Marcus King!

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Speaker 3 (01:30):
Give it up for mister Marcus King. Everybody there he.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Is and cool as the dude.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
You sound like a musician the way you talk.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
It's crazy. He's got it, man.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
I'm happy to be here.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Sure, good to be here with you, fellers.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Look over he's tuning the guitar. You're like.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
This next one goes out to the fat guy. I
know that's I'm throwing my underwear. I love it.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Musically, we got a million questions. We got to get
to the backstory. Find out how you grew up. Give
us the origin story.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
South Carolina, Greenville.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
South Carolina. Greenville, so upstate South Carolina. Not a great student.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Let's get that on the record.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Get that out there.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
I want to get out in front of these charges,
your honor.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
This isn't a job interview.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
You're good, don't worry, man. I mean, I just came
up playing music. My grandfather did for a living, and
my dad did.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
So it was in the household. That was it. That
was There was no really other route for you to.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Think, right.

Speaker 6 (02:40):
It was either that or like ministry. You know, it's
like family profession. You should have been born in nineteen
twenty two.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
My only I was going to ask you about the crossroads.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
What was it?

Speaker 5 (02:54):
What was what was the town like?

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Neighborhood wise small town with rurals, it suburban? What was it?

Speaker 6 (03:00):
It was? It was suburban, but it was like a
It was a nice neighborhood in the fifties.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, exactly know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
It was like a mill village, but the.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
Mill been closed down, say no more exactly, So it
was a nice neighborhood in the fifties. Everybody in that
neighborhood was like seventy plus.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (03:23):
My dad was forty three when I was born, and
his parents kind of washed me while he was at work.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Okay, is he touring or was he local?

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Was he?

Speaker 6 (03:31):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (03:31):
So when I was born?

Speaker 3 (03:32):
And was he doing well? Was was he? Was he
doing well as a musician?

Speaker 6 (03:35):
He always did well as a musician, but he was
really working class. He had, like from the seventies to
the nineties, he had worked with multiple bands who had
good record deals, but they always kind of fell apart
or he got screwed out of it somehow or another
because he was always just a guitar player.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Okay, And was he a studio guy? Would he be
a studio guy?

Speaker 6 (03:53):
He did some studio stuff as well, but after that
last deal fell apart in the nineties, in that pelle,
he came back to Greenville and my sister was born
in ninety three, and that's when he like went back
to church, rededicated his life, and he decided to get
an office job and like tried to be like got
straight lace.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
He fucking hated it.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
That guy down.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
Now, Yeah, Marvin.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Guy's multiple record deals all the next thing, you know,
he's selling like ink Town.

Speaker 6 (04:22):
He was working for a contract in place, so he'd
be the guy that's like he'd send.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
People out dispatch or whatever, and he hated it.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
So when I was younger, he started playing music again. Okay,
so he'd be out playing and I'd stay with my grandparents.
But they were from the greatest generation, so I think,
you know, I came up watching TV with them and
it was like Sanford and Son, Jenny Griffiths show, All
in the family, that kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
I know, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
That's what I watched when I was a kid. So
when did you start playing guitar?

Speaker 6 (04:55):
Man, I was like two or three years old, That's
really it was always around.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Were you one of those kids too? Like did it
do you feel like it like it came naturally to
Like were you obviously the world renowned? But like was
it very much like it just worked or did you
work very hard at it or a combination of both.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
Probably I think a combination of both. I remember, like,
you know, I got a like a first full scale
guitar when I was seven years old, and before that,
I had a miniature less ball and I just spent
all my hours I spent just in the back room
and just cranking it, cranking it out. And I don't know, man,
I didn't have any friends. I was just kind of

(05:33):
a loner kid, you know, probably undiagnosed some type of artists.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
You know, the best time though unregulated autism to really
get into a into a mini less ball.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Dude, real good musician is a real red flag when
it comes to that.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
No friends, but he's melting faces in the back room.
He just kind of a new Wami bar.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Man.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
I could never figure out that way. And that guy
introduced that to me like two months in.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
I was like, buddy, you're crazy.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
I could never I can never get past tuning the
guitar uh from the strings, Like you see how it
sounds the same?

Speaker 3 (06:11):
I know, can you tune it by ear?

Speaker 5 (06:15):
I don't know, tun.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
I mean kind of a D flat.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
It was kind of you know, because a lot of
guys do like alternate tunings, like open tunings.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
And shit, like they'll tune down from D.

Speaker 6 (06:27):
Yeah, like I could do Like I can do that.
I do like an open G tuning sometimes. But like
a lot of people ask me, like why I don't
ever use like open E tuning or something like Derek
Trucks would use. But I remember distinctly like being in
the back room and like trying to learn how to
you know, tune it down, tune it to open em

(06:47):
My grandfather being in the you know, the front room,
watching TV, and he heard me like like, you don't
break that goddamn string. You don't break it, And then
I did. I popped it and like he wouldn't the
string for me, and he was just he was really
belligerent about it. And I never really fooled with open
tunings after.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
That, no kidding.

Speaker 6 (07:06):
But so it's just it's tune.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Most times when you play the songs you write, it's
tuned in eat just standard, no ship.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
I always thought that was a cheat, kille to tune
it down.

Speaker 6 (07:17):
You could, you could find some interesting ways to play,
makes it easier.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah, sometimes, Okay, I was sitting next to Let's ball.
She sold your guitar like fifteen years ago for drugs.
What are you talking?

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Look Look at my iband is Look at my squire.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
I had a squire. I had a pea bass as
a squire, pea bass too, a little package you would buy.
I stunk. I tried everything. I was so bad.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
So how far away did your grandparents live from your parents?
What did your mom do? Where was your mom?

Speaker 3 (07:52):
And all this?

Speaker 6 (07:52):
My mom she kind of split out when I was
like four. Okay, okay, my parents my parents got divorce.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Worst damn you are a musician.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
Oh shit, He also said split out.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
Yeah, it was. She was there. Did you see her
at all? Or that was just kind of it.

Speaker 6 (08:09):
I saw her later on. You know, she kind of
got mixed up with some some bad folks here, so
I would see her occasionally. You know. She remarried to
my stepdad, who was uh, he was a really good
guy when he wasn't drinking.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
But I had had one of those, you know, just
like stayed in the same machine, in the same town.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Was she in Greenville as well?

Speaker 6 (08:31):
She was, I don't know where she was for a while,
then gotcha, And then she was kind of in the
backwoods out in this place called Belton, South Carolina. But uh,
my sister and I were mostly at my dad's place.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Right, and it was your dad's parents.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
And they lived next door, no kidd, all right.

Speaker 6 (08:49):
My dad got the house next to them in nineteen
seventy seven for like twenty thousand dollars you know, And uh, yeah,
I just spent all my hours just with my grandparents
playing guitar.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Damn. Okay, that's wild. And how old we are? Your
grandparents at the time.

Speaker 6 (09:07):
They were older, so I guess they must have been
like seventy five.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
And your dad was going for like a week at
a time and overnight.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
Mostly just overnight. At that time, he was playing with
like wedding bands like just good money.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
What kind of local giess? Yeah, gotcha?

Speaker 6 (09:24):
Gotcha?

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Damn. Huh. What was the grocery show that you guys
were going to as a kid.

Speaker 6 (09:29):
We went to Builo. It's a food line, now.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Okay, okay, I don't hate a Builo. And what was
I you at what point you you dropped out of school? Correct?
What age?

Speaker 6 (09:43):
I was seventeen?

Speaker 4 (09:44):
Seventeen, so senior junior, senior year junior.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
It's it's my wat's favorite thing to tell people, and
I dropped out of high school. She thinks it's great.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
It is, dude, it is. I don't know why, but
for dirt bags, it is such a badge of honor.
Like he didn't drink, I dropped out its seventeen.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Year, no friends, no hanging out, No traditional like growing
up high school thing. Did you play like Little League
and stuff like that. Nah, Like I don't know, man, Like,
so you were in that room playing the guitar.

Speaker 6 (10:12):
Yeah, that's that's how I wanted to be in the
Cub Scouts. And it's like around the time that I
was of age to do like Cub Scouts and stuff,
there was a lot of stories coming out.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
That's a great way to this guy's been media trained,
a lot of stories coming out.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
He ain't talking about ghost stories.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
I mean maybe you were uh yeah, okay, yeah, right,
because you're younger, so that kind of all popped at
that point.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
Yeah, Okay, my dad never wanted me to like hurt
myself or anything because I was playing guitar so much.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah, I think if you're that good at a young
age and your dad, your dad's musician, your grandfather's musician,
it's like, let's not.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Go could they could they see it?

Speaker 6 (10:54):
They could see it from an early age and just
like my passionate about it. Uh huh, the hours I
spent doing it.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
You know, what are we talking about? Okay, you're let's
say you're you're twelve years old. Your dad's got to gig.
You and your sister were over at your at your grandparents.
You get home from school.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Three o'clock. Yeah, you're right on it.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Yeah, cartoons, getting something eating.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah, dude.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
My grandmother she was from Munich, Germany. She had this
really intense like, uh, German and southern cuisine, all right.
She was always cooking like something amazing.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
My wife's German.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
So yeah, well, schnitzel. She'd make a schnitzel.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Oh dude, I had. Yeah, that's great. I didn't know.
I I've heard schnitzel my whole life, and then when
I married, I'm like, oh, it's just a cutlert. Yeah exactly,
it's great.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
All right, So it's three o'clock, you get home, she's
got something to eat.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Got something to eat for me.

Speaker 6 (11:48):
You know, I was definitely a bigger kid because I
was just you know, sitting still playing guitar, watching cartoons.
So I just have like wrestling or cartoons on and
just in the living room.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (12:01):
Now, in my back room, I had this little blue
chair TV set and my guitar. I just sit and
play for hours.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
What was that? What was the wrestler of the time.

Speaker 6 (12:10):
Wrestler of the time for me was stone cold out
the stone cold baby.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
But I've got I've got.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
Stone Cold poster in my gym. You still want to
let him down?

Speaker 3 (12:21):
I want to wait to put that.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Uh yeah, man, stone Cold hit like a soona it was.
He was something else, just the cool. Also then the
you know southern so I didn't even have that, but
like that guy was the cool. We try to get
him on the show, but to no avail.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Did you play in a band in high school or
anything like that?

Speaker 4 (12:39):
You're playing like jazz band or anything when in school.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
It's it's funny you bring it up, like, uh, somebody
just reached out the other day and let me know
that my jazz band teacher died, mister mister Caldwell. And
he was he was really cool. But there was like
this weird thing in the jazz band because all the
other kids were like upset because I I played bass,
I played drums, I played guitar, and I was just

(13:03):
like I was excelling in the in the program, you know,
and they were all upset about it. And and Bruce
was like, look, you know, I'll just give you a
free period, like you don't have to do anything because
they're all getting upset, you know, and.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I don't understand.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
And he was like going in there and tread and
was stealing everybody's job, like.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
He was about to retire, and he was just like,
I just don't deal with it. He was he was
always really cool and I would just like skip class
tering that.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
But could he obviously he could see it too. Yeah,
and he at that.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Point, you're really at seven and like high school, you're
probably really good.

Speaker 6 (13:34):
Like fifteen and sixteen, I was. I was working as
a musician, you know. I had a band full of
like forty year old men, uh like wife and kids
at home, and I was working just like four or
five nights a week, where like around Greenville, the upstate area.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
You're flat randy picking up, yelling at some guy. Yeah, dude,
I like sick. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
My drummer was like forty five. His name was Tracy
little On.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
What is with these other names?

Speaker 3 (14:03):
They're perfect.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
He had a he had a pistol in his stick bag.
He was just one of the coolest motherfuckers ever. He
kept an eye out for me out there. Yeah. I
just had a band full.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Of just grown men, and how do you find them?

Speaker 6 (14:19):
Well through working.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
With my dad work with your dad.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, and how do you like? I know you're good,
but like how do you get did they just hear
you play and they're like, oh yeah, we'll sit behind
this kid right right.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
It's as simple as that.

Speaker 6 (14:33):
Well, and then there was kind of like the uh
you know.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Like who sits your hands behind that slide guitar? The
kids leading this one right? It was kind of were
you writing songs and singing and all that stuff?

Speaker 6 (14:46):
Yeah, I started writing around the time I was like
thirteen fourteen.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Were you playing originals doing these shows around around the area.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
For the most part there, I was doing a lot
of covers.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
You who are you covering?

Speaker 6 (14:58):
We were covering like Little Feet on Brothers band. We
would do like old like beach classics because like in
South Carolina, North Carolina, beach music is like a thing.
It's like and I was really it was crazy to me.
I found out it's like it's it's like old soul music, okay,

(15:19):
like the Temptations or like we had bands like uh,
the Sham or the Tams, and like, uh, there was
like these this really niche brand of like uh, we
call it beach music, be called shagging music. South Carolina music.
So we did that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Okay, give me a couple of other songs that would
be considered that because Temptations, that's that's motown.

Speaker 6 (15:41):
Thows so like motown. All the Motown stuff fits into
like the shag category.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Shag sag.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
There was a guy named Willie t was a big
shag artist.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Carolina beach and shag yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Beach music,
also known as Carolina beach music and to lesser extent,
beach pop, is regional genre of music in the United States,
developed from rock, R and B pop music in the
nineteen fifties and sixties.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Okay, so when you start playing these things, you guys,
you start making some money, start making good money doing this.
I'm making a little bread. Crowds are getting big.

Speaker 6 (16:14):
Yeah, crowds are getting big. You know. It was there
was kind of a shift where people were coming to
watch the ball game at the bar and then they'd
start listening to us. Sure, and we were catching a
lot of runoff from like the widespread panic fans.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Okay, gotcha, you know, Okay, that was kind.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
Of our bread and butter was like the forty five
year old like widespread panic deadhead type of individual.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
No kid, okay, now, huh with a fourteen fifteen year
old kid leading it?

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah, damn sick. And then when I guess the decision
to drop out of school, was that like money wise
or just a tension span wise? Like time wise?

Speaker 3 (16:50):
How bad were the grades?

Speaker 6 (16:51):
Man? They were terrible And you weren't going to.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Parties and stuff like that, or man, I.

Speaker 6 (16:56):
Went to a couple of parties and I just was
never really welcome. And the people at school they hated me,
but they didn't really know what I did. They thought
it was just a.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Dropout, you know, they thought I was understood.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Were they preppy kids? Were they?

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (17:10):
It was a pretty conservative area in the country. And
you know, long hair. I'd smell a pot when I'd
show up in the morning.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
You know, you're like wearing this like when you were
like fourteen, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
And saying like persons showing up like god, damn, what
about the glasses.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
You weren't wearing the red glasses back then, were you? I?

Speaker 6 (17:29):
Yeah, I mean I had a different kind but yeah, man,
that's awesome because the lights always bug my eyes. But
you know, they just they thought I had like no ambition,
But I just did they know, like I was really
working on something.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
I have the most ambitions.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
You never had the moment where you got to get
up and shred it in front of the talent show
or something like that.

Speaker 6 (17:48):
In fifth grade. I did that in fifth grade, and
I had a set of healings, and I heal.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
Let's go, I mean, talk about the coolest.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Kid in town.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Skynyrd backing them up. Still wasn't enough.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
What was this song do you play? You remember?

Speaker 6 (18:06):
That's a good question. I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Remember it wasn't Bop. I'm sure it wasn't which was
a good song by those guys.

Speaker 6 (18:13):
Those guys came and saw us play in Uh, it
wasn't an album in New York. It was somewhere upstate
New York. Okay, they were playing and they came over
and hung up with us after our show, which was funny.

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Speaker 6 (21:35):
But the reason I dropped out of high school was
because you guys are familiar with truancy.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
I'm sure yeah, And like I'm sure broke into your
delinquent ass.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
No way, you guys are dirt bags.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
You're in good company.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
I mean, my sister was really the one that was tru,
really sure. She every day my dad drop her off,
she'd go out the back door and go off do
whatever she was doing. And when we finally we went
to court about it, and Anderson School District made it
clear like any child in the home, it's also in
Anderson school districts has to sign this like pledge. It's

(22:10):
like it hangs over your entire you know, time through school.
So I had this thing hanging over me. And of course,
like three months later, my sister turned seventeen and dropped out.
And I was in eighth grade or ninth grade at
this time. So ninth and tenth grade everything was cool.
But in eleventh grade I'd show up late or like show.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
You're getting off the road or something like that.

Speaker 6 (22:31):
Yeah, I'd show up late, and they really started, you know,
busting my tops about it. And they they were gonna
send me to like a reformatory school down a Columbia.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Did they know what you were doing?

Speaker 6 (22:40):
No, And they wanted to like shave my head.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
And what Yeah, it sounds like it was in the
fifteenth fifteen years.

Speaker 6 (22:48):
And they were like telling me I was gonna end
up in prison and all this shit, and they were
just really they were very cruel to me.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
That's brutal, man. I'm sorry to hear that.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah, it sucks.

Speaker 6 (22:57):
The only saving grace was like in the afternoons, I
went to Uh it's like a vocational school, but they
had like dancing and uh they had a jazz department there,
and I studied jazz theory, which was different from high
school jazz band. It was like a collegiate level like
theory program.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Yeah, like the deep dive into it.

Speaker 6 (23:15):
And I would have stayed in high school to stay
there another year, but I just I couldn't put up
with my my high school anymore. So I just decided
to drop out. I got my.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Ged at that same right then, Yeah, right away, I
just went into smart move. Now, okay, let's say you're
dropped out, what uh what's the cash shit to Are
you like you're like piecing together money from gigs? Is that?
Are you like sitting kind of pretty? Do you gotta?

Speaker 5 (23:41):
Are you saving? What's the car?

Speaker 6 (23:43):
Right?

Speaker 3 (23:44):
So?

Speaker 6 (23:44):
I had a Chrysler Town and Country two thousand and one.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Man, that was a great year for the town and country.
We're a big minivan team over here. There's nothing better.
They got more space than anything low profile. They got
a little giddy up in them.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
That I mean. I had the best deal for anybody
that was working with me because I carried the bass rig,
I carried the PA, I carried the lights hold in
my minivan. I was fourteen and fifteen, so I can
only drive with a license driver in the tower. So
I would hire the band on the basis of, like,
you do whatever you want.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Little John's riding Shotgun.

Speaker 6 (24:20):
Yeah, little John's writing Shotgun. We're going down to Augusta, Georgia.
We're gonna play this kid.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Come on, you know, just get in the van. I
got everything else there everything Get.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Who was booking the gigs?

Speaker 6 (24:30):
I was booking them?

Speaker 3 (24:30):
You were booking them?

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (24:31):
I was calling these clubs. I was using a fake name,
sending emails pretending like I was representing Gus.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Wow, I loved it. Did they know you were fourteen
and fifteen when when you were doing that?

Speaker 6 (24:42):
No?

Speaker 3 (24:43):
What would they say when you would show up?

Speaker 6 (24:45):
It was it was mixed. It was mixed.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Uh until you started playing, so.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
Yeah, but I mean it was never really too much
an issue because I'd run into issues because like when
I started trying to drink, you know, but I mean
that wasn't until later till I was like eight seventeen eighteen,
and even then I would keep it under wrapped. But
you know, I have a baby face now. So when
I'm fourteen, like it was really like we got this

(25:11):
kid that plays the guitar well, and the bandmates would
be my chaperones, you know. So I'd kind of set
it up like that and they'd let me come in
and it was kind of a it was kind of
a gimmick, all fucked up, yeah, and they were looking
after me, and it was the gimmick was like you
come see this kid play, yeah, and it's like nobody's
gonna give me alcohol.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
You know, if you saw me at fourteen, you know
the chops, did you back?

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Now?

Speaker 6 (25:35):
I couldn't grow anything.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Coming out in the wheelies.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, Holy shit, that's this is nuts.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
I mean, what what a life man?

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
It's so it's like such a unique story that we've
never had.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
And then how long does this go on?

Speaker 4 (25:58):
I have one? Did you work have you ever worked
a straight job, like what was like your for you know,
do you work in like the burger king or something.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
So I worked at the Mellow Mushroom. That's that you
guys don't have melo mushroom rights. Melow mushroom, Mellow mellow mushroom,
mellow mushroom. And it's a pizza joint.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
I thought, I've seen the pizza joint Mellow Mushroom. It's
really good.

Speaker 6 (26:20):
I don't think we have them, uh north of like Virginia,
I want to say. So it's kind of a regional
pizza joint, but it's like a hippie themed pizza joint.
So I fit in really great there, right. I started
off as a dishwasher, worked my way up to the
line chef.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Damn, there you go.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
It's a pretty big jump.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
You know. I was doing that and then I got fired,
and then I came back and I was a host. Okay,
I would see people bring them drinks.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
How old are you doing this?

Speaker 4 (26:49):
I was like sixteen, So.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
You're this is why you're doing the shows and stuff. Yeah,
so you still needed a little extra income.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yeah, like that.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
That summer I was doing home or summer school and
I was doing the pizza joint and I was playing
guitar in the evenings hustler.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
I was hustling, that's sick, and what like, I mean,
we we've done we you know, we kind of came
up the same way through the stand up comedy world
of these horrible gigs, just getting in a car, trying
to get there, right to go, pick up a horrible check,
lose money forties. Yeah, yeah, we did. He did a
little later.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
What's a gig like that?

Speaker 4 (27:24):
You're fifteen, you got the van, you got the team,
you get to the show in Atlanta or whatever. What's
that pay like fifteen hundred, one thousand dollars for everybody?
Less hundred bucks.

Speaker 6 (27:35):
I remember like we would show up and the deal
would be like seventy five a man, and then we'd
show up, so it's three hundred dollars for a four
piece man. And we showed up. Our keyboard player couldn't
make it one night, and you know, the dude gave
us seventy five bucks each, and I was like, no, no, no,
the deal was three hundred and he's like, no, it's
seventy five man.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
Man. Sure.

Speaker 6 (27:56):
I was like, what the hell? So we would we
would work the hard at the tip you know, I
got really good at like working that tip jar. That
was kind of my stick for a while.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Did you have any good what was like their best
Do you have like a good line?

Speaker 6 (28:07):
Well, would try to do the tip jar games, you know,
if you can try to make it into this bucket
and like get them really going, And then some drunk
guy would come up like it's got to be a twenty,
nothing lower than a twenty. If you can make it
in the bucket, then you get the whole bag, you know,
that whole thing. And then I would move the bucket
and it would be funny and then everybody laughed. But
like one guy tried to fight me about it. When

(28:28):
you were a kid, Yeah, I get this twenty.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
Back twenty twenty dude, that's like here you go.

Speaker 6 (28:33):
Don't worry about it. It's supposed to be a joke because.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
We want you to tip the we'd time. We're not
here to fight each other the end of the day.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
You should tip the band anyway. But I understand, I'm sorry,
but I mean they were multiple like just close calls
like that, just gigs where they didn't want to pay us,
and my grandfather's advice to me was, well, if they
do that, mane, you just gotta start taking their ship.
And I was like, what do you mean.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Okay, so like salt and pepper shakers system or whatever.

Speaker 6 (29:02):
He said, take anything that ain't bolted down. And when
they asked you, why you're doing it? So we gotta
get paid. I'm gonna sell this shit.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
So that was kind of I did that one night
and you got a country.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
The deal ran.

Speaker 6 (29:18):
It was a total bluff because I can't fit all
this in the town. Country.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
I wouldn't have to leave the bases here.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
You got two waitresses in there.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
We've been playing all night, and like the agreement was
for us to play until twelve, and they said no,
you played till one. I was like, there's nobody here
and the agreement our email says twelve. So we're getting
out of here. And I said, well, we're not paying you,
and I said, well, we're gonna have to take all
your ship. So we started loading this stuff out and
out of nowhere, these big burly guys showed up and

(29:48):
it was at the back entrance of the club is
where you load in and load out, and on the
other side of the fence was like a police dispatch unit.
So everybody just standing outside of the dispatch unit smoking cigarettes.
So I out of nowhere, like six cops pull up.
There was like this brawl happening in the street. My
drummer at the time he he uh, some guy jumped

(30:08):
on his back and broke his ankle.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
No, it was the whole thing. How old are you
when this is going on?

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Sixteen?

Speaker 6 (30:16):
I caused the bar a bar brawl, but they paid
us good.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
I mean, got your money. What's uh? What would you
what would the most like you'd make your well, what
would be a good night from the bucket the tip bucket?

Speaker 6 (30:28):
Good night from the tip bucket would be like two
hundred bucks. I mean yeah, two or three hundred bucks.
And when we play this bar in Ashville, North Carolina,
the deal with every band was like you get a
case of PBR. And I knew that, and I tell him,
you know, hey, I understand the circumstances, but I still
want that case of PBR. So they give it to

(30:49):
me on the back steps like.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
A cat, a straight cat.

Speaker 6 (30:52):
I would leave and then come back and case up
here on the bottom step. For me, it's like.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
You're dropping a briefcase full of fucking secret documents.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
I think it has to switch it out with chocolate
milk or something like that.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
I want my code red now.

Speaker 6 (31:05):
Well I definitely started drinking at that point.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
So nice PBRs.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
Yeah, it's tough. I mean, it's nuts.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
We I mean it's tough for us not to drink.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
You know, we're in you know, similar thing at night,
you're in clubs and everything, and it's just like, it's tough.
It's tough as an adult not to drink, let alone
like a kid with no experiences. You're gonna get into it.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
When you were a kid and you were home and
say your dad had it off, thank would you guys
sit down and have dinner together?

Speaker 3 (31:33):
And would your grandparents usually be involved in that?

Speaker 6 (31:35):
Usually at my grandparents house, my grandmother would cook, grandfather
head of the table, my dad, me and my sister
and my grandma.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
So for the most part, like groceries and stuff like that,
your grandmother was doing that.

Speaker 6 (31:47):
Yeah, I'd say until like I was eleven or so.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
What would normally be in the fridge as a kid.
Your dad is a musician. Single dad is a musician.
What are we talking about?

Speaker 6 (31:58):
So I mean, my grandmother was really good at like
making a grocery list. Last okay, you know, get the
ground beef and she would make spaghetti. But it was
it was more like a skyline chili kind of thing.
So she would make the chili for that, and then
the next day it would be hot dogs, same chili.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
I don't think that, you know, I'm all about it.

Speaker 6 (32:19):
And the next day like leftover chopped up hot dogs
with just buttered noodles.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
That kind of thing, all right, Okay, And what would
like a family vacation look like growing up? Would you
do anything or just travel for work? Or what was the.

Speaker 6 (32:34):
Once a year we would make the pilgrimage down to Charleston,
South Carolina. Okay, occasionally change it up with Myrtle Beach.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Beach Charleston.

Speaker 6 (32:45):
Yeah, great, we'd go down. We'd get one motel room,
grandparents in one bed, the only time they would share
a bed otherwise bedrooms. Ok So it's such an old
school thing.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, different rooms. Couldn't get my head around that sleep
sleep beer. How to fund everybody get.

Speaker 6 (33:04):
Here right exactly?

Speaker 4 (33:06):
I couldn't.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
I couldn't figure it out either, But they were the
same way. Once a year would go down to Charleston
for a weekend, one motel room, we'd go to one nice.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Dinner, standard American, standard, American vacation.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
So financially, growing up, things weren't great.

Speaker 6 (33:23):
I mean they were tight, but we didn't want for
a lot.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
You know, we did okay at the hot dogs and noodles.

Speaker 6 (33:32):
But I look back and I think about, like, I
don't think there were that many roaming blackouts. I think
the bills just didn't get paid month. We would have out,
we'd have our campouts, and my dad would be like,
it's just.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Crazy, goddamnit, run pulling the plug on the Eastern Seaboard.
I didn't think there was that many rolling blackouts, scream.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Screaming about Obama.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
They're on a different grid, rolling blackouts the whole neighborhoods.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
This is a target, This is targeted bullshit.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
What about Christmas? What were holidays?

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Like?

Speaker 6 (34:09):
Oh man, they were so good. Would you do a tree?

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Yeah, we do a tree, fake or real.

Speaker 6 (34:15):
Grandma had a fake.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Tree, colored lights, white lights.

Speaker 6 (34:18):
White lights at Grandma's house, colored lights at my house.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Would your dad get a fake treat? So a fake
tree too?

Speaker 6 (34:23):
My dad would do a real tree. Up until the
time I was eleven, and that's when we moved down
to my stepmom's house. And she was very fake tree
white lights, no bullshit.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
So your dad got remarried.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
Dad got very cool.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Okay, did she have any kids.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
She did, it's actually one of their birthday today. And
they were a lot older than me. Okay, I was
eleven and her youngest son was seventeen. Wow, the oldest
was twenty one.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
So not super close. It wasn't It wasn't.

Speaker 6 (34:50):
A great situation, and they and they both were pretty
troubled youths, and uh, she had a real hard time
with them. It kind of made it difficult for her to,
you know, focus on me and my sister, and we
really kind of needed that at the time. So it
was kind of a rough situation for a while. But
now we're very close.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Friend.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
They've been married now twenty years.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Man, what it's awesome.

Speaker 5 (35:16):
What a what a story, and what a guy to
tell the story.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
He is fucking good. I forget We're doing a show
like what else, and I'm picturing it. I got the house,
I got his grandparents out, I got the two trees
going that skyline, Jilly, I can't get off my brain.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
What what toys did you play with when you were
a kid?

Speaker 6 (35:35):
I know, well, yeah, really when it wasn't a less Paul,
it was wrestlers, okay, g I Joe's g I Joe's
all right, yeah, but I would have my g I
Joe's set up and they had like this backing them up,
the little guitar figurings. Yeah, I would set him up
to play like in a band.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Got back there.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
I have so many, so many questions.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Cobra Commander on the just giving it.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Yeah, what was the first you know, when did you
start making like pretty good cash? And was there a
kind of a dumb purchase where you're like, I didn't
need that ton the first big check you know?

Speaker 6 (36:17):
Oh wow? I mean I think the first big check
is when I I was always pretty rational with my spinning.
I think I got that from my grandpa.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
And will you sit like when when you were like fourteen,
fifteen and sixteen doing these gigs, would you have to
go home and give them money to your dad or
like would you keep it all to yourself?

Speaker 6 (36:36):
I was? I remember I would have helped my mother
out a little bit. Got she was back in my
life at that point, and.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
I'd go down to fourteen fifteen.

Speaker 6 (36:43):
Yeah, I'd go down and try to help out a
little bit, damn. And then I'd come back and like
the lights would be out and she'd have like a
cart and of cigarettes and like.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Which, I've had to make that decision before myself, and
you told me later.

Speaker 6 (36:55):
She was like, yeah, you know, what you were bringing
in wasn't really gonna make a difference. Fair enough, fair enough?

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Hey, what was what was their brand of smokes?

Speaker 6 (37:05):
She was Marble lights, Nice, Marble lights. I mean my
mom smoking Marble lights in the car with the windows
of that.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
It's just that's that my step mommy. We were in
a purple Dodge and tripping, yeah, cooking.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Because we were in an old jeep wagonyar. I remember
it was freezing outside, the windows were up, the heat
was on.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
I'm like this. I was like six, this can't be good.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
It can't be good.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
It can't be good. It smells great though.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
You got a little bit of aquinet, you know, you
got the radio on fond memories, but probably not good
for the esophagus.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
All right, okay, what was on the first big purchase? I?

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yes, uh, like what did that look like, did you
did you.

Speaker 6 (37:45):
Get to you got discovered online? Right, sat Konda? Yeah, right,
we were. We were really just kind of out there
beating the streets. Man. We were playing two nights a year.
We'd go anywhere that somebody would have us.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Still with the same same guys kind of Yeah.

Speaker 6 (37:59):
Me and my drummer. Yeah, I met him when I
was seventeen and we've been together ever since.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
How old is he?

Speaker 6 (38:05):
I think he was nineteen or twenty.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Okay, so a little bit younger. So you're not still
with the forties and fifty year old guys.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
No, they all, you know, they didn't want to leave.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Yeah, they can't.

Speaker 6 (38:16):
Datcha and they couldn't go on the road for when
I was able to pay, and we were sharing a
motel room, which I was accustomed to.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
And that all falls on you. What you're able to pay.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
Yeah, huh. You know, you go out and whatever the
club's willing to pay you. So we would drive like
straight to Paragold, Arkansas and play for like five hundred
bucks and some pork steaks.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
You and the drummer.

Speaker 6 (38:36):
Yeah, me and the drummer, bass player and keyboard player.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Okay, five hundred bucks plus maybe passing the bucket around. Yeah,
pass the buckers, say you're six hundred bucks. Yeah, four
guys plus the plus the steaks.

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this the nexus of the Marcus King Band? Kind of
like this is this is a squad?

Speaker 6 (40:04):
Yeah. And we had this guy, this guy Robbie, who
was tight with like a lot of reggae bands, uh huh.
And he knew this guy who was the brother of
a bass player from this reggae band called the Movement.
And Larry his mother had this crazy payout from this
insurance claim because she took.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Involved in every dirt bag, every dirt bag origin story.
Someone got hit by a bus, someone they left a
sponge in or something.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Air conditioner.

Speaker 6 (40:35):
Yeah, I mean, golly, she took a vaccine or something
and she ended up like paralyzed or something. God bless her.
But I mean I never knew her. But they had
this crazy, big mansion outside of San Diego, and uh,
they had all of g love and special sauces road
gear and they were recording in there. So this fellow
that we knew in in Greenville named Bill Hahn, who's

(40:57):
just the best, just bud light all day on a
guy and he's so fucking hilarious. Shout out Bill. He
was like, I'll fly you guys out there.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
May you guys make a record?

Speaker 6 (41:06):
It'd be great. I was like, okay, So we flew. Yeah,
So we flew out to San Diego. We made a record,
and the engineer on that record was this girl and
like her and I ended up just really kind of
following for each other. I was eighteen, she was twenty eight.
We started dating. We dated for like four years, so
I'd go out there and see her as much as

(41:26):
I could. And her sister lived in La so she
took me up to La and we went out to
Tarzana one day to Norman's Red Guitars, and she was like,
this is how LA works. She gotta just play and
they'll discover you. And I was like, I don't know.
So I played and they they liked what I was doing,
and they said, can we film you for our YouTube channel.

(41:47):
I'd never heard of such a thing, you know, So
they did.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
And then that a YouTube channel.

Speaker 6 (41:51):
Yeah, really well, I mean I'd never heard of like
a guitar store filming somebody.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, gotcha.

Speaker 6 (41:56):
I was like, sure, why not? So I did that
and they it went like viral, you know. I'd say,
what was like the first thing I did that was viral?
And then that just kind of made the rounds. That
was kind of the first thing that really picked up
a steam.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Damn man, sick the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
It's so funny because like every comedian wanted to be
a rock star at some point in our lives and like,
I can't do that, but I can, you know, I
can call this guy dumb or whatever.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
And the girl you fell for it was ten years
older and she was the engineer.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
Yeah, man, that's odd.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
She was red awesome.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
And then I had an unfold from there.

Speaker 5 (42:32):
Oh, sorry, what was the purchase? Did you ever get
to the purchase?

Speaker 4 (42:35):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (42:35):
The purchase was probably my Cadillac. It was like, what
was the check for? I think it might have been
from my label or something like an advanced check.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
How he get you that advance?

Speaker 4 (42:47):
That's I don't know much about the record, but that
advance will come back to me.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
You said you were always pretty good with the money.
The first thing you do is you'll get it caddy.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
It's a nineteen eighty elder on.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Horns on it in the front.

Speaker 6 (43:02):
Oh yeah, really, yeah, my god?

Speaker 4 (43:06):
What color was it?

Speaker 6 (43:07):
It was black?

Speaker 4 (43:08):
Black and red? That is that if if there's if
anybody's meant to drive that car?

Speaker 3 (43:13):
It is? And where's that? Where was it? Where would
that be parked? Where? Where were you based out of?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Man?

Speaker 6 (43:18):
I was in Nashville.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Okay, So you moved to Nashville at this point, moved
in the drummer goes with you.

Speaker 6 (43:23):
Drummer stayed in Greenville, Greenville, which I'm still trying to
get him to move to Nashville.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
But he's with you.

Speaker 6 (43:29):
Yeah, he's still with me.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
He's based out of there.

Speaker 6 (43:32):
He just commutes. He just likes living in Greenville. Uh,
his wife and her family are there and they just
had a little baby. So he's he's got deep roots
in Greenville, so he just commutes. He doesn't mind doing it.
I mean, it'd be easier than everybody if he was
in Nashville. But you know maybe someday, yeah, good, But
the Caddy would be parked outside. I was renting a

(43:53):
house for fifteen hundred bucks a month, me and my
girlfriend at the time, and you know, that was that
was the biggest thing. Was like my grandfather kind of
taught me about these pneumatic devices, you know, to make
people really remember, you make make them stick, you know,
like big cowboy hat, you know, big belt buckle, shiny boots,

(44:14):
whatever it was.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
And the Cadillac was part of that. The state.

Speaker 6 (44:18):
It was like if I'm somewhere, if I'm recording at
a studio, if I'm working on somebody's record, I'm gonna
know I'm in there because this car is parked out front.
You know, I was the only guy.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
Driving around in the South.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
How old are you.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
At this time?

Speaker 6 (44:30):
I was probably like twenty one, twenty.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
Two, so sick was this like was it like completely
fully restored or was it beat out? Like, what was
the condition of did you buy it like fully redone
or in condition?

Speaker 6 (44:44):
It was in Middletown, Pennsylvania, no shit, And I found
it online. It was three thousand dollars, all right, and
it had like, I think thirty thousand miles on it.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
What was the advance?

Speaker 6 (44:56):
Can we ask you that the advance?

Speaker 4 (44:58):
I can't.

Speaker 6 (44:58):
I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
It wasn't anything ten grand No, I think it might
have been more than that, all right.

Speaker 6 (45:03):
But again, that's how to get you.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
That's how to get you now. Damn uh how kip
he got me?

Speaker 4 (45:12):
You're still paying it all dance.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
I got a show in Greenville tonight, matter of fact.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
Pays pork steaks and I get ten percent.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Yeah, what's the stake? I would ride over that. What's
the porks?

Speaker 6 (45:24):
What's a pork steak?

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (45:25):
It was just this big cut of meat.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Dude, I'm with you.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
You had my interest, now you have my attention.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
He's got a great laugh. It's great, right ah, jeesus.

Speaker 6 (45:39):
Yeah, we had a good time this pork steaks. They
sent us home with some and they made this huge
staying in our van that just never went away.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
Massive. So you're at that point you're still in the
town and country.

Speaker 6 (45:52):
This was our We had a forty Conlan. We got
a great deal on twenty fourteen.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
The Rows in it, right, But it's like the church
Van exactly.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Do we haven't manager at this point someone handling all
this stuff.

Speaker 6 (46:02):
I think at this point we did have a manager.
My first manager was a lady named Steph and it
was Warren Haynes's wife. So Warren Haynes from the Olmen
brother's band Government Mule and h Kid. Yeah, he kind
of took a took a chance on us and was
producing a record for us. And you know, Steph and

(46:24):
myself we ended up having a falling out. It just
wasn't really working and uh, you know, that relationship really
never got mended back together. But you know, I still
love them very much.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
But I mean, how cool is this.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
It's like we're watching the bio pic right in front
of it.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
It's insane.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
I'm so in it, all right, So you go through
that with the manager. When when do you get the
check where you're like, oh shit.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
Why are you kind of like not set? But you're
like all right, I'm I'm you got so wiggle.

Speaker 6 (47:00):
Room, right, I'd say like pre pandemic, like twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
Twenty twenty, because your album it was like your what
your first album was when twenty eighteen?

Speaker 6 (47:12):
Yeah, well first album was twenty fourteen.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Twenty fourteen, and the Grammy was twenty twenty.

Speaker 6 (47:18):
Yeah. Right, so around then that's when, really, yeah, I
had a little juice and had enough saved up. I
was able to buy a house. Great, you know, bought
a house in Ville, have down payment. I was in
Mount Juliet, Okay, so right outside of Nashville, and you know,
and then the ship hit, the fan hit the pandemic,
but we were still able to, you know, keep everybody

(47:40):
on for like nine months. You know, we got a
little bit of that government cheese. We were just scraping
by man.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
For sure enough times we're doing the same thing, dude,
huh okay.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Now you're killing it.

Speaker 6 (47:55):
Things are good.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Any kind of cheese I want now, I mean, you know.

Speaker 6 (48:02):
Hell like even like I said, that's how they get you,
you know, And I've I've been through a number of.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
Those, a number of those situations.

Speaker 6 (48:12):
Just had to claw my way out of a huh.
You know, it's only one way through it is to
do it.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
How many you know? Okay, typically you know you're you're
such a man of cool. This is how pretty is
how dorky I am? You're a man of cool. He's
got me slipping out of my seat over there, about
to take a run at the guy I'm trying. This
is how this is how much of a dork I am.
I'm trying to read the label on that shirt so
I can buy it when he leaves, and I can't

(48:42):
make it out him like that doesn't look like Levi's
And I'm like, I'm literally going, can I sell that
to my wife? Or is that too Western?

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Car?

Speaker 4 (48:50):
I'm a car heart man. Everybody, I'm a Dicky's in
car hert man. Everybody knows that you.

Speaker 6 (48:54):
Gotta you gotta get the vintage car hard though it's worn.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
In right damn uh Okay. How many guitars do you own?

Speaker 6 (49:02):
Way too many? Man, It's got to be like seventy plus.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Seven, kid, you play them all?

Speaker 6 (49:09):
I do?

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (49:10):
I mean, like my studio, I've got a lot of
guitars there. I've got a lot that were gifts, guitars
that you know, it's it, they're kind of you know,
I'm really o CD so I've got them like in
different places, Like the ones really special to me are
you know, kept very close, and the other ones a
lot of them are like in storage or you know,

(49:31):
I have like flight eight guitars, guitars that I'll check
under the playing and guitars that I'll leave overseas, you know,
leave overseas.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
So like when you're going, you don't have to travel
with them.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Where do you leave that ass?

Speaker 4 (49:46):
Yeah, that's what That's what John Wick does. He goes
and checks in at the Citadel or whatever that The
Citadel is the one.

Speaker 6 (50:01):
The Citadel was a big part of our origin really
because Bill Hahn, who I told you about bud Light
all day, the man Bill went to the Citadel with
a writer, Jamison Clark, and Jameson Clark was in Nashville
and he gave our demo to our agent, Brandon Rowntree,
who was still my agent today. So like, had that

(50:23):
not happened, you know, because you got to really get
an end. Sure, this was a William Morris agency and
we went shadowed to Williams and my great grandfather's name
was William Morris King or my grandfather's name.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Oh shit, So we went up.

Speaker 6 (50:37):
There and got like ripped, like we got shit hammered,
and then went into that meeting like the next morning,
this one, I'm like eighteen rock stars and they didn't
give us a meeting upstairs, but he met with us
in the lobby and we.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
Were just not like.

Speaker 6 (50:58):
First gig Breidon. Every book for us was at Sea World.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
No way was.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
It like you guys were just playing and people were
walking by type thing like you were just like this
just the band.

Speaker 6 (51:11):
In between Shamou like weird play. It was. It was
the worst.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
How was a check on?

Speaker 6 (51:17):
That check? Wasn't bad? It was worth driving to Orlando
for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Man, So you got your own studio? Now? Is this
that the house?

Speaker 6 (51:26):
No, it's it's actually it's my old place and it's.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
In the old house that you bought with you put
the down payment on. Yeah, turn that into a studio.
Now you got the new place.

Speaker 6 (51:35):
Now I got a new place me and my wife.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Good spot.

Speaker 6 (51:38):
It's a good spot we're in. We're in the good
part of town, now kidding.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
You got a pool?

Speaker 6 (51:42):
No, the old place has a pool though, like this
an indoor.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Pool, an indoor pool.

Speaker 6 (51:47):
Yeah, it's like this, what was.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
This down payment? You mean it sounds like you were
scraping like fifty together.

Speaker 6 (51:54):
I got a I got a great deal on the place, Kim.
And this was in twenty twenty, and this is before
the Handkerchief is.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
The coolest dude I've ever met.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
D he talking about it's no way you're twenty got
three hundred, dude.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
I literally remember walking into that when we were trying
to go to that pop up. So I walked in
and he was saying something super cool on the on
the mic, like between songs, and some guy leaned over
next to me went, oh, what's up. I love ru Gorbe.
I'm like, this is the coolest night of my life.
And then the bouncers like you gotta go. It's like
a man, I'll see late.

Speaker 6 (52:28):
Oh man, I'm so close.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
I'm like, dB, man, this is the club. Like I'm
seeing the coolest fucking guy. I'm getting recognized. And then
the guy's like, yeah, your buddies aren't allowed in.

Speaker 5 (52:36):
I was like, the big one can't, big one, the
big guy can't come in.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
He ain't fit.

Speaker 6 (52:41):
I hate it so much that that happened.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
None And it wasn't you, it was it was Gillis
Gilliss was like, yeah, I get come on by. He
had two passes and he invited like thirty five people.
We'll get you next time for sure, for sure. That's funny,
sick Okay, huh So.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
You got the studio.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
What's happen? What's like a day? Right? You're not just
say you're like in between?

Speaker 6 (53:03):
Are you?

Speaker 4 (53:03):
So you're like heavy tour and you mentioned.

Speaker 6 (53:05):
Yeah, we tour a lot.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
What's like, I guess like that's just the musicians. You're
just are you? You guys are like forever on the road? Right? Yeah?
Is there a break coming up in twenty twenty six?
You're looking at or I.

Speaker 6 (53:15):
Mean, you know, like select this last year I had
like a had a manager, you know, screw me over,
pretty bad business manager. It was just kind of this
perfect storm business manager not saying no enough, manager being inept, everything,
just kind of creating this perfect storm of fuck that

(53:38):
just like really slammed at my front door. So the
way that I was raised is like we got to
get through this.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
You know.

Speaker 6 (53:46):
So I was like, say yes to everything I'm doing,
every private gig. I'm gonna be on the road, you know,
And me and my wife both agreed like we don't
have kids or anything yet, so I've just been hustling
my ass off, just trying to work through it, yeah,
and also trying to be creative and put out a
record and trying to have some catharsis so like in

(54:08):
that time, like you know, I sold a guitar and
I bought a Karmen Guia. So when I'm home, that's
kind of what I do. Is it around my Karma Ghia.
It's a car. Volkswagen made it, but it.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Was it just sold a guitar. It was that was
worth as much as a car.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
Yeah, but like you'll see the car.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
It's like, how do you spell Carmen ge u k
A r R Carmen Gia. I thought it was kar mcgia. Okay,
a little old school guy.

Speaker 6 (54:41):
So they call it. They call it the poor man's Porsche.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
So you sold a guitar and bought that. Was that
like a one for one.

Speaker 6 (54:49):
Yeah, pretty pretty much.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
It was like an expensive guitar.

Speaker 6 (54:54):
Balls and I got a I got a good deal,
you know. It's it's just kind of something I did
off the radar, off the books, because I needed a toy, like.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
Do something to just some place to put your.

Speaker 6 (55:04):
Yeah focus because I needed something to tinker with because
I've just been driving myself crazy. And like my Cadillac's
been with my uncle down in South Carolina. He's been
doing a number on it.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Driving it around.

Speaker 6 (55:16):
No no fixing, he's just fixing her.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
Up, driving around.

Speaker 5 (55:22):
This is Marcus King's car.

Speaker 6 (55:24):
He's got he's got, Yeah, he's been fixing it up.
But like you know, he's he's busy, and I'm I'm like,
I'm touring, so like, don't worry about it, you know,
no rush.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
But what's uh okay, So you're saying this isn't this
is in Nashville, car you wake up? What's like an
off day in Nashville looking like for you?

Speaker 6 (55:50):
So me and my wife just like to sit on
the porch. I gotta have a cigarette in the morning.
What kind of heaters you American spirits?

Speaker 4 (55:59):
I pegged that for him. American color yellow, which are
like light blue.

Speaker 6 (56:04):
Okay, but you know, anytime I tell somebody blue American spirits,
they always bring back the wrong ones. But whatever color
blue you would say, this is.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
They're the only one American spirits that I like, the
yellow ones, that something about them.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
I don't know. I don't like them either.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
I'm off the heater forever.

Speaker 6 (56:20):
Yeah, you guys both quit smoking, right, I'm back on.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
I'm trying to lose weight.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
I'm nine months off the one for one. Maybe a
misstep out in a two weeks ago. Don't tell my wife, okay,
all right, so you wake up, heat her on the porch,
cup of coffee, heat her in a cup of coffee.
Taking the day, you're setting an alarm or you just
getting up when you get.

Speaker 6 (56:46):
Up when I'm home, honestly, man, like me and my
wife were like, we're like old folks.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Man.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
We go to bed like eight o'clock, kind of nice.

Speaker 6 (56:55):
Sometimes we get up like six or seven. My wife's
got pigeons. She goes out and feeds them.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Kiddy, that's not anything monogram anything monogrammed, like is your
is your?

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Is your? Like your bedspread? Monogram like m k on it.

Speaker 6 (57:11):
I recently bought some monogram pajamas and that was me
doing something nice for myself.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
That's good, treat yourself.

Speaker 6 (57:19):
But when I got him back, like you know, they
monogrammed him, but like they stitched it and it like
they stitched the pocket shut.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Hey put the heaters in there.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
Yeah, yeah, so okay, and uh, what's on you know
what's on the rider?

Speaker 6 (57:36):
On the rider in my addressing. Yeah, so it depends
on whether my wife's coming or not. When when my
wife is there, she likes a still rose. She likes
uh black cherry white claus talk.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
About yet still rose and give me some black cherry white. Yeah,
in case I want to fight tonight, something.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Something French for forty two and up the four locos?

Speaker 5 (58:01):
What the old stuff I wanted with the energy you
still in it?

Speaker 3 (58:05):
A switch blade comb.

Speaker 6 (58:06):
Yeah, new old stock, four locals.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
I like that.

Speaker 6 (58:10):
So I still me. I do the I do the
inn a Heinekens.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
You're sober, right, yeah, I'm sober. Good for you, man.

Speaker 6 (58:16):
I smoked smoking my pot though, keeps me saying.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
That was Greenville and I smoked my pot smoking pot.
As you know, he's simple man, as you do. Uh huh.
How long you've been off the sauce.

Speaker 6 (58:30):
This time going like since February and before that it
was like a year. Good for you, man, I mean
it's it's been kind of stopping go but here like
this the last time, I just I don't have any
desire to do it. Again.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
You know, it's good to hear that's uh, that's someone
who also struggles with it.

Speaker 6 (58:46):
I just wasn't good at it.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
I'm horrible at it.

Speaker 6 (58:49):
I just I was really into like benders, you know,
and I would go off for a week at a time.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
Yeah, what was the what was your poison? Yea, what
was the shot? And the beer type guy.

Speaker 6 (59:00):
Shouting a beer. That's a good time. But on the
road I would make we call him mk Ultras and
it was, uh, you know, because you forget this guy.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
This guy plays for deeps because you forget it, you know.

Speaker 6 (59:11):
I picked up one. So it was a Toba Chico
gray Goose vodka and grapefruit juice. So it's like a
Greyhound but with some fizzy and they go down easy. Yeah,
two solo cups and just mixing yourself. I would just
pound those, and I mean I could drink a beer

(59:32):
and like a second flat, you know. So I would
just pound beers and drink those. It was pretty great.
But I got into I got into.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
The other stuff.

Speaker 6 (59:40):
You know. When I was like eighteen, I remember being
at a festival called to Get Down in Pumpkin Town, Okay,
playing and you know I had a set to do,
and I was just too fucked up to do it.
So that's when you know, the booger Sugar came into play.
Deustraightened me out, played a great set, I think, and
and now I kind of had to dance with that

(01:00:02):
for like seven or eight years, you know, and uh
just just kept pretty. I thought that I could do
cocaine in a classy way, you know, you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
And me, both brothers. That's it.

Speaker 6 (01:00:15):
I've seen it done. I've seen like the classy parties,
like people were drinking wine and they'd have like one
little tray and they would just go around. It's like,
this is nice.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
I remember Stevie Nick saying that she used to she
used to have a gram of cocaine in her in
her boot at all times and just would do little whatevers.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
I wish you could just do that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
You guys know that, all right?

Speaker 6 (01:00:37):
Do you all know people, because like I have bandmate
center like this that can do sober cocaine, like without
even having to drink first.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
I've never met anybody I can do that.

Speaker 6 (01:00:47):
That's insane, But I can do that, you know, like
I know people that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
But I know I know I know people that could
do it and then put it away for for like
I'm gonna save the rest of this for tomorrow. Can
you do that? Now? That's insane.

Speaker 5 (01:01:01):
Most people that have to stop doing it can't do like.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
You know, I don't do that anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:01:05):
I've done that before, but because I had a meeting
the next morning and I had to carry the buzz
the next morning if I was going to sleep at all,
and I have a little headstash, wake up, take one
down and then give.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
Me to the meeting. Yeah, all right, all right, all right, man,
we just took.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
A front front porch, cup of coffee and smoke.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
Okay, so the rider so your wife will have some
uh some rose and the black cherry white clalls for you.
What's what's it looking like? You got your any stats?
You like? Uh?

Speaker 6 (01:01:44):
What do we? What have we been doing lately? We like, uh?

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
What's your sweet tooth?

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
Me?

Speaker 6 (01:01:50):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
We love.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Peanut and m and ms. There's always anything fruity. Your
nerds clusters? Guy, have you got in them?

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Never gotten into away?

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
You got a problem with the boogers? You're a problem
with them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
They're so good.

Speaker 6 (01:02:07):
I'm like a rock hash uesed guy. Rock hashes all right,
dark chocolate.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Okay, se sace like old sea sauce on cho to sea.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
Saw okay, all right, stuff's good, okay. And then so
like now that you're you know, you're not partying, you
do the you do the gig. You're back. You know
you're tour bus at night to the next town.

Speaker 6 (01:02:29):
Right, Yeah, cigarettes are on the rider. Actually, I just
get a pack.

Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
So you know there's a pack there. You got a
pack in the whole kidding. That's pretty smart. Not nothing
too extravage.

Speaker 6 (01:02:40):
Nothing too crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
You like a nice dinner. You like going out and
having a nice dinner.

Speaker 6 (01:02:44):
Love a good steak dinner.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Good steak dinner, baked potato man.

Speaker 6 (01:02:47):
Baked potato man, like a twice baked.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:02:51):
We love like a Saint Elmo's in Indianapolis.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
That Wow, we're big fans of that cocktail you like alright,
spicy the better.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
Yeah, I'll open you up. Yeah, it's the best about
burger sugar.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
Yeah right, Yeah, we're talking about three fat dirt bags.
You like saying elbow Oh, I love saying elbow man,
three fat dirt bags. We'll find that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
It's not the playboy man. I know that shrimp cocktail.

Speaker 6 (01:03:19):
Oh man, oh god.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
It's like that's so classy.

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
I like going to get a nice steak down me town.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
We put our best shirts on and like we're yelling
at each other to act right when we're in there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
I like that it's already in the sauce. I don't
got a dip, it's just sitting in there. And those
are big boys too, I don't know where they get
and we're in the landlocked steak. Are you pee in
the shower?

Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
Hold on back to that? How do you get your
steak cooked? And what's the cut of steak? You sit down?
What's the cut of steak?

Speaker 6 (01:03:47):
New York strip? Medium, rare?

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
No kid in New York sat onions, sauteed onions, a.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
Little bit of flares. Guy, that's one of those fucking
stickout pieces. Who's got the salted onions? It's markets. You
don't fucking forget. There's salted onions on the table, you know,
Marcus games around here somewhere. Ah damn, okay, very nice.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
So you're being to show you brush your teeth in there? Yeah,
you got your toothbrush in there.

Speaker 6 (01:04:14):
Toothbrush is in there. That's always the power move.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
Oh that's not great though. Leave it in there is
not great now, although they've done they've done studies that
any doesn't matter where in the bathroom it is. It's
open to the same bacteria.

Speaker 6 (01:04:28):
Somethings gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
There's just something weird to me of like I get
in the show.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
My sister used to do it, so I'd like I'd
get in the shower and then like I would get
it wet, and then like she would you, I'm like,
that's fucking grody to me, that's nasty. But if it's
just you and your wife, I get it's different.

Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
Well, see you at our house. I kind of have
the downstairs, so.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
It's just you. You got your own little domictyle.

Speaker 6 (01:04:50):
Yeah, so nobody else is really in there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
It was just the way the shower you mean, yeah,
how's that broken up? The bedroom's upstairs, master bedroom?

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
You got it?

Speaker 6 (01:04:57):
Like the main floor? Okay, she's I mean my watch,
she's messy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
Drives me crazy, these pros.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Let me tell you, I'm the messy on worlds.

Speaker 6 (01:05:12):
And I'm really meticulous. I like my space really neat,
no kidding. So all my stuff's downstairs and my sauna.
I work out and I sona and then the shower's
right there.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
Is it like build in or did you buy like one?
And it's like I bought a cheap O one. It
was like fifteen dollars on Amazon. Yeah I got I
got one too, but it is.

Speaker 6 (01:05:32):
An infrared and I sit in there. It's great. I
got a cold plunge. Bert Kresher gave me a cold plunge.
There you go, shout out, Burt.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
Shout out Burt. Shout out Burt.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
With the cold plunge. He's done more for cold plunging.

Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
Yes, yes, the man, he's on a bit of a
tear at the moment. I don't know if you've seen pictures.
Oh is he the guy's going after he's drinking.

Speaker 6 (01:05:52):
When I was talking to the bonfire guys, we were
talking about my last time off the wagon and Jay
says with Bert Krasher, I'm sure, and it was it
was actually yeah, it's like a couple of years ago and.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
There's just I mean, he's the machine of the story,
but like it's just fun drinking.

Speaker 6 (01:06:07):
Oh, he's the best.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
It's just we're going out on the road with him.
It's just like it's a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
We were in Tennessee with him. We ended up at
a frat party and that was that was. It was awesome.
It was the cool It was the coolest. It was
the coolest lot of our life.

Speaker 6 (01:06:19):
Oh, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
And man, the last night we were with him, the
porosis hadn't just come out, but that was our first
time drinking it. Man, that was going down too smooth,
and I was hammered. Man, he's calling through a hotel
in West Virginia.

Speaker 6 (01:06:32):
Oh, man, God, he's the best. Like I remember the
first time I met him, I was like hungover and
I showed up at his house just in rough shape,
you know, And I told him I'm in rough shape, buddy.
He was like, I'll sit you up. Yeah. He took
good care of me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
He's the best.

Speaker 6 (01:06:48):
He had like a Curig machine but for like cocktails
of course.

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
Which I've never seen anything like that.

Speaker 6 (01:06:55):
And then gund Yeah, we went beer for beer on
the podcast and we talked for like three hours.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
I watched that a very very very good episode.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
You can see me getting more and more.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
There's like a line where you like start straighten out
and then your teeter the other way. You're like you're
let you know, for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:07:12):
And you know what I had to do the next day,
I had to speak at a like a sober nation event.
So the first thing I had to do when I
walked in there was like, hey, I'm on over and
the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Away from.

Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
The thing about the wagon is you fall off, you
get back on. You know. I had to do that
whole speech. But yeah, that was a dark day. In
his defense, he didn't know I had to speak at us,
of course.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
It hurts the best, I'll tell you if he he
just has like this fatherly, just feel good around him,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
Just the best.

Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
I mean, listen, where are we at? The most interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
Man in the world, for sure. A couple of questions.
You open your eyes underwater in the pool.

Speaker 6 (01:07:59):
Hmm, I gotta say, no one.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
How do you feel about the rotisserie chicken? Love it?

Speaker 6 (01:08:06):
Big fan? My wife too?

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
Yeah, I knew.

Speaker 6 (01:08:09):
I knew I was gonna marry my wife. She was
on molly in a field at a festival. Took our
third date and she ate a whole rot tissue chicken
with her bare hands.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Yeah, yeah, this is it. Will you dance at a wedding.

Speaker 6 (01:08:30):
If I'm drinking? Which I'm not anymore, so, gotcha?

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
Do you do karaoke? And if so, do you have
a go to song?

Speaker 6 (01:08:37):
Last time we did it, I did the Rooster by
Alison James. My wife hosted an after bash thing where
they did karaoke at this bar in Charleston, and I
got up and I sang the Rooster with my trumpet player.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
That's awesome. Do you have a favorite cover?

Speaker 6 (01:08:53):
Favorite cover?

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (01:08:56):
Rambling man, Almond Brothers.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
You're an Almond Brothers guy. I am, yeah, throwing through right,
can't beat that. Uh? What do you call what like
a gentleman's club? You know, you know, if you were
going for people dance, Well, what were you saying, like,
let's go to the.

Speaker 6 (01:09:14):
I'd say strip club?

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
Strip club? Okay, that's the meat, that's the middle gentleman's club,
strip club, titty bar, titty bar is a bad luck
titty bars, titty bars that you've you've been to the
strip club too much when you start calling.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
It bar, you said it before, but how would you
naturally say it? Is a ground beefer is a hamburger.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
Meetun Okay, gentleman, Uh, you got name brand luggage, got
good luggage.

Speaker 6 (01:09:37):
You got vintage luggage. You got a vintage guy.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
How much was that shirt?

Speaker 6 (01:09:41):
This was probably like twenty bucks.

Speaker 5 (01:09:43):
I heard him say, new old stock, which is it?
Which is that?

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
Is a that is a very specific thing to know
in vintage correct Yeah, new old stock is it was
made at the time, but it's never been used, right, Yeah,
made in the seven these or eighties, nineties, has never
been Sultan, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
Sitting in the warehouse.

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Do you have like the old luggage, like the handle thing?

Speaker 6 (01:10:08):
Yeah, this one of my suitcase. I got a Duffel bag.
I've got this great leather Duffel bag and at the
bottom zips and I can put my boots in there.
And uh, my big luggage is like a it's like
a wardrobe or like a hey I got you Like
it folds down and it opens up and then you
unzip it and when you close it up it looks

(01:10:29):
like a suitcase. It was made by American tourister in
the seventies, sixties and seventies.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
And how many pairs of boots do you have?

Speaker 6 (01:10:37):
Man? I love cowboy boots.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
Do you have a bunch when you go out on
the when you go out on the road, do you
just bring one pair.

Speaker 6 (01:10:44):
So me and the band have a wardrobe closet on
the road, so everything's just there nice, like a little,
you know, house, So you just going to grab it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
And is that who's choosing that? And when is that chosen?
Like what you're wearing that night or was it the
same every night? Is it just like, hey, I have
five shirts I picked from.

Speaker 6 (01:11:04):
It's kind of a variation. Like we went out, like
we've been on the road a long time with Chris
Stapleton and he wears the same thing every day and
there's a lot of peace in that. And I have
kind of a variation of the same thing. But it's
just you'd be surprised just that one thing you don't
have to think about.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
I'm right there with you, you know, I have the
I have a I have three things and it's a area.
It's like a black Dicky's jacket. It's like, you know,
a car hard shirt. It's all the same.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
Jack White did that infatly, Yeah, for a long time.

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
Will you put your hand on the wall when you're
peeing at a jurnal?

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
I will really.

Speaker 6 (01:11:39):
One time I was in the Bahamas because my manager
has a house down there, Okay. I noticed it every
urnal I went to they had like a pad, like
a cushy pad on the top of every jurnal and
I finally asked somebody, It's like, that's just for anybody
that you know needs to rest their head, rest their head.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
This is living, that's emotion.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
I can get.

Speaker 6 (01:12:01):
These guys are laying in their head against this pad
on top of the general It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Are you a cologne guy.

Speaker 6 (01:12:07):
There's one cologne I like, and there's John Varvados. And
it was given to me because I've known John a
long time.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
And do you know John Varvedos?

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
I do what?

Speaker 6 (01:12:17):
Yeah? I met him through a friend of mine who
uh he actually one of.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
The thought I thought it was like Louis Vaitan or whatever.
I thought it was just like an old famous.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Yeah guy, I knew you were a vampire.

Speaker 5 (01:12:30):
Yeah, I get him.

Speaker 6 (01:12:33):
I met I met him through a mutual friend and
he I think we were doing like Fallon or something,
and he got me in the band, you know, looking right.
He had this coloonne. I was never really a cologne guy.
I used to do like Petulia oil really and I
smelled it and I really liked it. You were a
PETROLI guy. I was in high school.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
It was I was the way to have any friends.

Speaker 6 (01:12:58):
Smelling like wood chips.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
O my god, Yeah, no good Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
I mean how many? How many suits do you own?

Speaker 6 (01:13:07):
Suits? That's another thing, because you.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
Have, like I've seen you, like the vintage suits and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
It was going to kill Tony last year, the real
sharp Yeah. We were an elevator behind you.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
Oh yeah, we saw it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
I was looking.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
Oh my's we were sitting in the window. Marcus.

Speaker 6 (01:13:19):
Yeah, I love my western suits.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
How many of those do you think you have?

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Yeah, closet, full closet for walk in closet at the house.

Speaker 6 (01:13:27):
The wife does mustuff's kind of dispersed. Gotcha, you know, gotcha.

Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
Back to the boots, how many do you think you have?
Fifty fifties high fifties high probably like ten or twelve?
Ten or twelve?

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Can you wear them fresh?

Speaker 6 (01:13:42):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
Can you get a pair? Like, say you got a
show tonight?

Speaker 6 (01:13:45):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Uh, you go see a new pair of boots you like?
Can you throw them on and go?

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
Player? You got to break them in a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:13:51):
Yeah, my dogs are really fussy.

Speaker 5 (01:13:52):
Okay, man, what a way to put I gotta I gotta.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Go beyond core. Right, My dogs are barking, bags are baking.

Speaker 6 (01:14:01):
I got a guy in Nashville who makes a lot
of my boots.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Now he just makes them.

Speaker 6 (01:14:05):
Yeah, this guy named Wes. His company is called Music
City Leather, and he makes him in his basement.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
No kidding, and he's just you know, can they break
them in for you or no? That's something you have
to do on your own.

Speaker 6 (01:14:16):
See, like, the more you're willing to spend on a
pair of boots, the less the breaking period.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
It's gonna be gotcha.

Speaker 6 (01:14:22):
And whenever I talk to people about buying Cowboy boots,
like I've got every wrong and like, you know, I
don't want to name any names, but like the cheaper ones,
they're like, I can't go buy them off the shelf
and go play a gig on my feet will be.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
What's but no names are what's a cheaper one? Like
a hundred bucks? Two hundred bucks?

Speaker 6 (01:14:40):
Yeah, I mean like five hundred bucks. You don't really
want to spend less than that on cowboy boots.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
What's the most you've ever four dollars?

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 6 (01:14:52):
That's what we're looking for. Get a call from the accountant,
the hell what are you doing? And I was like,
I said, look, this is right off and they said, now,
you can't do this as a ride off. You know,
it's really only something like this is literally the example
the game. It was just like Lady Gaga's meat dress
would be a ride off because she can't wear that

(01:15:12):
out in public. And I was like, no, no, these boots.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
I ain't wasting a good New York strip.

Speaker 6 (01:15:16):
Yeah, so these boots are blue, they're swayed. You cannot,
I cannot wear these boots out war yes, for performing.
And I said, you ride them off.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (01:15:26):
And they said, well, we better not catch you wearing
them at the grocery store or something.

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
That's also a tough one. You get caught in the
fucking blue suede boots.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
You hain't the ones that I was talking about.

Speaker 6 (01:15:36):
It's another pair.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
I mean, I listen, I gotta call it. This guy's walking.
I mean, I love he's something, he's all class, but
you know what are you thinking?

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
Trash baby, he's a garbage and we love it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Thank god you're hidding me man, So good, mister Marcus
King run absolutely fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
One one last question, are you fast food guy. Oh yeah,
what do you like? Me and you? Just me and you?

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
I mean we'll cut this.

Speaker 6 (01:16:06):
I mean McDonald's you McInnes classic McDonald's double quarter pounder fish.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
The fish Kicker.

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
There was any question, If there was any question there,
it is Marcus King.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
The brand new LP Darling Blue is out right now. Buddy, congratulations,
unbelievable tale.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
We love you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Anything else you want to folks start there to know,
just thanks for having me, man.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:34):
I appreciate you, man.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
Gang, We love you. We'll see you next week.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
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