matching whatI'm comfortable speaking and

(01:00:47):
doing.
Uh, you know, my inner worldmatches my outer world, um, for
many years, majority of my life,right?
I always felt like I was toomuch for people and kept so much
of that hidden and repressed.
And it feels like if you feellike you have to hide part of
yourself, I think taking areally good look at why you feel

(01:01:08):
that way, because it's probablynot something that you decided,
it was probably an experiencethat you had that made you say,
okay, I realize it's not safe todo this anymore.
It's not safe to speak this way,look this way, behave this way.
I need to close that.

(01:01:29):
And so just take a, a big hardlook in the way.
If it's meditation, if it's, uh,therapy, if it's, uh,
journaling, like whatever feelsgood, if it's just walking out
in nature and just letting theplates tell you, um, whatever,
whatever suits you, figure outwhy you feel like you can't have

(01:01:51):
that internal factor, match yourexternal life.
I think that's the, that's thebiggest one because now I don't
feel the need to censor myselfanymore.
And that has been reallyfreeing.
It was very scary at first,right?
There was, I didn't tell anyonebesides my inner circle about

(01:02:15):
these psychic mediumshipabilities for the first year and
a half-ish, uh, year.
I don't know if I have, if I'vedepart, went down a different
path too much from your originalquestion, but inner world
meeting, outer world, and thisis a fluid, there's no barrier
here.
There's not like gates that needto open and shut.

(01:02:36):
It's just freely moving back andforth.
There's no boundary anymore thatI, that I put up that I decided
I needed to put up.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090 (01:02:44):
Wow.
Thank you for sharing that.
Let's see.
A perspective and something Ihadn't really or, or just hadn't
really thought about in thatway, I've thought about it in
different ways, but the, the waythat you articulated that was,
was something I had, I had notheard before and is kind of
expanding my, my perception of,and how I think about

(01:03:05):
authenticity and just beingyourself by allowing those, in,
identifying those internalboundaries and barriers that,
that we ourselves either put upor agree to, and, and really
examining them and seeing isthis really in alignment?
Is this preventing me from, fromhaving that, you know, that that

(01:03:25):
alignment between the externalworld and the internal world and
recognizing that if there's adissonance there, it's going to
manifest in our lives in someway.
That's probably, uh.
Yeah.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025 (01:03:37):
I am savory.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09 (01:03:38):
Yeah.
Probably unsavory.
Yeah.
That, that's a, that's a greatword to use.
Allison, this has been, anincredible conversation.
Thank you so much for, fortaking the time to chat with me.
I'm sure there are gonna bepeople who,

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (01:03:54):
Thank you for having me.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0904 (01:03:56):
I'm sure there are gonna be people
who want to learn more aboutwork and the, the services that
you provide in your psychicmediumship.
I, I know you're not sellingeggs at this point, but maybe in
the future that'll be,

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (01:04:09):
Yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0 (01:04:10):
people will want to know where your
farm stand is, but, you know, interms of people, you know,
wanting to inquire about havinga session with you or learning
more about, how, how you helppeople, uh, how can people get
ahold of you.

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (01:04:22):
sure.
Um, I'm on Instagram.
Little, little less than normalright now because I'm out in the
garden and not on the computer.
You can find me.
My name on Instagram is BrainWiggle, and my website is brain
wiggle.com.
I offer psychic readings,psychic mediumship readings, and
I also do intuitive businessconsultations.

(01:04:43):
So that's why I do a little bitof a psychic connection,
energetic connection with you.
So I use this part of, you know,one side of, uh, my skills to
help tap into what's holding up,uh, your business.
And then I use my formerexperience in strategic
communications and strategicplanning to help figure out,

(01:05:05):
okay, we've identified what'swhat's in the way, and let's
work on order of operations ina, a logical, analytical,
fiscally responsible way toachieve those goals for your
company's highest and greatestgood.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0 (01:05:18):
That's awesome and I, I feel like there
are more and more people whoare.
beginning to recognize that our,mind, body, and spirit are all
interconnected.
Our business and our vocation,our work life is intimately
connected with, uh, our physicalhealth and our spiritual health.
So finding a place where you

allison-peterson_1_07-10-20 (01:05:39):
So,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_ (01:05:39):
address both of those areas at the same
time is probably going to giveus a more holistic view and a, a
clearer picture of the tangiblethings that we can do that are
gonna really move the needle inour business and get, get us to
progress in the way that notonly feels good, but is, um,
responsible.

(01:06:00):
As you say, it's, it's a, it allworks together rather than just
trying to level up one area ofour life while I, while not

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (01:06:09):
yeah, God raise everything together.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_0904 (01:06:11):
all the

allison-peterson_1_07-10- (01:06:12):
Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09 (01:06:12):
like, no, if we look at all these
things and try to try to.
Bring balance and, and

allison-peterson_1_07-10-202 (01:06:19):
I.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09044 (01:06:19):
up simultaneously.
That's going to be a, a betterapproach and a sustainable way
to, to progress and, and buildthe kind of thriving and
abundant lives that we want.

allison-peterson_1_ (01:06:31):
Absolutely.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09 (01:06:32):
thank you so much.
Uh, I feel like we could talk,we could talk shop for a long
time and, and I hope that we cansomeday in the future have
another conversation.
I'd, I'd love to hear about the,the progress on both fronts on
your farm and, uh, on yourpsychic mediumship journey at
some point in the future.
And I'm sure, I'm sure you'llhave a lot of stories to tell.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-20 (01:06:54):
Oh, I'm sure it will be my pleasure.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_09 (01:06:56):
Thank you so much, Allison.