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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Dover Blitz as historians on edge as the East Wing
comes down in DC plus, we have some funny one liners.
Thanks to all of you and your hilarious jokes. We're
going to go to the Zinger Zone coming up a
little bit later in the show. But first, as always,
we kick it off with the rundown, no end in

(00:36):
sights with the government shut down. The Senate failed to
advance the House pass funding bill that would end the
government shut down for the twelfth time on Wednesday. There
was even a marathon speech by Democratic Senator Jeff Merkley
from Oregon. What's marathon? Twenty two hours, thirty seven minutes.
So the vote was fifty four to forty six. You
know the math. Sixty is what you need to move forward.

(00:59):
The Democrats voted with Republicans to move the bill forward
three only no new Democrats crossed the aisle. Here's the
president on let's get this government moving.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
We will not be extorted on this crazy plot of this.
They've never done this before, nobody has. You always vote
for an extension, Chuck Schumer and the Senate Democrats need
to vote for the clean bipartisan cr and reopen our
Government's going to be reopened right now, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
I have a countdown clock in my house twenty two days,
six minutes, forty three seconds.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, and it's not funny.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
People are not getting paid air traffic controllers CSA. They
are so grumbly, But I don't blame them. And you
think about what happens in the towers, ay yai, people
traveling coming up the busiest travel time of the year.
October really is the talent of October is when it
spikes up thanks Giving, all the holidays. So October, November, December,

(02:04):
all I can say is yikes, yikes, and yikes. Jolanda
Jones I caught her on one of the networks today
Texas House of Representatives. She's running hard on the Democratic
side to snag a US House seat, and she says
it's about the poor people getting screwed.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Poor people.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
All they want is for us to fight. So if
you hit me in my face, I'm not gonna punch
you back in your face. I'm gonna go across your
neck because we can go back and forth fighting each
other's faces. You've got to hit hard enough where they
won't come back. And so yeah, for the same way
I went to New York and spoke with Governor Kathy
Hockel and said, if they're gonna try to wipe us

(02:45):
out in Texas, we need to wipe out every Republican
in New York, in California, in Illinois. So no one
can make me feel bad about fighting for the people
that I represent, because the people that I represent need
someone was willing to go in the ring and fight
for them. And that's exactly what I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Do, all right.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
So once again, nothing is happening. It's all stalled, and
it doesn't look like anything different is going to happen.
I was listening today to Republican Rep. Mike Simpson from Idaho.
He's the chairman of the subcommittee that oversees appropriations for
the Interior Department. So think parks, and he said, families
who have vacation plans are canceling their trips because of

(03:26):
the shutdown. And you bet, because there's reduced staffs, there's
having problem with litter pile up. The parks are being affected,
and the longer that continues, the more of course that
will be affected. They're trying to keep the parks open
and they didn't do that in the past. During the
Obama administration of twenty thirteen, they had to close the parks.

(03:47):
So that hasn't happened, but pretty soon they're going to
have to make some kind of a decision.

Speaker 6 (03:52):
There, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
So the East wing is being torn down. It's really
demolished on the completely. On the one side, the ballroom
that's being built. Has some people applauding the president, of course,
others attacking him, saying they're ripping away history. Here's what
Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson says about the project.

Speaker 7 (04:15):
President Trump's gonna I had the greatest improvement to the
White House in the history of the building since since
it was originally constructed in eighteen hundred.

Speaker 8 (04:22):
The ballroom is going to be glorious. It's going to
be used for everybody.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Shall done.

Speaker 9 (04:32):
On a bright cloud of music?

Speaker 10 (04:34):
Shall we fly?

Speaker 11 (04:37):
Shall we done?

Speaker 12 (04:39):
Shall we then say good night and mean goodbye?

Speaker 1 (04:45):
All right? So, just so he knows, the ballroom is
not being funded by taxpayers. The ballroom is being funded
by the President and other individuals.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
It's private donations.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
So like Amazon, Lockheed Martin, they're just some of the names.
The donations go through this thing called the Trust for
the National mar I'm all rather a nonprofit that helped
manage federal projects like the one of the Washington Monument.
Remember that was slammed by an earthquake in twenty eleven
and there's cracks in it.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
So that's what happened there.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
And it's going to be a full scale teardown of
the east wing because that's the only thing they can do.
They can't put this ballroom in right if they don't
do that, And it's going to see I guess about
one thousand people. The potential is to see a thousand people.
So this is now moving forward, right, This is moves forward,

(05:44):
and it's funded privately, it's not funded.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
By the tax payers.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
In the meantime, we have weather to be aware of,
and that is Melissa. So yeah, tropical storm officially, but
getting close to being called a hurricane, and you know,
all bets are off when it becomes a hurricane. It's
kind of taking its time. Melissa is lumbering through the

(06:13):
Caribbean islands, so there's a lot of rain that's happening there,
especially Jamaica and some other of the islands that are
right in there. The track is uncertain at this point,
you know, The big question Floridians are saying is are
we going to see this in Florida on what coast

(06:33):
is it going to be on if it does move
towards the US. But even in Miami they were saying
no direct impacts are expected to South Florida, but you've
got to monitor it.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
We don't know this for sure.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Right it's not projected to hit the mainland, but it's
not consolidated yet. Because the circles getting a little bit bigger,
Melissa will become a hurricane by Saturday morning. And that's
what you got to look for. You got to look
for how slow is the dance, what happens in the atmosphere,

(07:05):
and does it make any kind of a of a turn.
But the Dominican Republic and parts of Haiti and Jamaica,
like I said, they're gonna get massive rain, gonna have
to worry about flooding. That's a very very big possibility there.
Puerto Rico could be spared a little bit, but they're
probably going to see a couple of inches of rain.
Maybe in the really low lying areas, they could get

(07:28):
some flooding. And it's that I mean, it's that time
of year unfortunately where when we look at the weather
and you know, this is hurricane time, and this is
the time for hurricanes, and it can strike certain areas
of the US and we've seen how damaging that was
last year, or even places that they didn't expect it

(07:51):
got slammed by it. So that's the other side of it.
If you you know, if you, if you will, all right?
Also throwing this in, and the US military strikes two
boats in the Pacific in another expansion of the campaign
against alleged drug trafficking.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Wow, if you look at.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
The video, go and look at the video, whatever your
search engine is, and it looks like a video game
when you watch it. So all people on board, of course,
were killed. And it's the eighth and ninth known strikes.
At least thirty seven people in total have been killed
in the nine strikes. What Pete Hegsept, the Secretary of Defense,

(08:31):
is saying, is narco terrorist intending to bring poison to
our shores. We'll find no safe harbor anywhere in our hemisphere.
Coming up next, you want to laugh, You sent me
a whole bunch of one liners, and we're going into
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Speaker 1 (12:11):
All right, we are going into the zinger zone thanks
to all the one liners you have been sending me.
If you have a funny joke, even if it's seriously
a cornball, we like them. All send them to me
Kate at katedalaneyradio dot com. Click on contact and send
it there. Write me a couple of jokes would be funny.
And we've done it once before, so this is the

(12:32):
second time. That we have gone to the listener. Well,
and we start with Mac, who says, what did the
tomato say to the other tomato during a race?

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Catch up?

Speaker 6 (12:51):
I like that one.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Here's another one from Kevin, who says, what runs Kate
but never goes anywhere?

Speaker 3 (12:59):
A fridge?

Speaker 6 (13:06):
All right?

Speaker 3 (13:06):
This one is from Alice.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
She says, Hey, I'm listening to you and Klis in
Saint louis cool and she's nice.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Not everybody told me where they were from, but anyway,
she says, why do seagulls fly over the sea, Katie?

Speaker 3 (13:24):
If they flew over the bay, they would be bagels?
All right.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Joe also told us that he's in Salt Lake City
and listens to us on KSL.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Do you get some fanfare there? I'm not so sure.
He says.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
I got this one from my kid, Kate. What do
you call an alligator? Detective? An investigator? All right? This
one is from Chris, and Chris listens to us in Connecticut,
So that would be w that would be oh, that

(14:05):
would be WCGH in Connecticut, and it's WGH by the way,
fourteen ninety am. And Chris says she transposed that. Chris

(14:25):
says Kate. I was thinking of jokes and I wanted
to make them kind of match the mood for where
we are. So what kind of ghost has the best hearing,
the eeriest? After all that, Chris, after all that, look
what he gives you. I'm not in charge of deciding
what's funny. It's the studio. It's the Minnesota two, or

(14:49):
at least the Minnesota one. Jason, how it says? Hey, Kate,
I was racking my brain trying to come up with
some funny things, and I wanted to be kind of
on target for what's coming up holiday wise. If athletes
get athletes foot, what do elves get missile toes?

Speaker 3 (15:17):
All right? This one's from.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Peta and Peter is listening to us in the desert.
K vo I that would be in Tucson. The lady,
you're a coffee drinker. What do you call a sad
cup of coffee? Dupresso?

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Oh? I like it?

Speaker 1 (15:46):
All right? This one is from Keith Kate. This is
Forginness and you what kind of dog tells time? A watchdog?

Speaker 6 (16:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
You guys are funny. You're cracking me up. You're cracking
me up. Okay, so let's see Let's go to sal
who says, Kate, we love you in Louisiana. I'm listening
to you in Lafayette on ninety eight point five FM.
He said, I got this from my son the other day.

(16:25):
I heard you say you need wanted jokes, and I
was taking them to kindergarten. So I'm just prepping you
for that. Why was the room late for work, daddy?
He said, it overswept. I love that your kids got involved.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Nice, nice, nice, nice nice.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
All right, let's go to another one. This one is
from Harry, and Harry says, Kate, what do you call
a cow with no legs ground beef?

Speaker 3 (16:59):
I think that's pretty clever. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (17:01):
I think it's good.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
All right. How about this one something about animals? All right?

Speaker 1 (17:07):
This one is from Pammy, who says, Kate, I'm getting
in on the action of the one liners. My grandchildren
tell me some funny things. And I got this one
from Devin, my youngest granddaughter.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
The other day.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
She said, Grandma, did you hear about the evil hen?
It was known for laying deviled eggs, and it's pretty good.
I wonder how she got she must know deviled eggs.
I mean that's pretty clever putting that together, I would say, right,

(17:41):
all right, I like this one a lot. This one
is from Chloe, who says, Kate, what do you call
an angry carrot esteamed vegetable?

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Of course? All right.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
This one comes to us from Anne, who is listening
to us in California, casey aa, and she says again
something about animals. What do you call a cow with
two legs? Kate lean beef?

Speaker 9 (18:27):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (18:27):
I love that, so many people do.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
And I've been collecting these, you know, so I've been
collecting them.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
All right.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
This one is from Jack, and Jack says, Kate, what
does spies do when they're cold? They go under cover?
All right, I'm gonna make this one the last one.
The last one is this one from Helen, who says,

(18:57):
notice all the women getting in on this. She says, Kate,
why did the photo go to jail? Because it was framed? Nice? Nice,
nice hey, Thank you everybody for sending me those jokes.
I might be able to, you know, remember a couple
of them. It's tough, you got to, you know. It's

(19:18):
the pump bomb punch or the one punch. That's why
I like the That's why I like the one liners
that you throw into the middle of Comedians do that sometimes,
if you notice, they throw it into the middle of sets,
if you will, all right, I thought we would throw
in since we don't have a man cave this time around,
I thought I would throw in a couple of scores
for you, because you know, this is the second night

(19:40):
of the NBA. The Spurs beat the Mavericks one twenty
five to ninety two, and Vic the Stick put up
forty points, very dominant in that win over the Mavericks.
So Maverick fans couldn't have been too excited about that
bumber so early.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
In the season.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
I mean, this is this is just too early to
play anything out and make any wild predictions. The Knicks
at home beat the Cavaliers one nineteen to one to eleven.
The Hornets racked up a bunch of points over the Nets.
The final score at the buzzer there one thirty six,
one seventeen. Another close game was the Magic. The Magic

(20:26):
beat the Heat one twenty five to one twenty one.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Interesting there was Franz Wagner. I like him.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
He's a really good forward and he had twenty four points.
A bunch of really key rebounds. I saw a few
highlights of this four rebound, six assists. That's plus plus
plus in my book, especially from from where he is.
The Raptors had an easy time on the road against
the Hawks one thirty eight to one eighteen, and you

(20:59):
get they spread the ball around, but Scottie Barnes ended
up with twenty two points and six boards and nine
assists in that in that win. The seventy six ers,
this might be one of the best ones. I might
have buried the lead. Seventy six ers on the road
against the Celts, no love loss there. Seventy six Ers
knocked off the Celts one seventeen, one sixteen.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
There's some interesting highlights in that one.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
And the Bulls at home beat the Pistons one fifteen
to one eleven. That came down to the waning moments. Hey,
the Pelican fans, you know, they didn't look bad in
this one against Memphis, but they didn't win one twenty
eight one twenty two.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
They lost that one.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
One of my favorite players, and of course, I mean,
is he not the best with that big wide smile
and just what he can do is Ion Williamson. He
is one of the best forwards two in the league
twenty seven points nine boards, five assists in the losing effort.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
He's fun to watch. I've seen him play a couple
of times in person. The Bucks do what the Bucks do.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
They picked up the win a big one over the Wizards,
one thirty three to one. Twenty Jazz. We got the
jazz fans listening. Jazz beat the Clippers home opener one
twenty nine to oneh eight. How about Walker Kessler Big
Center twenty two points nine boards and four assists.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Author's Corner coming up.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Doug McCulloch in Ireland joins us, and Brandy Kabick joins us.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Too as well, to close out the hour.

Speaker 6 (22:56):
On the show office Corner.

Speaker 10 (22:59):
She still.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
We take you to Northern Ireland for this version of
Author's Corner for a conversation with Douglas McCulloch his book. Oh,
I'm such a poetry fan and his book is so good.
Poetry matters right, what you don't know can hurt you,
and it's so lovely and he's such an interesting background.

(23:24):
He's written two economic books. He taught economics and he
put this book together with really some interesting ideas and
what he wrote about I think is what really pulled
me in, and I think it'll pull you in absolutely
too as well. So Doug, thank you so much for
coming on the show.

Speaker 10 (23:44):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Let's talk about First of all, let's talk about your background.
I threw out the fact that you were I mean here,
you are a numbers guy. You wrote two economic books,
and you taught economics. When did the love for poetry
come in?

Speaker 12 (23:59):
And I was a young, love lord youth in nineteen
Oh god, how should I say?

Speaker 10 (24:05):
Should I tell anybody this?

Speaker 12 (24:07):
When I was nineteen sixty six or sixty five, I
was introduced to poetry writing as a part of the
school subject, and I find it very difficult to stop.
It's just it's a way of making sense, which I
value very highly.

Speaker 10 (24:24):
It like that.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
There you go. What was it that motivated you to
write this book?

Speaker 10 (24:33):
Well, I've had some.

Speaker 18 (24:37):
Good experiences with my students, and I felt that some
important lessons were not being got across for obviously for.

Speaker 12 (24:49):
Adult and normal and business reasons. Nobody, I'm not blaming anyone,
but I felt, as a mature person, and having knocked
around a bit and being in various interesting questions from
time to time, that I could perhaps observe and conclude

(25:09):
and perhaps convey some aspects of how the world actually works.
When there's one, there's one. There's one in the book
called the Savage Managers bear Witnesses. That word bear is
a verb, and it's about, well, when you go into
and when you when you go into a fart into

(25:30):
a job, you may find that the person you're supposed
to be looking after you and just it's actually a
bit of a nasty person. And how do you deal
with that? If you do something wrong and they'd start
to go after you, what do you do? Well, it's okay.

Speaker 10 (25:48):
It happens.

Speaker 12 (25:49):
And the poet tries to get a sense of perspective,
a realistic sense of perspective.

Speaker 10 (25:56):
You can't say to people, oh the low will look
after you, Oh.

Speaker 12 (26:00):
The justice will be done. It doesn't always happen. That's
what I mean when I say that the book perhaps
supplies some useful questions. It certainly is not a wonderful
source of enormous and wonderful answers. It does have some

(26:20):
of that, but the questions I think are more important.
And young people are not slow either. They know what
the score is and it doesn't take much for them
to bed these ideas into their own outlooks, and I hope,

(26:42):
I humbly hope that some of these will actually be
useful to them in their own careers.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, your poetry isn't that lyrical type of poetry, if
you will, But it's an illuminator. There is definitely room
for it, and you tackle different things like I say,
dead and you, and it's easy to follow along. There
are sort of lessons wrapped into this. And is that
a good description?

Speaker 12 (27:08):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (27:08):
Yes, yes, that's that's that's that's actually meant. That's intentional.

Speaker 6 (27:13):
Yes, yeah, wow.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
And I asked you a tough question, but I wanted
you to pick out one of your favorite poems and
it would be so wonderful if you recited that for us.

Speaker 10 (27:25):
Well, this is called Sam Johnson's Buddhas. Sam Johnson was.

Speaker 19 (27:29):
An intellectual of the seventeenth century who wrote the first
English dictionary, and it was a towering presence in a
country which which paid him little attention at all. But
he had an eye for humanity and an intellect, an
intellect which is the most powerful of his day.

Speaker 12 (27:52):
And as as I said in my own distant and
insignificant way, this is a compliment.

Speaker 20 (28:01):
Sam Johnson's Sam Johnson's Boozers. There is no end to
the lead of self knowledge. Here is infinity.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
Drink what you will.

Speaker 10 (28:16):
To know who you are is to.

Speaker 12 (28:18):
Tremble and courage, to stand, reach out and drink your health.
Let the world go to Hell's never what's saying a
ball of clay mud galaxy is wrong?

Speaker 10 (28:32):
But we stayed watch for daybreak and our offspring's first
gleaming red briars, flower by cans and a dump.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Wow, you know what the again? You tell the story,
you set us up for the story. You tell the story,
and you found the right words. Was that part of
the challenge of writing the book?

Speaker 10 (29:04):
I suppose the book of many?

Speaker 12 (29:07):
Could I just finish it? I've just found it. Sure,
never give up if you choke, keep on drinking. The
Vision's torment and other advices are ry. Sam Johnson's Bruges
see clear.

Speaker 17 (29:21):
In the morning.

Speaker 10 (29:23):
Of their liquor. We'll never learn that.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
There's the hashtag will never run dry.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Such a good description, like a little history lesson sort
of wrapped into that. And it is, like I said,
finding the right words is what I think it feels
like to me. And and that would be maybe the
challenging part about writing the book, and also to be
kind of respectful, if you will, the individuals or whatever
the Crisises are and whatever their stories are, is that

(29:57):
kind of is that kind of what it was like?

Speaker 10 (30:00):
Well?

Speaker 12 (30:00):
They I was trying to read from my own experience
and work out what might be relevant, what might be well,
and also the issues that are important to me. I've
got stuff in there about economic development. I mean, we
the clever, rich white men once who are colorful natives,
singing contented around our own heartstones. We have since followed

(30:23):
our followed our cleverness elsewhere.

Speaker 19 (30:26):
Made made, made a parent of progress and slowly infected
the spleen of mankind.

Speaker 10 (30:35):
And that's about the quickest description of the processes of
economic development. And it is something that is very much
part of our lives.

Speaker 12 (30:46):
I mean, to some extent we are by our lives
at the expense of the poor world.

Speaker 10 (30:52):
That's something we need to face up to. It's not
it's not it can't go on, not not forever. And
well that's that, and that's sort of. There are big lessons,
and they.

Speaker 12 (31:03):
Are small ones, but the big obviously, the big ones
are most important and Uh, and it's it's the students
are fighting their way through a morass of complicated in
ticket and sometimes I'm not understandable features and they're doing

(31:23):
the best, and they're maybe maybe this with without actually
expecting anything problem. It's without actually telling them what to do.
I think. I like to think I'm trying to help
to think about what they're facing and perhaps come to
their own conclusions. That their own conclusions are the ones

(31:46):
that really matter.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, And it's a different world right with AI and
all the things that have to be navigated.

Speaker 10 (31:54):
Absolutely, Yeah, But there are all sorts of hope with
in the situation because the.

Speaker 12 (32:00):
Technologies that we are worried about are adaptable and intelligent
people and why people will always i think, be able
to plan away provided that the climate, the climate doesn't
give up with us.

Speaker 10 (32:14):
But that's that's another story.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, for you, after doing this book, does it make
you want to does it make you want to do
another one?

Speaker 10 (32:25):
I I'd like, I'd like.

Speaker 12 (32:28):
My idea is I want I want the students to
I want people to read the poetry.

Speaker 10 (32:34):
I don't necessarily want them to pay me for it.

Speaker 12 (32:37):
And if I could get them to read it without
getting the money, and that doesn't that that's fine for me.

Speaker 10 (32:42):
I'm happy.

Speaker 12 (32:42):
I'd be happy with that because it would be mean
that the ideas were getting out and.

Speaker 10 (32:47):
People were sharing them.

Speaker 21 (32:49):
And I have to say that because I've organized a
couple of readings and I was you would I never
expected to be so uplifted by the positive response of
I don't mean I don't mean cheering or clapping.

Speaker 22 (33:04):
I just mean people took the people took the ideas
seriously and consider them carefully and asked excellent questions.

Speaker 10 (33:15):
That's to me, that's everything about it.

Speaker 12 (33:20):
If we have conversations going, if we get able to
entertain these ideas, even if they don't buy the bloody book,
I don't care so long as they stake more, so
long as we gets song, as we improve the way
that people into that with this wonderful but difficult world
that we live in.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Oh, perfect place to end this, What a beautiful sentiment.
The name of the book poetry matters, right, Douglas McCulloch.
You can get the book on Amazon for a song
Kindle version. It's less than fifteen bucks to get the
paperback and it is really an eye opener and it
gets you to think.

Speaker 6 (33:56):
I mean, you absolutely nailed it. Doug.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
You thank you so much for coming on.

Speaker 10 (34:00):
I'm glad you're very much for how reason all.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Right, we take you from the poetry of Doug McCulloch
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into that dealing with a mental illness and what happens

(34:25):
with the people around you when you lose your children.

Speaker 6 (34:29):
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Speaker 1 (38:00):
Brandy Kavick joins us and her book, Brandy and Autobiography
is very vulnerable, very brave, and I think really important.
It's a story that more people need to hear because
I think there are other people that have had similar situations,
and she's really kicked open the door for it. So, Brandy,
thanks for coming on.

Speaker 11 (38:21):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
So let's talk about why you. First of all, let's
start talk about why you wrote the book.

Speaker 11 (38:28):
I had to get my story out there if it
wasn't seen for what it really is. Well, I didn't
want to be overlooked. I people, they kind of lied
about me a lot and maybe look bad. But I've
just had to be truthful of myself and love myself anyway,
just kind of that's and I did that by writing
this because my story sad, but I know it's going

(38:53):
to have a happy ending when I see my kids.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
I love that. And so let's tell the story. Let's
tell the story of your struggle where you were battling
a mental disease and then people, as you said, were
telling lies about you. And you were the mother of
two children and you have been without them for how
many years now?

Speaker 12 (39:10):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (39:10):
My, I've been without my daughter for twenty years and
I've been without my son for fifteen years.

Speaker 23 (39:15):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
That has to be tough.

Speaker 11 (39:17):
Ye, it has been very tough. But I I just
had to untruth the truth and figure out, you know,
I figured it out. Though this is very simple. I'm
a good person regardless regardless of well this happening to me.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
And so what happened? Tell tell us the story of
And we're not gonna tell them everything because they get
the book and they can read that. But what are
some of the things that happened to you that led
to the to the children being taken away?

Speaker 11 (39:44):
It started with my daughter. She was hit by her
dad and I left with her and I went to
my parents' house in another state from where I was before.
And when I moved there, Uh, and im my daughter
there with my parents and everything.

Speaker 14 (40:03):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (40:04):
The father's family decided to He's decided to get his
sister involved and have her write a statement about me
saying that I didn't feed my child and that I
was homicidal and suicidal, all kinds of lies. And at
the same time, my mom had a gardianship with me,
so she told me not to fight it, to just
let her have my daughter, and uh it really just

(40:25):
killed me. I had nobody to really back me up
try to keep her in my life.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
So it hurts.

Speaker 11 (40:34):
But yeah, I've just had to forgive, you know, this,
had to forgive and realized that even though they lied
about that, she lied and she wrote that about me
and lied. I I just never lost track of the
fact that I was a good mom when I did

(40:55):
have a chance to be, and I just kind of
got my reput you go, Samir, because I'm mentally ill.
And that's another part of the story, is my mom
covered She wanted me to take psychiatric medicine for so
long to cover up some abuse that I had in
my family, ask some sexual abuse, and uh so I've

(41:16):
had a hard time with that as well, trying to
you know, stay medicated and try to just be good
to myself, and you know, you talk.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
That's why I said, and thank you for telling this story,
you know here in an author's corner. That's why I say.
There are so many people that suffer in silence, and
by you putting that out there, you have no idea
how many people you can touch and reach. And you
talk about it. You say it's been a struggle. You
say that you've always hoped to get better, and there
are so many moments where you you know, you get worse,

(41:47):
and you say you don't want to be a pessimist.
And you talk about the stigma too, that gets placed
upon people who have any diagnosis, and maybe there's not
a definite even if they say parent it schizophrenic. A
lot of times there are other offshoots, as you know,
to that, and so much of it is chemical, and
in dealing with that and then dealing with things that

(42:08):
crush your spirit, and you talk very very candidly about that,
and you talk about what is recovery. How do you
recover from the things that that happened to you? And
I think this is one of do you feel like
putting your autobiography out there has been kind of one
of those ways to help you?

Speaker 11 (42:28):
Definitely, without a doubt. My journaling is awesome for me.
I have to. I'm always writing so that I can
get my thoughts out, making lists and to do things,
and I'm just always writing to get my thoughts thereed,
you know, out of my head, because it's been a
lot to deal with and a lot I've held on
and you know, trapped inside held inside my you know,
inside my heart, my mind as well. I had to write.

(42:50):
I just had to write it out and let people
see it and read it and feel that they're not
the only ones going through hard times.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah, and you know, and in the book you also
talk about this is because when somebody is in a
situation like yours, it's easy to take advantage. And you
talk about it, and you mentioned it, you talked about
domestic violence. So for everybody listening, can you imagine going
through the things that Brandy's going through? And then on
top of that, who's going to listen when you when

(43:20):
you're dealing with domestic violence? Is that right?

Speaker 11 (43:23):
Yes, it led to domestic violence. First, we had my
mom diagnosed, she had me diagnosed and then committed me
to the hospital for five years, and because of the
abuse of my stepdad. But as far as my son.
The domestic violence started when I got married to my
first husband. He was real good to me at first,

(43:44):
and she turned on me. He just turned cold on me,
and he would hit me when I was pregnant. I
tried to get away from him a couple of times,
but he ended up leaving with twenty two bruises from
head to toe. And I lost my four month old
son because he decided to have a violent temper attantionment

(44:06):
in a bank and slam's fist on the counter, and
an officer of the law decided to say he saw
my son being dropped a four month old baby and
dropped on the floor when I was holding him and
my bit in his baby slang. So I tried to
speak up in the courtroom and tell the judge what happened,
what really happened. That no, he did not see that happen.
There's no way I was holding my son, and she
would not let me speak.

Speaker 8 (44:26):
She told me to shut up.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Yes, I mean, I.

Speaker 11 (44:28):
Just I've never really had a chance to really have
a voice, So that's why I wrote this book. So
there was a cheer and I could at least get
my voice out there. And no one could stop me
from speaking about what happened.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
That's all. What do you hope happens with the children?
And you said it in the beginning, that you can
get reunited, especially now because of the ages.

Speaker 11 (44:47):
Yes, I have been in touch with my daughter. I've
talked her briefly a couple of times, and the first
time she's teared me on the phone. It was so
sweet because Jesus went, She's like, mom, and you could
hear that he was just shaking terribly, but she was
so happy to hear my voice and she said Mom,
and it I burst into tears and we were able
to talk for a few moments there. She wants to

(45:09):
get in contact with me, and she wants to see me,
she says, she's been busy, but she's making a plan
so that she can get back in touch with me
and we can go have a wonderful life together after
so long about being together exactly.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Imagine the catching up that you'd get to do. And
then with your son, it's this, you know, it's a
more difficult situation, but I imagine you wanted the same thing
as you said in the beginning.

Speaker 11 (45:33):
Yes, I'm sorry, could you could you read.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Sure your your son and getting back with your son
and being able to have a relationship with him.

Speaker 11 (45:41):
Yes, that that hasn't happened yet. I, like I said,
with the domestic violence, I got stuck in that the
cuif D trap and they I went for. I tried
really hard to do the treatment plan for a year
and a half. I did everything like they said, jump
through their hoops and for them to call me up

(46:03):
one day to see why you worked. Called me up
one day and said that he went. He asked me
if it was okay if the foster parents could take
my son on a trip to Kentucky. And I said, okay,
that's fine, but are we still having our home visit?
Because I had been scheduled to have my son come
home to me right about that time, so I was excited.
I had everything ready for him to come home, and toys, everything,
everything ready. And I'm sorry I'm talking too fast, but

(46:25):
I was all ready for him.

Speaker 10 (46:26):
To come home.

Speaker 11 (46:27):
And then they went for termination PRONO rights and I
didn't understand that, and then they end up moving to Kentucky.
It just all happened so fast, and it just spun
my head around. I didn't know how it could have
happened so fast. When I did all the footwork, all
the work, and then I was never given domestic balance, counseling, PARNO,

(46:51):
parent count, no, no forms of no way of helping
protect me or my child. They didn't. They didn't even
bother to try to help protect me my child. So
I don't kind of on my own, just trying to
figure out where he's at. I think he's in Kentucky now,
but they just ran off with him in Nexti'll let
him do it.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Wow. And so it's all about unraveling this. You're and
as I said, you're very thoughtful and very vulnerable, and
all of that in this in this book. And we
wish you the best, and we want to tell everybody
you can go and get it on Amazon. Piece of cake,
Brandy and autobiography is the name of it. Brandy Kvid,

(47:32):
thanks so much for sharing your story here.

Speaker 11 (47:35):
Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate sharing
that with you.

Speaker 6 (47:38):
All right, and we leave you with this.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
I was cruising around today and I realized Halloween is
like a week away. But would you believe that we're
seeing Christmas everywhere? I guess you would believe it? Right,
And now there are these Spirit Christmas stores, and they've
kind of quadrupled all over the place in Connecticut where
you're listening to us, and Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 6 (48:03):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
So if you're looking for a little bit of Christmas
and to feel good, you can get that Christmas spirit.
I suppose coming up right now because some of these stores.

Speaker 6 (48:12):
Have already opened. Wow.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Hey, thanks to all of you for listening to this show.
Remember you can always send me your thoughts. Kate at
katethalineyradio dot com, click on contact and batta.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Being you're in like.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
That, hug each other tight. Rather I make it count everybody,
See you next time, my friends,
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