Sudden Deaths, Demons, Ghosts and the unexplained

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
Welcome you to the podcast. Range Brow putre here to
entertain you. We're hit and it's saying you. Welcome back
everybody to the show. I'm Tom kat Ak, Tom Thompson,
They'll Raptillian. You can find my music on all music
platforms under the Reptilian and we have a very special guest.
You've been on the show now this will be your
third time, which is pretty crazy. That true seeker awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'm honestly always stoked to be on your show because
we get into some like pretty wild subjects and honestly
totally enjoy it. Love being here and love the audience
that you have because they're super cool and they add
to the ideas and the comment section, so it definitely
makes it worth it.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Well, yeah, and our audience is you know, we always
joke about how like, you know, taking nothing seriously and
like the idea. The whole reason why I started the
show was to kind of do it as a dark humor,
to give people something lighter to talk, like, to listen
to and have fun with. And our fans are definitely
one of a kind.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
You could say that that is definitely true.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
So I am I've decided. I was like, fuck it,
I have this like one of those I'm trying to
cut out the drinking because I've been microdosing. I got
microdosed a couple hours ago before I came out the show,
So I've been trying to consistently do that because my
brain likes to eat itself about all the stuff that's
going on.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Oh, I totally get it. I totally get it.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
It's it's dark. It's dark. I was even talking to
some of the younger, younger kid at my work, and
you know, I've talked to some people in the younger
generations and they seem that he's like he even says,
he's like, I don't I don't even know what the
future is gonna look like. I don't really see a future,
and I'm like, that's what they kind of want, is
everyone to kind of go down this path of hopelessness.

(02:27):
But yeah, so I started getting I've got new microdose
pills about new mushroom strain that I wanted to try,
and it's always kind of helped me. So I'm like,
I'm gonna get back in the folds of this ship.
But I have I have this it's the kiel A
lemonade and it's actually pretty good.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Nice. I've got some I've got some brew here too. Beer.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
I've put it down just because I didn't want the
label on the you know, on there and get flagged
for that. So I figure, I'm like, I'll just pour
it into a cup. But yeah, no, I've never tried microdosing.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Does it work?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, it's a weird thing. And you said that you've
never you never done mushrooms, right, because yeah, never?

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yeah, do you think they told me it might?

Speaker 3 (03:07):
So I didn't want to chance it, right, Like, I
don't want to chant something and then have like a
greater side effect where it would affect.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
My entire life.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
So I just kind of like keep it clean, you
know what I mean, Like, I've got beer, I've got
wine that Oh, actually, should I show you? It's actually
would you get beer? I don't know, but it's a
it's a German a little bit. So what was it
cutting out?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, it's a little bit. There you go. Would you say,
do you think you get flagged for showing beer?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
No? But I don't know if like the label might
do anything because people will flag it for you, right,
Like it might be like considered advertisement, but it's not
in the sense of the way because you're not really
like capitalizing huge on this and it's not like you
know you're getting paid by the beer commercial. But people
on I was like, man, I don't know anything that

(04:02):
goes viral on my thing. People are like, oh, this
is paid promotion. And then I have to go and
explain to TikTok that it's not before they take my
video down.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
You're cutting a little in and out. So let's hope
that that clears up.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Because on my side, I can't see anything cutting in
and out. I'm also getting a recording error on my side,
are you getting that?

Speaker 2 (04:27):
No, that's not good. So recording, he says, you're uploading
please ask the guests to stay in the studio until
the recording is done. Usually I don't know, like if
you have it just in case, I don't know, if
you have your cell phone near you, I always turn
off my my WiFi is on my cellphone, just because
it takes out one. It takes out one of the

(04:48):
essentially things they're connected to your internet.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Okay, is it better now because I am getting an
uploading recording or and a recording ror sign online? Okay?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
That should it should it should work, It should work.
They should kick in and who knows, I's seen it.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
My good.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
But it's fucking crazy outside right now, so fucking weather.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Right all right, well let's uh do you want to
start over?

Speaker 2 (05:15):
That's looky, Yeah, let's just start over just in case.
All right, Welcome everybody, Okay, we'll say what I understand
it in get this great. Welcome everybody back to the show.
I am Tom kat Aka the Raptilian. I have many aliases.
You guys know me by now, and we have a

(05:35):
returning guest, a favorite of the show. You want to
introduce yourself for everybody.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Hi, I'm Tyana truth Seeker zero one zero one one,
and I will literally talk about any conspiracy and expose
the liberal government for being the pilot garbers that they are.
And I'm so excited to be back on the show
because we always think it's.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
I think it's all governments at this point. That's why
people always try to critique the stuff that I'm saying.
I don't trust the Conservatives by definition their center left
this at this point.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, I don't trust any of them to be honest,
like the Daniel Smith here in Alberta's kicking. But but
I always the federal government. I think they're all in
the same boat.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
But she also plays mister dress up.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah sometimes she does too.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, but so far like pandemic crown right, Like you
gotta be special to like run Alberta because yeah, we're
a tough crowd out here.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
The thing that I'm really trying to to wake people
up to and stuff like that is like the debt
based money system and how we're enslaved by debt based
money like it, And I really want to drive that
home to people because you find the whole system needs
to be dismantled in some regard because we're never going
to be free.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
You know.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's the debt based money system is crucial of how
how this system is created and how it runs this way.
And we did the the Kazari and Mafia and did
a bag deep dive into that, and you know, supposed
to me they got this uh kind of what I
want to kind of gear into on this episode. They
supposed to we got their Babylonian money magic from the

(07:14):
demon ball and sacrifice children to the demon to learn
this method of taking money out of thin air and
putting people in debt and and slaving them. Because first
they're like, oh, we can do it to the people,
and then they're like, oh, you know, we can have
actually do it, we can individually do it, and then
they realize they could do it with governments and then
have the people pay off the debt.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Absolutely. And you know what's really weird is money has
absolutely no value. We put value on that money and
with our energy that we basically use to get that money,
we're basically being harnessed as energy beings, almost as robots
in exchange for something that has absolutely no meaning and
no value because it's a fiat currency, right, it's not

(07:56):
backed by anything that actually matters or anything of value.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Gold standard that we used to have. So we're getting
screwed more than one way, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
And it is it is crazy because like at the
end of the day, like we're selling our time that
will never get back ever, and all that money that
they've sent to other countries and all that will never
get it back. All the money that we've paid into
income tax that we shouldn't be paying at this point,
or the carbonto any of this stuff, we're never getting
that money back. And it's just people that are just

(08:30):
don't understand.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Oh I don't understand it either.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
People don't even understand that the federal taxes basically to
pay off debts from World War Two and we've already
done that like ten times over, so they should have
quit that tax and now they're just adding more taxes.
And people actually think that it's it has value to
pay taxes, and somehow they think that our taxes build roads,
but all of our roads are crap. They think it's
you know, goes towards healthcare, which it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Canada has in the hospitals.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah, they're dying in waiting rooms, waiting like with heart attack,
herd conditions, and they're not getting any of the help.
People are dying on wait lists because there aren't any specialists,
because who on earth would want to come to Canada,
you know, get well pay as doctors and then have
to be eight times boosted just to like work in
a hospital like the.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Issue, and they're gonna it's it's gonna be a bunch
of you know, we're starting to see the side effects.
I truly think that. And I know people that are
getting cancer and stuff like that and that are pretty young.
I had someone fairly close to me in my family.
One of their kids had a heart fucking issue. He

(09:39):
collapsed and they're they're religious, and she's like that, so
they believed that Jesus and his father saved him. But
his dad saved him. And it's just sad and it's
just like crazy as my cousin. So it's like that's
how we're starting to see in the seventeen so we're
starting to see this effect. And if people think there's
no correlation, it's it's crazy. Even the doctor admitted that

(10:00):
there's still a chance that could have been caused by
the shot.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Oh yeah, no, we've we've had we had a guy
who had an eye stroke two weeks ago because of it,
and they call it an eye stroke because they're they're
starting to go blind completely in one eye and doctors
are basically lying to them. Then I have another our
neighbor here basically he had a stroke after his second one.

(10:25):
We've had two deaths from the you know what and unexplainable,
completely like in healthy human beings, after their second one
and after their third one. So I mean, if people
want to believe that it's not and they want to
keep getting it, there's not there's not much to do, right,
It's it's there.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Crazy. So you had a video go viral about that
Bishop mar Mauri. Yeah, that guy's an interesting character.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
He is.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
He definitely is.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Because even his own church, after he started talking anti that,
you know what, the church was like, hey, you know,
we can't really align with this guy, but he just
kept going in his way and he kept telling the truth.
And yeah, then apparently he said something against the Muslim religion,
even though he has said a lot of like you know,

(11:16):
level headed things on every side. But I guess he
made a comment about Jesus being the right path and
that all the other religions were wrong. And I guess
that kid took it personally, and yeah, I wanted to
stab them, and thankfully the knife actually didn't.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Seems like he was kind of possessed by a demon.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Oh, I think he didn't look okay, like, especially when
they were like holding him down.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
That was wild.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, I've seen some weird things in my life, and
I've seen friends that you know, are a certain way
when they're sober, and then when they drink, they become
a different person. And I've always believed that there is
a possibility that demonic entities can attach to you, because
you know, alcohol is called spirits, and they're able to
take control of you in those altered states of consciousness.

(12:01):
And I think it's quite possible.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Oh, one hundred percent, because there's actually a saying, I
don't know if it's an old or old Armenic language
all coolhool, which basically means soul.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Draining, sol devour, so ea, yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Sole devour or something in that sense of the way.
And so yeah, people's personalities completely change and they say
that it's the inhibition that's inside that comes out. However,
I don't know if that is because I know, if
I'm like drunk or whatever and I'm outside, I always
make a lot.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
More friends, and I'm like the friendliest person.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Like I'm hugging, I'm you know, making jokes, compliments in
the girl's bathroom, I'm making like ten friends.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
So it just I think it depends on the person
and how they you know what I mean. So it's
definitely not an inhibition in that sense of the way.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Now, And it's just weird. I've seen. I've seen some
weird stuff like I've always talking about, like you know,
I want I want to ask if you've had any
paranormal experiences because I kind of wanted to get into
the talk because we talked about conspiracies and government stuff.
But I've I've seen shadow people. I've told the story
on the show many times where I was a sad
sleep paralysis. I swore to God that I saw shadow

(13:13):
people over me and and and it was frightening, very frightening.
And but this was essentially I was at a low
frequency and I was in Cuba and my buddy was
out of his mind, waisted. He took shots before he
went on the on the plane stupidly, and he's running
around the resort taking shots and all that stuff like
you know, calm down. He's throwing up on himself. And

(13:34):
then I see him like shift in the airport. He's
like falling off the fucking the the bus and it's
not good. And I saw him in the middle of
a Cuban airport with just pajama pants on, chew his
own toenails.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
No way, especially in Cuba, and they practice a lot
of dark magic, Like there is a huge dark magic
kind of like society in Cuba that's kind of kept
on the down wall.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
I felt like something followed me home because we're we're
in and then like this whole like thing happened where
there was like a disruption and like everyone like we're
all drunk the night before, and it kind of caused
him like some guy essentially sexually assaulted him. Some Russian
guy came up behind him and grabbed his balls and
he was wearing like basketball shorts, and so it caused

(14:25):
this whole disruption on the resort. And then me and
my cousin, which is his cousin, my buddy. You know,
when it would happen, we're all freaking out. We're with
a bunch of people that we made friends with, and
then it just like caused this, but it was just
weird because I felt like I felt angry after where
I was drunk and then and then you know, I'm
listening to this stupidly like this is like when I
was nineteen, so like fucking fourteen years ago, thirteen years ago,

(14:47):
and I was like listening to like David Ike on
the plane, like I say, like a download onto my iPod,
which I don't know, probably didn't help my my subconscious
or whatever. But then when I got home, it just
the low vibration and I swear, I said, but I've
never seen him act like this. I've been drunk with
a numerous times. We were like teenagers, and it's like
something flipped the switch and then he was like screaming

(15:09):
for Castro cube. I've told the story before. It it's
just like scary shit man. And we thought and I
thought he was gonna get arrested or whatever. But have
you ever had paranormal experience? Have you ever experienced anything paranormal?

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (15:25):
So you know how we flip houses and stuff. We
were in this one house and we didn't we bought it.
We didn't know, but the not the previous owner, but
the owner prior to took his own life, and yeah,
and so I I for whatever reason, we're sitting on
the couch, like my husband and I are sitting on

(15:45):
the couch or watching TV, and for whatever reason, I
look over to the garbage can, like there was no noise, nothing.
I look over to the garbage can and my husband
looks and he's like, what are you looking at? And
I was like, I have no idea. And the garbage
can moved, like it literally tottered, and my husband's like
what was that? And I was like, I have no
idea what that was. And he's trying to like rationalize it, right,

(16:07):
and he's like, maybe there's a mouse, maybe it's something.
So we both get up, we pause the TV. We
both get up, and we start looking around the garbage bin.
Literally nothing not a mouse, nothing, And I've got cats, right,
so like it's highly unlikely that there's going to be
a mouse without those two knowing and like chasing it, right,
And so it moves and I'm like what was that?
So I then go and I'm building the edging around

(16:30):
the house like with the garden, and I found a casing,
a bullet casing for a shotgun, and I'm like what
on earth?

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Why would this be in like the garden, why would
this be you know?

Speaker 3 (16:42):
And so we kind of start asking around town like
what happened, like what happened at this house and whatever,
and we get told that the owners prior took his
life with a shotgun out in the field and that
he was very attached to the house that we were renovating.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Dude, that's weird. Yeah, and your sign. But you're like, yeah,
I did this pretty crazy? Is there anything like? Is
that the only paranormal experience that you've had?

Speaker 4 (17:13):
No, I've had so many. I was in Australia.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
I was nineteen years old, and I'm renting a room,
right because like you're nineteen, uh, like you know you're
not going to rent a whole place by yourself. I'm
renting a room and at three thirty three am, and
this is before I knew anything about numerology and all
of that stuff, a loud thumb happens in the living room. Now,
I'm renting a room from like two seniors. They're both

(17:38):
like seventy eighty years old, and so I go outside.
I go outside my room to the living room area,
and the clock fell off the wall at exactly three
thirty three, and so I'm like, okay, must have been
I don't know, something knocked it off the whatever. I
go back to sleep, something woke me up and I
saw a figure of a man in blue pajamas that

(17:59):
almost seemed like grubs, like an old like guy, just
staring at me. So I told this story to this
older couple in the morning, like while I'm having my
tea and I'm describing what he looks like, and the
lady goes, that sounds exactly like my brother because we
had actually put him in an insane asylum and he
passed away like five six seven years prior to like

(18:22):
me renting anything from them. That was like my first
kind of like paranormal experience in that sense of the way,
and that.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
Scared the absolute daily.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Like, dude, it cut me, Like I had problems falling
asleep after that, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Because they kind of what I believe. You know, I've
messed around with Buigi boards a lot in my younger life,
and you know, we do my graveyards. Nothing would happen.
And then obviously as I got older, I'm like, these
people would not go to this, but they wouldn't end
up there. They wouldn't when they leave their body, they
wouldn't be in some graveyard. They would go where they

(18:57):
felt at home or where you know, they felt comfort
and stuff like that. And that's where you get the
idea of hauntings, where it's like, well, this person die
in the house, but they could certainly go to you know,
maybe don't how the astral world works. I have different
ideas of how it could work. You know, if you're
if you're somehow I've known people that talk to psychics
that have seen into their past lives and stuff like that,

(19:18):
and it seems like if you don't know you're dead,
if it's traumatic and fast, you could live kind of
in this purgatory. And I've heard that it's like it
looks like Earth, but it's like a lot darker and gloomier.
And and they can see people in some some stories
and lore and they just can't talk to them or
you know, and they fit and they've tried talking to
people they can't. It's like what you kind of see

(19:40):
in movies. And but they would go back to a
place that they feel more comfortable in. And I'm always wandered,
like because I feel like you could probably think about
a house and then you would appear there. I don't
know exactly how any of that works. One day, I'm
sure i'll find out, but it is very weird because
they would they would go back to where they felt
comfortable and where they their memories are right.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
So dead, Oh dude, I've actually thought about that.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Like, you know, you watch The Silent Hill or was
it it's that movie where she's like all in fog
and she didn't realize she's dead and you don't even
realize that the character is dead until.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
The end of the movie.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, Well there's one where where it's like I think
the hills have Eyes or the Silent Hill or something,
and I.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Yeah, Silent Hill, that one.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
And I heard that they transfer energy because like, once
you leave your body, you're just energy and so whatever
you spent most of your time in and you transferred
energy with, that's where your energy stays. And it's that
energy that actually starts to create an energy within the
area that you're in.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
That's what I heard.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
But well, if you are just energy at the end
of this so, because as we're talking about Bishop marmari,
let's just play the clip of this weird thing. So

(21:26):
for the people that can't see the video, and you
pointed this out on your video that went pretty viral
of this, people are outside, they're kind of there, are there.
They want justice essentially for the boy that stabbed the bishop,
and everyone's freaking out. No one seems to notice this
shadow thing. It looks like a fucking spider that climbs

(21:47):
up the wall. And when you pointed that out, I
was like, whoa, because I didn't like I Actually when
I first heard about this was because of your video. Uh,
you know, because I try not to spend too much
time on social media. I post a lot of like
my own stuff and trying to wake up people, but
I'm trying to read and research for the show and

(22:08):
not spend so much time on social media where even
I do the same where I'm like, he's yelling about
how bad things are, and so I'm trying to like
just do my own research because I've done this for
a very long time, Like I said, eats out my mind.
So and I saw that and I was like, that's
fucking weird, dude. I saw it.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
So I'm looking at tiktoks about you know, Bishop Marmari
and then the news actually showed that clip. They're like, oh,
there's a riot happening outside of the church right now.
Like the people want that boy, you know, released by
the cops so they can I'm pretty sure they want
to beat them up. And so they were getting mad
at the cops and throwing things at them, and no
one is even paying attention to the background.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
And I caught the corner of my eye and.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
I had to watch it, like, I don't know, probably
like fifteen to twenty times, and I'm like, what is that?
And so then I post it on like all my platforms,
and somebody on X found a longer clip where it
looks like it's crawling up the wall. It falls back down,
and then it crawls back up the wall again on
the other side, and the guy slowed it down and

(23:13):
put all these filters on there, and it was just wild.
And I was like, I have no idea what that is.
But after twenty twenty, honestly, a portal could open up
right in front of me and I'd be like, you
know what, I think it's cheaper to get abducted by
aliens than pay the carbon tax.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
I think I might go you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, yeah, well it's it's crazy because like and who
knows what that actually? It looks like a fucking spider.
And what we're going to bring up in a little
bit is there's some demons that supposed to look like spiders.
I think that's yeah, there's the bel's above looks like
a fly. So but it's there. It's very weird and creepy.

(23:49):
The fact that there was some shadow form that looked
like a massive spider, like a spider, you know, as
big as my body crawling up a wall, and that
kind of freaked me out. And the things I've seen,
I've had my own experience, as I've said, and fucking
the fans know, I've told the story somebody times about
my shadow people experience, and that I tend to as

(24:09):
long as you sound sane in pretty credible, I tend
to believe people that maybe have experience of being abducted
by aliens or seeing ghosts or whatever it might be,
because I've had my own experience that was as real
as waking life. I was awake, I was sober, and
I saw like an eight foot tall shadow person looked
down at me like it's as I walked was wide

(24:30):
awake and walked towards my door to take a piss,
where I was actuallyying to shake myself out of this.
And I remember looking in the mirror and being like,
what the fuck's going on with you? But like I
saw this thing and it looked down at me, and
it was massive and like seven eight foot tall and
looked down like I've seen weird shit. And that is
like after a traumatic event, someone getting horribly like stabbed
up by a kid that definitely seems possessed by something,

(24:55):
you know, Because if Islam is really this religion of peace,
why the hell would you be doing any of this stuff,
Because in the eyes of your God, you should be
going to whatever hell they believe in. Because I'm not religious,
but I do think that there is I think there
is consequences for the decisions we make here, and I
think that we're it's a lesson. We come here to

(25:15):
learn a lesson and to become better souls or whatever
we are beyond this, and then we come back. If
we don't learn our lessons, you're coming back, like you know,
and you're gonna keep repeating these patterns until you finally
get it or The scariest thing, right, is that we're
in a soul prison, that we're in a prison planet
and we get reincarnated constantly to harvest our souls, which

(25:36):
I really hope it's a ladder on that one.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
But actually there's weird.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
It's weird to you because I've heard of the prison
planet on theory and there is a way out, and
it just basically states, don't go towards the light at
the end of the at the end of your life,
just don't go towards the light, because that's when you
go to the real judgment where they apparently weigh your
heart against the feather to see if you have learned
all the lessons, and if not, you get sent back

(25:59):
to prison planet and you do this garbage all over again.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
And trust me, this is a lot of time. I
want to be here.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, me too, And I feel like I've definitely been
here before. I always thought when I was a kid
that I was like made from a different planet. Or
I had an interesting guy on doctor Christopher Macklin, and
he claims he's connected with alien beings. And I'm the
type of person I'm like, I'll let you talk and
I'll just you know, I'm not gonna shun you or
or make you feel bad or question you too much,

(26:27):
because you truly obviously believe this. And he was like.
I was like, you know, all the stuff that's going
on in the world, and I was kind of having
like a down day, and he made me feel better
because he was like very positive love and light. You know,
we are connected to these beings that are also influencing
us positively. And I was like, Okay, I hope you're right. Man. Yeah,
he claims again channel beings and is closed portals over

(26:49):
a ranch in near area fifty one, And I was like, maybe, man,
maybe that's crazy. It's an interesting dude. What'd you say?
Sorry cut out?

Speaker 4 (27:03):
Oh sorry? Is he like the Swiss guy? Is he
from Switzerland?

Speaker 2 (27:07):
By any chairs? He's now he's British Like it kind
of like a someone like a like a not as
popular David I kind of character where like he believes
he's connected. Well, David I doesn't even believe he's connected
sign but he's exposed his stuff. But he melch Is
as I think he called him. He claims to be
connected to these beings, these spiritual beings, and that they're
they're positive edgery. The weird thing is too. I got

(27:29):
my uh a wife a tree of Life necklace for
a birthday, and then a week later when I did
the stream with him, he had a tree of life
like lit up thing in his background, and I was like,
a little weird, weird coincidences.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Okay, that's kind of cool. That's that's definitely cool.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
I gotta go check that guy out because that sounds
exactly like the guy who wrote the talent of.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, I'll send you the episode. Yeah, I would like
to h I would like to dive into that stuff
at some point too, just for ships and giggles. I'll
show you this. I just saw this video and it
kind of creeped me out. I hope this is a costume.

(28:27):
I really hope that is a costume that looks like.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Those Amazonian owls. They're actually the size of human beings.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
What, Yeah, have you seen those? Google? I think they're
they're a type of not owl, I think egle.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
I've seen pictures of them where they're standing next to
a full grown man and they're the exact same size,
and I think they're called the Amazonian eagle or hawk
or something.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
And it looks exactly like that, and people have confused
from jins.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
That's crazy and that's why I play. I saw that
video and I was like, weird, that's uh, that's so bizarre,
but like pretty pretty weird stuff. Like imagine actually seeing
that thing and you didn't know what it was, and
for all the audio listeners, it's like some weird like
demon creature. It looks like a devil kind of thing. Yeah,
those Yeah, it does.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Kind of look like yeah, it kind of looks like
it is huge. It is massive, like they are I
think I think their wings.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, if you see like when they're holding them and
then there's one where there's a guy sitting, Yeah, like
they are.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
That is frightening. It's kind of crazy when nature produces.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
It is really and if it's like so crazy, look
how big they are.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Wild. Well, imagine you're that woman. And if that video
is real, who oh sorry, if that video is real,
who knows if it is, I don't know, Like, but
the thing is, it looks creepy if that's a costume,
just for that because I haven't seen that costume ever before,
as the first time I seen something like that. Sometimes
you see videos where it's like you he bought that
at a store, made it himself. But just it's weird

(30:12):
because I don't think, like, I don't know, what do
you believe when it comes to like the devil, and
do you think that as a being it exists? Like
there's people I think that Satan is different than Lucifer
and that they're different beings and stuff like that. If
if anything, no, it's it's.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
The same thing.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
And then you've got the fallen angels. And what's really
weird is they say that some of the demons can take.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
On bird.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Bird forms, that some of the demons can like one
demon apparently can come in the form of a peacock
or something. I'm not really like familiar with demonology. I
should probably read a bunch of books on that, just
so like I can educate myself. But that they can
take forms of birds, which is why in the Egyptian
like goddess and pharaohs they had like the bird beaks

(30:59):
and all of that stuff. So is this actually like
nature made or is it something copying like the Amazonian
eagle and it's in a form of a demon one Like, honestly,
there's so much unexplainable stuff and we trust science way
too much in the sense of the way that we're
not even asking questions that science can't really explain to

(31:20):
really kind of dig deeper in there, to expand science
in that sense of the way we're only actually kind
of studying things that we can feel, touch and see
or record with special machinery, even if we can't see
it because it's on sub atomic sizes. But we're not
really actually knowledgeable on a lot of the things that

(31:42):
happen on Earth. And there's so many corners of the
planet where weird things happen that are completely unexplainable by
science or logic.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Even using just logic, you can't really explain it.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
With like the ocean, they have no shit they technically
what they claim. Because there's people that truly belie the
Earth is flat. And I've always been like, I don't
fucking know, man, we made we did an episode, we
made fun of it, but there is compelling evidence that
people really try to push. I've always been more believer
that we're in a simulation. Doesn't really fucking matter. At

(32:14):
the end of the day, we live in and probably
simulate type reality, and the who the Earth could be hollow.
There's a lot of like there's there's weird stuff when
it comes to that, but you know, the we discovered
more things in space we've gone out to We understand
space more than we understand our own oceans exactly.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
And I find that really weird because if you look
at like Marianna's Trench, it's the deepest part that we
have discovered so far, and then we discover that there's
oceans underneath our oceans with a different salt density where
you can literally just walk like you're not floating.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
So and we haven't explored that at all. So what
I mean, what is in Marianna's trench?

Speaker 3 (32:55):
You know, no one kind of crache out there because
of the pressure and everything, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Is there like intelligent beings like us down there?

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Is that that would be interesting? And then why do
they say as above so below? So is space basically
the same as like the depth of our oceans in
that sense of the way.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Well, you know, and yeah, there's people that claim that
there's a guy like there's fish righting from the skies
and he's like it's a hole in the firmament, and
I'm like, I don't know about that, but like, you know,
fucking crazy that be? How crazy that be? If above
us it's it's it's a dome, and then there's actually
like water above us, and then somehow with leaks or
some shit, and there's like fish flying out the sky

(33:36):
and you're like, what the fuck is happening? Be eagles
dropping that shit off? But there's a lot of weird
stuff that they unexplained mysteries. I have one more clip
and then I kind of want to get in some
other stuff with demons and shit. But this is bizarre
because have you ever experienced the paralysis?

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah, oh yeah, I have, especially Yeah, if I'm super
stressed out and then I go into deep sleeps.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
I've had the same dream, and I know exactly how
it starts. It feels so real.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
My subconscious is telling me to wake up before the
sleep paralysis kicks in, but I never wake up, and
then I wake up with the shadow being at the
door every single time, every single nightmare.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
You wake up and see it. Yeah, I think it's
feeding off you. I wonder. And my my my buddy
is Christian and uh, he's been on the show many
times at this point, and he believes he's had he's
had like weird like he's he's actually astro projected. He
dated a Wicca, a Wickan or whatever, a witch essentially,

(34:36):
and her mom was one. And then so they taught
him at astro project and he did it and and
it's such such a crazy story because like he felt
he saw his own body, he left his body, he
saw his himself lying on the bed, and then uh,
he's kind of walking around a bit and then he's
heard like he heard like a doorbell going off right

(34:59):
and was like, what the hell, well is that kind
of thing? And then he kind of snapped out of it.
The weirdest thing is though his dad heard the doorbell.
The doorbell, he's sounded like someone was just like consistently
pressing it over and over and over again. And then
when he opened the door, there was nobody there and
and frightening is and I and he's like I can

(35:19):
my dad will tell you this is like true. And
his dad's like super deep into conspiracy stuff. Actually one
of the old like he's in his I think probably
early sixties, and he's I talked to him all the time,
and he's for his age bracket, like he knows some shit.
He's retired, so all he doesn't spend time reading like
all these articles and stuff and uh. And then Brett's like,

(35:39):
you know, supposedly because I'm Christian, they the Wicked the
mother of the girl who was day and told him
that it is because like he's more essentially because he's
Christian and connected to more to the christ consciousness in God,
that they'll attack him. And she's like, he didn't open
the door, did you? And he's like, no, no, no,

(36:00):
my like I woke up before that and my dad
heard it. And she's like, if you would have opened
the door, you would have let something in forever.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
Yeah, that is insane.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
And I've heard other stories like that and this. My
buddy doesn't even like have the internet out where like
his parents do it their home. Be lives like way
back in their property and he doesn't have internet. He
doesn't like it signed into anything like, there don't be
no influence from somebody else to like make him make
up the story at all. He's pretty much a country kids.
And it's I was like, I've always wanted to astra

(36:33):
reject and the fact that he achieved it, I'm like
sounds scary though, see.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
That I've even read the CIA has the classified documents,
and they also leaked like a bunch of accidental documents
basically stating that astral projection is real and how it
can be done. Like it's insane, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
That's what's funny with people like my buddy Mike, one
of my co hosts, Billy that's been on the show
since I've kind of created. Oh, he doesn't like she
has trust psychics. I'm like, well, your government thinks that
they exist because they've literally done studies into psychic phenomenon
and stuff.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
So and spent millions and millions of dollars studying it,
you know what I mean. Like, if the government's spending
money on something, studying something that especially, you know, something
that is so paranormal in that sense of the way.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
There's got to be some truth to it.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
They wouldn't just like spend millions and years and decades
on the subject and still studying it while giving us
like their initial kind of bs things that they've made.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
But who knows, it's so true. So check this out.
This guy claimed that he kept having suprousis and said
that he felt like something on top of him. I've
had this, so I've had sleep Prouss one time other
than my experience of the shadow people, and it felt
like when I opened my eyes, it was still and
I couldn't move my body, and I was seeing these
shadow of people when I opened my eyes. When I

(37:53):
closed my eyes, I was picture of my buddy that
got left in Cuba essentially because he had he had
to stay because he was drunk. So I was just like,
you know, I was thinking about him, and then he
and my eye was gonna get arrested, you know, by
the Cuban government all this shit, And it's just like
a story that's always stuck with me because it was
so real to me. And I've never had sleep processes
only one other time. And this house was it was

(38:17):
at the street called thirteen Bailey, So the house was thirteen,
which is probably not a great number to begin with.
And there was this dark energy in this house from
my past. And I was I was young, and and
and guy got arrested and I was like drinking and stuff.
I was doing stupid shit, like being a dumb kid,
trying to suppress all my feelings with alcohol, and it

(38:37):
was just a And I used to play Wiji board
all the time, like all the time didn't care, and
then my Jamaican it was like, don't play it by yourself,
and so I started using it by myself. And because
I didn't want to, I didn't. I wasn't afraid of anything,
so I just kept doing it. And I swear to God,
there's probably things that are like connected to me. At
one point, the Wigi boar told me there was nine
spirits attached to me and some were good and some
are bad, and I was like, that's fun. My mom

(39:00):
was a reptilian. It said the most crazy shit, and
I was like, how am I making this up my head?
If this is fake? And I felt my hands being
pulled by it. I felt something pull my hands by myself.
So there's this weird, ominous feeling when it comes to
this house. And there was one time where I was
sleeping on my stomach and I had sleep paralysis and

(39:20):
I couldn't lift my body up and it felt like
something was sitting on top of me.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
That's insane, that's scary.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
But I've had that same feeling, like sleep paralysis is
absolutely and it's always accompanied by a nightmare.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Like it's never a sleep paralysis.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
A night there no, no, no, no, it's have you
ever heard the night Hag?

Speaker 4 (39:41):
I have, Yes, I have.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yeah, Yeah, this is so crazy because this is like
the this is an old painting from seventeen eighty one.
The nightmare, uh, and it's the nightheg is essentially a
name given to a supernatural creature, commonly known with the
phenomenon of sleep paralysis, is a phenomenon which a person
feels during the presence of a supernatural, malevolent being, which
immobilizes the person as if sitting on their chest or

(40:04):
on their foot of the bed. The word nightmare or
a nightmare night's mayre was used to describe this phenomenon
before the word received its modern and more general meaning,
Which is kind of crazy because like, and there's like
more to this, especially out east and it's connected to
Canada and out eastern Canada. There's a lot of folklore

(40:25):
to do with the night hag or the sleep hag.
There's different versions of it. And uh, it's I eventually
maybe want to call the old Hag. Some people call
it and eventually we'll cover at some point. But because
it is even that phenomenon and lore has a lot
to it, more than people thinking it, a lot of
it resonated with Canada out east and I think Newfoundland

(40:48):
or Nova Scotia.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
That's cret weird.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeahound Newfoundlanders, Newfoundlanders call for the old hag.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
I love how you pronounce it properly. I'm like, Newfoundlanders, Newfoundlanders.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Do you think it's great?

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Mopies because a bunch of them up north here, so
they're like noofound Landers.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
And that's how I kind of learned. And I swear
I pronounced it wrong them.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
It's just so funny because I just like, I always
making fun of grammar, especially because I'm most I'm drinking
on the show, and I was like, I don't give
a ship, so let's just play this last video. I'm
not gonna start bringing up some deem and stuff. So
this is just weird. If this is real, it's weird,

(41:59):
pretty weird. Eh.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
That's insane because you can see an energy above them.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah. So he used an infrared camera and then he
pointed another camera at that infrared camera so we could
catch whatever it was, and then just left it on
while he slept for all the people listening. And then
you see like you can't on it when you see
him also, which is kind of cool. If this is
real and it actually did this, because I've seen other
people talk about this and this guy that claimed he

(42:27):
kept having superalyssis, so he's like, I gotta do this
to figure out what the hell is going on. And
then he filmed himself, which you see there's nothing there,
and then within the infrared camera you can see that
something literally crawls on top of him.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
That's insane because that's exactly what sleep paralysis is so scary,
and like every time I have sleep paralysis, I know
I'm about to have it because it starts with the
same dream in the same way, and it feels super real,
and in the back of my mind something is saying,
wake up, you need to wake up. You need to
wake up now before you fall deeper. But the sleeper
out Yeah, the exception video.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yeah, it's it's crazy because like it's just so bizarre.
Have you ever taken a Valerian root.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
No, I haven't, but I've heard that it gives you
some vivid Like, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Take Valerian roots sometimes Valerian root tea or whatever, and uh,
it gives you pretty like it helps you sleep, and
the idea is supposed to relax you more and put
you in more of a deep sleep. And I smoke
a lot of weed, Uh, not as much as I
used to because I can't I don't know what mushrooms
like reset my brain. So since I started using mushrooms,
my toes for weed went way down. Uh So I

(43:38):
can't smoke. Yeah, it's very weird. So I can't smoke
nearly as much as I used to. I can. I
get high at the smallest little joint on four to
twenty because that we're recording this. Just after kind of
four twenty hit, I smoke like this oil joint and
like it took me like three times to actually finish it,
and then I smoked a ton of like before bed
and the next day. I've never had a weed hangover,

(43:59):
but I'm day I definitely felt like I was like
out of it and felt high like all day still,
and I was like, I've never had this before. That's insane, man.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
I'm like, I'm on days off. I'm so tired.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Like if I didn't put on like seven layers of
makeup right now, i'd probably like bags.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
Under my eyes like puffy here. Yeah, like you're talking
about having a nice little weed hangover. I'm like, oh, dude,
I so should.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah, you should. You should definitely smoke up, but like
essentially in like so, it's just weird because I lost
my train of thought, but like I don't like so
I take Vlarian rue whatever and it gives you like
this in depth like realistic dreams, like it feels as
real as this reality is. And it's like in magnesium
could do that too. I take magnesium before bed, which

(44:49):
people would take it during the day. You're doing it wrong.
So I take it before bed or whatever, and that
can also induce vivid dreams, but I've never had something
to do it like Vlarian roots. If anyone wants to
have very vivid dreams, uh, to get some Valarian tea,
I can get whatever store that sells tea. You should
be able to find it, and it will give you
some like crazy dreams.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
It's weird because I'm going to try that because I
I drink like magneture it tells him like supplements every
night just because it helps me fall asleep and kind
of helps me like relax a little bit more.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
But I've never heard of Valarian route and now I'm
like super c.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
It in like a tinsure and it's like it's like
the tintures got me more into that. But the tea
if it does it to me even like and it's
it's like puts you like out and it's crazy. That
was looking the Old Hag thing and is a very
uh it's Newfoundlanders called the Old Hag signs is called
the sleep prouss so that that old idea because of night.
But the Old Hag specifically comes from New Filanders.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
And folklore that they got going on over there.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
I would like to do that. I would love to
travel more. It's just crazy because they make everything so
expensive that like most people are just scraping by. I've
made I make more money than I ever thought I would, like,
I'm making like above what my like wage I thought
when I was a kid, and I'd be in my
thirties making or whatever. And it's just like it's just crazy,
like in this country now can afford shit and.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
No, that's that's honestly why my last hope is just
to get abducted by aliens because it's literally cheaper than
living in Canada, I know.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
And I feel like at some point we're gonna see
some weird stuff happen and I do. I've always believed
people can, like, you know, everyone's like everything's fake and gay,
and that's so dumb to I don't like that term,
because everyone wants to think everything is hopeless and everything's
fake and stupid and whatever. The government's grunning a bunch
of syge ups on us. But I've seen weird things

(46:50):
in my life. I've seen UFOs, I've seen that shadow
people experience proved to me, And there's stuff that exists
beyond our reality and our eyesight and the fringes of
this this world that we live in. And I don't know,
I truly believe that there's probably some positive beings. Are
they like aliens from another planet? Maybe not, maybe they
come from a different dimension. But there's definitely been missile

(47:11):
missile silos that shut down and things that have happened
that we can't explain.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Oh yeah, there's there's so many unexplainable things, especially because
like I work up north with zero light pollution in
the middle of nowhere, and we have seen, like us
on on the drilling rig, we've all seen the weirdest
lights where we couldn't explain them and it didn't sound
like military airplanes. But then again, I don't know what
the military has like, you know, discovered, could be like

(47:40):
completely silent things, but there were things that were so
unexplainable that all of us seen at the same time
looking up at the sky. You know, it's like two am,
you're on night shift, and we can't explain it. And
we've seen like five lights where they beamed up like
really fast after just kind of like hovering very slowly,
and we could hear anything, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (48:01):
So what is it?

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Could it be military coming from the ocean maybe yeah,
in the hollow earth?

Speaker 2 (48:08):
And to be honest, like that fish creature awful?

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Man?

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, right, what's that? Have you seen? What's that called?
That Gambo del Toro film? Uh, Lady of the Water.
That's another one that he did, That one where the
chick fuck's the fish creature? Ever seen it?

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Man, it's a weird film. She like there's a fish
creature in the laboratory and then she kind of like
falls in love with him and and and even though
he doesn't really talk or anything. It's very strange film.
Gambo del does a lot of weird stuff to begin with,
and then they like there's a shower scene and she
like fucks the fish guy and it's like, what's going on?

Speaker 4 (48:48):
That's like that movie Splice.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
You know that Splice where like I don't know what
a pickle actor guy is where they like have that
like Creetu Shamalama ding Dong, Yeah, Shamalama and ding Dong
or whatever, and then like there's like that one scene where.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
He's like he has like sex with an alien. I'm like, dude,
what the fuck? Like why you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Like, oh, Splice, Yeah, I actually I don't know if
I've ever seen that. I thought you were talking about Split,
the one where the guy's a split personality and they
turns like a demon thing.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Oh no, this is called Splice, and it's an actual
Like I don't know who the actor is.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
I think he was in the Pianist series. I'm so
bad with names. I'm horrible with it.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
I don't worry i'd be interested in I've seen I've
never actually watched it. Is it worth a watch?

Speaker 4 (49:39):
It's actually really good.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Adrian Brody, Yeah, that's his name, And it's actually it's
actually really good. Like it's super interesting because it basically
kind of talks about like genetic and DNA and hybrid
and hybridization of human beings with aliens, and like you
can tell that there's some truth in it because they
use a lot of scientific terms that would make sense
and be her act if it was possible. But honestly,

(50:03):
it's creepy because they bum yeah, and then it gets
like let loose and it forms wings.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
So you're almost like, are these the fallen angels? Like aliens?
You know what I mean? Like, there's so many metaphors
in that movie. It's wild.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
I have to watch it. Do you think it's possible
that they already have like human hybrid creatures because they've
tried to, Like I always joke with people saying, oh,
they talked about cloning in the eighties and they cloned
a sheep and then they're like, shut the fuck up. Yeah,
shut the fuck up.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
I saw that, Like in two thousand and nine they're like, oh, yeah,
Dolly DNA this and then all of a sudden they
were like, yeah, we don't know how to clone. Something
went wrong, And I'm like, and then you just give.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
Up on it, Like what, there's no.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
There's that. There's that video in uh on TikTok that's
getting posted or whatever of like all the meat suits
and like it's like I took this from my work
or whatever, and have you ever seen that? And it's
like all these like hung up like meat suits and
looks like human bodies. But people think like there's different,
like it could be cloning technology. Because there's a place

(51:05):
in Toronto called Clone Aid and people can go take
tours there and shit like that, and they're like, waits
I heard that you could. I don't know if you can, dude.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
I will buy a plane ticket tomorrow go see it. Yeah,
and then like do a video for everybody, like literally,
I will do it tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Well, there's one of those shitty rappers, all the fucking
tattoos all over his face. I can't maybe Tiger, one
of these stupid rappers, and he was doing a live
Instagram video and he was talking about how like I've
been I was cloned, and he's like, here's my clone,
and he brought someone onto the live and people were
recording it and it's a guy looks exactly like him
with the same tattoos and all that shit. It's fucking

(51:48):
weird because the idea is you're cloning the physical vessel.
So you probably markings and stuff you probably be able
to grab and then print on the skin or whatever.
And and it's a I've seen the video. It's weird,
and we're eventually going to dive into cloning on the podcast.
I have, like this documentary I'm gonna watch for Patreon
and stuff like that. But it's weird because I think

(52:10):
that it's it's quite possible they've had this technology for
far longer than they're admitting. Uh, and then they drip
feed it in those movies like Sweet Tooth. You ever
watch that show?

Speaker 4 (52:20):
No, I'm trying to.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
You should check it out. I see if I can
bring it up. It it's a it's a show that
Netflix did and it's essentially about like the world is
kind of over and there's humans, but the hybrid creatures
have kind of taken over. So this is the show.
And uh, it's very weird. So this kid's like a
hybrid kid and the world. I can't remember the exact premise.

(52:43):
I should probably look it up right now.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
It's one perilous adventure in a post apocalyptic world. A
boy who's half human half deer searches for a new
beginning with a gruff protector and his protector is like,
I'm pretty sure his humans is black guy. And it's
it's weird because it's they're they're hinting at like real
life hybrid human beings and all these kids were the

(53:07):
hybrids that escaped from like the military uh base that
they had with all these kids and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Very weird because you know they have super soldiers, right,
like genetically modified human beings to make them super soldiers,
to make them stronger, faster.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
You know what I mean, taller, bigger.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
I know China has been working on that stuff. Do
you think we've done it?

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Oh, one hundred percent, We've done it. And I don't
think China's done anything. All they do is copy us,
so you know what I mean, China has never invented anything.
All they do is steal information and make it cheaper
and then sell it back to us.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
That's that's literally sounds.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Like the Jews. Well like now that's being exposed to
the first time ever to be honest with all the
stuff with Israel and stuff, and I don't want to
get into it two West ago like this YouTube, but like,
come on, people, if you don't see the right on
the walls with all this ship and the connections to Israel,
with the dual solationship in the United States now on

(54:06):
the Conservatives side, on liberside or Democrats or Republics, the Republicans,
they're all fucking funded by APAK. And it's just like,
I don't know how people don't see this ship.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Oh dude, you know, same bird, different wing. That's what
I've always said.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
I'm like, I've said this since I was a kid.
It's so crazy if you don't see this ship. I'm like,
when as a teenager, I was like, through all the
fucking safe I voted one time, one time, uh and
and in my life and that was when Trudeau called
that'snap election and then I wore my fuck Trudeau sweater
and then I guess I was. I was talked to
Jeremy McKenzie about it and he was like, they could

(54:40):
get arrested for that. And I was like, what it's
like illegal And I was like what do you mean
and he's like, well, it's like you're putting your own
He's like, if they really wanted to, if they're really
coming after you, they probably could have at least tried
to charge you for that because you're pushing your political
opinion on other people during a voting thing. And I
was like and and and I at the same time,
it's crazy because I really believe. I believe it'd be

(55:02):
easy to fight back against that shit. But uh, it's
so weird because I believe, and there's a lot of
people that believe this. ID I was gonna do a
video on this, is that when you vote, I believe
that you're giving your power away. That if you're telling
the people in power that you can't govern yourself, so
you're giving it your power to fucking pp or whoever

(55:22):
you vote for a fucking rich boy jag Mead sing
or fucking Jimmy boy guy's name his names, they're not
even jag Meads fucking James.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
Oh really, yeah, no it is.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
But like I've I literally voted. I vote locally just
because I think locally we have a.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
Lot more power federally.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
It was the snap election for Justin Trudeau as well,
because I wanted that cocksucker out.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
It's finny how that this doesn't do anything and it's
like how many seats? Yeah, and it's it's crazy, man.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
And it's weird.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Every person I've talked to even in BC, like Vancouver, BC,
that's the most liberal like place ever. They're like, we
don't like him, we didn't vote for him, so it's like,
how did he get back in?

Speaker 4 (56:03):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (56:04):
It's all rigged. It's always been rigged. And that's why
it's so funny that like they're giving the immigrants everything
they want right now, but they just want more tax money.
That's the only And to me, like, there's obviously different
situations and why they really want mass immigration. It's obviously
in the UN agenda and all that stuff, But at
the end of the day, the most logical idea of

(56:25):
why they would want this is because they want more
tax cattle. They want more people to pay taxes into
the system where they've now been broke. Like the thing
is where everyone Pierre, Bob Piers are gonna do shit.
He can't change anything now. They Trudeau spentay how much
money more He's put the country in debt, more than
all fucking all prime ministers combined. That's like absurdly crazy

(56:47):
and Pierre's not going to change that. And then people
are like, here's God to do what he can to
clean it up. In the matter of Da Da Da.
Meanwhile he's blicking Israel's boot.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
I'm not a fan of him, Oh dude, Honestly, I'm
I don't think politicians are gonna get us out of this,
and I don't know, Like I'm watching like even the
freedom movement kind of break up because of jealousy and
deep seated insecurity amongst like the people who thought they
were going to be like, I don't know, heroes at
the end of this, and they're getting bitter and so
they're fighting against other freedom fighters.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
And I'm seeing a.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Lot of people give up as well, in the sense
of the way of not wanting to really push and
awake people anymore, just because people have completely gone insane,
especially after this eclipse man something after April eighth, Like
people are slightly unhinged, you know what I mean, And
I think we could kind of have to wait it
out until people calm down.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
And the thing is the way they plan stuff is
not like we need to organize better than we do.
You're doing it on a Monday. Like some of the
protests I've seen, even with a millionaire in March against
the gender ideology stuff that specifically comes in my opinion
from the Taul mood and from Jewish people and stuff
like that, if you actually research it and it's crazy
and then they do like a Monday or a Wednesday

(58:02):
or the Wednesday was the Millionaire watched, and I was like,
you know what you get, Like, people are still consumed
in this system until you convince enough people to maybe
not go to work for a day. But people are
just scraping by, and this is what the system wants. Obviously,
I don't really want to get into this talk, but
I just it's so obvious. I'm like, if we could
grind the system to a halt that people stop working,
but then people are concerned about their own livelihoods and

(58:24):
being able to survive. But if we if every person
on my block had a garden, this person had pigs
in a garden, and I had fucking sheep in a garden,
and they had a cow, and we could the system
would be over. But we've been now phased out of
that idea, like to defend for you to be able
to fend for yourself, to be able to be self
sufficient off of the government and stuff like. So I'm

(58:46):
trying to build a garden and do a bunch of shit.
And even my wife's like, if you can take care
of the dog, a kid in a garden, we can
get you chickens. And I was like, that's a challenge.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
No, it's also it's not even just like the government,
and it's also people themselves. There are people out there
who want to be on top, who want to be
that hero, who need control, and we can never work
together unless people take their gigos and shove them up
their own like behind, you.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Like I've had people on the same side as me
attack me because I got to a subject first before
they did, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
And it's like, yeah, I was gonna do that. Why
would you do that?

Speaker 3 (59:28):
I was already working on this, like with Thorhild And
I'm like, dude, for two years, you've done nothing. I
made a video, made a bunch of phone calls. We
made a difference within like a weekend. What have you
done in two years?

Speaker 4 (59:39):
You know what I mean? And then they come at
you and then they ask you for help.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
And you're like, bro, like make up your mind, like
you know what I mean, Like do you want to
be a hero or do you want results? Like and
if you want to be the hero, dude, go ahead, man,
take the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
Like, do your own thing. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
You know how many times I just like debate about
just deleting all my ship. But I know I've influenced
a lot of people in in a way, and my
videos have been shared where you know, people are following me.
They're like, uh, like I shared my video and this
guy knows he knows you, like a friend I used
to work with. He's like, I know that guy or whatever.
And it's just like it's it's just bizarre to me
because all I'm trying to do is wake people up.

(01:00:16):
And I've said that if I end up making money
off of my show and my music at some point,
I will, you know, if I can live off it,
at some point, I'll eventually put it back into actually
legitimately changing things. But the thing I've always preached that
it's it takes unity and unification of people to change anything.
We're not gonna do anything just like arguing with each
other and letting ourselves be divided, be like wow, I'm

(01:00:39):
gonna vote this way or all that stuff is it
drives me up the wall. It's just so crazy that
people are so stuck in the system, and it's the
police's false, the RCMP is fault. It's all the people
that like if the police actually did something or the RCMP.
And you know the fact that Trudeau's like, I don't
even read my ceases documents because I think they're a
joke technically, is what he said. You know, it's like

(01:01:01):
you don't even trust your intelligence agencies. So it seems
like the whole system has to it's good, it's going
to and it has to collapse. And I think that
we're reaching a point where it will. You know, it's
see you know what, I think you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
We're gonna struggle because this is a corporation takeover of
the governments. The corporations will never cooperate with each other
because they're used to like going neck and neck in competition. Eventually,
what will happen is the corporations will turn on each
other and then they will try and vouch us to
kind of fight their war for them, and that's when
like things will kind of implode on itself.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
But they have never won.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Never once in history have the bad guys ever won,
And if they have, it was for a very short
amount of time until they got taken out again. So,
if anything, history has taught us as the bad guys
have never won, but they just kind of keep trying
and redoing the cycle again. And as long as human
beings do not understand that pattern, we're about to repeat

(01:01:58):
that cycle. But at the end of the day, the
bad guys have never won because the five to seven
or ten percent of the truly awakened can then take
pretty much control when she gets out of like you know,
when yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Think it's it's power to the people, but you could
technically there would be people that would argue that the
World War one and two were won by the bad guys,
by the communists, And even like George S. Patten, one
of the generals, you know, he said he was like,
you know, I think we should have been fighting on
the side of the fascists because he saw how horrible

(01:02:33):
the communists were and was like, we fucked up, you know,
we fought for the wrong side. And and I think
communism is a lot more deadly than fascism ever will be.
And and now we see this where there's communist movements
and fucking Ottawa Toronto, they're marching in the streets and
stuff like that, and I think that's a very dangerous thing.

(01:02:53):
And then it's where that George's Patten mysteriously died in
a car accident in Germany, I think where he actually
actually died.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Yes, we're The thing is is like all the different
political powers, even capitalism. People are saying, oh, capitalism doesn't work.
It works, but you need you need good leaders, you
know what I mean. So, yeah, you need a free market.
Like people say, oh, communism like is so good and everything.
I'm like, no, communism will lead to a road that

(01:03:21):
if you have a bad leader, they can abuse that
system capitalism if we have greedy people such as like
you know, Jeff Bezos who doesn't put the money back
into the flow of the economy and he just hoards
it all. Like, you need to refine a system so
that it works for everybody in an equal kind of way.
But every single system can be taken advantage of. And capitalism.

(01:03:42):
Everyone's like, oh, we're so bad under capitalism. No, dude, Like,
if you're willing to work and you're willing to work hard,
you know, you can actually get ahead in capitalism way
more than you can in any of the other systems
that are in place, because all the other systems in
place cappy at a certain place.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Well, it's like I've always preached to people. I was like,
we don't live in capitalism and even corporatism in the
way that it's structured. And the thing is too that
we've never seen what real capitalism looks like because the
free market has never been free. It's manipulated like a puppet.
So there's no way we could ever experience what real
capitalism actually is. When you have like politicians that are

(01:04:21):
able to sell themselves out to foreign interest. You're Pierre Trudeau,
all the three hundred and thirty eight members don't serve you,
they serve corporate greed. And it's always like, it's crazy
how they go into politics and then they come out
a millionaire. Well, it's and I did a video recently.
I was like, it's funny how the more poor we get,
the more rich they get. They get paid more than

(01:04:42):
they ever have before, and how does that work. It's
not funny how that works out, and it's just interesting
and then you know it. To me, it does always
go back to this idea of the debt based money
system that exists from thin air that was started by
the Communists and you know, people from Israel and the
connections to that, and it's so it's so deep and

(01:05:03):
entrenched with that. It's not people that believe in Judaism
that are bad, because in my eyes, it's a religion,
it's not a race of people. And there's the ties
to the kazir In mafia, and they're actually from Kazar
and they assume other people's identities and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
They basically took on the Judaic religion as a mask,
but they actually worship Ball and so everything that they're doing,
they're kind of making innocent Jewish people look bad when
in fact we're all in the same boat, you know
what I mean. It doesn't matter what religion, we're all
being taken advantage of and mind control and propaganda because

(01:05:41):
of these thirteen families who then take on these masks
of these you know, religions. And I think if people
watch The Fall of the kabal they'd actually understand where
they came from and that they are actually Canaanites or
you know, the descendants of Cain, and that they don't
actually have any religion that we have. They have their
own religion and they worship Ball.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Which is crazy because I'm eventually I have an episode
kind of in the works to talk about the Phoenicians
and then the Canaanites and stuff like that and what
it kind of goes back to. But it's interesting. A
lot of people don't know this and don't want to
accept it because like they just want to live in
their little echo chambers. But if you research in history,
and I eventually want to do like the Villains of

(01:06:23):
History type episodes and stuff like that and dive into
like MAO and install it, and we've covered like Nazis
and the occult and stuff like that. At some point
we're gonna eventually go back and talk about like Joseph
Angela and and they're all evil. And it's as crazy
that there is, you know, as much as like I'm
interested by the by Europe of the Last Battle and
the different versions of history that we're being told. But

(01:06:46):
that's also biased in its own way. But I did
try to fact check it, and it says I was
seventy percent accurate, that there's something that might be skewed,
but I was like fact checking it as I was
watching it, and then it spent two days trying to
fact check it, and it is weird. There's a lot
of correlations with this idea that these people maybe originally
we're gonna fight against this stuff, and then everyone takes

(01:07:07):
money as soon as you get to that power. Even
the people that try to say, like the Big Age
is somehow a good guy. He I don't think he
was a good guy. I think he sold his own
people out, like it seems like all of these people do.
As soon as they get big enough, they start being like, ah,
fuck it, you know, I'm just I'm gonna sell out
my people because I'll make money off of this. Now.
Now he's hanging out with the Reptilians and Hollow Earth

(01:07:28):
or something.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
Somewhere down in Argentina, just like chilling, you know what
I mean. No, it's true.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
And one thing I've noticed is social media, and like
you know, getting a lot of followers is actually hard
because you get a lot of haters and they try
to demoralize you in that sense of the way. And
if a person doesn't understand psychology, so you don't understand
that you're actually being attacked on purpose to demoralize people,

(01:07:54):
then turn on the very people that they wanted to help,
you know what I mean, Whereas I know where these
haters are coming from, and I just like give it
back to them like ten times worse, you know what I.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
Mean, Because I'm like, you know what, dude, screw you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
I know exactly where you're coming from, and you're not
going to demoralize me because a lot of the people
are way better. You know, they're good people and they
actually do have good intentions versus like that little percent
that's super loud that constantly come at you. And I'm like, dude,
come at me, because like I'll just like throw it
right back in your faces.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
So yeah, yeah, so I'll do the same thing, all right,
will cut it there? And you smoke?

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
You smoke cigarettes, yeah, dude, like you I smoke, like
you do it? What I I stress? Man? I am
a stress case. Like people don't understand.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Like I stay positive, but like the amount of stuff
that I read and the amount of stuff that I
know hits me so hard that like I literally you
know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
It's just anxiety, That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
I know it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
It creeps up on me. That's why I tried you mushrooms.
And sometimes I'm like, man, am I even more in it,
Like I've stared through fractals of mushrooms and swear I've
seen like demons and sit like that, and it's just like,
because I pushed the boundaries on those states of mind,
closed my eyes and see like a thousand eyes, it's
fucking weird. Shit. Yeah, I kind of I talk like
people don't get under my skin, right, like I try

(01:09:12):
not to. I at the beginning of speaking out against
all this stuff, like, I was like, you know, so,
how would people not see what's going on? And it
like it used to drive me up the wall. But
at the end of the day, there's a lot more people.
There's more people I've ever seen that are waking up
and people that are like I just woke uple a
year ago, two years ago. And the more people that
we are able to access in that way and access

(01:09:35):
their mind to be like, you gotta think this way.
And what I preach constantly is for people to think
for themselves. You don't have to believe anything I said.
We did a book episode about the Book of Revelation
and my buddy Bread to the Christian whin He's like,
you better repent and all that stuff, and I was like,
I played this funny like I Love Jesus song as
we were like ending it, and I was like, you
don't have to believe anything. I said. You don't have
to believe anything he said, because like I'm always press

(01:09:57):
against the religious ideagies and stuff like that, because I
think that it may have been set up to divide
and conquered people, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
Oh, one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
That's why I always tell people, if you read all
the religions, there's like a clear line between all the
religions where the truth is. So if you if you
overlay all the religions into like a graph like with
circles in the middle, you're going to get the actual
truth on what is what. And absolutely every religious book
is meant for yourself to be translated in your way.

(01:10:26):
But because people can't think for themselves, they look onto
leaders to translate it how they want it to be translated,
and then they follow that in that sense of the way.
So that's why I always tell people, I'm like, you
don't have to believe me. I'm not making videos so
that you believe me. I'm making videos so that we
discuss things because knowledge cannot be erase and once you
plant that seed in someone's head. That seed then will

(01:10:50):
grow on its own if that person decides to feed you.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
Know, the plant that is growing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
If they don't feed it with new information, it's not
going to go anywhere. So it's up to the person
whether they want to be awake or not. But it
takes that one circumstance for that seat to just sprout
and the person to kind of wake up out of
the matrix and everything that we have been sold and
told to do. And so I think that is the
main thing. But then there are people who let their

(01:11:18):
egos and they use religion as a mask to make
themselves seem better, you know what I mean. I had
a lady yesterday on my post on Facebook literally go
off on me. And she's a freedom fighter, it pretends
to be a Christian, but literally came in with like
the biggest hate, trying to lie and I was like, Okay, well,

(01:11:38):
if you're gonna lie, I'm like I'm gonna expose you.
And she deleted every single comment of hers because she
was so dumb about it, like she was not smart
at all in any of her replies, trying to basically
say that she doesn't follow me, but yet she made
her way to my page on my post, which wasn't
a public video, you know. And so it's like, lady, dude,

(01:12:01):
if you're gonna argue me, at least gets on my
que points so that I can make this fair, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
So it's not like taking candy from a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
People are that consumed by the system. So the end
this song, we're gonna bring up some demons. It's gonna
be fun. But I'm gonna since you had a smoke,
I'm gonna smoke.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
Okay, see I didn't smoke that, but like I was
going for the tobacco just to calm down.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Whoo, all right, So this is weird. So I brought
like two articles, but I thought this one was pretty interesting.
And and for the demons that for some reason the
picture is not gonna show up, I'll try to bring
it up. So this is what's supposed to be demons
actually look like. And we'll go through some ones that
most people would know. So obviously there's tons of different
descriptions of demons in the Bible, well Testament, a few

(01:12:51):
descriptions of evil spirits, appearance and physical characteristics, you know,
and there's a lot of demons that is supposed to be,
you know, case you can summon and stuff. I found
out I was like, maybe don't do that. But Azazel,
So this is this is boldly what Azazel looks like.
A half angel, half demon. Name is Zazel.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
And it says in the English translation of the King
James version of the Bible his name is the demon.
Azazel means scapegoat. It's a synonym for hell modern Hebrew
as Azel originates from Jewish texts, and he's described as
a desert dwelling goat like fellow in uh in the
Crypto Book of Enoch in pretty weird.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
And it has come to pass. When I saw the
buds speaking, I said to this angel, what is this?
My lord? He said, this is the disgrace. This is Azazel.
Weird huh. Abraham later condemned the sinner and yeah, interesting
puts uh so he pertifies, I don't know what the

(01:13:55):
fuck that word is in the belly of a crafty worm.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
So weird.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
I just got high though, like not good to fucking
pronounce words. Beelzebub, See this is weird. Everyone hears the
name Beelzebub, and I think he has to do with
the devil and stuff like that. I didn't know that
he's like a fly according to to this Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
That's why they say if you have a lot of
flies or fruit flies around you in a season where
you're not supposed to, somebody actually hext you and all
of a.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Sudden, like the Exorcist, Yeah, and like you to see
moves like that they're supposed to be. Like the guy
that was telling you about the uh doctor Christopher Macklin, Like,
you know, I I hope he believes what he believes,
Like he believes what he's saying, right, And he said
that there's portals can open. You can smell it, like
if there's a weird smell and your sink's fine and

(01:14:46):
and the things in your house are fine or whatever,
and it's only a specific room or place and you
just have this weird odor consistently. He's like, there could
be like a portal that's opened, specifically a demonic portal.
That's insane. So early mentions of the demon Beelzebub, where
in the Gospel defined him as the prince of demons,

(01:15:08):
and the Canaanites or ancient people of the western edges
of the Middle East, saw him as beelz Abub or
the Lord of the Flies. In the Testimony of Solomon,
he's described as a powerful despot from Hell, declaring I
bring destruction by means of tyrants. I caused the demons
to be worshiped alongside men, and I aroused desire and
holy men and select priest. I bring about jealousy and

(01:15:31):
slang in a country and instigate conflict. Very weird considering
what it says. I bring destruction by the means of tyrants,
what we're seeing in this world, and I cause demons
to worship, to be worshiped alongside men. Yeah, really weird
because now there's people that are literally worshiping like demonic

(01:15:52):
entities or forms of them in the form of transgenderism
and shit. So wh's what I think we'll get to him?
What do you think.

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
That's insane?

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
A serpent tail and rooster feet just to first starts Modius.
Originally it's from the Monio Monio Lithics. This is why
I could fucking smoke weed out this fucking podcast. Theistical
is so astrain tradition and his devilish mythology grew in
transforming through Judaism and Christianity. Until he became known as
one of the highest ranking demons ever. Pretty weird. So

(01:16:30):
it produces a gruesome portrait of Asmodius and he is
summarized as a monstrous creature with three heads, one like
a sheep, one like a bull, one like a man.
The man's face may sound like most normal, but he's
pointed ears, a hook nose, jagged teeth, and fire break
breathing mouth. As Moses has, as Modius has a rooster

(01:16:51):
legs and the tail of a serpent. Interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
Interesting is going down to like serpents as well, you
know what I mean, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
It's all the reptilians.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
Yeah, just weird.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
There's so many weird demons. I just want to bring
it because I thought it was interesting that there's like
and obviously a baffo met is a hermaphrodite. This is
a fun time. So the word Baffamin can be traced
back to the Muslim Crusades, and some suspect Baffat is
a perversion of the prophet Muhammad's name, not until eighteen
fifty six to baff and it become known as the

(01:17:29):
Sabatag Saba Sabatag, a colt goat by French magician Alfanas Levi,
sure alfanis Alfonse. It's Phonsie Alfonse, Isn't that? Fonsi's real
name was like something like everyone called him Phonsie, but

(01:17:50):
his name is Alfonsarelli or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
Yeah, something like that. That's interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Levi's baffaint was meant to be represent the union of
opposing forces. For instance, the figure is amaphrodite, having both
male and female physical parts. More Over, Levi's bafamet was
intended to serve as the collective represented representation of all
magical icons from early polytheis fuck. I can't say that
word right now. Polytheatistical or animalistic traditions have survived the

(01:18:21):
spread of Christianity. And what do you think about the
baph met deity considering like it is shown so often,
especially now within our culture and and Satanism and transgenderism
and all that fun stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Oh yeah, I mean like society has become completely degenerate.
And I know in the Bible it said that God
flooded us the first time, and then he said he
would never do it again, but maybe he should.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
I'm not saying anything, but like, man, have we gone astray?

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
As a society we are so degenerate, like with so
much information, so much knowledge fingertips, and people still being
ignorant and being completely enamored in this whole matrix and
money and all of that stuff. It just it's baffling,
you know what I mean, it's almost demoralizing just to

(01:19:13):
see how a sleep like majority of humanity is.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
And that's what's crazy too, And that's what I'm trying
to wake people up, because I'm like, it's it's it's crazy,
and especially the last couple of years of like how
this has happened and the erosion of people's rationale in
their head of how they think about things, like there's
people like dressing up like furries and putting kapos in

(01:19:37):
schools and people say that's that never happened, but I'm
pretty sure it happened, or at least they tried to
do it. And it's crazy. And the thing is this
has happened. Yes, it's taken time, and it's slowly eroding
the fabric of the society. And from what it was

(01:19:58):
very purest kind of Christian Catholic where it came from,
it's a lot different than where it's at now. And
it's just weird because it's the last like five ten years,
like since I was like a kid, teenager, and Howard
just shifted like full gear into one like direction.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
Oh yeah, And that's usually when the pendulum swings back,
do you know what I mean? And the only scary
part is is when it swings all the way back
to the other side, where we get like complete lockdown
of any kind of freethinking because people are so scared
of how progressive things got that people can't stop the
pendulum in the middle to find that sweet spot and

(01:20:40):
a balance.

Speaker 4 (01:20:41):
And I think everything is about being in balance.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
Like if you look at like feminism, feminism was supposed
to balance, like feminism is just it went like an
insane kind of like let's hate all men and let's
do this. But I always see men and women as
a balance. So what a man can do a woman can't,
like physically with strength, what a woman can do a

(01:21:04):
man can't do. And we are meant to balance each
other out, whether you're more masculine or feminine, you know,
in a sense of the way of like being yourself.
If you've noticed, you'll always find a partner that will
balance that out. And so That is what people don't
realize is we're supposed to be a balance of feminine
divine and masculine divine. One isn't bad over the other,

(01:21:26):
one isn't lower over the other. We're all supposed to
find a balance in each other. But they pin us
against each other with gender, religion, skin color, you know
what I mean, Like absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:21:38):
Everything gets pinned against each other.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
But people don't realize that we're actually supposed to be
in balance, and that is why everything is like you know,
the infinity number eight, and that is why we have
a scale of justice where things are supposed to be
balanced between you know, like even acts of injustice, and
that's why we have like the process, but everything's been
so perverted with all of this like progressiveness, that we

(01:22:05):
have completely lost balance.

Speaker 4 (01:22:07):
And what happens when you lose balance in.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
A scale is you start having things that fall off
until eventually balance is out. But people don't understand how
to stop when it like balances out, and then they
take it way too far the other way.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
And that's the that's what it seems crazy. Like that's
why I brought the demon thing until I was realized,
like I don't know if I can read after I
just smoke weed, but like this idea of that there's
something like taking hold of our our world and it
seems demonic. It's just very weird because like I felt
this presence recently so far. I was like, I was

(01:22:40):
doing mushrooms one day and I was watching, uh that
was pretty high. I was watching James Brown do an interview,
right and there's this old Vineyar interview where he's like
high on coke and stuff like that, and it's just
like and you can kind of see his face shifting
and it's like a we even even sober, I remember
seeing this. Were just like he looks weird but more amplified.
On was like that guy's a reptilian. I was like,

(01:23:02):
I was like, that guy is some demonic thing. And
then my TV shut off and then the speaker was
still playing, but it wasn't the same video and it
was just so weird, and I was like, is that
you guys, like just like because like you don't really
fear this. There's not fear on this as much as
people would think. I just kind of I pushed the
boundaries on stuff, and I'm not as scared because Zulu
tribes used to mushrooms, then go to war so and

(01:23:25):
and and it was just weird. And then I turned
back on the TV. Everything was frozen shit, and I'm like,
and I've never had this before. I TV shuts off sometimes, right,
but I just think it's a little old or it's
just like a shitty TV. But it it is really
weird though, because there was this song and I felt
some weird And then one time I was like, and
I've had because of my experience Wuiji boards and the

(01:23:45):
demonic kind of seeing weird stuff. The one day I
was like tripping balls. And then you know, I've always
felt like something them was attached to me, so like
on this and that's the way I closed my eyes.
I saw these eyes. I was like, no more of that.
So I was like looking in frack what people call it,
but looks like translucent objects. If you're on a high
enough dose, like a blue Meani, there's certain strains I

(01:24:06):
will do this to you and it's like it looks
like translucent objects like and sometimes they look like patterns,
like like like native patterns like art you would see.
And it's the weirdest shit in the world. Because I
got of know how to explain what these patterns are,
why they exist in your mind when you're on these
states of consciousness. So I try to look through it,
look through these weird little patterns that I kept seeing,

(01:24:27):
and I swear I kept seeing like a reptilian eye.
And it looked like translucent, like you think on a
movie when Harry Potter puts on his invisible cloak or
the Invisible Man and you kind of see like the
Gooby effect, the Hollow Man, where it's invisible but you
can still kind of see something. It looked like that,
and I kept seeing, and I was like, you leave
my space and all this shit, try to get it away,

(01:24:48):
but I don't know. There's always been something that I
can start seeing through this the next veil, which is
like a frightening thought.

Speaker 4 (01:24:56):
That's crazy, but that's like I believe it, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
There's so much unexplainable stuff that we can't explain that
we can only kind of tell through our experiences, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
And so it's I mean, I don't know. I don't
it's goosebumps, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
That's why I'm like, I don't, I don't know what
he would what he would do to your brain. I
don't think it would do anything negative because it can
it can stump uh, it can help. But like essentially
with the neuro degeneracy where essentially like your brain is
like when it gets older, it starts to slow down
and you lose like memory, and it's supposed to help
with all that stuff. It's actually supposed to help your

(01:25:35):
brain and help regrow things in your brain. If you
look up this guy, I should send you some stuff
called Paul Stamm. It's he's on jer Rogan like now
it's I think it's the third time he went on recently.
And he's an advocate for mushrooms. He was kind of
shouting at the vaccines and that they can use mushrooms
to combat the side effects. I didn't like that because
I was like, you're then you're just making money off

(01:25:55):
and I was like, oh, he sold out. He's saying
he shouldn't be saying this shit. But he's an inch
character and like his mom was, he believes there was
cure from cancer from Turkey Tale, a mushroom that I
actually taken a tensure form. She had breast cancer. They
thought she was going to essentially die, they like do surgery.
She took it for like, I think twelve months of
the story, and then they do were baffled, didn't understand

(01:26:16):
why her breast cancer was gone.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
That's see that I do believe because I had a
family member she had uterus cancer and they said that
it was at a fourth stage and she took some
sort of aztec tea from Peru, had it shipped to
Germany and bathed in it for four months and it
went from stage four to nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Like I heard about that recently too. Bathing and stuff too,
like can really help pull things out of your People
were even saying chlorox, you fucking bathing chlorox, it pulls
out shit in your fucking and I was like, I
don't know if I want to try that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
I was going to try that on my feet because
they said that it will it will actually pull out
like parasites and stuff, and so I figured, I'm like, okay,
on my feet, I'll totally try it, right, but like
I'm not about to get into a bathub pull of clorox,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:27:06):
What I mean? Like that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Did you try it?

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
No? I haven't tried it yet because I've been so
busy and I just got on days off, but I figured,
I'm like, hey, I'm gonna try I'm going to try
a clorox like footpath just to see if it pulls
anything out. Because this girl tried it and she said
that she saw like little worms and everything. But because
I don't believe everything on the internet until I try
it myself, I didn't want to really like make a
video or comment on it. But I'm like, Okay, on

(01:27:31):
my days off, I'm actually going to try it see
if anything gets pulled out, and then I'm going to wait,
like probably I don't know, a week and do it
without clorox, just to see if it maybe pulls out
the same stuff, just to compare, so that I have
something of kind of you know, substance and value. I
can be like, hey, this is what happened when I
had the clorox in there, and then this is what

(01:27:52):
happened when there wasn't any clorox in there, but all
the other ingredients were in there.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
And so like, I was actually going to try.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
That because I was looking into that stuff because I'm
like Adam and not get like the strongest physically and
mentally that I can be and stuff like that as
I go into my thirties. So I we're looking at
parasite cleanses and I want to actually, I like Stu Peters,
he fucking says that Lea goes off of that shit.

Speaker 4 (01:28:16):
But he was.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
Promoting this company that does perge. Suddenly and I do
pills for paras like citic cleanses, and I want to
try them. But there's also one you can use like
lemon juice onions something like weird like that, and then
you soak your feet in it and like pulls out
like and people say this all black like wiggy, Like
I'm like, whoah, I want to do it because there's
parasites I think are the cause of cancer. And she's like,

(01:28:37):
people don't even realize.

Speaker 4 (01:28:39):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
They even said that UTIs like urinary tract infections. I
saw a video of a lady that had parasitology as
like her major, and she saw parasites in almost every
UTI infection in women, and then the lab text would
take that out and then make them get like antibiotics.
And so I literally do parasite cleanses twice a year.

(01:29:02):
And let me tell you what do you do. I've
used like many different ones. There's this one amish like
parasite cleans that you can get online, but it's really
hard to get online. Right now, I'm just doing a
store bought from a natural health store and it basically
just it's it's a two week program.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
I do two of them.

Speaker 4 (01:29:22):
So I do a month long program.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
I fasted all last month, like in the entire month,
I fasted, and I lost like so much weight And
every time.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Did you do that?

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
How did you do that? Do a physical job? So
I'm like I cannot eat.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
Oh, honestly, Like that's why I'm so tired. Like people
don't understand, like why I'm so like burnt out. And
someone even online commented, hey are you okay? You look
really really thin, right, And I'm like, it's just work,
Like it's honestly, it's just work. And what I do
is I'll just like load up on food during breakfast
and then I won't eat anything until nighttime and then

(01:29:58):
I'll just drink water and I'll have fruit and stuff
like that just so I don't pass out.

Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
Right, But it's a lot easier doing it in.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
The winter instead of the summer, right, Like, so I
try and make it so it's spring, so it's not
too cold where I need a lot of energy, and
it's so just fast pretty much like it's intermittent fasting.
I don't do it like all day or sunset or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
I thought you were like I did a whole month
that I did eat. I'm like, oh no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
I'll leave in the morning and I'll like load up
and I'll make sure that everything's like organic and nice,
and then throughout the day I'll just have like fruit
and like a lot of water, and then at nighttime
I'll have a meal, but it's also healthy, it's like rice.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
And that's kind of what I'm trying to do. It's
like I said, that's what we're doing, Like I'm trying
to I'm an adamant. I'm being housed. We do like
a shake in the morning and then I have just
a chicken wrap which I make myself with like and
usually try to use like even if I can put
cheese in, I put lactose free cheese and stuff like that.
So and I'm trying to do things actively. And then
we'll have dinner at night, but I'm I'm trying to
cut out I want to cut out like synthetic sugar

(01:30:57):
at least like having natural sugar. I thing is fine
with fruits, like I actually want because sugars like cocaine, man,
I want to cut that, and I think I want
to prove, you know, kind of like get people to
also kind of think about this in their own life.

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
No sugar, Honestly, I've cut it out ten years ago.
Like I don't have my coffee.

Speaker 4 (01:31:15):
I drink it either.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
Black or with just like a little bit of and
it's gross. Yeah, it is gross, but like it kind
of works, you know what I mean. But I literally
do not eat chocolate. I don't eat like sweets or anything.
And if I do, I'll have like vanilla ice cream
maybe twice a year. And if I do want something sweet,
I always go for fruit and I'll make my own
fruit bars, I make my own fruit gummies, and then

(01:31:40):
I'll add vegetables to it too, like you can add
beats to fruit gummies and you just add like natural
gelatin and stuff like that. And so but like literally
no sugar, and it really does help with me. That's
harder to dude, there's a lot of sugar.

Speaker 4 (01:31:59):
It's why like you'll get headaches.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
I'm not even kidding, Like you'll get severe headaches for
about a month when you start cutting out sugar.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
Great, Yeah, that's something to look forward to. But I
like I wanted like, you know, it's it's now or never,
you know, and I'm hoping to have a kid in
the next like year or two kind of things. So
like I I think it's now and ever that we
like kind of like I get as healthy as possible,
as strong as possible, and I think I want to
I want to try to project that out other people
because there's people around me, you know that like could

(01:32:27):
could live healthier within my family and stuff like that,
and I want to kind of try to influence people
to do that because you know, if I can do it,
you can do it. Kind of shit like I struggled
my whole life do drinking and doing stupid shit and
smoking too much weed. And it's finally the older you get,
the more clarity kind of comes through of like I
didn't need to do any of that shit.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
Yeah, and then you start to realize, like the older
you get, how much you can actually notice it. Like
if you're younger and you start doing cleanses, you're not
going to notice anything because your body's a peak performance, right, but.

Speaker 4 (01:32:57):
After thirty especially after thirty five, dude, you feel the
changes immediately, Like it's insane.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
You have to like run to the washroom all the time,
because like I feel like that's an issue where I
couldn't do it at work if I was doing a
parasite cleanse, because I feel.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
Like, no, it doesn't it doesn't make you run to
the bathroom at all, Like it's just the same regular stuff.
Just don't look in the toilet. That's all I gotta
say is don't look after you go. Just just do
your thing, take it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
Don't tell people on mushrooms. Don't look at your own poop.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
It's not good. Yeah, don't look after number two or
even number one. Just don't look, you know what I mean.
Just blind flush that stuff and like.

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
Let it go.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
It's so funny because like I've heard people like, don't
look at yourself in the mirror with your ow mushrooms, right,
And this is why, like I would be there's a
I do think that you'd probably be okay taking it,
especially at a low dose like a gram and a
half enough for liftoff, but enough where you can kind
of see the effects the and the visual thing, because
the craziest thing is looking at yourself in the here
and anyone that's done mushrooms or wants to do them,

(01:34:02):
I fuck a dairy to do it, because people are like,
you know, you shouldn't do that will change your whole life.
But it's a weird thing because you see so many
different This is how I know that I'm high, because
there's so many. When I go into the mirror, I
look if I can see still fragments of my face changing,
and I'm like, okay, I'm still a little high. But
there's been times where I'm in full doses and I
see my face like split into like geometric patterns and

(01:34:24):
shit like that, like the things that I can't even
explain to people about how like in depth of ghosts,
and I stare at myself for a while and it
almost looks like, you know, like that Tool album cover
where it's like all the faces splitting. It looks like
that kind of shit. And sometimes there's mushrooms that do
different things. There's one where like all looked all green
and all these weird green patterns and then split in

(01:34:45):
the middle and I look like some weird Tibetan. I
don't even know some Tibetan statue that I've seen or
image from like Tibetan, like uh art, it's and I
don't know how the fuck the way why does this
to your mind? But it's like the craziest looking shit
in the w world.

Speaker 4 (01:35:00):
See, No, I'm curious. Now, I'm like curious.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
I can send you to a good site. Uh And
it even like listening to Jeremy Mackenzie's talking about his
d MT experience made me be like, I don't I
want to try it really bad because it's something that
like changed your life forever. It's like six minutes, you're
in and done. But the way he described it, it's
like you're not part of this world anymore. He turned
like a cartoon and he went all the way where
I've had friends that've done that, never broken through, and

(01:35:26):
he broke through and he said that they're just fucking
like He's like, you're in a reality that feels realer
than this one. Yeah, and that's what.

Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
I've done anything but like weed gummies, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:35:40):
So like now I'm like super curious because I like,
I love like harder drugs or you know what I mean,
like any part I don't leave my house, so like, yeah, it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
Can heal you, though like I don't think it would
do I really don't think it would do anything in
your brain. Listen to Peple like Paul Stamits might convince
you of that, like in a negative way, right, actually
might kind of help you. But like DMT is like
a different story because I've ever seen comedians talk about
it where there was one one rapper specific because I
followed this like ticket account that kind of like went
off into the DMT experiences and the guy said he

(01:36:12):
lived for three years and another life and he with
an alien girlfriend where she like he cooked, he worked
at a restaurant and was like a chef at a
restaurant and he was dating an alien and he's like
it felt like three years. Felt like three years. He's like,
I felt like I was actually there, and then he
was like I sap on my couch, snapping back into him.
My friend's like whoa, And he's like I don't even

(01:36:34):
know how to explain to them that I felt like
I lived three years in a different dimension.

Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
Dude, that is wild, because I heard one guy used
to go and visit a purple being and then his
friend or like somebody else, like he never told him
like what he saw on DMT, and then his friend
went into the same astral space and some purple being
lady was like, hey, do you know, Like I don't know,
let's call him James.

Speaker 4 (01:36:59):
Do you know James? Say hi ton for me?

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
WHOA, that's crazy, Well fucking who knows what Alex Jones
is or why or who he works for really, but
he talked about an experience. He's like, you're talking about
the evils. There's elves in the DM futures, whatever the
fucking goes on about. And he was talking about how
like people doing ayahuasca, which is a technically a form
of like what DMT is, and they people are like

(01:37:23):
it all in the same space, different trips, that it's
impossible because of mushrooms. I don't know if you can
necessarily say I think you could, though I've heard people
that could read each other's thoughts on mushrooms and some
like that where it's like they were doing this test
and we're able to like they're like they believe that
they could read each other's thoughts. But they're talking about
how everyone saw these these elves, the machine elves that

(01:37:45):
Darren Terrence mckinna talks about, and that shit's like crazy
because if that's if that's real and there is a
space outside of our reality that you can access through
a Loucin to gens specifically like d MT and ayahuasca,
and you can go into the space where they're there's
creatures that live there, that exist there, that's real, then
you know, like that's a real place.

Speaker 4 (01:38:06):
Yeah, if more people like that the same thing, that's wild, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
And that there's people that share the same experience on mushrooms,
but it's not. It's kind of more rare for that
to happen. But the thing is, if these entities share this,
Like I asked my buddy he's done d MT, and
I was like, did you see entities? And he was like, yeah,
I've talked to another body that's been on the show, actually,
Shane from Inquiers of Reality, and he's talking about I'm
pretty sure it was DMT that he was doing, and
he would like go and see the same same entities

(01:38:32):
would show up.

Speaker 3 (01:38:35):
What Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna I'm going to research this
more just to see like what other people have been
talking about just to see if there's like a pattern,
you know what I mean, because if you'll be weird
experiencing like the same stuff like that would be so cool.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
I don't know if you need a good source for
some psilocyb and eventually let me know, because uh, I
know a good site that's kind of it's there produce
near you. So but it changed my life in a
lot of ways and made me see reality very differently,
and it would just be interesting for you to get
to experience that. And I almost suggest, like, I don't

(01:39:11):
know if it. Has your husband ever done mushrooms?

Speaker 4 (01:39:13):
Uh No, he hasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
I think he did DMT once, but he was like
super young and he had a pretty bad experience about
a talking parrot or something.

Speaker 4 (01:39:24):
I don't even know, but it freaked him on and
then he never did it again. And I was like, ah,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
It would be a good idea to have him as
like a trip sitter or whatever technically, but like if
you if you got, if you understood and got used
to it, that kay, this is doing nothing to me,
I'll be fine. Kind of thing. You guys could probably
do it together. It'd be quite an experience, but like
that's what like, I've always tried d empty. I probably
will at some point in my life. I plan on
trying acid before I have a kid, just because like

(01:39:51):
I've always want to try. I've heard twelve hours, so
I'm like, it's gonna be a long day. That's a
long time. My cousin did acid in and then fucking
dudes chase them with like fucking chains and ship and
I was like, that's probably the worst trip that you
could ever experience.

Speaker 4 (01:40:07):
Man actually chase somewhere. It was in his head like
he actually they.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
Were they were friends. Him and his buddies did acid
They went around like uh near I think Jane and
Finch or something like that. They're like I'll trip and
and then these dudes like try to rob them and
they chase them, at least for what I can remember
from the story. And I was like, why would you
It's like be doing doing mushrooms or like acid in
like a concrete jungle like a city. I feel like
it's the worst thing you could do. Your nature and connection.

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
To the peaceful and you know what I mean, like
quiet and calm where your subconscious can't get like overly
excited by things around you.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
Right, you'll be amused if you do at some point
just go outside. Uh, you know, experience nature in it,
because that shit's incredible. I swear trees have waved at me.
I feel like they know that. O. Hi, It's it's
so weird. And even like when Jeremy Kenzy told me
he went to do d MT again and he said
his hand was shaking and he couldn't do it because
it like his last experience fucked with him that much,

(01:41:05):
where he's like, I I like being in control here.
I don't know if I could go out.

Speaker 4 (01:41:11):
That's wild.

Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
In fact, or is it like a pill? Like what
smoke it? The crazy thing is you have to in
the idea so you can. He said, it's like hitting glass.
And I've heard numerous stories ad a co host that, uh,
at the beginning of the kind of show that it
has done DMT a bunch of I have a pen,
you can do it, so but he's like, you have

(01:41:35):
to the bong is the best way to do it.
And my buddy's like he said, he's inhaled at a
bunch of times and the pen didn't reach breakthrough. It's
essentially it's like where you go somewhere else? You started
turning to a cartoon I heard, and I said, like,
the idea of d MT comes from like things like ayahuasca,
and so how was it? And I said that, how
is your brain understand right that like the cartoons we
made up in our own head, So how does your

(01:41:57):
brain understand what a cartoon? You know what I mean?
It's just like it's weird to make that up. And
then eventually you have to do three big halls and
he's like it's painful. And then once you've done that
third hall, you like shoot up. And I've heard this
from numerous stories on this TikTok a Countra and they
and the cool thing about this account is they show
you a animation of what this person was seeing. And

(01:42:20):
this one guy's like eyes leaned back with the bong
and he's like, I was somewhere else the I I
was just in some other space, so real. I've heard
this numerous times, where people lived in another world for
a couple of years, a couple of months, a couple
of weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:42:34):
That's crazy. What do you mean?

Speaker 3 (01:42:37):
Okay, sorry, I know this sounds so naive of me,
But when you say like hitting glass, Like what does
that mean?

Speaker 4 (01:42:42):
Like it actually like hurts when you inhale it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:45):
Or.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
I've never see I've never tried it, but he says
like glass and I don't. It sounds awful, So I'm like,
what does that feel like? And the thing is I'm
the third person that will push the boundaries on this stuff, right,
And that's why I was doing mushrooms. Like first it
was like every other weekend. There's like every weekend. Even
my wife's like, you're on a different level. I like,
I can't, like it's you're hard to hang out with

(01:43:08):
because I'm not in the same mental state as you.
And I got like it was almost like an addiction
where I like, I really enjoyed doing it because I
was in a different mental state. And I've had weird
trips where I've like mixed alcohol a little bit and
like it's you feel really weird. You should never do that,
but uh, it's it's been an experience and I've seen
weird things. I've had weird thoughts, and I think it's

(01:43:29):
something that every person on this planet should experience at
some point, specifically mushrooms, because at least you still feel
like you're here. Everything else kind of sounds scary because acid,
you're the idea of acid seems fun to me because
it's longer, but you control it more. I've heard it
with mushrooms. You're you're strapped to the rocket and it's
just going wherever it wants it to. So if you
have trauma or something in the back of your head,

(01:43:52):
usually the first couple of trips for people, they laugh,
they have a good time, right, and then for once
you start diving into like I did. If you want
to use it for medicine, you can have trips where
it like takes apart your head, like it makes you
like face trauma. Like my mom had a miss she miscarried,
I could have a brother. When I was eight, she miscarried,
and then I felt her trauma during a trip this

(01:44:16):
whole experience. Yeah, oh, then I tell her trauma.

Speaker 3 (01:44:20):
I definitely should stay away from that because there's a
lot of trauma back there that's just like locked away
that I can.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
I could help them, you know what I mean, Like
going through the war, I could dust it out.

Speaker 4 (01:44:32):
I don't know, man, I could be dusted all, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
But I do think it, like especially someone who has
a lot of trauma. I do think it would help them.
I think it would help you a lot of ways,
more than you realize. And it makes you accept things
like the fact that they can give it to cancer
patience and they accept death and stuff like that. It's
pretty powerful stuff. And it doesn't do it in this
like negative way. They've proven there's never been a bad

(01:44:59):
trip that the people that have had bad trips and
clinical studies, they never come it never affects them in
their waking life. It doesn't. They have a weird bad
trip and then the next day they're fine, Like it
never affects especially psilocybin. It's never affected someone like that.
And I've I've I've had I've fucked up trauma in
the back of my head and help me clear that
stuff out and accept, you know, accept myself and my

(01:45:22):
past and and stuff like that, and by the guilt
that I've had in my past. So it's a it's
an interesting thing. I love psychedelics, and especially for people
that have not tried it or or are afraid to,
I think it is worth it. You start slow and slow,
a gram and a half in a tea or something
like that, and uh, it can, and then you bump
it up to like three grams the next time, and

(01:45:44):
then you're pretty good at three grams usually for a
good trip.

Speaker 4 (01:45:46):
So interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
At some point of life and look into what like
if you can look into how it could affect you
with like I guess your injury kind of thing and
just see because there's there could be people that say
that it wouldn't do anything, It wouldn't hurt you anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:46:06):
So yeah, because like my neurologist when he told me,
he's like, you're allowed downers, and then he made a joke,
He's like, heroin is okay, but it'll probably ruin your life,
so I wouldn't recommend it.

Speaker 4 (01:46:16):
I was like, I would not recommend commedy, but like
stick to being a doctor, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:46:22):
But he's a pretty good guy. So after that, I
kind of and then I led a pretty like sheltered life.
So and I found out how like it's weird that
they like, yeah because because of the blood pressure, right,
Like uppers excite you and they get the heart going,
and then that's because it's yeah, so downers are okay.

(01:46:44):
But I just kind of have stayed away from everything
except for like weed gummies anyway, and I've kind of
dealt with things like on my own, like going and
researching psychology and all of that stuff, and.

Speaker 4 (01:46:57):
I don't I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
I just I'm so scared of it just having that
negative effect because it could get worse, you know what
I mean, not just like my condition, but also like
mental health wise.

Speaker 4 (01:47:06):
Then I'm just like, Okay, if I just keep it
under control, like I know, I can have like a.

Speaker 3 (01:47:11):
Glass of wine. Even if I have a whole bottle
of wine, all I do is just fall asleep and
have karaoke night by myself.

Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
So yeah, yeah, we also have had many dance parties
on my jungle, like just Blair music and me and
the wife would dance around the room. But it's just fun,
Like it's just I do think if you researched it
and talk to someone that really knows about that kind
of stuff, especially when it comes to psychedelics and how

(01:47:38):
it affects the brain, there might not be any negative.
It actually could help. It might help your brain. It's
supposed to regrow brain cells. There's like like the things
that the ability of psilocybin to do is pretty crazy.
That's not used as like a readily available medicine.

Speaker 4 (01:47:55):
Interesting. I'll definitely look into it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:56):
I'll research it, you know what I mean, Like and
then I'll see like if there's anything or any people
with my condition that I've ever had it and they've
never had side effects.

Speaker 2 (01:48:05):
You know what i mean, then due diligence.

Speaker 4 (01:48:08):
Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
All right. Well, I you know, I could go on
and on, but you know, we had a very mixed
conversation to say the least, And this is kind of
what I expected to kind of like rant style episode
for everybody out there, uh, you know, and we're going
to try to When we recorded this, it was kind
of the audio was a little iffy, So I'm gonna
try to make sure that everything comes through clear. Uh

(01:48:36):
you know, But I I enjoy having you on, Like
I was saying you off air that maybe like next
time we'll tackle an actual fun subject or some sort
of story or a couple of fun stories or mysteries
that we could kind of dive into, because I feel
like that even a mystery episode about some fun that
could be fun.

Speaker 4 (01:48:51):
Oh yeah, absolutely, just let me know next month, like
should be good. Yeah. So I'm definitely down and maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:48:58):
Some new stories might develop, you know what I mean,
in the news, and we can use that and kind
of play off that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
I'm sure we can kind of see it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:07):
And oh yeah, for sure, because I literally enjoy enjoy
coming onto your podcast. We always kind of like bullshit
our way through like the entire thing, and we can
touch on so many subjects and nothing is linear. That's
what I love about it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
So yeah, yeah, and that's what you It's so funny
because usually we stick to like a subject on my
show and then we tackle that. But with me and
you and how we play things up, it seems better
to kind of be able to just have no road,
like there's there's a road, but it's we're we're we
don't know really what direction we're going exactly, And so
I kind of enjoy that, and I think the fans

(01:49:40):
would too, And it will be fun that to maybe
dive into like some specific or some mysteries. And I
think that all the fans would really enjoy that, because like,
you're a popular guest and I think people value your
opinion and stuff like that. We don't really like we're
a bunch of guys usually drunk or like you know,
drinking or smoking weed on this podcast, so it kind
of adds something different, right, some feminine energy to it,

(01:50:05):
you know. But I could call my buddy Billy fein kidding,
don't say that, shout out all your stuff, let people
know where to find you and everything, and yeah, I
want to give you the floor.

Speaker 4 (01:50:18):
Yeah. Absolutely, it was awesome talking to you. Always love
being on this podcast. And if you guys want to.

Speaker 3 (01:50:23):
Find some of my stuff, it's basically truth Seeker zero one,
zero one one on all platforms except for X where
I ran out of room, So it's just truth Seek.

Speaker 4 (01:50:32):
Zero one, zero one one. And yeah, I'm going to
try and come up with.

Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
A lot more better and cooler stuff now that I've
got days off and make a lot more videos.

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
So yeah, I know. And there's so many things that
you had him getting into where I'm like, we can
do that long format on the podcast, and then when
we get on, I'm like, it goes off into some
totally other direction, right, Yeah, cause I I just wanted to.
I was like, let's talk about paranormal something we haven't
touched upon. Yeah, because we talked about als and the government.
So for all the fans, next time, we'll do something
even even stranger, because I feel like we could go

(01:51:05):
into some weird tangents on the show, especially about some
really weird subjects and stuff that maybe you know, even
sometimes maybe you bring something interesting, I'll bring something interesting
and we'll try to like see if we can get
some that neither of us know about kind of thing,
because that could be a fun time for all the
fans because there's weird shit out there.

Speaker 4 (01:51:24):
Oh so much weird shit.

Speaker 3 (01:51:25):
And I'm totally down, Like you picked the subject, let
me know, and we'll totally dwell into it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
Awesome. Yeah, So everybody you know, give us five star
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For all everyone that watches us on Rumble and YouTube,
make sure to subscribe. I know YouTube you don't really
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and everybody stay strange out there.

Speaker 3 (01:52:02):
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