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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Teletakoum is a
network of Catholic sisters
against human trafficking.
Sister, what's the youngesttrafficked person that you
encountered?
As early as three years old.
I think, sister,
SPEAKER_01 (00:39):
that it's taking
over the drug business because
whereas you can sell drugs onetime, You can keep using a human
over and over and over again.
SPEAKER_00 (00:47):
Exactly.
Exactly.
And this crime must stop.
So that's why our network isspreading and has expanded
enormously all over the world.
It's not only for advocating,wanting, but systemic change.
We need to get the value.
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Poverty is one factor.
The migration issue is onefactor.
SPEAKER_01 (01:12):
Can you tell me a
story?
Like a particular story that youcan share with the viewers, the
listeners, and how yourorganization
SPEAKER_00 (01:21):
helped?
Yeah, I can share with you myown story because Talitha Koum
is a grassroots-oriented.
Most of our sisters working atthe grassroots, what it means we
are really meeting the victimsand survivors at the grassroots.
So one of my stories is meetingvictims.
And you can tell their stories,most of them, sometimes because
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I came from the Philippines.
My mission was in Japan beforecoming to Rome.
But I met many of women,especially the migrants from the
Philippines, sometimes who werereally victims of exploitation
and abuse.
So the traffickers invited orrecruited all the women.
They were being promised to geta job, especially in Japan.
SPEAKER_01 (02:08):
It's like kind of a
SPEAKER_00 (02:09):
hotbed for
SPEAKER_01 (02:10):
human trafficking.
Exactly.
So they promise people from thePhilippines or other countries
in hopes of a job to move thereto do what?
What do they think they're goingto do?
SPEAKER_00 (02:22):
Yeah, so sometimes
they say it's okay, you can find
a good job in Japan, butsometimes, you know, get
trapped.
They give promises a good job,but they end up doing different
things.
And this is a situation, andsome of the women, of course,
traffickers, they believe whatthey're promised.
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And then sometimes there's acontract, but the contract
they're being promised to is...
SPEAKER_01 (02:49):
I mean,
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anyone can fabricate
a few
SPEAKER_01 (02:51):
pieces of paper,
right?
Exactly.
So they are held, like, in abuilding against their will and
forced to have...
sex with people they don't wantto have sex with, and this goes
on in perpetuity?
Like, how?
SPEAKER_00 (03:07):
It's not only for
sexual exploitation, even labor
exploitation.
Labor exploitation, and theydon't get paid.
For example, the contract wouldsay 1,000 U.S.
dollars a month, and they endedup paying for only$200.
And then this is part of laborexploitation and sometimes the
work in a business that theywere not against their will.
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They've been working in thefishing industry, in the
agriculture industry, andsometimes it's really in a
miserable situation.
This situation is real.
And this is not happening, andit's not isolated in the case in
Japan, but this is happening indifferent parts of the world.
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I know it's
happening even in the United
States, and I think it comes inthrough our borders.
And everywhere I go now, I neverused to see this, but I see...
Human trafficking is a problem.
Even on my hotel room door atthe airport, human trafficking
is a problem.
If you or anyone is affected bythis, call this telephone
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number.
So it must be a giant issue thatno one is talking about.
Tell me, sister, how does yourfaith help you do this kind of
work or interact or intersect
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with this?
because this is our core of ouridentity, not only being a
religious, but as a humanperson, as a woman.
We care for human dignity, thedignities we care for.
So this is my faith, and this isa response, it's a calling of
most of the sisters.
We cannot tolerate women orchildren being sold or being
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slave.
So what we're doing is really topromote a dignity of women.
We promote a human being.
We don't want any moreexploitation.
We value the life.
So this is my core of faith.
So that's why we're trying toengage as many people to join
our campaign to end humantrafficking.
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And this is the teaching of theCatholic Church.
SPEAKER_01 (05:09):
Sister, in like a
day-to-day way, how do you guys
Does another organization gosave the women and children, and
then you guys are a safe house?
Or are you guys the boots on theground going to save these
people?
How does it work?
SPEAKER_00 (05:25):
Yes.
So we don't work alone.
We can only do some.
We have limitation as well.
As a Catholic sister, we arereligious sisters.
But we do a lot of networkingand collaboration, not only the
non-government organization oreven government organization,
other Catholic organizationworking in the same field.
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So collaboration is veryimportant in our work.
So once we receive or the peoplecome to us or the victims, we
communicate with this one andcollaborate with other
organizations.
Most of our sisters also, wehave a shelter, we have a center
that we accompany these women orthe victims that during the
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process or the program of thetransition and until this person
as being re-recovered from thetrauma.
But it's not easy.
SPEAKER_01 (06:19):
It's not easy.
Can you tell us a success story?
SPEAKER_00 (06:23):
Story of Grace.
When we met her, and she was avictim from the Gulf country.
What country?
Gulf country.
Gulf country, okay.
Yes.
So I cannot give youinformation.
It's
SPEAKER_01 (06:34):
okay.
I just wanted to make sure.
I didn't misunderstand you.
SPEAKER_00 (06:38):
Yes.
So one, the sisters met her atthe airport.
So we accompanied her during herprocess, the traumatized, the
psychological and physical.
So until she recovered, sisteraccompanied her in many ways.
And then later on, we gave heran alternative training program
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that she can also empower whatshe needs.
And she says, I want to be achef.
So we gave her a program, justsimple baking, and now she is
recovered, and she's doing hercooking in the street, and now
she's granted a scholarship tobecome a nutritionist.
SPEAKER_01 (07:22):
That's incredible.
What a great story.
SPEAKER_00 (07:25):
Yes.
So this is how we empower thewomen as well, so they're
recovered.
They can really get up fromtheir own suffering.
another person that is also asurvivor.
But she became a founder of anorganization as well, among the
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survivors as well, to empowerthose being abused, the
survivors, to form a shelter aswell.
That's amazing.
So this person is now thefounder of the survivors and
also giving this program andgiving awareness among them.
and she recovered and she's nowhelping others.
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Yes, helping others and ownsshelters as well.
SPEAKER_01 (08:14):
Do you introduce
prayer to the victims or how
does, do you do any of that whenyou take them in as a safe
haven, when Toledo CUM is a safehaven for them, do you introduce
prayer into their lives at allor do you just...
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back off from that?
No, we respect whatever thewomen, especially women are, you
know, the girls, respectwhatever their creed or their
religion, but most of all, theyknow that we are Catholic.
So the sister accompanied them,of course, when they come to
church or prayers, especiallythis story of grace.
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So when she Every day, thesister would go to mass or would
go to prayer, and sheaccompanied him.
So that's it, become inspirationto her.
Oh, I see.
You do it in a roundabout way.
Yes.
I love that.
But most likely, we respectwhatever they are doing.
The religion they are.
I love that.
But we are also, as Catholicsisters, I don't know, we heard
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about St.
Bakhita.
St.
Josephine Bakhita is a patronsaint of victims of human
trafficking.
So we introduced this as acampaign of the Talitha Kumbh.
It's always celebrated,commemorated on February 8th.
I should make
SPEAKER_01 (09:35):
you candles.
I make candles, prayer candlesthat are saint-based.
I should make you Saint Bakhita.
Am I saying it right?
SPEAKER_00 (09:42):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (09:43):
I didn't know her
prior to today.
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So, I mean, she was
also, she herself was a victim
of human trafficking at the ageof eight.
You know what?
SPEAKER_01 (09:53):
Actually, I'm wrong.
I know it.
I know the saint.
She was a she was sex traffickedand then she became a nun.
Yes, exactly.
I know this thing.
I do know this thing.
What a beautiful story she has.
Yes.
From Africa, right?
SPEAKER_00 (10:09):
Yes.
Oh, I do know it.
I mean, she's really...
She's a beautiful story.
A beautiful story, and that'swhy we carry this, and we
promote this every February 8th.
That's her feast day.
It's the feast day of St.
Bakhita.
SPEAKER_01 (10:22):
I will make you guys
a St.
Bakhita candle, because I firstheard about her from Father Dan
Ringhill.
He told me her story, and...
She has, like, she's such aninspirational story as a saint.
SPEAKER_00 (10:34):
Exactly.
And that's why we carry on,because this is the story of
Saint Paquita.
And she herself recovered, youknow, and she forgave her
perpetrator.
You know, the story that she wasa slave, sold, when she was
seven years old, twice already,and she became a nun.
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But she recovered.
The most important is thefreedom and dignity.
That's what the message of St.
Paquita.
And this is how we carry this,and we celebrate it.
Even Pope Francis introduced us.
And Talitha Coombe iscoordinating this every year to
promote this campaign.
We call it, Pope Francisintroduced this since 2015.
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and this is we're already almost11 years.
February 8 is our great campaignand we invite all over the world
to join this campaign, even fromdifferent parts of the world,
the regions, to join thiscampaign.
International Day of Prayer andAwareness Against Human
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Trafficking, and we arepromoting this.
So this coming February, weinvited young people, as well as
survivors, as well ascelebrities, like you, probably.
I'm not a celebrity.
For the media.
is to join our campaign.
Our team for this time isambassadors of hope.
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So because it inspired for thejubilee year, so the message of
hope.
There's always a hope.
If people want to help TalitaCombe, how do they help?
Just to join our campaign, topromote awareness raising.
This network is a CatholicSisters-led network.
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But we also invite young peopleto join our campaign.
And these are young people isnow a protagonist among their
peers because they know thelanguage.
And most of the vulnerable totrafficking are young people.
So we also engage young peopleto give the awareness among
themselves.
Did you watch the movie Sound ofFreedom?
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Sure.
And of course, we were one ofthe, how do you say, Talitha
Coombe is one of the promotersof the Sons of Freedom.
Of course, I would see this as apromotion, an awareness raising
against this crime, and I reallyadmire who promoted this movie.
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And that's why we said the moviemakers, the media, we also help
them to do this awarenessraising through movie, through
documentary, not only the Sonsof Freedom, young people really
engaged this.
When I went to Lisbon, the WorldYouth Day, many young people was
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inspired by this movie, and theyreally would like to help, just
to promote, not only in thecountry that we know, in Africa,
but Asia, but anywhere.
Even in United States, thismonth, is awareness against
human trafficking and nationalawareness against human
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trafficking.
And this has been, we havenetwork in USA that's very
strong also promoting this.
SPEAKER_01 (14:02):
My friend's husband,
Alejandro Monteverde, made the
movie Sound of Freedom.
And it wasn't really supportedin Hollywood, but it ended up by
word of mouth doing really,really well.
And people were like running outmovie theaters personally to
promote the movie and like justby word of mouth, it did really
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well.
But I saw a statistic that saidsomething like in the United
States, there's like maybe inthe world or United States, this
is from when I was watching themovie, there's like 200 million
child pornography videoscirculating.
SPEAKER_00 (14:42):
This is true.
SPEAKER_01 (14:44):
I mean, how is that
possible?
That's insane.
That there is like a market forthat many child porn videos.
It just makes me think that thedevil is up and roaming.
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We have hope.
Sister, who's your favoritesaint?
I have a feeling I know, butmaybe it's another one.
SPEAKER_00 (15:12):
Well, of course,
because this is our, actually
the patron saint, Saint Bakhita.
But one thing is we, of course,promote Saint Bakhita in us as
well, and my own thing.
Because I was born October 4,St.
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Francis is my patron saint, so Ido believe.
Francis of Assisi?
I do believe.
I love
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him
SPEAKER_00 (15:37):
too.
I do believe the power ofprayer, so I really ask the
guidance.
SPEAKER_01 (15:46):
From St.
Francis of Assisi?
St.
Francis of Assisi.
Same with Carlo Coutis.
SPEAKER_00 (15:49):
He
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was like a big
devotee.
Yes.
I have a St.
Francis candle I can give you.
I think we have some here, don'twe?
Yeah, I have some here.
I'll give it to you.
You know what?
I really want to make a St.
Paquita candle and give you theprofits from the candle, give
your organization the profitsfrom the candle.
And I can send some to Italy,and we can have some in the
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United States that we ship.
SPEAKER_00 (16:12):
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
From the
SPEAKER_01 (16:13):
sale of our candles,
we've donated...
$300,000 to St.
Jude Children's Hospital.
Wow.
So we'll do a St.
Paquita candle for TalitaCoombe.
I know you're doing God's workin more than just prayer.
I think it's like really puttingprayer and God's work into
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action.
I really want to thank you forthat on behalf of the whole
world.
If you're doing such a beautifulthing to the most, like...
sad group of people.
Children, women, I mean, mentoo, but it's like people that
almost like can't defendthemselves.
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Exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (16:57):
We have to also be
aware what we are really
contributing.
We're probably not aware thatall of us are contributing.
Just be mindful, especially thechocolates that we are enduring.
Chocolates?
The chocolates.
Like that we eat?
That we eat.
SPEAKER_01 (17:17):
Who would think
this?
SPEAKER_00 (17:18):
It's a child labor.
SPEAKER_01 (17:20):
Wow.
SPEAKER_00 (17:21):
Exploitation of
labor.
If you go to the UNODC, we haveall of this, the United Nations.
SPEAKER_01 (17:30):
UNODC, and we will
see a list of companies to
avoid.
Yes.
Okay, UNODC, to see a list ofcompanies to avoid for
exploiting child labor, abusingwages.
Exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (17:44):
Wow.
Our sisters in the grassroots,they go to the school as early
as elementary school.
Children and young people aremore vulnerable.
So if they are aware that thisis happening, the reality of
human trafficking or itsexploitation, the more it can be
reduced.
So this is our campaign,actually.
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Thank you, sister.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.