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June 12, 2025 47 mins

This week, Dr. Mike Barnes welcomes longtime friend and tech-forward recovery expert Steve Millette, founder of Climb LLC and partner at LifeLab Studios. Together, they dive into the evolution of virtual family programming, weaving together personal anecdotes, clinical wisdom, and an inspiring look at how technology is revolutionizing support for families navigating addiction and trauma.

🚀 From their early days at CEDAR to the cutting-edge design of the Michael Barnes Family Institute app, Mike and Steve discuss:

  • Why virtual doesn’t mean lesser, especially when it comes to accessibility
  • How storytelling and community fuel healing (and yes, even from across state lines!)
  • Why older generations are surprisingly tech-savvy when the content is life-changing
  • What it means to treat family members as clients, not just support characters
  • And how chronic disease models of care are reframing the recovery journey

Whether you're a family member searching for hope or a clinician curious about new models, this episode is a must-listen.

🧠 Insightful. 📲 Tech-savvy. ❤️ Heartfelt. Click play—you just might find your story in someone else’s.

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