September 26, 2025 • 30 mins
The Atlantic Exchange - Episode 2: Concert Tales and Cultural Differences
Join Matt and Jerry for the second episode of The Atlantic Exchange! They dive into their week’s happenings, including Luca's baptism and plenty of concerts. The duo humorously discusses differences in healthcare, cultural quirks related to events, tailgating, and the stark contrast between British and American sporting experiences. Matt shares some hilarious and rather embarrassing stories from his recent festival adventures while Jerry brings up his concerns about Matt’s hearing, thanks to his concert-going habits. Get ready for unfiltered opinions, some cheeky banter, and a true glimpse into how differently people across the Atlantic enjoy their events!
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Matt (00:07):
We go.
Welcome again to the AtlanticExchange, episode two.
We've made it.
We're done.
We've done a whole episode.
Jerry, we're on episode two now.
How's it feel?
Jerry (00:14):
accomplished.
It feels good.
It
Matt (00:17):
Can we just retire now?
That's it.
We're done.
Yeah, I mean, we're still shit,so don't, don't forget if you're
tuning into episode two andexpect this to be brilliant,
we're still gonna be shit.
I predict we're gonna be shitfor at least 30 to 40 episodes,
so.
Jerry (00:30):
right.
Matt (00:31):
If we've only got 20 out there at the moment, give up,
come back later.
Um, if we do have more, pleaseskip forward to the end.
Jerry (00:38):
If,
Matt (00:38):
And as I say, things will be very different
Jerry (00:40):
if we have more than 30, 40 episodes, I, I even, I'd be
surprised in a general sense
Matt (00:47):
that we have that many or we're still shit.
Jerry (00:48):
that we just have that many, the shit part, we'll,
we'll
Matt (00:51):
Yeah, we,
Jerry (00:51):
being shitty for 50 60.
Matt (00:55):
yeah.
Uh, let's, let's start with howyour week's been.
It's been a week since we spokelast spoke.
What have you been up to?
Jerry (01:02):
yes.
Well, uh, Luca has been baptizedwonderful events.
We had some folks over afterthe, uh, after the church
ceremony, which was very nice.
Um, and just working, man, justworking a lot of travel.
How about yourself, Matt?
Matt (01:16):
Uh, as you know, I went to, went to a couple of concerts
'cause you were concerned aboutmy hearing.
Jerry (01:20):
true.
I did, I
Matt (01:21):
and you tried to put me in for an edit.
Jerry (01:23):
um, a couple of providers in area that, that deal with
Matt (01:27):
Yeah, so an ENT for anyone who's in ENT, ears, nose, and
Throat, that's who you go to tohave your hearing checked.
Jerry's concerned the amount ofconcerts I go to that it could
be bad for my hearing.
Um, he's quite rightly, but Ithink there's other concerns
there, like why is a guy goingto concert two concerts a week?
That should be.
Jerry (01:42):
the real concern.
When I went on the website, itsays there, there's a six month
wait for an appointment.
Matt (01:48):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jerry (01:49):
whole new episode.
Matt (01:50):
Free healthcare.
Free healthcare.
Yeah.
Jerry (01:52):
chat
Matt (01:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We, we do healthcare and thedifference between private Yeah,
that's be fair.
That's, that's a decent weight.
But, um, yeah.
Jerry (02:02):
Dude, I can go to my
Matt (02:03):
Okay.
Jerry (02:03):
now.
Knock on his door.
Matt (02:06):
Yeah.
Maybe episode 20 when we're notso shitty.
We're talk about healthcare.
Yeah.
What we drinking at the momentis that tea, coughing
Jerry (02:12):
Some coffee.
It's a little early here.
It's eight o'clock.
Matt (02:14):
sound.
How do you take your coffee?
You black sugar.
What's going on with black?
No sugar.
Jerry (02:21):
black.
It, it, it makes me go to thebathroom.
Perhaps not something I shouldshare on a podcast, but yes.
Matt (02:26):
No.
But if you do, maybe that'sanother podcast we're doing from
the bathroom.
Jerry (02:30):
bridge shit versus
Matt (02:32):
Um, yeah.
So yes, I went to concerts.
So let's talk about thisobviously Coldplay.
Now obviously some listeners maynot be Coldplay fans, that's
fair enough.
But you can't deny they put on agood show.
Um, as you know, I dunno ifyou've seen footage, everyone
gets a light up wristband.
Jerry (02:44):
Super common here.
Matt (02:45):
they're kind of, yeah.
I mean, but they invented, theyinvented four Coldplay.
They actually, they weren'tinvented by Coldplay, but the
very first ever night atwristbands were, were a
Coldplay, a guy who was a bigColdplay fan.
He invented it.
The technology set it.
Some Coldplay music sent it toColdplay.
They liked it.
Um, I think in the original demohe did, he, he put a load of dog
(03:06):
collars on about 20 dogs and lethim free at night on a golf
course and let him run aroundwith Coldplay music playing.
Um, Coldplay loved it.
Uh, and then they adopted itabout.
2010 and I think they were likethe third iteration of these
bands.
But there's other companies nowthat do, because I went, when I
went see Lewis Kadi on Tuesday.
Similar, not as good as theColdplay bands.
(03:27):
Uh, but yes, very similartechnology.
So it's kind of just given thenorm now, isn't it?
That you go to a concert, youget a light up band.
Alright, my, I've got draws fullof me.
It always says recycle at theend.
No, no, no, please.
This is coming home with me tonever be used again.
Jerry (03:40):
go to as many concerts as you do, but I was in Puerto
Rico, uh, a couple weeks ago tosee Bad Bunny and everyone
received a, uh, sort of like anecklace with a camera on it
that was lighting up throughoutthe concert.
Matt (03:53):
Okay, so this isn't a real camera you can take photos with,
or
Jerry (03:57):
for the show.
Right.
Similar to the wristband.
So it, you know, it, it, it goeson beat, different colors.
The camera itself is inreference to one of his.
One of his songs.
That's probably the most popularsong that he has out now.
Um, and it was cool.
It
Matt (04:10):
it's on the tip of my tongue, but just, just, just
because it's not there.
What's the song called?
Jerry (04:14):
de I should have, I should have, I
Matt (04:16):
That was it.
I was, I was, that's what I wasabout to say.
Yeah.
Was it that one?
Jerry (04:21):
more photos.
Right.
That, that's essentially the
Matt (04:24):
Is that from the Oasis album?
Jerry (04:25):
from the Oasis album, which is,
Matt (04:27):
Oh, okay.
Jerry (04:28):
correlation between those two.
And that's where it ends.
Matt (04:32):
Okay.
See, so Jerry and I have verydifferent tastes of music.
That's fine.
Um, obviously he always sends methese artists like Bad Bunny Ho
I'm not aware of.
And so I, but I always look'emup and quote albums just to sort
of, so he thinks I've got thisknowledge.
And he's like, oh yeah, that's,I think I always was The second
album was that the collaborationalbum?
Or, and I, I said to him, hisOasis is that, is that we just
(04:55):
did a cover of All Oasis songs,but apparently it's not, which
is a shame.
I think that would've beeninteresting.
Jerry (04:59):
what did you do?
I'll share what I did, uh, priorto the Bad Bunny concert, but
what did you do as a Brit priorto going to the Louis Capaldi
concert or the Oasis concert?
What, what, what are
Matt (05:09):
Okay, so the very.
Jerry (05:10):
to you walking into the stadium looking like,
Matt (05:13):
Yeah.
And that, that, that leads ourtopic today is actually sort of
events.
So that leads nicely into that.
So they're very different.
So Louis Capaldi, uh, uh, I wentwith, with my wife Jen.
Um, we went for a meal.
Uh, I wasn't drinking actually.
I drove, we wanted Louis Capaldiwent home.
Uh, Coldplay.
Very different.
(05:33):
I Coldplay, uh, I, I wasactually, I was, I was meeting
up with Jen's.
Brother's wife, um, she wasrunning late in traffic, so an
hour and a half on my own.
So I went to a bar called theBox Park at Wembley and just
drank heavily for an hour and ahalf on my own, and then went to
(05:53):
see Coldplay, and I carried onthe drinking while I was in
Coldplay.
So I, I, I think I probably hadclose to about 10 pints during
Coldplay.
It was fair.
Yeah, that's how you gotta seeColdplay, isn't it?
Jerry (06:04):
is you missed half the concert'cause you were stuck in
the bathroom taking a piss.
Matt (06:09):
No great bathroom stories.
Not every day you hear a co aColdplay bathroom story.
I have a couple, like, uh, Itook, I took my very first shit
at Wembley the other day.
That was during Coldplay.
Not this one.
This was prior prior time I sawColdplay.
And I did actually think, whenwas the first time someone's
ever taken a shit at a concert?
'cause you just don't do that,do you?
I dunno if you've ever done it.
Jerry (06:27):
That's probably something I wouldn't admit out loud, but
Matt (06:31):
Who's, let's be honest.
Jerry, who's listening?
Yeah.
Who's listening?
Jerry (06:36):
Who's listening exactly.
Matt (06:38):
It's listening.
Um, second one.
Yeah, so I was in the queue forthe toilets on Friday.
Uh, quite large, uh, probablyWembley, always not enough
toilets for the stadium.
And this guy comes up to me, hehad high vis and he went, follow
me.
I didn't even, I didn't evenquestion him.
I followed him.
Me and a couple of guys justfollowed this guy and he started
taking us to the exit and Ithought, oh, okay, this is, it's
(07:01):
not great.
I could see the exit of Wembleyand literally by the exit was a
little toilet door.
Went in there, massive bathroom,no one in there.
It was brilliant.
I kept that to myself.
Jerry (07:09):
open and
Matt (07:10):
Well, when the other.
Jerry (07:10):
care.
Matt (07:12):
Yeah, as people were coming in, they just saw me.
Hey, hey Aiden.
Yeah.
So that was cold.
We're talk about the actualmusic of Coldplay Lewis Kadi.
That's not what we're here forreally?
Is it?
You know, you you wanna knowthat?
Look'em up.
But, uh, yeah, they're myconcerts for the week.
Um, so yeah.
So let's, let's talk, let's talkevents.
So
Jerry (07:32):
I apologize.
Sorry, I'm, I'm, I'm
Matt (07:35):
actually physically pause.
Jerry (07:36):
and she has my child.
Hold on.
Matt (07:40):
Out the first seven minutes or it'll go
Jerry (07:42):
would be
Matt (07:43):
on recording
Jerry (07:43):
that was
Matt (07:44):
that we've done.
Yeah.
Jerry (07:45):
as shit as the first one.
So we were actually
Matt (07:50):
Is that our tagline?
Tagline.
Not as shit as the previousepisode.
Anyway, so.
Jerry (07:58):
you made a really good point before, right?
Uh, where essentially you saidyou went to the pub, You had
some pints and then.
You headed into the stadium.
Very different here, right?
So when you were here for summerslam tailgating, concert
sporting event, that's the thingto do.
Matt (08:17):
That still blows my mind.
That's what you guys do.
I think the reason, there's tworeasons we don't do it.
A we seems drinking and drivingover there is something that you
just don't care for.
Um, also, we just don't have thespace around the stadium.
So,
Jerry (08:30):
We're we're super car-centric
Matt (08:32):
there's a stadium in a, a.
Yeah, so obviously any stadium,especially in London, if there's
space around it, they're gonnabuild something else.
Some other real estate of somesort.
That could be shops, that couldbe restaurants, especially
flats.
'cause flats.
You obviously can build them upand you can get a lot of, a lot
of people in there.
Um, Wembley go back to the, theprevious Wembley, which got
knocked down.
(08:52):
2001 maybe
Jerry (08:53):
right.
Matt (08:54):
that, um.
There was massive car parks.
It's very similar to MetLife,car parks all around it.
You could park there, skip 4, 25years.
Now there's, there's, uh, maybetwo car parks and they're
multi-story.
So, oh, as you know, you can'treally tailgate a multi-story,
but as you say, many peopledon't.
I think there's threeunderground lines going into
Wembley.
Um, people get there by tube.
(09:16):
That's why they had to move.
We had a tube strike the otherday.
So Coldplay or any artists thathad a concert in London, they
just had to cancel'em because ifyou can't get, if tube's the
only way into these venues, youknow, I think it's 90,000,
85,000 go to Wembley.
If you can't get, you can't getany other way there.
So you just have to move.
And Coldplay moved it PostMalone.
They had to cancel theirconcerts just moving to another
(09:36):
date.
So yes, so the tailgate.
So as you say, I went, I kindsaw you last month.
We went to Summer Slam MetLife.
Completely different experience.
I mean, you've got these A,you've got this, it's in the
middle of nowhere.
You've got these massive opencar parks.
People pull up.
It just made you getting out.
Marquees tables, speakersystems, there was DJs setting
up.
It was an amazing experience.
And people you're drinking, Ithink we in sort of three, four
(09:57):
hours before we go in and thenyou go in.
So when you are in there, so.
Some that might be different.
But say it's a football, um, isit mainly football people
tailgate for or is it allsporting events?
Jerry (10:08):
All sporting events, you're gonna see some sail
gating.
Matt (10:10):
So once you're in there, what's the drinking situation
like?
Do you just do all your drinkingbefore and now you're just in
there to watch the sportingevent?
Or are you drinking during thesporting event?
Jerry (10:17):
So you're still drinking, you're, you're still,
Matt (10:19):
I.
Jerry (10:19):
you know, you're, you're getting a proper sized beer.
Right?
I've been to a couple events inthe uk and it's just, I, I the
real concern with the size ofthe beer that you get.
Matt (10:32):
See, see, this is obviously, and you may not know,
you may know, but our listeners,
Jerry (10:36):
Our
Matt (10:36):
listeners,
Jerry (10:37):
two of
Matt (10:38):
yeah, listeners, two of them are wives.
Jerry (10:41):
Yeah, because we're forcing
Matt (10:42):
they, you know that you, because you can't, you're not
allowed to drink alcohol whilewatching football in the uk.
You see?
Are you aware of this rule?
Jerry (10:49):
no.
Matt (10:50):
So, yeah, it came in about 40 years ago.
Uh, they brought in a law that'sillegal to drink alcohol while
you can view the pitch.
So if you've got line of sightto the pitch, you can't drink
alcohol.
So what would happen is youwould go to, let's say you go to
a.
Football event you would go to,obviously to the pub before you
(11:12):
drink, you get to the stadium,you can drink, but you can't
take your drinks to the seat.
So what's different in what Inotice at the American stadiums
from the bar, you can actuallyeven see, you can see the pitch
deal, can't you?
Just, it's just a straight seat.
'cause maybe the seat's a bank,so they go down.
It's different in the uk youcan't actually.
Pretty much a brick wall.
You have to go through a door oror an entrance to then get to
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your seat so you can't see thepitch at any point where you got
the alcohol so you can drink atthe bar.
I think they stopped servingjust before kickoff.
And yeah, you can't take anyalcohol again.
Half time after the match youcan drink, but it's just
illegal.
Take any alcohol, see yourseats, and be able to see the
pitch.
Jerry (11:49):
That's very unfortunate.
Matt (11:51):
Let's put you off and see a football match now, isn't it?
Jerry (11:53):
That's, that's, that's outrageous.
I'm assuming folks try to sneakalcohol in or
Matt (12:00):
Uh, do you know what?
I've never actually, no, I'venever seen anyone do it because
there's so many stewards, uh,
Jerry (12:05):
You'll get
Matt (12:06):
in the grounds then standing, watching people and
they're just watching.
You get kicked out, you getbanned.
I remember once I went to afootball match, and I don't
think a guy knew this rule, sohe bought like.
Four or five beers.
He had him in like a carry thingand somehow he must have got
past.
He wasn't, he didn't evenrealize that it was, wasn't a
thing.
He got past, like the stewards,maybe they were looking outta
way and you saw him walking upto his stand with like these
(12:27):
four or five beers.
I've never seen so many stewardsjump this guy as quickly as
possible and literally drag himout
Jerry (12:32):
boxes?
Can't even drink in the
Matt (12:35):
again.
They, they've got, yep.
So they have to, uh, they haveto close a curtain, uh, if
they're serving alcohol or the,the bow in there has to stop
serving alcohol.
Basically, if you can, I thinkit goes down to all
professional.
I think the law is allprofessional tears of football
and while football's on, you'renot allowed to have alcohol and
(12:55):
it won't have actual line ofsight.
If you watch it through a TVscreen, that's fine.
Obviously can you go to a barand watch it?
But if you've got actual line ofsight of the pitch, you cannot
drink alcohol.
Jerry (13:04):
get it because in the US cheerleaders, right, we have
cheerleaders, right?
There's no cheerleaders in theuk, or at least I haven't seen.
No.
Yeah, neither.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We, we have cheerleaders thatare essentially leading the
chance in, uh, in the US but inthe uk it's like a father of two
named Gareth that's been drunksince like 10:00 AM leading the
(13:28):
chance.
So I, I can see why alcoholmight be a problem during the
middle of the game.
Matt (13:36):
And also the, the chance in the US are very positive base
towards the team.
The chance in the UK from Garyand his son in the stands are
more negative to a, the team,the referee.
They're normally, you'd besurprised, they normally, they,
they normally ch negative stufftowards their team more than the
other team.
Yeah.
It's like people pay good moneyto go and completely scream
(13:58):
abuse at their football team.
Jerry (13:59):
Why is that?
Why is it that essentially theBrits during a sporting event
just become stereotypicalAmericans?
Like loud and obnoxious.
Matt (14:10):
I, I think it's more, I think it's more than that.
I think we pretty much say like,hold my beer.
Well, don't hold my beer.
I wanna drink it.
But we literally say, oh, that'scute.
We're like, oh, that's cute.
You, you turn up with a marquee.
Now watch us when there's amajor sport, like a World Cup or
something.
Now watch us.
Jerry (14:24):
therapy for you guys.
'cause composed, everyone'salways relaxed, but suddenly a
sporting event comes on and it'sjust, you let loose.
Matt (14:35):
It's, it's like when you see footage of riots, uh,
basically sometimes you, if Ishowed you footage and you go,
is this, yeah.
If I showed you footage, you go,is this riot or is this just
people preparing for Englandplaying in the World Cup?
You sometimes it's, it's verysimilar, especially we see Brits
of ball.
Jerry (14:52):
or lose cars are getting flipped over.
Matt (14:56):
Yeah, I mean, Paris is pretty bad.
France is pretty bad for that.
I mean, nothing, there's notobvious major.
Someone could win sort of MissFrance and they're gonna,
they're gonna write the city andburn it down.
They just love, they have anyexcuse to burn it down.
They must have really great fireinsurance over in France or
something.
'cause they're always, they'realways the other news.
Paris is on fire again, butyeah.
(15:18):
Yeah.
Great healthcare.
They don't mind.
Um.
Yeah.
It's, it's the, the worst.
It's when we're playing abroadin a cup, like a, the Euros or
the World Cup.
So every two years, the, the,it's not really the Brits, it's
the, it's more the, well, no,the, the English and the
Scottish, you'll see they have areputation as well, but it's the
English have the bad name for,um.
(15:39):
For the, for the hooligans andall that that you see.
And it, it, I've seen somefootage is shocking.
It's, I dunno if it's, it's notso bad now.
Maybe, I don't know, maybe theyjust don't televise it as much
or people have grown up and it'sjust the younger generation
don't do it so much.
But yeah, it's think like, evenclubs would have gangs.
So you'd have, um, each, eachfootball club would actually
have a, an associated gang.
(15:59):
And those would be like, likegangs you would see in America,
these are gangs that would goaround and they would meet up.
They're not really there for thefootball.
They, they'd meet up with theother gang.
They just have a street fire andthat's their, that's their day.
I mean, have you seen the film?
Have you seen the film FootballFactory?
Jerry (16:12):
very familiar with what you're referencing.
It's still mind boggling folksthat aren't even going to watch
the game, they're just, youknow, it's,
Matt (16:20):
Yeah.
Jerry (16:20):
you know, they're, they're coming out of work from
their factory and they're like,all right, I'll see you in two
hours after some beers.
Let's throw some punches andthen I'm gonna go home to my
family.
Matt (16:30):
Yeah.
Watch a game on tv.
Well, no, not on tv.
Can't watch it on tv.
So that's another thing we'llget to, but
Jerry (16:34):
up after the fight.
But
Matt (16:36):
prison, prison.
It is the same, but then youwould get people to go
tailgating, but wouldn't go tothe match after, wouldn't you?
Jerry (16:43):
you do see that it isn't as, it isn't as common, but it
does very much happen becausetailgating is its own event.
As you saw, right.
The, the, the players, uh, the,the, some of the folks from the
concert, or even in the WEsummer slam event that we went
to, right?
There were wrestlers that cameout to the tailgating event just
to meet with the fans.
(17:03):
It's, it's genuinely its ownevent.
You pay for parking, it's like$80 to park.
It's ridiculous.
I better get something out ofit, you know.
Matt (17:11):
I mean, I think it's, yeah, I mean it's similar cost
for parking here, for Wembleyand that, but what I did enjoy
mostly about it is, you know,this is something that you, I
dunno how many tailgate eventsyou've done in your life.
10, 20, 30, 50,
Jerry (17:23):
hundreds every, every
Matt (17:26):
and,
Jerry (17:26):
event,
Matt (17:27):
you and your.
Jerry (17:27):
football game, concerts,
Matt (17:32):
Now many of these games, you've played beer pong at these
tailgate events, haven't you?
Jerry (17:35):
Flip cup.
Yeah.
Matt (17:38):
Yeah, I've rocked up, played one game of beer, beer
pong in my life, kickedeveryone's ass.
That just shows how it, it justshows A, your shit, and B, we
know how to do it.
Jerry (17:49):
weren't drunk enough.
I think that was the issue.
Matt (17:52):
No, that's the thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fair, fair.
I'll give you that.
So events.
Jerry (17:58):
Events.
I gotta ask, what is the foodsituation at these sporting
events?
Matt (18:05):
Overpriced and usually not great
Jerry (18:09):
Agreed.
Probably the same.
Super expensive here, but whatare you guys eating?
Like what's a typical, you'regonna grab a beer, it's
halftime.
What?
What are you, what are you, youknow, sort of taking it down
with,
Matt (18:19):
again.
So what I would do is if we'regoing, most people are gonna go
to some sort of pub before,maybe grab some food before.
The, the food at the stadium,it's all very similar.
It doesn't matter where you'rein the world, they're the same.
You know, you're gonna getburgers, chicken tenders, hot
dogs.
Um, it's gonna be minimum 10, 15pounds for a burger for a meal.
But it's not gonna be the bestfood.
So personally, I'll try and eatbefore I go, like a, where the
(18:43):
spoons, I know you, you'veexperienced weather spoons,
food, you can.
Jerry (18:45):
weatherspoon.
Matt (18:47):
What I like about weather food is you go in there, you can
order round of drinks, maybesome food for the whole table.
Uh, you can pay with a 20 poundnote and you're gonna get at
least 10 pound change from that.
So, which, which is quiteenjoyable.
Um.
Yeah.
And the events.
And the other thing about the,the other thing you might not
know about, actually I'm not afootball, football knowledge,
don't, do not come to thispodcast expecting
Jerry (19:09):
sport
Matt (19:10):
football knowledge'cause it's, it's not made but sport
knowledge.
But the other thing is, so youcan't show football between
three, the three, the 3:00 PMmatches on Saturday.
They're, they're the, they weresort of really the only ones and
they branched out obviously asfootball's got bigger and they
do'em at 12, they're doing five.
But the 3:00 PM one could not betelevised legally in the
country.
Um.
You can find it on othercountries can show it, but, and
(19:33):
the reason is I always thoughtit was'cause people wouldn't go
to the games'cause, but they setout.
But the reason is, is to protectthe lower leagues.
So you think if you are, you'drather be at home three o'clock
watching Liverpool man, UnitedMan City.
So then no one's going to theother clubs like the, the
second, the third division, thegrassroots clubs.
No one's going to watch thosematches'cause it's not, these
(19:54):
matches aren't on TV.
Jerry (19:55):
diehard.
Matt (19:58):
They're brilliant.
You've got no fans.
I love that guy.
Jerry (20:02):
I mean, tho those, those fans in the lower leagues, I
mean.
They're, they live and die bytheir local neighborhood team or
whatever that is,
Matt (20:13):
yeah.
See that's the thing.
So you've got.
You've got these, you've got ateam like Reham, which are
really just made up of thediehard fans now.
And now these have been shovedinto the limelight.
These are now a championshipteam.
They're the second divisionteam, so they're playing with,
with the big boys, but they'renot used to that.
Obviously.
Now they've attracted two, threetimes fold fan base'cause
they're a global brand.
But yeah, it's, it's a verydifferent thing.
(20:34):
When you go to a lower league,could you, there normally stands
sometimes, so you're still not,you're not sitting, it's.
It's a different experience, butyeah.
So it's protect those.
And I know you have a similarthing in America, which is maybe
a better idea.
You're not allowed to, now,correct me if I'm wrong, you
can't play professional footballon a Friday, is that correct?
Jerry (20:53):
Well, there's certain days that we have professional
football.
It's primarily Sunday, one gameon Monday.
Most games are on Sunday, onegame on Monday.
And then just recently, a coupleyears ago, they added one.
Game on Thursdays, but Sunday isthe primary football Sunday is
what we live by.
Matt (21:09):
And Friday's college football.
Is that correct?
Jerry (21:11):
Saturdays, Fridays,
Matt (21:13):
Yeah.
So, so yeah.
So again, it protects them.
So there's always gonna beattracting those crowds'cause
they're not going to an NFL gamethat night.
So it's a similar idea.
You've gotta protect thegrassroots.
Uh, I suppose while we're on thesubject of events, concerts,
festivals, now I have been to afestival in the us.
Granted it was not.
(21:35):
It was called when we wereyoung.
Uh, it was more of a, in aconcrete car park with two
stages.
But I still feel that the Britsin the uk they do festivals
better than, than the us.
I mean, I, I debate this withme, but obviously I think the
only one I know of really isCoachella.
I'm not sure what another, Idunno what other large festivals
(21:56):
are.
There's probably loads andpeople would argue there's
probably hundreds in America,but they're globally branded
that make their way over here.
I think.
Was it Burning Man as well?
Jerry (22:04):
It's the, the festival game has changed in the US where
it's essentially glamping.
Matt (22:11):
Yeah.
See that's the thing.
It's like Coachella, the wayit's portrayed over here, it's a
very Instagram.
Influencer based festival.
You go there, you go there forthe likes.
Um, where Glastonbury, you gothere'cause you wanna stink a
piss for five days.
They're very different sort of
Jerry (22:28):
it.
Matt (22:29):
feels, aren't they?
Like Glastonbury, you, you can'tshower in there.
There are some showers butthere're very limited.
It's, there's a few, um.
You can take your own alcoholin, you can take it around with
you all day, which is the onlyfestival I know that can do
that.
So it people, you see peopledrag in a bathtub of, of alcohol
around on a trolley and that's'cause they can just, they're
not gonna buy alcohol there.
(22:50):
How they make money sellingalcohol at Bury.
I dunno.
I, I, I actually had a backpackfull of it every day.
Jerry (22:56):
that's, you can't bring any outside food or drinks.
It's$18 for a water.
It's ridiculous.
Matt (23:04):
Yeah.
I mean, you can take.
A lot of festivals you can takeoutside food and drink in just
can't be alcohol.
Glasbury, as I say, Glasbury isthe only one in, in the country
that I'm aware of that let youtake alcohol into the festival.
Jerry (23:15):
I.
Matt (23:16):
Um, obviously people will try and sneak it in.
I've done it myself.
My my preferred way is cheaper.
Pringles, take a couple ofcrisps out, put a bottle of
vodka in Pringles on top.
Hey, no one's gonna, no, andyou've got some Pringles as well
'cause you know you're gonna gethungry as you're drinking that
vodka.
Jerry (23:30):
to share your most recent festival story?
Matt (23:33):
Why not?
So the, it wasn't the lastfestival I went to actually, but
a recent festival I went to thisyear, either white festival, one
of the top five biggestfestivals in the country,
probably.
Um, there was a bar and it washot.
So I was drinking alcoholthroughout the day.
Now these are.
I'm not a medical expert, butprobably not advised, uh, as the
(23:53):
night got on, woke goodbye tothe, the wife and kids, they
went to bed.
I thought, okay, now it's, it'ssafe to drink.
Now it's time to party.
So, so at this point, vodkaswere coming out.
Uh, watch some good bands.
So watch this script.
I remember them.
I was there for Stereophonics.
That's what I wanted to see.
Apparently they played, I don'tremember, tried to look back at
the footage on my phone the nextday, just the floor.
(24:15):
Um, anyway, at some pointbetween Stereophonics and.
The next band I wanted to see,I, this is only, this has only
recaps me afterwards by people Ilent on some crowd control
barriers, but decide to fall andbring the crowd control barriers
down with me.
So, so at this point now I'mentangled on the floor with
barriers on top of me.
I'm on top of barriers and I'mtrying to get up.
(24:37):
Security are trying to help meup.
They help me up and I spilled mydrink over them.
But I'm more surprised I didn'tspill my drink as I went down.
How I managed to keep that drinkin its glass.
That blows me.
But then I got up, just spill mydrink over security and yet they
still haven't thrown me out ofthe thing.
They just,
Jerry (24:54):
of their concerns that
Matt (24:58):
yeah.
Well, I mean,
Jerry (24:58):
Yeah.
Matt (24:59):
they had to rebuild a load of crowd control barriers.
They were pretty busy afterthat, so, so anyway, I go home
the next day when I wake up,I'm, I'm covered in bruises and
cuts and I.
For life.
Me think why, and then I gettold by a few people, it's
exactly what happened.
So the rule is here, you don'tdrink at a festival.
But no, that's not the rulehere.
(25:20):
What is the rule?
What do we do?
Please help me.
Yeah.
Jerry (25:23):
I mean, listen, I, I think, I mean, binge, binge
drinking in a general sense ishuge in the uk, uh, but at
concerts and sporting events,you guys really take it to
another level.
It's a good time.
It's a good
Matt (25:36):
Yeah.
I mean.
Next, my next concert will benext weekend.
Gonna see Oasis.
Um.
I've made sure that I've, I'veseen sober, but now next time is
a drinking day.
So I've, this is, this is a truestory now it's a concert in the
evening, but I've had to thentell, I've gotta take my
(25:57):
daughter to a party.
But I've had to say that I'vegot to leave the party at two.
'cause I'm going to a concertthat night.
That's because I need to be inLondon to start drinking at
three o'clock before the concertstarts.
So.
Yeah, so that's the, therecording, the podcast recording
after that, concert's gonna beinteresting.
I mean, I won't remember it, butit'd be interesting
Jerry (26:15):
it's gonna be beautiful.
That's, that's, that's the stuffthe podcasts are made of
Matt (26:21):
Yeah.
Stories that you shouldn't betelling to anyone, but yet
Jerry (26:24):
exactly.
Matt (26:25):
to everyone.
Jerry (26:25):
My apologies to any future employers that are
watching this.
I.
Matt (26:30):
Yeah.
I mean.
Yeah, I, I mean, I do, I doagree that you, there's some
stuff you shouldn't post online'cause employees can watch, but,
you know,
Jerry (26:42):
I mean, what
Matt (26:43):
I, I don't hide that, but Yeah.
Yeah.
And I, you can't get drunk at aconcert.
What can you do?
I mean, I've probably been to, Idon't know, a hundred plus
concerts and a handful of themwere sober.
Jerry (26:58):
Oh, of course.
Listen, it enhances theexperience, right?
There's no way around it
Matt (27:03):
Well, no, it, no.
If anything it, it, it doesn't,it actually dos down the
experience.
'cause the whole perception, thesound and all that is, you know,
you're not gonna hear it aswell, you're not gonna remember
it.
So, I've actually cons, I've,I've been too sober.
I've actually said, oh, that'sone, probably one of the best
concerts I've been through in mylife.
'cause you know, the experience,I remember it, the sound was,
you can really immerse yourself.
(27:24):
But I, I hear what you'resaying.
It's, you don't have to go.
Sometimes you have to go andhave a drink.
It's what it's like.
Same as going to a footballmatch, you know, can you imagine
going to a football match or anysporting event and not drinking?
Jerry (27:34):
it's impossible.
Matt (27:35):
I mean, you couldn't go watch a chill Netflix without a
drink, could you?
So let alone going to a sportingevent.
Jerry (27:40):
Not at all.
Matt (27:42):
Anyway, I think we, uh,
Jerry (27:43):
here mad.
Matt (27:43):
I think we've covered sport.
I think we, I think we've, we'vepretty much covered every single
event that would ever happen inthe UK and us.
I think we've summed that up ina good 20 minutes.
There.
There's nothing we've missed.
Um,
Jerry (27:54):
the
Matt (27:54):
again, it's not probably.
Jerry (27:56):
really have is I would like a bit more energy around,
the national anthem.
Here we have just, you know, thehottest or one of the a, a major
r and b artist singing thenational Anthem fireworks.
There's fighter jets, a B12bombers flying over the stadium
(28:17):
and in the UK it's like 30seconds of God save the king.
Very monotone.
are yelling.
It's, it's a, it's a hugedifference.
Matt (28:28):
I mean, I'm not sure that's, it's not really a
national pride.
I think you just have, you havea lot of pride in your national
anthem, don't you?
You're like, you know, that'slike your top song that you like
to, to play.
It's.
It's, I think there's, peopleare very torn.
Jerry (28:39):
for 2025.
Don't get me wrong.
Matt (28:43):
Your Spotify wrapped is not gonna have the, uh, the
National Anthem star SpangledBanners not number one on
Spotify wrapped.
What do you mean?
Yeah, no, I do agree that I, I,I've, I've been to US sport
events and it's, they alwayshave, yeah.
A top service.
They do.
They started to do that here.
I've been to some, and they'vehad, I wouldn't say it's been a
top celebrity, but they've had afamous person sing their anthem.
But again, it's not really, andwe don't do it all sporting
(29:05):
events.
So would you do it every, isevery sporting event in the us
Do you have the anthem?
Jerry (29:10):
Pretty much, yeah, absolutely.
Matt (29:13):
Yeah.
See, we would have it for, uh,like England would play in, in a
competition, but if you just goto like a.
Like a Premier League game.
We wouldn't have the Nashanthem.
That's just, just, just get on,it's three o'clock, let's go.
We've got drink, we've gotdrinking to do.
We can't, don't forget, we can'tdrink.
At this point.
We're sitting down.
Jerry, we were, let's get thisover and done with.
(29:36):
Come on, let's get this.
Hurry the fuck up.
I want a beer.
Okay, so
Jerry (29:41):
are
Matt (29:41):
that's why, right.
Jerry (29:43):
even local to me, where at 7:00 PM every day they play
the national anthem and peoplestop drinking and it's very
strange.
Matt (29:51):
Yeah, that's different experience.
Jerry (29:54):
Yeah.
We'll, we'll chat more aboutthat on
Matt (29:56):
Okay.
Well, yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, okay.
Well till next week, uh, let's,let's see.
We can, let's see.
We can, as you say, uh, let'srecap.
So we had a strong seven minutesand then it went downhill.
Jerry (30:09):
Well, we, we still
Matt (30:10):
Yeah.
Jerry (30:11):
um,
Matt (30:11):
Let's see if.
Jerry (30:11):
still have that seven minutes, right?
We should.
Matt (30:16):
Okay.
If you're choosing this podcastin, it's 22 minutes long, and it
starts off by saying we've lostseven minutes, the answer's no.
Okay.
So let's see.
If this podcast is just comingup to 30 minutes, then you know
that you've got the full, you'vegot the full, the full pleasure.
Yeah.
Okay, well, I'll speak to younext week.
(30:37):
Let's see if we can get a good10 minutes of, uh, quality
content before it tails off.
Jerry (30:41):
to the Atlantic Exchange.
I.
We go.
Welcome again to the AtlanticExchange, episode two.
We've made it.
We're done.
We've done a whole episode.
Jerry, we're on episode two now.
How's it feel?
Jerry (00:14):
accomplished.
It feels good.
It
Matt (00:17):
Can we just retire now?
That's it.
We're done.
Yeah, I mean, we're still shit,so don't, don't forget if you're
tuning into episode two andexpect this to be brilliant,
we're still gonna be shit.
I predict we're gonna be shitfor at least 30 to 40 episodes,
so.
Jerry (00:30):
right.
Matt (00:31):
If we've only got 20 out there at the moment, give up,
come back later.
Um, if we do have more, pleaseskip forward to the end.
Jerry (00:38):
If,
Matt (00:38):
And as I say, things will be very different
Jerry (00:40):
if we have more than 30, 40 episodes, I, I even, I'd be
surprised in a general sense
Matt (00:47):
that we have that many or we're still shit.
Jerry (00:48):
that we just have that many, the shit part, we'll,
we'll
Matt (00:51):
Yeah, we,
Jerry (00:51):
being shitty for 50 60.
Matt (00:55):
yeah.
Uh, let's, let's start with howyour week's been.
It's been a week since we spokelast spoke.
What have you been up to?
Jerry (01:02):
yes.
Well, uh, Luca has been baptizedwonderful events.
We had some folks over afterthe, uh, after the church
ceremony, which was very nice.
Um, and just working, man, justworking a lot of travel.
How about yourself, Matt?
Matt (01:16):
Uh, as you know, I went to, went to a couple of concerts
'cause you were concerned aboutmy hearing.
Jerry (01:20):
true.
I did, I
Matt (01:21):
and you tried to put me in for an edit.
Jerry (01:23):
um, a couple of providers in area that, that deal with
Matt (01:27):
Yeah, so an ENT for anyone who's in ENT, ears, nose, and
Throat, that's who you go to tohave your hearing checked.
Jerry's concerned the amount ofconcerts I go to that it could
be bad for my hearing.
Um, he's quite rightly, but Ithink there's other concerns
there, like why is a guy goingto concert two concerts a week?
That should be.
Jerry (01:42):
the real concern.
When I went on the website, itsays there, there's a six month
wait for an appointment.
Matt (01:48):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jerry (01:49):
whole new episode.
Matt (01:50):
Free healthcare.
Free healthcare.
Yeah.
Jerry (01:52):
chat
Matt (01:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We, we do healthcare and thedifference between private Yeah,
that's be fair.
That's, that's a decent weight.
But, um, yeah.
Jerry (02:02):
Dude, I can go to my
Matt (02:03):
Okay.
Jerry (02:03):
now.
Knock on his door.
Matt (02:06):
Yeah.
Maybe episode 20 when we're notso shitty.
We're talk about healthcare.
Yeah.
What we drinking at the momentis that tea, coughing
Jerry (02:12):
Some coffee.
It's a little early here.
It's eight o'clock.
Matt (02:14):
sound.
How do you take your coffee?
You black sugar.
What's going on with black?
No sugar.
Jerry (02:21):
black.
It, it, it makes me go to thebathroom.
Perhaps not something I shouldshare on a podcast, but yes.
Matt (02:26):
No.
But if you do, maybe that'sanother podcast we're doing from
the bathroom.
Jerry (02:30):
bridge shit versus
Matt (02:32):
Um, yeah.
So yes, I went to concerts.
So let's talk about thisobviously Coldplay.
Now obviously some listeners maynot be Coldplay fans, that's
fair enough.
But you can't deny they put on agood show.
Um, as you know, I dunno ifyou've seen footage, everyone
gets a light up wristband.
Jerry (02:44):
Super common here.
Matt (02:45):
they're kind of, yeah.
I mean, but they invented, theyinvented four Coldplay.
They actually, they weren'tinvented by Coldplay, but the
very first ever night atwristbands were, were a
Coldplay, a guy who was a bigColdplay fan.
He invented it.
The technology set it.
Some Coldplay music sent it toColdplay.
They liked it.
Um, I think in the original demohe did, he, he put a load of dog
(03:06):
collars on about 20 dogs and lethim free at night on a golf
course and let him run aroundwith Coldplay music playing.
Um, Coldplay loved it.
Uh, and then they adopted itabout.
2010 and I think they were likethe third iteration of these
bands.
But there's other companies nowthat do, because I went, when I
went see Lewis Kadi on Tuesday.
Similar, not as good as theColdplay bands.
(03:27):
Uh, but yes, very similartechnology.
So it's kind of just given thenorm now, isn't it?
That you go to a concert, youget a light up band.
Alright, my, I've got draws fullof me.
It always says recycle at theend.
No, no, no, please.
This is coming home with me tonever be used again.
Jerry (03:40):
go to as many concerts as you do, but I was in Puerto
Rico, uh, a couple weeks ago tosee Bad Bunny and everyone
received a, uh, sort of like anecklace with a camera on it
that was lighting up throughoutthe concert.
Matt (03:53):
Okay, so this isn't a real camera you can take photos with,
or
Jerry (03:57):
for the show.
Right.
Similar to the wristband.
So it, you know, it, it, it goeson beat, different colors.
The camera itself is inreference to one of his.
One of his songs.
That's probably the most popularsong that he has out now.
Um, and it was cool.
It
Matt (04:10):
it's on the tip of my tongue, but just, just, just
because it's not there.
What's the song called?
Jerry (04:14):
de I should have, I should have, I
Matt (04:16):
That was it.
I was, I was, that's what I wasabout to say.
Yeah.
Was it that one?
Jerry (04:21):
more photos.
Right.
That, that's essentially the
Matt (04:24):
Is that from the Oasis album?
Jerry (04:25):
from the Oasis album, which is,
Matt (04:27):
Oh, okay.
Jerry (04:28):
correlation between those two.
And that's where it ends.
Matt (04:32):
Okay.
See, so Jerry and I have verydifferent tastes of music.
That's fine.
Um, obviously he always sends methese artists like Bad Bunny Ho
I'm not aware of.
And so I, but I always look'emup and quote albums just to sort
of, so he thinks I've got thisknowledge.
And he's like, oh yeah, that's,I think I always was The second
album was that the collaborationalbum?
Or, and I, I said to him, hisOasis is that, is that we just
(04:55):
did a cover of All Oasis songs,but apparently it's not, which
is a shame.
I think that would've beeninteresting.
Jerry (04:59):
what did you do?
I'll share what I did, uh, priorto the Bad Bunny concert, but
what did you do as a Brit priorto going to the Louis Capaldi
concert or the Oasis concert?
What, what, what are
Matt (05:09):
Okay, so the very.
Jerry (05:10):
to you walking into the stadium looking like,
Matt (05:13):
Yeah.
And that, that, that leads ourtopic today is actually sort of
events.
So that leads nicely into that.
So they're very different.
So Louis Capaldi, uh, uh, I wentwith, with my wife Jen.
Um, we went for a meal.
Uh, I wasn't drinking actually.
I drove, we wanted Louis Capaldiwent home.
Uh, Coldplay.
Very different.
(05:33):
I Coldplay, uh, I, I wasactually, I was, I was meeting
up with Jen's.
Brother's wife, um, she wasrunning late in traffic, so an
hour and a half on my own.
So I went to a bar called theBox Park at Wembley and just
drank heavily for an hour and ahalf on my own, and then went to
(05:53):
see Coldplay, and I carried onthe drinking while I was in
Coldplay.
So I, I, I think I probably hadclose to about 10 pints during
Coldplay.
It was fair.
Yeah, that's how you gotta seeColdplay, isn't it?
Jerry (06:04):
is you missed half the concert'cause you were stuck in
the bathroom taking a piss.
Matt (06:09):
No great bathroom stories.
Not every day you hear a co aColdplay bathroom story.
I have a couple, like, uh, Itook, I took my very first shit
at Wembley the other day.
That was during Coldplay.
Not this one.
This was prior prior time I sawColdplay.
And I did actually think, whenwas the first time someone's
ever taken a shit at a concert?
'cause you just don't do that,do you?
I dunno if you've ever done it.
Jerry (06:27):
That's probably something I wouldn't admit out loud, but
Matt (06:31):
Who's, let's be honest.
Jerry, who's listening?
Yeah.
Who's listening?
Jerry (06:36):
Who's listening exactly.
Matt (06:38):
It's listening.
Um, second one.
Yeah, so I was in the queue forthe toilets on Friday.
Uh, quite large, uh, probablyWembley, always not enough
toilets for the stadium.
And this guy comes up to me, hehad high vis and he went, follow
me.
I didn't even, I didn't evenquestion him.
I followed him.
Me and a couple of guys justfollowed this guy and he started
taking us to the exit and Ithought, oh, okay, this is, it's
(07:01):
not great.
I could see the exit of Wembleyand literally by the exit was a
little toilet door.
Went in there, massive bathroom,no one in there.
It was brilliant.
I kept that to myself.
Jerry (07:09):
open and
Matt (07:10):
Well, when the other.
Jerry (07:10):
care.
Matt (07:12):
Yeah, as people were coming in, they just saw me.
Hey, hey Aiden.
Yeah.
So that was cold.
We're talk about the actualmusic of Coldplay Lewis Kadi.
That's not what we're here forreally?
Is it?
You know, you you wanna knowthat?
Look'em up.
But, uh, yeah, they're myconcerts for the week.
Um, so yeah.
So let's, let's talk, let's talkevents.
So
Jerry (07:32):
I apologize.
Sorry, I'm, I'm, I'm
Matt (07:35):
actually physically pause.
Jerry (07:36):
and she has my child.
Hold on.
Matt (07:40):
Out the first seven minutes or it'll go
Jerry (07:42):
would be
Matt (07:43):
on recording
Jerry (07:43):
that was
Matt (07:44):
that we've done.
Yeah.
Jerry (07:45):
as shit as the first one.
So we were actually
Matt (07:50):
Is that our tagline?
Tagline.
Not as shit as the previousepisode.
Anyway, so.
Jerry (07:58):
you made a really good point before, right?
Uh, where essentially you saidyou went to the pub, You had
some pints and then.
You headed into the stadium.
Very different here, right?
So when you were here for summerslam tailgating, concert
sporting event, that's the thingto do.
Matt (08:17):
That still blows my mind.
That's what you guys do.
I think the reason, there's tworeasons we don't do it.
A we seems drinking and drivingover there is something that you
just don't care for.
Um, also, we just don't have thespace around the stadium.
So,
Jerry (08:30):
We're we're super car-centric
Matt (08:32):
there's a stadium in a, a.
Yeah, so obviously any stadium,especially in London, if there's
space around it, they're gonnabuild something else.
Some other real estate of somesort.
That could be shops, that couldbe restaurants, especially
flats.
'cause flats.
You obviously can build them upand you can get a lot of, a lot
of people in there.
Um, Wembley go back to the, theprevious Wembley, which got
knocked down.
(08:52):
2001 maybe
Jerry (08:53):
right.
Matt (08:54):
that, um.
There was massive car parks.
It's very similar to MetLife,car parks all around it.
You could park there, skip 4, 25years.
Now there's, there's, uh, maybetwo car parks and they're
multi-story.
So, oh, as you know, you can'treally tailgate a multi-story,
but as you say, many peopledon't.
I think there's threeunderground lines going into
Wembley.
Um, people get there by tube.
(09:16):
That's why they had to move.
We had a tube strike the otherday.
So Coldplay or any artists thathad a concert in London, they
just had to cancel'em because ifyou can't get, if tube's the
only way into these venues, youknow, I think it's 90,000,
85,000 go to Wembley.
If you can't get, you can't getany other way there.
So you just have to move.
And Coldplay moved it PostMalone.
They had to cancel theirconcerts just moving to another
(09:36):
date.
So yes, so the tailgate.
So as you say, I went, I kindsaw you last month.
We went to Summer Slam MetLife.
Completely different experience.
I mean, you've got these A,you've got this, it's in the
middle of nowhere.
You've got these massive opencar parks.
People pull up.
It just made you getting out.
Marquees tables, speakersystems, there was DJs setting
up.
It was an amazing experience.
And people you're drinking, Ithink we in sort of three, four
(09:57):
hours before we go in and thenyou go in.
So when you are in there, so.
Some that might be different.
But say it's a football, um, isit mainly football people
tailgate for or is it allsporting events?
Jerry (10:08):
All sporting events, you're gonna see some sail
gating.
Matt (10:10):
So once you're in there, what's the drinking situation
like?
Do you just do all your drinkingbefore and now you're just in
there to watch the sportingevent?
Or are you drinking during thesporting event?
Jerry (10:17):
So you're still drinking, you're, you're still,
Matt (10:19):
I.
Jerry (10:19):
you know, you're, you're getting a proper sized beer.
Right?
I've been to a couple events inthe uk and it's just, I, I the
real concern with the size ofthe beer that you get.
Matt (10:32):
See, see, this is obviously, and you may not know,
you may know, but our listeners,
Jerry (10:36):
Our
Matt (10:36):
listeners,
Jerry (10:37):
two of
Matt (10:38):
yeah, listeners, two of them are wives.
Jerry (10:41):
Yeah, because we're forcing
Matt (10:42):
they, you know that you, because you can't, you're not
allowed to drink alcohol whilewatching football in the uk.
You see?
Are you aware of this rule?
Jerry (10:49):
no.
Matt (10:50):
So, yeah, it came in about 40 years ago.
Uh, they brought in a law that'sillegal to drink alcohol while
you can view the pitch.
So if you've got line of sightto the pitch, you can't drink
alcohol.
So what would happen is youwould go to, let's say you go to
a.
Football event you would go to,obviously to the pub before you
(11:12):
drink, you get to the stadium,you can drink, but you can't
take your drinks to the seat.
So what's different in what Inotice at the American stadiums
from the bar, you can actuallyeven see, you can see the pitch
deal, can't you?
Just, it's just a straight seat.
'cause maybe the seat's a bank,so they go down.
It's different in the uk youcan't actually.
Pretty much a brick wall.
You have to go through a door oror an entrance to then get to
(11:33):
your seat so you can't see thepitch at any point where you got
the alcohol so you can drink atthe bar.
I think they stopped servingjust before kickoff.
And yeah, you can't take anyalcohol again.
Half time after the match youcan drink, but it's just
illegal.
Take any alcohol, see yourseats, and be able to see the
pitch.
Jerry (11:49):
That's very unfortunate.
Matt (11:51):
Let's put you off and see a football match now, isn't it?
Jerry (11:53):
That's, that's, that's outrageous.
I'm assuming folks try to sneakalcohol in or
Matt (12:00):
Uh, do you know what?
I've never actually, no, I'venever seen anyone do it because
there's so many stewards, uh,
Jerry (12:05):
You'll get
Matt (12:06):
in the grounds then standing, watching people and
they're just watching.
You get kicked out, you getbanned.
I remember once I went to afootball match, and I don't
think a guy knew this rule, sohe bought like.
Four or five beers.
He had him in like a carry thingand somehow he must have got
past.
He wasn't, he didn't evenrealize that it was, wasn't a
thing.
He got past, like the stewards,maybe they were looking outta
way and you saw him walking upto his stand with like these
(12:27):
four or five beers.
I've never seen so many stewardsjump this guy as quickly as
possible and literally drag himout
Jerry (12:32):
boxes?
Can't even drink in the
Matt (12:35):
again.
They, they've got, yep.
So they have to, uh, they haveto close a curtain, uh, if
they're serving alcohol or the,the bow in there has to stop
serving alcohol.
Basically, if you can, I thinkit goes down to all
professional.
I think the law is allprofessional tears of football
and while football's on, you'renot allowed to have alcohol and
(12:55):
it won't have actual line ofsight.
If you watch it through a TVscreen, that's fine.
Obviously can you go to a barand watch it?
But if you've got actual line ofsight of the pitch, you cannot
drink alcohol.
Jerry (13:04):
get it because in the US cheerleaders, right, we have
cheerleaders, right?
There's no cheerleaders in theuk, or at least I haven't seen.
No.
Yeah, neither.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We, we have cheerleaders thatare essentially leading the
chance in, uh, in the US but inthe uk it's like a father of two
named Gareth that's been drunksince like 10:00 AM leading the
(13:28):
chance.
So I, I can see why alcoholmight be a problem during the
middle of the game.
Matt (13:36):
And also the, the chance in the US are very positive base
towards the team.
The chance in the UK from Garyand his son in the stands are
more negative to a, the team,the referee.
They're normally, you'd besurprised, they normally, they,
they normally ch negative stufftowards their team more than the
other team.
Yeah.
It's like people pay good moneyto go and completely scream
(13:58):
abuse at their football team.
Jerry (13:59):
Why is that?
Why is it that essentially theBrits during a sporting event
just become stereotypicalAmericans?
Like loud and obnoxious.
Matt (14:10):
I, I think it's more, I think it's more than that.
I think we pretty much say like,hold my beer.
Well, don't hold my beer.
I wanna drink it.
But we literally say, oh, that'scute.
We're like, oh, that's cute.
You, you turn up with a marquee.
Now watch us when there's amajor sport, like a World Cup or
something.
Now watch us.
Jerry (14:24):
therapy for you guys.
'cause composed, everyone'salways relaxed, but suddenly a
sporting event comes on and it'sjust, you let loose.
Matt (14:35):
It's, it's like when you see footage of riots, uh,
basically sometimes you, if Ishowed you footage and you go,
is this, yeah.
If I showed you footage, you go,is this riot or is this just
people preparing for Englandplaying in the World Cup?
You sometimes it's, it's verysimilar, especially we see Brits
of ball.
Jerry (14:52):
or lose cars are getting flipped over.
Matt (14:56):
Yeah, I mean, Paris is pretty bad.
France is pretty bad for that.
I mean, nothing, there's notobvious major.
Someone could win sort of MissFrance and they're gonna,
they're gonna write the city andburn it down.
They just love, they have anyexcuse to burn it down.
They must have really great fireinsurance over in France or
something.
'cause they're always, they'realways the other news.
Paris is on fire again, butyeah.
(15:18):
Yeah.
Great healthcare.
They don't mind.
Um.
Yeah.
It's, it's the, the worst.
It's when we're playing abroadin a cup, like a, the Euros or
the World Cup.
So every two years, the, the,it's not really the Brits, it's
the, it's more the, well, no,the, the English and the
Scottish, you'll see they have areputation as well, but it's the
English have the bad name for,um.
(15:39):
For the, for the hooligans andall that that you see.
And it, it, I've seen somefootage is shocking.
It's, I dunno if it's, it's notso bad now.
Maybe, I don't know, maybe theyjust don't televise it as much
or people have grown up and it'sjust the younger generation
don't do it so much.
But yeah, it's think like, evenclubs would have gangs.
So you'd have, um, each, eachfootball club would actually
have a, an associated gang.
(15:59):
And those would be like, likegangs you would see in America,
these are gangs that would goaround and they would meet up.
They're not really there for thefootball.
They, they'd meet up with theother gang.
They just have a street fire andthat's their, that's their day.
I mean, have you seen the film?
Have you seen the film FootballFactory?
Jerry (16:12):
very familiar with what you're referencing.
It's still mind boggling folksthat aren't even going to watch
the game, they're just, youknow, it's,
Matt (16:20):
Yeah.
Jerry (16:20):
you know, they're, they're coming out of work from
their factory and they're like,all right, I'll see you in two
hours after some beers.
Let's throw some punches andthen I'm gonna go home to my
family.
Matt (16:30):
Yeah.
Watch a game on tv.
Well, no, not on tv.
Can't watch it on tv.
So that's another thing we'llget to, but
Jerry (16:34):
up after the fight.
But
Matt (16:36):
prison, prison.
It is the same, but then youwould get people to go
tailgating, but wouldn't go tothe match after, wouldn't you?
Jerry (16:43):
you do see that it isn't as, it isn't as common, but it
does very much happen becausetailgating is its own event.
As you saw, right.
The, the, the players, uh, the,the, some of the folks from the
concert, or even in the WEsummer slam event that we went
to, right?
There were wrestlers that cameout to the tailgating event just
to meet with the fans.
(17:03):
It's, it's genuinely its ownevent.
You pay for parking, it's like$80 to park.
It's ridiculous.
I better get something out ofit, you know.
Matt (17:11):
I mean, I think it's, yeah, I mean it's similar cost
for parking here, for Wembleyand that, but what I did enjoy
mostly about it is, you know,this is something that you, I
dunno how many tailgate eventsyou've done in your life.
10, 20, 30, 50,
Jerry (17:23):
hundreds every, every
Matt (17:26):
and,
Jerry (17:26):
event,
Matt (17:27):
you and your.
Jerry (17:27):
football game, concerts,
Matt (17:32):
Now many of these games, you've played beer pong at these
tailgate events, haven't you?
Jerry (17:35):
Flip cup.
Yeah.
Matt (17:38):
Yeah, I've rocked up, played one game of beer, beer
pong in my life, kickedeveryone's ass.
That just shows how it, it justshows A, your shit, and B, we
know how to do it.
Jerry (17:49):
weren't drunk enough.
I think that was the issue.
Matt (17:52):
No, that's the thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fair, fair.
I'll give you that.
So events.
Jerry (17:58):
Events.
I gotta ask, what is the foodsituation at these sporting
events?
Matt (18:05):
Overpriced and usually not great
Jerry (18:09):
Agreed.
Probably the same.
Super expensive here, but whatare you guys eating?
Like what's a typical, you'regonna grab a beer, it's
halftime.
What?
What are you, what are you, youknow, sort of taking it down
with,
Matt (18:19):
again.
So what I would do is if we'regoing, most people are gonna go
to some sort of pub before,maybe grab some food before.
The, the food at the stadium,it's all very similar.
It doesn't matter where you'rein the world, they're the same.
You know, you're gonna getburgers, chicken tenders, hot
dogs.
Um, it's gonna be minimum 10, 15pounds for a burger for a meal.
But it's not gonna be the bestfood.
So personally, I'll try and eatbefore I go, like a, where the
(18:43):
spoons, I know you, you'veexperienced weather spoons,
food, you can.
Jerry (18:45):
weatherspoon.
Matt (18:47):
What I like about weather food is you go in there, you can
order round of drinks, maybesome food for the whole table.
Uh, you can pay with a 20 poundnote and you're gonna get at
least 10 pound change from that.
So, which, which is quiteenjoyable.
Um.
Yeah.
And the events.
And the other thing about the,the other thing you might not
know about, actually I'm not afootball, football knowledge,
don't, do not come to thispodcast expecting
Jerry (19:09):
sport
Matt (19:10):
football knowledge'cause it's, it's not made but sport
knowledge.
But the other thing is, so youcan't show football between
three, the three, the 3:00 PMmatches on Saturday.
They're, they're the, they weresort of really the only ones and
they branched out obviously asfootball's got bigger and they
do'em at 12, they're doing five.
But the 3:00 PM one could not betelevised legally in the
country.
Um.
You can find it on othercountries can show it, but, and
(19:33):
the reason is I always thoughtit was'cause people wouldn't go
to the games'cause, but they setout.
But the reason is, is to protectthe lower leagues.
So you think if you are, you'drather be at home three o'clock
watching Liverpool man, UnitedMan City.
So then no one's going to theother clubs like the, the
second, the third division, thegrassroots clubs.
No one's going to watch thosematches'cause it's not, these
(19:54):
matches aren't on TV.
Jerry (19:55):
diehard.
Matt (19:58):
They're brilliant.
You've got no fans.
I love that guy.
Jerry (20:02):
I mean, tho those, those fans in the lower leagues, I
mean.
They're, they live and die bytheir local neighborhood team or
whatever that is,
Matt (20:13):
yeah.
See that's the thing.
So you've got.
You've got these, you've got ateam like Reham, which are
really just made up of thediehard fans now.
And now these have been shovedinto the limelight.
These are now a championshipteam.
They're the second divisionteam, so they're playing with,
with the big boys, but they'renot used to that.
Obviously.
Now they've attracted two, threetimes fold fan base'cause
they're a global brand.
But yeah, it's, it's a verydifferent thing.
(20:34):
When you go to a lower league,could you, there normally stands
sometimes, so you're still not,you're not sitting, it's.
It's a different experience, butyeah.
So it's protect those.
And I know you have a similarthing in America, which is maybe
a better idea.
You're not allowed to, now,correct me if I'm wrong, you
can't play professional footballon a Friday, is that correct?
Jerry (20:53):
Well, there's certain days that we have professional
football.
It's primarily Sunday, one gameon Monday.
Most games are on Sunday, onegame on Monday.
And then just recently, a coupleyears ago, they added one.
Game on Thursdays, but Sunday isthe primary football Sunday is
what we live by.
Matt (21:09):
And Friday's college football.
Is that correct?
Jerry (21:11):
Saturdays, Fridays,
Matt (21:13):
Yeah.
So, so yeah.
So again, it protects them.
So there's always gonna beattracting those crowds'cause
they're not going to an NFL gamethat night.
So it's a similar idea.
You've gotta protect thegrassroots.
Uh, I suppose while we're on thesubject of events, concerts,
festivals, now I have been to afestival in the us.
Granted it was not.
(21:35):
It was called when we wereyoung.
Uh, it was more of a, in aconcrete car park with two
stages.
But I still feel that the Britsin the uk they do festivals
better than, than the us.
I mean, I, I debate this withme, but obviously I think the
only one I know of really isCoachella.
I'm not sure what another, Idunno what other large festivals
(21:56):
are.
There's probably loads andpeople would argue there's
probably hundreds in America,but they're globally branded
that make their way over here.
I think.
Was it Burning Man as well?
Jerry (22:04):
It's the, the festival game has changed in the US where
it's essentially glamping.
Matt (22:11):
Yeah.
See that's the thing.
It's like Coachella, the wayit's portrayed over here, it's a
very Instagram.
Influencer based festival.
You go there, you go there forthe likes.
Um, where Glastonbury, you gothere'cause you wanna stink a
piss for five days.
They're very different sort of
Jerry (22:28):
it.
Matt (22:29):
feels, aren't they?
Like Glastonbury, you, you can'tshower in there.
There are some showers butthere're very limited.
It's, there's a few, um.
You can take your own alcoholin, you can take it around with
you all day, which is the onlyfestival I know that can do
that.
So it people, you see peopledrag in a bathtub of, of alcohol
around on a trolley and that's'cause they can just, they're
not gonna buy alcohol there.
(22:50):
How they make money sellingalcohol at Bury.
I dunno.
I, I, I actually had a backpackfull of it every day.
Jerry (22:56):
that's, you can't bring any outside food or drinks.
It's$18 for a water.
It's ridiculous.
Matt (23:04):
Yeah.
I mean, you can take.
A lot of festivals you can takeoutside food and drink in just
can't be alcohol.
Glasbury, as I say, Glasbury isthe only one in, in the country
that I'm aware of that let youtake alcohol into the festival.
Jerry (23:15):
I.
Matt (23:16):
Um, obviously people will try and sneak it in.
I've done it myself.
My my preferred way is cheaper.
Pringles, take a couple ofcrisps out, put a bottle of
vodka in Pringles on top.
Hey, no one's gonna, no, andyou've got some Pringles as well
'cause you know you're gonna gethungry as you're drinking that
vodka.
Jerry (23:30):
to share your most recent festival story?
Matt (23:33):
Why not?
So the, it wasn't the lastfestival I went to actually, but
a recent festival I went to thisyear, either white festival, one
of the top five biggestfestivals in the country,
probably.
Um, there was a bar and it washot.
So I was drinking alcoholthroughout the day.
Now these are.
I'm not a medical expert, butprobably not advised, uh, as the
(23:53):
night got on, woke goodbye tothe, the wife and kids, they
went to bed.
I thought, okay, now it's, it'ssafe to drink.
Now it's time to party.
So, so at this point, vodkaswere coming out.
Uh, watch some good bands.
So watch this script.
I remember them.
I was there for Stereophonics.
That's what I wanted to see.
Apparently they played, I don'tremember, tried to look back at
the footage on my phone the nextday, just the floor.
(24:15):
Um, anyway, at some pointbetween Stereophonics and.
The next band I wanted to see,I, this is only, this has only
recaps me afterwards by people Ilent on some crowd control
barriers, but decide to fall andbring the crowd control barriers
down with me.
So, so at this point now I'mentangled on the floor with
barriers on top of me.
I'm on top of barriers and I'mtrying to get up.
(24:37):
Security are trying to help meup.
They help me up and I spilled mydrink over them.
But I'm more surprised I didn'tspill my drink as I went down.
How I managed to keep that drinkin its glass.
That blows me.
But then I got up, just spill mydrink over security and yet they
still haven't thrown me out ofthe thing.
They just,
Jerry (24:54):
of their concerns that
Matt (24:58):
yeah.
Well, I mean,
Jerry (24:58):
Yeah.
Matt (24:59):
they had to rebuild a load of crowd control barriers.
They were pretty busy afterthat, so, so anyway, I go home
the next day when I wake up,I'm, I'm covered in bruises and
cuts and I.
For life.
Me think why, and then I gettold by a few people, it's
exactly what happened.
So the rule is here, you don'tdrink at a festival.
But no, that's not the rulehere.
(25:20):
What is the rule?
What do we do?
Please help me.
Yeah.
Jerry (25:23):
I mean, listen, I, I think, I mean, binge, binge
drinking in a general sense ishuge in the uk, uh, but at
concerts and sporting events,you guys really take it to
another level.
It's a good time.
It's a good
Matt (25:36):
Yeah.
I mean.
Next, my next concert will benext weekend.
Gonna see Oasis.
Um.
I've made sure that I've, I'veseen sober, but now next time is
a drinking day.
So I've, this is, this is a truestory now it's a concert in the
evening, but I've had to thentell, I've gotta take my
(25:57):
daughter to a party.
But I've had to say that I'vegot to leave the party at two.
'cause I'm going to a concertthat night.
That's because I need to be inLondon to start drinking at
three o'clock before the concertstarts.
So.
Yeah, so that's the, therecording, the podcast recording
after that, concert's gonna beinteresting.
I mean, I won't remember it, butit'd be interesting
Jerry (26:15):
it's gonna be beautiful.
That's, that's, that's the stuffthe podcasts are made of
Matt (26:21):
Yeah.
Stories that you shouldn't betelling to anyone, but yet
Jerry (26:24):
exactly.
Matt (26:25):
to everyone.
Jerry (26:25):
My apologies to any future employers that are
watching this.
I.
Matt (26:30):
Yeah.
I mean.
Yeah, I, I mean, I do, I doagree that you, there's some
stuff you shouldn't post online'cause employees can watch, but,
you know,
Jerry (26:42):
I mean, what
Matt (26:43):
I, I don't hide that, but Yeah.
Yeah.
And I, you can't get drunk at aconcert.
What can you do?
I mean, I've probably been to, Idon't know, a hundred plus
concerts and a handful of themwere sober.
Jerry (26:58):
Oh, of course.
Listen, it enhances theexperience, right?
There's no way around it
Matt (27:03):
Well, no, it, no.
If anything it, it, it doesn't,it actually dos down the
experience.
'cause the whole perception, thesound and all that is, you know,
you're not gonna hear it aswell, you're not gonna remember
it.
So, I've actually cons, I've,I've been too sober.
I've actually said, oh, that'sone, probably one of the best
concerts I've been through in mylife.
'cause you know, the experience,I remember it, the sound was,
you can really immerse yourself.
(27:24):
But I, I hear what you'resaying.
It's, you don't have to go.
Sometimes you have to go andhave a drink.
It's what it's like.
Same as going to a footballmatch, you know, can you imagine
going to a football match or anysporting event and not drinking?
Jerry (27:34):
it's impossible.
Matt (27:35):
I mean, you couldn't go watch a chill Netflix without a
drink, could you?
So let alone going to a sportingevent.
Jerry (27:40):
Not at all.
Matt (27:42):
Anyway, I think we, uh,
Jerry (27:43):
here mad.
Matt (27:43):
I think we've covered sport.
I think we, I think we've, we'vepretty much covered every single
event that would ever happen inthe UK and us.
I think we've summed that up ina good 20 minutes.
There.
There's nothing we've missed.
Um,
Jerry (27:54):
the
Matt (27:54):
again, it's not probably.
Jerry (27:56):
really have is I would like a bit more energy around,
the national anthem.
Here we have just, you know, thehottest or one of the a, a major
r and b artist singing thenational Anthem fireworks.
There's fighter jets, a B12bombers flying over the stadium
(28:17):
and in the UK it's like 30seconds of God save the king.
Very monotone.
are yelling.
It's, it's a, it's a hugedifference.
Matt (28:28):
I mean, I'm not sure that's, it's not really a
national pride.
I think you just have, you havea lot of pride in your national
anthem, don't you?
You're like, you know, that'slike your top song that you like
to, to play.
It's.
It's, I think there's, peopleare very torn.
Jerry (28:39):
for 2025.
Don't get me wrong.
Matt (28:43):
Your Spotify wrapped is not gonna have the, uh, the
National Anthem star SpangledBanners not number one on
Spotify wrapped.
What do you mean?
Yeah, no, I do agree that I, I,I've, I've been to US sport
events and it's, they alwayshave, yeah.
A top service.
They do.
They started to do that here.
I've been to some, and they'vehad, I wouldn't say it's been a
top celebrity, but they've had afamous person sing their anthem.
But again, it's not really, andwe don't do it all sporting
(29:05):
events.
So would you do it every, isevery sporting event in the us
Do you have the anthem?
Jerry (29:10):
Pretty much, yeah, absolutely.
Matt (29:13):
Yeah.
See, we would have it for, uh,like England would play in, in a
competition, but if you just goto like a.
Like a Premier League game.
We wouldn't have the Nashanthem.
That's just, just, just get on,it's three o'clock, let's go.
We've got drink, we've gotdrinking to do.
We can't, don't forget, we can'tdrink.
At this point.
We're sitting down.
Jerry, we were, let's get thisover and done with.
(29:36):
Come on, let's get this.
Hurry the fuck up.
I want a beer.
Okay, so
Jerry (29:41):
are
Matt (29:41):
that's why, right.
Jerry (29:43):
even local to me, where at 7:00 PM every day they play
the national anthem and peoplestop drinking and it's very
strange.
Matt (29:51):
Yeah, that's different experience.
Jerry (29:54):
Yeah.
We'll, we'll chat more aboutthat on
Matt (29:56):
Okay.
Well, yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, okay.
Well till next week, uh, let's,let's see.
We can, let's see.
We can, as you say, uh, let'srecap.
So we had a strong seven minutesand then it went downhill.
Jerry (30:09):
Well, we, we still
Matt (30:10):
Yeah.
Jerry (30:11):
um,
Matt (30:11):
Let's see if.
Jerry (30:11):
still have that seven minutes, right?
We should.
Matt (30:16):
Okay.
If you're choosing this podcastin, it's 22 minutes long, and it
starts off by saying we've lostseven minutes, the answer's no.
Okay.
So let's see.
If this podcast is just comingup to 30 minutes, then you know
that you've got the full, you'vegot the full, the full pleasure.
Yeah.
Okay, well, I'll speak to younext week.
(30:37):
Let's see if we can get a good10 minutes of, uh, quality
content before it tails off.
Jerry (30:41):
to the Atlantic Exchange.
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