Beyond the Obvious: System change begins within
with João Heep
Episode Summary:What if the way we lead, learn, and live isn’t broken — just outdated?In this raw, intelligent, and quietly revolutionary conversation, João Heep shares his vision for real change: not louder, but deeper.
We explore why the next generation doesn’t just want new answers — they want better questions. Why education, leadership, and even money need a different foundation. And how transformation doesn’t begin in strategy, but in the nervous system.
João doesn’t give you a quick fix. He offers something braver:A new kind of presence.
You’ll hear about:– The burnout behind performance culture– Why transformation without embodiment fails– The myth of “fixing the system” from the outside– João’s personal shift from ambition to alignment– Why slowing down isn’t a luxury — it’s a leadership decision
This episode is a deep breath for anyone who's tired of surface-level change — and ready to lead from a new place.
Timestamps:00:02:10 — From school reform to inner reform00:06:45 — “I was performing success — but it wasn’t mine.”00:12:30 — The body always knows first00:18:20 — Why speed and shame are the enemies of change00:27:10 — Leadership, slowness, and the courage to see
Links & Resources:
🎥 Prefer to watch this episode? Check it out on YouTube: https://youtu.be/8Zy6smn0WWY
– Follow João Heep:https://changelis.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joaoheep/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joao_heep/
Projects: https://www.instagram.com/changelis_chances_perspective/
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