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Rachel (00:51):
Aubrey Marcus, we have
to talk about this because for
the first time, I actually don'thate him for what he is putting
out in the world.
Not to say that I ever hatedAubrey Marcus before.
I was just not a fan.
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I'm completely honest.
Like I know Ryan, my partner,went on his podcast.
Even back then, I wasn't a fan.
Ryan was a fan back in the daywhen, um, I first met him.
He listened to his podcast alot.
I could just never get on boardwith it.
I didn't really like the dude,but I will say, I know Aubrey
Marcus' recent podcast.
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It's like bringing everyone upin arms saying he's a narcissist
and.
He shouldn't be processingpublicly and all these different
things.
Someone asked me what I thoughtabout on the Aubrey Marcus shit
going on right now, you know?
'cause he's like a spiritualleader that for a long time a
lot of people have trusted andhave looked up to, and he's
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positioned himself as thisauthority.
You know, but people have alsoseen his life go through a
dumpster fire as he'spositioning himself as an
authority and then he getsmarried and people just don't
agree with his choices, youknow?
So for those of you who don'tknow, I think a lot of people
know about this, but AubreyMarcus has recently come out and
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said that he's doing polyamoryagain.
That he's not just doingmonogamy.
And um, he said that like ISISor some God told him to, I know
a lot of people think he's anarcissist spiritual leader, and
now he's processing publicly andyou know.
Polyamory didn't work for himbefore, so it's kind of weird
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that he's going back now andeveryone's being like, Hey, are
you sure you wanna go back?
And it's not just the patternrepeating and people are just
shitting on him and looking downon him and thinking he's crazy
and narcissistic and all thosethings.
And it's so funny because for solong that's why I didn't like
him.
He always radiated.
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Um, like a guy positioninghimself as the authority as
opposed to actually beingauthentic.
If I'm completely honest, I havefelt that way about most
authority figures.
It's very rare that I have feltinto someone over these last 20
years with Pluto and Capricorn.
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I mean, this is also just myadult life.
It's, it's very rare that in myadult life I have seen.
A spiritual leader, and havesaid, you're authentic.
I've always felt something offin someone, and so especially
Aubrey Marcus.
So with everyone coming out withthis now, I'm like, yeah, I've
always felt this, but I don'tfeel the same way.
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I think as everyone else withhow he is sharing his heart
right now.
I actually think this is thefirst time Aubrey is being
vulnerable and messy, and heknows that he publicly came out
and said he was never gonna dopolyamory again.
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And he knows that what he'sdoing right now is a direct
contradiction of what he hassaid before and how people have
experienced him and.
I know a lot of people arecalling him a fake and a
narcissist, and like.
Now everyone sees his patterns,but I actually think this is him
showing the world his true selfunapologetically, and not being
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afraid to be messy and wrong andchange his mind and like be the
example of a vulnerable humanexperience.
Because for some reason we putthese people on a pedestal.
Like however Aubrey Marcus hasbehaved up until this point,
people have put him on apedestal, a hierarchy, Pluto and
Capricorn.
I.
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And no one's meant to be put onthe pedestal.
There's no one above us.
There's no one above you.
There's no one above me.
But for some reason, becausepeople have positioned
themselves to be thisenlightened, hierarchical,
amazing person, we expect themto stay there in the moment we
see that they're really humanand messy and say weird things,
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we stop trusting'em.
And then it's like theirauthenticity is what makes me us
not trust them.
That's what I'm seeing rightnow.
And so, yeah, I don't agree witha lot of people.
I'm not all up in arms like, ohmy God, see?
Aubrey's a narcissist.
I'm like, dude, I've thoughtthat about him the whole time.
I actually think for the firsttime.
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Good for you dude.
Good for you for contradictingyourself publicly.
Changing your mind publicly.
Saying a weird ass shit likeIsis told you to impregnate two
women and God source told youlike, good for you.
Good for you.
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That's how I feel about it.
I just feel like for the firsttime, this man's being authentic
and not afraid to be messy andnot afraid to be vulnerable.
And this is the transition fromPluto and Capricorn to Pluto and
Aquarius.
No one was meant to be on thehierarchy.
No one was meant to be perfectfor some reason.
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We think that there was rulesaround you have to show up as an
authority and you can't processpublicly.
You know that confusing energyis now getting put on everyone
else and now everyone's upsetand up in arms people are upset
and up in arms'cause theythought that you were some ideal
person that they desired toattain and now they realize
you're actually just a fuckinghuman like everyone else.
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That's why people are really upin arms.
And maybe they're up in arms'cause they feel like you lied
to them this whole time.
But you wanna know what everyoneand their fucking mother has put
a mask on.
That's why in astrology we havea rising sign that's literally
your mask and it's a form ofhuman protection because look
what happens when people areradically authentic.
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Especially back in the day.
Last time Pluto transitionedfrom Capricorn to Aquarius, we
had all of the revolutions, theAmerican Revolution, the French
Revolution, the HaitianRevolution.
Um, we had what other, we hadthe enlightenment era.
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He was really peaking because.
We were dissolving intorevolutionary action.
Before that, we had kings andqueens.
We had hierarchy.
We had this person we looked upto.
We, we knew that we had to obeyauthority, that there was
someone above us.
There was someone more connectedto God.
And when we went from Pluto andCapricorn to Pluto and Aquarius,
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that's when we had, the AmericanRevolution like.
We're like, no, you can't be myking and queen.
No, you're not closer to Godthan me.
Actually, I'm my own God and I'mgonna rebel and we're gonna
create our whole new land andit's gonna be messy and it's
gonna be war filled, and we'regonna do it because we see
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freedom.
The freedom in being in ourauthentic selves.
And so, as much as I knoweveryone wants to hate on Aubrey
Marcus, I think he is actually.
A perfect example of thistransition.
And he's not afraid to make itmessy, and he is not afraid to
embarrass the shit out ofhimself, and he's not afraid to
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contradict himself.
And you know, if I think aboutthe podcast, the last couple
podcast episodes that I put out.
I was terrified to put those outbecause, you know, I mentioned,
I don't even know if I wannateach astrology anymore.
And then a couple episodeslater, I was like, no, it's just
integrating into my life in ahealthy way.
It will always be part of mylife.
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And I remember second guessingmyself and being like, shit, did
I just confuse people?
Shit?
Did I just dismantle my wholeaura of authority?
I literally have been sayingthat to myself the last few
days.
Because we've made these rulesaround what it means to be a
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fucking authority, as if I haveto have all of the answers
before I come to you publiclyand I have to present this
perfect image of, yes, I have anastrology business, I'm an
astrologer, and I think about a24 7.
And like I could have kept goingon and telling you that, or I
could just tell you what theprocess my mind goes through
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'cause I'm a fucking human.
And that's actually what's realand authentic.
And I don't have to positionmyself as some sort of authority
because I'm not an authority.
And neither is Aubrey Marcus,and neither is the president of
the United States.
They like to believe they are.
Hopefully I'll get in troublefor that one, but um, no one is
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your fucking authority.
No one is Aubrey's, and sothat's why it doesn't matter.
All this hate he's gettingonline, I'm fucking proud of him
for the first time in everhearing about him.
I don't give a shit if I don'tagree with anything he said, or
I think it's weird.
I mean, I don't think it's thatweird, but weird is Pluto and
Aquarius.
Aquarius is the weirdest sign.
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It's the rebellious sign.
It's the one who does thingsthat are not socially acceptable
and not part of the social norm.
They're not part of it.
So hate on.
Him all you want.
But this is one of those momentsin human history where people
hate on the people that areactually ahead of the curve,
where people hate on the peoplewho are actually anchoring into
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something and energy a way ofbeing that's going to be
normalized over the next 20years.
Happens every single time.
This isn't really the beginningof the transgender movement, but
I feel like I'm, I can tell thisstory here.
So a couple episodes ago I saidhow I'm not for this transgender
movement.
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I am for transgender people, butI'm not for this movement.
And I'll tell you.
Uh, this is a perfect example.
Okay, so I have someone in mylife that I've known my whole
entire life that is trulytransgender.
Truly.
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Before, it was cool before thismovement happened, and I
actually grew up in a veryliberal town.
I grew up in a very Jewish town.
It used to be the most denselypopulated Jewish town in the
country.
Fun fact.
Sharon, Massachusetts not thereanymore, but shout out to
Sharon.
And in my town, everyone wasliberal.
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But the thing is, is back in theday, liberal people weren't for
transgender people.
No one was for transgenderpeople.
And this person in my life whoI'm very close to, like very
close to like blood family, likeI love them to fucking death.
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Was boy born, a boy and I, orno, born a girl, sorry.
And I knew their whole life thatthey were either lesbian or
something.
I just knew that they weren'tmeant to be a girl.
I could feel it off'em and likeI could feel how uncomfortable
they felt.
And I'm not calling them.
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They, because of the stupidnames I'm calling them, they,
because at the time they were agirl and now they're a boy.
And so I'm just using they forthe transition period of this
story.
And I remember it wasn'tnormalized to even really be gay
or lesbian when this person knewthat they didn't feel right in
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their skin.
And this person was so depressedmost of their life.
And I remember one time I wasdriving this person.
To their work.
'Cause we had like a ritual ofme doing that.
And they were like smiling atthis girl, messaging them and I
asked them if they liked thegirl'cause she was a girl at the
time and said I might be bi.
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And you could tell that that waslike a huge admission.
I was the first person theyadmitted that to.
And then eventually they cameout as lesbian but still didn't
feel good in their skin, likeseverely depressed.
And I literally had always hadin my head, this person's not a
girl.
It's a guy.
Even before transgender was athing, even before they said
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anything.
And so eventually got reallydepressed.
Ended up needing to go to allthese different therapists and
come to find out that likethinking of him, of himself as a
guy actually made him feel saferand like who he truly is.
And so It was like this wholeprocess to transition into a
guy, and the process required somany different therapist notes
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because it was not like an easything to become a transgender
person back then, and they putyou through the fucking ringer
and it was not kind and it wasnot nice.
But what ended up happening wasthrough all the tests determined
they were transgender and thenwas able to transition.
This person went from serious,like really bad depression, the
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lowest low of depressions youcould have.
Most of their life to not beingdepressed anymore, to feeling
finally safe in their skin.
And this happened in highschool.
And I remember, even though Igrew up in a very liberal town,
transgender was not in backthen.
And they used to separate gownsby gender.
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And at this moment.
In time, he was like middletransitioning and wasn't really
accepted or acknowledged that hewas transitioning yet.
And so he went to the, what's itcalled?
The student council leader orthe, um, the guidance counselor,
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people.
And asked if they could separatethe gowns by last name instead
of gender because of thistransition he's going through
very bravely.
And they said yes, and they toldthat to the class and everyone
in the class ripped this persona new one, was an asshole to him
over them separating the gownsby last name instead of gender.
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Yeah, and I remember this personwas so hurt.
And I, and it was like sad forme too because I knew how, how
this person felt as a girl andhow this person felt so much
like the Marcel as a guy.
And it made sense to me becauseI'm very intuitive in my whole
life.
Even before this was a thing, Ifelt that they were a guy, not a
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girl.
And so anyways, there is such anasshole to this person that I
love and.
And then like 10 years laterwhen transgender things started
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to become cool, everyone who wasin and, and like Trump was going
for president and.
Everyone was like, and everyonein my town that I grew up in,
'cause they're all Jewishliberals, were like, fuck you,
you're the devil.
Trump.
I have no fucking opinions.
I mean, I don't think he's thebest thing in the world, but I
was not like, I'm not politicalso I'm not even gonna get into
that.
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But, um, all, all of thosepeople who were such an asshole
to this person I'm talkingabout, all of a sudden they were
for transgender people when itwas cool.
And I like was putting somepolitical stuff up at the time.
'cause I was political at thetime.
I was going against all of theirthoughts and beliefs and people
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were telling me that I was notfor transgender people and that
they were.
And they were like, fuck youbitch.
And I was like, what are youtalking about?
I'm actually for transgenderpeople.
I've always been four, like theOG.
It was like they were followingthe crowd or the news or I don't
know, all of a sudden becauseit's cool now, they're gonna
like be mean to anyone whodoesn't like transgender people,
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when literally they were theworst to the person that I love
so much.
And they were even being mean tome, saying that because of
things I was posting for who Ithought was the better
candidate.
They thought that I was not fortransgender people and more than
shitting on me.
And I was like, do you remember10 years ago?
And so that's why I, I reallybelieve the transgender movement
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has moved outta hand.
It became this popular coolthing people started to do.
And all of these people who wereso mean to, to the person that I
love the most over with, justasking for the gowns to be split
up by their last name instead ofgen gender because of what he
was going through at the time.
Now all of a sudden pretend likethey're all high and mighty and.
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Actually for those people andactually open.
That's really what I'm gettingto is Aquarius is this sign of
openness and accepting of allpeople and all humanity.
And I think we even kind offucked that up over the last 20
years.
We've made people, right orwrong, that's very Capricorn,
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Capricorn Indian.
We've made people either rightor wrong.
For their beliefs as if there'sno middle ground.
And that's really where I thinkhumanity gets it wrong, is we
tend to go between theseextremes, these pendulum
extremes.
And really the truth is alwaysin the middle.
It's always in the gray area.
It's always in the.
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And in authenticity and thatthere is no right and wrong.
And so with Aubrey Marcus comingout and saying this weird stuff
about impregnating two peopleand I don't know how ISIS told
them all these different things.
I'm like, yeah, it's fuckingweird.
And if that's what feelsauthentic and right to him and
what's true for him right now,just let him be like, why do we
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have to make things right orwrong Or take the pedestal away
from certain people?
Why do we have to call them anarcissist?
I just don't even see how thatmakes him narcissistic, to be
honest.
I know people who know AubreyMarcus, and he does kind things
for, for people, and one thingI've heard from people closest
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to him that we know is that he'sbeen taken advantage of a lot
and has to protect his heartbecause of how successful he
got.
And how he takes care ofeveryone, but very few people
take care of him, almost no one.
And I don't think that's anarcissist from what I know from
the people closest to him, butwe love to throw that term
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around.
And so I guess the point of thiswhole podcast is I just want
people to understand thatnothing is right and wrong.
And this is an age of radicalauthenticity and.
Radical shifts and changes and,and with Pluto and Aquarius, we
will gain power through ourmessiness and authenticity and
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openness and allowing people tobe them.
And because then it allows youto be fully you and we can take
the mask off when we can justbe, and that's really what I
would love to focus on in thispodcast going forward, is I
wanna just be me and I wannatalk about astrology in an
integrated way, and I wannashare.
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Other things like this, and Ijust want to share in whatever
way feels authentic withoutbeing boxed in.
So curious what you guys thinkabout that.
I put my email down below.
It's Shine Your Rayastrology@gmail.com.
I'd love to know your thoughtsif you would love to follow the
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