Mid Range

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
welcome again to another episode of the big
brothers of destruction podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
It's the masako and it's your boy swag switcher in
the building.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Of course, once again your friendly neighborhood, mvp
you know, speaking speaking ofMVP, you know the stuff with the
Hurt Syndicates going on.
They finally accepted MJF.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Listen, I love it.
The whole thing has beenhilariously funny.
Like it's one of the few thingsthat's going right with AEW.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
That whole storyline with them.
It was what you, the few thingsthat's going right with AEW.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
That whole storyline with them is what you say, oh,
100%, like it's the most.
It's one of the few things thatare just interesting.
That's going on with AEW rightnow Like freaking since you
brought him up and whatnot, justgoing into the whole, you know,
this week in wrestling, because, boy, I've been diving into the
whole this week in wrestling,because, boy, I've been diving

(01:07):
into some wrestling this week.
Put me on when I did not watcha whole lot of wrestling last
week.
I was on my A game this weekbut I feel as if it was almost a
waste of time to be on my Agame because, I'll be honest,
this week was boring.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Okay, I think I'm glad I'm not the only one that
thought that, all right, damn.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Like before we get to AEW cause, just just to show
like.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I'm about to say hold on.
Abw has some, some interestingstuff happened this week, so yes
, yes, they fucking did.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Oh, are you gonna give them their kudos again, fam
?
So listen, I watched raw.
So I watched raw when ithappened and then, like two days
later, I was like I forgot towrite notes about.
So I was like, what happened?
I'm wrong.
I don't fucking remember whathappened on Raw.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I ain't gonna lie bro .
Raw was kind of weak sauce.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
And so I went back to see what happened on Raw and
the only things that was kind ofimportant, so the things that
sparked my interest on Raw.
Number one I hate what they'redoing with gunther right now.
Like that that has yet tochange.
And I say that because patmcafee comes back and all this

(02:34):
other stuff, and you know it's,it's weird because we go from
michael cole getting threatenedand pat Pat McAfee get choked
out and and you know Gunthertalk about how you know how he's
going to be his face into theground and dog walk them and all

(02:55):
this other stuff, and just forhim to go to the pay per view
and be all like you did good andjust leave and then do nothing
after that.
And then Pat McAfee comes backand it's like, oh, there's
nothing but respect for eachother right now.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, it was like what was the point of the feud?
Why, why?

Speaker 2 (03:13):
We could have had Pat McAfee.
Could have fought anybodyLiterally, but we went with
Gunther.
We went with Gunther.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Well, because Gunther didn't have anything else.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
But then it's like we go with Gunther and then we
literally do nothing with it,absolutely nothing with it, like
it, just like.
Okay, and that happened.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Great match, Like that's literally a great match.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, like, because let me not sound crazy on it
Like Pat McAfee rested his assoff, you know what I'm saying.
It did great things for PatMcAfee.
But what is Pat McAfee going todo after he's done it?
He's going to sit down atcommentary and and commentate,

(04:04):
not go for the heavyweight titleit's not even.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
It's not even that.
It's the.
It's the fact that you werekind of normalizing pat mcafee
as a wrestler who has theability to go the distance with
somebody like gunther.
That's the part that reallypisses me off yeah, that 100 100
that's because, like, guntherhas went from.

(04:29):
This is why I always say voltais the real, that is the real
version of him.
That remember how well I don'tknow if you were in this
conversation where everybody wassaying, uh, kenny omega in new
japan, the big dog meme, and it,as he's in aew, it's Japan, the
big dog meme, and as he's inAEW, it's the cute little dog
meme that is Gunther right now.

(04:51):
Walter big dog and Guntherlittle puppy.
There's no way Walter wouldhave murdered somebody bro
Listen.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
And then, because we're talking about it
continuing on with gunther, andhe comes out there and he
decides to try and talk tough touh, to um.
Uh got our heavyweight championyeet, like he goes out there.
He's all like AJ.
I'm sure you heard that.

(05:26):
Whatever happens at SaturdayNight Main Event the next
pay-per-view I'm fighting.
Whoever walks out of there withthat title, or, as he said, one
of y'all are going to have theutmost joy and congrats, to give
me my belt back and whatnot.
He's trying to talk all slickas well as things like like, for

(05:50):
the first time, I feel like nojay's justified to talk and
sound how he does because, as hesaid, oh, you talked about that
time, because he was, becausehe said the fact, like you know,
it's been the last time.
This is the first time you andme been in the ring with each
other since uh, wrestlemania andhe's all like, oh, you talk

(06:14):
about the last time being, youknow, when I tapped you out,
choked you out.
Yes, and I'm all like, yeah, jay, talk your shit, because right
now Gunther has nothing.
What has he done since then?
I mean, granted, jay, youhaven't done anything better.
Like it's like you, where Jayalmost lost to Seth Rollins,

(06:44):
gunther beat up an announcer ata desk and struggled with it, by
the way, like he had to try tobeat Pat McAfee.
So it's like these twodownstairs.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, he had to try that.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
He had to.
You know, it's like this wasGunther and then this was Gun.
That, yeah, he had to.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
You know it was like this was Gunther, and then this
was Gunther.
Oh my god, nah, that'sliterally in a nutshell what
that was.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
And then it was like for Jey Uso to be talking this
big talk, and literally sincefighting Gunther in.
Literally since fightingGunther.
Well, since fighting Gunther,the only other thing he did was
he fought Seth Rollins, whereSeth Rollins was about to beat
him until, like, the universeimploded and everyone interfered

(07:40):
in his match, being CM Punk and, god damn, sami Zayn, kind of
thing.
And then, after all of that bigtalk, talk to gunther.
You know, oh, you know I ain'tgonna.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
I ain't gonna.
I do like that.
She's like that shit the way heends his phone.
I I love that shit.
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Two letters, one word .
Oh, my lord.
Yeah, that shit go hard bro,that shit go hard every time,
which I agree, and when he wastalking about that big show, I'm
like, yeah, jay, you talk yourshit, because you did choke that
motherfucker out and all he gotto show for it was that he beat

(08:25):
up an announcer and struggledto beat him, while the other
announcer interfered in hismatch.
Okay, so, that's all he got tohis name, Just for Jay to get
attacked by a goddamnbrawnbreaker and be left lying
with the pipes hitting theground and shit.
I'm like ah.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Four letters, one word oh.
Yeah, four letters one word I'msorry I had to come up with
that or something like that man,that shit go hard dog.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Listen.
Four letters, one word, oh, andthe sound of pipes banging and
hitting the ground.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Or something of that nature of like just dropping the
mic no, no, no, no, no.
Literally the pipes was lefthitting the ground because braun
breaker beat the brakes offbackstage I'm thinking of when
he was on the mic again in frontof him, when gun throws we were
talking about literally likepromptly after he got done
talking to, Gunther Brombrakercame out there and beat his ass.

(09:29):
Nah, I know what you're talkingabout.
Okay, it took me a second toslightly remember the crazy.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
So yeah, that was that.
So yeah, hate where Gunther is.
The other thing though, theother thing, that two things
that did crack me up about raw.
First, right is uh penta versusum chad gable.
Oh yeah, I, the banter betweenuh pat mcafee and and Michael

(10:02):
Cole was absolutely hilarious.
Because Michael Cole the wholetime is talking about Chad Gable
, like Chad, because he thinkshe knows that Chad Gable is the
big American, alright, and sothe whole time he's all like
he's talking trash and shit.

(10:23):
He's like you know, chad Gableprobably should put the mask
back on because it seems to bewinning more time.
He's all like it's.
Uh, he's, he was like he'stalking trash and shit.
He's like you know, uh, chadgable probably should put the
mask back on because it seems tobe winning more mat, more
matches wearing the mask, asopposed to just being out there
as himself.
And then every every timemichael cole says something
about those two being the samepat back fee he just continues
like well, unfortunately, thatreally can't be a thing, because

(10:45):
they're literally two differentpeople, they're not the same
person.
And then Michael Cole sayssomething else and he's all like
once again, michael Cole, notthe same person.
El Grande Americano is not ChadGable.
Match goes on, makes anothercomparison.
He's like no, I see what youmean about that, because Chad
Gable has been losing a lot ofmatches, but that's not El

(11:07):
Grande Americano.
That's two different people.
Two different people Literally,to the point where he's all.
Literally to the point wherePat Baxter's like Michael Cole.
They're not the same person.
I don't know what you'retalking about.
I don't know how many times Ihave to tell you.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Like bro, are you losing it?

Speaker 2 (11:27):
it's like El Grande Americano is the one person over
here, chad Gable is over here.
They're not the same people.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
I don't know why you keep doing this like it's it is
definitely funny how he kept theflow going like K kayfabe,
kayfabe, bro, kayfabe, or likeanother thing that we all, we
all, constantly do.
That too, in general, is youknow, we, we.

(11:56):
It's just like how, the minutewe knew, oh yeah, that's totally
chad gable.
But there's like that's chadgable.
No, it's not like we as's ChadGable.
No, it's not.
We, as wrestling fans, love tolive in the moment and live into
the gimmick and let the gimmickslide, just for the fun of it.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Listen.
I'm surprised and thoroughlyentertained at the fact that
they did not stop it.
I thought this was going to bea quick one-and-done thing.
No, they're dragging this out.
I've watched some otherpodcasts this week as somebody

(12:36):
and I'm like, oh my god, thiswould be so good.
Someone said that El GrandeAmericano should adopt American
made and turn them into Mexicanmade.
I was like yo, bro.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Mexican made.
That would be wild.
I'm not gonna lie.
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
I'm not gonna lie, but like it's literally just ivy
, nile and the creed brotherswith freaking luchador masks.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
I don't that one.
That one's pretty wild, I'm notgoing to lie.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
It's so good, Listen that absolute.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
That would be hilarious.
I would be here for that.
I would be here for that Peakcinema.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
American Alpha and Ivy now becomes part of the
becomes luchadors.
And now they are Mexican, madeCrazy.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Hey, you know, know, honestly, with uh homegirl she
would basically be theequivalent of sexy star and uh
lucha underground.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Because she was, she was definitely an athlete of
that sort, you know the onlyproblem is is like with what
they're doing is cool, but forthem to take the whole team and
turning them into Mexican-made,and especially considering the
fact that ne'er one of them hasa lick of Mexicano in it.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Hey, hey, hey.
You never know.
You know how the motherfuckersbe doing their ancestries.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Listen, I'm the only person who might have somewhere
close to maybe some kind ofEspanola within the confines of
their blood system might be IvyNile, and that only would be
because she probably got someItalian in there and Italy is

(14:40):
very close to Spain.
That's probably the closest toLatino that any of them has
swimming around in them.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
The Espanol is still what gets me right now.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
The Hispaniola.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Insane.
She might have the EspanolaEspanola, espanola, that's what
we're calling it.
Now, all right, bro, we we justbugging the fuck out that's.
I'm really hung up on that, I'msorry.
Espanola, uh, you know what?

(15:20):
That's almost the equivalent ofme somebody saying, um holly,
oh yeah, I think I passed it toyou.
I sent it to you on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
It was shorty said jalapeno.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
The jalapeno joint.
Oh man, I was so heated aboutthat.
She didn't say jalapeno.
What did she say?
Hold up.
She said uh, yeah, jalapeno.
Oh my God, I was ready to gothe fuck off.
Because I was ready to go thefuck off, because I was like no,
no, she didn't just say that,no, she didn't say that.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
I, whatever I'm around like Spanish friends just
to mess with them, I do that.
I'll just be like hey, can youpass the jalapeno chips?
And like it's almost as iftheir body seizes up.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
And they're like yes, because it's almost as if their
body seizes up and they're likeyes, because it's one of those
like what the hell did you justsay it's, it's, it's almost like
I can't think of any is anequivalent of what we I can't
even think of the equivalent.
What that would be like for us.
But uh, not to get too far offinto that topic, but uh, so this

(16:27):
week of wrestling raw was notthat interesting.
Jeff cobb's debut was a jeffcobb match.
I don't know, I don't know whatto tell you, but it was.
It was a jeff cobb match.
Wasn't bad, wasn't?

Speaker 2 (16:38):
oh, listen, now I feel it's funny because you're
saying that, right, right,because I've seen him before and
I'm watching this and I'm like,okay, so he's taking this very,
very, very slow and methodicalapproach is what he's doing?
Alright, I can deal with that.

(16:58):
I can mess with that, that'sfine, it's okay.
However, like I'm glad that thematch went as it did because,
like it still made LA Knight notlook like a fucking bitch, I
mean because he didn't win,because he lost dirty.

(17:20):
So because Solo and all of themand now I will say,
comparatively speaking,smackdown was definitely better
than raw hands down, becauseeverything that I said about oh,
you know what, you know whatlisten I was about to agree
about ross.
Up until this point, that wasthe only thing that was

(17:41):
important about raw to me.
That was, those were the onlythings that I thought was like,
oh that's funny, oh that's cool.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
No, the reason why I was going to agree is because
SmackDown's main event, which isTiffany versus Nia Jax, that
was a pay-per-view match onSmackDown.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Listen that should.
I hate to sound like thatbitter ass nigger.
That's still sour aboutWrestlemania, but that would
have been so much better of a.
Wrestlemania match.
If we would have had thatinstead you know why?

Speaker 1 (18:17):
cause your fucking queen was not, it was not up to
the speed for that match.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, you heard me.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
See now you out here making up stories and shit.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
But you just literally said that match would
have been better.
The match already included yourqueen.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yes, it did.
But who says it was her?

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Oh get the fuck out of here, tiffany.
Tiffany is doing her damn jobright now.
She is killing it.
Do not dare, do not dare.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Listen, honestly, I have to give that match to naya.
Like naya, like her, she hasgotten so good.
She has gotten so good she'sgotten better.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yes, wow, yeah, she's got better.
She's gotten better.
Yeah, like because, compared toback in the day, she used to
injure a lot of people.
She used to like kind of I wantto say, be sluggish in the ring
.
You know how like vince back inthe day was like you're a big,
you're a big person, throw yourbody weight, throw the mass and

(19:37):
just kind of you're a wrestlerfor that.
But like naya has gotten betterin the ring.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
That's what I'm saying it's just the way that
you said it.
It was almost as if you weretrying to downplay the way that
I said it.
It was all like I said she'sgotten so good.
You're all like she's gottenbetter.
I'm like, fuck, you mean that?
Yeah, she's gotten better as awrestler, yeah, so you're not

(20:03):
saying she's good.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Is that what you're trying to say?
I'm just saying she's gottenbetter.
When you say good, it could be.
I guess our wording is the same, it's just I said the word
better.
When you say good, I was like,yeah, she's gotten better.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
See what it is is the way that you said it.
It's not like you were tryingto undermine my girl, naya, over
here.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Because don't act like you don't do it.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Oh, nah, nah, nah, nah, look.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Naya, naya, naya.
There's a lot of people I don'tfollow on socials and you know
why I'm following Naya.
Yeah, you know why I'mfollowing Naya.
You know I'm following that,and that was a point too.
When I was following her I waslike why is she hanging out with
mojo riley like this bro?
And she hold up bro like no manlike yo.

(20:54):
Let me get some of that naya.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Now what do you got against mojo right?

Speaker 1 (21:01):
because he'd be hanging out with her a lot and
and I'm like bro, are theydating bro?
Amen.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, man, you over here on your freaking Nick, your
old school Nick Nemeth.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
It should have been me, yes, it should have been me.
It always should be me,literally.
So that's when, whenever I saw,I was like man, you know what?
Let me start looking at this,let me start looking at the
instagram, because, man, I'mabout to start hating but they

(21:32):
just, they're just good friends,they're just good friends.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
But anyway, yeah, go ahead most of the side, though,
like night that night and tiffymatch like that was oh, it was,
it was a great match.
Like, yes, it was solid fromstart to finish, and what I like
about it so much is just thefact because number one Nia was
looking goddamn amazing by allmeanings of the word.

(21:57):
I mean you're right, tiffy, thistime she also was looking
extremely great for that matchas well as things like they did
the thing where it's like theyyou know how like sometimes they

(22:21):
do that weird thing where it'sall like, okay, nia's a big girl
, you're not about to make methink that Tiffany's about to
just straight up overcome thisbig woman.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
That's what I'm talking about.
That's exactly what I'm talkingabout, because before, when she
started wrestling, it was likeshe was that, but now it's like
I love how she took Yokozuna'ssplash.
I love it.
You know what I'm?

Speaker 2 (22:48):
saying I love that.
So Nia Jax is my way because ofthe things that she does,
because she's taken pretty muchall of Yokozuna's main
signatures, which is that, andeven down to just the way that
she does the leg drop, it's pureYoko and that makes me feel all

(23:12):
nice inside because God resthis soul.
I was a Yokozuna stan back inthe day dog Just the way he
moved, the way he did things.
And then not Yokozuna, butmotherfucking.
Just the way he moved, the wayhe did things like, and then man
, and then not yoko zuna butmotherfucking rodney fam.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
he was a nigga dog like oh, you know, outside of
him being superhero in no, no,you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
That was like no, no, no.
I know who you're thinkingabout.
That was Jamal.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
I thought his name was no Jamal.
Jamal was Umaga.
I could have sworn.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
No, actually, I think you might be right.
So yeah, because it was rosieand jamal.
Rosie was the one who was thesuperhero in training yeah,
that's what I'm saying, yeahyeah, yeah, yeah, freaking.
I thought you was trying to saythat yoko zuno was the
superhero in training no, no, no, hell, no.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
That man was unfortunately no longer with us
at that time when that stuff wasgoing on.
To know also in their historythat Yokozuna and Vader also
went to a weight loss camp atthe same time and they were both
like nah, we're going to chilland eat fried chicken together,

(24:42):
which is the most wildest thingto hear.
Just fuck this shit.
We're gonna eat some friedchicken it failed.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Like I said, with all respect to Yokozuna, that is
the most fat kid shit I've everheard in my life.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
I felt like it was a lot more Vader, but two ages on.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Vader out here is like hey, I know this chicken
spot bro.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
We need to go.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
And then when you think about, when you think
about those words put into asentence right next to each
other Vader and Yokozuna wassneaking out of a weight loss
center to go get fried chickenSome baller shit.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
How I mean when I say baller, in a sense of, like
they just said yo, we gonnafucking do what we want to do.
Oh, you mean like, how did theydo it?
Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.
I thought you meant like that'sa bad thing, maz.
What are you talking about?
Like, yeah, it is, but like yougotta also wonder how to do
they bully somebody.
Be like yo, give me somefucking fried chicken.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
We gonna beat your ass correct in the sense of like
, yeah, that is definitely someball of shit.
Because Vader is a big man,rest his soul too, because he
also passed away.
Vader was a big big man.
Yokozuna was two Vaders.
Big man, how do you sneak outlike that?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
They did it.
That's the part that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
They did it listen in the dnd world.
Both of these motherfuckers hitnat 20s on their sneak and
somehow but wouldn't that sneakstill be low, like really really
low?
So if you were to think aboutwhat they are right, For all
intents and purposes, Vader is abarbarian.

(26:50):
He's a full barbarian.
Maybe he's a barbarian fighter.
Yokozuna is like.
He's like a barbarian monk.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
If that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
You know I'm starting to learn these things now
because of me playing boulder'sgate 2 and oh then the reason
why I would, the reason why Iput yokozuna as a barbarian monk
, is because, number one beingthe barbarian you know,
barbarians they can take hits,they're, they're kind of,
they're pretty much the tanksand whatnot, and and so then you

(27:29):
add the monk part of it and nowyou get there, that, that
agility aspect of them, becausemonks are fast, you know, they
got step of the wind so they can, like freaking, dance around
and move and all this otherstuff real easily and real
quickly.
They're soft on their feet andtheir toes, and Yokozuna, for

(27:52):
being a big dude, was very quickon his feet and could dance
around in the ring when he wasat his healthiest type situation
.
And so that's why I would sayhim as a barbarian monk versus
Vader's straight barbarian.

(28:13):
And I can tell you right now,depending on how you multiclass
your monk, maybe you'll havesome good sneak, maybe you'll
have some good sneak.
Because sneak is based off ofyour dexterity in the game.
And so in.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Monks, they're very dexterous.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
So, yokozuna, just by the way the game is made and
put together and with what Isaid so far, okay, big Van Vader
, it's time Vader, timeBarbarians.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Oh, wait, wait, wait, you got it.
You got to do it like this, yougot to do it like this.
You got to do it like this yougotta do it like this, you gotta
do it like this, because it'sstill technically a T.
This is still technically a T,it's just not the right T is

(29:21):
there a gang sign for T?

Speaker 2 (29:24):
I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
I like how you immediately went to gang side
could, went to side language andhe just went straight to gang I
mean, if I want to be nervous,like is there, like a jutsu for
tea, like I don't fucking know.
I don't know what that wouldlook like, but it's just funny.

(29:46):
You went immediately to that.
So finally, AEW we talked aboutWWE and Jeff Cobbs' entry and
all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
We also need to give the props to Alexa Bliss,
because number one she's, she'sback.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yes, she is back and she's going to the money in the
bank yeah, they're putting, Ithink they're putting the rocket
on her bro, which I think Ithink they've, I think they
realized with the uh, the whitesix, because she mainly was
supposed to be there for thatstoryline.
They said, hey look, we got youon the contract.
We were supposed to have you dothis thing.

(30:27):
Yeah, our bad.
Or like yeah, unfortunatelythese people can't, so let's
just do something for the sakeof you and put you back up there
for a little bit, you knowwe'll see.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
I am curious to see what they're going to do with
alexa right now, but uh, oh, andwe also have to bring up which
once again.
This is why SmackDown wasactually good, because they had
these different things.
Like John Cena is going to befighting R-Truth.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
That's an interesting match, bro, because it's like
that's going to be agoofball-ass match, bro,
literally goofball central.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Trying to understand R-Tr truth's point of view right
now is interesting, like ourtruth is sitting here, he's our
truth is like in this weirddenial where he's all like like
nah, I know john ceno, that guythat's not john ceno, but when I
?
But I'm not giving up on JohnCena and I'm like okay, because

(31:30):
at first I was sitting therewith Wade Burrow like R-Truth.
The fuck are you talking about,you goofy?
motherfucker yeah, but it's likeokay, I see what he's trying to
say.
He's trying to say the factthat, even though John Cena is
going through this, whatever itis, his hero always taught him

(31:52):
never give up, no matter what.
And I guess he's never going togive up and he's all about the
hustle, loyalty and respect andhe's going to do all of that.
And he's like, if it means thatI have to go and beat up on on
john cena to help him remember,so be it, I'm gonna do that kind
of thing and I'm just like allright, our truth all right pop

(32:15):
off loyalty shit, loyalty shitlisten, I, that's.
That's one of those things whenI was like man I, but I hope we
can't even get mad.
My fans.
They try Our Truth.
One of them kind of like OurTruth.
One of them down from day onetype people where you know how
them girls be when they man goesto jail and they still ride.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
He only did one murder.
He only did one thing.
I'm riding with my man.
You know what I'm saying.
What's that video he's like?
Is that your man?
She's like that's mine, and youknow what he did.
That's mine.
Yes, that's mine.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Our truth.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Right now you go, ron , that's my champ, but I did
want to also bring up this lastthing about SmackDown.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Technical difficulties, but we're back, so
what's up?

Speaker 2 (33:10):
listen, that shocked me.
He froze, where'd he go?
But okay, so talk to me aboutPenta's brother right now,
phoenix.
Please, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (33:31):
oh, like him losing that match and everything not
just losing that match.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Did you see that match?
Homie was all over the placejust like what's, what are we?
What's happening right now?
He's, but just fucking justbotching the moves and just

(33:59):
something, and then he takes thepin yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, it was a one-on-one too, too, which is I
mean like Solo.
Solo needs to rack a dub, wasit a?

Speaker 2 (34:13):
solo.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Oh, it was a tag team , you're right, you're right,
you're right.
I thought it was one.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
It wasn't even that Damn.
That shows how much you caredabout.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
No, I remember I could have sworn it was a Okay,
go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, goahead.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
It Okay, go ahead, go ahead.
It was a qualified match.
It was Solo versus Jay.
Yeah, jay, damn, I did thething.
Jimmy and Jay, I don't know why?

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Big Jim, yeah, you're right.
Okay, yeah, he was in that,you're right, you're right,
you're right, you're right.
Yeah, big Jim is Solo andPhoenix that pin brother, I pin
brother, he got to eat one ortwo.
I mean Penta.
Penta has lost his undefeatedstreak freaking if I'm not

(35:01):
mistaken, phoenix has only wonlike one match no, he's won
pretty much every match he's hadsince he's gotten here, besides
except the because when hedebuted, and then the every
match he's had since he's gottenhere, Besides except the
Because when he debuted, hedebuted and then the next day he
won.
I could have sworn.
It was only at Mania he lostand then he took this pin.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Okay, you know what You're right?
You're right Because he wasfighting them, phantasmo boys.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, and he was doing the spectacles and shit
like that, yeah.
Okay, it's just like I think,just because of the sheer like
ass, that bad, you're just kindof, you're constantly just kind
of used to.
You know, uh, I want to sayused to.
But like you know how we asfans, we kind of get really used

(35:46):
to a person coming in.
They get like a win or two andthen all of a sudden it's like
well, they're not really goingto go that far with him.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Listen, that's what it feels like.
I feel like where Penta isflourishing, his brother is
stutter-stepping a bit here.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
His direction is not the same Like correct, it is
drastically different because,homie, he ate that pin like like
.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
I'm just like all right we did?

Speaker 1 (36:20):
I don't think pinto ate the pin for that triple
threat?

Speaker 2 (36:24):
no, he did not.
He did not eat the pin for thetriple threat.
And then it's like, at any timethat he has been pinned it was
through tomfoolery kind of thingyou right.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yeah, because of that match, something happened and I
think Homie stole the pin.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Correct, or he got a big American headbutt and stuff
like that.
So I just wanted to make sure Ispoke on that American head,
but it's stuff like that.
So, so that that that I justwanted to make sure I spoke on
that and just to get your feelson what they're doing with, uh,
phoenix right now a part of itcould be.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
I don't know, phoenix might've had a match where he
you know every wrestler has thatmoment where you kind of just
it just wasn't a good night.
Chemistry wasn't a good night,chemistry wasn't right, you know
, and that's even in the musicindustry, when we've had nights
where we do shows and you justsee the audience is just not
vibing with the music.
Nobody wants to, you know, giveyou any energy, they're just

(37:22):
there.
So it kind of feels likesomething like that.
But for, maybe, phoenix I don'tknow if something may have
happened during that day he gotin the ring and it just wasn't
his night.
It just wasn't his night.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
It was just now, Greg , it wasn't FTR bad Ooh, but
going into AEW though night daydifference between wwe and aew
stuff because, like aew wasexciting, it held my attention

(38:02):
like the hurt business thingthat we was talking about.
Now, to their credit, this iswhat they call it uh good
storytelling no, no, no, no, no,they're this, because this week
they was.
This was an event typesituation which was like beach
break.

(38:22):
I think they called it rightyeah, beach break, yeah, so it's
like they're.
so Beach Break is pretty muchlike they're having PLE level
matches on their shows, kind ofthing, because like listen the
Hangman and Osprey match withDon Cal's family.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Oh yeah, that was a really good fucking match.
The fucking combo of the hiddenblade and the buckshot was like
Listen, the hidden buckshot.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
The buckshot blade fan.
Like what that shit was cold.
Listen that hidden buckshot dog.
I actually like both names thebuckshot blade.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
When they said it I was like the Buckshot Blade, the
Hidden Buckshot, the Hidden theBuckshot Blade.
That was another one I rememberI came up with in my mind too,
and I was just like all of theseare really good ideas.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
So like I love that whole thing that they're going
with and I can't wait to seewhat their little, when they do
their little face-off thing.
I'm ready for that freakingzach gowen and ricochet yo bro.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
When he came out there, I flipped my shit.
I remember what happened, was Iforgot I was.
I think I had stopped watchingit for a second.
And then I came back and I waslike just scrolling, what did I
miss?
What did I miss, whatever?
And I saw I was like is thatfucking Zach With one?
Look, that's Zach.

(40:02):
This man is still going.
And I was bro.
He's doing springboards, he'sdoing he.
It's like his leg is stillthere and you don't even notice
it.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
He's just doing it.
It's interesting because, likethat was the best match I've
ever seen Zach Godwin have.
Oh my God.
Now I will admit, when he leftWWE I did not proceed to watch
what he did on the indies.
Apparently, he was actuallydoing some real shit when he

(40:34):
went to Ring of Honor type thing.
And so I was like so he wasafter WWE, he was still doing
big shit, because in WWE he washe always was just the underdog,
so he was the one who got beatthe living shit out of and then
a whole bunch of stuff wouldhappen and then he would come

(40:57):
out and pull out the w by theskin of his teeth.
But when he went up againstricochet, though, like I'm just
like, oh, who is this man?
This is this because, onceagain, when we was watching zach
gallen, he was literally achild yes, yes, yes, yes like

(41:19):
like 18 to like early 20 yearold one-legged moonsault boy
getting pushed down the stairsby Brock Neistat.
That's crazy.
And now we're looking atgrown-ass man with a family,
zach Gowen, and I'm like Goingthe fuck off.
Going off on Ricochet, likeLike that was a good match.

(41:43):
Now considering right, because,just to make a quick comparison
, mm-hmm Pat McAfee and GuntherRicochet and Zach Galwin.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
just the idea of these two really big heels
fighting someone who they'reundermining.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, undermining,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahkind of thing.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
but then all of a sudden they're like oh, I gotta
take this guy seriously andactually have to try and fight
kind of thing like, comparablyspeaking, ricochet and zach
galvin did it so much better.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
So much better Because this boosted Ricochet
Easy.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Okay, you feel like it boosted his stake as a heel,
or where do you feel like itboosted him at?

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Everything.
Let me put it this way Because,like I'm one of those guys who
you know because, me being a WWEstan, I really only watched
Ricochet when he was in WWE.
Now, I'm aware of what Ricochetslash Mr Puma is capable of

(43:06):
kind of thing.
But seeing him where he's atright now and to have the kind
of thing, but seeing him wherehe's at right now and to have
the kind of match that he hadwith, like, zach Gowen, and then
for him to just like I see himso boosted off of this match and
just pushing more on his heelpersona, like really putting in

(43:30):
there like man ricochet is anabsolute scumbag as where, with
this same type of deal withgunther, this is like man
gunther's turned into anabsolute pussy and it's crazy
right now, bro, like it is, itis blowing my brains out, cause

(43:54):
I'm just like bro, I'm losingbelief in Gunther.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
I love how you're like yo.
He is an absolute pussy.
You said that in your spirit.
Oh, my brother testify yougotta pussy.
You said that in your spirit.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Oh, my brother.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Testify.
You got completed.
You got completed.
Oh my brother.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Let me testify.
Let me talk to you.
That more so Now.
I am surprised at what they didwith Toni Storm, though with
her she took the pin?

Speaker 1 (44:35):
was this the one she took the pin in?

Speaker 2 (44:37):
she did and now at the next pay per view.
She's gotta fight this dancinggirl.
I forget her name yeah, I didtoo.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Not like saying she wasn't memorable.
It's just like in the momentit's a new wrestler to us and
everything.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Correct, and I remember her and Toni Storm had
a small little something like,but like because I don't watch.
What is it?
Stardom, ring of Honor.
Because I don't watch Ring ofHonor.
I did not get the full detailsof Honor.
I did not get the full detailsof it.
Now they did, on Collision,explain their little

(45:15):
relationship that they've had upuntil this point, which was
nice, but I was very surprisedabout her taking that pin and
whatnot and the main things whenit comes to collision, because
collision was just a bunch ofgood matches, like the learning
tree versus the um.
Oh, what are those boys?

(45:36):
Names them samoan boys, goddamn.
Oh, it's right there at the tipof my tongue.
Gates of agony there you go.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Oh, it was like yeah, it took me a minute, too.
Two, I was like wait, who the?

Speaker 2 (45:48):
fuck Listen.
Gates of Agony Streetfight.
That street fight was somethingserious.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
It was pretty good.
I really want Brian Keith tofinally get the chance to be the
bounty hunter, like he was inthe Indies, bro, he used to come
out to still tipping.
Look up some videos of Bryant.
He used to still tipping onboth that was his theme song and

(46:17):
he was the bounty hunter.
So it's just like it's hood, asfuck grills out.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
He comes out like he's basically a, a western
undertaker, but he comes out tostill tipping because before he
joined the learning tree hewould come out there with the
goddamn hat and shit and theponcho and I'm like, who is this
?
Nigga?

Speaker 1 (46:38):
he that motherfucking guy, though he's that guy like
he.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
He's cool, he's definitely cool he as far as the
match went, like him, him, himand um Big Bill, I want to call
him Big.
Cash but we don't call him that, no more.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Nah, the Redwood, the Redwood, yeah, the Redwood,
pause the way he looked like theRedwood.
Yeah, the Redwood, anyway, goahead that match, that match.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
It's one of those things where it's like that
match slapped more than itshould have.
Yes, it was better than itreally needed to be and I
appreciate it.
And then, of course, you know,my AEW, queen Megan Bain, showed

(47:30):
face and I love it, youimmediately calling her your
queen, bro, listen.
I said what I said.
Now, what is funny to me,though, I love this thing with
Anna Jay and Harley, Likebecause Harley has this thing

(47:51):
about Anna Jay's ass fam numberone only because they brought
attention to it yeah, you can'tmiss it, yeah, it's it's there.
However, on Collision they comeout and she does stay when she
turns around kind of thing, andshe's kind of like Is there?
However, on Collision they comeout and she does the thing

(48:13):
where she turns around, kind ofthing, and she's kind of like
looking back at it, and then,harley, she comes out there and
she's like you know, she's like,ah, she slaps it, and then
impulsive thoughts just takeover and she just is.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Who else did that in?
Did somebody do that in NXT?

Speaker 2 (48:34):
I don't, I can't recall, but when Harley, it's
like Harley literally justburied her face in the cheeks
and just, and she just kind oflike pushed her off like bitch,
what the hell is wrong with you,oh, and she just kind of like

(48:55):
pushed her off like bitch.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
what the hell is wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Like yo chill, like I know you're supposed to be in
character but like hold up Bruh,was she on live TV Stray
motorboat, her cheeks down Infront of God and everybody.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
In front of God and everyone else.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Oh, my word when I saw that I was in tears,
laughing fail hey, man, she knewwhat she wanted and probably
what, who you mean.
You tell me you wouldn't havedid it and the only other thing
I did want to bring up, onlybecause, like it, it's like not

(49:46):
to make it in, not to endtalking about a note but they
did actually come out and saythe fact that apparently, jr has
been diagnosed with coloncancer.
Yes, he's supposed to begetting some kind of surgery
going on this week.
And so it's like, oh, that'scrazy and that's a surprise.

(50:08):
And so it's like, oh, that'scrazy and that's a surprise.
Hopefully we're hoping JR cancome through and we'll be able
to hear some more good old JRjust a little bit longer,
because man, oh man, coloncancer is no joke.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
It is, and you know, jr is for a lot of us,
especially people who watch theAttitude Era.
He was the voice, he was one ofthe voices that made Raw in
every show what it was likethere was times where he he's
the voice of our childhood yeshim, and gotta give it to King
too, cause, like, while JR ispart, like King is literally one

(50:45):
cannot exist without the otheroh yes, it's the yin, and yang.
Yeah, it is the yin and yang.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
You can't have JR without Jerry Layton.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
But I'm still going to say this to this day Even
though JR is a great commentator, there is no better commentator
than Joey Styles.
But that is also because I aman ECW guy.
I also got to give it to mattstriker.
Matt striker watching him onlucha.
Uh bro, I met him at russellcon and this is when lucha was

(51:17):
popping.
I said yo, matt, I know youprobably don't care about me as
a fan or whatever, but I want tojust tell you right now I
really appreciate what you aredoing on Lucha as a commentator.
You make that show really goodand it just I can't remember the
exact words, but he was like yo, like for a moment he paused
and he says you know what,actually, thank you so much.

(51:40):
Like that really meantsomething to me, like I, it
didn't feel like it was, like hefabricated it, like oh yeah,
it's a fan telling me this.
Like blah, blah, blah, like letme get him to go on.
But he like paused, like likehe never heard it kind of thing
you know and you have to process.
Like damn, I didn't thinkpeople really liked me, like

(52:01):
that, yeah that.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
That that realization of resin, of recognition.
You know what I'm saying, likewhere it's like so people do
fuck with me.
Yeah, nice feeling yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Um, it was a good moment to have, and I I mean I
haven't had a chance to pop itto him since, but it was like I
saw him at russell khan yearsago and I just had to tell him
that.
Because, yeah, on lucha, youknow, with him and vampiro
vampiro is a good addition too.
You, you gotta watch lucha bro.
I can't, I can't stress thisenough.
You know, with him and VampiroVampiro is a good addition too.
You gotta watch Lucha bro.
I can't, I can't stress thisenough.
You know you've been divinginto some wrestling, but you

(52:34):
gotta watch this Lucha bro.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
I am I.
I am going to make the promisethat.
Uh, I will promise that whenJune hits.
I'm a binge.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Okay, I'm a bitch.
Okay, matter of fact, we caneven do a Patreon thing in the
future, where it's just uswatching.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Lucha, listen, I'm down for that too, either way.
I will bitch.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
I've seen small bits and pieces because it was
definitely something that Iaccidentally stepped in Like ew,
what is this?
Oh no, this is good.
That was what Lucha Undergroundwas for me and Antonio at the
time.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
You know what's funny when you say something like
that.
It was like earlier today,corey had spilled alcohol on the
floor, rubbing alcohol, and shedid it like you know how you
try to save something fromspilling, and I was like, no,
that's fine, floor's clean now.
Floor's clean.
Now floor's clean, floor'sclean.
We know that now.
Honestly, it's good it's notgonna stain anything?

Speaker 2 (53:41):
yeah, it's not before I end everything on this week
of wrestling because I finallygot a chance to squeeze in some
TNA I did watch NXT as well, butlike NXT I mean nothing too
crazy going on, because the realstuff for NXT is this coming

(54:02):
week, because they're going tobe in Tampa, and that's when
they're going to be doing alltheir big stuff.
So NXT was literally set up forall of that.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
But real quick, real quick, before you get into that,
I, I'm, I'm really stressedabout trying to make it to a
Tampa show because I don't knowif scene is going and I kind of
need that one last, being in thepresence of of of Sina in the
arena and hearing that, you know, because it's the last run,

(54:34):
it's the last run, but drivingtwo hours to watch that show,
it's like do I want?
To do it.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
I'm like I don't think Cena's gonna be there.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
I would hope, because it's like again, it's his last
run, he has to make it toFlorida at some point.
He fucking lives there.
I mean he lives here.
So like he literally is thislast run.
He has to make it to Florida atsome point.
He fucking lives there.
I mean he lives here, so likehe literally lives in Tampa that
is true, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
I mean, I do think that wrestling is coming to like
outside of them coming to Tampa.
Oh wait, duh freaking SaturdayNight Main Event, this one
coming up.
He's fighting our truth inorlando, in tampa so, uh, that's
what I'm talking about.

(55:18):
I'm talking about orlando wisenow I don't know what orlando.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Well, I don't know when they're coming back to
orlando yeah, I'm sure if theydo, he probably probably will,
and it's next Saturday, yes,next Saturday.
Oh no, I'm not going there.
I'm not going there.
My funds don't allow that.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
I feel that, but the last little thing I did want to
bring up.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
My bad Outside of the fact that on TNA, number one
TNA, I like TNA almost feelslike it's like the second brand
to NXT.
So it's like if NXT is raw, TNAis SmackDown right now.
And I'm kind of feeling that.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
It's like because I'm trying to make TNA my normal
watch on Thursdays, it's likeI'm still getting acclimated to
it.
But guess who popped up on tnathat I was not prepared to see.
And what's even funnier, sheshows up and is teaming up with

(56:23):
uh, goddamn, uh Tessa Blanchard.
I think I hold on In TNA.
She goes by Victoria Crawford,but you would know her as Alicia
Fox.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Yeah, she's working with Santino now, isn't she?

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Mm-hmm, Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
That was quite the surprisebecause, like, I'm watching the
match and I'm like because theVictoria Crawford I didn't
recognize.
But I'm looking at this girl asshe's coming out to the ring.
I'm like hold up, because shecomes out to the ring and she's
got.
You know how she always has thatfreaking the onesie kind of she

(57:10):
always has like that, that,that, um, I forget what it's
called.
It's not garland, jesus christ,wow, garland, no, the boa, you
know like.
Oh, because she would alwaysyeah, she would always come out
with the boa yeah, yeah yeah,wear it.
She just always has it.
Does the little dip with it andI was like she did all those

(57:33):
mannerisms.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
I'm like why you look familiar.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Alicia Fox statue.
Yes, they kind of startedtalking about her and everything
and she literally did the thingwhere it's like she showed up,
she won a match and now she'sabout to fight for the woman's
title, like that's that's whereshe's at right now nostalgia,

(57:59):
it's like, uh, and of course youknow, aid in english on on
commentary.
You know, he, he, he did bringup the fact that you know that
you know she's been in thebusiness for a minute and you
know, due to her accolades, andyou know, in her, uh, you know
in the other places that she'sbeen, and blah, blah.
I'm like, okay, no, that isalicia fox.

(58:21):
Wow, okay, I see you girl, youstill out here doing the thing.
I fucks with it.
It's just kind of funny thatyou were Tessa Blanchard with
all the.
You know, tessa, we coming foryou, yeah, yeah, oh, is this,
I'm guessing?
Like, is this Tessa's way?

(58:42):
Of like, look, I have blackfriends.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Like, oh my yo, that's crazy, because that's
literally the equivalent of that.
And if she has a partner who isPOC next, then it's a rip.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
It is a rip oh, my goodness, but fam, that's,
that's my spill on this week,this week of wrestling.
That's my spill on this week,this week of wrestling.
Yes, that's, that's, that's my.
That's my spill, like it iswhat it is.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
But hell yeah to alicia fox and well, get better,
come back, get clean I I knowwe originally had the topic of
um mid-card wanting to talkabout the mid card division that
we were familiar with.
But I really do want to dive ina little bit um in the future

(59:38):
with the commentary thing,because I feel like you know a
lot of episodes people talkabout wrestling and people talk
about um, the matches and stufflike that.
But I don't think a lot ofpeople have full-on conversation
about commentators and the oneswe all enjoy, because I mean we
got Taz, we got, you know, paulHeyman as a commentator, just

(59:59):
like I wouldn't say kind ofdoing a top tens list.
I think we could probably dothat.
Of our top tens, I meantechnically my first one, my
number one is a given.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
You would put Joey Styles at number one for
commentating.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Oh my god.
Yes, and JR would be second.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
I mean the fact that he's number one, so that already
made him over JR, but JR issecond.
Listen, listen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Okay, okay, who would you say is your number one?

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
That's a good question.
I mean, if I really thoughtabout it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
On the spot.
On the spot.
We'll make it another episode,but on the spot.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
My number one.
Yeah, no, it probably wouldhave to be JR.
Now I will say because I'vewatched some old school stuff
yeah, I want to say because theit was back when Gorilla Monsoon

(01:01:18):
was doing it it was a greatcommentator too and he was with.
I want to say, was it?
Jesse Ventura no, no, no.
I do fuck with Jesse Ventura asa commentator that's what I'm
saying, actually, actually.
I really do fuck with JesseVentura as a commentator.
I fuck with Jesse Ventura,alright, bro, even as the

(01:01:42):
conspiracy theorist that hecurrently is these days no, did
you see?

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
it was a video of him talking to like I want to say
it was congress or somethinglike that and he was talking
about like when he enlisted inthe army and he went to vietnam
and stuff like that.
He came back and then he servedhis country.
He was like saying, uh, I wantto go back to vietnam.
And he said his sergeant's likewhat, why would you want to do
that?
He says because at least inthat country I'm considered a

(01:02:08):
man.
I went to serve my country andthis and this and that, and I
come back.
I can't get a beer, I can't dothis, I can't even vote, I can't
do all these things, but yet Iwent to serve my country and
give my life on the line and I'mstill treated like a boy here.
Fuck that, send me back to.
Send me back to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Vietnam.
Say what you want about JesseVentura, especially like now and
his like him being, you know,the older gentleman that he is.
It's like, granted, there'stimes where Jesse he definitely
be wearing the tinfoil hatreally hard sometimes.

(01:02:50):
However, at the same time, whenyou think about the shit that
he's seen, the shit that he'sdone, the places that he's been,
what he has become and wherehe's at right now, he's one of
those people.
He's one of the few people youknow what Wear that hat.
You earned it Because, honestly, you're probably right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
And we're the stupid ones.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
I listen.
There is stuff that JesseVentura be saying that I be you
ever get in a randomconversation with a bunch of
black guys and they're going onabout like illuminati and all
this other stuff and you know,you know the rap game they're
everyone's getting you know buttraped and stuff like that to

(01:03:39):
get their records put out thereand stuff like that.
Like you know, like when theyget into that, like that weird,
very niche conversation, yeah,yes, so like jessie ventura is
the kind of person he's, if youhad those conversations, jessie
would probably be like well, ofcourse that like you guys are

(01:04:04):
just smartening up to this andrealizing it, like this has been
going on since forever.
It is one of those things whereit's all like jesse knows way
too much and the way in the, inthe way that jesse moves because
I've watched him in podcastsand listened to what he says I'm
like the way that he moves, thethings that he knows, yeah, no,

(01:04:26):
there's a reason why he doesn'thave a cell phone, he doesn't
watch TV and he lives in as thehow is it that?
Will Sasso In the middle of thebar?
But let's Take my big pussyPleasure.

(01:04:46):
I love me some.
Jesse Vent ventura and Iactually love.
I hope he's actually going tobe there for saturday night main
event.
Honestly, if I had the time andI had the funds, but more so if
I just had the time time yeah,it's a big thing I definitely

(01:05:07):
would have tried to get tosaturday night main event.
It would have been it'd toSaturday Night Maid event.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
It would have been really dope because it's
something as a wrestling fan itwasn't our era and just the
nostalgia behind it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
It's funny because I remember, because it was from
the old school and remember, forthat brief moment they kind of
brought it back and whatnot,which was fun.
but like I like how they'vebrought it back this time it's
like literally the same thing,like it used to be back in the
day yeah, I like how they'vebrought it back this time and I

(01:05:42):
even more so like the fact thatthey brought jesse ventura into
it, just because like to hearhim do, to hear him do his jesse
.
The body now is like damn,jesse, you're, you still got it,
even though you're old and alittle, a little crazy in a good

(01:06:05):
way, but he's still, he stilldone, he still gets it done.
And I love some of theout-of-pocket, like his boiler
room, some of it like whoa.
There was something that he hadsaid about somebody that I was
like I think I know what you'retalking about.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
I just can't remember it right now.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
I don't remember the exact hot take, but he just came
out the bat with I was justlike all right, Jesse Out of
nowhere.
Very much so, Very much so.
But to answer the question fornow, we'll say JR.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Okay, I will say challenge for next week is to
look back at your favoritecommentators of all time.
I feel like mine would change,but a part of me is there's just
something about that.
Oh my God, it's just somethingabout it, bro.
God, it's just something aboutit, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
I will say I have to give him credit and I can
understand why he would like itso much because, like, when he
was commentating, it was justhim.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Yeah, he was doing it solo and he had to be both a JR
and a.
He had to be a JR and a King atthe same time, so he had to be
color comment and a King at thesame time.
So he had to be colorcommentator and a complete like
give you everything and he wouldjust be him which that is now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
That is another thing I can also give him credit for,
because, like he was absolutelygoing to be him and he was
going to take shit from nobody.
But once again, you know,that's just ECW yeah, he
apparently is doing mlw in a.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Uh, I think he's doing another promotion.
I didn't know about this untilI was like where is joey styles
right now?
I think somebody was having aconversation about favorite
commentators and he popped upand I was like where the fuck is
joey styles?
Like what is he doing?
Like why is he not?
I'm you know what.
As much as I would enjoy uh, asI currently enjoyed the AEW
cast, I'm like he would fit sogood in these pay-per-views with

(01:08:20):
, like say, watch that We'll allspray in um Kyle Fletcher match
.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
And then I'm doing that moonsault.
I'm like, yeah, like bruh bruh.
Now, and only because I knowwe'll probably dive deeper into
it next week, I will say whocould have been my favorite
announcer, and the only reasonwhy I can't make him be my
favorite is because I justdidn't get enough time with him

(01:08:51):
Mauro Ronaldo, yes yes listenMauro.
if it was not for the fact thatJBL was such a piece of shit
bully and made him leave, kindof thing.

(01:09:13):
Oh my, listen Mauro.
If Mauro could have still beenin WWE all the way up until this
point in some capacity, hewould have easily been my
favorite announcer period, Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Over JR.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Over JR bro, damn Over JR.
Over JR bro, damn Fam.
Mauro was gold.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
He was.
He could not fumble.
He did not fumble, watching NXTmatches with him as a voice.
Oh my gosh, that, honestly, wasa part of what made the black
and gold what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
He sounded amazing when he was announcing and like
he was quick with it with justthe things that he said is like
he brought.
He brought the jr energy with anew voice and a new twang and
he because he was also like intune with just the world that

(01:10:10):
was going on around him, likethere would just be certain
things that he, you know hewould make a.
He would compare something thathappened in the ring with
something that was going on.
You know it was like uhcurrently in the world yeah,
like, even like I was trying to,I was trying to make up one, I
was like, I was like he's morebeat.

(01:10:31):
I was about to make a referenceto the Diddy Trial, because I
found out that that's actuallyhappening right now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
So the Diddy Trial's been crazy already it's only
been a week since it's beengoing on.
Like I literally was justtelling my roommate who was also
arrested, ray Zeon, big reglike he was saying the fact that
like it's only been a week andit's gotten so extremely crazy.

(01:11:03):
And I would say to him I waslike fam, this is about to be
bigger than the Michael Jacksontrial, like cause you remember
when the Michael Jackson trialhappened and how everybody was
just waiting by the TV day byday to get their information?

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Or the R Kelly trial, either one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
I feel the R Kelly trial not to be not to really be
trying to rank trials, but Ifeel like R Kelly trial, R
Kelly's trial, didn't live up tothe hype that the Michael
Jackson trial did, Because thattrial was crazy and there was a
lot of but the is this Diddytrial, the baby oil trial that

(01:11:46):
we got with the Diddy party.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
The baby oil trial that we got with the ditty
parties.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
The baby oil trial is crazy oh, my brother testify
because that actually fits withwhat's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Actually, you probably shouldn't testify no, I
mean, I was at the parties andno, no, I was not at the parties
which.
No, no, I was not at theparties which.
Going off topic, but going backinto the commentators, in the
future let's go into this midcard.
So, mid card, wise man, we I.
The mid card is something thatit's not as talked about as some

(01:12:27):
people should and valued andenjoyed as some people should.
But a mid card is veryimportant and I never got the
chance to.
I don't think we were making alist, but we just want to talk
about some of our favorite midcard wrestlers in general, and
two of them that I could thinkof immediately is the APA.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Okay, now, because I know originally you was talking
about like, who was your like,which era was your favorite
mid-color?

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
yes, yes, that was yes and so like.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
after kind of looking , it's like there is there's a
part of me where it's likethere's like the, the potential
that the mid card had, and thenlike how good the actual mid
card was.
I feel I still feel that theRoofless Aggression era, going

(01:13:39):
into the PG era, mid-card waslike still was still rather
top-notch.
I feel, as if they were good,but they were good in the sense
where it's all where, uh, how amI trying to say this?
They were good in the sensewhere they had the skills to be

(01:14:05):
something great, but they werenot used properly.
And a and a and a good exampleof that, just just to give you a
couple of names that wouldrepresent that particular
statement La Resistance, thattag team, shelton, benjamin

(01:14:33):
Carlito.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
Romaine, carlito or Maven.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
you actually give it to Maven, okay and if I want to
stretch it a little bit morewhen it comes to like the talent
that they had and like theycould have done so much more
with them, the last person I'mgoing to throw on that list just
to prove my point MVP.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Are you an MVP fan for years?

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Yes, I am, and always have been, always will be, a
Montel Vontavious Porter guy.
But what I'm saying is Are youcoming?
I'm not even going to stop that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Nobody going to stop me, nobody going to hold me,
nobody can.
I'm comfy, that's what you'retelling me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
I'm here to do a thing I'm never going to change.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
I ain't going to lie.
The Shocker is a terriblerapper, but he made that shit go
hard.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
When we was doing the intros and whatnot, I listened
to MVP's theme song and I'm likeman, this shit whack as fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
And he's like drop the cannon, I got the juice, let
the dog loose.
It's just like, not like Tina,something like I'm shooting the
free throw, like what the fuckis he talking about?
Don't matter, those bars wereso bad, I'm shooting the free

(01:16:16):
throw Like what the fuck is hetalking about?

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
Don't matter, those bars were so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
But when he says I'm coming, that shit get you hype.
I'm coming.
One, two, you hit the clock.
Hit the clock, tick, tick, tick, talk, talk, talk you about to
start living, tick, talk.
I want you in my memory Becausethey don't have no memory.
I'm coming like that shit gohard that shit go hard.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
It's funny cause it's like thinking about how I, how
we used to be, we used to besinging that shit like it was
some real stuff and there's likecause you and me being rappers
you know, there's.
You're listening to the song,you're like, yeah, I like this
song, but then you finally likestop and actually like analyze
the words of the song, and thenyou're all this is why I enjoy

(01:17:19):
john cena's.
My time is now because, from alyrical standpoint, trademark
the truth he delivered brolisten, yesivered, even though
in both songs, whether it'sBasic Thuganomics or my Time, is

(01:17:41):
Now the second verse.
It's one of those things youdon't really want.
You don't pay attention to it,but Trademark was the truth.
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Chain gang is the clique Trademark was the truth,
now All right.
Chain gang is the click.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Trademark is the truth.
This is Facebook.
I'm right here for you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
I'm right here for you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
We ride together, we fight together.
Right now we're about to getlive together.
Chain gang is the click.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Bro, that shit went hard.
Oh my God, anybody thatlistened to that.
I remember I was getting pickedon as a kid listening to that
album because it wasn't like 50Cent or some shit.
But then here's the thing mystepbrothers was like actually,
they actually listened to likeone or two of the songs and it
was like yo, yo, yo, actuallythis shit go hard.

(01:18:33):
I'm like, yeah, so I listenedto that shit for two seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Listen to this bro, bro, it's the joint baby.
Gotta make it loud.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
You know what I'm saying like what was my, what
was my song?

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
it was uh, you already know, my song was bad
man yeah, you, you, you, youfucking love that goddamn song
um devils rocking alien levels.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
I remember my stuff.
I want to see me in these beatsand them seas and them beats is
what I eat.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
My rhymes are sick of the gangrene in both feet
Spreading out the leg and headand foot.
Boy, fuck with Bumpy Knucklesdog.
What are we doing right now?

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Bumpy Knuckles is one of those.
If I could ever get a featurefrom a certain artist, bumpy is
one of them, because you bumpy,bumpy is one uh, I'm trying to
think there's a couple otherpeople, but bumpy is definitely
one of them I'm definitelyprobably getting a trademark.

(01:19:32):
I'm definitely definitelygetting a trademark.
True, midcard-wise.
Come back into that Midcard.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
You say Roofless Aggression, this again is
midcard for any federation orany promotion.

(01:20:01):
Now, when we talk about anypromotion, if I could say so, if
I say that ruthless aggression,era is a underrated mid card
because, like when thoseparticular five people, all
those guys were mid cars, theydidn't see a lot of day of the
main event type thing, becauseback then the main event was so
locked down tight that theseguys, they just they, they never
peaked intercontinental and ustitles only kind of thing, but

(01:20:23):
it's like they were.
So they were so good ofwrestlers that they should have
been better, and that's thething about the ruthless
aggression era.
Um, that's, that's the thingabout the Ruthless Aggression
era.
That's the thing about thoseparticular mid cards.
Because there are other era midcards that I feel like they were

(01:20:46):
good kind of but in forrealness they were trash.
But I will say I think when itcomes to the strongest midcard
I've ever seen, TNA, TNA'smidcard will beat the hell out

(01:21:06):
of anybody Between.
2000 midcard between 2000,.
You know what?
Six sided ring era literallybeats everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
There's no one better black mochi oh my god, black
mochismo.
We're talking about Sanjay Dunn.
We're talking about freakingabyss you got technically aj was
technically mid-card.
Not really, really, honestly hewas upper mid-card that's the

(01:21:46):
thing, a thing about with tna,and this is, you know, I know,
attitude era.
Everybody had the ability to betop guys but, like tna to me
didn't feel like it had amid-card.
Everybody had the ability to betop guys but, like tna to me,
didn't feel like it had itmid-card.
Everybody had the capability ofbeing the motherfucking guys
like everyone, let's talk aboutit literally, especially black

(01:22:10):
bull cheese.
My bro, he was red hot, he couldhave did it.
Consequences creed like when hewould like.
You know, obviously, with thattime he he was, he would have to
me been like the definition ofa mid-car king.
Kenny king wasn't around thattime.
No, he wasn't.
No, he wasn't always.
I was like kenny king is agreat mid-car wrestler.
Fucking loved kenny king's work.
I remember watching him cut apromo backstage when I was

(01:22:32):
working as a security guard andhe was like yo, you mind if I
run this by you.
And I was like fuck, yes, well,what, what is your problem?
And he cut the promo in frontof me and I was like yeah,
that's right, you did used towork, you.
You did used to work at tna uhsecurity yeah yeah yeah, yeah,

(01:22:53):
met kurt angle in the bistro,met jeff hardy a couple of times
.
Uh, matt morgan just a coupleof people just backstage in the
bistro, because the bistro wasright next to the studio, so
literally all you had to do waswalk across the street and the
bistro was right there.
Yeah, let's bobby lashley.
Actually, bobby lashley, I usedto work at the gate and every

(01:23:16):
once in a while he'll come inand I had to interact with him
too.
So, bobby Lashley, I've had acouple of times even interacting
with him.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
That also reminds me, because you work security, you
also used to work HalloweenHorror Nights.
Met Seamus, met Roman.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
Reigns, everybody, you've met everybody.
Halloween Horror Nights metSeamus, met Roman Reigns
everybody, you've met everybodyliterally I almost got fired
because of James Storm.
I remember that shit.
I almost got fired because ofJames Storm.
I was like man, I want to takea photo with hey man, take a
photo with me.
Is this a request you aremaking or is it god?
Man, come on, take a photo withme.

(01:23:55):
I was like okay, cool, andalmost got fired.
He said what was it?
This his request?
Yes, it was his request.
He knew I was a wrestling fanand he says I want you to take a
photo with me.
So it was like, okay, if hemade the request, you're okay.
Uh, ec3, you know, and not to toget really big on his history

(01:24:16):
with Velveteen, since we kind ofbriefly talked about it last
year, well, not last year, lastepisode EC3, whenever I met him
he was always sauced, alwayssauced, of course, especially
when I had to work M mardi grasand he was.
I remember I don't thinkkennedy said the story, but he

(01:24:40):
did say a couple of times likewe would hang out with ec3 and
he was always sauced.
And I was like I remember, uh,making a space for ec3 and mr
kennedy at uh mardi gras andwhen I tell you that man reeked
of the stuff.
It was like damn.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Listen like you don't want to try and it's hard.
It's hard to be hearing thesethings and be like I mean
there's two sides to the story.
But but, fam, TNA, to me sixside ring TNA midcard.

(01:25:27):
You're correct, in my mindthere was no midcard.
There were, there were, therewere jobbers yeah, yeah and then
there was and there was theroster.
Actually you can't separatethem as like midcard jobbers and

(01:25:52):
you know main inventors,there's main inventors, there's
main inventors, there's theknockouts and then there's the X
Division.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
I think the reason why because there's no mid card,
because the X Divisiontechnically was the mid card but
the X Division was better thanthe fucking title like
heavyweight title.
You didn't watch it for theheavyweight title, you watched
it for the X Division.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
You hear me though.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
So it's interesting whereas ECW is my thing, tna is
your thing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
Yeah, the only difference is that to my team
it's like my TNA is still thing.
Yeah, the only difference isthat my TNA is still around.
However, they're not total,non-stop action.
It's not the TNA-able.
They're trying really hard,though I have to give it the tna

(01:26:56):
they're.
They're really trying tobecause, like, I feel as if,
like they're, they're strongwhere they're at right now, but
there's still that feeling as ifthey're just they're holding on
tightly to nostalgia could havebeen yeah, because it's like
you know, they still have acouple of like your, and I think

(01:27:19):
that also is the piece thatkind of hurts, in my opinion.
kind of hurts them is the factthat, like because tna has gone
through so much and whatnot,there's there's this weird void
in the middle of TNA historywhere that void is so deep and

(01:27:41):
strong, where it's like oldschool TNA, it feels so
disconnected to TNA now.
Connected to TNA now and I knowa lot of that has to do with
the fact, like when it made itswitch to Impact it really

(01:28:01):
fucked it up.
And so it was like, but eventhen, like before they made the
switch to Impact, they was in,they was dying, they was in this
downward spiral and dying for avery long time.
And then it was like because,like I know, for me, I know I
was watching tn8 really, reallystrong for a hot minute, and

(01:28:24):
then there was a certain pointwhere it was like it was just
getting stupid.
It was just, it just wasn'tgood anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
It's getting stupid.
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
For real, though, I think which now, because this
way I know I'd be able topinpoint it, but when the Aces
and Eights storyline was goingon, that was when TNA was really

(01:28:56):
falling off for me, when BubbaRay Dudley was dating Brooke
Hogan you might hate me for thisI enjoyed Aces and Eights.
I liked Aces and Eights in thebeginning, but it was like.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
Yeah, that's where I was down.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
Listen, aces and and eights to me did the nwo thing,
where it started out really good, it was really fun, it was
really nice, but then all thesepeople started joining and then
it just kind of felt like we'rejust dragging it along and then

(01:29:37):
and then, like I said, then thewhole like love story between
brooke hogan and bubba ray andall this other stuff, and it was
like, and it did that thingwhere it was, like it was
drowning out to me.
Maybe someone else might thinkdifferently, but to me the whole
aces and eights bullshit waslike drowning out the rest of

(01:30:00):
the TNA locker room stuff.
So, like people weren't likewhere it was one of those
situations where, like how itwas for the ruthless aggression
era, like we got all of thisgood talent, all of these good
mid-card people that can easilyget pushed up into the main
event area.
But the problem is the mainevent area is being gatekept and

(01:30:27):
nobody's letting any new niggasin there.
It's being gatekept by allthese old heads that are
currently up in there andthey're not, and they're every
time someone's like hey, can Iget in this main event?
Access denied, go sit down.
That's why AJ left.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
I mean, that's kind of one of the reasons why, in
general, like TNA was like, oh,you got fired from WWE, come on,
yeah, come to.
Tna was like, oh, you got firedfrom WWE, come on.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Oh yeah, come to TNA.
We'll pay you a whole bunch ofmoney to fuck around and hang
around the top area and push allthe TNA talent down, because
who was all in Aces and Nates?

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
It was Bully.
It was D it was bully.
It was devon.
It was uh, uh, briscoe.
Um, air bischoff's son, he wasin there.
Uh, some new people in there.
I know luke gallows was inthere.
Uh, some blonde dude, I can'tremember his name, but he was a
new talent.
And um, mr anderson got in atone point.

(01:31:38):
Taz was in it.
That's all I can think of rightnow.
Devon Dudley, not Devon Dudley.
D'lo Brown, d'lo Brown.
D'lo Brown, d'lo Brown.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Oh, D'Lo Brown wasn't there.
I can barely remember D'LoBronbeing a part of that he was like
almost at the end-ish cause, Iknow, I remember like there was
a moment where it was like theleader of aces and eights.
No one knew who it was and then, like it turned out, it was I'm
pretty certain.

(01:32:12):
Like didn't it turn out thatthe leader was well, no, cause
like there was someone else whowas like above Bully it was, I'm
pretty certain like didn't itturn out that the leader was was
uh, well no, because like therewas someone else who was like
above Bully, ray, and thatperson turned out to be, didn't
that person turn out to be D-Von?

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
Like no D-Von was the D-Von was the person running it
until Bully whenever he turnedokay.
So remember when he was tryingto get with Brooke Hogan right
and then he had the cage matches.
When he finally revealed he wasthe leader of aces and eights
and Devon was his soldier, whowas like yo, you're going to say
you're the leader right nowuntil I actually reveal myself

(01:32:45):
as a leader.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
Okay, yeah, that's that's how I was remembering,
yeah, so like yeah, no, it'slike because it was during this
time, because I just I typed ina quick picture.
I'm like, ah, the tnaheavyweight title was everything
to be bro oh, that bill.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
It looks like the big goal for you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
That's why I to this day, I still I don't want, I
need, if I, as well as thingslike I I purposely don't look
for it, like I actually onceupon a time, like I found it
online and I like favorited itand every once in a while I

(01:33:28):
would click on that favoritelink to see, like, do they still
have that belt there?
I haven't tried it in a longtime Because my finances are
just a little bit more stable.
If I click on it and I find outthat they still have that belt
there, my finances are going tobecome unstable Because I'm by
that fucking belt.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
There are a couple of belts that are like that.
For me, like the Gift of theGods.
Title.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
The Gift of the God.
Is that a that's?

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
a Lucha underground.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
Okay, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
Where they had to put the seven, the seven medallion
pieces on it.
That bitch, that bitch is coldblooded bro, that's just cold
blooded.
The, the new Japan heavyweighttitle, the before it became a
toy um if I'm not mistaken.
I think antonio has yeah, he hasthat one.

(01:34:22):
That's why, when I went overthat time to hang out with you
guys, he was like you'dappreciate this and I was like,
oh, you, okay, you mother, youmother, my god, of course I want
this belt.
I, I need this belt, and yougot it.
If we could retake that photoof us all with our belts, my

(01:34:42):
belt, it would be between theECW heavyweight title, not the
one from WWE, the original one.
It'd be between that one or theNew Japan one.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
What did the original ECCD title look like?

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
It was black and red.
I'm gonna look that bitch up.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
I'm bad because I typed that in and it's like all
it's giving me is the WWEversion.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
Is the.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
ECW title.
Is it the one that has like the?
It says it's got the ECW at thetop and it's got like the red
letters and stuff like that.
Yeah, okay, that's still theoriginal ECW title.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
I remember they first brought that in.
Yeah for Rob Van Dam like theyhad that belt there because Kane
won that belt when it lookedlike that still and so, and then
they, they eventually changedit, which personally I kind of

(01:35:54):
and this is maybe it's justbecause I don't have a strong
attachment to ECW, but I didn'tmind the ECW belt that WWE made
the silver.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
It's not a bad belt, it's just it's not a good one.
Yeah, it's like taking.
Okay, how did you feel when theBlue Eagle was switched to the
Undisputed title?
How did you feel looking atthat belt?
Because I hate the Undisputedtitle, I hate that belt, I hate

(01:36:27):
how it looks.
I hate that belt.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
Yeah, it's not my favorite yeah, it's not my
favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
Yeah, like, from going from the book the blue
eagle to the undisputed title, Ihated that belt and, if I'm not
mistaken, before it was hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:36:45):
Was it because before it was like the, the blue eagle
, it was like the, the the,instead of like the fancy one it
was.
It was still the round blueeagle, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And even then I still preferredthat over the Undisputed title.
The Undisputed title literallyhad to grow on me.

Speaker 1 (01:37:04):
It never grew on me.
To me it's the Brock Lesnarbelt.
I don't care what anybody says,it's the Brock Lesnar belt.
That's the only person that Ican connect that belt to, and
not to say like Eddie Guerrerowinning it and everybody else.
It's just.
The only person I can rememberwith that belt is Brock Lesnar.

(01:37:27):
Primarily Brock Lesnar.
Yes, because it's the onlyperson that if it was being worn
by somebody, it looked good onBrock.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
I mean I hated it on Brock.
I mean I hated it on Brock backthen, but honestly I still
don't care the fact that BrockLesnar had that belt for so
fucking long.

Speaker 1 (01:37:46):
You know why I also hated it?
Because the SmackDown Shut yourMouth, the way it looked on
that game was gross.
It looked like a damn toy theway they made their belts back
in that day and smack down hereuh, shut your mouth, and not
here comes the pain, becausehere comes the pain.
I think it was the big gold andthe uh spinner belt at that

(01:38:07):
time, wasn't it?
No, he was still the title, hewas still the undisputed title.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
Yeah, and the spinner belt was the US title belt.
Which that was a solid belt Tothis day still want the spinner
belt, us title belt, of course.

Speaker 1 (01:38:24):
I remember when he first got that belt and he did
that skit with the shorty, hewas like can we touch it?

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
And I was like, bro, I saw that skit not too long ago
and I'm just like bro, I sawthat not too long ago and I'm
just like wow, we did that backthen.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
Look at the belt on the game.
It looked like booty.
It looked booty.

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
Yeah, it did not look up to it, definitely did not
look up to par for how not lookup to the up to par for, like
how good it was meant to be,kind of saying cause, like,
honestly, it's because of thatthe reason why I became such a
big gold kind of guy is like andof course, my kid brain at the

(01:39:11):
time.
Even now, I was like why wouldI want to be the WWE brain?
At the time, and even now I waslike why would I want to be the
WWE champion when I can be thechampion of the world?

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
I see where your brain is going.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
Or was I missing something?

Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
No, I see where your brain is going.
I see what you're cooking.
I see what you're cooking.

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
And so I'm just like and of course, at the time, like
because Triple H held the belt,god, triple H looked good with
the big gold.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
I literally put it in the video that I made.
So you saw that I did it onpurpose, because, yeah, it
really looks good on Triple H.

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
Listen, I don't give a damn what Lord Zay says here.
Damn title Bitch.
Oh man, I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
I know you was mad.
You was mad about that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
I absolutely cannot stand, lord Zayn, with this here
.
Damn bullshit fucking.
How dare you talk down about mybig goal?

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
And look, and that right now is Jey Uso here, damn.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
Wow, you know, that's why Damien Priest ain't got
shit.
I'm sorry, yeah, no.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
I mean no, I mean cause we had.
It was a here, damn too let mecalm down.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
He did too.
I ain't gonna lie that's whatI'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:40:43):
It was a here damn cause.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
That title reign was not rememberable, but okay, but
just in case, just in case,cause we did have that.
What happened with that weirdcut?
Like, could you still hear mewhen we had that weird dip out?
I can still hear you, yeah,okay.
Now I have to see how thiscomes in.

Speaker 1 (01:41:06):
No, there's a point where you pause in the scene.
You're like, and you're talkingfor a good minute.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
It's hilarious this is gonna be one of those
interesting episodes, but but,as you said, my final comments
on, like the mid cards, like inbetween, from the ruthless
aggression and then I will alsoeven say like that, the PG era

(01:41:40):
kind of stuff there were.
Just there was guys that werein the midcard that, like number
one, they was giving the mostass gimmicks and then they did
not get their time to shine,kind of thing.
They did not get their time toshine kind of thing, or they was
giving really bad gimmicks andnot given a time, given the
chance to like make it actuallywork, like freaking Cause.

(01:42:04):
People who was also in that car, like remember Jimmy Wang, yeah
, Remember that guy man.

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
Look man, as dumb as that gimmick was bro he was
getting love.
He was getting.
He was getting love fucking.
It was just a.
I hated that shit cause he didit like the right way, but it
was just that shit eating like.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
I hated it A-Train, remember Tensai yes, tensai.

Speaker 1 (01:42:44):
Tensai was supposed to go over.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
He was supposed to be big and you know what happened,
john Cena the shovel was realand he became a.
He became a funkasaurus, thepartner to the funkasaurus.
I feel like at that time at hisage, weren't they called tons

(01:43:09):
of fun?

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
oh no, don't remind me, don't, and we go, we go, we
go in this off the right way.
When it comes to these pick,when it comes to our mid card,
you say tna, ruthless aggression, but tna, overall six-sided
ring era is your era.
For me it's a mix between LuchaUnderground's midcard, where

(01:43:39):
you had Killshot, you had, youknow, king, king Cuerno, which
is Santo Escobar, yeah, andwhenever he came and I was like
why do I see this tattoo?
Is that him?
So yeah, and I was like why,why do I see this tattoo?
Is that Him?
So yeah, and Even though Miriamwent there, he was A mid card.

(01:44:01):
At one point you had Monting himoff.
You had Willie Mac oh my god,willie Mac doing the Stunner.
Bro, he, his Finisher, is thestunner.
He's one of the only otherpeople that he hits that bitch.
He hits right.
Um, who else we had?

(01:44:22):
Um, uh, b b was also a good he.
I always thought he was jtgbecause he used to always wear a
do-rag to the ring, but itwasn't him.
Come to find out.
There's so many people in thatmidcard for Lucha Underground
that I enjoyed.
And then, obviously, attitudeEra for me is always going to be

(01:44:42):
a great midcard.
So those were my two eras ofmidcard.
If I'm going to, if I'm goingto be seen, I feel, the Attitude
Era midcard.

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
there's a part of me that feels that the Attitude Era
midcard is slightly overrated,only slightly.

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
I can understand that .

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
And it's only just because the Attitude Era midcard
was cool because of thegimmicks that the wrestlers had,
literally Now, whether or notthe wrestlers that was given
these particular gimmicks inthat midcard were actually
fucking good, nah, not the case.

(01:45:32):
Different story, not the case.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
And that's me forcefully taking the rose
colored glasses off, which iswhy, as much as a cool gimmick
and theme, he was not that greatof a wrestler.
The godfather.
His matches were never thatspectacle.
He was really there for.
The hoes um crash were neverthat spectacle.
It was really.

(01:45:58):
He was really there for thehoes um crash.
Bob hosney, hardcore holly, wasa good mid card to me, but not
somebody memorable enough toocool was a very good mid card
tag team.
You couldn't help but love themwhen they go out there.
There's so many people that'slike that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
And Listen, like freaking Mark Romero when he had
Sable we all know how that went, mark Romero got pushed to the
side and was like hey, hey, markRomero, move out the way.
Sable, you know like it's soPeople like him.
The British Bulldog no one givea fuck about the British

(01:46:36):
Bulldog like he did have thatbomb ass theme song there.

Speaker 1 (01:46:44):
That shit went hard.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
I mean now Grant, yeah, his Attitude Era theme
song did go hard.

Speaker 1 (01:46:50):
Big.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
Boss man is another one of those people where now,
big Boss man, he actuallybenefited from the Attitude Era
and Big Boss man he's mid-card,but he was a main event jobber.

Speaker 1 (01:47:04):
Yes, because he would job to Austin so many times.

Speaker 2 (01:47:08):
Listen, he was the one he fought all of the big,
important people and never won,but he still looked good enough.
Where, when, like, you know howwe can point case, you know how
we're complaining about howGunther lost his match, yeah,
and then how we're actuallycomplaining about how he won his

(01:47:30):
match, yeah, which is kind offunny when you say that, like,
why complain about how he won?
Because of who he fought BigBoss man, you never complain
about him losing and, even moreso, you never necessarily
complain about him winning.

Speaker 1 (01:47:49):
No, you just hate him as a character.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
You just Exactly, you just hated him because he was a
shit-eating heel and he wasVince McMahon was paying him
Because he was feeding off ofVince McMahon's pockets, he was
one of his hitmen.
And so I was like, yes, yes,gunther, do better.

(01:48:13):
Goddammit.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
But as don't they do better, god damn it.
But I would love to hear fromour audience in the comment
section whether, if you'rewatching the pod on all
streaming platforms by the way,outside of just YouTube, we are
all streaming platforms.
But if you wanted to comment,what is your favorite mid car
from any promotion, any era, anytime, what is your mid car?
And give us some of those, anyera, any time, what is your
mid-car?
And give us some of thosepeople, explain why.

(01:48:38):
We would love to hear it,especially even bringing them up
in the next episodes.
We'd love to hear get yourguys' comments and kind of
incorporate them in the episodesin some way, shape or form.
We love hearing from ouraudience.
We love being able to, if not,chat with our audience and their
opinions on wrestling too.
We it's not just us here, it'syou guys too.

(01:48:59):
We are a community, we'reeverything.
So we definitely appreciatey'all and thank you.
Also, if you've been watchingthis video to its completion,
make sure you like hit thesubscribe button and tune into
our next episodes, where we'regonna go over top 10
commentators.
Man, I'm going to have adifficult time sitting down and
having to go back to watchmatches and finding my

(01:49:22):
commentator, because now thatyou bring certain people up,
gorilla Monsoon, I remembersomebody said Vince McMahon was
their favorite commentator ofall time.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
That's fair.
I mean, look what was this songwas actually just talk about
how I was like you know thewhole when came first made his
debut and everything's gotta beokay man.
Yeah, yeah, we know.
Yeah, like say what you wantabout his sex life.
But like, sex life and personallife aside, you gotta give this

(01:50:01):
McMahon his credit and some ofhis dues.

Speaker 1 (01:50:05):
As a person who innovated the industry yeah,
absolutely Taking the R awayfrom the person yes.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
That just made me think of something.
Don't want to.
I'm not gonna say I'm not gonnasay it on the pod, but it just
you say.
That just made me think of likea thing that I had in my mind
about the whole vince or mansituation.

Speaker 1 (01:50:30):
But I'll tell you when we're done here, but okay
well, do you have any Outside ofeverything from the episode?
Guys, like I said before, thankyou so much for hanging out
with us.
This is another episode of theBig Brothers of Destruction
podcast, as where there is thering, there is smoke, and we

(01:50:50):
will always leave destruction.
It's the Masako.

Speaker 2 (01:50:55):
It's your boy.
Sw Swag Switcher in thebuilding signing off
no-transcript.

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