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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Coming f on Thursday Night Football, the Chargers sore the
Viking Sync. We have the deets on that and set
you up for the week in the NFL plus Author's
Corner with two really terrific authors from overseas one of them,
and we'll dive into that again at the tail end
of the show. But right at the stop here with
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me Kate Delaney on atn we shake it up with
the Rundown.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Big News.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
The President says he's ending trade negotiations with Canada.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
It's done.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
He said he's making the move because of recent television
ads protesting UF's tariffs. As always, he releases information on
truth Social He posted the Ronald Reagan Foundation has just
announced that Canada has fraudulently used an advertise which is fake,
featuring Ronald Reagan speaking negatively about tariffs. The ad was
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for seventy five thousand. They only did this to interfere
with the decision of the Supreme Court and other courts,
and he said tariffs are very important to the national
security and economy of the US. Based on their egregious behavior,
all trade negotiations with Canada are here by terminated. I
saw that ad. It was very dramatic. It ran during
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the American League Championship Series and the Toronto Blue Jays
that of course they were in the series, and so
that was part of what the deal was. And so
you had Canadian ads, and that was an ad that
popped up that was run over and over and over
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and over again, at least a handful of times.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I saw it.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So the Shaker, I'm sure the reaction hasn't been anything
yet from Canada, but the Foundation said they're reviewing their
legal options in the matter. And remember it was the
meeting with Mark Carney earlier this month as they were
trying to ease tensions with the two countries, our country
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and of course Canada because now there's going to be
a review of the US Mexico Canada trade Agreement, which
was negotiated in the president's first term. Just so you
know this, I threw this out in the first hour,
but more than three quarters of Canadian exports go to
the US three quarters and nearly three point six billion
Canadian worth of goods and services across the border daily,
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So that's about two point seven billion. We're talking about
US seven billion US. In his own post on X
last week, Doug Ford, the Premiere of Ontario, posted a
link to the ad and the message it's official. Ontario's
new advertising campaign in the US has launched. He said,
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we're going to use every tool we have stopped making
the case against American tariffs on Canada. The way to
prosperity is by working together. And it's exactly what I
thought when I watched that game. The President said that
he had seen the ad on television and it showed
that his tariffs were having an impact.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So this is obviously a very, very big deal. The
tariffs especially have hurt Canada's auto sector, most of which
is based just right over the border in Ontario. So
stay tuned for more fallout on that one. All right,
Speaking of fallout, this is a shocker. Mafia linked gambling
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charges have rocked the NBA world, and that's a good
way to put it. And this is a long time
FBI sports betting investigation. So check out what Cash Patel,
the head of the FBI I had to say today.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
We are here in New York to announce a historic
arrests across a wide, sweeping criminal enterprise that envelops both
the NBA and Lacasa Nostra The men and women up
here standing with me represent a small portion of the
leadership team that brought profound justice in an era that
needed it more than any I'll just highlight some of
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the details in the case and the FBI work, and
then you'll hear from the others.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
But as you now know, individuals such as Chauncey Billups,
Damon Jones, and Terry Rozier were taking into custody today
former current NBA players and coaches. What you don't know
is that this is an illegal gambling operation and sports
rigging operation that spanned the course of years. The FBI
led a coordinative takedown across eleven states to arrest over
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thirty individuals today responsible for this case, which is very
much ongoing.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
It is ongoing.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Jessica Tish, New York City Police Commissioner on that gaming crackdown.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
The first case, Operation Nothing but Bet, exposed a gambling
ring built around professional basketball where players and associates allegedly
used inside information to manipulate manipulate prop bets on major
sports betting platforms. They placed wagers on unders on players
to score less, rebound less, assist less, using information that
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was not yet public In some instances players altered their
performance or took themselves out of games to make sure
that those bets paid out.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, so there are current people involved. You heard a
couple of the names, So like Chauncey Billips is one
of them, Hall of Fame or just last year, and
he was on the court on the at least on
the you know, stalking the court as they do, as
the coach for the Portland Trailblazers. Now they've got an
interim coach and NBA star Terry Rogier playing in Miami.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Obviously he's also not with Miami.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
It is stunning, stunning, stunning some of what has been
uncovered there. And you heard the way Jessica Tish described it,
She nailed it, the things that they did to make money.
But there was also a gaming aspect of this, with
a poker game where big names in the NBA were
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used as what they call fish to lure in people
with money to these games in Manhattan and in Las
Vegas and a couple of other places. And this is
a multi year investigation that spanned eleven states and resulted
in the arrest of thirty four people and involved tens
of millions of dollars and included members of the Banana Genevizi, Gambino,
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Lukesey crime families. People listening to the northeast and probably elsewhere.
Those are the biggest mafia names around. And there was
pressure put on gamblers who were threatened with mob style tactics. Wow,
all right, we jumped to the government. The government is
still shut down. Yes again, there was another vote, and
yes again it didn't pass. You're not shocked by that.
(07:08):
There is no short term funding bill. It's not looking good, folks.
Here's what the President said about having a meeting with
the Democrats at the White House.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I would like to meet with both of them, but
I set one little caveat.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
I will only mean if they let the country open.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yep, there you go.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
And then here's Democratic New York Senator Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
We have a very simple request, sit down and negotiate.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
The onus is on them to sit down, and.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It's not happening.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Senator John Thune from South Dakota Republican says, why are
we even here.
Speaker 8 (07:46):
We have negotiated. I don't know what there is to negotiate.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
All right, this is what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
We're getting close to November first, so for most of
the country, excluding federal workers, the government shut down christ
has been kind of a battle that's distant a little
bit to some people, right because we were used to
these partisan squabbles. I say it all the time, but
now when you ask people, they're saying, oh, it's affected me,
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you know, maybe a little bit with travel.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
But it's going to get really real.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
It's going to manifest, especially going to have miss paychecks
for federal employees. They pump money into certain economies, especially
like Arlington, Virginia is a great example of that. Snap
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Andy, we are in the man Cave, and boy, there's
a lot to get to in the man cave. The
charges that the mafia linked charges that have slammed the NBA,
the big shocker and the conversation, especially as the NBA
world is just underway. Wow, you know, not a shocker,
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obviously from the legal point of view, because of this
long investigation, there had been rumors about that, So I
don't I don't know that that's shocking and players cheating,
Oh wow, do you think that's ever happened before? Of
course there's always the big concern about it, but this
one goes really much much deeper, much deeper than I
thought was was happening.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So we're going to get to that in a second.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
But first I do want to tell you this because
you know, we have another week of the NFL. So
what happened on the Thursday night game. It wasn't a
great game for Vikings fans at all because the Chargers
just ran over them thirty seven to ten the final
score there, and the story part of the story was
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Carson Wentz was you know, picked off, and also the
fact that Justin Herbert threw for two hundred and twenty
seven yards and three touchdowns in that and made some
crisp clear bombs that went down the field. So the
Chargers won for the first time since Week six at
Miami after losing to the Colts. So it's a big
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bounce back for them, scoring more than thirty points for
the first time and didn't even punt. So how about
that The Vikings lost consecutive games for the first time
this season, with both happening in a five day span.
They managed just twelve downs to twenty nine for the Chargers,
were three of eleven on third downs, and had the
ball for just.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Twenty one minutes. Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Kevin O'Connell, the coach of the Viking, said, this is
not a bury the tape kind of time for our organization.
This is a watch it, view it own it every
coach and every player, and it starts with me, I
did not have our team prepared to play. How about that?
We jump to what is what everybody is talking about.
The NBA is just underway and there's a lot of
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exciting stories that are happening are going to be rolled
out as we continue down the path of this season.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
But the season is.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Marred a little bit at the beginning here because of
this gambling scandal involving Chauncey Billips, who is the coach
of the Trailblazers, who was on the court just the
other day, and then also Terry Rozier, who is a
superstar player who is playing for Miami, saying thing he's
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out and they're all in the middle of this investigation.
Here's what Joseph Ncella, Junior, US attorney for the Eastern
District in New York City said about the charges.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
The first indictment involves six defendants who are alleged to
have participated one of the most brazen sports corruption schemes
since online sports betting became widely legalized in the United States.
This scheme is an insider sports betting conspiracy that exploited
confidential information about National Basketball Association athletes and teams. The
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second indictment involves thirty one defendants alleged to have participated
in a nationwide scheme to rig illegal poker games. These defendants,
which include former professional athletes, used high tech cheating technology
to steal millions of dollars from victims in underground poker
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games that were secretly fixed. The games in the New
York area were backed by the Banano, Gambino and genovesey
crime families of Lacaza Nostra.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, I mean you dig into this, and so, I mean,
here's the thing about the Chauncey Billips. It's the allegations there.
The indictments on both cases unsealed by the FEDS. Phillips
is neither named nor charging the indictment for the sports
betting scheme in co conspirator eight. But what is known that.
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I mean, Look, this is a guy who began his
career with the Celts. I remember interviewing him in ninety seven.
I didn't interview him then, but I can remember him
in his career. I guess that probably the Pistons is
when I talked to him in twenty fourteen on one
of my shows. But the Celts and the Pistons and
taken over as the coach of the Trailblazers in twenty
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twenty one. And what he's accused of is allegedly providing
information to one of the defendants about a game between
the Trailblazers and the Bulls that happened in March of
twenty twenty three. So again, imagine that the Bulls won
that game one twenty four to ninety six, the Portland
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Portland's four top scorers all sat out, and there were
a lot of designations that went from probable to questionable
to out on the injury report.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So explain that.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
And the same thing about Rogier telling about himself about
that he was going to take himself out of a game.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
All of that.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
So you're talking about points games affecting the outcome of
games and digging through this, and which is what I'm
sure the NBA going through this is.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
This is just the beginnings of this. I mean, it
is just the beginnings.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
And here we are, like I said, at the beginning
of the season, where you even had two exciting games
where the thunder on the court.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You had the thunder, Yeah, the squeaky shoes who's made it?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
The thunder knocked off the Pacers one forty one, one
thirty five, so they picked up their second win. It
was double overtime as a thriller of a game. And
then the Warriors at home beating the Nuggets in overtime
one thirty seven, one thirty one. But people are talking
not about that. They're not talking about that so much
as they are talking about this scandal, which wow again
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wow wow wow, the repercussions of that. I want to
set you up for what's coming up in Major League Baseball,
and that is the World Series the Los Angeles Dodgers
and Toronto. It it all happens at eight o'clock Eastern
time on Friday. Will you be watching, I will be
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watching when it think at the Dodgers and I think
of the best player in baseball and who is that show?
Hey O, Tony. What a show he put on in
that last game to wipe out the Brewers. There are
some interesting themes happening here. And could it be that Toronto,
the upstart, getting in this position, being here for the
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first time in thirty five years, somehow will upset the Dodgers.
If I'm making predictions on this, I think the Dodgers
are too tough between not just show, hey O, Toni,
but the pitching has been just absolutely incredible. I mean
October is all about the stars month when you come
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out in that second season.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So when I look at this and I.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Look at the players that maybe it didn't even have
their best season, I think they'll shine when it comes
to the World Series, right, And I mean listen, so
I look at like I look at Blake Snell. He's
been on a roll. He's been left handed pitcher, he's
been on a role, he's been dominant since early September,
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and he shut down the Brewers. They certainly know that
at his velocity, how he strikes out, the dominance just
He's got the ball in Friday's Game one, and he
could get two starts if the series goes longer, and
I think he picks up those starts. I mean again,
he is on fire, so they're going to have to
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find a way. They being the Blue Jays are gonna
have to find a way to get around him. But
then you know the guys who are hitting incredible, like
Ernie Clement. He's been amazing, right, He's had extra bases
how many twice as many extra bases in the postseason,
and he's barely had any strikeouts, just a couple of them.
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He's great against lefty, So there's that lefty matchup with
Blake Snell.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
So the Blue Jays are gonna see Snow.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Like I said, I think they might see them twice,
so lefty relievers in the bullpen, all of that.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It's gonna be interesting. If I'm picking now, I.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Say it's the Dodgers, but I don't think it's gonna
be a sweep. I don't think we're gonna see that
kind of a series. It could go six games. I
don't know that it goes seven, but I know that
I'll be watching. And it actually all starts in Toronto,
so not in Los Angeles and Toronto. To me, if
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they're gonna if you're gonna have a shot at this.
They need to get in front of it fast, and
they need to They need to win these games in
Toronto at least split in Toronto, for sure, no question
about it.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
All right.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
A big reminder about nail the score. We do it
each and every Tuesday on the show. In our last segment,
I pick a game of the week and you can
call in or you can send me an email with
your guests. Who do you think is gonna win, what team,
and what the final score is going going to? Uh,
it's gonna be We've got some good ones coming up
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this week, that's for sure. Even it's gonna be curious
to see. I'm gonna be curious to see what happens
obviously with the Packers and the Steelers. That's the big one.
On Sunday Night. Aaron Rodgers says, by the way that
he is once he retires, of course, he's the quarterback
for the Steelers. Says once he retires, he would go
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into the Hall of Fame as a Packer. Nellie Hill
coming up next, She's got a great story. Then, Ee Linson,
Author's corner.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
On the show office corner. She asked of the book.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I am really thrilled to introduce you to Nellie Hill.
She's written a really entertaining piece of work called Sunday Jinks,
and we go out to California for that conversation because
that's what we're talking about. So Nellie, thank you so
much for coming on.
Speaker 14 (23:17):
Oh, thank you, Kate. I really enjoy the conversations with you.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
So let's talk about the roads to this book. What
made you decide you're going to pull this all together?
Speaker 14 (23:29):
Oh, thinking about it over a few decades, well, certainly
a few more than a few years. I just kept
they just kept coming to my mind. No, I've got
to write it. I wrote poems about it before I
found them in one of my older chat books of poetry.
But then I was at an artist colley a McDowell,
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and I had a lot of time and privacy in
my cabin studio, and I just started writing it. And
then the dinner bell rang, so I went into the
dinner hall. You don't have to do that at those colonies,
but I went in and then I couldn't wait to
get back to my cabin studio and continue. I wrote
it all by hand, and I acted out my characters too.
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I knew I'd go in this private woodland and walk
and talk just like them. So I got them, I
got them down on paper. I just couldn't stop.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
And it's so interesting too, because we'll take people inside
the book. You know, you're talking about the nineteen seventies.
You're talking about an aspiring young poet named Sarah and
she leaves her artist's husband and moves to San Francisco.
Would you think about what that would be like? It
wouldn't be that easy to do that.
Speaker 14 (24:47):
What I didn't get there?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It wouldn't be very easy to do that.
Speaker 14 (24:51):
Oh no, well nothing's easy, but it had to be done.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And that's part of what you talk about in the book. Yes, yeah,
So tell us more about Sarah.
Speaker 14 (25:05):
Well, yeah, she was sort of lost, i'd say, in
where she wanted to go with her writing abilities or
where she was able to go. So San Francisco just
seemed to be calling her. And she lived in an
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in law and had a lot of privacy. She sort
of made her own artist studio out of that in
law apartment.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
And what's interesting is she did she did find a job.
Tell everybody where she found a job.
Speaker 14 (25:44):
Yeah, I guess I don't know how she found it,
maybe an ad in the paper or anyway, she called
the number across town half a mile or so across
San Francisco, and this, uh, well, he'd already founded out
on the phone with a kind of accent. It sounded
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like a southern accent. And she went over and he
was over to his office, and he was very friendly
and showed her some work. She'd done a lot of
secretarial work, so it seemed kind of minimal, and he
wanted to pay her something right away and have her
do some files and so on. So anyway, it was
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kind of a character so she hung around and it
seemed like, you know, she'd have some sort of money
coming in. And oh, his business was wig.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Die, Wig Die, Yeah, wig die, And I mean right there,
it's intriguing. So she works for Al and then before
long they become a couple.
Speaker 14 (26:53):
Oh yes, yes, and L had a partner who I mean,
a business partner I think, who whose parents had some
sort of beauty business. And that's where all this wig
day came from. In the whole business with Al began
to happen.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, but does she start to question that? I think,
and I have to tell everybody everything in the book,
but part of the plot is she doesn't really trust Al.
She starts to have some questions about Al.
Speaker 14 (27:25):
Yes, yes, she has lots of questions, but she keeps
going along with him. Anyway, I'm not quite sure what.
Excuse me, The allergies must be blowing around outside pollins
and so on. Anyway, she went along. I think she
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wanted to wanted to find the root of his charisma
and his also turn off I mean, he did turn
off quite a few people, so she just kept it
seemed like an adventure. I guess it is an adventure.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
It's an adventure until somebody from the FBI knocks on
a door.
Speaker 14 (28:10):
Oh, yes, that's true. But she was sort of somewhat
out of the picture, could talk herself.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Out of it, right right.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So for you, in writing Sunday Jinks, what was that like?
As you were telling us, you know that it had
taken time to put it together, and how fun it
was to do what it sounded like. But now to
have it out there in the world, that has to
feel good.
Speaker 14 (28:39):
I did want it out in the world. I was
at a different colony when I really finished the draft,
but I was still working on it, and I showed
it to two older friends who were both playwrights, and
oh my god, they loved it. They demanded to see it.
I wasn't gonna let anybody see this first draft, but
they really loved it, and I got all excited. Send
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it to my director, send it to mine. One was
in Manhattan, the other one La.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
But I just.
Speaker 14 (29:08):
Knew I had to. I had I had more to
do with that manuscript. I really had to get across
to one question. These two artists did not have this question,
but several other people did. What's a nice girl like
her doing with someone like him? And so I had
to just somehow get some some sense of that between
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the lines. So that took me. It took about forty
years to really write it. And my final one of
my friends in Berkeley had read the whole manuscript, so
and she and I were in a poetry poets writing
prose group, just three of us, So I got some
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help from them, really not much. I'd pretty much gotten
it all where I could send it out.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah, for people who read this book, what do you
hope they take away? They're listening to our conversation, it
sounds interesting. You've got Sarah, You've got this al situation.
You have a crazy wig dye company, and then it
really unravels, you know, oh con artists, yikes. What do
you hope people take away from reading your book?
Speaker 14 (30:23):
Well, I've been thinking about that question, and basically, I
hope they enjoy reading a good story and that maybe
maybe it has for them will take off into realizing
what can or cannot happen?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Right, And that's intriguing. Does it make you want to
dive into another another book, another novel?
Speaker 14 (30:51):
I thinking about it, but instead I wrote a memoir
which has short chapters and it's it's it's very different.
It's not a novel, but it well, it has a
lot of people in it. It's called Three Houses. That's
its working title. Well, no, that's its title. And then
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I initially had it called it Mother in the Three
Houses because my mother was quite a character, and you know,
she ran these three houses. But in each section, for
each each of the houses, one is in the Midwest,
one is in New England, one is in the south
of France. That there are various people that give it character.
(31:37):
I think image comes to mind, like threads of paint
and so on. House interior decorating that's what these different
people do inside and outside. I just started reading a
rereading a part of it last night. I had to
let it go because I had somewhere to be or
(31:58):
to talk to anyway, that was rewarding to find it
engaging to me. I don't expect to be engaged by
my writing, especially something I've written a few years ago.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
All right, well, they say always reread what you write,
and absolutely Sunday Jenks is really fun and you can
get it for a song on Amazon and same thing.
We have to look for three houses and we can't
wait to see what else happens in the future. Nellie Hill,
thank you so much.
Speaker 14 (32:30):
Well, thank you, Kate. I'm glad to be talking with you,
and thank you for these questions.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Here's an interesting story that I wanted to share with
everybody they came across recently, and maybe think of how
many of you, whether you have kids, don't have kids,
whatever stage of life you're in, you know, our pets
are like part of our family, there's no question. And
I never had a dog. I've said this story before,
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(32:58):
So as an adult, I got my first dog I
became pet owner with my husband and we had Mahalow,
the Golden retriever who people would come to visit me
just to stay with Mahalow. I'm not kidding. And it
was awful, awful, awful to say goodbye to Mahalow. I
never knew what that felt like, and it was terrible.
So and now we have the wonderful Guinness. But people
(33:20):
have a hard time letting go, and I understand it totally.
It's like they're here today, gone tomorrow, and it's a
short life for many pets. So there's a place called
Honor Pet that opened a ten thousand square foot comfort
center in Los Angeles. What they have there is for
private rooms, interactive memorial stations, community space is grief support
(33:41):
that goes through the whole end of life thing and
compassionate euthanasia. They call it an eco friendly water cremation.
That sounds kind of interesting. What is also interesting is
did you know this gen Z spends one thousand, fifty
six dollars more than their pets each year than their
boomer counterparts. Wow, well, I bet you that this place
(34:03):
will get used I really do. I mean eighty two
percent and all the surveys, eighty two percent of pet
owners consider their pets to be family members. But typical veterinarians,
even the wonderful ones, don't have end of life care.
It just doesn't. Most of it doesn't reflect that kind
of bond which I can attest to when we say
(34:25):
goodbye to Guinness.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
They did a nice job, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Anything anything like that, nothing like that. All right, Coming
up next, we continue the conversation, this time with Ee Linsen.
I'll meet you there.
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Speaker 1 (38:00):
Ee Linsen joins us now he's joining us from overseas. Boy,
what an interesting life he has led and is living.
And he's writing a trilogy. And the first of the
trilogy is out and it is so intriguing. It is
called it is Good to Be Bad Chronicles of the Guild.
So we welcome him to author's corner here on America
(38:21):
Tonight with me Kate Delaney. Ee, thanks for coming on.
Speaker 17 (38:25):
Thank you very much for having me Katy.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
You know, it's interesting we had a chance to talk
off air for a few minutes. And what an interesting
background you have involved in the banking world to sea level,
traveling all over really seeing different cultures. And I think
part of that your rich experience is poured into the
fiction that you're writing and probably will continue to write
(38:50):
for sure in this trilogy. So for you being able
to do that, how fun has that been or exciting
has it been to be able to write novels?
Speaker 17 (39:02):
Well, the idea of writing novels didn't come suddenly, right,
it was an evolution. But during the process I find
it to be amazing, and using a little bit of
my experience in order to figure out where to design
(39:24):
the action and the structure in the different places that
I had the opportunity to live in make it made
it very easy. So, as I said before to you,
I didn't know that writing was such a fun exercise,
really intimate exercise, but I'm quite in front of it,
(39:45):
and that's why I'm right now working on the first
of the two sequels.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Nice So in this book, the main character is Christopher,
and he's got two childhood friends and really interesting personalities.
Tell us a little bit about the journey.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
And this book.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
You're not going to tell us everything, because people can
go on Amazon, they can get this book for a song.
But tell us a little bit about the book and
the story.
Speaker 17 (40:13):
Well, the book has the main character carries a story
along it and it reflects somehow or has some parents
with all of us. Right when when we are young,
we are educated by parents normally with a very strict
(40:35):
stringent moral and ethical framework in which you cannot lie,
you cannot steal, you cannot kill, you cannot do lots
of things that are supposed to be bad. Right as
you grow you start realizing that in order to be pragmatic,
you have to push some of these boundaries a little
(40:57):
bit further, but you still have to have a code
on the limits that you want to go. When the
main character confronts really life changing circumstances, he is confronted
with these dilemmas and he chooses, you know what I
believe we all should be choosing. But this brings him
(41:18):
into troubles and he has to deal with them. So
that's in essence. The evolution of the main character is
probably the most how we can summarize the story of
the book.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
And what's interesting here is too is we're talking about technology.
We're talking about our world is steeped in not just
tech we're seeing that with the AI, but surveillance. And
this is what the essence of this is. How does
he do it? What happens? And what are the moral
dilemmas is like you say, there are loyalties that shift
(41:52):
all over the place, and it's pretty murky out there,
isn't it.
Speaker 17 (41:56):
Well, yeah, in fact, background, you have a topic which
is not a new story. Is well known that government
overreach and its goal has been a worrying problem for
the last few decades, to be honest, for the most
of the last century. And if you look into the
(42:19):
economics and you see how the sizes of the government
have grown significantly faster than GDPs and personal incomes, such
population in general should be worrying and how far it
should go, and then the what we should be doing
(42:40):
regarding that, And if you allow me, kids to make
reflections with other authors books like Axley or vagas Head
or Marqueers that have mentioned that or announce or predicted,
(43:01):
particularly in the West, that the individuals are losing interest
of being free in order to be comfortable, and what
this implies for the society. Right, So in front of this,
when you have the resources and you are intellectually well equipped,
you should challenge what you should be doing. And that's
(43:23):
the background of the Guild, which is, you know, the
very powerful entity behind the story.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
And you know in this book these themes that we're
talking about it maybe think, what do you hope the
takeaways are for the readers to have from reading it.
I think one of them certainly is loyalty and perseverance,
or two of them.
Speaker 17 (43:44):
Yeah, I think probably you will get this from the
first few pages of the book, right, the main character
is confronted with a very unfair situation and which he
has to either duck and and play along with everybody
else or hold his principles and do what is right.
(44:08):
He decides the latter right, and that cost him his job,
his life, his friends, etc. Standing alone is required is
not something that comes easy in real life. Everybody agrees
that this should be the correct way of behaving, but
that's not what is happening in most of the cases,
(44:28):
but this provides the character to reposition his whole life
and do something even bigger. And I believe that that
stands of sticking to your own principles, Right, is something
that I would like everybody at least when I think
about my kids, I want them to behave like that.
(44:51):
Hopefully readers will reflect and if they are confronted with
this sort of situation do the same.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, it's interesting because I mentioned in the beginning Christopher
one of the main character, really and what you have
him doing is so interesting, the things that we just
talked about. You have to decide do you think he's
a villain. Some people would say that, some people would
say maybe he's a little bit of a hero, or
is he just kind of upon circling around in this game?
(45:19):
And that's part of the chronicles of the Guild.
Speaker 17 (45:21):
Isn't it great? And let me tell you, if you
look at the story or not just be spoken in general,
it's amazing how people can judge the behavior of others
in so dramatically different ways depending on what are their
(45:41):
own preferences of yous right. The use of these in
politics and religion, in business, everywhere, right, and the loyalty
of is also very important value, right, And there are
some characters here that play a critical role that are
loyal no matter what. That's also an important value to
(46:01):
keep in life and family and friends.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
No.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
I so agree with that absolutely.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
So I think that you're having fun writing this as
you travel. Am I right about that?
Speaker 17 (46:13):
Correct? I owe a lot to my parents, write, my
mother and sisters and me learning languages, and I speak
a few in Western European languages, right, And that helped
me a lot. And that gives you also the opportunity
to get closer to these different cultures, and you enjoy
(46:35):
it much more. Right. And as I said before, writing
is an amazing exercise if you do it with you know,
with passion.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Oh boy, that's the truth. And then you and this
is a trilogy, and so you've got your working on
the other book and that's going to come out next year.
Speaker 17 (46:50):
That's correct. I have already structured this story the three books,
and right now I'm working on the second one, and
then we'll be coming most likely to have eighteen months later.
The saipoint Edward.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
It was great to speak to you again. For everybody listening,
get this book and get it for a song kindle
version if you want it that way, That's how I
got it, and get it on Amazon. It is good
to be bad. Chronicles of the Guild under Ee Linsen.
Thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 17 (47:21):
Thank you for having me. Kate.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
I'm going to leave you with a UBI what I
call ubiquitous bit of information. Sometimes the grass is not
always greener. I have a lot of friends that are married,
but I also have a lot of friends that are single,
and we're going through everything with them when it comes
to the twiping and dating and all of that. Right, So,
(47:44):
now there's this new thing called throning, and it's a
new dating trend. You know what throning is. I'm teaching
a new word that I learned that I was like what.
And throning means when you're dating. You're dating someone to
raise your social status. The goal for throners is to
land a partner with clout so their own image of
(48:05):
course gets a boost by association. What and on TikTok
this is all over the place, they say if you
are dating someone and they seem overly excited about your
social circle, and they change their behavior depending on whether
you're in public or private. They are a throner. See
you next time on the show. I'm Kate Delaney. Keep
(48:27):
it here, keep it real,
Coming f on Thursday Night Football, the Chargers sore the
Viking Sync. We have the deets on that and set
you up for the week in the NFL plus Author's
Corner with two really terrific authors from overseas one of them,
and we'll dive into that again at the tail end
of the show. But right at the stop here with
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
Big News.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
The President says he's ending trade negotiations with Canada.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
It's done.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
He said he's making the move because of recent television
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So the Shaker, I'm sure the reaction hasn't been anything
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and of course Canada because now there's going to be
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Speaker 2 (03:17):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So this is obviously a very, very big deal. The
tariffs especially have hurt Canada's auto sector, most of which
is based just right over the border in Ontario. So
stay tuned for more fallout on that one. All right,
Speaking of fallout, this is a shocker. Mafia linked gambling
(03:45):
charges have rocked the NBA world, and that's a good
way to put it. And this is a long time
FBI sports betting investigation. So check out what Cash Patel,
the head of the FBI I had to say today.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
We are here in New York to announce a historic
arrests across a wide, sweeping criminal enterprise that envelops both
the NBA and Lacasa Nostra The men and women up
here standing with me represent a small portion of the
leadership team that brought profound justice in an era that
needed it more than any I'll just highlight some of
(04:23):
the details in the case and the FBI work, and
then you'll hear from the others.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
But as you now know, individuals such as Chauncey Billups,
Damon Jones, and Terry Rozier were taking into custody today
former current NBA players and coaches. What you don't know
is that this is an illegal gambling operation and sports
rigging operation that spanned the course of years. The FBI
led a coordinative takedown across eleven states to arrest over
(04:50):
thirty individuals today responsible for this case, which is very
much ongoing.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
It is ongoing.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Jessica Tish, New York City Police Commissioner on that gaming crackdown.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
The first case, Operation Nothing but Bet, exposed a gambling
ring built around professional basketball where players and associates allegedly
used inside information to manipulate manipulate prop bets on major
sports betting platforms. They placed wagers on unders on players
to score less, rebound less, assist less, using information that
(05:26):
was not yet public In some instances players altered their
performance or took themselves out of games to make sure
that those bets paid out.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, so there are current people involved. You heard a
couple of the names, So like Chauncey Billips is one
of them, Hall of Fame or just last year, and
he was on the court on the at least on
the you know, stalking the court as they do, as
the coach for the Portland Trailblazers. Now they've got an
interim coach and NBA star Terry Rogier playing in Miami.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Obviously he's also not with Miami.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
It is stunning, stunning, stunning some of what has been
uncovered there. And you heard the way Jessica Tish described it,
She nailed it, the things that they did to make money.
But there was also a gaming aspect of this, with
a poker game where big names in the NBA were
(06:23):
used as what they call fish to lure in people
with money to these games in Manhattan and in Las
Vegas and a couple of other places. And this is
a multi year investigation that spanned eleven states and resulted
in the arrest of thirty four people and involved tens
of millions of dollars and included members of the Banana Genevizi, Gambino,
(06:45):
Lukesey crime families. People listening to the northeast and probably elsewhere.
Those are the biggest mafia names around. And there was
pressure put on gamblers who were threatened with mob style tactics. Wow,
all right, we jumped to the government. The government is
still shut down. Yes again, there was another vote, and
yes again it didn't pass. You're not shocked by that.
(07:08):
There is no short term funding bill. It's not looking good, folks.
Here's what the President said about having a meeting with
the Democrats at the White House.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I would like to meet with both of them, but
I set one little caveat.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
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Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yep, there you go.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
And then here's Democratic New York Senator Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
We have a very simple request, sit down and negotiate.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
The onus is on them to sit down, and.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It's not happening.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
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Speaker 8 (07:46):
We have negotiated. I don't know what there is to negotiate.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
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has been kind of a battle that's distant a little
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charges that the mafia linked charges that have slammed the NBA,
the big shocker and the conversation, especially as the NBA
world is just underway. Wow, you know, not a shocker,
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obviously from the legal point of view, because of this
long investigation, there had been rumors about that, So I
don't I don't know that that's shocking and players cheating,
Oh wow, do you think that's ever happened before? Of
course there's always the big concern about it, but this
one goes really much much deeper, much deeper than I
thought was was happening.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So we're going to get to that in a second.
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But first I do want to tell you this because
you know, we have another week of the NFL. So
what happened on the Thursday night game. It wasn't a
great game for Vikings fans at all because the Chargers
just ran over them thirty seven to ten the final
score there, and the story part of the story was
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Carson Wentz was you know, picked off, and also the
fact that Justin Herbert threw for two hundred and twenty
seven yards and three touchdowns in that and made some
crisp clear bombs that went down the field. So the
Chargers won for the first time since Week six at
Miami after losing to the Colts. So it's a big
(13:44):
bounce back for them, scoring more than thirty points for
the first time and didn't even punt. So how about
that The Vikings lost consecutive games for the first time
this season, with both happening in a five day span.
They managed just twelve downs to twenty nine for the Chargers,
were three of eleven on third downs, and had the
ball for just.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Twenty one minutes. Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Kevin O'Connell, the coach of the Viking, said, this is
not a bury the tape kind of time for our organization.
This is a watch it, view it own it every
coach and every player, and it starts with me, I
did not have our team prepared to play. How about that?
We jump to what is what everybody is talking about.
The NBA is just underway and there's a lot of
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exciting stories that are happening are going to be rolled
out as we continue down the path of this season.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
But the season is.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Marred a little bit at the beginning here because of
this gambling scandal involving Chauncey Billips, who is the coach
of the Trailblazers, who was on the court just the
other day, and then also Terry Rozier, who is a
superstar player who is playing for Miami, saying thing he's
(15:01):
out and they're all in the middle of this investigation.
Here's what Joseph Ncella, Junior, US attorney for the Eastern
District in New York City said about the charges.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
The first indictment involves six defendants who are alleged to
have participated one of the most brazen sports corruption schemes
since online sports betting became widely legalized in the United States.
This scheme is an insider sports betting conspiracy that exploited
confidential information about National Basketball Association athletes and teams. The
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second indictment involves thirty one defendants alleged to have participated
in a nationwide scheme to rig illegal poker games. These defendants,
which include former professional athletes, used high tech cheating technology
to steal millions of dollars from victims in underground poker
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games that were secretly fixed. The games in the New
York area were backed by the Banano, Gambino and genovesey
crime families of Lacaza Nostra.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, I mean you dig into this, and so, I mean,
here's the thing about the Chauncey Billips. It's the allegations there.
The indictments on both cases unsealed by the FEDS. Phillips
is neither named nor charging the indictment for the sports
betting scheme in co conspirator eight. But what is known that.
(16:34):
I mean, Look, this is a guy who began his
career with the Celts. I remember interviewing him in ninety seven.
I didn't interview him then, but I can remember him
in his career. I guess that probably the Pistons is
when I talked to him in twenty fourteen on one
of my shows. But the Celts and the Pistons and
taken over as the coach of the Trailblazers in twenty
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twenty one. And what he's accused of is allegedly providing
information to one of the defendants about a game between
the Trailblazers and the Bulls that happened in March of
twenty twenty three. So again, imagine that the Bulls won
that game one twenty four to ninety six, the Portland
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Portland's four top scorers all sat out, and there were
a lot of designations that went from probable to questionable
to out on the injury report.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So explain that.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
And the same thing about Rogier telling about himself about
that he was going to take himself out of a game.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
All of that.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
So you're talking about points games affecting the outcome of
games and digging through this, and which is what I'm
sure the NBA going through this is.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
This is just the beginnings of this. I mean, it
is just the beginnings.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
And here we are, like I said, at the beginning
of the season, where you even had two exciting games
where the thunder on the court.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You had the thunder, Yeah, the squeaky shoes who's made it?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
The thunder knocked off the Pacers one forty one, one
thirty five, so they picked up their second win. It
was double overtime as a thriller of a game. And
then the Warriors at home beating the Nuggets in overtime
one thirty seven, one thirty one. But people are talking
not about that. They're not talking about that so much
as they are talking about this scandal, which wow again
(18:34):
wow wow wow, the repercussions of that. I want to
set you up for what's coming up in Major League Baseball,
and that is the World Series the Los Angeles Dodgers
and Toronto. It it all happens at eight o'clock Eastern
time on Friday. Will you be watching, I will be
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watching when it think at the Dodgers and I think
of the best player in baseball and who is that show?
Hey O, Tony. What a show he put on in
that last game to wipe out the Brewers. There are
some interesting themes happening here. And could it be that Toronto,
the upstart, getting in this position, being here for the
(19:19):
first time in thirty five years, somehow will upset the Dodgers.
If I'm making predictions on this, I think the Dodgers
are too tough between not just show, hey O, Toni,
but the pitching has been just absolutely incredible. I mean
October is all about the stars month when you come
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out in that second season.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So when I look at this and I.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Look at the players that maybe it didn't even have
their best season, I think they'll shine when it comes
to the World Series, right, And I mean listen, so
I look at like I look at Blake Snell. He's
been on a roll. He's been left handed pitcher, he's
been on a role, he's been dominant since early September,
(20:09):
and he shut down the Brewers. They certainly know that
at his velocity, how he strikes out, the dominance just
He's got the ball in Friday's Game one, and he
could get two starts if the series goes longer, and
I think he picks up those starts. I mean again,
he is on fire, so they're going to have to
(20:30):
find a way. They being the Blue Jays are gonna
have to find a way to get around him. But
then you know the guys who are hitting incredible, like
Ernie Clement. He's been amazing, right, He's had extra bases
how many twice as many extra bases in the postseason,
and he's barely had any strikeouts, just a couple of them.
(20:53):
He's great against lefty, So there's that lefty matchup with
Blake Snell.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
So the Blue Jays are gonna see Snow.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Like I said, I think they might see them twice,
so lefty relievers in the bullpen, all of that.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It's gonna be interesting. If I'm picking now, I.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Say it's the Dodgers, but I don't think it's gonna
be a sweep. I don't think we're gonna see that
kind of a series. It could go six games. I
don't know that it goes seven, but I know that
I'll be watching. And it actually all starts in Toronto,
so not in Los Angeles and Toronto. To me, if
(21:30):
they're gonna if you're gonna have a shot at this.
They need to get in front of it fast, and
they need to They need to win these games in
Toronto at least split in Toronto, for sure, no question
about it.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
All right.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
A big reminder about nail the score. We do it
each and every Tuesday on the show. In our last segment,
I pick a game of the week and you can
call in or you can send me an email with
your guests. Who do you think is gonna win, what team,
and what the final score is going going to? Uh,
it's gonna be We've got some good ones coming up
(22:04):
this week, that's for sure. Even it's gonna be curious
to see. I'm gonna be curious to see what happens
obviously with the Packers and the Steelers. That's the big one.
On Sunday Night. Aaron Rodgers says, by the way that
he is once he retires, of course, he's the quarterback
for the Steelers. Says once he retires, he would go
(22:26):
into the Hall of Fame as a Packer. Nellie Hill
coming up next, She's got a great story. Then, Ee Linson,
Author's corner.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
On the show office corner. She asked of the book.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I am really thrilled to introduce you to Nellie Hill.
She's written a really entertaining piece of work called Sunday Jinks,
and we go out to California for that conversation because
that's what we're talking about. So Nellie, thank you so
much for coming on.
Speaker 14 (23:17):
Oh, thank you, Kate. I really enjoy the conversations with you.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
So let's talk about the roads to this book. What
made you decide you're going to pull this all together?
Speaker 14 (23:29):
Oh, thinking about it over a few decades, well, certainly
a few more than a few years. I just kept
they just kept coming to my mind. No, I've got
to write it. I wrote poems about it before I
found them in one of my older chat books of poetry.
But then I was at an artist colley a McDowell,
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and I had a lot of time and privacy in
my cabin studio, and I just started writing it. And
then the dinner bell rang, so I went into the
dinner hall. You don't have to do that at those colonies,
but I went in and then I couldn't wait to
get back to my cabin studio and continue. I wrote
it all by hand, and I acted out my characters too.
(24:15):
I knew I'd go in this private woodland and walk
and talk just like them. So I got them, I
got them down on paper. I just couldn't stop.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
And it's so interesting too, because we'll take people inside
the book. You know, you're talking about the nineteen seventies.
You're talking about an aspiring young poet named Sarah and
she leaves her artist's husband and moves to San Francisco.
Would you think about what that would be like? It
wouldn't be that easy to do that.
Speaker 14 (24:47):
What I didn't get there?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It wouldn't be very easy to do that.
Speaker 14 (24:51):
Oh no, well nothing's easy, but it had to be done.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And that's part of what you talk about in the book. Yes, yeah,
So tell us more about Sarah.
Speaker 14 (25:05):
Well, yeah, she was sort of lost, i'd say, in
where she wanted to go with her writing abilities or
where she was able to go. So San Francisco just
seemed to be calling her. And she lived in an
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in law and had a lot of privacy. She sort
of made her own artist studio out of that in
law apartment.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
And what's interesting is she did she did find a job.
Tell everybody where she found a job.
Speaker 14 (25:44):
Yeah, I guess I don't know how she found it,
maybe an ad in the paper or anyway, she called
the number across town half a mile or so across
San Francisco, and this, uh, well, he'd already founded out
on the phone with a kind of accent. It sounded
(26:04):
like a southern accent. And she went over and he
was over to his office, and he was very friendly
and showed her some work. She'd done a lot of
secretarial work, so it seemed kind of minimal, and he
wanted to pay her something right away and have her
do some files and so on. So anyway, it was
(26:27):
kind of a character so she hung around and it
seemed like, you know, she'd have some sort of money
coming in. And oh, his business was wig.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Die, Wig Die, Yeah, wig die, And I mean right there,
it's intriguing. So she works for Al and then before
long they become a couple.
Speaker 14 (26:53):
Oh yes, yes, and L had a partner who I mean,
a business partner I think, who whose parents had some
sort of beauty business. And that's where all this wig
day came from. In the whole business with Al began
to happen.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, but does she start to question that? I think,
and I have to tell everybody everything in the book,
but part of the plot is she doesn't really trust Al.
She starts to have some questions about Al.
Speaker 14 (27:25):
Yes, yes, she has lots of questions, but she keeps
going along with him. Anyway, I'm not quite sure what.
Excuse me, The allergies must be blowing around outside pollins
and so on. Anyway, she went along. I think she
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wanted to wanted to find the root of his charisma
and his also turn off I mean, he did turn
off quite a few people, so she just kept it
seemed like an adventure. I guess it is an adventure.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
It's an adventure until somebody from the FBI knocks on
a door.
Speaker 14 (28:10):
Oh, yes, that's true. But she was sort of somewhat
out of the picture, could talk herself.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Out of it, right right.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So for you, in writing Sunday Jinks, what was that like?
As you were telling us, you know that it had
taken time to put it together, and how fun it
was to do what it sounded like. But now to
have it out there in the world, that has to
feel good.
Speaker 14 (28:39):
I did want it out in the world. I was
at a different colony when I really finished the draft,
but I was still working on it, and I showed
it to two older friends who were both playwrights, and
oh my god, they loved it. They demanded to see it.
I wasn't gonna let anybody see this first draft, but
they really loved it, and I got all excited. Send
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it to my director, send it to mine. One was
in Manhattan, the other one La.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
But I just.
Speaker 14 (29:08):
Knew I had to. I had I had more to
do with that manuscript. I really had to get across
to one question. These two artists did not have this question,
but several other people did. What's a nice girl like
her doing with someone like him? And so I had
to just somehow get some some sense of that between
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the lines. So that took me. It took about forty
years to really write it. And my final one of
my friends in Berkeley had read the whole manuscript, so
and she and I were in a poetry poets writing
prose group, just three of us, So I got some
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help from them, really not much. I'd pretty much gotten
it all where I could send it out.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah, for people who read this book, what do you
hope they take away? They're listening to our conversation, it
sounds interesting. You've got Sarah, You've got this al situation.
You have a crazy wig dye company, and then it
really unravels, you know, oh con artists, yikes. What do
you hope people take away from reading your book?
Speaker 14 (30:23):
Well, I've been thinking about that question, and basically, I
hope they enjoy reading a good story and that maybe
maybe it has for them will take off into realizing
what can or cannot happen?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Right, And that's intriguing. Does it make you want to
dive into another another book, another novel?
Speaker 14 (30:51):
I thinking about it, but instead I wrote a memoir
which has short chapters and it's it's it's very different.
It's not a novel, but it well, it has a
lot of people in it. It's called Three Houses. That's
its working title. Well, no, that's its title. And then
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I initially had it called it Mother in the Three
Houses because my mother was quite a character, and you know,
she ran these three houses. But in each section, for
each each of the houses, one is in the Midwest,
one is in New England, one is in the south
of France. That there are various people that give it character.
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I think image comes to mind, like threads of paint
and so on. House interior decorating that's what these different
people do inside and outside. I just started reading a
rereading a part of it last night. I had to
let it go because I had somewhere to be or
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to talk to anyway, that was rewarding to find it
engaging to me. I don't expect to be engaged by
my writing, especially something I've written a few years ago.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
All right, well, they say always reread what you write,
and absolutely Sunday Jenks is really fun and you can
get it for a song on Amazon and same thing.
We have to look for three houses and we can't
wait to see what else happens in the future. Nellie Hill,
thank you so much.
Speaker 14 (32:30):
Well, thank you, Kate. I'm glad to be talking with you,
and thank you for these questions.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Here's an interesting story that I wanted to share with
everybody they came across recently, and maybe think of how
many of you, whether you have kids, don't have kids,
whatever stage of life you're in, you know, our pets
are like part of our family, there's no question. And
I never had a dog. I've said this story before,
but because my brother was allergic, we couldn't have a dog.
(32:58):
So as an adult, I got my first dog I
became pet owner with my husband and we had Mahalow,
the Golden retriever who people would come to visit me
just to stay with Mahalow. I'm not kidding. And it
was awful, awful, awful to say goodbye to Mahalow. I
never knew what that felt like, and it was terrible.
So and now we have the wonderful Guinness. But people
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have a hard time letting go, and I understand it totally.
It's like they're here today, gone tomorrow, and it's a
short life for many pets. So there's a place called
Honor Pet that opened a ten thousand square foot comfort
center in Los Angeles. What they have there is for
private rooms, interactive memorial stations, community space is grief support
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that goes through the whole end of life thing and
compassionate euthanasia. They call it an eco friendly water cremation.
That sounds kind of interesting. What is also interesting is
did you know this gen Z spends one thousand, fifty
six dollars more than their pets each year than their
boomer counterparts. Wow, well, I bet you that this place
(34:03):
will get used I really do. I mean eighty two
percent and all the surveys, eighty two percent of pet
owners consider their pets to be family members. But typical veterinarians,
even the wonderful ones, don't have end of life care.
It just doesn't. Most of it doesn't reflect that kind
of bond which I can attest to when we say
(34:25):
goodbye to Guinness.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
They did a nice job, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Anything anything like that, nothing like that. All right, Coming
up next, we continue the conversation, this time with Ee Linsen.
I'll meet you there.
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Speaker 1 (38:00):
Ee Linsen joins us now he's joining us from overseas. Boy,
what an interesting life he has led and is living.
And he's writing a trilogy. And the first of the
trilogy is out and it is so intriguing. It is
called it is Good to Be Bad Chronicles of the Guild.
So we welcome him to author's corner here on America
(38:21):
Tonight with me Kate Delaney. Ee, thanks for coming on.
Speaker 17 (38:25):
Thank you very much for having me Katy.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
You know, it's interesting we had a chance to talk
off air for a few minutes. And what an interesting
background you have involved in the banking world to sea level,
traveling all over really seeing different cultures. And I think
part of that your rich experience is poured into the
fiction that you're writing and probably will continue to write
(38:50):
for sure in this trilogy. So for you being able
to do that, how fun has that been or exciting
has it been to be able to write novels?
Speaker 17 (39:02):
Well, the idea of writing novels didn't come suddenly, right,
it was an evolution. But during the process I find
it to be amazing, and using a little bit of
my experience in order to figure out where to design
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the action and the structure in the different places that
I had the opportunity to live in make it made
it very easy. So, as I said before to you,
I didn't know that writing was such a fun exercise,
really intimate exercise, but I'm quite in front of it,
(39:45):
and that's why I'm right now working on the first
of the two sequels.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Nice So in this book, the main character is Christopher,
and he's got two childhood friends and really interesting personalities.
Tell us a little bit about the journey.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
And this book.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
You're not going to tell us everything, because people can
go on Amazon, they can get this book for a song.
But tell us a little bit about the book and
the story.
Speaker 17 (40:13):
Well, the book has the main character carries a story
along it and it reflects somehow or has some parents
with all of us. Right when when we are young,
we are educated by parents normally with a very strict
(40:35):
stringent moral and ethical framework in which you cannot lie,
you cannot steal, you cannot kill, you cannot do lots
of things that are supposed to be bad. Right as
you grow you start realizing that in order to be pragmatic,
you have to push some of these boundaries a little
(40:57):
bit further, but you still have to have a code
on the limits that you want to go. When the
main character confronts really life changing circumstances, he is confronted
with these dilemmas and he chooses, you know what I
believe we all should be choosing. But this brings him
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into troubles and he has to deal with them. So
that's in essence. The evolution of the main character is
probably the most how we can summarize the story of
the book.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
And what's interesting here is too is we're talking about technology.
We're talking about our world is steeped in not just
tech we're seeing that with the AI, but surveillance. And
this is what the essence of this is. How does
he do it? What happens? And what are the moral
dilemmas is like you say, there are loyalties that shift
(41:52):
all over the place, and it's pretty murky out there,
isn't it.
Speaker 17 (41:56):
Well, yeah, in fact, background, you have a topic which
is not a new story. Is well known that government
overreach and its goal has been a worrying problem for
the last few decades, to be honest, for the most
of the last century. And if you look into the
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economics and you see how the sizes of the government
have grown significantly faster than GDPs and personal incomes, such
population in general should be worrying and how far it
should go, and then the what we should be doing
(42:40):
regarding that, And if you allow me, kids to make
reflections with other authors books like Axley or vagas Head
or Marqueers that have mentioned that or announce or predicted,
(43:01):
particularly in the West, that the individuals are losing interest
of being free in order to be comfortable, and what
this implies for the society. Right, So in front of this,
when you have the resources and you are intellectually well equipped,
you should challenge what you should be doing. And that's
(43:23):
the background of the Guild, which is, you know, the
very powerful entity behind the story.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
And you know in this book these themes that we're
talking about it maybe think, what do you hope the
takeaways are for the readers to have from reading it.
I think one of them certainly is loyalty and perseverance,
or two of them.
Speaker 17 (43:44):
Yeah, I think probably you will get this from the
first few pages of the book, right, the main character
is confronted with a very unfair situation and which he
has to either duck and and play along with everybody
else or hold his principles and do what is right.
(44:08):
He decides the latter right, and that cost him his job,
his life, his friends, etc. Standing alone is required is
not something that comes easy in real life. Everybody agrees
that this should be the correct way of behaving, but
that's not what is happening in most of the cases,
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but this provides the character to reposition his whole life
and do something even bigger. And I believe that that
stands of sticking to your own principles, Right, is something
that I would like everybody at least when I think
about my kids, I want them to behave like that.
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Hopefully readers will reflect and if they are confronted with
this sort of situation do the same.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, it's interesting because I mentioned in the beginning Christopher
one of the main character, really and what you have
him doing is so interesting, the things that we just
talked about. You have to decide do you think he's
a villain. Some people would say that, some people would
say maybe he's a little bit of a hero, or
is he just kind of upon circling around in this game?
(45:19):
And that's part of the chronicles of the Guild.
Speaker 17 (45:21):
Isn't it great? And let me tell you, if you
look at the story or not just be spoken in general,
it's amazing how people can judge the behavior of others
in so dramatically different ways depending on what are their
(45:41):
own preferences of yous right. The use of these in
politics and religion, in business, everywhere, right, and the loyalty
of is also very important value, right, And there are
some characters here that play a critical role that are
loyal no matter what. That's also an important value to
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keep in life and family and friends.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
No.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
I so agree with that absolutely.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
So I think that you're having fun writing this as
you travel. Am I right about that?
Speaker 17 (46:13):
Correct? I owe a lot to my parents, write, my
mother and sisters and me learning languages, and I speak
a few in Western European languages, right, And that helped
me a lot. And that gives you also the opportunity
to get closer to these different cultures, and you enjoy
(46:35):
it much more. Right. And as I said before, writing
is an amazing exercise if you do it with you know,
with passion.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Oh boy, that's the truth. And then you and this
is a trilogy, and so you've got your working on
the other book and that's going to come out next year.
Speaker 17 (46:50):
That's correct. I have already structured this story the three books,
and right now I'm working on the second one, and
then we'll be coming most likely to have eighteen months later.
The saipoint Edward.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
It was great to speak to you again. For everybody listening,
get this book and get it for a song kindle
version if you want it that way, That's how I
got it, and get it on Amazon. It is good
to be bad. Chronicles of the Guild under Ee Linsen.
Thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 17 (47:21):
Thank you for having me. Kate.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
I'm going to leave you with a UBI what I
call ubiquitous bit of information. Sometimes the grass is not
always greener. I have a lot of friends that are married,
but I also have a lot of friends that are single,
and we're going through everything with them when it comes
to the twiping and dating and all of that. Right, So,
(47:44):
now there's this new thing called throning, and it's a
new dating trend. You know what throning is. I'm teaching
a new word that I learned that I was like what.
And throning means when you're dating. You're dating someone to
raise your social status. The goal for throners is to
land a partner with clout so their own image of
(48:05):
course gets a boost by association. What and on TikTok
this is all over the place, they say if you
are dating someone and they seem overly excited about your
social circle, and they change their behavior depending on whether
you're in public or private. They are a throner. See
you next time on the show. I'm Kate Delaney. Keep
(48:27):
it here, keep it real,
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