June 8, 2025 • 56 mins
What begins as a casual podcast episode transforms into a profound spiritual journey after a listener shares her devastating story of loss. Twenty years ago, her 11-year-old son was killed in a shooting accident, and since then, her family has experienced what she describes as the devil's continued work in their lives – including miscarriages, health issues, and generational struggles that seem almost supernatural in their timing and nature.
The hosts respond with remarkable vulnerability, exploring the very real spiritual warfare many of us face without fully recognizing it. "If you think the devil's on top of you, then you better get the Lord on top of you," one host observes, cutting straight to the heart of how we navigate life's darkest moments. This statement becomes the touchstone for a wide-ranging conversation about faith, evil, and the unseen forces that shape our experiences.
From there, the conversation ventures into fascinating territory – ancient biblical texts, giants who once walked the earth, angels who interacted with humans, and how these stories connect to modern spiritual struggles. The hosts skillfully weave between theological depth and practical wisdom, making complex spiritual concepts accessible through storytelling and personal reflection. They discuss the Book of Enoch, the Nephilim, and other biblical accounts often overlooked in conventional religious discussion.
What makes this episode particularly compelling is its unflinching look at human nature. The hosts break down how people operate from either selfishness or active malice, describing how "the tyranny of evil men" manifests in everyday interactions. Their candid admissions about their own battles with negative thinking patterns (what one calls "neurosis") creates an intimate connection with listeners facing similar struggles.
The episode concludes with a soul-stirring rendition of "Amazing Grace," perfectly encapsulating the journey from spiritual bondage to freedom through faith. Whether you're wrestling with personal tragedy, questioning the nature of good and evil, or simply seeking deeper spiritual understanding, this conversation offers both comfort and challenge for the journey ahead. Join us for an episode that might just change how you view the spiritual dimensions of your own life story.
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Zack (00:01):
And with those baby blue eyes and that smile that's mine.
This year, well, she turnedthree.
You better grab a hold ofsomething close up and grab a
hold of you and don't ask aquestion if you can't take the
(00:23):
truth, cause it might be aquestion and you can't take the
truth Because it might be areflection of you.
I said it might be a reflectionof you Coming to you live from
the old, abandoned ChillicotheHospital in Chillicothe, texas.
(00:44):
This is the B to the E, to the Zand that is Be Easy.
Be Easy, baby.
Give me that Check one.
Earl (00:55):
That's the part you need.
Zack (00:58):
Give me that, give me that .
Bucky (01:01):
Man, I used to love this album, right here.
Earl (01:04):
There's a bunch on there.
Zack (01:05):
There is a lot you still can't hear nothing, zach, or you
got that fixed.
I can hear it, I just don'thear it.
Earl (01:10):
There's so much of that that I still don't like to
listen to.
We need to see what.
Zack (01:13):
Earl's microphone is.
Earl (01:14):
We need to turn this shit down.
Boy, I'd be loud.
Well, I'm up in it today.
Zack (01:20):
Hey check one hell.
Yeah, oh, you're good.
Are we talking about the samething?
Earl (01:24):
no, but that album, for all the crude and stuff on it,
you know that easy.
Yeah, it's got some killer basslines and shit, oh yeah, music
on it.
It's like the way they sampledit and the shit they put
together, it's like crazy.
Zack (01:35):
That's why I like yeah I know I like the music more
effective.
Yeah, but the word you know alot of it's like, it's like that
song.
Earl (01:41):
That song is crazy.
But there's some other shitthat's like damn, it's probably,
but anyway.
Nah, that's why he put shittogether the bass lines, the
shit, the undertone.
Okay, let's see if we can hearthis.
What is it going?
Some feedback?
Oh yeah, go for that.
You're ready to hear this zachyeah, I'm listening feedback
from uh, so not listening up.
(02:00):
Listening to your podcast today with Sharon, I just want
to tell Zach or you guys youknow, about the devil being on
you.
It's kind of crazy.
It's been for me 20 years thisMay.
It was the day after school gotout for the summer and my
(02:23):
11-year-old son, hisstep-grandfather on my husband's
side was just being stupid andshot him and then didn't call
911.
Instead they loaded him up andbrought him to me in the car.
Anyway, it's been 20 years andJosh is my oldest son.
(02:47):
Both of them I had there when Ilived in Chillicothe there in
Vernon when he got.
Well, they're only a year apartand whenever Josh has any kind
of milestone, it's hard.
(03:09):
Even when Josh got married.
Ellen Gilbert, I have otherchildren.
Zack (03:12):
That's who it is.
(03:13):
And you know Zach was talking about trying to be happy.
I'm always trying to be happy,but I'm always feeling guilty
too.
But you know, it's been 20years and I mainly just have to
think about him as his presenttime and not dwell on him not
(03:36):
being here.
But I wanted to say that one ofthe sad things that's happened
to my oldest son, joshua him andJeremiah was only a year and a
half 15 months apart is when himand his wife got married, they
had a miscarriage on the sameday that Jeremiah died the
(03:58):
anniversary of A few years.
Earl (04:04):
What happened?
(04:06):
A few years later they had a little girl and she was fine.
And then they had a secondlittle girl in 2020.
And they didn't tell me tillthe day she was born.
But they decided to name herand honor Jeremiah, so they
named her Maya.
So her name is Maya Grace andanyway she was born.
Everything we thought was great.
(04:28):
But she had to go back to thehospital in a day and if you
ever get on my Facebook orwhatever, I don't know if we're
friends, but now we're goinginto three years and she's got a
lot of issues.
She's got a lot of.
She has a feeding tube and itjust she's got a lot of issues,
she's got a lot of, she has afeeding tube, and it just
bothers me, it hurts me that hername is Maya and I think it's
(04:51):
the devil, you know, justworking on my mind like that.
I love her and she's great,she's wonderful and me and her
are real close, but it's justlike another, as Zach's saying,
like you know, the devil is justby.
Anyway, I just want to tell Zachyou know, I know what you're
going through, zach, and I justwant to tell you it's just,
(05:15):
there's not anything you can say, like you said.
Zack (05:17):
It never gets better.
(05:19):
I've been thinking about you and your mom, your family.
I love your mom and back inhigh school we had the same
birthday and me and her talk onFacebook or used to.
So y'all been in my prayers andI think about y'all a lot and I
think this podcast is awesome.
Anyway, I hope y'all have agreat day.
Talk to y'all later, bye, bye.
This was a message, yeah that'spretty cool, I want to clarify I
(05:41):
don't hate that her name isMaya.
I feel like the fact that wenamed her Maya, we Cursed her.
It's as if we set that up forthe devil to attack her.
I guess is what I meant.
So I just wanted to clarifythat.
It's not that I hate her namebeing Maya after Jeremiah.
(06:04):
I just thought how that mighthave sounded terrible.
But anyway, I think maybe y'allunderstand what I'm trying to
say.
Zack (06:12):
Thanks.
Earl (06:13):
Ma.
Zack (06:13):
Damn.
I mean there's just some thingsthat can't be explained, and
that's one of them right there.
I mean that's a lot, that's alot.
I mean that's terrible lot,don't go trying.
(06:25):
That's a lot.
I mean, that's terrible.
Zack (06:26):
That's generational cursing.
Earl (06:28):
You know that's a Well we was talking about Gilberts and
stuff, talking about Bradley.
Zack (06:36):
She was kin to him.
Yes, that's like first cousin.
Earl (06:38):
I think she's a first cousin, yeah, so anyway, I don't
know, I don't know about that.
Zack (06:46):
Maybe we so, uh, anyway, I don't know.
I don't know about that, butmaybe we need to talk to her
about that.
We already have that wrote downalready, a bradley gilbert
episode.
Earl (06:50):
Yeah well we did, yeah, we talked about.
We talked about that, becausewe could talk about several
people that knew a differentperspective and we could talk
about that for weeks.
Zack (06:58):
Dude, yeah, probably a lot , yeah, yeah I don't think we
want to do it consecutively I'veheard, I've heard some crazy
shit about that, like leads andshit.
Oh yeah that they assumed youknow what I'm saying.
Yeah, but some of that was wecan't Right.
Earl (07:14):
You probably get yeah, we got it off.
Zack (07:15):
Yeah, they probably come arrest us.
Earl (07:17):
Well, we're eventually going to piss somebody off.
Oh yeah, it's going to happen.
It's going to piss somebody off, oh yeah, it's done that.
Zack (07:23):
It's done that.
You ain't wrong.
I down there pissed my wife off.
Earl (07:26):
Oh, that happened a long time ago didn't it?
Zack (07:28):
Yeah, what'd you say this time?
Why didn't I cut out for you?
Earl (07:32):
It's been up and down.
There it is, Chris.
It's all your fault.
It's my fault.
Zack (07:39):
It's up and down, isn't it , Chris?
You'd have never heard it.
That's the best way.
That is the truth.
Where's?
my five.
The gain on five has got to godown.
Check one.
That's good right there.
Thank you, I was a cracklingand a popping.
Not like I is when I get out ofbed in the morning, because it's
my old shit.
I know I have stairs at myhouse Not my friend.
(08:02):
I can see how they couldn't besometimes Either way up or down.
Either way, at least you knowif you fall down the stairs
you're not going to bite throughyour lip.
(08:10):
Yeah.
Zack (08:14):
Break my eyeball or something.
I'm right there with you, I'mtelling you oh man, I'm ready
for mine.
I'm dead serious dude.
Earl (08:21):
Oh yeah, Much better.
Zack (08:24):
Yeah, it's got to be.
I need to quit giving you ahard time.
I'm going to give you a complexNext thing you know Chris won't
even talk.
I'll just sit here all night.
Nah, fuck that, Fuck that.
You don't see it you can't takeit.
Earl (08:34):
You should in the mid-morning.
Zack (08:35):
Give me a goddamn minute.
No, that was pretty deep.
(08:42):
That was pretty deep, that was a lot, that was decent.
Earl (08:44):
I'm surprised that's what?
Zack (08:46):
That's pretty good yeah.
It was real good, that was notabout God so much, but the devil
.
Just the devil.
Earl (08:52):
What he does.
Well, but why?
Zack (08:54):
How it works in your life, oh man.
God sees.
Well, you talked about it, yeah.
Earl (09:01):
Yeah, like I said, it's how it works in your life.
It's how you work it out andhow it works into you.
Zack (09:07):
Boy, if ever in your life that you need the Lord, that is
a person that needs the Lord.
I mean really, If you think thedevil's on top of you, then you
better get the Lord on top ofyou.
Earl (09:16):
Yeah, because he will take you.
You ain't wrong.
Yeah, you're right.
He'll take you down.
Yeah, he'll take you down.
Zack (09:21):
Yeah, a little bit at a time, or a lot you know.
Quick, he can do it it tooksome of ours quick and he's
working on taking my mind, buthe's been working on that for
years.
Yeah, out of mind.
He's taking your eyesight rightnow, son of a.
(09:41):
You know that's right, you know.
Earl (09:44):
Well, I don't know who it is, but frustration, I think
that's just.
Zack (09:46):
It's kind of a blast, you know it's well, it's the thing
that wears on you old age.
Call it whatever you want.
Earl (09:51):
It's like a thing that frustrates you.
Zack (09:52):
It works on you.
I mean, I lost.
I lost my kids, I lost my pinky.
Then they tell me that I mighthave glaucoma and I'm losing my
vision.
What else can I lose?
You know what I'm saying.
Do you need a kidney?
You know they're in bad shape,but you can have one.
I'll guarantee you'd be drunkwhen you wake up.
They'll be like no, we don'tneed.
(10:12):
Yeah, you'd be drunk.
Zack (10:14):
Only person gets a kidney transplant, wakes up drunk, what
the fuck you know?
Or anyway, that's how it is.
Sorry, sorry, hey beggars can'tbe choosers.
Earl (10:27):
You know what I mean.
Zack (10:28):
Hey, if you're on a kidney transplant list and you need a
kidney.
You beggars can't be choosers.
I mean oh, it's terrible.
Oh man, I mean, choose yourpoison.
I know that's right.
Earl (10:42):
You're right.
Zack (10:46):
We're not recording what are we doing?
Yeah, we are.
That's some great shit.
Earl (10:51):
That's what you say, that's probably some soundbites.
Yeah, some shorts.
Zack (10:57):
It's true, I wrote a.
I wrote a.
This was started writing theother day and I wrote Talking
about it's hard to keep a.
It's hard to keep up with thisfake smile of mine.
Anyway, I wrote several that Idon't play.
(11:19):
I walk around this houselooking down for fear of what I
might see on the walls.
You sang that for her.
Earl (11:28):
Yeah, you sang that for her, I did.
Yeah, I think so.
Zack (11:31):
It's not for me.
Earl (11:32):
I don't think, nobody else , I don't remember.
Zack (11:33):
I think he's in my yard.
I think he's in my yard.
Earl (11:35):
I think he's in my yard in the porch.
Zack (11:37):
Yeah, I forgot about that, this one.
I just wrote Some of it.
Coming back from Wichita whenthey told me I had glaucoma oh
wait, I can't read it now mymama told me so many times you
need to stop that or you'll goblind.
Put it away, boy, put it away.
(11:59):
That's nice of you, justkidding.
I forgot what I wrote.
And I'm blind.
You just can't read it.
It's big dude, it's wrote.
One letter per page.
Earl (12:15):
I'm going to have to do it real fast.
Zack (12:17):
This is the process.
Everybody might steal myprocess of how to ride.
It's just you know, it's good,they can figure it out they can
follow it.
That's the podcast Close.
Take some practice.
That's the common question.
To be honest with you, amen,and my answer's always the same
or how are you that's?
How you doing I'm here, youknow, that's all the answer
(12:38):
always has I'm here barely well.
Earl (12:42):
Sometimes I am sometimes I'm not qualified sometimes I
don't want to be.
Zack (12:50):
Yeah, I'm beat.
See, I think that people behumming that at work, yeah yeah,
man I catch people all timesinging that loves barbecue john
.
And I said I said yeah, I meanI.
I said who was I telling thatto?
I said yeah, hey.
I said jimmy, maybe it wasjimmy, I can't remember that and
I said I need to write anotherone.
(13:11):
I don't know you can top thatone.
Yeah, that was pretty good.
I said well, I think you can.
Earl (13:16):
You just don't know me.
That set me down right by.
Zack (13:18):
Hank Williams.
And they said I want you towrite a song about this.
Hank Williams stole it from meto be honest with you.
You know your cheating heart.
Yeah, he went into the bigrecording studio.
They said how do we know thatyour hillbilly ass wrote this
shit?
Okay, well, give me a topic.
And they wrote a topic.
He said okay, you see your wifewalking down the street with
(13:40):
another man okay and they wentand had him.
We're gonna go have a cup ofcoffee that's what they called a
cup of coffee back then to gethim signed.
Uh, no, but uh, and actually hewrote that song.
By the time he got back he hadthat whole song.
Yeah, he's a bad man, butanyway he's one of those people
that was not of this earth,right?
(14:01):
Some people are Prince Elvis,michael Jackson.
Earl (14:04):
There wasn't many of them, guys, extraordinary yes,
absolutely correct.
Zack (14:09):
Extraordinary Elvis Presley, for sure, crazy.
I didn't even used to likeElvis, but but elvis I don't
necessarily either.
Earl (14:17):
I think he was exploited a lot of things, but he is the
king real yeah watch elvis invegas.
Zack (14:22):
Y'all, y'all understand why they call him the king.
Earl (14:24):
Real quick well, it's just already like his talent to have
his voice, and then they didn'tlet him out.
Whenever he did do what hewanted like like trying to write
stuff and be creative and stufflike that they didn't let him.
Zack (14:35):
Well, yeah, he's the only man that can actually take a
hymnal and change the words toit, and he did.
Earl (14:41):
Well, that's right, he was a gospel singer.
Peace in the Valley, dude.
He was already.
That's what he was, because hehad always come from that.
He was a gospel singer, anyway.
Zack (14:51):
See, that's how I was going to end it, that's how I
was going to say Instead of beeasy baby, it's going to be
tattooed, bearded and crazy.
Earl (15:01):
I like that.
I'm not offended, dude.
I'll tell you what that waslike, a while back too, that I
was trying to remove that wordfrom my mouth and stuff like
that.
You know what I mean.
Zack (15:10):
I was working on shit.
I told you to remove certainthings, yeah.
Earl (15:13):
I had to.
It's a practice.
It's a practice Of doing things, and that was one of them I was
trying to do Because I feltoffended, exactly, and I felt
Not offended.
(15:22):
But you know what?
What is it called?
Zack (15:24):
No, no, no, but it's not offended.
Earl (15:26):
It's what they call it.
They call it like a stigma,like a Like there's a view on
you.
Zack (15:31):
That's, it's a it's a stigma.
Earl (15:35):
Well, yeah, you know what I mean.
Like people got this idea of it.
Zack (15:38):
That's right.
You know, just because I dodrugs doesn't mean I'm a
crackhead.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Earl (15:44):
But yeah, you know.
But I know Some people thinkthe boy still do drugs.
Oh, he's crazy, he's riding on.
Zack (15:50):
Rodolf Yep.
Earl (15:51):
You've been to jail, you're a judge, you're a
terrible person.
There you are with me.
Well, I mean, but for differentreasons We'll be judged for the
rest of our lives.
You're right, especially in asmall town in Texas.
Turn me up a little bit.
Well, because it's easy doingit in a small town, you got less
judges.
Zack (16:07):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Earl (16:10):
Probably so.
But we're right, we're notwrong.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Zack (16:15):
My dad called me paranoid.
One time I hurt my feelingsworse than him.
I'd be terrible, terrible.
Why?
Earl (16:21):
Because I was paranoid yeah, I know I'm too.
Zack (16:24):
I don't think it's a that shit.
Don't go away though.
Earl (16:26):
No, that's what I'm saying .
It just intensified it, youknow what I choose, what to be
paranoid about I was outside andI was like hey Dad.
Zack (16:32):
I said you see that right there.
You see that star, that ain'tno star, that's the eye in the
sky.
He looked at me and said Goddamn, boy paranoid.
They were out on the back porchafter I went to a vacation and
they were out on the back deckand Shane Shannon and my dad,
they were all drinking.
He was like hey Dad, look upthere.
(17:00):
If dad zach was here you'd saythat was look at that, that's
the eye in the sky.
And they started laughing.
That fucking eye, that old star, went and flew directly over.
Yeah, my brother said, I willnever doubt what you say again.
Earl (17:07):
Yeah, well, I mean it's a thing, there's a word you know,
neurotic or neurosis.
I mean you go with a negativething.
It's hard not to be that waythat you run off in a circle of
negativity?
Yeah, don't you call me.
That's what it did.
No, I have the same problem,dude.
It's neurosis.
You're neurotic of the liver?
Well, that's something elsethat's how something different.
Zack (17:28):
You can cause that but no, there's people.
Earl (17:30):
It's that way.
It's hard to fight.
Zack (17:31):
It's the thing you gotta.
Earl (17:33):
The negative thinking and stuff, and that's what they call
it.
They call it that Neurosis,neurotic.
You tend to run away in acircle of your thoughts, do?
Zack (17:41):
you not, hey, you do that too, Bucky right.
Earl (17:47):
I don't mind you have negative thoughts and they run
that even more all the time.
Zack (17:51):
Yeah, but there's, I mean, you see it, that's what they're
doing though yeah neurosis yeahof the liver, but anyway,
erotic I mean, it's true, I meanit's not erotic, you start
neurotic you know, you gettalked about so much and you
start taking things personal ornot even talked about so much
you start feeling guilty, somuch about things that you've
(18:13):
done, then you really starttaking so personal like you know
me, for example uh, we're gonnaleave that out.
Let's say I thought this wasbest to get deep.
Yeah, boy, I could get deep onit I thought it was about to do
that.
Earl (18:26):
Just ask me, I was feeling it.
I was feeling what she saidthat's what she said, she didn't
say that it's a
Zack (18:33):
short struggle, I'm going to get in trouble Did she?
Earl (18:37):
lie to you.
Hey what, I don't care she lied.
Zack (18:39):
It didn't hurt my feelings , she lied.
Earl (18:41):
I know that's what she was doing.
She was trying to pump you up,right?
Then I was almost getting somewicked air.
Yeah, you can still air that Iyou know what I'm saying.
Zack (18:52):
That's what I'm saying she messaged something about oh,
it's so awesome Y'all can saywhat's on your mind.
I'm like, hey, I don't thinkyou want to always know what's
on our mind, don't open thatdoor.
We won't be talking about howmany.
Earl (19:04):
Biting my lip right now.
Zack (19:09):
Oh, two boys standing up on bridges.
The water sure is cold deep too.
She's there, she's cool people.
Yeah, her whole family are coolpeople.
No, yeah, that's no shit youever seen her dance?
She is one.
Her and her husband are dancingfools, boy.
They should have been on TVDancing with the stars For real.
I mean they could.
I'm dancing.
I mean talk dancing fools.
Interesting Things you justdon't know about your teacher.
(19:37):
That could be Things you don'tknow about your teacher.
Earl (19:42):
Time out.
Zack (19:43):
We're going to take a time out.
Earl (19:44):
There was a day and age this show must be paused for
middle prosperity.
Break.
Zack (19:50):
Middle prosperity.
Earl (19:51):
There was a time and a day and age For that, but that time
has passed.
Zack (19:56):
Yeah.
Earl (19:58):
Shoot.
The day and age Is no more.
Zack (19:59):
Sometimes, hey, until you get it over with, sometimes
it'll never pass.
Earl (20:02):
Well, I hear that that's why, you gotta keep back.
That's why.
That's why people questionthese things like podcasts, when
we don't bring shit up.
Zack (20:11):
Jerry Luke said Baby, careful what you say.
Zach put it on his podcast.
I started laughing no shit.
I want to thank Sumner Colleen,jerry Luke Smoker for proudly
listening to Be Easy, be EasyPodcast that means, they listen,
that's exactly right.
Oh, and she told me how shereally she thanked me and to
tell y'all, thank you forgetting Sharon on here, you know
(20:31):
, because they're cousins.
Earl (20:32):
Yeah.
Zack (20:33):
All right yeah.
Earl (20:34):
Well, that's kind of a.
Zack (20:38):
And she said I'll never forget what your daddy talking
to me, what my daddy said thenight of the Draper's viewing of
the four, whatever what, did hesay.
He said I just can't imagineand I hope something like that
(20:58):
never happens to me.
Earl (21:02):
Well, you can't imagine that dude.
Zack (21:04):
Nobody can imagine it.
No, that's surprising.
Don't want to Hell, no.
Earl (21:08):
It's haunting that she remembers that.
You know what I mean.
I don't know what else to sayabout it.
Zack (21:13):
Some people only I'm like that remember certain things
about honing on that one thingit's connected I just can't
remember how things can beconnected in so many different
ways.
Earl (21:25):
Well, they are everything's interwoven in a way
you can't even imagine it's amatter as well.
It's a matter of you findingthose ways that are connected
and discovering that and how youknow what I mean.
It's hard matter of you findingthose ways that are connected
and discovering that and how youknow what I mean.
It's hard to do ahead of time.
Zack (21:37):
You know it's like it's impossible.
So many of my songs that Iwrote way before apply so much
to what my situation is now.
Earl (21:46):
But you didn't do that when you wrote them.
Huh, you weren't applying itwhen you wrote them.
Oh no, Hell no.
Zack (21:55):
Wouldn't have thought in my mind like that.
Earl (21:56):
But right, you know, but I mean it's like uh, so many
songs have been like, damn,that's well, that's with a lot
of the materials.
That way, dude, it comes, itchanges over time, whether you
change you didn't change or notbut it changes to you as you
revisit the meaning.
Maybe you know.
Well, it's like the bible, dude.
People read it over and over,right.
I mean how many people read it?
But you read it over and over,right?
I mean how many people haveread it?
But you read it again.
You get something different outof it.
Zack (22:17):
Yeah, every time.
Earl (22:18):
Because it speaks to you different as you are different.
That's right, I found out too.
They call it the big book.
It's the blue book or whateverfor AA.
It's got these stories ofpeople and I tell you it's crazy
, that way too, dude, I'd readit and I'd read it some months
later, after I've read someother shit, and it reads
different, like it don't meannothing to you, and then it does
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, or vice versa, it meanssomething different.
It's crazy.
You just gotta do it over andover the same shit.
That don't seem like you oughtto do that, but I tell you what
the Bible's the ultimate of thatas far as you read it, you
don't know what it means.
It comes to you later, or itcomes to you different, it's
like totally, totally differentpoint of view.
It's like I didn't even thinkthat, or you know, it extracts
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you it's, it's a it's.
Zack (23:00):
That's why, as part of that's just part of the magic
book.
It's magic, I mean really.
I mean we've talked about thatbefore about that's the only way
to really get through this life.
Oh man, yeah, but please,please, believe in.
Earl (23:14):
If you don't believe, seek help well, yeah, there you go,
find it yeah, you have to seekit.
Zack (23:22):
But you have to seek it, that's right, you call me up,
I'll help you out, yeah we'llhelp you seek it I'm dead what
was that one?
Earl (23:28):
you had one called fisher a man what was that?
Zack (23:30):
that's.
We talked about the same stuff,yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,
like I said, I've got a best one.
I talked about how?
Same stuff, that kind of stuff.
What was it?
What came out?
Yeah, you know, like I said,I've got a best one.
I talk about giving people aride from my house being broke
down and stuff.
Earl (23:39):
Yeah, yeah, that's all you can do.
Sometimes you've got to be outthere and sometimes they find
you.
Zack (23:44):
Yeah Right, absolutely.
Earl (23:46):
A lot of times that you don't do it bad things happen.
Zack (23:58):
Yeah, you know, I say that , you know, and I asked
specifically and he answered itand I walked out of there and
blew it off.
Like you know, I still didn't,and then Well, you ain't the
only one dude.
Earl (24:13):
I think there's things we're all.
Zack (24:14):
If it was like you know if it could be.
You know, do as I say, not as Ido.
Earl (24:19):
Yeah, that might apply, we all do shit like that.
Oh yeah, I'm just saying it'shard to do that, dude.
I think I said that too Like asfar as I can always figure out
somebody.
You know, I'm not saying thatarrogantly or whatever.
But I but uh but I can.
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You know what I mean.
I can't figure out my own shit.
I know it.
They call it.
I've seen that it's called asearchlight soul.
You're the, you're the beacon.
You can tell people.
They come to you even.
Yeah.
But you know what?
You can't fix your shit fornothing.
Nathan Red alert.
Nathan Interesting.
Zack (24:57):
I mean, that's for real, You're exactly right about that.
Like moths to a flame.
Earl (25:03):
But that's a lot of people .
Zack (25:04):
That's a deep Because people want to believe.
I mean people.
Earl (25:08):
I believe that about a lot of stuff, man.
As far as I've seen people inother positions of that.
Zack (25:11):
I mean, as I've seen people in other positions of
that, I mean I've got.
Did I talk about one of that?
Does that episode talk aboutwhen the girls had COVID, when
we had COVID?
That's a good episode, I think.
Earl (25:19):
I think that was a.
Zack (25:20):
God, one that would probably be one of that probably
needs to be put on there.
Earl (25:23):
It's coming up.
Yeah yeah, I'm just kind ofworking through.
That's what I was looking attoday.
He sent me how we need to donext and when.
Zack (25:30):
I get to talk about God.
I go to rambling, so you mightthink I'm Jerry Lee Lewis.
Well, you know what I'm saying.
I had some people talk.
They liked when you talkedabout that.
Yeah, I've had lots of peopleask me why I'm not talking about
that.
Well In time, yeah, oh, yeah.
Well, just story here and there.
But you know, it's just somethings that you can only put so
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many things off to coincidence.
You know, like I said man, Igot to check on that saying
cause I feel like I'm saying itwrong and the very first thing
when I get home I turn YouTubeon.
That's the very first thingthat was said.
You know it's a first man wasAdam.
Seventh from Adam was Enoch.
Enoch.
I used to say seventh fromEnoch was Methuselah, but that's
not the saying.
(26:12):
I've said it for like yearsbecause that's what I thought I
heard when I was a kid, insteadof going back and looking it up
and seventh man was from Adam,adam's first man.
Obviously.
Seventh man from Adam is Enoch.
Enoch was Methuselah's father.
Methuselah was Noah'sgrandfather, muthu's love was
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noah's right grandfather and youknow, that is if you want to do
.
The time between adam and uhnoah is like thousands yeah,
just within those.
Earl (26:52):
Yeah, because yeah.
Zack (26:54):
But you know, it's a God, told Enoch, when Methuselah dies
, I'm destroying the world.
And that's why he letMethuselah live so long.
It's because he loved us somuch.
He just kept giving us chancesand chances to change.
And so when Methuselah died,methuselah's name means it's a
phrase.
People's names used to be inphrases.
It's like break it down to ourlanguage, the Hibbili.
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It says his death shall bring.
And he died seven days beforethe great flood.
And he was the only one tellingNoah the crazy man that hey,
build an ark.
And it's never even rained onthe face of the earth.
It's been raining, hey buildingan ark, and it's never even
rained on the face of the earth.
It never rained, the heavenswill rain from above.
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Water's from above and water'sbelow.
It never rained it just the dewwas so thick it would go from
there every morning and comeback down.
It wasn't, yeah, that's why itwas even crazier.
It's like a real fact.
Earl (27:52):
I know that's what people don't even understand.
He was saying it was going torain and this was coming.
You know how many people didn'tbelieve him Because it didn't
rain before that.
Zack (27:59):
Yeah, that's why.
That's why.
What do you mean rain?
He's never seen that so muchwater is going to come out of
the sky.
Are you crazy?
They're not going to stop.
And that's what happened.
And they were begging to get onthat ship.
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They tried to get on it, matter of fact, that's why he
locked it.
Zack (28:16):
It was locked up.
He had to keep the bloodlineback pure, as we know.
That's it for real.
That's exactly what happened.
It's like doubt you, peasants.
There were too many recessivegenes of angels.
Genesis 1, verse 6, nehahBaalah.
Elohim could not resist thedaughters of the sons of man.
Therefore, they went in andwhat came from them was the
great warriors of old.
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And if you don't believe thatgiants didn't used to walk the
face of the earth, you bettercheck again.
In 2014, seymour, texas, was an18-foot skeleton found.
They did the math he weighed2,500 pounds.
It was in the paper one day,then just disappeared.
Look.
Earl (28:50):
I don't look it up.
There you go, put it out there,look it up.
Zack (28:53):
So if you don't believe that there was giants on the
face of the earth, you're wrong.
When he sent Israelites intothe Philistines' camps and to
see what they were, to send twospies and they came back and
they said we are meregrasshoppers to their men.
They really meant we are meregrasshoppers to their big-ass
giants, I mean people likepeople.
You can take what the Biblesays.
(29:14):
I don't know, that's not what that meant.
Earl (29:16):
But in that case, it's what it meant they did.
There's some other stuff theyignore from that time.
They find bones and stuff likethat, other from the Philistines
and stuff like that.
They ignore it.
They're like, okay, yeah.
Zack (29:28):
World War I was basically a cover up for going and digging
up every giant that was buriedin the face of the earth, in
Europe's continent andeverything else.
Did you know during World War I?
That's what they did.
They went and dug up all thesemounds.
They started digging on thesemounds because you don't bury a
giant back in the day, you putdirt on top of them.
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Because who wants to bury thatand dig that big asshole?
Earl (29:52):
You know what I'm saying.
How dare they?
Zack (29:55):
You're trying to have the conspiracy.
I'm telling you right there,man, that is, don't get me
started, I know.
That's one that is a that's ayou know I'm a firm believer.
That's kind of crazy.
Yeah, no, no, but there was.
There was other stuff.
Greek mythology.
Earl (30:08):
They have other stuff.
As far is like it was justcommon knowledge that they've
tried to bury okay so there'sevidence, like I said, there's
bones and everything else.
Zack (30:17):
It was like well, you know it's greek mythology got all
over the.
Uh, it's not a continent,whatever the, the, you know, the
island of greece, or whateverit is well, there was what.
Earl (30:26):
You know what I'm saying greek mythology is.
Zack (30:28):
They used to say there was .
You know it's mythology, butyou know because they worship
zeus and all this other stuff.
Okay, but are you?
telling me back in the day, allover this whole miles and miles
and miles of country, what didthey do?
They watched TV and somebodymade it up.
No bullshit.
Earl (30:45):
Well, they did.
(30:46):
They embellish on that.
Zack (30:48):
There's truth in every just kidding.
Earl (30:51):
They did, but they've proven more and more of that in
every piece you ever heard thatsaying there's always there's
truth.
Zack (30:56):
There's there's truth in every jk.
So motherfucker says somethingto you and says hey, just
kidding, there's truth in theresomewhere.
That's what they did.
But even after hundreds andthousands of years of them
thinking that was bullshit.
Earl (31:07):
Yeah, they had proven more and more of it no, but they had
proven more and more of it,like whatever they were, like oh
oh, Troy was this place.
Well, they went back there andthey're like that shit didn't
happen once.
It happened like I don't knowhow many times over the past.
Things aren't recorded, okay.
Zack (31:19):
So I want you to think of this.
You know, in times ofrevelations, the angel is going
to come.
There's an archangel who'sgoing to come down, up these
angels that have been buried inthe face in the earth and cast
them in the lake of fire.
That's what our bible says.
Okay, now what does greekmythology talk about?
(31:41):
Who's buried in the earth?
Who is it?
The 13 most fierce warriorsever, terrorist kids.
You know what I'm saying.
Blood fell from the sky and she, she became pregnant.
She had 13 of the fiercestwarriors ever.
You know, there is a all theall.
The ancient wonders of theworld were all made by celestial
(32:04):
beings.
Now, you can't make me changemy mind and ain't nobody ever
told me that you know ancientaliens what do?
you call them angels, call themaliens.
I mean, that's the same thing.
Earl (32:13):
Yeah, you're right, you're right, that's what I'm saying
that's uh, it's hard, that'sanother crossover a lot of
people believe that it's likethese were some other celestial
being yeah, they came down hereand they what's the celestial
being?
What's an angel?
Is it not a celestial being?
Is an angel exactly?
Zack (32:32):
but you know, it's like uh , uh, they went.
Therefore, they went into them.
And what came from the greatwords of old?
Therefore, they put genes inthem or eggs in them.
Earl (32:42):
Yeah, Well, there's some other.
There's some lost books of theBible as well that aren't
accepted.
Well, they took Enoch out ofour text, you know.
Enoch's.
In the Hebrew text there's more.
Zack (32:56):
Yeah, there's some other ones too.
They're in hebrew text andthere's some that are neither,
because people don't that, theydon't want you to hear what
enoch had to say, because he,you know, he talks about the
five different heavens and hetalks about how this is for
these the watchers.
Earl (33:04):
He has the watchers absolutely.
Zack (33:06):
That's the nabal hall of.
It was the interbreeding.
Earl (33:09):
It was the interbreeding of angels and people.
Zack (33:11):
That's, you know, that's.
That's all back in methuselah'stime.
God just let that go for a longtime, because he created them
those are, and the rule was youdid not intertwine with.
Earl (33:22):
That's a book.
There's some other book too.
Is he knocking?
Zack (33:25):
there's something else but you know he told you couldn't.
So what happened is, theseangels had kids with the
daughters of the sons of man.
Earl (33:34):
Yeah.
Zack (33:35):
And that's where we learned all our knowledge.
Like he started that this angeland they can even name you the
names in this book.
(33:42):
Right.
Talk about the name of theangels, the angels yes, and this
angel was the one over sorcery.
Zack (33:48):
This one was the one over growing crops.
This one was the one over war.
Some of that yeah.
There's all sorts of stuff andhe punished those, and the
devil's not even the worst angel.
I mean really, yeah, I don'tknow, there's more to the story,
you're right.
Earl (34:06):
There's more to the story and it's hard to say.
Zack (34:09):
And it's hard to grasp.
Earl (34:11):
Well, you're right, you're talking about the Book of Enoch
.
There's more than that too.
There's several other bookslike that that are lost, I mean,
they're not accepted like kingdan's version.
Zack (34:19):
That are right you know the bible does.
You got to pay attention towhat it's talking about.
You know, I can't rememberexactly.
I'll look this up and Ishouldn't even say it before I
get started, but I'm going to.
Okay, there was a person thatwas, uh, picked up by two angels
.
This is the gist of the story.
So he was picked up and he wastaken to different places on
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that, you know, through egyptand all these places that were
miles and miles and miles andmiles apart, and every time he
went to the next place he saidhe was physically unable to
speak, or you know, you know,and, uh, he's talking about
being on a ship.
How they hit, how he wentteleport, not teleported.
But it's just the words thatare said make you think that
they picked him up, put him inthe ship.
(35:00):
Hey, let's go.
Let me show you something youknow, let's go gone magic carpet
ride yeah yeah, I would like totake one of them, as long as
they brought me back yeah, right, wait a minute, you leave me
here and if they just give mesome of that, hey what?
I don't know what's the ridecost A little probing.
Earl (35:18):
You know what I'm saying.
That's what I'm talking about.
Should I?
Zack (35:21):
be a guinea pig.
Come on, take me up.
I just want to see.
Just let me see.
I think that's happened morethan once.
Yeah, we get stuck talkingabout this.
Earl (35:31):
Men in black, here we go, don't get me started.
No, yeah, I'm a believer inthat as well.
That's as big a weird thing as,like I said, magic carpet.
That's a way of explainingthings that you can't put into
words.
Zack (35:41):
Yeah, absolutely, and you think that's crazy.
People say this time on theface of the earth is the worst
time ever.
That's bullshit.
Always, everyone, bullshit takea glimpse, everyone take a
glimpse into the old testamentand then you tell me that again.
How about you go live five daysin the old testament times and
tell me that it's worse now thanit was in well?
Earl (35:59):
how do you?
Zack (36:00):
it's like turn it in your head.
Earl (36:01):
It's like it's always gonna be what's going.
You can't figure out what'sgoing on now sodom and gomorrah,
you know well, I tell you whata lot of people don't realize.
There's times, yeah, that's,you'll come back to, like that.
I think people don't realize.
What was going on then was thesame kind of thing, but there
was like, yeah, they'll putspecifics.
There was debauchery that thiswas going on and this was going
(36:22):
on and people, I don't know itsounds like a Vegas town, you
know what.
Zack (36:25):
I mean Like they were gambling Sodom and Gomorrah,
there was all kinds of stuff.
Earl (36:28):
I mean, they talk there was a Roman town.
Zack (36:30):
that was all for gambling in the head.
It was on the island, ohthere's more than one.
Earl (36:33):
Yeah, there's been some, it's the?
Zack (36:35):
when did the mount?
Whatever blew up and the lavacame down on the town Pompeii.
Pompeii was.
That was what that was for.
It was for all the rich folks,all the what's it called?
Earl (36:48):
It was the city, it was the urbanization.
Zack (36:51):
It was like who's the guy that held the island is?
That's, what's the signeinstein, or yeah yeah, what's
his name?
Uh, epstein, epstein, wellthat's what people think.
Sophistication and yeah itgives you that uh image of that
I mean, come on, the romans onlykilled jesus.
Well, they didn't, we stilldraw?
Earl (37:09):
on them.
As far as there's there, theywere the way that told us the
society catholic church, don'tthink about this that combined.
Zack (37:16):
That's a combination of things yeah, it's scary and
think about that well we'regoing to kill your god, but then
we're going to believe.
Earl (37:20):
You know they combined a couple things there that we
could get, that's a whole.
Oh yeah, you're gonna pisspeople.
Yeah, we don't want to getreally too much religion.
Zack (37:28):
I mean, we believe what?
We believe in that's right,that's right.
Absolutely.
I not knocking anybody'sreligion.
All religions lead back to thesame thing.
Yeah, you know there was a howyou get there.
(37:38):
Six.
There were six.
What was the?
Zack (37:40):
Yeah, I mean I that.
Earl (37:45):
You're talking about the Catholic Church, though.
That's hard, no, no, no, Ididn't mean it by lying, I was
just.
I try not to say nothing badabout them, but I'm not Catholic
.
Zack (37:53):
Pontius Pilate, you know what that means.
Earl (37:56):
You know what Catholic means Catholic.
Catholic means universal.
It's the universal church.
It was the first church.
It was the church brought aboutby the apostles.
I don't think it's perfect.
Some people can't get away fromthat.
You understand, and Iunderstand that.
Zack (38:11):
Oh, there we go, keep talking about it and I
understand that.
Earl (38:15):
Oh, there we go, keep talking about it.
I know, I know, here we go.
Okay, yeah, shit, yeah, I don'tget that.
Zack (38:18):
You did that.
I know I can do it quick.
I'm telling you right now, butthe thing is, it's, it's, it's
the.
I'm incorrigible, okay here'sthe deal.
Here's the deal really thecertain people in this world
will never believe anything orthey'll believe everything.
Okay, see what I'm saying.
So those people are usually thesame person because for real
(38:38):
think about it.
They're only going to believewhat the government tells them,
and they believe everything thatthe government tells you You're
right.
Earl (38:44):
Hey, no, that's a problem.
Zack (38:46):
I mean, that's it.
Earl (38:47):
That's a problem that I have.
How do you?
Zack (38:49):
think you can make me believe that 1947 in Roswell,
new Mexico.
Earl (38:55):
I'm telling you that is the beginning of our era, right
now.
Yeah, there's a basic flaw.
Remember when you were talkingabout the greatest deception the
devil ever pulled off?
Zack (39:04):
Making everybody believe he didn't exist Exactly.
Earl (39:08):
That's like a government conspiracy.
You know, One Nation Under God.
One Nation Under God is one ofthe biggest.
Zack (39:14):
But therefore, then we take it out of the schools, come
on come on.
Earl (39:17):
Well, I know, because they have you, they have most.
Zack (39:20):
Most people they don't have you but they have most
people believing it used to beone.
This is one nation under god,but right now, god we trust, do
you know you'll never find apolitician that's not crooked.
I mean, look at pelosi's got tobe a demon I, I don't say that
lie.
Earl (39:33):
Pelosi is a demon, every one of them.
I don't care what side they'reon, that's what it is.
Zack (39:38):
That's what it is it's self-interest.
Earl (39:40):
You know the path of the righteous man.
The righteous, you know what Imean.
He's beset on two sides.
Yeah, one side is the selfish.
The selfish are going to do.
They don't try to hurt you, butthey're doing their own thing
and they're trying to get theirthing.
The other side is the tyrannyof evil men.
There are people that aretrying to do wrong.
(40:02):
There are mean people, and there are selfish people Can you
put?
Earl (40:05):
yourself in the path between them.
That's what your point is To me.
That's what God asked us to do.
Can you not be this person?
Can you not be that person?
Can you walk the line?
Zack (40:17):
That's the line.
The road to hell is paved withgood intentions.
Earl (40:20):
That's true too, but do you understand what I mean?
That's as simple as that.
All these people are eitherbeing selfish or they're just
trying to be flat-out evil.
Zack (40:29):
Yeah, man.
Earl (40:30):
The tyranny of evil men.
Zack (40:32):
Yes, absolutely, they know what they're doing.
I'm going to give you myopinion on people.
I'm going to say it real quickIf a person says something to
you y'all being you, who's everlistening intentionally to hurt
you, if they say thatintentionally to cause you pain,
that person you better believeis evil yes, what's the gospel?
(40:56):
I mean peace harmony.
You do unto others as you wantand you're gonna be selfless and
a person that will lie to yourface will rob you blind yes,
because there you go.
Earl (41:06):
They're being either selfish or they want something
from you.
That's right.
Zack (41:09):
Either they want what they want to get from you, or they
just want to be mean to you andsee you suffer exactly there's
so many people out there thatjust just don't like you,
because it's not that, you know,I'm saying, it's not that
complicated.
Earl (41:22):
There's some pretty simple stuff, if you will put it that
way.
It's.
It's not hard to see, andotherwise you're somebody that's
hey, like I said, that's a, youcan call that.
Zack (41:33):
You can call the Bible conspiracy, yeah.
(41:35):
I mean a lot of people do.
Zack (41:37):
Don't believe in it.
Well, I feel sorry for them.
I truly do, and I was like ifyou don't believe in Jesus, I
want you to understand this theripping and tearing of your
flesh from your body, thegnashing of teeth I mean the
gnashing of nails and grittingof teeth for the rest of your
life you won't see nobody.
You won't see no friends,because you know you got friends
(41:58):
out there.
Everybody knows, everybody'sgot that one friend you know is
going to hell.
You're not going to be downthere and see him and give him a
high five.
You're going to hear his assscream in the dark.
You're not going to see anybody.
It's not going to be a partyForever.
Yeah, yeah, it's not going toget down.
Get down, no it's not going tobe a P Diddy party.
It's going to be P Diddy parties, for sure.
You know what I'm saying Ain'tno telling what's going to be
(42:20):
happening to P.
Diddy.
Yeah yeah, that's going tohappen to him.
Future of P Diddy would be like, I guarantee you we should
start that.
We should make our own moviethe Future of P Diddy.
I guarantee we'd go viral.
This might go viral right nowTalking about P Diddy, p Diddy
(42:45):
this, p Diddy that.
Earl (42:47):
You might for PED.
Yeah, you might go to PED.
(42:51):
You know, think about it though.
Zack (42:52):
Who can I even listen to anymore?
R Kelly PEDD.
You know you can't listen tonobody's music without being in
the wrong.
Earl (42:58):
Michael Jackson Damn it.
Zack (43:00):
Hey, you know, Michael Jackson, I don't believe none of
that shit.
I don't think, so you don'tconnect well, I think I don't
think he, I don't think hemolested kids.
I think that truly loved kids,but I don't know.
I mean, I don't know, I thinkthey made him look that way.
I think people can be reallysick and do both to control him.
Earl (43:22):
I think people can really be sick and do both or not even
know it well they can do both.
Like I said, they can be reallyfocused.
(43:29):
They still have these cases.
Earl (43:31):
They, they have individual cases of this shit happening
where they did this and eventhough they were overall.
This People aren't perfect.
Zack (43:41):
People ain't stupid though either.
Earl (43:43):
No, you're right, Michael Jackson was evil.
Zack (43:45):
people that do evil things too, it's that evil person that
let his kids go over there andsay oh look, he's got all the
money in the world.
We're going to send you overthere, son, and say, hey, he
touched me here.
Earl (43:56):
Yeah, but I don't know.
The same way he had this otherupbringing.
He wanted to blame his parentsand these other things I don't
know.
But then there's other peoplethat I want to say that were
like prophets.
Zack (44:08):
I'm just waiting for them to let the Hernandez twins.
No, no, the other one.
Oh, the 500 in South America,900 or something.
Yeah, what was his name?
Jim Jones, jim Jones, jim Jones, jj.
Earl (44:18):
And he was like a prophet before that.
Zack (44:20):
Oh was it JJ.
Earl (44:20):
But if you look back and people didn't know that he was
doing this.
He had the plan from thebeginning he was planning, yes,
but there are people that stillbelieved all along the way.
But you didn't know until theend that it was set up.
Zack (44:37):
You damn bet you, you damn bet you.
Earl (44:39):
I know it's hard to conceive.
You're blinded by the hey howmany?
Zack (44:44):
The devil can come to you, the angel of light people.
Earl (44:47):
I know but how many he comes to?
(44:48):
you as exactly exactly what you need to see at the time.
Zack (44:52):
So don't believe in a dream.
This guy said hey, I want youto go outside and cure yourself
because God's ready for you.
Hey, that's not God, but he'dbeen grooming them for that.
Earl (45:00):
That's right.
He'd been getting them readyfor that Same way with other
cults, but he was one that waslike a mainstream.
He was bringing everybody inwhatever multiracial, absolutely
, anti-racial, absolutely.
He had these people.
Let's go down here in SouthAmerica and we're going to start
a city.
And da, da, da.
Not that everybody was justswept away all the way, but he
had a systemic when you go backand look at it.
Zack (45:21):
Some people just need that when you look at it from the
end.
Yeah, absolutely, I know.
Earl (45:29):
Yeah, yeah, you do, but I mean he wasn't a prophet going
around and he went off thetracks.
Zack (45:33):
Yeah, there's a bunch of those still everywhere he had
the plan.
Earl (45:36):
He had the plan from the beginning.
Zack (45:37):
Absolutely.
Earl (45:37):
He knew he was evil Yep.
Zack (45:39):
He knew what he was doing was what he wanted that reporter
said Jerry Lee, I hope you soldyour soul to the devil.
He said I did.
Next question he didn't evensmile.
Earl (45:49):
he said I did and some other people too.
There's lots of people.
I've seen other people say thatI'm telling you that's a, and
that's a.
Zack (45:55):
That's a, jim Jones that's a.
Earl (45:58):
It's like that's what it is.
That's what it is they knewbecause he knew it from the
start.
He's like hey, or like whatwould you do if you could sell
yourself all for my kids?
And then I know, but I mean, no, no, there's plenty of people,
that's right, that's when youhave them they have an answer
too quick take me.
Zack (46:16):
You know what?
The answer is too quick yeah,take me.
Still take me.
Yeah, it's a, I mean, I wouldn'twell that's no.
Earl (46:24):
No, but do you hear me?
Zack (46:25):
dude.
That would be, that would bethe thing that would that he
could say hold over my head.
Yeah, hey, if you'll do thisfor me, I'll give you kids back.
Oh man, exactly, help me, god,help me now.
Earl (46:36):
That's the bargain, the devil made Help me.
Jesus, what's the bargain thedevil made?
Zack (46:42):
What did you need?
Oh man, Don't even get mestarted.
What did?
Earl (46:44):
you need.
Right, that's what I'm saying,that's it, that's it.
It's like the story of Job.
Zack (46:49):
People love the story of Job.
The story of Job is terribleyeah it is.
He said where have you been?
It's God sitting there with allthe God's children, it's
talking about the angels.
And he says, hey, he saidthey're sitting there.
And God is mad.
I mean basically Becausethey're waiting on Beelzebub,
they're waiting on the devil.
And he gets there and he's likehey, son, where have you been?
(47:17):
He said I've been between twoworlds trying to destroy man, he
said.
And if it weren't for that damnJob, I'd done have them all.
He said Job would never haveturned to you.
Earl (47:24):
It was a bet y'all.
I've never heard a time likethat.
It's like Abraham.
Zack (47:26):
It was a bet, bro.
It was a bet.
No, I bet y'all can make it beon my side, I bet you can't make
it be on your side.
He said everything was farmertalk.
Drop the hedge around from hisheart.
He said I'll drop it from hisheart, but I won't drop it from
his soul.
So you can turn his heart ifhe'll turn, but I'm telling you
he won't.
But his soul will always bemine because he's my favorite,
or one of my favorite.
You know what I'm saying?
(47:47):
Basically Destroyed everythinghe had, Everything he loved,
Everything.
Earl (47:51):
Everything.
Zack (47:51):
Everything, of course.
Then he gave him a whole otherfamily and wealth and everything
else, but still had to gothrough all that I know, yeah,
but even then I can't wait formy wealth.
Earl (47:58):
Where's my wealth at?
Let's test Abraham?
You know this life is bad.
Zack (48:06):
What am I Redo?
Earl (48:07):
Take your son You've got to.
I have a hard time with that.
Right, I have to study it.
Zack (48:11):
Moses was a killer man.
Moses was a murderer.
Earl (48:14):
Easily, I'll bet you Easily.
Moses is quite a character inthe bow.
Zack (48:18):
And I understand him better than his mother.
Earl (48:20):
I understand that better than.
Zack (48:22):
He is the only person talked about from birth till end
of life in the Bible is Moses.
Earl (48:27):
Yeah, he didn't have a gap .
Zack (48:28):
That's pretty cool.
Earl (48:30):
Yeah, yeah, I understand a lot more his being a flawed
human being than I do some ofthe others.
It's hard like like you talkabout, like uh.
Zack (48:36):
Joe.
Earl (48:37):
Abraham and stuff like that.
As far as, yeah, like I said,others just struggle to study.
Oh, you're putting the guitardown.
Zack (48:47):
That means put it down, but put it away, james put it
away yeah, it's about time I wasabout to tell you to play us
out a song oh, I got one Play usout.
Play us out a song.
You got one.
It was too square.
I was about to say is the nutscoming?
Earl (49:03):
up, come on down for these nuts Come on down for these
nuts.
Zack (49:14):
Proud sponsor of this wild ass podcast is Love's Barbecue,
where you can get you a nut anda mouthwatering steak and a
free beer.
You can't ask for more.
Earl (49:22):
Buck nuts.
Zack (49:24):
Only restaurant guaranteed you get a nut, a mouthwatering
steak and a free beer.
You know what?
I'm saying that is a restaurantright there, boy.
I should bring people in.
That's a fact, though it's true, and it is and it's, it's as
bad as it for me.
It's hard for me to say butlove's nuts are good yo you know
(49:46):
, I mean it is, it's squirrelnuts, squirrel nuts, it's good
you got the buck, nuts them boys, boys are good.
Come on down to Love's.
I mean, they are good.
Them nuts is good.
You can actually get real nutsevery once in a while Calf rice
you have it every once in awhile.
That's true, but I'll tell youright now you go get some of
them, buck nuts.
Earl (50:03):
Them.
Nuts are always on the menu.
They are always good too.
Nuts uh, I don't know about thebest nuts, but it's close to it
.
Zack (50:15):
I got pretty good nuts.
I think you're having troublewith the nut top we're just
nutty, we're just not nutty, butI absolutely do have the best
nuts you know well, there'sprobably some more nuts coming
as.
Earl (50:23):
Uh, that's just what they got.
That's just what there is sofar.
You just got to be I didn'thear it coming you're just gonna
have to be satisfied with thenuts they have now.
No, they're great, I believe.
Zack (50:37):
I've never been there and was not satisfied with the nuts.
You can choose nuts.
It's more than one variety ofnut, you can go with all the nut
.
(50:49):
You can get almost any kind of nut you want.
Zack (50:52):
We got.
We got your nut, I got your nutand it's delicious.
Y'all you just got to come ondown and try it.
Come on down.
Well, it was.
Three crazy friends in ahaunted hospital in a small town
in Texas Couldn't quit the nut,started up a show so they might
(51:13):
get to talk about that nutLove's barbecue.
Be easy, baby.
Be easy, baby Couldn't quit thenuts yeah, I got one coming.
Y'all, though, just stay tuned,stay tuned, stay listening.
Tonight, we're going to saygoodbye for the Be Easy podcast
(51:39):
and we will be talking to yousoon, but until then, I'm Bucky,
I'm Earl, I'm Zach, we are theBe Easy podcast, and we will see
you next week.
How sweet the sound and we willsee you in gray.
(52:13):
I once was lost, but now I'mfound.
I was blind, but now.
I see it was grace that taughtmy heart To fear.
(52:42):
And grace.
My fears Relieved, and how greatmy fears relieved.
And I pray just in my grace Tohear the hour I first believed
(53:15):
my chains were gone and I'vebeen set free.
My Lord, my Savior, he'sransomed me like a dove.
(53:36):
His mercy reigns unending love,amazing grace.
(53:58):
And when we've been there twothousand years, bright shining
and the song, there's no lessdays to sing God's praise than
(54:31):
when we first begun.
God's great, then we'll wefirst be gone.
My chains are gone, I've beenset free.
My Lord, my Savior, he'sransomed me and like the flood,
(55:02):
his mercy reigns unending love,amazing grace.
And like the Lord, his mercyreigns Unending love, amazing
(55:34):
grace.
And amazing grace.
How sweet the sound.
Thank you.
And with those baby blue eyes and that smile that's mine.
This year, well, she turnedthree.
You better grab a hold ofsomething close up and grab a
hold of you and don't ask aquestion if you can't take the
(00:23):
truth, cause it might be aquestion and you can't take the
truth Because it might be areflection of you.
I said it might be a reflectionof you Coming to you live from
the old, abandoned ChillicotheHospital in Chillicothe, texas.
(00:44):
This is the B to the E, to the Zand that is Be Easy.
Be Easy, baby.
Give me that Check one.
Earl (00:55):
That's the part you need.
Zack (00:58):
Give me that, give me that .
Bucky (01:01):
Man, I used to love this album, right here.
Earl (01:04):
There's a bunch on there.
Zack (01:05):
There is a lot you still can't hear nothing, zach, or you
got that fixed.
I can hear it, I just don'thear it.
Earl (01:10):
There's so much of that that I still don't like to
listen to.
We need to see what.
Zack (01:13):
Earl's microphone is.
Earl (01:14):
We need to turn this shit down.
Boy, I'd be loud.
Well, I'm up in it today.
Zack (01:20):
Hey check one hell.
Yeah, oh, you're good.
Are we talking about the samething?
Earl (01:24):
no, but that album, for all the crude and stuff on it,
you know that easy.
Yeah, it's got some killer basslines and shit, oh yeah, music
on it.
It's like the way they sampledit and the shit they put
together, it's like crazy.
Zack (01:35):
That's why I like yeah I know I like the music more
effective.
Yeah, but the word you know alot of it's like, it's like that
song.
Earl (01:41):
That song is crazy.
But there's some other shitthat's like damn, it's probably,
but anyway.
Nah, that's why he put shittogether the bass lines, the
shit, the undertone.
Okay, let's see if we can hearthis.
What is it going?
Some feedback?
Oh yeah, go for that.
You're ready to hear this zachyeah, I'm listening feedback
from uh, so not listening up.
(02:00):
Listening to your podcast today with Sharon, I just want
to tell Zach or you guys youknow, about the devil being on
you.
It's kind of crazy.
It's been for me 20 years thisMay.
It was the day after school gotout for the summer and my
(02:23):
11-year-old son, hisstep-grandfather on my husband's
side was just being stupid andshot him and then didn't call
911.
Instead they loaded him up andbrought him to me in the car.
Anyway, it's been 20 years andJosh is my oldest son.
(02:47):
Both of them I had there when Ilived in Chillicothe there in
Vernon when he got.
Well, they're only a year apartand whenever Josh has any kind
of milestone, it's hard.
(03:09):
Even when Josh got married.
Ellen Gilbert, I have otherchildren.
Zack (03:12):
That's who it is.
(03:13):
And you know Zach was talking about trying to be happy.
I'm always trying to be happy,but I'm always feeling guilty
too.
But you know, it's been 20years and I mainly just have to
think about him as his presenttime and not dwell on him not
(03:36):
being here.
But I wanted to say that one ofthe sad things that's happened
to my oldest son, joshua him andJeremiah was only a year and a
half 15 months apart is when himand his wife got married, they
had a miscarriage on the sameday that Jeremiah died the
(03:58):
anniversary of A few years.
Earl (04:04):
What happened?
(04:06):
A few years later they had a little girl and she was fine.
And then they had a secondlittle girl in 2020.
And they didn't tell me tillthe day she was born.
But they decided to name herand honor Jeremiah, so they
named her Maya.
So her name is Maya Grace andanyway she was born.
Everything we thought was great.
(04:28):
But she had to go back to thehospital in a day and if you
ever get on my Facebook orwhatever, I don't know if we're
friends, but now we're goinginto three years and she's got a
lot of issues.
She's got a lot of.
She has a feeding tube and itjust she's got a lot of issues,
she's got a lot of, she has afeeding tube, and it just
bothers me, it hurts me that hername is Maya and I think it's
(04:51):
the devil, you know, justworking on my mind like that.
I love her and she's great,she's wonderful and me and her
are real close, but it's justlike another, as Zach's saying,
like you know, the devil is justby.
Anyway, I just want to tell Zachyou know, I know what you're
going through, zach, and I justwant to tell you it's just,
(05:15):
there's not anything you can say, like you said.
Zack (05:17):
It never gets better.
(05:19):
I've been thinking about you and your mom, your family.
I love your mom and back inhigh school we had the same
birthday and me and her talk onFacebook or used to.
So y'all been in my prayers andI think about y'all a lot and I
think this podcast is awesome.
Anyway, I hope y'all have agreat day.
Talk to y'all later, bye, bye.
This was a message, yeah that'spretty cool, I want to clarify I
(05:41):
don't hate that her name isMaya.
I feel like the fact that wenamed her Maya, we Cursed her.
It's as if we set that up forthe devil to attack her.
I guess is what I meant.
So I just wanted to clarifythat.
It's not that I hate her namebeing Maya after Jeremiah.
(06:04):
I just thought how that mighthave sounded terrible.
But anyway, I think maybe y'allunderstand what I'm trying to
say.
Zack (06:12):
Thanks.
Earl (06:13):
Ma.
Zack (06:13):
Damn.
I mean there's just some thingsthat can't be explained, and
that's one of them right there.
I mean that's a lot, that's alot.
I mean that's terrible lot,don't go trying.
(06:25):
That's a lot.
I mean, that's terrible.
Zack (06:26):
That's generational cursing.
Earl (06:28):
You know that's a Well we was talking about Gilberts and
stuff, talking about Bradley.
Zack (06:36):
She was kin to him.
Yes, that's like first cousin.
Earl (06:38):
I think she's a first cousin, yeah, so anyway, I don't
know, I don't know about that.
Zack (06:46):
Maybe we so, uh, anyway, I don't know.
I don't know about that, butmaybe we need to talk to her
about that.
We already have that wrote downalready, a bradley gilbert
episode.
Earl (06:50):
Yeah well we did, yeah, we talked about.
We talked about that, becausewe could talk about several
people that knew a differentperspective and we could talk
about that for weeks.
Zack (06:58):
Dude, yeah, probably a lot , yeah, yeah I don't think we
want to do it consecutively I'veheard, I've heard some crazy
shit about that, like leads andshit.
Oh yeah that they assumed youknow what I'm saying.
Yeah, but some of that was wecan't Right.
Earl (07:14):
You probably get yeah, we got it off.
Zack (07:15):
Yeah, they probably come arrest us.
Earl (07:17):
Well, we're eventually going to piss somebody off.
Oh yeah, it's going to happen.
It's going to piss somebody off, oh yeah, it's done that.
Zack (07:23):
It's done that.
You ain't wrong.
I down there pissed my wife off.
Earl (07:26):
Oh, that happened a long time ago didn't it?
Zack (07:28):
Yeah, what'd you say this time?
Why didn't I cut out for you?
Earl (07:32):
It's been up and down.
There it is, Chris.
It's all your fault.
It's my fault.
Zack (07:39):
It's up and down, isn't it , Chris?
You'd have never heard it.
That's the best way.
That is the truth.
Where's?
my five.
The gain on five has got to godown.
Check one.
That's good right there.
Thank you, I was a cracklingand a popping.
Not like I is when I get out ofbed in the morning, because it's
my old shit.
I know I have stairs at myhouse Not my friend.
(08:02):
I can see how they couldn't besometimes Either way up or down.
Either way, at least you knowif you fall down the stairs
you're not going to bite throughyour lip.
(08:10):
Yeah.
Zack (08:14):
Break my eyeball or something.
I'm right there with you, I'mtelling you oh man, I'm ready
for mine.
I'm dead serious dude.
Earl (08:21):
Oh yeah, Much better.
Zack (08:24):
Yeah, it's got to be.
I need to quit giving you ahard time.
I'm going to give you a complexNext thing you know Chris won't
even talk.
I'll just sit here all night.
Nah, fuck that, Fuck that.
You don't see it you can't takeit.
Earl (08:34):
You should in the mid-morning.
Zack (08:35):
Give me a goddamn minute.
No, that was pretty deep.
(08:42):
That was pretty deep, that was a lot, that was decent.
Earl (08:44):
I'm surprised that's what?
Zack (08:46):
That's pretty good yeah.
It was real good, that was notabout God so much, but the devil
.
Just the devil.
Earl (08:52):
What he does.
Well, but why?
Zack (08:54):
How it works in your life, oh man.
God sees.
Well, you talked about it, yeah.
Earl (09:01):
Yeah, like I said, it's how it works in your life.
It's how you work it out andhow it works into you.
Zack (09:07):
Boy, if ever in your life that you need the Lord, that is
a person that needs the Lord.
I mean really, If you think thedevil's on top of you, then you
better get the Lord on top ofyou.
Earl (09:16):
Yeah, because he will take you.
You ain't wrong.
Yeah, you're right.
He'll take you down.
Yeah, he'll take you down.
Zack (09:21):
Yeah, a little bit at a time, or a lot you know.
Quick, he can do it it tooksome of ours quick and he's
working on taking my mind, buthe's been working on that for
years.
Yeah, out of mind.
He's taking your eyesight rightnow, son of a.
(09:41):
You know that's right, you know.
Earl (09:44):
Well, I don't know who it is, but frustration, I think
that's just.
Zack (09:46):
It's kind of a blast, you know it's well, it's the thing
that wears on you old age.
Call it whatever you want.
Earl (09:51):
It's like a thing that frustrates you.
Zack (09:52):
It works on you.
I mean, I lost.
I lost my kids, I lost my pinky.
Then they tell me that I mighthave glaucoma and I'm losing my
vision.
What else can I lose?
You know what I'm saying.
Do you need a kidney?
You know they're in bad shape,but you can have one.
I'll guarantee you'd be drunkwhen you wake up.
They'll be like no, we don'tneed.
(10:12):
Yeah, you'd be drunk.
Zack (10:14):
Only person gets a kidney transplant, wakes up drunk, what
the fuck you know?
Or anyway, that's how it is.
Sorry, sorry, hey beggars can'tbe choosers.
Earl (10:27):
You know what I mean.
Zack (10:28):
Hey, if you're on a kidney transplant list and you need a
kidney.
You beggars can't be choosers.
I mean oh, it's terrible.
Oh man, I mean, choose yourpoison.
I know that's right.
Earl (10:42):
You're right.
Zack (10:46):
We're not recording what are we doing?
Yeah, we are.
That's some great shit.
Earl (10:51):
That's what you say, that's probably some soundbites.
Yeah, some shorts.
Zack (10:57):
It's true, I wrote a.
I wrote a.
This was started writing theother day and I wrote Talking
about it's hard to keep a.
It's hard to keep up with thisfake smile of mine.
Anyway, I wrote several that Idon't play.
(11:19):
I walk around this houselooking down for fear of what I
might see on the walls.
You sang that for her.
Earl (11:28):
Yeah, you sang that for her, I did.
Yeah, I think so.
Zack (11:31):
It's not for me.
Earl (11:32):
I don't think, nobody else , I don't remember.
Zack (11:33):
I think he's in my yard.
I think he's in my yard.
Earl (11:35):
I think he's in my yard in the porch.
Zack (11:37):
Yeah, I forgot about that, this one.
I just wrote Some of it.
Coming back from Wichita whenthey told me I had glaucoma oh
wait, I can't read it now mymama told me so many times you
need to stop that or you'll goblind.
Put it away, boy, put it away.
(11:59):
That's nice of you, justkidding.
I forgot what I wrote.
And I'm blind.
You just can't read it.
It's big dude, it's wrote.
One letter per page.
Earl (12:15):
I'm going to have to do it real fast.
Zack (12:17):
This is the process.
Everybody might steal myprocess of how to ride.
It's just you know, it's good,they can figure it out they can
follow it.
That's the podcast Close.
Take some practice.
That's the common question.
To be honest with you, amen,and my answer's always the same
or how are you that's?
How you doing I'm here, youknow, that's all the answer
(12:38):
always has I'm here barely well.
Earl (12:42):
Sometimes I am sometimes I'm not qualified sometimes I
don't want to be.
Zack (12:50):
Yeah, I'm beat.
See, I think that people behumming that at work, yeah yeah,
man I catch people all timesinging that loves barbecue john
.
And I said I said yeah, I meanI.
I said who was I telling thatto?
I said yeah, hey.
I said jimmy, maybe it wasjimmy, I can't remember that and
I said I need to write anotherone.
(13:11):
I don't know you can top thatone.
Yeah, that was pretty good.
I said well, I think you can.
Earl (13:16):
You just don't know me.
That set me down right by.
Zack (13:18):
Hank Williams.
And they said I want you towrite a song about this.
Hank Williams stole it from meto be honest with you.
You know your cheating heart.
Yeah, he went into the bigrecording studio.
They said how do we know thatyour hillbilly ass wrote this
shit?
Okay, well, give me a topic.
And they wrote a topic.
He said okay, you see your wifewalking down the street with
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another man okay and they wentand had him.
We're gonna go have a cup ofcoffee that's what they called a
cup of coffee back then to gethim signed.
Uh, no, but uh, and actually hewrote that song.
By the time he got back he hadthat whole song.
Yeah, he's a bad man, butanyway he's one of those people
that was not of this earth,right?
(14:01):
Some people are Prince Elvis,michael Jackson.
Earl (14:04):
There wasn't many of them, guys, extraordinary yes,
absolutely correct.
Zack (14:09):
Extraordinary Elvis Presley, for sure, crazy.
I didn't even used to likeElvis, but but elvis I don't
necessarily either.
Earl (14:17):
I think he was exploited a lot of things, but he is the
king real yeah watch elvis invegas.
Zack (14:22):
Y'all, y'all understand why they call him the king.
Earl (14:24):
Real quick well, it's just already like his talent to have
his voice, and then they didn'tlet him out.
Whenever he did do what hewanted like like trying to write
stuff and be creative and stufflike that they didn't let him.
Zack (14:35):
Well, yeah, he's the only man that can actually take a
hymnal and change the words toit, and he did.
Earl (14:41):
Well, that's right, he was a gospel singer.
Peace in the Valley, dude.
He was already.
That's what he was, because hehad always come from that.
He was a gospel singer, anyway.
Zack (14:51):
See, that's how I was going to end it, that's how I
was going to say Instead of beeasy baby, it's going to be
tattooed, bearded and crazy.
Earl (15:01):
I like that.
I'm not offended, dude.
I'll tell you what that waslike, a while back too, that I
was trying to remove that wordfrom my mouth and stuff like
that.
You know what I mean.
Zack (15:10):
I was working on shit.
I told you to remove certainthings, yeah.
Earl (15:13):
I had to.
It's a practice.
It's a practice Of doing things, and that was one of them I was
trying to do Because I feltoffended, exactly, and I felt
Not offended.
(15:22):
But you know what?
What is it called?
Zack (15:24):
No, no, no, but it's not offended.
Earl (15:26):
It's what they call it.
They call it like a stigma,like a Like there's a view on
you.
Zack (15:31):
That's, it's a it's a stigma.
Earl (15:35):
Well, yeah, you know what I mean.
Like people got this idea of it.
Zack (15:38):
That's right.
You know, just because I dodrugs doesn't mean I'm a
crackhead.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Earl (15:44):
But yeah, you know.
But I know Some people thinkthe boy still do drugs.
Oh, he's crazy, he's riding on.
Zack (15:50):
Rodolf Yep.
Earl (15:51):
You've been to jail, you're a judge, you're a
terrible person.
There you are with me.
Well, I mean, but for differentreasons We'll be judged for the
rest of our lives.
You're right, especially in asmall town in Texas.
Turn me up a little bit.
Well, because it's easy doingit in a small town, you got less
judges.
Zack (16:07):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Earl (16:10):
Probably so.
But we're right, we're notwrong.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Zack (16:15):
My dad called me paranoid.
One time I hurt my feelingsworse than him.
I'd be terrible, terrible.
Why?
Earl (16:21):
Because I was paranoid yeah, I know I'm too.
Zack (16:24):
I don't think it's a that shit.
Don't go away though.
Earl (16:26):
No, that's what I'm saying .
It just intensified it, youknow what I choose, what to be
paranoid about I was outside andI was like hey Dad.
Zack (16:32):
I said you see that right there.
You see that star, that ain'tno star, that's the eye in the
sky.
He looked at me and said Goddamn, boy paranoid.
They were out on the back porchafter I went to a vacation and
they were out on the back deckand Shane Shannon and my dad,
they were all drinking.
He was like hey Dad, look upthere.
(17:00):
If dad zach was here you'd saythat was look at that, that's
the eye in the sky.
And they started laughing.
That fucking eye, that old star, went and flew directly over.
Yeah, my brother said, I willnever doubt what you say again.
Earl (17:07):
Yeah, well, I mean it's a thing, there's a word you know,
neurotic or neurosis.
I mean you go with a negativething.
It's hard not to be that waythat you run off in a circle of
negativity?
Yeah, don't you call me.
That's what it did.
No, I have the same problem,dude.
It's neurosis.
You're neurotic of the liver?
Well, that's something elsethat's how something different.
Zack (17:28):
You can cause that but no, there's people.
Earl (17:30):
It's that way.
It's hard to fight.
Zack (17:31):
It's the thing you gotta.
Earl (17:33):
The negative thinking and stuff, and that's what they call
it.
They call it that Neurosis,neurotic.
You tend to run away in acircle of your thoughts, do?
Zack (17:41):
you not, hey, you do that too, Bucky right.
Earl (17:47):
I don't mind you have negative thoughts and they run
that even more all the time.
Zack (17:51):
Yeah, but there's, I mean, you see it, that's what they're
doing though yeah neurosis yeahof the liver, but anyway,
erotic I mean, it's true, I meanit's not erotic, you start
neurotic you know, you gettalked about so much and you
start taking things personal ornot even talked about so much
you start feeling guilty, somuch about things that you've
(18:13):
done, then you really starttaking so personal like you know
me, for example uh, we're gonnaleave that out.
Let's say I thought this wasbest to get deep.
Yeah, boy, I could get deep onit I thought it was about to do
that.
Earl (18:26):
Just ask me, I was feeling it.
I was feeling what she saidthat's what she said, she didn't
say that it's a
Zack (18:33):
short struggle, I'm going to get in trouble Did she?
Earl (18:37):
lie to you.
Hey what, I don't care she lied.
Zack (18:39):
It didn't hurt my feelings , she lied.
Earl (18:41):
I know that's what she was doing.
She was trying to pump you up,right?
Then I was almost getting somewicked air.
Yeah, you can still air that Iyou know what I'm saying.
Zack (18:52):
That's what I'm saying she messaged something about oh,
it's so awesome Y'all can saywhat's on your mind.
I'm like, hey, I don't thinkyou want to always know what's
on our mind, don't open thatdoor.
We won't be talking about howmany.
Earl (19:04):
Biting my lip right now.
Zack (19:09):
Oh, two boys standing up on bridges.
The water sure is cold deep too.
She's there, she's cool people.
Yeah, her whole family are coolpeople.
No, yeah, that's no shit youever seen her dance?
She is one.
Her and her husband are dancingfools, boy.
They should have been on TVDancing with the stars For real.
I mean they could.
I'm dancing.
I mean talk dancing fools.
Interesting Things you justdon't know about your teacher.
(19:37):
That could be Things you don'tknow about your teacher.
Earl (19:42):
Time out.
Zack (19:43):
We're going to take a time out.
Earl (19:44):
There was a day and age this show must be paused for
middle prosperity.
Break.
Zack (19:50):
Middle prosperity.
Earl (19:51):
There was a time and a day and age For that, but that time
has passed.
Zack (19:56):
Yeah.
Earl (19:58):
Shoot.
The day and age Is no more.
Zack (19:59):
Sometimes, hey, until you get it over with, sometimes
it'll never pass.
Earl (20:02):
Well, I hear that that's why, you gotta keep back.
That's why.
That's why people questionthese things like podcasts, when
we don't bring shit up.
Zack (20:11):
Jerry Luke said Baby, careful what you say.
Zach put it on his podcast.
I started laughing no shit.
I want to thank Sumner Colleen,jerry Luke Smoker for proudly
listening to Be Easy, be EasyPodcast that means, they listen,
that's exactly right.
Oh, and she told me how shereally she thanked me and to
tell y'all, thank you forgetting Sharon on here, you know
(20:31):
, because they're cousins.
Earl (20:32):
Yeah.
Zack (20:33):
All right yeah.
Earl (20:34):
Well, that's kind of a.
Zack (20:38):
And she said I'll never forget what your daddy talking
to me, what my daddy said thenight of the Draper's viewing of
the four, whatever what, did hesay.
He said I just can't imagineand I hope something like that
(20:58):
never happens to me.
Earl (21:02):
Well, you can't imagine that dude.
Zack (21:04):
Nobody can imagine it.
No, that's surprising.
Don't want to Hell, no.
Earl (21:08):
It's haunting that she remembers that.
You know what I mean.
I don't know what else to sayabout it.
Zack (21:13):
Some people only I'm like that remember certain things
about honing on that one thingit's connected I just can't
remember how things can beconnected in so many different
ways.
Earl (21:25):
Well, they are everything's interwoven in a way
you can't even imagine it's amatter as well.
It's a matter of you findingthose ways that are connected
and discovering that and how youknow what I mean.
It's hard matter of you findingthose ways that are connected
and discovering that and how youknow what I mean.
It's hard to do ahead of time.
Zack (21:37):
You know it's like it's impossible.
So many of my songs that Iwrote way before apply so much
to what my situation is now.
Earl (21:46):
But you didn't do that when you wrote them.
Huh, you weren't applying itwhen you wrote them.
Oh no, Hell no.
Zack (21:55):
Wouldn't have thought in my mind like that.
Earl (21:56):
But right, you know, but I mean it's like uh, so many
songs have been like, damn,that's well, that's with a lot
of the materials.
That way, dude, it comes, itchanges over time, whether you
change you didn't change or notbut it changes to you as you
revisit the meaning.
Maybe you know.
Well, it's like the bible, dude.
People read it over and over,right.
I mean how many people read it?
But you read it over and over,right?
I mean how many people haveread it?
But you read it again.
You get something different outof it.
Zack (22:17):
Yeah, every time.
Earl (22:18):
Because it speaks to you different as you are different.
That's right, I found out too.
They call it the big book.
It's the blue book or whateverfor AA.
It's got these stories ofpeople and I tell you it's crazy
, that way too, dude, I'd readit and I'd read it some months
later, after I've read someother shit, and it reads
different, like it don't meannothing to you, and then it does
(22:38):
, or vice versa, it meanssomething different.
It's crazy.
You just gotta do it over andover the same shit.
That don't seem like you oughtto do that, but I tell you what
the Bible's the ultimate of thatas far as you read it, you
don't know what it means.
It comes to you later, or itcomes to you different, it's
like totally, totally differentpoint of view.
It's like I didn't even thinkthat, or you know, it extracts
(23:00):
you it's, it's a it's.
Zack (23:00):
That's why, as part of that's just part of the magic
book.
It's magic, I mean really.
I mean we've talked about thatbefore about that's the only way
to really get through this life.
Oh man, yeah, but please,please, believe in.
Earl (23:14):
If you don't believe, seek help well, yeah, there you go,
find it yeah, you have to seekit.
Zack (23:22):
But you have to seek it, that's right, you call me up,
I'll help you out, yeah we'llhelp you seek it I'm dead what
was that one?
Earl (23:28):
you had one called fisher a man what was that?
Zack (23:30):
that's.
We talked about the same stuff,yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,
like I said, I've got a best one.
I talked about how?
Same stuff, that kind of stuff.
What was it?
What came out?
Yeah, you know, like I said,I've got a best one.
I talk about giving people aride from my house being broke
down and stuff.
Earl (23:39):
Yeah, yeah, that's all you can do.
Sometimes you've got to be outthere and sometimes they find
you.
Zack (23:44):
Yeah Right, absolutely.
Earl (23:46):
A lot of times that you don't do it bad things happen.
Zack (23:58):
Yeah, you know, I say that , you know, and I asked
specifically and he answered itand I walked out of there and
blew it off.
Like you know, I still didn't,and then Well, you ain't the
only one dude.
Earl (24:13):
I think there's things we're all.
Zack (24:14):
If it was like you know if it could be.
You know, do as I say, not as Ido.
Earl (24:19):
Yeah, that might apply, we all do shit like that.
Oh yeah, I'm just saying it'shard to do that, dude.
I think I said that too Like asfar as I can always figure out
somebody.
You know, I'm not saying thatarrogantly or whatever.
But I but uh but I can.
(24:40):
You know what I mean.
I can't figure out my own shit.
I know it.
They call it.
I've seen that it's called asearchlight soul.
You're the, you're the beacon.
You can tell people.
They come to you even.
Yeah.
But you know what?
You can't fix your shit fornothing.
Nathan Red alert.
Nathan Interesting.
Zack (24:57):
I mean, that's for real, You're exactly right about that.
Like moths to a flame.
Earl (25:03):
But that's a lot of people .
Zack (25:04):
That's a deep Because people want to believe.
I mean people.
Earl (25:08):
I believe that about a lot of stuff, man.
As far as I've seen people inother positions of that.
Zack (25:11):
I mean, as I've seen people in other positions of
that, I mean I've got.
Did I talk about one of that?
Does that episode talk aboutwhen the girls had COVID, when
we had COVID?
That's a good episode, I think.
Earl (25:19):
I think that was a.
Zack (25:20):
God, one that would probably be one of that probably
needs to be put on there.
Earl (25:23):
It's coming up.
Yeah yeah, I'm just kind ofworking through.
That's what I was looking attoday.
He sent me how we need to donext and when.
Zack (25:30):
I get to talk about God.
I go to rambling, so you mightthink I'm Jerry Lee Lewis.
Well, you know what I'm saying.
I had some people talk.
They liked when you talkedabout that.
Yeah, I've had lots of peopleask me why I'm not talking about
that.
Well In time, yeah, oh, yeah.
Well, just story here and there.
But you know, it's just somethings that you can only put so
(25:51):
many things off to coincidence.
You know, like I said man, Igot to check on that saying
cause I feel like I'm saying itwrong and the very first thing
when I get home I turn YouTubeon.
That's the very first thingthat was said.
You know it's a first man wasAdam.
Seventh from Adam was Enoch.
Enoch.
I used to say seventh fromEnoch was Methuselah, but that's
not the saying.
(26:12):
I've said it for like yearsbecause that's what I thought I
heard when I was a kid, insteadof going back and looking it up
and seventh man was from Adam,adam's first man.
Obviously.
Seventh man from Adam is Enoch.
Enoch was Methuselah's father.
Methuselah was Noah'sgrandfather, muthu's love was
(26:33):
noah's right grandfather and youknow, that is if you want to do
.
The time between adam and uhnoah is like thousands yeah,
just within those.
Earl (26:52):
Yeah, because yeah.
Zack (26:54):
But you know, it's a God, told Enoch, when Methuselah dies
, I'm destroying the world.
And that's why he letMethuselah live so long.
It's because he loved us somuch.
He just kept giving us chancesand chances to change.
And so when Methuselah died,methuselah's name means it's a
phrase.
People's names used to be inphrases.
It's like break it down to ourlanguage, the Hibbili.
(27:18):
It says his death shall bring.
And he died seven days beforethe great flood.
And he was the only one tellingNoah the crazy man that hey,
build an ark.
And it's never even rained onthe face of the earth.
It's been raining, hey buildingan ark, and it's never even
rained on the face of the earth.
It never rained, the heavenswill rain from above.
(27:38):
Water's from above and water'sbelow.
It never rained it just the dewwas so thick it would go from
there every morning and comeback down.
It wasn't, yeah, that's why itwas even crazier.
It's like a real fact.
Earl (27:52):
I know that's what people don't even understand.
He was saying it was going torain and this was coming.
You know how many people didn'tbelieve him Because it didn't
rain before that.
Zack (27:59):
Yeah, that's why.
That's why.
What do you mean rain?
He's never seen that so muchwater is going to come out of
the sky.
Are you crazy?
They're not going to stop.
And that's what happened.
And they were begging to get onthat ship.
(28:14):
They tried to get on it, matter of fact, that's why he
locked it.
Zack (28:16):
It was locked up.
He had to keep the bloodlineback pure, as we know.
That's it for real.
That's exactly what happened.
It's like doubt you, peasants.
There were too many recessivegenes of angels.
Genesis 1, verse 6, nehahBaalah.
Elohim could not resist thedaughters of the sons of man.
Therefore, they went in andwhat came from them was the
great warriors of old.
(28:37):
And if you don't believe thatgiants didn't used to walk the
face of the earth, you bettercheck again.
In 2014, seymour, texas, was an18-foot skeleton found.
They did the math he weighed2,500 pounds.
It was in the paper one day,then just disappeared.
Look.
Earl (28:50):
I don't look it up.
There you go, put it out there,look it up.
Zack (28:53):
So if you don't believe that there was giants on the
face of the earth, you're wrong.
When he sent Israelites intothe Philistines' camps and to
see what they were, to send twospies and they came back and
they said we are meregrasshoppers to their men.
They really meant we are meregrasshoppers to their big-ass
giants, I mean people likepeople.
You can take what the Biblesays.
(29:14):
I don't know, that's not what that meant.
Earl (29:16):
But in that case, it's what it meant they did.
There's some other stuff theyignore from that time.
They find bones and stuff likethat, other from the Philistines
and stuff like that.
They ignore it.
They're like, okay, yeah.
Zack (29:28):
World War I was basically a cover up for going and digging
up every giant that was buriedin the face of the earth, in
Europe's continent andeverything else.
Did you know during World War I?
That's what they did.
They went and dug up all thesemounds.
They started digging on thesemounds because you don't bury a
giant back in the day, you putdirt on top of them.
(29:49):
Because who wants to bury thatand dig that big asshole?
Earl (29:52):
You know what I'm saying.
How dare they?
Zack (29:55):
You're trying to have the conspiracy.
I'm telling you right there,man, that is, don't get me
started, I know.
That's one that is a that's ayou know I'm a firm believer.
That's kind of crazy.
Yeah, no, no, but there was.
There was other stuff.
Greek mythology.
Earl (30:08):
They have other stuff.
As far is like it was justcommon knowledge that they've
tried to bury okay so there'sevidence, like I said, there's
bones and everything else.
Zack (30:17):
It was like well, you know it's greek mythology got all
over the.
Uh, it's not a continent,whatever the, the, you know, the
island of greece, or whateverit is well, there was what.
Earl (30:26):
You know what I'm saying greek mythology is.
Zack (30:28):
They used to say there was .
You know it's mythology, butyou know because they worship
zeus and all this other stuff.
Okay, but are you?
telling me back in the day, allover this whole miles and miles
and miles of country, what didthey do?
They watched TV and somebodymade it up.
No bullshit.
Earl (30:45):
Well, they did.
(30:46):
They embellish on that.
Zack (30:48):
There's truth in every just kidding.
Earl (30:51):
They did, but they've proven more and more of that in
every piece you ever heard thatsaying there's always there's
truth.
Zack (30:56):
There's there's truth in every jk.
So motherfucker says somethingto you and says hey, just
kidding, there's truth in theresomewhere.
That's what they did.
But even after hundreds andthousands of years of them
thinking that was bullshit.
Earl (31:07):
Yeah, they had proven more and more of it no, but they had
proven more and more of it,like whatever they were, like oh
oh, Troy was this place.
Well, they went back there andthey're like that shit didn't
happen once.
It happened like I don't knowhow many times over the past.
Things aren't recorded, okay.
Zack (31:19):
So I want you to think of this.
You know, in times ofrevelations, the angel is going
to come.
There's an archangel who'sgoing to come down, up these
angels that have been buried inthe face in the earth and cast
them in the lake of fire.
That's what our bible says.
Okay, now what does greekmythology talk about?
(31:41):
Who's buried in the earth?
Who is it?
The 13 most fierce warriorsever, terrorist kids.
You know what I'm saying.
Blood fell from the sky and she, she became pregnant.
She had 13 of the fiercestwarriors ever.
You know, there is a all theall.
The ancient wonders of theworld were all made by celestial
(32:04):
beings.
Now, you can't make me changemy mind and ain't nobody ever
told me that you know ancientaliens what do?
you call them angels, call themaliens.
I mean, that's the same thing.
Earl (32:13):
Yeah, you're right, you're right, that's what I'm saying
that's uh, it's hard, that'sanother crossover a lot of
people believe that it's likethese were some other celestial
being yeah, they came down hereand they what's the celestial
being?
What's an angel?
Is it not a celestial being?
Is an angel exactly?
Zack (32:32):
but you know, it's like uh , uh, they went.
Therefore, they went into them.
And what came from the greatwords of old?
Therefore, they put genes inthem or eggs in them.
Earl (32:42):
Yeah, Well, there's some other.
There's some lost books of theBible as well that aren't
accepted.
Well, they took Enoch out ofour text, you know.
Enoch's.
In the Hebrew text there's more.
Zack (32:56):
Yeah, there's some other ones too.
They're in hebrew text andthere's some that are neither,
because people don't that, theydon't want you to hear what
enoch had to say, because he,you know, he talks about the
five different heavens and hetalks about how this is for
these the watchers.
Earl (33:04):
He has the watchers absolutely.
Zack (33:06):
That's the nabal hall of.
It was the interbreeding.
Earl (33:09):
It was the interbreeding of angels and people.
Zack (33:11):
That's, you know, that's.
That's all back in methuselah'stime.
God just let that go for a longtime, because he created them
those are, and the rule was youdid not intertwine with.
Earl (33:22):
That's a book.
There's some other book too.
Is he knocking?
Zack (33:25):
there's something else but you know he told you couldn't.
So what happened is, theseangels had kids with the
daughters of the sons of man.
Earl (33:34):
Yeah.
Zack (33:35):
And that's where we learned all our knowledge.
Like he started that this angeland they can even name you the
names in this book.
(33:42):
Right.
Talk about the name of theangels, the angels yes, and this
angel was the one over sorcery.
Zack (33:48):
This one was the one over growing crops.
This one was the one over war.
Some of that yeah.
There's all sorts of stuff andhe punished those, and the
devil's not even the worst angel.
I mean really, yeah, I don'tknow, there's more to the story,
you're right.
Earl (34:06):
There's more to the story and it's hard to say.
Zack (34:09):
And it's hard to grasp.
Earl (34:11):
Well, you're right, you're talking about the Book of Enoch
.
There's more than that too.
There's several other bookslike that that are lost, I mean,
they're not accepted like kingdan's version.
Zack (34:19):
That are right you know the bible does.
You got to pay attention towhat it's talking about.
You know, I can't rememberexactly.
I'll look this up and Ishouldn't even say it before I
get started, but I'm going to.
Okay, there was a person thatwas, uh, picked up by two angels
.
This is the gist of the story.
So he was picked up and he wastaken to different places on
(34:40):
that, you know, through egyptand all these places that were
miles and miles and miles andmiles apart, and every time he
went to the next place he saidhe was physically unable to
speak, or you know, you know,and, uh, he's talking about
being on a ship.
How they hit, how he wentteleport, not teleported.
But it's just the words thatare said make you think that
they picked him up, put him inthe ship.
(35:00):
Hey, let's go.
Let me show you something youknow, let's go gone magic carpet
ride yeah yeah, I would like totake one of them, as long as
they brought me back yeah, right, wait a minute, you leave me
here and if they just give mesome of that, hey what?
I don't know what's the ridecost A little probing.
Earl (35:18):
You know what I'm saying.
That's what I'm talking about.
Should I?
Zack (35:21):
be a guinea pig.
Come on, take me up.
I just want to see.
Just let me see.
I think that's happened morethan once.
Yeah, we get stuck talkingabout this.
Earl (35:31):
Men in black, here we go, don't get me started.
No, yeah, I'm a believer inthat as well.
That's as big a weird thing as,like I said, magic carpet.
That's a way of explainingthings that you can't put into
words.
Zack (35:41):
Yeah, absolutely, and you think that's crazy.
People say this time on theface of the earth is the worst
time ever.
That's bullshit.
Always, everyone, bullshit takea glimpse, everyone take a
glimpse into the old testamentand then you tell me that again.
How about you go live five daysin the old testament times and
tell me that it's worse now thanit was in well?
Earl (35:59):
how do you?
Zack (36:00):
it's like turn it in your head.
Earl (36:01):
It's like it's always gonna be what's going.
You can't figure out what'sgoing on now sodom and gomorrah,
you know well, I tell you whata lot of people don't realize.
There's times, yeah, that's,you'll come back to, like that.
I think people don't realize.
What was going on then was thesame kind of thing, but there
was like, yeah, they'll putspecifics.
There was debauchery that thiswas going on and this was going
(36:22):
on and people, I don't know itsounds like a Vegas town, you
know what.
Zack (36:25):
I mean Like they were gambling Sodom and Gomorrah,
there was all kinds of stuff.
Earl (36:28):
I mean, they talk there was a Roman town.
Zack (36:30):
that was all for gambling in the head.
It was on the island, ohthere's more than one.
Earl (36:33):
Yeah, there's been some, it's the?
Zack (36:35):
when did the mount?
Whatever blew up and the lavacame down on the town Pompeii.
Pompeii was.
That was what that was for.
It was for all the rich folks,all the what's it called?
Earl (36:48):
It was the city, it was the urbanization.
Zack (36:51):
It was like who's the guy that held the island is?
That's, what's the signeinstein, or yeah yeah, what's
his name?
Uh, epstein, epstein, wellthat's what people think.
Sophistication and yeah itgives you that uh image of that
I mean, come on, the romans onlykilled jesus.
Well, they didn't, we stilldraw?
Earl (37:09):
on them.
As far as there's there, theywere the way that told us the
society catholic church, don'tthink about this that combined.
Zack (37:16):
That's a combination of things yeah, it's scary and
think about that well we'regoing to kill your god, but then
we're going to believe.
Earl (37:20):
You know they combined a couple things there that we
could get, that's a whole.
Oh yeah, you're gonna pisspeople.
Yeah, we don't want to getreally too much religion.
Zack (37:28):
I mean, we believe what?
We believe in that's right,that's right.
Absolutely.
I not knocking anybody'sreligion.
All religions lead back to thesame thing.
Yeah, you know there was a howyou get there.
(37:38):
Six.
There were six.
What was the?
Zack (37:40):
Yeah, I mean I that.
Earl (37:45):
You're talking about the Catholic Church, though.
That's hard, no, no, no, Ididn't mean it by lying, I was
just.
I try not to say nothing badabout them, but I'm not Catholic
.
Zack (37:53):
Pontius Pilate, you know what that means.
Earl (37:56):
You know what Catholic means Catholic.
Catholic means universal.
It's the universal church.
It was the first church.
It was the church brought aboutby the apostles.
I don't think it's perfect.
Some people can't get away fromthat.
You understand, and Iunderstand that.
Zack (38:11):
Oh, there we go, keep talking about it and I
understand that.
Earl (38:15):
Oh, there we go, keep talking about it.
I know, I know, here we go.
Okay, yeah, shit, yeah, I don'tget that.
Zack (38:18):
You did that.
I know I can do it quick.
I'm telling you right now, butthe thing is, it's, it's, it's
the.
I'm incorrigible, okay here'sthe deal.
Here's the deal really thecertain people in this world
will never believe anything orthey'll believe everything.
Okay, see what I'm saying.
So those people are usually thesame person because for real
(38:38):
think about it.
They're only going to believewhat the government tells them,
and they believe everything thatthe government tells you You're
right.
Earl (38:44):
Hey, no, that's a problem.
Zack (38:46):
I mean, that's it.
Earl (38:47):
That's a problem that I have.
How do you?
Zack (38:49):
think you can make me believe that 1947 in Roswell,
new Mexico.
Earl (38:55):
I'm telling you that is the beginning of our era, right
now.
Yeah, there's a basic flaw.
Remember when you were talkingabout the greatest deception the
devil ever pulled off?
Zack (39:04):
Making everybody believe he didn't exist Exactly.
Earl (39:08):
That's like a government conspiracy.
You know, One Nation Under God.
One Nation Under God is one ofthe biggest.
Zack (39:14):
But therefore, then we take it out of the schools, come
on come on.
Earl (39:17):
Well, I know, because they have you, they have most.
Zack (39:20):
Most people they don't have you but they have most
people believing it used to beone.
This is one nation under god,but right now, god we trust, do
you know you'll never find apolitician that's not crooked.
I mean, look at pelosi's got tobe a demon I, I don't say that
lie.
Earl (39:33):
Pelosi is a demon, every one of them.
I don't care what side they'reon, that's what it is.
Zack (39:38):
That's what it is it's self-interest.
Earl (39:40):
You know the path of the righteous man.
The righteous, you know what Imean.
He's beset on two sides.
Yeah, one side is the selfish.
The selfish are going to do.
They don't try to hurt you, butthey're doing their own thing
and they're trying to get theirthing.
The other side is the tyrannyof evil men.
There are people that aretrying to do wrong.
(40:02):
There are mean people, and there are selfish people Can you
put?
Earl (40:05):
yourself in the path between them.
That's what your point is To me.
That's what God asked us to do.
Can you not be this person?
Can you not be that person?
Can you walk the line?
Zack (40:17):
That's the line.
The road to hell is paved withgood intentions.
Earl (40:20):
That's true too, but do you understand what I mean?
That's as simple as that.
All these people are eitherbeing selfish or they're just
trying to be flat-out evil.
Zack (40:29):
Yeah, man.
Earl (40:30):
The tyranny of evil men.
Zack (40:32):
Yes, absolutely, they know what they're doing.
I'm going to give you myopinion on people.
I'm going to say it real quickIf a person says something to
you y'all being you, who's everlistening intentionally to hurt
you, if they say thatintentionally to cause you pain,
that person you better believeis evil yes, what's the gospel?
(40:56):
I mean peace harmony.
You do unto others as you wantand you're gonna be selfless and
a person that will lie to yourface will rob you blind yes,
because there you go.
Earl (41:06):
They're being either selfish or they want something
from you.
That's right.
Zack (41:09):
Either they want what they want to get from you, or they
just want to be mean to you andsee you suffer exactly there's
so many people out there thatjust just don't like you,
because it's not that, you know,I'm saying, it's not that
complicated.
Earl (41:22):
There's some pretty simple stuff, if you will put it that
way.
It's.
It's not hard to see, andotherwise you're somebody that's
hey, like I said, that's a, youcan call that.
Zack (41:33):
You can call the Bible conspiracy, yeah.
(41:35):
I mean a lot of people do.
Zack (41:37):
Don't believe in it.
Well, I feel sorry for them.
I truly do, and I was like ifyou don't believe in Jesus, I
want you to understand this theripping and tearing of your
flesh from your body, thegnashing of teeth I mean the
gnashing of nails and grittingof teeth for the rest of your
life you won't see nobody.
You won't see no friends,because you know you got friends
(41:58):
out there.
Everybody knows, everybody'sgot that one friend you know is
going to hell.
You're not going to be downthere and see him and give him a
high five.
You're going to hear his assscream in the dark.
You're not going to see anybody.
It's not going to be a partyForever.
Yeah, yeah, it's not going toget down.
Get down, no it's not going tobe a P Diddy party.
It's going to be P Diddy parties, for sure.
You know what I'm saying Ain'tno telling what's going to be
(42:20):
happening to P.
Diddy.
Yeah yeah, that's going tohappen to him.
Future of P Diddy would be like, I guarantee you we should
start that.
We should make our own moviethe Future of P Diddy.
I guarantee we'd go viral.
This might go viral right nowTalking about P Diddy, p Diddy
(42:45):
this, p Diddy that.
Earl (42:47):
You might for PED.
Yeah, you might go to PED.
(42:51):
You know, think about it though.
Zack (42:52):
Who can I even listen to anymore?
R Kelly PEDD.
You know you can't listen tonobody's music without being in
the wrong.
Earl (42:58):
Michael Jackson Damn it.
Zack (43:00):
Hey, you know, Michael Jackson, I don't believe none of
that shit.
I don't think, so you don'tconnect well, I think I don't
think he, I don't think hemolested kids.
I think that truly loved kids,but I don't know.
I mean, I don't know, I thinkthey made him look that way.
I think people can be reallysick and do both to control him.
Earl (43:22):
I think people can really be sick and do both or not even
know it well they can do both.
Like I said, they can be reallyfocused.
(43:29):
They still have these cases.
Earl (43:31):
They, they have individual cases of this shit happening
where they did this and eventhough they were overall.
This People aren't perfect.
Zack (43:41):
People ain't stupid though either.
Earl (43:43):
No, you're right, Michael Jackson was evil.
Zack (43:45):
people that do evil things too, it's that evil person that
let his kids go over there andsay oh look, he's got all the
money in the world.
We're going to send you overthere, son, and say, hey, he
touched me here.
Earl (43:56):
Yeah, but I don't know.
The same way he had this otherupbringing.
He wanted to blame his parentsand these other things I don't
know.
But then there's other peoplethat I want to say that were
like prophets.
Zack (44:08):
I'm just waiting for them to let the Hernandez twins.
No, no, the other one.
Oh, the 500 in South America,900 or something.
Yeah, what was his name?
Jim Jones, jim Jones, jim Jones, jj.
Earl (44:18):
And he was like a prophet before that.
Zack (44:20):
Oh was it JJ.
Earl (44:20):
But if you look back and people didn't know that he was
doing this.
He had the plan from thebeginning he was planning, yes,
but there are people that stillbelieved all along the way.
But you didn't know until theend that it was set up.
Zack (44:37):
You damn bet you, you damn bet you.
Earl (44:39):
I know it's hard to conceive.
You're blinded by the hey howmany?
Zack (44:44):
The devil can come to you, the angel of light people.
Earl (44:47):
I know but how many he comes to?
(44:48):
you as exactly exactly what you need to see at the time.
Zack (44:52):
So don't believe in a dream.
This guy said hey, I want youto go outside and cure yourself
because God's ready for you.
Hey, that's not God, but he'dbeen grooming them for that.
Earl (45:00):
That's right.
He'd been getting them readyfor that Same way with other
cults, but he was one that waslike a mainstream.
He was bringing everybody inwhatever multiracial, absolutely
, anti-racial, absolutely.
He had these people.
Let's go down here in SouthAmerica and we're going to start
a city.
And da, da, da.
Not that everybody was justswept away all the way, but he
had a systemic when you go backand look at it.
Zack (45:21):
Some people just need that when you look at it from the
end.
Yeah, absolutely, I know.
Earl (45:29):
Yeah, yeah, you do, but I mean he wasn't a prophet going
around and he went off thetracks.
Zack (45:33):
Yeah, there's a bunch of those still everywhere he had
the plan.
Earl (45:36):
He had the plan from the beginning.
Zack (45:37):
Absolutely.
Earl (45:37):
He knew he was evil Yep.
Zack (45:39):
He knew what he was doing was what he wanted that reporter
said Jerry Lee, I hope you soldyour soul to the devil.
He said I did.
Next question he didn't evensmile.
Earl (45:49):
he said I did and some other people too.
There's lots of people.
I've seen other people say thatI'm telling you that's a, and
that's a.
Zack (45:55):
That's a, jim Jones that's a.
Earl (45:58):
It's like that's what it is.
That's what it is they knewbecause he knew it from the
start.
He's like hey, or like whatwould you do if you could sell
yourself all for my kids?
And then I know, but I mean, no, no, there's plenty of people,
that's right, that's when youhave them they have an answer
too quick take me.
Zack (46:16):
You know what?
The answer is too quick yeah,take me.
Still take me.
Yeah, it's a, I mean, I wouldn'twell that's no.
Earl (46:24):
No, but do you hear me?
Zack (46:25):
dude.
That would be, that would bethe thing that would that he
could say hold over my head.
Yeah, hey, if you'll do thisfor me, I'll give you kids back.
Oh man, exactly, help me, god,help me now.
Earl (46:36):
That's the bargain, the devil made Help me.
Jesus, what's the bargain thedevil made?
Zack (46:42):
What did you need?
Oh man, Don't even get mestarted.
What did?
Earl (46:44):
you need.
Right, that's what I'm saying,that's it, that's it.
It's like the story of Job.
Zack (46:49):
People love the story of Job.
The story of Job is terribleyeah it is.
He said where have you been?
It's God sitting there with allthe God's children, it's
talking about the angels.
And he says, hey, he saidthey're sitting there.
And God is mad.
I mean basically Becausethey're waiting on Beelzebub,
they're waiting on the devil.
And he gets there and he's likehey, son, where have you been?
(47:17):
He said I've been between twoworlds trying to destroy man, he
said.
And if it weren't for that damnJob, I'd done have them all.
He said Job would never haveturned to you.
Earl (47:24):
It was a bet y'all.
I've never heard a time likethat.
It's like Abraham.
Zack (47:26):
It was a bet, bro.
It was a bet.
No, I bet y'all can make it beon my side, I bet you can't make
it be on your side.
He said everything was farmertalk.
Drop the hedge around from hisheart.
He said I'll drop it from hisheart, but I won't drop it from
his soul.
So you can turn his heart ifhe'll turn, but I'm telling you
he won't.
But his soul will always bemine because he's my favorite,
or one of my favorite.
You know what I'm saying?
(47:47):
Basically Destroyed everythinghe had, Everything he loved,
Everything.
Earl (47:51):
Everything.
Zack (47:51):
Everything, of course.
Then he gave him a whole otherfamily and wealth and everything
else, but still had to gothrough all that I know, yeah,
but even then I can't wait formy wealth.
Earl (47:58):
Where's my wealth at?
Let's test Abraham?
You know this life is bad.
Zack (48:06):
What am I Redo?
Earl (48:07):
Take your son You've got to.
I have a hard time with that.
Right, I have to study it.
Zack (48:11):
Moses was a killer man.
Moses was a murderer.
Earl (48:14):
Easily, I'll bet you Easily.
Moses is quite a character inthe bow.
Zack (48:18):
And I understand him better than his mother.
Earl (48:20):
I understand that better than.
Zack (48:22):
He is the only person talked about from birth till end
of life in the Bible is Moses.
Earl (48:27):
Yeah, he didn't have a gap .
Zack (48:28):
That's pretty cool.
Earl (48:30):
Yeah, yeah, I understand a lot more his being a flawed
human being than I do some ofthe others.
It's hard like like you talkabout, like uh.
Zack (48:36):
Joe.
Earl (48:37):
Abraham and stuff like that.
As far as, yeah, like I said,others just struggle to study.
Oh, you're putting the guitardown.
Zack (48:47):
That means put it down, but put it away, james put it
away yeah, it's about time I wasabout to tell you to play us
out a song oh, I got one Play usout.
Play us out a song.
You got one.
It was too square.
I was about to say is the nutscoming?
Earl (49:03):
up, come on down for these nuts Come on down for these
nuts.
Zack (49:14):
Proud sponsor of this wild ass podcast is Love's Barbecue,
where you can get you a nut anda mouthwatering steak and a
free beer.
You can't ask for more.
Earl (49:22):
Buck nuts.
Zack (49:24):
Only restaurant guaranteed you get a nut, a mouthwatering
steak and a free beer.
You know what?
I'm saying that is a restaurantright there, boy.
I should bring people in.
That's a fact, though it's true, and it is and it's, it's as
bad as it for me.
It's hard for me to say butlove's nuts are good yo you know
(49:46):
, I mean it is, it's squirrelnuts, squirrel nuts, it's good
you got the buck, nuts them boys, boys are good.
Come on down to Love's.
I mean, they are good.
Them nuts is good.
You can actually get real nutsevery once in a while Calf rice
you have it every once in awhile.
That's true, but I'll tell youright now you go get some of
them, buck nuts.
Earl (50:03):
Them.
Nuts are always on the menu.
They are always good too.
Nuts uh, I don't know about thebest nuts, but it's close to it
.
Zack (50:15):
I got pretty good nuts.
I think you're having troublewith the nut top we're just
nutty, we're just not nutty, butI absolutely do have the best
nuts you know well, there'sprobably some more nuts coming
as.
Earl (50:23):
Uh, that's just what they got.
That's just what there is sofar.
You just got to be I didn'thear it coming you're just gonna
have to be satisfied with thenuts they have now.
No, they're great, I believe.
Zack (50:37):
I've never been there and was not satisfied with the nuts.
You can choose nuts.
It's more than one variety ofnut, you can go with all the nut
.
(50:49):
You can get almost any kind of nut you want.
Zack (50:52):
We got.
We got your nut, I got your nutand it's delicious.
Y'all you just got to come ondown and try it.
Come on down.
Well, it was.
Three crazy friends in ahaunted hospital in a small town
in Texas Couldn't quit the nut,started up a show so they might
(51:13):
get to talk about that nutLove's barbecue.
Be easy, baby.
Be easy, baby Couldn't quit thenuts yeah, I got one coming.
Y'all, though, just stay tuned,stay tuned, stay listening.
Tonight, we're going to saygoodbye for the Be Easy podcast
(51:39):
and we will be talking to yousoon, but until then, I'm Bucky,
I'm Earl, I'm Zach, we are theBe Easy podcast, and we will see
you next week.
How sweet the sound and we willsee you in gray.
(52:13):
I once was lost, but now I'mfound.
I was blind, but now.
I see it was grace that taughtmy heart To fear.
(52:42):
And grace.
My fears Relieved, and how greatmy fears relieved.
And I pray just in my grace Tohear the hour I first believed
(53:15):
my chains were gone and I'vebeen set free.
My Lord, my Savior, he'sransomed me like a dove.
(53:36):
His mercy reigns unending love,amazing grace.
(53:58):
And when we've been there twothousand years, bright shining
and the song, there's no lessdays to sing God's praise than
(54:31):
when we first begun.
God's great, then we'll wefirst be gone.
My chains are gone, I've beenset free.
My Lord, my Savior, he'sransomed me and like the flood,
(55:02):
his mercy reigns unending love,amazing grace.
And like the Lord, his mercyreigns Unending love, amazing
(55:34):
grace.
And amazing grace.
How sweet the sound.
Thank you.
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