Book, Bump or Bury

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
welcome to another episode of the big brothers of
destruction podcast.
It's the maziku it's your boy.
Swag switch in the building andguys, we're back with another
episode and this one's actuallygonna be interesting, kind of
taking up the uh concept fromthe previous episode where we
was doing the uh merry date andlemonade, but we're putting a

(00:34):
little twist on it.
This time we're actually goingto go with the concept of
something we kind of just talkedabout a little bit more called
book bump barry.
So what this basically means isyou're going to be booking this
particular person to the moon,this person who's your ideal
main offender.
And then you also have bump,which is just somebody who's

(00:57):
going to bump into the mid-card,who they're a solid mid-card
wrestler.
There's somebody that that,honestly, they just thrive there
.
And then you have Barry, justsomebody who, ideally, just they
don't really work for you butyou just gotta bury them because
there has to be a fall guy inwrestling, there has to be a
jobber, there has to be somebodythat gets someone over.

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But in this there's some peoplethat we just like.
I don't really like that guy, Idon't really like what that
person presents, and that's whatwe work for me, brother they're
not gonna work.
For me, brother, that'sliterally what it is, and with
this concept, what we're gonnaalso do is time travel with it.

(01:40):
So we're gonna take some peoplefrom a particular era that were
not as popular, who would besmoking popular red hot popular
in that previous era, and putthem smack dab into that era.
So we're actually going tostart off with the first.
Well, I think this is our firstthat we both were introduced to

(02:03):
, and that was the federationyears.
Right, I don't think we watchedthe golden era me personally.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
So I mean in more recent times I've gone back and
I've done a lot of golden erawatching.
But I mean technically I wasraised.
I was raised on the newgeneration era, or at least I
was birthed during the newgeneration era.
And as far as my memory servesme, my most, my most memorable

(02:36):
memories are from the attitudemost whoa.
That was crazy listen it was ahard thing to say apparently,
first off, you have no right, mrWaskley.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Will to Westland hey look, that has created a moment
for our pod.
So I think, if anybody give mesome credit for creating some
shit, you know what I'm saying,wild.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Will to Westland over here trying to spin it, shut
your, because it's what it isshow ass boy.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Hey, ass, motherfucker, that's.
It'd be your own brother, bro,it'd be your brother absolutely.
It'd be your own brother outhere.
So, um, let's go ahead and getright into it.
One of the things I do haveHold on.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Because I was just thinking before we play the game
.
Because we got time, I did wantto.
There were some things thathave come into my mind and I
just wanted to really get yourtake on how you feel about a
type situation, okay, on how youfeel about them type situation.
Just wanted to get these littlequestions out of the way so

(03:47):
that then we can put the rest ofthe time into just this game
that you've cooked up.
Oh boy, alright.
So the first thing is, rightnow, as everything stands, when
you look at the wrestlingbusiness as a whole and the
state of the rest, like how, howare you, how do you feel right

(04:11):
now when it comes to justwrestling as a whole.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Hmm, and while wrestling will never be as
popular as it was in theAttitude Era, they are
constantly trying to make it aspopular as that.
Every year there's some way,shape or form, trying to market
it and get it that Ooh, hit mymic.
They're trying to market it andget it that pop culture

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reference as it was in the 90s.
But think about the 90s.
Man kayfabe was still somewhatof a thing.
And to the wrestlers, and notsaying that, our current, um,
our current rosters are not ascool, but there was a mystique
with those particular people.
Like you know, undertaker,there's austin, there's the rock

(05:03):
, there's triple a.
There was a level of mystiquein these people because
obviously we didn't have socialmedia, we're not into their
lives, we're not into all thosethings and you kind of go off of
the reference of stone coldbeing that one guy who would, in
anybody's eyes, would, go tohis boss and slap the shit out
of him or get him a fuckingstone cold stunner.
So you felt like man, I wantedto be that guy.

(05:24):
I don't really think a lot ofpeople see that in current
roster wrestlers like maybe theymay be inspired to become a
wrestler, but nobody, nobodygets that that big connection to
wrestling, as if you hear aglass break and you suddenly
think of stone cold, or when youcrack a cold one and you

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suddenly drink it like you'restone cold, or you raise your
eyebrow and you start, you startthinking of yourself like the
rock, like there's not thatcultural connection that is
there and the current productproduct is trying so hard to
appeal with it and make it soyou could see it from the inside

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now with WWE Unreal, as if wealready don't know the inside
spills of what's going on inwrestling because of the dirt
sheets and stuff like that.
But they're trying to make itso appealing to other people
that this is a product, this issports entertainment.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
It feels pushed sometimes with certain things
that they do and I don't like itsometimes I, I, I, I feel that
piece, especially that bit where, because you bringing up that,
that unreal, uh, is that what itwas called?
w WWE Unreal yeah, I saw acommercial.

(06:45):
I've been seeing thecommercials for it and I'm just
like I have mixed feelings and Iknow there's a lot of wrestlers
that also especially like olderwrestlers, like Jake the Snake
Cause To a certain degree, whichis one of this also is what

(07:07):
makes like wrestling so unique,because, like To make a
comparison right With whatthey're doing.
When I watch shows like Game ofThrones or the Penguin which,
if you have not watched eitherof those Things, at least watch
the Penguin, because god, if youhave not watched either of
those things, at least watch thePenguin, because God, that

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shit's so bad.
But when I watch shows likethose, normally at the end of
the show they have a look intothe show and when they made it
and the filming of it and stufflike that, and the filming of it
and stuff like that.
And for those two showsspecifically because I know both
of those shows do it I lovegetting that backstage

(07:51):
information and how that personfelt about their character and
how they did this and this tomore engross their brains into
believing themselves as beingthis person kind of thing, and I
think it's great.
However, it feels so weird andodd to do the same type of thing

(08:14):
with wrestling, and I feel it'salmost with the way that we
look at wrestling, especially atour age now, because we watch
wrestling and then we go intothe dirt sheets and look for all
that extra bit.
But I think what this is kindof doing, it's almost as if it's

(08:37):
that thrill of the chase.
It's like we know it's scripted.
Yes, we know the wrestlingitself is real and there is that
chase to want to find out thatbehind the scenes piece.
But this new show is going tobe like hey, you don't have to

(08:58):
chase anymore, we're just goingto give it to you.
And it's like ahhh, why are yougiving it to me that that chase
is like that extra little bitthat keeps you invested in
wanting to believe in in thatsuspension of belief.
Because it's like when it'slike it's that weird thing.

(09:19):
It's like when you play a videogame like you don't want to
game, like you don't want tospoil yourself, go online in in,
spoil it like you want to, youwant to figure it out through
the game as it's going.
You don't want the game to beall like oh, hey, so uh, yeah,
here you go and it's just likeit, it it's.

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It's such a weird thing withwrestling.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
So you know, a perfect example of it is the
John Cena heel turn.
Right, the John Cena heel turnis a thing that we've all, as
wrestlers, have booked for years.
We want to see Cena finally,you know, do that moment where
he backstabs or whatever.
Like we want him to be a heel.
But like we all speculate, isthis, the time is this time is

(10:06):
this time we've done that foryears where there's moments
where cena does very heelishthings and he still gets treated
like a baby face and to know,like the whole back and forth
with him and the rock that wassupposed to build up to him
finally turning heel, and thensome fans were even speculating
that too.
So it's like how speak of Gameof Thrones?

(10:30):
I can't remember the author'sname, what's his name?
The?

Speaker 2 (10:36):
author of Game of Thrones.
Yeah, oh Jesus, rr.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Martin, something like that.
He's even made a statement in apodcast.
He says well, as a writer, whenyou write the book and it's
about the butler, who you knowdid the deed right, if you've
written the entire book andalmost gotten to the end of it
and you know who's supposed tobe the villain or the person

(11:02):
that's going to be the moment,and then your audience starts
knowing it and they startreading dirt sheets or whatever
to find out what it is, and thenyou suddenly change it.
Your audience gets pissedbecause it's like bro,
everything leads up to this onething and it suddenly it doesn't
.
If you, if your plan was this,stick to it.

(11:23):
If you, if your plan was this,stick to it.
And as wrestling fans, thereason why I brought this up is
we speculate a lot when stuff isgoing to happen and then when
you swerve us, we get pissed thefuck off because, like bro, you
were telling us the story, likethe Naomi situation.
We all thought Jay was going toget the title.
Naomi would cash in therebecause it made perfect sense

(11:46):
Like destroy Jade's moment andJade murders you for it.
It'd be Naomi's last title tothe right off in the sun,
because apparently a lot ofpeople are saying she might
retire soon or she don't havemuch time left, or something
like that.
I think she's on a great run.
She could probably still go on,but she probably wants to be a
mom now.
I think she's on a great run.
She could probably still go on,but she probably wants to be a

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mom now.
But whenever Naomi cashed in onIo in that match, what?
You have the story, you havethe story.
So you swerve it because youdon't want it to go the way fans
think it should happen, becauseyou're not going to get that
awe factor, you're not going toget that shock factor like, oh,
we just swerved, you.

(12:28):
Wwe has a history of doing thatand again, that is one of the
reasons why unreal is alsopushing back the curtain even
more.
Okay, we all go to dirt sheets.
We all go to you know thesedifferent sites and they're all
telling us like, oh, this personmay come back at the royal
rumble, this person may comeback at survivor series, this

(12:49):
person is this, this and thatthis person, whatever the
situation is, we go to thesesites hoping that this
information is correct so we cango to our homeboys and be like
hey, yo, I heard a word that, uh, you know, cena gonna do this.
You know, nah, it's not gonnahappen.
It's like nah, nah, nah, I readthat shit right.
And then suddenly it happensand you get that.

(13:09):
What the fuck?
I tell you, bro, I told you,man, I read that shit, this shit
happened right.
It's something so good when youpredict something or when you
find something out and then,like you speculate it to your
boys and it happens.
There's something so rewardingbehind that, something so
rewarding.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
So I'm only with half of that.
Okay, I'm, though, I like thatpart of it, right, I don't mind
the swerve, right, I don't mindthe swerve when I.
What I do mind is when theswerve is ass.

(13:52):
That, yes, because, forinstance, the Naomi thing, right
, that was beautiful, that wasamazing, that was great, that
was amazing, that was great,that was better than them.
Just because sometimes it getstoo predictable.

(14:19):
Yeah, weird things where it's,which is one of those things
where, when we're we're in thisdirt sheets era of fandom, where
you know, we read and we lookto find out what people are
saying backstage, to the pointwhere it's like, you know, we're
like, oh, like, how you weresaying is like, yeah, nah, you

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know, this is what's going tohappen tonight.
I'm telling you, bro, I readabout it kind of thing, and it's
like when it doesn't happen, Ithink that is even better of a
situation, but only if it's donecorrectly.

(15:03):
So, for with what you weresaying, like, yes, the idea of
naomi going on and then, youknow, trying to screw jade out
of her title match and stufflike that, it's like okay, yeah,
it's predictable, it's like allright, yeah, cool, bing, bada,
boom, business as usual, cool,cool, whatever, but I popped
when she didn't.

(15:23):
When we're not anywhere nearSummerSlam for this, and she
comes out there and she cashesin on Eosky and all of them.
That's a fucking moment.
That shit was big, beautiful andamazing, and I think it's like

(15:44):
it's you actually get a pop outof that, as opposed to if we
want to win all the way toSummerSlam and then we're just
sitting there and Naomi's musicis like ah, here we go.
Okay, all right, let's see howthis goes Now.
The only other thing that nowto the, to the statement that I
was trying to make, though.
Let's say that does happen, orthat did happen, and then Naomi

(16:08):
fucking loses.
She cashes in and she loses.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
That's another swerve .

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I would not have popped for that and I think that
would have been a stupid swerve.
And then now, here I am, I'mlike WWE what the fuck are you
doing?
What is this?
What is this dumb shit?
And that's and that's thedifference between with what you
were saying and then what?
What?
Where I feel, on thatparticular bit, swerve is good

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and swerve strickland is alsogood.
However, when you don't swervecorrectly, it crashes and
fucking burns.
Oh yeah, so, so, like that,like going to went, like the
john cena thing right, how you,how they were saying, like you
know, they, they were going tomake him heal when he was going

(17:02):
up against the rock and all thisother stuff and things like
that.
Now, who knows how that wouldhave truly went down, but with
the hindsight 2020, I think itwould have been probably miles
better than this heel turn thatwe got right fucking now,
because the Rock would still beactive, correct, correct Hell.

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If the rock wouldn't haveswerved us and then just not
showed up to wrestlemania.
I think this heel turn wouldhave been amazing if the rock
would have just stuck with theoriginal fucking plan.
Oh yes, but I'll digress fromthat bit.
And so it's like, with this newthing that they're coming out

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with, it's almost as if thatlike I don't know, I feel as if
it's like it's taking cause,like you know, like with this,
this whole thing of, like youknow, are they going to swerve
us, are we going to do this, arethey going to do that?
I feel as if, like it is I mean, granted, it's going to be of
stuff that has already happened,kind of thing, but I just feel

(18:10):
like it's uh, I don't know.
I I feel as if there's we,there's no more curtain, the
curtain's gone, like they've.
They're no longer pulling thecurtain back, they're just you
see everything, and it's like.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
I'll agree that it will be a little too much.
It will be a little too muchfor To kind of unreal the trick.
Whenever they do theWrestleMania untold thing it's
like, but we don't want to.
No, we should not be going thatfar back and then going over
stuff like that.
Why are we doing that?
Why there is no need for us tounderstand the build-up to

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Wrestlemania and saying like, oh, okay, we had the conversation
with this person this, this andthat and we made it happen.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Like, okay, you could do that part, but like the
whole thing I also feel that,like um, because to a certain
degree I'm not completely, I'mnot there's a part of me that's
not completely against it but Ithink what I might be against is

(19:23):
the fact of how soon we'regetting this information.
Like well, you think back in theday, right back when, as some
people call it, the wwe dvd eraof entertainment, um, where is
and they used to make these dvdsall the time time of stuff that

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has happened prior, and I feelthat those DVDs, when they would
talk about certain things,they're talking about things
that are a couple of years inthe past.
That has happened as opposed tofucking yesterday, type thing,

(20:04):
and I feel that that might bethe bit that I'm fighting with
personally, when it comes tothat, I like having just this
illusion that, like you know,you know, if CM Punk and Seth

(20:29):
Rollins just showed up or, justso happens, showed up at the
same Walmart shopping, if theysaw each other, they're probably
going to want to throw handswith each other, kind of thing.
Like I like having thatsuspense of belief, even though
I know that's not going to be athing, because that kind of
kayfabe is unfortunately deadand gone, and man, oh man, how
it'd be.
Wrestling would be so mucheasier if it was still present,

(20:54):
kind of thing like because it'slike I see it in, like it's.
It's something because I've, youknow, I've been going to some
of like the indie promotions andstuff like that and it is.
It's something because I've,you know, I've been going to
some of like the indiepromotions and stuff like that
and it is it's an interesting.
It's an interesting thingbecause it's like I don't.

(21:15):
It's like when with indiewrestling there's a weird like
how far does kayfabe go towardsjust it's just entertainment in
a show?
Because you know, when youfirst get there, you know
there's, there's wrestlerseverywhere, they're just all,
we're all just hanging out,because you know we're all,
we're all friends, we're allboys and we're all here to do a

(21:37):
job type situation.
But then, like, as more peoplecome in and whatnot, then it's
like you know you kind of hangon the locker room or stay in
the back, but then there's likethat weird sense of like once
the show is over, or likesometimes they'll have like
intermission and sometimes youknow when the intermission's
going on, wrestlers will comeout and they'll sell merch.
But it's like do you stay inyour character when you go out

(22:04):
and sell the merch?
So like if you see the personwho you literally just had a
bloodbath of a match with, likeare you gonna go bother them
while you're selling your merchcause, even though they're just
like 30 feet away from you, oryou know?
It's like that little weirdthing and it's like I feel it's
like like that little weirdthing and it's like I feel it's.

(22:26):
It's a in regular wrestling.
It's not too.
You don't see it too too muchkind of thing.
Cause at the cause, you know,kayfabe is alive.
Only kayfabe is alive when youneed it to be alive.
But but I do feel that in anoverall sense that particular
bit of wrestling is and maybe inthe long run it may not be as

(22:50):
bad, but I feel as if it hurtsjust a bit.
I think it hurts the state ofwrestling a little bit.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
I can understand where you're coming from with
that.
Where you're coming from withthat because, god forbid, could
we ever get a Stone Cold andBooker T in the grocery store
moment again, could you imagine?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
That would be interesting.
I don't think he'll ever be asgood.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
I mean, let's just say it doesn't have to be a
grocery store.
It could be any situation,right, any situation.
Just be like, hey, is that justjust going straight at it.
Whatever, you know, I, I feellike those moments would be
great, because it's like, whenyou think about it, even when

(23:46):
they're behind the scenes,they're backstage, right, what
stops them from beating eachother's ass?
Besides suspension and stufflike that?
And I think maybe if we as fansknew, like okay, they can't
fight each other outside thering and like public, because
it'll lead to suspension,because they're athletes and it
should only be in the ring.

(24:07):
Like you know what I'm saying?
It's, it's just like how yousaid before, when you pull back
that curtain and we see, oh, weall hanging out.
Or if you pull back thatcurtain and then you forget that
you're recording and you seethe wrestlers locking heads and
like oh wait, all right, cool,we're on break.
You know, let's just hang out,hey, you know, like the

(24:28):
situation with the pandemic,like shit, like that is.
Like we know wrestling is whatit is, we know it is a product,
it is a storytelling method, butit is a storytelling method
that has rules, and it's theweird part about it when it
comes to anybody watchingwrestling in this era, like

(24:50):
currently, and I said, you knowit's fake, right, and it's like
okay, but so what?
The fucking movies you watch?
So is the show that you watchlike obviously the guy in
breaking bad is not a fuckingactual drug, you know, smuggler
he's a fucking actual drug, youknow smuggler.
He's a fucking actor.
He's a fucking actor.
He can play a character and youcan then associate him with

(25:11):
that specific character.
Only Right.
But I can't take two wrestlerswho built this storyline or
whatever, and say that's whatthey are, and then outside of
this world, they're normalpeople or whatever, and say
that's what they are, and thenoutside of this world, they're
normal people, but you, you, you, apparently everything has to
be real for you and it's like,well, what are these dudes doing

(25:33):
?
This isn't that?
For it's like okay, well,that's the same thing.
You could think about somebodylike will smith playing a
character who was openly gay,but you don't think he is, but
he was acting.
So it's like, come on, likewhere is the line?
Like it's, it's the weird partabout what people see as in

(25:53):
fighting or whatever thatconcept is for them.
And it's just like.
I think people are like, oh, wegrew up out of it.
So, like it's, it's not thesame anymore.
It's like okay, yeah, maybe youfound anymore.
It's like okay, yeah, maybe youfound something new, big whoop,
but don't bash us for it,because we still like this art
form, we still enjoy thisproduct.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, it's.
Uh, I think you actually kind ofhit the nail on the head with
the fact that, um, wrestling andmaybe that's what it is it's
the fact that wrestling followsa certain set of unwritten rules
or unspoken rules, probablymore so unwritten rules that for

(26:40):
some reason, just gets lost onother people.
That, for some reason, just getslost on other people, which is
why it's like cause, which youknow cause once upon a time.
You know it was like wrestlingwas meant to seem like it was
real, but it's like it's like atthis point in the game it's
like okay, y'all can't actuallyuse that, that that scent of
anymore, because it has.
We know it's not real.

(27:02):
It has, we know it's not real,it's been openly said.
It's not real as far as youknow certain bits of it.
But the actual wrestling isreal.
It's just scripted and speakingof you know things being real

(27:23):
and how people take them as real, the the other thing I wanted
to get your point on, or just tohear your take on it how do you
feel about the whole tribalismthat's been going on?

Speaker 1 (27:36):
It's overdone.
It's basically a steak that hasbeen on the grill for too long.
It was rare when it firststarted with the Usos and Roman,
and then suddenly it startedbecoming medium rare.
Well, me, I like a rare steak,but medium rare is normally that

(27:59):
good cut.
For some people it's a good cut.
This is where it needs to be.
And that's when the whole youknow, tribal war and we had
sammy in there good cut of meat,okay.
Then that's when you startedovercooking it, when, all, right
, solo has the ulufala andthey're fighting for it.

(28:19):
Right, this is the best cut ofthe steak after.
Well, like, that's good, thisis the best cut of the steak.
Well, this is the last part ofthe steak before it starts
getting well and you're fuckingit up.
And that's when, ok, romanReigns gets the Ula Fala.
Well, there's nothing else leftfor him now.
Technically, you just basicallysaid the Ula Fala is more

(28:41):
important than the WorldHeavyweight title.
So why would he wrestle foranything else or why would he
care about anything else if henow has his own prized
possession?
Technically, that was evensupposed to be a fucking tribal
chief title, I guess.
I don't know if you saw thephotos for that I have not.
Yeah, there's photos of atribal chief title and it was

(29:03):
Roman's face on it.
It's got the Ula Fala around theplate of the belt and I'm like,
bro, ok, so at that point,medium, well, you're done.
You should not keep doing this,because you have opportunities
to throw all the Samoans youwanted in it, opportunities to

(29:26):
throw all the simones you wantedin it.
And now we're starting gettinginto well territory where, okay,
you're basically telling thesame story as when jacob came,
and jacob's this big bad.
And now you have the um, theother fatu, who came up and he's
supposed to be just as bad, butwait, he's just taller.
Oh, tall Fatu, he's just really.

(29:46):
He's seven feet tall.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Tonga Tala, tonga.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Tala Tonga.
Tala Tonga is just seven feettall.
He's way bigger and badder thanJacob, because he's taller.
That's the story you're tryingto tell us right now.
Bruh, you can't rinse andrepeat the same shit.
And now they're called his mfts.
My guy, I thought that wassomething that was related to to

(30:14):
money at some point, because Icould have sworn mfts were
related to crypto and some stufflike that, or like bitcoins.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
That's with the letter n, nft, nft.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Okay, see, I told you how much I know about that shit
.
But I was like MFT.
I'm like bro, I'm like no wayhe's doing that, but MFT stills
like it's.
Basically, you're now makingacronyms for the fucking
tribalism thing that's going on,and so you have, you still
don't have Zilla, and Zilla isthe one who should be really in

(30:45):
this situation because that'sumaga's son.
So, like what the fuck are youdoing?
Why are you not getting allthese samoans in that one time?
Do you think you can just keeprinsing, repeating the story,
because the fans, I would hope,would start getting tired of it,
of it.
Fuck.
Perfect example Drew McIntyre.

(31:08):
He had made a comment aboutsomebody.
He says hey, if you're reallybored at your job, just turn
your last name to Fatu.
That's all you gotta do.
They'll push you to the moon,they'll put you on TV.
Just turn your last name toFatu.
And I was like damn, thatshould let you know.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
For one.
That wasn't actually where Iwas going in the conversation.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Oh, I heard tribalism .

Speaker 2 (31:41):
My, bad, I heard like the, but I'm glad you was able
to get that off your heart,because I didn't want to stop
you, because I'm like he needsto get this out.
I can feel it.
I can hear it in the tone ofhis voice that he needed to get

(32:01):
this off of his chest Because itwas cooking for a while.
I'm like you know what.
I'm glad I could let.
I'm glad I could be the gatewayto allow you to get this out of
your system, because you neededto get that out.
I was talking about thetribalism Between WWE and AEW.

(32:29):
However, I think you actuallycame up with A better thing to
sweep, cause you came out ofthat one Hella, passionate about
what you had to say With thatbit.
I'm like you know what I'mlaughing, cause.
Speak your truth, brother.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Speak your truth that's some goddamn bullshit,
bro.
I trusted you, bro.
I trusted you, bro.
Speak your truth, brother.
Speak your truth.
That's some goddamn bullshit,bro.
I trusted you, bro, I trustedyou, bro.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
I trusted you.
You needed that to get out inthe open and I'm glad we got
that out.
I trusted you.
Be your own people bro, I'mtelling you, bro, be your own
people bro.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
I'm telling you, bro, it be your own people.
Bro, blotting and shit bro.
Oh God, he was like I'm goingto bait.
He said I'm going to pull aJohn Cena.
Oh, that's a clickbait question.
And boy was that clickbait.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Oh man, oh man.
However, that does lead intosomething else that I didn't
think to want to bring up, butbut it does kind of follow this
interesting line, especiallywith us being gentlemen of color
, and that is the fact that Idon't understand or know when or
why the black community decidedto just cut Samoans off, like I

(34:09):
.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
That is such a crazy thing, because I've been seeing
because they heard apparently umJacob say the N word in a song
and but I feel like goes deeperthan it.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
It's deeper than that and it's like because the one
in my mind, which one?

Speaker 1 (34:33):
the one video where that guy he likes trying to
bring racist that's, that's whatI'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Okay, because, like so, ever since Maz over here, he
sent me this guy who he kind ofsort of like, he does a lot of
touching on certain racisttopics in wrestling and stuff
like that and he's one of thosepeople who is, on that, very
pro-black, you know, mindsettype of thing, black, you know

(35:05):
mindset type of thing, and so,but there was one of the videos,
of the many videos he sent meor actually he only sent me two
and I went and I he was almostin a sense saying like, hey,
listen, samoans are not Blackpeople.
Okay, they have their ownculture, they have their own

(35:35):
thing, but for whatever reason,they allow Samoans to portray
Black stereotypes and it getsthem over, while actual Black
people in wrestling get nothing.
And I'm like that's a bit of a,that's a reach and that's also

(35:55):
like that's such an odd andbackwards mind frame of thinking
, because and maybe I'm just ina weird spot of faking this but
Samoans are as much of Blackpeople as any other person with
dark skin.
The only difference is the factthat they are from an island.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
I mean technically.
Primarily.
We're not from an island, butwe are from a culture that
somewhat can look like Cowboy.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
The only difference between Samoans and your
stereotypical African-Americanis the fact that the Samoans,
they are still very connected totheir roots, that is, from the
island Negroes like you and I.
I don't know what tribe inafrica I originated from.

(36:46):
My blood family came from.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
You know what I'm saying like and none of in most?
I don't well, not most, butsome people are not really
looking for that too exactlysome people, some people are
proud to be, like I'm anafrican-american, I was born
here and all that other stuff,like that's one thing.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
And this is not shooting down anybody who's like
listen, I am anAfrican-American, but you know,
my subsect of family stems allthe way to the Ugandan tribes.
Like, if you know that and youcan and you like to still uphold
to those Ugandan tribe you knowwhat's the word?

(37:28):
I'm looking for Traditions Thenplease do it.
More power to you.
But if you are someone whoupholds to those Ugandan tribe
traditions and you are of darkskin or know, especially in
relations to in america, thatdoesn't make you any less of a

(37:51):
black man, nope, or or any lessof a person of color.
So for people to be all likesamoans are samoans.
They're not.
Because since you sent me thatvideo, it's always as if
Facebook or YouTube have beenlike oh so this is what you're

(38:12):
into, bet, let me give you somemore of these videos.
And I'm just, and it's like letme give you some more of these
videos and content.
And I've been seeing it's not.
There's a lot of people who feelthis way about samoans.
Now, I could, there's a smallbit I could agree with, which

(38:36):
was kind of sort of what you waskind of getting that a little
bit.
It's like all right, sure,maybe wwe is kind of, you know,
lapping on the love of SamoansJust a tad bit much.
But I don't think Samoans, Idon't think, I don't really
believe that the Samoans who arelike being pushed right now Are

(38:57):
being pushed in a way wherethey're Undermining other people
, because most of these Samoanswho are coming to WWE they got
clout from being on the indies,so it's not like they're just
coming in and then they're likeoh wait, you're Samoan, all
right, push you to the moon.
You're Samoan, part of thatfamily.
Push you to the moon.

(39:19):
Now, sure, maybe the fact thatthey are Fatus and Tungans, that
might play a bit of a role init.
But at the same time, theTungans and Fatus that they've
brought in, they were big shitsomewhere else, the Tungalowans,
they were fucking destroyingpeople over there in New Japan.

(39:40):
So it's not like they broughtthem over here and they're like
you're Samoan, we're gonna pushit.
You know what I'm saying.
As you call what you call themTall, tall tongue, tall tongue,
tall tongue.
Like I don't know much abouthim, but from what everyone else
has told me, he was a freaking.

(40:01):
He was a freaking monster On theindies and he had a lot of
clout that followed him.
Same with jacob.
Jacob was making his like I.
I know people and have metpeople in the indie circuit
right now who are all like, ohyeah, no, that man, we love him,
we say nothing bad about thatboy kind of thing, and so it

(40:22):
like these are made men Okay and, as we know, especially with
the WWE we have right now, wweis bringing people in and
pushing people.
Who's going to make them money?
And at the end of the day, allof these Samoans are niggas.

(40:48):
I have under great word fromfriends who have met them and
talked to them they areN-I-double-g-us Okay and so
N-I-double-guh-us Okay.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
I mean real quick, because I even seen a video.
It was like Jacob was sayingsomething to somebody or
whatever.
And Jacob, I don't think I'mdoing anything against them,
because they were throwing upsigns, but they were gang
affiliate, Like him and Zilla.
They were throwing up Like beesand stuff.

(41:29):

Speaker 2 (41:33):
There is a video of Jacob Fatu years ago, like over
10 years ago, right, and it wasat a family reunion, all right
now I think, since jacob fatuhas definitely changed.
But you know, jacob, he's,there's no secret, he's been to

(41:55):
jail yeah, they even use it asan angle on smackdown oh yeah,
that part.
But like he's, you know, it'slike he's been to jail and it's
like he he is.
And that video that I saw ofhim, this was like, like I said,
it was like someone died in thefamily.

(42:17):
It was like 15 years ago and soit's like you see all the
family members.
And it's funny because I'mlooking at this and I'm like,
damn, this feels like a Blackpeople funeral.
The only difference is the factthat even the guys have really
good hair.
That's what makes Samoansbetter than niggas to a certain
degree.

(42:37):
Samoans have great hair Becausetheir hair they don't have to
straighten it, they don't haveto put a hot iron to it to make
it just be straight and flowyand shit their hair just
naturally does that boy or girl.
So I can understand why niggasprobably hate on samoans a
little bit when it comes to thatbit.

(42:58):
But it's like he was oh my, itwas like it.
Like I watch it and in my mindI'm like man, I wonder if he
looks back on this and getsembarrassed, because he was like
I'm talking.
It's like, hey, what's up?
Some you know this is my uncle,we hear that Like he was just
going at a funeral and I'm justlike oh, jacob, you were so

(43:22):
young, so foolish so immersed inthe streets, so exactly.
And so product of the streets.
So exactly, you're a product ofthe streets, exactly 100%.
Not any streets, but thestreets of California.
And I'm like for people to getso upset about him saying nigga

(43:45):
in a track with Rakeshi and mymom, like have we forgotten that
he is Black?
Or has the Black community likehow did the Black community
accept Gingers, which I alsohumbly accepted to the Black

(44:07):
community of family?
They are our red velvet cousinsbut then we drop Samoans,
people who have been with usfrom day one, like it's
craziness to me.
I don't understand why peopleare doing that.
If anything, they're like ourstrongest allies.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Outside of the Latin community.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Exactly.
It's like I don't understandwhy people are, unless it's just
a jealousy factor, thateveryone's just really jealous
that the Samoans are getting allthis star time and all of this,
because then they'll bring uppeople like the like the street

(44:59):
profits are like man.
You know the Samoans gets allof this stuff and Samoans can
can do rap and act hood and thugand all this other stuff.
But then you know people likethe street profits, you know
like no one cares and I'm likeno, that's not it, no, that's
not it straight profits.
You know, like no one cares, andI'm like, no, that's not it.
No, that's also in in one ofthe videos that you showed me.
It was, oh, no, one of thevideos that I found that was
talking about this type of thing.
They're all like you know.
They're talking about xavierwoods and kofi kingston and how

(45:22):
you know they, they had.
They're like you know they.
They were poking fun at thefact that you know how the Usos
can wear the fitted caps and behood, while Xavier was the Kofi
Kingston you know, ooh, you're,you're, you're camera.
Oh, no, I'll say, like,whenever you try not to move so

(45:44):
close, cause, when you movecloser camera, like it's crazy
and fuzzy, you got it Like he'strying to focus in, but close
your camera like it's crazy andfuzzy, you got it like he's
trying to focus in, but it'slike they're talking about how,
like kofi kingston and andxavier woods are being portrayed
as like nerds and I'm all likebro, have you do?

Speaker 1 (45:57):
you not know who they are?
Have you not watched up, up,down, down you feel me?

Speaker 2 (46:04):
I'm like bro.
That's because they are nerds.
That's what they kofi kingstonand xavier woods are being
portrayed as exactly who theyare.
I think the street prophets arebeing portrayed as exactly who
they are.
If the if they would have hadthe street prophets come out of
there with freaking fitted capsand baggy pants, that would be a

(46:28):
horrible choice, because that'snot who they are.
That's not the type of niggathat you're supposed to.
That's not the type of niggathey relate to.
They relate to niggas like us,the suburb boys.
It is what it is.
And it's like the Usos, jacobFatu, especially Jacob Fatu Like

(46:54):
, yeah, like those guys, thoseare hood boys, all right, and
just because they came from anisland does not mean anything,
because they are still black andI don't know if you know we've
forgotten in these later years,but it's like you know, if you

(47:15):
would have taken one of them,tongueas, taking you, taking one
of the street prophets, takingKofi Kingston, put them all in a
line and put them in front of aKKK member, you know what that
motherfucking gonna say you'reall and you deserve to die.
And so it's like so we're stillblack to them.

(47:36):
We're still black to them, andI don't know why we don't just
yeah, unify.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
It's interesting you say that because in the comments
I did see a lot of people sayokay, but but who's going to
stop him from saying it?
That's all the comments I keptseeing.
But who's going to stop that?

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Facts, facts.
Who you tell him he can't saythat?
No more.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
That's literally every comment I saw.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Alright, brother, tell him.
Go to him and tell him youcan't say that shit no more.
See what happens.
He'll slap the black off you.
He'll hit you so hard you can'tsay it no more.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
literally yo, not you getting the black card slapped
out of you.
That's crazy.
But nah, that's what I'm saying, like when you were telling,
when you were, I'm letting youcook.
I'm like I I've only ever seenone comment of somebody doing
that woke shit.
And I'm like every othercomment's like but he is one, or

(48:56):
like but who gonna stop him?
Name one person who gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Outside of an AK-47?
Not you.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
So I just find that funny.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Oh man.
But yeah, I'm glad you took itthere.
I'm ready to do this littlegame that you came up with.
We can talk about actualtribalism next time.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Oh my God, All right, so bringing this back.
So Now you remind me of it too.
Fuck, all right, so bringingthis back.
We're going to go into bookbump or bury?
Fuck, alright, so bringing thisback.
We're going to go into bookbump or bury.
Okay, and again, like I saidbefore on the rules, we're going

(49:55):
to take a specific error andwe're going to throw it into the
attitude error and say whichone of these wrestlers would
still be prominent or who wouldwe want to book Bumper Bear.
So again, the rules.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
I also feel only because, like, we talked about
it off camera, but I also feelwe should, you know, just throw
it out there and maybe for, like, the next time, if the fans and
our watchers decide if theywant to go with that route,
cause we came up, he came upwith book Bumper Bear our
watchers decide if they want togo with that route because we
came up, he came up with BookBumper Barry, but there was a

(50:36):
previous idea of doing it and,as for this one, it's called BBB
.
There was the BBC and I want tothrow it out to the fans out
there, our watchers would youprefer the BBB or do you want us
to do an episode where we'rerunning the BBC?

Speaker 1 (50:59):
yo, that's, I'm running the nah bro, that nah
nah put it in the comments, letus know.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Nah, let us know in the comments it literally be ayo
, ayo swag in the comments.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Let us know.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Nah, let us know in the comments.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
It literally be Ayo Swag, give me your BBC.
Yo, that's crazy, you can't.
You can't say that shit.
You can't say that shit, that'scrazy.
What, what?
You can't see that can you justno cause it like now.

(51:37):
You gotta explain it every time.
Nobody else is going aroundsaying alright, man, give me
your BBC on this roster, give meyour.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
BBC on this roster cause this stands for?
Because BBC was what it wasBook Bump and Cut Em.
Oh, book Bump and Cut Okay, gotit as opposed to Barry.
So let us know, would youprefer Book Bump or Cut, or Book

(52:09):
Bump and Barry?
Let us know, I'm curious toknow and if we get enough, then
maybe we'll do one where we dothe BBC instead.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
But here's the thing Now if we go interview people
and be like all right, so what'syour BBC?
Like you can't go to interviewswith that bro.
Like Mike, he goes askingeverybody what's their Waffle
House order, right, we can't goto people.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
The fuck, I mean you can't go into an interview and
ask somebody what's your BBCcold Turkey?
You gotta, you gotta, ease intothat shit.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
So what would be funny of a clip, though, is if
you explain to them like hey,this is a book, bumper cut, Boom
, boom, boom.
And then all right, cool.
Then all of a sudden be likeall right, so tell me what's
your BBC, tell me what's yourBBC, and they'd be like what are
you talking about?
The Bumper Cut, oh what?
And it just could be.
Nah, nah, nah, I ain't gonnaanswer that question.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Although I ain't gonna lie, I absolutely would
ask them.
So give me your BBC and thenwait for the response.
Like no, like Book Bumper Cut.
Like which one would you?

Speaker 1 (53:27):
do Like you.
I'm gonna be there for thatfirst panel or whatever we do,
and you're with a wrestler andyou do that shit.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
I cannot wait to see that reaction actually, and the
funnier thing would be to do islike alright, so um uh uh, give
me your BBC.
Bobby Lashley, shelton,benjamin Farouk Farouk I just
threw him in there.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
You know what, as a leader, I'm going to do a quick
one, real quick.
Bobby Lashley, shelton Benjamin, that's Fuck, actually, that's
a tough one.
That would be a tough one.
It would sound bad if I say yo,bobby Lashley, who you bumping

(54:21):
and who you cutting BecauseShelton Benjamin should be
booked.
But it's fucking, bobby Lashley, you can't Itley like you can't
like it's like you can't getmad if I say, bobby Lashley, I'm
booking to the moon.
And then I'm like SeanBenjamin's been in the mid card
for ages.
Man, he should get that.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Push so off gate.
You are cutting Farouk, is whatyou're telling me yeah, and
that's all.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
I can't cut Farouk because attitude error Farouk,
that Attitude Era Farouk, he wasa great mid-carder but I'm like
at the same time as a book tothe moon, no, so it's like
you're putting me in apredicament that's so dash

(55:07):
fucked up.
That's what that.
Dash fucked up, that's whatthat?

Speaker 2 (55:11):
that's fucked up, although I am glad that you gave
it, gave me your thought onwhat it would be.
But to a stranger, if I walkedup to someone and said, all
right, give me your bbc farouk,bobby lashley and shelton
Benjamin, they're probably goingto be hella confused.
Because they'll be hellaconfused in the sense of like,

(55:34):
alright, bbc, you give me a listof three black guys.
I don't like where thisquestion is coming from.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
That's what I'm saying bro, no, bro, it's in 4K.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
No, bro, that's crazy .

Speaker 1 (55:48):
In 4K.
That's a canon event.
You can't nahbc or bbb.
Hit us up.
Let us please, please, please,choose the bb, please, please,
because I thought about it atfirst and I'm just like man,
that's gonna fly anyway.
So we're going for a particularera and with the arrow I'm

(56:08):
going to do federation and aGeneration, by the way, I'm
doing Federation.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
So we're going to say hey for the Federation and New
Generation era.
Who are some of these wrestlers?
Who would be people you wouldbook, bump or bury?

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Now wait before you do it's, because it's three
different ones.
What is how many names are onthe list?

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Ten, so should we.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Well, so let me see here Three, nine, whoever is the
last name on the list, we'llcut that last one.
Because we'll do nine, becauseI want to, because I think this
will make it even more difficult.
Instead of just giving the fulllist, we're going to do it in

(57:05):
threes, and so just go downfirst three names, for next
three, for next three, nextthree, next three.
Don't change it should.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
I randomize it nah, just.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
However, it's laid out right now on the on that
list that she got.
We're just going to go downthat list, fuck you all right.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
So Hulk Hogan, macho man, randy Savage, oh god, jake
the Snake, jake the Snake Rock,you fucking bitch.
I'm gonna tell you this rightfucking now.
I'm gonna tell you this rightfucking now, booked up or cut
out of those three Motherfucker.
Right now, it's Jake the SnakeRoberts, immediately booking

(57:44):
that bitch.
I mean immediately.
That was my guy, okay, but nowyou put me in a predicament of
keeping Macho man Randy Savagein the midcard, and I don't want
to do that.
I don't want to do that Becausethis fucking Macho man, randy
Savage, fuck Hogan.
Okay.
Bury that motherfucker, okay.

(58:08):
Granted, we have to thank himfor his contributes to wrestling
the Hulk.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Hogan character.
Sometimes, to a certain degreeyou gotta separate the Hulk
Hogan character from TerryVallejo.
Nope he said no to it, even asHulk.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Hogan, even if it was Terry, even Hulk Hogan, the
whole Undertaker situation tothis day is petty Listen.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
I love that Undertaker.
Every chance he gets he shitson Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Yeah, because you should, because you should,
because of that moment, bro, hedidn't even touch the chair.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
It's, it's, yeah, you're right, Like Hulk Hogan,
he, he did some things there's,there are, there are small
things that I'm like.
You know what I feel, you and Ihear you, hogan, you know cause
it is.
It is the business that we'rein, or that you're in, but at
the same time, like there's,there's just certain things, but

(59:08):
um, I mean as Triple.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
H said it as Triple H said it at one point.
It's like yo if you're nottrying to backst.
There's just certain things.
But yeah, as AAA said it at onepoint, it's like yo if you're
not trying to backstab people,if you're not trying to push
yourself up to the top, thenyou're in the wrong business.
You should be doing thatbecause your spot is more
important than the next guy.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
And that particular statement is the reason why
there are, to a certain degree,the Hulk Hogan mind frame.
I can't completely argue withit, but but but there are other
things that he has done.
It's like, with that particularstatement, I can't get mad at

(59:49):
Hulk Hogan.
It's just all the other dumbshit that he did.
That particular statement, Ican't get mad at Hulk Hogan,
it's just all the other dumbshit that he did.
That's like.
You make it really hard for meto want to defend you to the
point where I just can't no more.
But yeah, cut Hulk Hogan.
Yeah, it's kind of hard to saywho to bump and that's why I

(01:00:16):
said fuck you bro.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
That's why I said fuck you, boy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Maybe we should have shuffled a little bit because
that was rough.
But at the same time thoughthat's the game I'm probably
going to have to I'm probablygonna have to book, uh, because
if I'm, if I'm burying hogan,then I have to book.
Macho man, of course you would,and that's hard to say, because

(01:00:46):
I also love me some freakingjake the snake snakes are my
favorite things.
Pause.
So who's the next ones?

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
So the next one would be the next three Ultimate
Warrior, which this doesn't makesense for this next one
Ultimate Warrior Bobby the BrainHeenan and Mr Perfect, for what

(01:01:24):
it's worth.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Mr Perfect, I'm booking.
Yeah, same, I'm booking.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Mr Perfect, I'm booking the fuck out of him,
having him go against like kurtangle, even triple h at his
prime mr perfect should havebeen a world heavyweight
champion guy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Yes, did I don't think he's only.
He was only in our car now,only in our car.
He never, he never got thatworld heavyweight title and he
really should have because, likeup until he died.
Mr Perfect and you not because,mr, mr Perfect did the Dolph

(01:02:00):
Ziggler thing is what?
Like literally, or should I sayDolph Ziggler did the Mr
Perfect thing is what happened.
It's just that Dolph Zigglerdid find he did finally make his
way out of mid-card land andwas able to at least peak just a

(01:02:20):
little bit above Main EventJobber, because that's the only
thing Mr Perfect was.
Mr Perfect was definitely aMain Event Jobber and he
deserved better, which is why Ibook him who doesn't?

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
still, when they're chewing gum, spit it out and
smack it.
Come on now.
So much swagger.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
I'm probably cutting oddly enough.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Nope, not even oddly, not like I think I'm cutting
Warrior, but how would you bookBobby in a midcard Like he's a?
That's what I'm saying.
That's the weird part.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Because?
Well, because he's a manager.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
So, that's why he's not.
How could you book him in themidcard if he's only a manager,
unless you're booking him nextto a mid-card talent?

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
um, I mean, yes, that that would be what I have to do
, kind of like.
But booking him in the mid cardis like having curtis axel with
paul hayman in uh, in in ryback.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
You know what I'm saying oh no, Don't remind me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Yeah, those were some sad times, but still, that's
mid-card booking and honestly, Ifeel like Bobby DeBray Heenan
has actually spent a lot of histime in the midcard, but he
pushes people to the main event,so shake my hand because this

(01:04:00):
is a.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
this is a very, very, very agreed upon decision and I
can completely agree with youon booking Mr, putting bobby in
the mid card and getting thefuck rid of an ultimate warrior.
So you can kindly shake my hand, as this is a totally agreed

(01:04:24):
upon I can, I can get behindthat.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
That is our first I feel because, like when it came
to Ultimate Warrior, like it'sfunny, because I remember my
brother saying, like when he wasa kid he liked Ultimate Warrior
.
And I feel that if I was a kidI might have liked the idea of
Ultimate Warrior, but UltimateWarrior, where the idea was cool

(01:04:51):
and whatnot, like he wasn'treally good wrestling.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
No, he was a character.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Yeah, he was definitely a character and it's
like I like that calm, thatmedium between you know what I'm
saying.
I mean'm saying he does kind offit some of my builds because
he is at least a big dude.
Those are like my like he'svery monster-esque.

(01:05:26):
I think if they would haveactually build Ultimate Warrior
as just a full-on Like, imagineif Ultimate Warrior was a
full-on monster heel.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Ooh where he was, a warrior who was trying to
sacrifice you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Yeah like something like that.
Or like, just instead of himbeing a good guy and whatnot, he
was literally just out there tojust bust motherfuckers' heads
in, like kill, Ultimate Warrior,like literally keep everything
about him the same, but he'sactually just going out there to
just destroy people.

(01:06:02):
I think that would have beengreat.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
So this next one, because of who the last person
is, I can't automatically cutthem, I can't.
So you're gonna have to do fourin this one.
You have to because you gottaknow the fourth one Bret the
Hitman, hart, rowdy, piper, rickRude, andre the Giant.

(01:06:26):
You can't just cut Andre theGiant can't like you, you can't
just cut Andre the Giant, youjust can't oh okay, I see what
you mean because of the way thatthe list was and so.

(01:06:54):
I can tell you, off rip, I'mpushing Roddy Piper give me the
list one more time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
It was Roddy Piper.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Bret Hart, rick Rude and Andre the Giant gotcha.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
so and Andre the Giant Gotcha.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
So, so, real quick.
I'm pushing Rick Rude, I'mpushing excuse me, I'm pushing
Roddy Piper.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
I'm damn, I'm bumping Rick Rude bumping Rick Rude to
the main event, got it no, no,no, he's bumping him to the mid
card oh, so putting him down gotit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
I feel like he's such a creep okay, roddy Piper, but
I feel like he's such a great.
Okay, roddy Piper, because Ifeel like he'll be an excellent
champion, because you know, hehas the he has.
He's not the best wrestler inthe world, but he has the

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charisma that people would love.
You know, I'm going to have tokeep Bret Hart in the midcard
because, as he is a workhorse,the midcard is normally where
the workhorses go.
As much as I would like RickRude to be there, because he
would be a great heel champion,and Andre the Giant, I don't

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want to cut him because I feellike him versus I don't know him
and Big Show would not be agood idea.
Two giants in the ring likethat is not a good idea.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Two giants going at each other is usually a death
sentence.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Yeah, so in the Attitude Era I don't see much
depth for Andre the Giant, soI'd probably cut him.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Cutting Andre Um so or burying actually.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Yeah, burying, yeah, actually, because that way, at
least with Andre, at least withAndre, at least with Andre, if
you bury him, you're burying himto people who really need it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Burying on.
That's such an interestingthing to just visualize.
I know I mean at the same time,unfortunately, I mean in his
defense.
Andre was also like he was sickand he was unfortunately on his
way out.
We're talking about thatwrestler oh, I know what you're

(01:09:42):
saying, but I was saying like inAndre's later years he was kind
of buried, he kind of althoughit's weird because like he
wasn't though he was still ofburied, he kind of he was kind
of although it's weird, becauselike he wasn't, though he was
still being presented strongly.
So it was like even in hislater years he didn't do a whole
lot of losing and whatnot Imean, but for me I'm, I'm, no, I

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can't say that with a straightface.
So I think I would yeah Withthis particular group Because,
depending on With certain thingsthat if I say people would
probably look like I feel likeyour options were the safe
options.
With the things that I'mthinking in my mind, yeah, no,

(01:10:40):
I'm gonna get, I'm gonna getcanceled.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
People are gonna be like, wow, this dude swag don't
know wrestling go ahead speak onit because Because I mean, yeah
, somewhat Mine was somewhatsafe because it was like I mean
I would prefer Rick Rude as abump in the mid-card, but like
you still got to respect theworkhorse that is Brett and he
would make the mid-card good too.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
So I think I would bump.
So let's see here.
So let me start with Book Iwould bump.
So let's see here, let me startwith book, I would book.
I want to book Rick Rude.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
I can respect that.
I want to book Rick Rude.
I can respect that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
I would, I would.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
I know it's getting tough with Sprat Hearts in there
, bro, because it's Brat, it'sbecause it's Brat, it's because
it's Brat.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Not just because it's Brat.
But then there's also RoddyPiper.
Roddy Piper's the hard one, butlike crazily enough, I think
out of the two I'd probably buryRoddy Piper and I'd have to

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bump Brett Hart.
No, I know, I bump Bret Hart.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
No, I know, I know it's crazy.
No, it's crazy, roddy bro.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
It's crazy, and it's because of those things, it's
because of the fact that it'sbecause of those facts, I have
to cut Andre as well.
I didn't want to cut Andre as amatter of fact.
At first I was going to bookhim.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
In an attitude error.
You would have booked him withthe strap.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
I would have booked him, or at least that's what I
first thought.
And then, when I first thought,I was like yeah, I would book
them, and then I thought aboutit.
I'm like that's a terrible idea.
Exactly that is.
That is absolutely horrendous.
Why would?
Why would you do that?

(01:13:03):
That is, that is a that isputting your company at a death
sentence.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
That is a death sentence.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
That is a death sentence and it's like I have a
lot.
But I have a lot more respectfor Andre the Giant than putting
him in the mid card or buryinghim, because burying Andre the
Giant is a stupid idea it is.
It's so dumb, which is some ofthe problems that we have right

(01:13:32):
now.
Why are we burying giants Likeyou?
Either use them properly orjust don't fucking use them at
all, which is why we have notseen Omos, because boy oh boy,
they did not know how to usethat boy, and I don't think they
still do and if he comes back,I feel as if there's still
nothing for him to do.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Nope, his sunset is gone.
He needs to just stay in Japan.
Japan knows what to do with him.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Yeah, listen, they love doing things for Giants.
I feel that the last time.
I think the last time a Giantwas booked, good kind of Put an
asterisk on it, but like hiswrestling abilities aside, great

(01:14:23):
Khali is how you book a Giant,all right, solely on the way he
was booked booked not talkingabout how horrible of a wrestler
he was and how and how bad helooked when he was in the actual
ring, because homie wasstraight legged as fuck, but

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solely on the optics and thevisuals and whatnot.
That's how you book a giant.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Listen here.
Are you seven foot plus?
Do you enjoy wrestling and youfeel like you have the smallest
amount of wrestling prowess orcapability in the ring?
Go to Japan.
They will book you.
They will treat you like damnnear a god because there are so

(01:15:13):
many.
Are you a big man?
In general, maybe 6'7, 6'8.
You're still good over maybe atleast 300 pounds and you're a
little jacked.
Go to Japan, otis, otis, I'mtalking to you.
He's like, uh, what is he?
5'7, um, I'm still talking toyou.
Well, no, he's like, uh, whatis he?
5'7.
I'm still talking to you.
Japan would probably appreciateyou more, sir, he is a big

(01:15:36):
butterball of a man boy.
Get him in Noah or somethinglike that.
He actually was wrestling boy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
I don't think he'll have the triple B, but still
listen, otis, he has, like hecan do things that big men
shouldn't do, and that's why,like he defies the laws of
gravity with his massive size.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
And that's why I'm like bro, get him there.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Like he's like Brunson Like.
Remember when him and BrunsonReed was doing some, they had a
couple of matches against eachother, Some very biggie matches,
Big men slapping meat matches.
Remember Bull Dempsey?
Jesus, they don't you know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Bull, bull, bull man.
What is he doing?
Now?
That's a good question.
I'm going to have to find out.
Anyway, let's go ahead and getto this next one, and I'm going
to leave this to the audience aswell in the comment section.
Please let us know what youguys think are your book bump
berries.
So now we're going into.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Yes, Give us your BBC's man two.
Yes, give us your BBCs man.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
We're going into your new generation, going into the
Attitude Era.
If they were going into theAttitude Era for the new
generation, who would stick?
So first three this one mightbe a really, really easy target
to go over Dwayne the Clown, buthis heel version, okay, lex

(01:17:11):
Luger and Diesel before heturned into Kevin Nash.
It's like in that era he's juststarting to become Kevin Nash.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Yeah, he's still but not in I'm, I want.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
A part of me wants to be chaotic and say doink, you
wanna push doink if they healcharacter.
You wanna part of me book doink?
Can you imagine cause wealready had a do love situation.
Can you imagine like if VinceMcMahon, like set up a party or

(01:17:53):
something like that, he prankedStone Cold right, and at this
party there's this clown thatcomes up to him and says, well,
hi, whatever.
And Stone Cold says, if youdon't get your right ass out of
my face, and then Doink sprayshim with something and just
kicks his fucking ass and thengetsink sprays him with
something, just kicks hisfucking ass and then gets really
dark and now you have basicallyDark Doink the Clown against

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Stone Cold, or or or or.
Hypothetically you could puthim against Mankind.
I say Mankind has a fear ofclowns, but it's an actual evil
clown.
And now mankind is taking backtrips to when he first got into

(01:18:42):
wrestling.
He was doing the whole shakesand stuff like that.
Now it's because it's achildhood memory of him being
with clowns and now that's thefeud.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
There's a part of me that feels as if this was
probably actually brought up,because that sounds like some of
the most wildish, wildish VinceMcMahon booking.
It's the Attitude Era.
Come on, you see, man Kyle, wewere just like Uncle Paul.
You gotta protect me from theseclowns.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
And it's just joint.
Oh, I used to love that Eviltheme song.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
The boy used to that shit, but it's funny because
it's like boy I used to up thatshit, but see, because it's
funny, because it's like I'mahave to.
So, number one, I want to pushum because, wait a second, you

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said doink the clown, lex luger,lex luger, and in diesel and
diesel um, it's not narcissist,by the way yeah, I know this is
like good legs, like american.
Through these eyes, you can dono wrong.
He was a hero.

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I, um, I, I would.
I would do what those cowardsdidn't do and is.
I would push Lex.
I would push him in theattitude era.
I would, I would've.
Now I feel as if, like Iwould've pushed him but he

(01:20:41):
probably would've had to be alittle bit different.
But, um, cause, because helooked, he looked like he should
be pushed they just Because,with all that you gave me, I
really don't want to push Diesel.
I'll be honest with you, Iwouldn't push Diesel.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
Diesel and Stone Cold makes a lot more sense than.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Doink and Lex Luger, I will say definitely for the
Doink and Lex Luger, I will saydefinitely for the Doink.
It's funny, because buryingDoink is me saying I'm going to
bury Doink is like saying, oh,so you just do what actually
happened.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Because by the time, all that Doink was nothing, they
did bury him.
I can't push Doink, I can't, Ican't, you can't bump him.
I am not booking Doink, youcan't bump him, bumping him.
Bumping him is To bump Doink,is just burying him anyway.

(01:21:50):
How?
How?
Doink was a mid card at best,and when you look at the
hierarchy, if I bumped him down,that bumps him down to a jobber
anyway.
And so instead of just sayingI'm going to bump Doink down,

(01:22:12):
I'm going to just say I'm justgoing to let him stay a jobber,
right, or I'm going to bring himback to being a jobber.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
I think him going against people like Val Venus,
godfather, you know, be a funnysay, like with Val Venis.
He makes a, a balloon animal,but like the balloon animal is
sexually implied, his pinga, hepops it and Val's like.

(01:22:43):
You know what I'm saying?
It's like it's just a lot offunny shit you could do in the
mid card.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Come on you saying that shit you could do in the
midcard.
Come on.
You saying that is theequivalent of saying Are you
trying to say that during thenew generation era that Doink
was a main event player?

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
No, I didn't say that .
When I say Bump, Bump is onlymidcard.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Okay, alright.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
Book is main event.
Bump is mid-card.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
Okay, I was misunderstanding that piece
because I'm thinking to booksomeone means that you're
pushing them.
Yeah, bumping, I was thinking,was whatever they were, you're
bumping them back down.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Nah, bumping them to the mid-card Because considering
who we were talking aboutbefore.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
My answers don't change, because a lot of those
people that were spoken in theGolden Age era people, a lot of
those people that they weretalking about, they were main
event players anyway.
So it was either push themfurther or actually bump them to
the mid card, because most ofthem yeah, because most of them

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were not mid cards.
They were all main eventers forthe most part, uh, aside from
certain ones during the end, butthen they still bumped into
that same area, and so in thisparticular case, my answer
doesn't change and I'm jobbinghim out Like I'm just you just
don't like Doink.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
You don't like Doink, they're just keeping him back.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
No, I like Doink.
If I was going to mid-card himin the Attitude era, I would
have made him the leader of theinsane clown posse, which
honestly I think would have donesome good for him.
You know what I'm saying shakemy hand however, when it comes

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to that, I, uh, I would rathermid-car diesel.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
I mean, yeah, I can agree with it, but alright.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
So especially since we pushed diesel in the new
generation era and we saw wherethat went.
I'm not going to make the samemistake.
They should have pushed Lex asopposed of diesel generation era
, and we saw where that went.
I'm not going to make the samemistake.
They should have pushed Lex asopposed of Diesel.
So now I'm going to right thewrong, or at least try to.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
Razor and Moon, mabel and Tatanka.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
Yeah, I know, that was like an easy one I mean, the
better question is why wouldyou push mabel?
Why?
Why would you book mabel?
Wwe did it.
Why why would you?
Now, he wasn't Mabel when theypushed him, though he was Big

(01:25:57):
Daddy V in the world's largestno no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
When they had that SummerSlam match, they were
pushing him as a main eventsituation to go against Diesel,
and that's why they had thatreally terrible match.
He was pushed into a main eventstatus at one point, so in
Vince's eyes he was main eventmaterial, because he would have
never got a title shot.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
So wait, he actually had a title shot.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
Yes, there was.
One of the worst matches inWWE's history is Diesel versus
Mabel.
I think it was a King of theRing or fucking SummerSlam.
It's a very slow match, veryslow match.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
I was not aware.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
I have to look at that it's basically remember how
we were just saying andre thegiant versus big show would be a
bad idea.
Imagine that.
But now you also gotta imagineand remember the fact that mabel
is about 400 plus pounds.
What is diesel's fuckingfinisher?
A jackknife powerbomb.
How the fuck are you gonna havehim do this move to this big

(01:26:58):
motherfucker?
Because I know, yes, obviouslythis is an assist, but, like
diesel has been known toaccidentally drop dudes on their
heads multiple times doing thatmove if the person was too big.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
There's no assist with Mabel.
There's no assist with Mabel.
Mabel couldn't assist if hewanted to.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Exactly so.
That's what I'm saying, bro.
So it's like you telling methat's the match and that's his
fucking finisher.
How the fuck is this supposedto go down?
And we got the dumpster fire ofthat match.
See now.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
I gotta see this match now because I was not
aware of this.
That's exactly why I mid-cardedDiesel.
Oh, here we go and, honestly,summerslam it was.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
SummerSlam.
It was SummerSlam, I forgotwhat um it was.
Summerslam 89, uh 95.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
Summerslam 95 that was 4 years old, I think.
I'm gonna mid-card Mabel though?
Nah, because it's Mabel, razorRamon and who?
Tatanka oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

(01:28:27):
I am mid-carding Mabel, I'mjust, of course I'm going, of
course I'm going to push RazorRamon and we're just going to
continue to bury Tatanka.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
Whoa, tatanka had an undefeated streak, all right.
Oh, that's crazy.
I'm putting him in the mid-card.
It would have been Razor Ramon,book, tat him in the midcard.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
It would have been raise Ramon, book Tatanka in the
midcard and bury Mabel damn,you're gonna bury the big man as
a big man yourself at this timeyeah, cause at this time he was
ass let's just be honest.
I mean, you say that like hewas anything but okay, but look

(01:29:15):
visceral as a character was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
He wasn't that great.
Big daddy v that's.
When they struck gold, it waslike you're striking, you're
striking.
Okay, this is a dud, this is adud, hold up, wait.
Okay, that's a little something.
Okay, hold up.
And now you're striking goldwith Big Daddy V.
That's the most convincingcharacter because the world's
love, the world's largest lovemachine, viscera.

(01:29:40):
You remember that shit?

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
do you say that like I forget?
Him, him, him violating MattHardy at the fucking Royal
Rumble fantastic listenentertainment bro that there is
Matt Hardy at the fucking RoyalRumble.
Fantastic Listen Entertainmentbro.
There is, and he wasn't at thattime.
He wasn't necessarily badwrestling.
No, like I said, I don't thinkhe's ever really been a bad

(01:30:07):
wrestler.
No, you know, he just has thedifficulties of just being an
extremely large individualalthough although, of course,
from what I hear from otherpeople he was Undertaker talks
about how he did not enjoyhaving matches with him.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
Kevin Nash.
I looked it up as wellafterwards.
He's like the night that Mabelalmost broke me in half.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
I mean, and that was that match.
Mabel is the reason whyUndertaker had to wear that mask
.
He broke his orbital bone.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
I mean so did Rey Mysterio, but that was light in
a feather.
I mean, that's true, that wasin a feather.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
I mean that's true, that was a freak accident,
although I mean they're probablyboth freak accidents.
But yeah, no, like yeah, we'reburying that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
I'm sorry, we're burying.
That's what I'm saying.
Mabel, wait, tatanka or Mabel,I am burying Tatanka.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
I don't care about Tatanka, mabel, I am burying
Tatanka.
I don't care about Tatanka.
Go fuck yourself.
Wow that shit's crazy, my guy.
Yeah, yeah, that doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
That does nothing for me, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
That motherfucking guy does nothing, that shit was
fire, bro, I didn't care aboutit then I don't care about it
now.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
That shit was fire bro, I don't give a fuck Anyway.
Nah, next set it's going to befour.
Oh sorry, that last one reallyfucked me up for a second.
I was like, alright, so Bam Bam, bigelow, 123kid, adam Bomb,

(01:32:01):
bob Backlund, that's what it wasfucking with me for a second
alright.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
So, um, I am going to book the hell out of Bam Bam
Bigelow.
God damn right, we're justgoing to cut Bob Backlund, yep,
and then for the bump, becauseit's one, two, three, three kid.

(01:32:35):
And who's the other one?

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
atom bomb atom bomb.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
Yeah, we're going to continue to bury atom bomb and,
uh, and we'll, we'll bump one,two, three kid.
Shake my hand, because for abrief moment I was all like
we're just going to bury one,two, three kid, but I'm not
going to.
I'm like no, no, no, no,because I've actually gone back.

(01:33:01):
Well, yes, and he was actuallyreally good.
Well, I think X-Pac has beenvery underrated to me because,
like I only knew him as X-Pachas been very underrated to me
because, like, I only knew himas X-Pac.
And then that moving forward,but like when he was 1-2-3 Kid,
because I've gone back andwatched some 1-2-3 Kid matches

(01:33:24):
and I'm like, nah, he was doingthe thing back then like to the
extent where I would push 1-2-3Kid in AEW right now that's the

(01:33:44):
kind of that was good wrestlingbecause you were saying it was
good wrestling, I'd even push.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
Bam Bam Bigelow in AEW too.
I feel like him versus, eventhough we just talked about two
big men going against each other, him and Brody King.
I'd watch it.
I'd watch the hell out of thatshit.
I'd watch the hell out of thatshit, oh God brother.

(01:34:10):
That's a bar fight at thatpoint.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
Yes, like Bam Bam Bigelow and AEW honestly would
have been amazing.
But I think Bam Bam BigelowHold on, I mean, let me make
sure.
No, no, I think, comparablyspeaking, I think he he would go
a lot farther in aew, because Iwas gonna say bam bam bigelow

(01:34:36):
would have been great in like2010, 2007, uh 28, uh 20, uh,
pretty much 08 to 2010, uh, tna.

(01:34:56):
Basically I was little TNA, Iwas literally, you get it.
I was about to say that we'rehere.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
We're right there, bro, because I thought you were
about to say WWE and I was likeno, but then you said TNA and I
was like I just had to get myyears right.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
But like Bam Bam Bigelow, if we take Attitude,
era Bam Bam Bigelow or this isNew Generation, so if we take
New Generation Era Bam BamBigelow and put him in that era
of TNA world champion.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
Can we just keep it a buck 50 anywhere?
Bam bam, bigelow would havewent, he would have been world
champion, brother that caliberwrestler bam bam bigelow was, uh
was.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
He was extremely ahead of his time.
He was born too late or tooearly.
Cause like have you watched thedark side of the ring about Bam
?

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
Bam Hill bro constantly watching that shit
fam if Bam Bam would have.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
If Bam Bam would have came up the exact same ways but
instead of being in the 80, ofit being in the eighties, it was
in the nineties, God he wouldhave been.
He would have been fuckingunstoppable he.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
it don't matter what era bro.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
Freaking main event player period Like but he, but
they dropped the ball on him.
And then you drop the ball onhim completely dropped the ball
and you get to see his amazingwork in ECW with Taz like Bam
Bam Bigelow is freaking, aseveryone always say, bam Bam

(01:36:45):
Bigelow is, if you're a big manthat wants to be a wrestler, he
is the model that you want towatch and look and go after the
tsunami is mainly based off ofhim.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
Now, like bronson reed does the tsunami.
Just like how bam bam goes offthe top rope like he literally
was watching film.
He's like he was trying to findways to better do it instead of
just jumping off raw because hewas like I don't like how that
area is.
But he just noticed how bam bamwould always just come off the
foot and just go down.
He was like, okay, and if youwatch bronson do it now, it's so

(01:37:19):
smooth of a transition it'salmost like dropping a wrecking
ball.
He's not jumping, he gets onthe top rope and he just falls
and that momentum alone shouldbe devastating fam.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
I I think like before we was doing podcasts I was I
went on like a tirade about howmuch I freaking love brunson
reed and I was talking aboutlike how, but like the way that
he, the way that he does thetsunami, compared to like when
you just see people do splashesand stuff like that, because,
like you know, you see uso, yousee Uso get all that air and

(01:37:54):
stuff like that.
It's like when he gets up to dothe tsunami, it's like he does
not wait on the rope, he doesn'teven completely the fact of him
, he doesn't even finishclimbing, he just like, alright,
it's just so, it's and it'sjust so good, it is so good.

(01:38:17):
Brunson Reed, like freaking,we're not even to that era.
But regardless of when he comesup, push him, just push him.

Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
What I would probably do is the reverse of, like,
what wrestlers would you see inother promotions?
Like, think about, uh, let'ssay, ruthless aggression.
Some of those, some of thosepeople who would be in tna.
How would they have fared intna?
Or maybe how would they havefared in uh, ecw, maybe even aew
.
So I feel like there's so manyways you can do this, and we

(01:38:50):
could be on this series for awhile, but I think that is the
final one for us here for thisepisode though.
So final thoughts, guys, as youhave seen us, do the book bump
bury, do you guys prefer itbeing the BBB or do you prefer

(01:39:12):
the book bump cut, which woulddrastically, devastatingly, lead
to the BBC?

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
So it's funny because when it comes to like booking
to the book bump and cut, Ialmost feel like book bump and
cut is a bit more respectable asopposed to just jobbing
somebody out it is it is.

Speaker 1 (01:39:38):
It's just the acronym , bro, it's just the acronym.
That acronym is pretty savage,I ain't gonna lie.
Here's the thing, audience.
When I was reading it out, Iwas just like thinking I
literally said the B and I justpaused.
I was like no, I instantly Nah,nah, because I was thinking of

(01:40:03):
some other acronyms.
I think one was TTC, anotherone was, I think it was like MDP
or something like that.
Just a lot of other ones, andit was just like all of a sudden
like okay, then the beep?
No, no, we're gonna, we.
I like this bb part, the book,the book bump, but barry, maybe

(01:40:24):
barry, that's a baby bear.
But anyway, thank you guys.
So much, uh swag.
Any final thoughts for youbefore we close out this episode
.

Speaker 2 (01:40:37):
I think the only thing that I will say is for one
Samoans are, they're with us.
Fam, don't do this community,Black community, that particular
subsect of Black community,like don't push people away that

(01:41:02):
have been wanting to help us asa whole this whole time.
Alright, Like, don't do that.
Like, sure, I can understand ifyou may feel a certain type of
way about the fact that Samoansare getting all the attention,
but y'all must not watch NXTbecause, boy oh boy, the niggas

(01:41:22):
are taking over that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
Bro, you mean what was it?
At one point it was African NXT.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
Listen the Wakanda, wakanda NXT that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
Listen the Wakanda NXT.
That's what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
If you feel as if niggas aren't getting their play
, go to NXT.
Look at the black title.
That is the North Americantitle.
The North American title hasthe most black holders ever.

Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
I still got a hate on my homeboy.
You know I've been wearing theB's forever.
He started wearing the B's, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
He started coming out to the ring and I was like bro,
bro bro, bro, bro, bro, bro,bro, bro bro, you're over here
like bro you're taking mygimmick.
It's from his culture, but ofcourse he's like bro you're
taking my gimmick.
You gonna tell him that yougonna, you gonna step up to
Obafin and be like, hey, yo bro,you gonna tell Fatu that he

(01:42:26):
can't say the.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
N-word Maybe.
Maybe if I caught him off guardand he was sitting in a chair
and I could just tsunami his ass.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
What?
Oh, so you go hit him with thatJasper Troy, then huh you go.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
Hey yo man, you can't wear these beads, no more.
Who the fuck are you Tsunami?

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
Well, that's some real Negro shit right there,
buddy Boy.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Oh man, all right guys.
Well, yeah, oh man.
All right guys, but that'sreally all I got to say.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
That's all I got to say you know.

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
Thank you for tuning in to another episode.
If you haven't yet, pleasechokeslam that like button and
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So this is another episode ofthe Big Brothers of Destruction
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It's the Masako.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
It's your boy.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
Swag Switch in the building and until next time, we
will see you very soon.
Good night, or ta-ta, for now.

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