November 4, 2025 • 31 mins
Travel Mishaps and Misadventures: Why Paying €50 for Sand Might Not Be a Good Idea!
In this uproarious episode, our hosts dive into their unique travel experiences, talking everything from frustrating family vacations to the hilarity of cultural differences in holiday traditions. Expect laughs as they discuss the embarrassment of clapping when a plane lands, the pitfalls of all-inclusive buffets, and why one host almost paid €50 for a tiny bottle of sand! Whether you're a world traveler or a weekender, this episode is packed with relatable anecdotes and laugh-out-loud moments. Tune in for a comedic take on vacations, staycations, and everything in-between!
00:00 Introduction and Banter
00:48 Episode Overview and Audience Discussion
02:59 Live Podcast Announcement
04:18 Vacation Talk: Dubai and Travel Preferences
05:58 Comparing British and American Holidays
13:12 Work Culture Differences on Vacation
15:24 Vacation Phone Habits
16:15 Returning to Work After Vacation
17:00 Vacation Attire and Stereotypes
18:52 Buffet Strategies on Vacation
20:29 Clapping on Planes
22:55 Domestic Holidays and Staycations
26:55 Traveling with Children
28:11 Final Thoughts on Vacations
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Matt (00:07):
Okay.
Your, uh, your video qualityteam's a bit low today, but as
long as your audio's good, Idon't care.
Jerry (00:13):
Yeah.
I mean, you, you look fine.
Matt (00:15):
I look fine.
I always look fine, but youlook, you look like you're using
a Nokia as your workout, but I'mnot sure what.
Jerry (00:22):
over here.
Matt (00:24):
Yeah, but it doesn't matter.
Let's just start.
Hi.
Hi everyone.
Welcome to today's episode.
Um, I dunno what episode.
It's quite good that we, I'm,I'm losing count of episodes,
which is good, but it means I'vejust got a shitty memory'cause
we're not that far into itreally?
Are we?
Jerry (00:39):
two things.
We haven't quit and we don'thave much going on in our lives.
Matt (00:44):
Yeah, it's, it's mainly the, the, the latter, isn't it?
We've got, we've got nothinggoing on.
Um, anyway, let's, uh, itworked.
I think it worked well lastweek, so let's try it again.
Let's see what's coming up oftoday's show
Jerry (00:56):
That's right.
Matt (00:57):
we are not big in Europe.
Jerry (00:58):
know better.
Matt (00:59):
Yeah.
Jerry (01:01):
Hopefully.
Matt (01:02):
But welcome South America.
Jerry (01:03):
No one in northern England has heard any of these
podcasts.
Matt (01:07):
Let's be honest.
They wouldn't know how.
what is your thoughts on peoplethat clap when the plane lands?
So it's kind of, they're theleast likely people at that very
point in time to be in a planecrash.
But I've never wanted theirpeople to be in a plane crash
more.
Well, that all sounds excitingor it sounds, shit we don't, as
we said, we don't know at thispoint.
Um, it could be like the worst.
(01:28):
We could be putting the worstparts of the show in there,
couldn't we?
It could just be you cryingbecause you know, your wife
doesn't talk to you anymore.
I dunno, it could be.
Let's see how this, it's likeforeshadowing, isn't it Really
more than, more than, uh, what'scoming up.
Um, so just in that little whyyou were having that little, uh,
interlude, we were justdiscussing of our viewership,
(01:52):
uh, and, and we said that we, Ithink last time we spoke, we
had, uh, was it, we said that wehad a lot of views in Asia.
Jerry (01:59):
We did
Matt (01:59):
Um,
Jerry (02:00):
in Asia.
Yeah.
Matt (02:02):
okay, so.
So someone listened to it.
So we've had some Spotifyviewers, uh, but I believe you,
you, you are part of the Spotifyfigures.
Uh,
Jerry (02:15):
I'm, I'm, I'm pumping those numbers up maybe.
Matt (02:18):
yeah.
I'm trying to, there wassomewhere I could find out
where, oh, locations.
Here we go.
Okay, so we, no, we've got aSouth America.
Hello.
Welcome South America.
Welcome to the party.
Jerry (02:34):
America.
Matt (02:34):
Yeah.
Wow.
I, I, do, you know, if, if Ijust go to our stats page, we
are now disappointing threedifferent continents.
Jerry (02:44):
God is good.
Matt (02:45):
Yeah.
And none of them are Europe atthe moment.
We are,
Jerry (02:49):
They, they
Matt (02:49):
we are not big in Europe.
Jerry (02:50):
know better.
Matt (02:51):
Yeah.
Jerry (02:53):
Hopefully.
Matt (02:54):
But welcome South America.
Jerry (02:55):
No one in northern England has heard any of these
podcasts.
Matt (02:59):
Let's be honest.
They wouldn't know how.
Jerry (03:02):
Oh God bless them.
Matt (03:04):
Uh,
Jerry (03:05):
Yeah.
Matt (03:06):
um, but yeah, there's some good news that actually, uh, we
can announce that coming in acouple of weeks.
We actually have a live podcastcoming up
Jerry (03:13):
Very exciting in, uh, in the
Matt (03:15):
when I say Yeah.
Of Liverpool.
Yeah.
So,
Jerry (03:20):
Northern
Matt (03:20):
get your tickets now.
Yeah, so I'd say get yourtickets now.
But you can't, it's not thatlive.
It's as in we'll be doing it inperson,
Jerry (03:28):
right.
Matt (03:28):
but uh, what I might do is give out the location so people
can come and, uh, stone you todeath.
It'll make great content, won'tit?
Jerry (03:36):
really would, it really, it would ramp those figures up,
wouldn't it?
Matt (03:39):
Yeah, yeah.
It will get us those Europefigures that we've been longing
for.
Jerry (03:43):
think we're that desperate yet where we need that
level of content, but never saynever.
Matt (03:48):
No, we're not gonna do a, um, uh.
I can't remember his name.
He is the guy that doeswrestling.
Now, the, the two brothers, onebecame a boxer, one became a
wrestler, and he, he,
Jerry (04:00):
Paul
Matt (04:00):
yeah.
Logan Paul.
Yeah.
So Logan Paul, when he had somefootage of, uh, someone that
died in his, in one of his videocast, we're not that that level
yet, but.
Jerry (04:09):
But you know, again, never say never.
He seems to be doing
Matt (04:12):
Next year,
Jerry (04:12):
Yeah,
Matt (04:13):
I think, I think January, January we'll have a bit of
slum.
So if we kill you in a livepodcast, maybe I'll become a
wrestler.
Jerry (04:18):
there you
Matt (04:19):
that's, that's the plan.
Yeah.
Um, so, so obviously we, weweren't going to the subject
just yet.
I know we're, we're pushed fortime, but obviously I haven't
really spoke to you'cause I'vebeen, I was on vacation last
week in, uh, I went to Dubai.
So we, obviously our podcastcame out, but that was
prerecorded, like all ourpodcasts.
Um, so when you rang meyesterday, I was like, don't
(04:39):
talk to me.
This, you know, I don't wannaspeak to you.
I wanna, I wanna build up ourconversation because we might
have some, we might actuallyhave some content if we don't
speak to each other for, uh, fora week.
But yeah, it's,
Jerry (04:49):
still
Matt (04:49):
what are we in, we're in four, four minutes in and I've
run out things to say to you.
Jerry (04:54):
exactly.
How was Dubai and who did you gowith?
What?
What did you do there?
Matt (04:59):
So Dubai is actually a great segue where we're getting
really good, we're gettingprofessional now.
So it is a great segue into thisweek's conversation, which is
about vacations and travel.
Um,'cause obviously they're verydifferent.
So, uh, I think we'll just jumpin.
We'll jump in.
So,'cause this kind of comesacross or a standard, uh,
holiday for a Brit, but um,obviously not to Dubai.
(05:24):
But yeah, I went with thefamily.
Um, it's very good.
We stayed in a result, but I'lllead into, so a standard, let's
go.
For the average summer holidayfor a Brit is normally, could be
anywhere, but normally, let'ssay to a European beach result,
all inclusive.
They sit by the result for aweek or two, uh, might venture
(05:46):
out some trips, maybe they mightset some excursions.
But really for that two weeksyou'll sit on that same sun
lounger.
'cause you're getting up at sixo'clock putting your towel down
on that sun lounger.
Jerry (05:54):
I
Matt (05:55):
fight to get those sun loungers.
I, I'm gonna say like, is, isthat the thing?
You get where you go when you goon holiday.
Where would you go on yoursummer holiday?
Jerry (06:04):
Right, right.
So I, I, I want to, you know,preface this by saying very
different from the Brits, right?
It's like I just looked up thefigures.
Now, 86% of Brits havepassports.
50% of Americans or lesspassports, right?
Also, the US is huge.
So you've tr you're quite welltraveled within the US There's a
(06:25):
lot of Americans that just don'tleave the us, which I find
strange, but.
It's big enough where you canpretty much get a little bit of
everything.
though, the Caribbean, Mexico isnormally your go-to for a quick
holiday, let's say a week or so.
Matt (06:40):
And what's the clientele like on these?
Do you have, and I'll get to itdoesn't matter.
I could go to the remote, remoteremotest island.
Say they build Hilton, build anall inclusive resort
Jerry (06:52):
Right.
Matt (06:53):
on the Farrow Islands or somewhere completely remote
where I'm gonna go there.
But I'm gonna see a northernperson there.
Any all inclusive holiday I goto.
There's someone from the northof England that, I dunno how
they get there.
Jerry (07:04):
Yeah, yeah,
Matt (07:05):
where these planes are coming in from because I
normally, some, some of theseplaces just fly from Heathrow
and, and the big cities.
But yeah, there's always gonnabe a northern person.
You'd be sitting around the pooland I'd hear that northern
accent.
So do you have these sort ofguaranteed things you're gonna
see on these Caribbean holidays?
And firstly, can you just sayit's, it's Caribbean.
Can you just say it correctlyfor me please?
Jerry (07:26):
Uh, Caribbean, of course.
Yes.
Um, yeah, no, yeah.
So you're gonna see people fromeverywhere, right?
Um, you'll definitely findsomeone from the New York metro
area, so that's guaranteed,right?
We're probably the biggesttravelers.
a lot of Canadians love going tothe Caribbean as well, so you're
definitely gonna see Canadians.
Canadians are chill though, soour Northerners Canadians are,
(07:48):
are a lot more.
Composed than, uh, let's say ana Northerner from the uk
Matt (07:55):
I have jobs for a start.
Jerry (07:57):
to be fair, to be fair.
I, I did recently hear that in
Matt (08:00):
Canadians are mostly unemployed.
Is that what you're trying tosay?
Jerry (08:03):
I'm not.
I will say, uh, from myunderstanding, uh, folks in
Manny, they're known as theworker bees and they get bee
tattoos, if I'm not mistaken.
Matt (08:13):
This is not a fact I've ever heard of.
Um.
Jerry (08:16):
heard this more than once, so I, I gotta, I gotta put
some respect on, uh, on thefolks from Manchester Liver
Pool.
Who cares?
But, you know,
Matt (08:24):
Okay.
Yeah, I maybe, maybe fact checkthat.
I dunno if that's true or not.
I've never heard of the'causethey,
Jerry (08:31):
we should go into this Northern English, but.
Matt (08:34):
yeah, but I mean, I've never heard of anyone going, oh,
I've got a job.
I'm a worker.
Well, who else works?
Bees.
I'm gonna get a tattoo of a bee.
Do you know what I mean?
Jerry (08:44):
No dude.
It's real.
It's real.
Definitely look.
Matt (08:47):
Um, okay.
All right.
We're moving on from that.
Um, okay, so, so yeah.
So, uh, do you tend to go for anall-inclusive result when you go
away?
Jerry (08:56):
Uh, not all the time.
So again, I think the shorterthe vacation, um, we, we'll do
a, uh, an all-inclusive'causeyou get, you get kind of tired
of it.
It's, it's really all the
Matt (09:05):
It's the same stuff every day, isn't it?
Yeah.
Jerry (09:07):
So if, you know, after four days, maybe even three,
you're like, all right, I wannado something else.
also travel here is consuming.
Right.
Getting to the, to the Caribbeanmight be four or five hours.
Right.
Getting to California, six hoursfrom, from, from the east coast.
Um.
(09:27):
So you, you probably tend to dosomething that has more a la
carte options going to Europe,for example, you, you, you're
gonna go to just more of aboutique hotel probably than you
would in all inclusive location.
You know, I feel like in Europeyou can get everywhere
Matt (09:40):
in, as in an American would go to a boutique hotel.
See, that's, I think what'sdifferent if, if you were going
to Europe, you are gonna go tocity breaks, aren't you?
Where I think when Europeans,when the Brits go on their
European holidays, that's morebeach holidays.
Jerry (09:55):
Right, 100%.
Matt (09:56):
we're going different.
So I'm not saying we don't dothe cities, but I, I find a lot
of my friends that do the citybreaks are people that are not
originally from the uk andthey've moved here and they go,
oh, I want to go and see Madrid.
I want to go and see Barcelona.
I wanna go to Frankfurt.
And I think, I've never been toany of these cities.
I could maybe not point to themon a map.
So
Jerry (10:14):
Right.
Matt (10:15):
very rare and I'm speaking for the entire nation here.
So it's, it's, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I fact checked it.
I've done my check of how manyBrits have been to major
European cities.
It is fine.
I mean, we voted to get out ofEurope, so I pretty much think
I'm, I can say, I'm not saying Idid, but I'm saying, you know,
as a whole we voted to leaveEurope, so
Jerry (10:34):
I'm not a.
Matt (10:34):
Yeah.
Not a racist.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jerry (10:40):
Again,
Matt (10:41):
um.
Jerry (10:41):
England.
Um, I, I would, um, no, I, Iwould, I would agree with you.
And also even when we go to, um,we, we love beach clubs.
Just all over Europe, so southof France, uh, the Amalfi Coast,
Spain as well.
Fantastic beach clubs.
But we normally add a city tothe stop.
(11:02):
So we might do Rome, Naples forthree days, and then the Amalfi
Coast, Paris for three, fourdays.
Then we go to the south ofFrance.
We don't just go straight to thebeach,
Matt (11:13):
Yeah, I suppose we're looking at different angles.
You are thinking it'ssightseeing, you are, this is
Jerry (11:17):
correct.
Matt (11:17):
territory.
You wanna go and view it wherewe are thinking we just wanna
get somewhere and lay down andget drunk for two weeks.
Yeah.
I say two weeks, it's a week.
The two week holidays.
Jerry (11:26):
holiday vacation.
The Americans go on trips,
Matt (11:30):
Yeah.
And then, uh, I would say howlong would do a vacation be?
But if you were going, so if youwere going to Mexico for the
summer, how long would you gofor a week?
Couple of days.
Jerry (11:41):
maybe
Matt (11:41):
Two weeks.
Jerry (11:42):
Yeah.
Historically we don't, we don'treally travel out for too many
days.
Matt (11:47):
Yeah.
So we do, we do the sort of theweek, but like we'd go for a
week, like, and maybe that's'cause it comes from the sort of
package deals would be a week.
So you go for the week or twoweeks?
The two weeks.
Very rare.
I, I don't see many people nowgo for the two weeks thing.
I think it's just more sort ofcost of living and,
Jerry (12:02):
Yeah.
Matt (12:03):
people are busier, but, um, but even in this world
where.
You can book your flightsseparately and all that, and you
can book it.
I could go on a Monday, comeback on a Friday.
People still just tenderly gofor a week.
It's just, it's like industrial,it's like built into us now
that, you know, we'll goSaturday to Saturday.
I mean, I, I, I did eight daysonly because I lost a day
(12:23):
traveling.
So I thought, well, okay, wellI'll just add an extra day on.
And then come back.
So I had seven days on holiday.
Jerry (12:29):
How are
Matt (12:30):
the thing we called it holiday, you called it vacation.
And when I say to, and I've hadthis, when I've spoken to
American friends and said, oh,I've just got back from the
holiday.
And they're like, there was noholiday this weekend.
I was like, I mean, yes, butsurely you understand.
Sure.
I know that's not what you callit, but you know, I'm not, so
when you're saying I'll just getup on the sidewalk, I'm not
thinking.
(12:51):
What the, what the hell is asidewalk?
What is he talking about?
You know, I, I understandbecause I'm a functioning human
being
Jerry (12:57):
yes.
Matt (12:58):
can understand.
Jerry (12:59):
clues.
Matt (13:01):
Yes, yes.
Jerry (13:01):
Yeah.
Yeah.
You've had a
Matt (13:03):
So that's
Jerry (13:04):
before.
Matt (13:06):
exactly from another country.
So I understand.
Yeah,
Jerry (13:10):
Yeah.
No,
Matt (13:10):
I understand that.
What you call.
Jerry (13:12):
that's a big issue with Americans, right?
Just in, in a, in a regularsense, Prairie Beach.
But I gotta ask around work.
do you tell your job when you'regoing on holiday?
Are you available?
Are you not available?
Matt (13:25):
Fuck you all see you in two weeks.
I've only gone for a week.
Um, no, no.
I, I'm not available.
It's my out of office goes on.
I, I turn off my outlook andeverything so no one can contact
me for a week.
It's'cause this is my time.
They're not paying for me forit.
So, I mean, any problems they'vegot that's with them and God, I,
I see it.
Jerry (13:46):
How about if they don't believe in God, Matt,
Matt (13:48):
Uh, well then that's, then, then they're screwed.
So
Jerry (13:52):
They're in
Matt (13:52):
yeah.
They're in trouble.
Yeah.
Jerry (13:54):
um, so, so you just came back.
I'm traveling today.
I'm headed to DominicanRepublic, uh, for a wedding.
My out of office is not on, soI'm completely available.
I've told my entire team, youcan text me, you can teams me,
email me, call me on WhatsApp.
If you can't get me on service,I'll have WhatsApp available.
(14:14):
So that is a huge difference.
We are 100% available all thetime.
Matt (14:20):
Is it because this come stemming from issues where you
just want to be liked.
Jerry (14:25):
Uh, I don't know.
I think it's just culturally,it's,
Matt (14:29):
Is that, and is that, is that because,
Jerry (14:31):
ladder, my, my bosses were always available.
Matt (14:35):
but is that because you are, you are quite high up your
ladder?
You have to, but if I was, uh,if you were lower down the
ladder, would you have expectedThis is my two weeks.
See you later.
Jerry (14:45):
Perhaps, uh, even, even when I was just, you know, your,
your lowly analyst, I wasprobably still available.
Matt (14:52):
So is it frowned upon to put you out of office on then?
Jerry (14:55):
Uh, one says it out loud.
Matt (14:58):
Okay.
Jerry (14:58):
an unspoken
Matt (14:59):
So if, if, and if you did put your out of office on, would
someone mention it to you whenyou got back?
Jerry (15:04):
They wouldn't mention it, but it's like.
A snide here and there.
Matt (15:09):
Okay.
Yeah, that's a different, that'sdefinitely a different way of
working.
Jerry (15:13):
Yeah.
Matt (15:13):
But you work with, you have offices in different
countries, so, but they, theywork through their cultural.
I suppose different, differentemploy we've done that.
If you, and you would like to goback to our, go back to our
employment episode, a littlespin back to that if you wanna
hear about how employment worksin different countries.
But um, yeah, I suppose they goto their culture, didn't they?
But that's very interesting.
I didn't know that.
So are you,
Jerry (15:34):
and they're very relaxed when it comes to vacations.
Matt (15:37):
so how often will you be checking your phone when you're
on vacation?
Like your emails?
So.
Jerry (15:44):
Once an hour probably
Matt (15:47):
Okay.
Jerry (15:48):
my
Matt (15:48):
annoying.
Jerry (15:48):
to be fair, my notifications won't be off.
I'll
Matt (15:53):
Okay.
Jerry (15:53):
notifications
Matt (15:54):
I, I did that.
I, I turned off, I turned offnotifications.
I think one day I went in andchecked my email just'cause I
thought it's been a couple ofdays.
Check that, you know, it'smainly check.
I haven't had an email from HRsaying they found something and
I'm fired.
That's all I need to check.
You know, it's, it's, it's beena long time.
People do some investigating,you know, around my computer and
all that while I'm not there.
I thought I better just check.
(16:14):
I've still got a job to comeback to.
That's all I worried about.
Anything else.
Shit, you know, that shit freakwith that.
Okay.
So, so you go away out of officeon, off, um, different period of
time when you get back.
So it's first day back in theoffice.
Are you just straight back in itat nine o'clock like nothing's
happened or do you need a goodday to get back into it?
Jerry (16:37):
Yeah, so I, I, I'd like to have a good day to get back
into it, so I'm still working,just working from home.
I won't go into the office thenext day just so we can sort of
Matt (16:45):
See, I.
I think my first day back in theoffice, don't ask me to do
anything.
That's really me walking aroundtelling people about my holiday.
I,
Jerry (16:54):
Right.
Matt (16:54):
I'm not planning on getting any work done in that
time.
I'll brag at that point, justsaying, uh, the same things
like, you know, oh, not, you'renot used to this weather.
Jerry (17:02):
Right.
I I
Matt (17:04):
Oh, I'd be having buffet lunch about this time.
Jerry (17:07):
in terms of attire you're, um, as you're
vacationing or on holiday, hasthere ever been a point, and,
and obviously there arestereotypes that Americans have
of Europeans, has there everbeen a point, Matt, in your life
where you wore a Speedo on thebeach?
Matt (17:22):
I don't believe so.
Jerry (17:25):
EE the fact that there's even the possibility that you
did,
Matt (17:29):
Yeah.
I, I have to, well, that's'causeI know I, that's because that's
'cause I know I own a Speedo,but if,
Jerry (17:37):
what led you to
Matt (17:38):
have I worn it?
I've never worn it on holiday.
I've never worn it on a holiday.
But I'm just trying to think.
I didn't actually rememberseeing many Speedos on holiday.
Jerry (17:47):
where?
Where
Matt (17:49):
is a holiday that when I came to visit you on holiday,
but you were asleep.
Jerry (17:53):
the local bathhouse?
Matt (17:55):
Yeah.
Um, I don't recall actuallyseeing any Speedos when I was on
the holiday or being on holiday,so I think it's a myth.
Um, like there's always thatmyth that Europeans have a lot
of nudist beaches.
Jerry (18:06):
Yeah.
Matt (18:08):
again, again, not true.
I think the only time I've comeacross a nudist beach, I was on
a holiday when I was, we werecanoeing around different
islands of Croatia.
You know, sometimes we'd be acanoe in good couple of hours to
get to the next island.
Then a ship would bring all ourbaggage to the next one.
And with tides and all that, youcan't always decide where you're
gonna land.
And the guy said, look, we'regonna land on a nudist beach.
(18:30):
So I was getting a bit excitedby this.
But all, all that happened wasthere was a angry 6-year-old
naked German man standing upshouting at us because we just
landed 12 canoes on the beach.
And it just with his tod justflapping about in the sun.
And that's must my only exposureto a, uh, new speech.
It wasn't that exciting.
Probably do it again, but it'snot, that's it.
(18:53):
So
Jerry (18:54):
Yeah,
Matt (18:54):
it's not what people say.
Jerry (18:56):
have many here.
We have a couple, but it's veryrare,
Matt (18:59):
Um, just going back to, so these all inclusives and I take
it, they're the same deal,obviously they are.
But uh, where you have like thebuffet, lunch, dinner, breakfast
things, what's your attitude ona plate?
Now?
Normally on these things you canget 10 different cuisines from
around the world at other buffet'cause they like to cater for
everyone.
Do you make a meal or do youjust have a little bit of
(19:20):
everything on your plate?
Jerry (19:21):
That is a good question.
So now that I'm older, I'm anold man.
I, uh, I actually have a verylight breakfast.
I, I find when I have a veryheavy breakfast, the rest of the
day kind of goes to shit.
Um, so I'll probably just havesomething different every day,
but just a, a small amount.
Um, also in your all inclusives,do you have formal sit down
(19:46):
restaurants available that youcan make reservations for?
Matt (19:49):
Yes.
It depends on the, some of themthey allow you to do that and
it's just first come, first,serve some, allow.
You allowed to go to one a week.
The one I just went to, youcould go there to, but you had
to pay extra
Jerry (20:01):
Okay.
Matt (20:01):
'cause we were off traveling to different places.
We're like, well, no, we're eatat those restaurants when we're
out in Dubai, et cetera.
Different restaurants, so.
I just literally, when I was inthe hotel, did the buffet
restaurant and it was like, I'dhave a mixture of rice chips.
There might be spaghetti on theplate.
Oh look, there's a hot dog.
I chucked that on the plate.
It was, it was not a cuisinethat would be proud of, but
it's, I didn't have thatself-control.
(20:23):
The one day when I thought, doyou know what?
I'm actually gonna make a nicesalad.
Made a nice salad, had some duckbreast on it, and then I walked
past some hot dogs and had somehot dogs after.
So it just, it goes out thewindows, isn't it?
Jerry (20:32):
a good hotdog man.
Matt (20:34):
I do like a hot duck.
Yeah.
Another question I have, which Ifirst experienced it traveling
in America, what is yourthoughts on people that clap
when the plane lands?
Jerry (20:43):
I grew up with a family that claps.
So this is a
Matt (20:47):
Okay.
Jerry (20:48):
yeah, so this is a very American, uh, thing.
Also, the, the, the folks, theHispanics, Latinos also clap.
So if you ever land in Brazil,Dominican Republic, Mexico,
they're clapping as well.
And I don't do it anymore, Idon't get mad at people for
being happy that they're notdead.
(21:08):
So it's, uh, you know, I can'tbe, I can't be too upset about
it.
Like, what am I gonna.
Stop
Matt (21:16):
Yeah.
I see.
But at the same time, you're notclapping that when a train gets
to a station, you're notclapping when your bus arrives,
are you So.
Jerry (21:25):
right, right.
Again, it's just that so manypeople have a fear of flying.
Do you have any fears
Matt (21:30):
Also, no, no, because I'm a rational human being.
I understand that, that planesare quite a safe mean of travel.
And probably when you're gettingon a plane, that's probably
safer when you'll get
Jerry (21:40):
Matt, you.
Matt (21:42):
No, no, but probably the plane is probably safer journey
than the bus journey.
Jerry (21:45):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Matt (21:46):
And I'm not clapping on the bus.
I mean, as we've discussed inother podcasts, I'll take a shit
on that bus, but I'm not, I'mnot clapping on that bus.
Um, see, I come from a differentthought.
I, when people clap when itlands, I.
These, and it is kind of aparadox.
These people are clapping'causethey've just survived, not
crashing in a plane.
But also these are the peoplethat I've never wanted to be in
(22:07):
a plane crash more, more thanever because they clap.
So it's kind of, they're theleast likely people at that very
point in time to be in a planecrash.
But I've never wanted theirpeople to be in a plane crash
more.
Jerry (22:17):
I hear, but you're, you're on the plane as well,
kind of a, are you willing to
Matt (22:21):
See, how else am I get?
Jerry (22:22):
betterment of the world?
Matt (22:24):
Well, firstly, how else am I hearing these people clap if
I'm not on the plane?
Jerry (22:27):
That's true.
Matt (22:27):
And sec.
Secondly, yes, there are timeswhen I've been in situations
where I've thought if a seriousaccident happens.
An instant happens.
Uh, and it could be at afootball match or something like
this.
The good it will do instead, thetotal population taking out
these people is better than mysacrifice itself.
And that could be just a load offootball hooligans'cause I think
(22:50):
Oh, or, or things like that.
So, yeah, I would take mysacrifice for, for these, for
these, if the, if it lessenedthe world of 200 people that
clap on a plane, land's worthit.
Jerry (23:00):
Right.
What, what does wanted to askyou, what does the, a domestic.
look like for you.
So you and the wife are like,oh, it looks like in two weeks
we have three days where we cango somewhere.
What, what?
Where
Matt (23:13):
Yeah, we're probably, okay.
So first of all, people startedto call them staycations, and I
fucking hate it.
It's not a staycation.
It used to be the staycation.
Honestly, right.
If you go back five years ago,staycation meant you took some
time off work and you stayed athome for the week.
That was the actual mean ofstaycation.
That makes sense for people.
(23:34):
Now it's, well, I just stayed inthe country.
Well, no, that's not astaycation.
You went on holiday.
So we have, for instance, wehave a chain of, uh, holiday
parks called Center Parks orButland and things like this.
Either like.
Village you go to and they haveswimming pools, activities.
If I was going to these, Iwouldn't say I'm having a
staycation.
I'd say I'm gonna center parksor butlins for the weekend.
(23:56):
So what does it matter?
If I go to a week in theCotswold, I wouldn't say I'm
having a staycation because I'mnot staying at home.
It's just, ugh.
So that annoys me.
First of all, let's get that outthere.
Jerry (24:05):
it's still a vacation.
You're just being a cheap fuckabout it.
I get it.
Matt (24:11):
Yeah, exactly that.
Yeah.
Or I'm not getting on a plane.
Yeah.
Um, so yeah, normally, normallywould be driving somewhere
because obviously the size ofthe UK wouldn't need to fly
there.
I'm not, if I was going to, uh,Edinburgh, uh, there's more
chance I'm gonna drive up thereif it was for a week.
'cause all the stuff I've gottatake, I'm not gonna fly up
there.
Um, but yeah, that could be fora varied time.
(24:32):
It could be for a couple ofdays, for a weekend, for a week,
maybe down to Cornwall.
Wherever.
It all depends.
We've got so many differentplaces we can go to in the UK,
obviously.
Um, but yeah, just let's notcall a staycation.
Let's not go down that route.
Jerry (24:44):
right, right.
Matt (24:45):
What about yourself?
If you, obviously a domesticholiday to you though could
involve a six hour flight toCalifornia.
Jerry (24:51):
Exactly.
Matt (24:51):
that as a domestic holiday?
Jerry (24:53):
I wouldn't, I mean, yes, it's still domestic, obviously,
but I, I wouldn't,
Matt (24:56):
You're going through domestic flights?
Yeah.
Jerry (24:58):
Yeah, I wouldn't consider it a staycation if it's that
far.
Matt (25:03):
Where'd you go on your staycation?
Hawaii?
Jerry (25:06):
exactly.
Yeah.
I would, um, I, I, I think ifit's less than three hours or
so, or four hours on a flight.
Somewhere I would consider it astaycation.
So if I'm going to Miami, forexample, from New York, if I'm
going to the Jersey Shore in thesummer, again, it really depends
on the season as well.
Um, I, I would consider it astaycation
Matt (25:24):
I would say if you're staying in state, it's
staycation, but if you leave thestate, then you can change the
word.
Jerry (25:29):
yeah, exactly.
Matt (25:31):
I know, I know obviously some parts of New York are
closer than parts of Jersey, butstill, I would say that if you
were, if you were leaving thestate, like if you went to South
Carolina for a week, ah, youcan't be calling that
staycation.
Jerry (25:43):
yeah, exactly.
Also, who the hell would go toSouth Carolina?
But you know, if you, if youwere
Matt (25:49):
I just, I've gotta get outta a map arrest of just
crossing off states that wewere, we were offended, and
let's, let's hope we can get toall of them.
Done.
Jerry (25:56):
yeah.
We're already
Matt (25:57):
Yeah.
Jerry (25:57):
with England, so.
Matt (25:59):
Yeah.
What about the North Carolinas?
What do you think of them?
Jerry (26:02):
Oh, Charlotte's a good city.
Fair.
Fair.
Matt (26:04):
Should they just combine the Carolinas and just have a
Carolina now?
Jerry (26:08):
You know, Matt, they, they had this argument over a
hundred years ago, and that'show they ended up with North and
South Carolina.
Matt (26:15):
A lot of times passed.
Now let's just have one.
Carolina.
Jerry (26:18):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Matt (26:20):
Yeah.
I think time's passed.
Now let's just have a, let'sjust have one Carolina.
Okay.
Jerry (26:25):
To be fair, they all root for the same sports teams, both
Carolinas.
It's a very similar atmosphere.
Matt (26:31):
I'll just root for different players, but,
Jerry (26:33):
yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Matt (26:35):
okay.
Well that's, uh, at least we'velearned some history.
I didn't realize that the, uh,Carolinas actually were joined
and got divided in a, in, inthe, uh, American in, well,
American Civil War, I imagine.
Jerry (26:46):
I don't know the exact time, which is gonna sound
terrible.
I'm sure we can look it up.
Jamie, can you get us the No,but I'm sure that we can
Matt (26:52):
Yeah.
Jerry (26:52):
the, uh, the information somewhere.
Not that anybody cares.
Uh, I did have one last question'cause I know we're sort of, uh,
we're coming up on time here.
How do you feel about travelingwith children?
Matt (27:04):
My own, yes.
If it's other children, why am Itraveling with'em?
Who are they?
What am I doing?
Jerry (27:10):
That's a crime.
Matt (27:11):
I think that's, I think if it's other, yeah, it's
trafficking.
That's called trafficking.
If it's your own children, it'straveling.
If it's other children, it'scalled trafficking.
Okay.
There's a little, there's asegment for us.
Um, it's, it's not fun.
Um, I mean, I've been in thelong car journeys, five, six
hours.
We been 10 minutes in and it'slike, oh, we're nearly there
yet, et cetera.
This flight wasn't too bad.
(27:31):
But yeah, it's, as I did say,actually I did say at one point
the.
Uh, getting through security, sothe, the airport to security
with the kids and all that.
And we had to go through adifferent one.
'cause we had a, a, a car seat.
It probably took about an hourwhen I traveled in the summer to
come and visit you.
I think from getting to theairport to security, it was
(27:52):
about 10 minutes.
Where this, you know, it's justthat different lifestyle, you
know.
Then I was straight in a bar tohave a drink.
This time I'm like, I've gottago and get the kids some food
and all that.
So it is just differentexperiences, isn't it?
And I could just sit and watchmy.
iPad on the flight out therethis time, I was like, what do
you want?
You've got, you've got a screen.
Why are you bugging me?
Leave me alone.
Jerry (28:12):
Yeah,
Matt (28:13):
um,
Jerry (28:13):
The, the
Matt (28:14):
yeah,
Jerry (28:14):
heavily decreases, when you're traveling with kids.
Matt (28:17):
yeah, I, oh, I didn't, so, yeah, so I think we're, we're
finished on a story.
Uh, I, I, one story from myholiday, but, um.
Yes, that's the thing.
You drink less obviously whenyou're traveling with kids.
Especially when you're driving.
I find, it's when I'm driving.
I, I drink nothing now.
Yeah.
Um, so when I, I, one of thenights when I did have a few,
uh, alcohols, beverage,alcoholic beverages, there was a
(28:40):
stool in the hotel and obviouslystuff in the hotel's a bit more
pricey.
And it was sending these, Ihaven't got it with me, I've
left it at work, but it's alittle apostle of sand.
They put different layers ofsand in it and they can draw a
logo on it.
So I got it to make me one up.
Because I had a few drinks.
I didn't, couldn't do theconversion rate correctly and I
did it the wrong way and Ithought I paid very little for
it.
It's only as I walked away thatI was told, you know, you've
(29:03):
just paid 50 pounds, 50 Englishpounds for this tiny bottle of
sand.
I was fuming abs the guy packedup, that was him done for the
night.
He's,
Jerry (29:11):
Yeah.
Matt (29:12):
he's, he's done, he's take, he's taken the family and
the kids on holiday now.
I think it's like.
Jerry (29:16):
back home to his family and said, this idiot.
Matt (29:20):
Yeah, we're eating tonight, everyone.
Let's go.
Yeah.
So, yeah, so that's the, uh,don't drink and buy stuff is my,
uh, my takeaway from thatholiday.
Jerry (29:29):
love my children.
But it becomes just more thandouble the price when you're
traveling.
It's, it's, it's not just theirflights, it's everything that
you buy or have to bring extra
Matt (29:41):
I mean, you can get on, as you said, you can get on with a
book bag when you go alone,can't you?
But it's just, yeah, it's,
Jerry (29:46):
They just, they
Matt (29:47):
I'm not against.
Jerry (29:48):
car seats, like you mentioned.
Matt (29:51):
Okay.
And I'll, I'll leave you withthis question now.
You can say yes or no and youcan be honest.
'cause let's be honest.
A chance to say, wife's notgonna hear this, but um, you've
booked a holiday to CancunLittle, the four of you do you
pay for yourself to go businessclass?
And then when you get to thegate, just say, oh, they must
have accidentally upgraded me'cause I'm a frequent traveler.
Jerry (30:12):
That is
Matt (30:13):
And leave her in
Jerry (30:14):
Yes,
Matt (30:14):
leave her in economy with the kids.
And to say, I didn't realize,
Jerry (30:18):
Yeah, yeah, that has happened often where I've, I've
been given the option'cause Itravel for work to, uh, to get
Matt (30:24):
yeah.
Jerry (30:26):
every
Matt (30:27):
Have you ever taken it?
Jerry (30:28):
I have it.
No, every time I do offer it tomy wife though, if she wants to
do it, if she, she can go ahead.
Uh, but she never does, she'snever taken me up on the offer.
Matt (30:36):
Okay.
It's, it's something I haven'tdone, but it's something I've
considered.
Put it that way, but then I'mworried, then I'll just get a
kid walking into business.
Jerry (30:43):
me what happens.
I'm not gonna be the Guinea
Matt (30:45):
Yeah.
That seems, that seems to be alot of scenarios in our life.
You always say, can you try itfirst?
But, um.
Jerry (30:51):
Yeah.
trust you.
Matt (30:54):
Okay, well I think we've come to the end of this because
I know we've got things to do.
I'm not sure we've had anythinguseful for our listeners that
can tell'em about vacations,but, um, maybe we've, we've told
us some stuff they shouldn't do.
Jerry (31:05):
Yeah, I'm sure there's some nuggets in there.
Matt (31:07):
Yeah, I just wanna check, we've covered it all.
We've covered, um, how I'drather dine a plane crash and
bring up many people so theydon't clap, uh, trafficking
children on holiday.
And, uh, I think that's it,isn't it?
Jerry (31:18):
Yeah.
That, that's pretty much it.
And uh, and being a cheap skateand staying local.
Matt (31:23):
That's it.
Okay.
And we've offended the northernas usual.
Okay.
Alright.
I'll catch you next week.
Perfect.
Okay.
Your, uh, your video qualityteam's a bit low today, but as
long as your audio's good, Idon't care.
Jerry (00:13):
Yeah.
I mean, you, you look fine.
Matt (00:15):
I look fine.
I always look fine, but youlook, you look like you're using
a Nokia as your workout, but I'mnot sure what.
Jerry (00:22):
over here.
Matt (00:24):
Yeah, but it doesn't matter.
Let's just start.
Hi.
Hi everyone.
Welcome to today's episode.
Um, I dunno what episode.
It's quite good that we, I'm,I'm losing count of episodes,
which is good, but it means I'vejust got a shitty memory'cause
we're not that far into itreally?
Are we?
Jerry (00:39):
two things.
We haven't quit and we don'thave much going on in our lives.
Matt (00:44):
Yeah, it's, it's mainly the, the, the latter, isn't it?
We've got, we've got nothinggoing on.
Um, anyway, let's, uh, itworked.
I think it worked well lastweek, so let's try it again.
Let's see what's coming up oftoday's show
Jerry (00:56):
That's right.
Matt (00:57):
we are not big in Europe.
Jerry (00:58):
know better.
Matt (00:59):
Yeah.
Jerry (01:01):
Hopefully.
Matt (01:02):
But welcome South America.
Jerry (01:03):
No one in northern England has heard any of these
podcasts.
Matt (01:07):
Let's be honest.
They wouldn't know how.
what is your thoughts on peoplethat clap when the plane lands?
So it's kind of, they're theleast likely people at that very
point in time to be in a planecrash.
But I've never wanted theirpeople to be in a plane crash
more.
Well, that all sounds excitingor it sounds, shit we don't, as
we said, we don't know at thispoint.
Um, it could be like the worst.
(01:28):
We could be putting the worstparts of the show in there,
couldn't we?
It could just be you cryingbecause you know, your wife
doesn't talk to you anymore.
I dunno, it could be.
Let's see how this, it's likeforeshadowing, isn't it Really
more than, more than, uh, what'scoming up.
Um, so just in that little whyyou were having that little, uh,
interlude, we were justdiscussing of our viewership,
(01:52):
uh, and, and we said that we, Ithink last time we spoke, we
had, uh, was it, we said that wehad a lot of views in Asia.
Jerry (01:59):
We did
Matt (01:59):
Um,
Jerry (02:00):
in Asia.
Yeah.
Matt (02:02):
okay, so.
So someone listened to it.
So we've had some Spotifyviewers, uh, but I believe you,
you, you are part of the Spotifyfigures.
Uh,
Jerry (02:15):
I'm, I'm, I'm pumping those numbers up maybe.
Matt (02:18):
yeah.
I'm trying to, there wassomewhere I could find out
where, oh, locations.
Here we go.
Okay, so we, no, we've got aSouth America.
Hello.
Welcome South America.
Welcome to the party.
Jerry (02:34):
America.
Matt (02:34):
Yeah.
Wow.
I, I, do, you know, if, if Ijust go to our stats page, we
are now disappointing threedifferent continents.
Jerry (02:44):
God is good.
Matt (02:45):
Yeah.
And none of them are Europe atthe moment.
We are,
Jerry (02:49):
They, they
Matt (02:49):
we are not big in Europe.
Jerry (02:50):
know better.
Matt (02:51):
Yeah.
Jerry (02:53):
Hopefully.
Matt (02:54):
But welcome South America.
Jerry (02:55):
No one in northern England has heard any of these
podcasts.
Matt (02:59):
Let's be honest.
They wouldn't know how.
Jerry (03:02):
Oh God bless them.
Matt (03:04):
Uh,
Jerry (03:05):
Yeah.
Matt (03:06):
um, but yeah, there's some good news that actually, uh, we
can announce that coming in acouple of weeks.
We actually have a live podcastcoming up
Jerry (03:13):
Very exciting in, uh, in the
Matt (03:15):
when I say Yeah.
Of Liverpool.
Yeah.
So,
Jerry (03:20):
Northern
Matt (03:20):
get your tickets now.
Yeah, so I'd say get yourtickets now.
But you can't, it's not thatlive.
It's as in we'll be doing it inperson,
Jerry (03:28):
right.
Matt (03:28):
but uh, what I might do is give out the location so people
can come and, uh, stone you todeath.
It'll make great content, won'tit?
Jerry (03:36):
really would, it really, it would ramp those figures up,
wouldn't it?
Matt (03:39):
Yeah, yeah.
It will get us those Europefigures that we've been longing
for.
Jerry (03:43):
think we're that desperate yet where we need that
level of content, but never saynever.
Matt (03:48):
No, we're not gonna do a, um, uh.
I can't remember his name.
He is the guy that doeswrestling.
Now, the, the two brothers, onebecame a boxer, one became a
wrestler, and he, he,
Jerry (04:00):
Paul
Matt (04:00):
yeah.
Logan Paul.
Yeah.
So Logan Paul, when he had somefootage of, uh, someone that
died in his, in one of his videocast, we're not that that level
yet, but.
Jerry (04:09):
But you know, again, never say never.
He seems to be doing
Matt (04:12):
Next year,
Jerry (04:12):
Yeah,
Matt (04:13):
I think, I think January, January we'll have a bit of
slum.
So if we kill you in a livepodcast, maybe I'll become a
wrestler.
Jerry (04:18):
there you
Matt (04:19):
that's, that's the plan.
Yeah.
Um, so, so obviously we, weweren't going to the subject
just yet.
I know we're, we're pushed fortime, but obviously I haven't
really spoke to you'cause I'vebeen, I was on vacation last
week in, uh, I went to Dubai.
So we, obviously our podcastcame out, but that was
prerecorded, like all ourpodcasts.
Um, so when you rang meyesterday, I was like, don't
(04:39):
talk to me.
This, you know, I don't wannaspeak to you.
I wanna, I wanna build up ourconversation because we might
have some, we might actuallyhave some content if we don't
speak to each other for, uh, fora week.
But yeah, it's,
Jerry (04:49):
still
Matt (04:49):
what are we in, we're in four, four minutes in and I've
run out things to say to you.
Jerry (04:54):
exactly.
How was Dubai and who did you gowith?
What?
What did you do there?
Matt (04:59):
So Dubai is actually a great segue where we're getting
really good, we're gettingprofessional now.
So it is a great segue into thisweek's conversation, which is
about vacations and travel.
Um,'cause obviously they're verydifferent.
So, uh, I think we'll just jumpin.
We'll jump in.
So,'cause this kind of comesacross or a standard, uh,
holiday for a Brit, but um,obviously not to Dubai.
(05:24):
But yeah, I went with thefamily.
Um, it's very good.
We stayed in a result, but I'lllead into, so a standard, let's
go.
For the average summer holidayfor a Brit is normally, could be
anywhere, but normally, let'ssay to a European beach result,
all inclusive.
They sit by the result for aweek or two, uh, might venture
(05:46):
out some trips, maybe they mightset some excursions.
But really for that two weeksyou'll sit on that same sun
lounger.
'cause you're getting up at sixo'clock putting your towel down
on that sun lounger.
Jerry (05:54):
I
Matt (05:55):
fight to get those sun loungers.
I, I'm gonna say like, is, isthat the thing?
You get where you go when you goon holiday.
Where would you go on yoursummer holiday?
Jerry (06:04):
Right, right.
So I, I, I want to, you know,preface this by saying very
different from the Brits, right?
It's like I just looked up thefigures.
Now, 86% of Brits havepassports.
50% of Americans or lesspassports, right?
Also, the US is huge.
So you've tr you're quite welltraveled within the US There's a
(06:25):
lot of Americans that just don'tleave the us, which I find
strange, but.
It's big enough where you canpretty much get a little bit of
everything.
though, the Caribbean, Mexico isnormally your go-to for a quick
holiday, let's say a week or so.
Matt (06:40):
And what's the clientele like on these?
Do you have, and I'll get to itdoesn't matter.
I could go to the remote, remoteremotest island.
Say they build Hilton, build anall inclusive resort
Jerry (06:52):
Right.
Matt (06:53):
on the Farrow Islands or somewhere completely remote
where I'm gonna go there.
But I'm gonna see a northernperson there.
Any all inclusive holiday I goto.
There's someone from the northof England that, I dunno how
they get there.
Jerry (07:04):
Yeah, yeah,
Matt (07:05):
where these planes are coming in from because I
normally, some, some of theseplaces just fly from Heathrow
and, and the big cities.
But yeah, there's always gonnabe a northern person.
You'd be sitting around the pooland I'd hear that northern
accent.
So do you have these sort ofguaranteed things you're gonna
see on these Caribbean holidays?
And firstly, can you just sayit's, it's Caribbean.
Can you just say it correctlyfor me please?
Jerry (07:26):
Uh, Caribbean, of course.
Yes.
Um, yeah, no, yeah.
So you're gonna see people fromeverywhere, right?
Um, you'll definitely findsomeone from the New York metro
area, so that's guaranteed,right?
We're probably the biggesttravelers.
a lot of Canadians love going tothe Caribbean as well, so you're
definitely gonna see Canadians.
Canadians are chill though, soour Northerners Canadians are,
(07:48):
are a lot more.
Composed than, uh, let's say ana Northerner from the uk
Matt (07:55):
I have jobs for a start.
Jerry (07:57):
to be fair, to be fair.
I, I did recently hear that in
Matt (08:00):
Canadians are mostly unemployed.
Is that what you're trying tosay?
Jerry (08:03):
I'm not.
I will say, uh, from myunderstanding, uh, folks in
Manny, they're known as theworker bees and they get bee
tattoos, if I'm not mistaken.
Matt (08:13):
This is not a fact I've ever heard of.
Um.
Jerry (08:16):
heard this more than once, so I, I gotta, I gotta put
some respect on, uh, on thefolks from Manchester Liver
Pool.
Who cares?
But, you know,
Matt (08:24):
Okay.
Yeah, I maybe, maybe fact checkthat.
I dunno if that's true or not.
I've never heard of the'causethey,
Jerry (08:31):
we should go into this Northern English, but.
Matt (08:34):
yeah, but I mean, I've never heard of anyone going, oh,
I've got a job.
I'm a worker.
Well, who else works?
Bees.
I'm gonna get a tattoo of a bee.
Do you know what I mean?
Jerry (08:44):
No dude.
It's real.
It's real.
Definitely look.
Matt (08:47):
Um, okay.
All right.
We're moving on from that.
Um, okay, so, so yeah.
So, uh, do you tend to go for anall-inclusive result when you go
away?
Jerry (08:56):
Uh, not all the time.
So again, I think the shorterthe vacation, um, we, we'll do
a, uh, an all-inclusive'causeyou get, you get kind of tired
of it.
It's, it's really all the
Matt (09:05):
It's the same stuff every day, isn't it?
Yeah.
Jerry (09:07):
So if, you know, after four days, maybe even three,
you're like, all right, I wannado something else.
also travel here is consuming.
Right.
Getting to the, to the Caribbeanmight be four or five hours.
Right.
Getting to California, six hoursfrom, from, from the east coast.
Um.
(09:27):
So you, you probably tend to dosomething that has more a la
carte options going to Europe,for example, you, you, you're
gonna go to just more of aboutique hotel probably than you
would in all inclusive location.
You know, I feel like in Europeyou can get everywhere
Matt (09:40):
in, as in an American would go to a boutique hotel.
See, that's, I think what'sdifferent if, if you were going
to Europe, you are gonna go tocity breaks, aren't you?
Where I think when Europeans,when the Brits go on their
European holidays, that's morebeach holidays.
Jerry (09:55):
Right, 100%.
Matt (09:56):
we're going different.
So I'm not saying we don't dothe cities, but I, I find a lot
of my friends that do the citybreaks are people that are not
originally from the uk andthey've moved here and they go,
oh, I want to go and see Madrid.
I want to go and see Barcelona.
I wanna go to Frankfurt.
And I think, I've never been toany of these cities.
I could maybe not point to themon a map.
So
Jerry (10:14):
Right.
Matt (10:15):
very rare and I'm speaking for the entire nation here.
So it's, it's, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I fact checked it.
I've done my check of how manyBrits have been to major
European cities.
It is fine.
I mean, we voted to get out ofEurope, so I pretty much think
I'm, I can say, I'm not saying Idid, but I'm saying, you know,
as a whole we voted to leaveEurope, so
Jerry (10:34):
I'm not a.
Matt (10:34):
Yeah.
Not a racist.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jerry (10:40):
Again,
Matt (10:41):
um.
Jerry (10:41):
England.
Um, I, I would, um, no, I, Iwould, I would agree with you.
And also even when we go to, um,we, we love beach clubs.
Just all over Europe, so southof France, uh, the Amalfi Coast,
Spain as well.
Fantastic beach clubs.
But we normally add a city tothe stop.
(11:02):
So we might do Rome, Naples forthree days, and then the Amalfi
Coast, Paris for three, fourdays.
Then we go to the south ofFrance.
We don't just go straight to thebeach,
Matt (11:13):
Yeah, I suppose we're looking at different angles.
You are thinking it'ssightseeing, you are, this is
Jerry (11:17):
correct.
Matt (11:17):
territory.
You wanna go and view it wherewe are thinking we just wanna
get somewhere and lay down andget drunk for two weeks.
Yeah.
I say two weeks, it's a week.
The two week holidays.
Jerry (11:26):
holiday vacation.
The Americans go on trips,
Matt (11:30):
Yeah.
And then, uh, I would say howlong would do a vacation be?
But if you were going, so if youwere going to Mexico for the
summer, how long would you gofor a week?
Couple of days.
Jerry (11:41):
maybe
Matt (11:41):
Two weeks.
Jerry (11:42):
Yeah.
Historically we don't, we don'treally travel out for too many
days.
Matt (11:47):
Yeah.
So we do, we do the sort of theweek, but like we'd go for a
week, like, and maybe that's'cause it comes from the sort of
package deals would be a week.
So you go for the week or twoweeks?
The two weeks.
Very rare.
I, I don't see many people nowgo for the two weeks thing.
I think it's just more sort ofcost of living and,
Jerry (12:02):
Yeah.
Matt (12:03):
people are busier, but, um, but even in this world
where.
You can book your flightsseparately and all that, and you
can book it.
I could go on a Monday, comeback on a Friday.
People still just tenderly gofor a week.
It's just, it's like industrial,it's like built into us now
that, you know, we'll goSaturday to Saturday.
I mean, I, I, I did eight daysonly because I lost a day
(12:23):
traveling.
So I thought, well, okay, wellI'll just add an extra day on.
And then come back.
So I had seven days on holiday.
Jerry (12:29):
How are
Matt (12:30):
the thing we called it holiday, you called it vacation.
And when I say to, and I've hadthis, when I've spoken to
American friends and said, oh,I've just got back from the
holiday.
And they're like, there was noholiday this weekend.
I was like, I mean, yes, butsurely you understand.
Sure.
I know that's not what you callit, but you know, I'm not, so
when you're saying I'll just getup on the sidewalk, I'm not
thinking.
(12:51):
What the, what the hell is asidewalk?
What is he talking about?
You know, I, I understandbecause I'm a functioning human
being
Jerry (12:57):
yes.
Matt (12:58):
can understand.
Jerry (12:59):
clues.
Matt (13:01):
Yes, yes.
Jerry (13:01):
Yeah.
Yeah.
You've had a
Matt (13:03):
So that's
Jerry (13:04):
before.
Matt (13:06):
exactly from another country.
So I understand.
Yeah,
Jerry (13:10):
Yeah.
No,
Matt (13:10):
I understand that.
What you call.
Jerry (13:12):
that's a big issue with Americans, right?
Just in, in a, in a regularsense, Prairie Beach.
But I gotta ask around work.
do you tell your job when you'regoing on holiday?
Are you available?
Are you not available?
Matt (13:25):
Fuck you all see you in two weeks.
I've only gone for a week.
Um, no, no.
I, I'm not available.
It's my out of office goes on.
I, I turn off my outlook andeverything so no one can contact
me for a week.
It's'cause this is my time.
They're not paying for me forit.
So, I mean, any problems they'vegot that's with them and God, I,
I see it.
Jerry (13:46):
How about if they don't believe in God, Matt,
Matt (13:48):
Uh, well then that's, then, then they're screwed.
So
Jerry (13:52):
They're in
Matt (13:52):
yeah.
They're in trouble.
Yeah.
Jerry (13:54):
um, so, so you just came back.
I'm traveling today.
I'm headed to DominicanRepublic, uh, for a wedding.
My out of office is not on, soI'm completely available.
I've told my entire team, youcan text me, you can teams me,
email me, call me on WhatsApp.
If you can't get me on service,I'll have WhatsApp available.
(14:14):
So that is a huge difference.
We are 100% available all thetime.
Matt (14:20):
Is it because this come stemming from issues where you
just want to be liked.
Jerry (14:25):
Uh, I don't know.
I think it's just culturally,it's,
Matt (14:29):
Is that, and is that, is that because,
Jerry (14:31):
ladder, my, my bosses were always available.
Matt (14:35):
but is that because you are, you are quite high up your
ladder?
You have to, but if I was, uh,if you were lower down the
ladder, would you have expectedThis is my two weeks.
See you later.
Jerry (14:45):
Perhaps, uh, even, even when I was just, you know, your,
your lowly analyst, I wasprobably still available.
Matt (14:52):
So is it frowned upon to put you out of office on then?
Jerry (14:55):
Uh, one says it out loud.
Matt (14:58):
Okay.
Jerry (14:58):
an unspoken
Matt (14:59):
So if, if, and if you did put your out of office on, would
someone mention it to you whenyou got back?
Jerry (15:04):
They wouldn't mention it, but it's like.
A snide here and there.
Matt (15:09):
Okay.
Yeah, that's a different, that'sdefinitely a different way of
working.
Jerry (15:13):
Yeah.
Matt (15:13):
But you work with, you have offices in different
countries, so, but they, theywork through their cultural.
I suppose different, differentemploy we've done that.
If you, and you would like to goback to our, go back to our
employment episode, a littlespin back to that if you wanna
hear about how employment worksin different countries.
But um, yeah, I suppose they goto their culture, didn't they?
But that's very interesting.
I didn't know that.
So are you,
Jerry (15:34):
and they're very relaxed when it comes to vacations.
Matt (15:37):
so how often will you be checking your phone when you're
on vacation?
Like your emails?
So.
Jerry (15:44):
Once an hour probably
Matt (15:47):
Okay.
Jerry (15:48):
my
Matt (15:48):
annoying.
Jerry (15:48):
to be fair, my notifications won't be off.
I'll
Matt (15:53):
Okay.
Jerry (15:53):
notifications
Matt (15:54):
I, I did that.
I, I turned off, I turned offnotifications.
I think one day I went in andchecked my email just'cause I
thought it's been a couple ofdays.
Check that, you know, it'smainly check.
I haven't had an email from HRsaying they found something and
I'm fired.
That's all I need to check.
You know, it's, it's, it's beena long time.
People do some investigating,you know, around my computer and
all that while I'm not there.
I thought I better just check.
(16:14):
I've still got a job to comeback to.
That's all I worried about.
Anything else.
Shit, you know, that shit freakwith that.
Okay.
So, so you go away out of officeon, off, um, different period of
time when you get back.
So it's first day back in theoffice.
Are you just straight back in itat nine o'clock like nothing's
happened or do you need a goodday to get back into it?
Jerry (16:37):
Yeah, so I, I, I'd like to have a good day to get back
into it, so I'm still working,just working from home.
I won't go into the office thenext day just so we can sort of
Matt (16:45):
See, I.
I think my first day back in theoffice, don't ask me to do
anything.
That's really me walking aroundtelling people about my holiday.
I,
Jerry (16:54):
Right.
Matt (16:54):
I'm not planning on getting any work done in that
time.
I'll brag at that point, justsaying, uh, the same things
like, you know, oh, not, you'renot used to this weather.
Jerry (17:02):
Right.
I I
Matt (17:04):
Oh, I'd be having buffet lunch about this time.
Jerry (17:07):
in terms of attire you're, um, as you're
vacationing or on holiday, hasthere ever been a point, and,
and obviously there arestereotypes that Americans have
of Europeans, has there everbeen a point, Matt, in your life
where you wore a Speedo on thebeach?
Matt (17:22):
I don't believe so.
Jerry (17:25):
EE the fact that there's even the possibility that you
did,
Matt (17:29):
Yeah.
I, I have to, well, that's'causeI know I, that's because that's
'cause I know I own a Speedo,but if,
Jerry (17:37):
what led you to
Matt (17:38):
have I worn it?
I've never worn it on holiday.
I've never worn it on a holiday.
But I'm just trying to think.
I didn't actually rememberseeing many Speedos on holiday.
Jerry (17:47):
where?
Where
Matt (17:49):
is a holiday that when I came to visit you on holiday,
but you were asleep.
Jerry (17:53):
the local bathhouse?
Matt (17:55):
Yeah.
Um, I don't recall actuallyseeing any Speedos when I was on
the holiday or being on holiday,so I think it's a myth.
Um, like there's always thatmyth that Europeans have a lot
of nudist beaches.
Jerry (18:06):
Yeah.
Matt (18:08):
again, again, not true.
I think the only time I've comeacross a nudist beach, I was on
a holiday when I was, we werecanoeing around different
islands of Croatia.
You know, sometimes we'd be acanoe in good couple of hours to
get to the next island.
Then a ship would bring all ourbaggage to the next one.
And with tides and all that, youcan't always decide where you're
gonna land.
And the guy said, look, we'regonna land on a nudist beach.
(18:30):
So I was getting a bit excitedby this.
But all, all that happened wasthere was a angry 6-year-old
naked German man standing upshouting at us because we just
landed 12 canoes on the beach.
And it just with his tod justflapping about in the sun.
And that's must my only exposureto a, uh, new speech.
It wasn't that exciting.
Probably do it again, but it'snot, that's it.
(18:53):
So
Jerry (18:54):
Yeah,
Matt (18:54):
it's not what people say.
Jerry (18:56):
have many here.
We have a couple, but it's veryrare,
Matt (18:59):
Um, just going back to, so these all inclusives and I take
it, they're the same deal,obviously they are.
But uh, where you have like thebuffet, lunch, dinner, breakfast
things, what's your attitude ona plate?
Now?
Normally on these things you canget 10 different cuisines from
around the world at other buffet'cause they like to cater for
everyone.
Do you make a meal or do youjust have a little bit of
(19:20):
everything on your plate?
Jerry (19:21):
That is a good question.
So now that I'm older, I'm anold man.
I, uh, I actually have a verylight breakfast.
I, I find when I have a veryheavy breakfast, the rest of the
day kind of goes to shit.
Um, so I'll probably just havesomething different every day,
but just a, a small amount.
Um, also in your all inclusives,do you have formal sit down
(19:46):
restaurants available that youcan make reservations for?
Matt (19:49):
Yes.
It depends on the, some of themthey allow you to do that and
it's just first come, first,serve some, allow.
You allowed to go to one a week.
The one I just went to, youcould go there to, but you had
to pay extra
Jerry (20:01):
Okay.
Matt (20:01):
'cause we were off traveling to different places.
We're like, well, no, we're eatat those restaurants when we're
out in Dubai, et cetera.
Different restaurants, so.
I just literally, when I was inthe hotel, did the buffet
restaurant and it was like, I'dhave a mixture of rice chips.
There might be spaghetti on theplate.
Oh look, there's a hot dog.
I chucked that on the plate.
It was, it was not a cuisinethat would be proud of, but
it's, I didn't have thatself-control.
(20:23):
The one day when I thought, doyou know what?
I'm actually gonna make a nicesalad.
Made a nice salad, had some duckbreast on it, and then I walked
past some hot dogs and had somehot dogs after.
So it just, it goes out thewindows, isn't it?
Jerry (20:32):
a good hotdog man.
Matt (20:34):
I do like a hot duck.
Yeah.
Another question I have, which Ifirst experienced it traveling
in America, what is yourthoughts on people that clap
when the plane lands?
Jerry (20:43):
I grew up with a family that claps.
So this is a
Matt (20:47):
Okay.
Jerry (20:48):
yeah, so this is a very American, uh, thing.
Also, the, the, the folks, theHispanics, Latinos also clap.
So if you ever land in Brazil,Dominican Republic, Mexico,
they're clapping as well.
And I don't do it anymore, Idon't get mad at people for
being happy that they're notdead.
(21:08):
So it's, uh, you know, I can'tbe, I can't be too upset about
it.
Like, what am I gonna.
Stop
Matt (21:16):
Yeah.
I see.
But at the same time, you're notclapping that when a train gets
to a station, you're notclapping when your bus arrives,
are you So.
Jerry (21:25):
right, right.
Again, it's just that so manypeople have a fear of flying.
Do you have any fears
Matt (21:30):
Also, no, no, because I'm a rational human being.
I understand that, that planesare quite a safe mean of travel.
And probably when you're gettingon a plane, that's probably
safer when you'll get
Jerry (21:40):
Matt, you.
Matt (21:42):
No, no, but probably the plane is probably safer journey
than the bus journey.
Jerry (21:45):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Matt (21:46):
And I'm not clapping on the bus.
I mean, as we've discussed inother podcasts, I'll take a shit
on that bus, but I'm not, I'mnot clapping on that bus.
Um, see, I come from a differentthought.
I, when people clap when itlands, I.
These, and it is kind of aparadox.
These people are clapping'causethey've just survived, not
crashing in a plane.
But also these are the peoplethat I've never wanted to be in
(22:07):
a plane crash more, more thanever because they clap.
So it's kind of, they're theleast likely people at that very
point in time to be in a planecrash.
But I've never wanted theirpeople to be in a plane crash
more.
Jerry (22:17):
I hear, but you're, you're on the plane as well,
kind of a, are you willing to
Matt (22:21):
See, how else am I get?
Jerry (22:22):
betterment of the world?
Matt (22:24):
Well, firstly, how else am I hearing these people clap if
I'm not on the plane?
Jerry (22:27):
That's true.
Matt (22:27):
And sec.
Secondly, yes, there are timeswhen I've been in situations
where I've thought if a seriousaccident happens.
An instant happens.
Uh, and it could be at afootball match or something like
this.
The good it will do instead, thetotal population taking out
these people is better than mysacrifice itself.
And that could be just a load offootball hooligans'cause I think
(22:50):
Oh, or, or things like that.
So, yeah, I would take mysacrifice for, for these, for
these, if the, if it lessenedthe world of 200 people that
clap on a plane, land's worthit.
Jerry (23:00):
Right.
What, what does wanted to askyou, what does the, a domestic.
look like for you.
So you and the wife are like,oh, it looks like in two weeks
we have three days where we cango somewhere.
What, what?
Where
Matt (23:13):
Yeah, we're probably, okay.
So first of all, people startedto call them staycations, and I
fucking hate it.
It's not a staycation.
It used to be the staycation.
Honestly, right.
If you go back five years ago,staycation meant you took some
time off work and you stayed athome for the week.
That was the actual mean ofstaycation.
That makes sense for people.
(23:34):
Now it's, well, I just stayed inthe country.
Well, no, that's not astaycation.
You went on holiday.
So we have, for instance, wehave a chain of, uh, holiday
parks called Center Parks orButland and things like this.
Either like.
Village you go to and they haveswimming pools, activities.
If I was going to these, Iwouldn't say I'm having a
staycation.
I'd say I'm gonna center parksor butlins for the weekend.
(23:56):
So what does it matter?
If I go to a week in theCotswold, I wouldn't say I'm
having a staycation because I'mnot staying at home.
It's just, ugh.
So that annoys me.
First of all, let's get that outthere.
Jerry (24:05):
it's still a vacation.
You're just being a cheap fuckabout it.
I get it.
Matt (24:11):
Yeah, exactly that.
Yeah.
Or I'm not getting on a plane.
Yeah.
Um, so yeah, normally, normallywould be driving somewhere
because obviously the size ofthe UK wouldn't need to fly
there.
I'm not, if I was going to, uh,Edinburgh, uh, there's more
chance I'm gonna drive up thereif it was for a week.
'cause all the stuff I've gottatake, I'm not gonna fly up
there.
Um, but yeah, that could be fora varied time.
(24:32):
It could be for a couple ofdays, for a weekend, for a week,
maybe down to Cornwall.
Wherever.
It all depends.
We've got so many differentplaces we can go to in the UK,
obviously.
Um, but yeah, just let's notcall a staycation.
Let's not go down that route.
Jerry (24:44):
right, right.
Matt (24:45):
What about yourself?
If you, obviously a domesticholiday to you though could
involve a six hour flight toCalifornia.
Jerry (24:51):
Exactly.
Matt (24:51):
that as a domestic holiday?
Jerry (24:53):
I wouldn't, I mean, yes, it's still domestic, obviously,
but I, I wouldn't,
Matt (24:56):
You're going through domestic flights?
Yeah.
Jerry (24:58):
Yeah, I wouldn't consider it a staycation if it's that
far.
Matt (25:03):
Where'd you go on your staycation?
Hawaii?
Jerry (25:06):
exactly.
Yeah.
I would, um, I, I, I think ifit's less than three hours or
so, or four hours on a flight.
Somewhere I would consider it astaycation.
So if I'm going to Miami, forexample, from New York, if I'm
going to the Jersey Shore in thesummer, again, it really depends
on the season as well.
Um, I, I would consider it astaycation
Matt (25:24):
I would say if you're staying in state, it's
staycation, but if you leave thestate, then you can change the
word.
Jerry (25:29):
yeah, exactly.
Matt (25:31):
I know, I know obviously some parts of New York are
closer than parts of Jersey, butstill, I would say that if you
were, if you were leaving thestate, like if you went to South
Carolina for a week, ah, youcan't be calling that
staycation.
Jerry (25:43):
yeah, exactly.
Also, who the hell would go toSouth Carolina?
But you know, if you, if youwere
Matt (25:49):
I just, I've gotta get outta a map arrest of just
crossing off states that wewere, we were offended, and
let's, let's hope we can get toall of them.
Done.
Jerry (25:56):
yeah.
We're already
Matt (25:57):
Yeah.
Jerry (25:57):
with England, so.
Matt (25:59):
Yeah.
What about the North Carolinas?
What do you think of them?
Jerry (26:02):
Oh, Charlotte's a good city.
Fair.
Fair.
Matt (26:04):
Should they just combine the Carolinas and just have a
Carolina now?
Jerry (26:08):
You know, Matt, they, they had this argument over a
hundred years ago, and that'show they ended up with North and
South Carolina.
Matt (26:15):
A lot of times passed.
Now let's just have one.
Carolina.
Jerry (26:18):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Matt (26:20):
Yeah.
I think time's passed.
Now let's just have a, let'sjust have one Carolina.
Okay.
Jerry (26:25):
To be fair, they all root for the same sports teams, both
Carolinas.
It's a very similar atmosphere.
Matt (26:31):
I'll just root for different players, but,
Jerry (26:33):
yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Matt (26:35):
okay.
Well that's, uh, at least we'velearned some history.
I didn't realize that the, uh,Carolinas actually were joined
and got divided in a, in, inthe, uh, American in, well,
American Civil War, I imagine.
Jerry (26:46):
I don't know the exact time, which is gonna sound
terrible.
I'm sure we can look it up.
Jamie, can you get us the No,but I'm sure that we can
Matt (26:52):
Yeah.
Jerry (26:52):
the, uh, the information somewhere.
Not that anybody cares.
Uh, I did have one last question'cause I know we're sort of, uh,
we're coming up on time here.
How do you feel about travelingwith children?
Matt (27:04):
My own, yes.
If it's other children, why am Itraveling with'em?
Who are they?
What am I doing?
Jerry (27:10):
That's a crime.
Matt (27:11):
I think that's, I think if it's other, yeah, it's
trafficking.
That's called trafficking.
If it's your own children, it'straveling.
If it's other children, it'scalled trafficking.
Okay.
There's a little, there's asegment for us.
Um, it's, it's not fun.
Um, I mean, I've been in thelong car journeys, five, six
hours.
We been 10 minutes in and it'slike, oh, we're nearly there
yet, et cetera.
This flight wasn't too bad.
(27:31):
But yeah, it's, as I did say,actually I did say at one point
the.
Uh, getting through security, sothe, the airport to security
with the kids and all that.
And we had to go through adifferent one.
'cause we had a, a, a car seat.
It probably took about an hourwhen I traveled in the summer to
come and visit you.
I think from getting to theairport to security, it was
(27:52):
about 10 minutes.
Where this, you know, it's justthat different lifestyle, you
know.
Then I was straight in a bar tohave a drink.
This time I'm like, I've gottago and get the kids some food
and all that.
So it is just differentexperiences, isn't it?
And I could just sit and watchmy.
iPad on the flight out therethis time, I was like, what do
you want?
You've got, you've got a screen.
Why are you bugging me?
Leave me alone.
Jerry (28:12):
Yeah,
Matt (28:13):
um,
Jerry (28:13):
The, the
Matt (28:14):
yeah,
Jerry (28:14):
heavily decreases, when you're traveling with kids.
Matt (28:17):
yeah, I, oh, I didn't, so, yeah, so I think we're, we're
finished on a story.
Uh, I, I, one story from myholiday, but, um.
Yes, that's the thing.
You drink less obviously whenyou're traveling with kids.
Especially when you're driving.
I find, it's when I'm driving.
I, I drink nothing now.
Yeah.
Um, so when I, I, one of thenights when I did have a few,
uh, alcohols, beverage,alcoholic beverages, there was a
(28:40):
stool in the hotel and obviouslystuff in the hotel's a bit more
pricey.
And it was sending these, Ihaven't got it with me, I've
left it at work, but it's alittle apostle of sand.
They put different layers ofsand in it and they can draw a
logo on it.
So I got it to make me one up.
Because I had a few drinks.
I didn't, couldn't do theconversion rate correctly and I
did it the wrong way and Ithought I paid very little for
it.
It's only as I walked away thatI was told, you know, you've
(29:03):
just paid 50 pounds, 50 Englishpounds for this tiny bottle of
sand.
I was fuming abs the guy packedup, that was him done for the
night.
He's,
Jerry (29:11):
Yeah.
Matt (29:12):
he's, he's done, he's take, he's taken the family and
the kids on holiday now.
I think it's like.
Jerry (29:16):
back home to his family and said, this idiot.
Matt (29:20):
Yeah, we're eating tonight, everyone.
Let's go.
Yeah.
So, yeah, so that's the, uh,don't drink and buy stuff is my,
uh, my takeaway from thatholiday.
Jerry (29:29):
love my children.
But it becomes just more thandouble the price when you're
traveling.
It's, it's, it's not just theirflights, it's everything that
you buy or have to bring extra
Matt (29:41):
I mean, you can get on, as you said, you can get on with a
book bag when you go alone,can't you?
But it's just, yeah, it's,
Jerry (29:46):
They just, they
Matt (29:47):
I'm not against.
Jerry (29:48):
car seats, like you mentioned.
Matt (29:51):
Okay.
And I'll, I'll leave you withthis question now.
You can say yes or no and youcan be honest.
'cause let's be honest.
A chance to say, wife's notgonna hear this, but um, you've
booked a holiday to CancunLittle, the four of you do you
pay for yourself to go businessclass?
And then when you get to thegate, just say, oh, they must
have accidentally upgraded me'cause I'm a frequent traveler.
Jerry (30:12):
That is
Matt (30:13):
And leave her in
Jerry (30:14):
Yes,
Matt (30:14):
leave her in economy with the kids.
And to say, I didn't realize,
Jerry (30:18):
Yeah, yeah, that has happened often where I've, I've
been given the option'cause Itravel for work to, uh, to get
Matt (30:24):
yeah.
Jerry (30:26):
every
Matt (30:27):
Have you ever taken it?
Jerry (30:28):
I have it.
No, every time I do offer it tomy wife though, if she wants to
do it, if she, she can go ahead.
Uh, but she never does, she'snever taken me up on the offer.
Matt (30:36):
Okay.
It's, it's something I haven'tdone, but it's something I've
considered.
Put it that way, but then I'mworried, then I'll just get a
kid walking into business.
Jerry (30:43):
me what happens.
I'm not gonna be the Guinea
Matt (30:45):
Yeah.
That seems, that seems to be alot of scenarios in our life.
You always say, can you try itfirst?
But, um.
Jerry (30:51):
Yeah.
trust you.
Matt (30:54):
Okay, well I think we've come to the end of this because
I know we've got things to do.
I'm not sure we've had anythinguseful for our listeners that
can tell'em about vacations,but, um, maybe we've, we've told
us some stuff they shouldn't do.
Jerry (31:05):
Yeah, I'm sure there's some nuggets in there.
Matt (31:07):
Yeah, I just wanna check, we've covered it all.
We've covered, um, how I'drather dine a plane crash and
bring up many people so theydon't clap, uh, trafficking
children on holiday.
And, uh, I think that's it,isn't it?
Jerry (31:18):
Yeah.
That, that's pretty much it.
And uh, and being a cheap skateand staying local.
Matt (31:23):
That's it.
Okay.
And we've offended the northernas usual.
Okay.
Alright.
I'll catch you next week.
Perfect.
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