Summer Slam Post Show!

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to another episode of the Big Brothers of
the the Big Brothers ofDestruction podcast.
It's the Masako.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's your boy.
Swag Switcher in the building.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
And it's your boy Story of Sorrows.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
I'm not trying to fuck it up this time, you feel
me, I'm not trying to fuck it up.
This time, you feel me, I'm nottrying to fuck it up.
So, um, yes, guys, welcome toanother episode.
We just got finished watchingsummer slam and man both nights.
We we got a lot to talk about.
We got a lot of maybefrustrations, we got a lot of
hype.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
This is apparently going to be a new chapter for
wwe and what's going to happenwe don't know next, but before
we start, though, can we alsojust, uh, make a notice of the
fact that we are currently doingthis in the same area at the
same time?
Yeah, you might as well callthis the first time we've

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actually introduced the realdiscus lariat lounge.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, so for those who see meright here, because we got the
camera here and we also got thecamera there from where we're
looking at, I'm gonna be lookingthis way, because that's where
the maziku is, pretty much, yeah, but but yeah, this is a.

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This is the first time thatwe're doing here, so we're going
to see how this works.
Yes, don't get used to it, I'mkidding, get used to it, we're
going.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
I would hope you get used to it, the fuck you know
discus lariat lounge.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, no, I think it's pretty.
It's pretty very fitting of avery interesting two-night
SummerSlam pay-per-view.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
And honestly Say the least Wait, we might already
have.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
He done, broke it.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Look at him Nah, we didn't break shit, he broke it,
we didn't break shit.
Hey look, man, you got to giveus a chance.
You're giving us a chance.
All right, give us a chance.
Cool, cool, cool, there us achance, cool, there's always
going to be those first timehiccups there they're always
with the new setup.
Yes, there is all right.
So kind of pick it up wherewe're at.
Um, a lot, of, a lot of thingshappen in summer slam and we all
can agree summer slam was mid,but two things that happened in

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summer slam has made us feelsome type of way.
So rather than dwell on it, allright quick, let's just go
ahead and get it started andjust talk about this card.
So who wants to go first?
What's the first match you wantto go over?

Speaker 2 (02:36):
So before, Because Story over here is itching for
it.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Oh my God, yeah, his dick is hard, his dick is hard.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Do we go through it as it's lined up, from night one
to night two, or do we addressthe elephant in the room?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
first we kind of got to address the elephant in the
room, brock Lesnar.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
He's fucking bad baby .

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Oh my God, yeah, did y'all hear that Man's dick is
hard as hell?

Speaker 3 (03:06):
for Brock Lesnar right now.
I'm so happy about this.
I'm so amazed that it's goingto freshen up the product you
feel like it's 100% going tofreshen up the product.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I don't know how, but it is maybe the dream that
could happen.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Brock, rager and Brock.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Gunther and Ron.
So to dial it back real quick,just to set the scene for those
who are watching here.
Okay, because let it be known,it's not like we knew he was
going to show up, but the crazyfact was story over here in the
midst of us just talking shitabout everything.

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He was all like you know whatthis product needs?
This product needs Brock Lesnar.
I'm over here.
I'm like there's no way itcould be Brock Lesnar.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
You're talking all about Brock Lesnar's shit.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
It didn't make sense for there to be a Brock.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Lesnar.
Boom it drops.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
It was kind of wild I ain't going to lie.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
It was kind of wild, I ain't gonna lie.
It was kind of wild, for when,when you speak it out loud, you
think about it.
Right, brock lesnar has a wholebunch of or at least I thought,
a slew of other things thathe's dealing with, you know,
because his name was namedropped, kind of sort of name
dropped in the whatchamacallitgoing on with Vince McMahon the
Vince McMahon scandal.
Yeah, and so I figure, for thislong time everyone's been very

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hush hush and Brock Lesnar'sbeen very hush hush because I
don't know but, to be fair,brock Lesnar actually is a
really private person, likeoutside of everything and
personally, no one really knowsmuch about consent.
Private about it this is trueand the one thing that story
said that kind of holds true tothe fact what I was saying is

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the fact that sure, his namemight have been brought up, but
if we remember how it was allwritten, it never actually
happened.
It was supposed to, he was off,the girl was offered to him on
the plate, it was supposed tohappen but somehow, for whatever
reasons thank god for her itdidn't actually go down.
So I, for all intents andpurposes, brock lesnar, didn't

(05:17):
do anything wrong, I guess notyou actually trying to?

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I'm not not.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
This is a literal argument I had with him earlier
tonight.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
This is just me explaining the argument as it
happened, and he said.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
So what you're saying is Brock Lesnar didn't do
anything.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
And I'm in.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
And then his music started fucking playing.
Make sure you keep the mic on,you know, yeah.
And then his music startedfucking playing.
Make sure you keep the mic on,you know.
And then his music startedplaying.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Even after a few weeks ago he got Dion Cormier
released in a whole interviewsaying that Brock Lesnar's on
the shit list of everybody atTKO, that no one's gonna touch
him.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
And yet here he is.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Thank God.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
I didn't give a damn about it.
What's crazier now is the factthat, disregarding the fact,
cody Rhodes is our new WWEchampion, undisputed WWE
champion, one in as clean as astreet fight can be, cody Rhodes
won that pissed me off.

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And to talk about that realquick, because, going into this,
I wasn't buying.
I was not buying this wholeliterally out of nowhere.
John Cena faced her, becausethat's what it was, it was out
of nowhere.
Granted, john Cena said a lotof things that made perfect

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sense and it was buyable, but Idid not buy it.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
You got to forgive Swag.
He is sipping on our bougie teaand it's alcohol.
We spiked his, so he's on somebullshit right now Bullshit.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
I want y'all to realize that there is no way,
unless you're like him, whodrinks the john cena kool-aid,
who watched smackdown and wasall like damn, john cena is
genuine you know what?

Speaker 3 (07:19):
bougie sipping over here?

Speaker 2 (07:20):
all this is creepy there's no way that, at face
value, you could just have satthere and we was dealing with
this garbage might I add, thisgarbage heel turn, just for him
to be like okay, guys, you knowwhat this wasn't working.
I was, I was just being someone.

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I was not, you know, they waspulling my leg.
I was supposed to do this withthe Rock, but he didn't show up
and I was doing this on my own.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I realized the error of my way.
This is the words of a fuckinghater.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
A hater, or am I just speaking the truth?

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Haters, are you part of it?

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yes, all of those, those things, all of those
things.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I mean that.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
And Travis Scott, thank God, listen top of the
morning though end of the day Ipressed the wrong button but at
the end of the day I wasn'tbelieving button.
But at the end of the day Iwasn't believing it.
But at this point, with theintroduction of the beast
incarnate here, apparently thisis true and I still hold to it

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this whole heel turn, shit wasgarbage.
It was garbage.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
I mean I can't agree.
I mean, in the beginning it washype, it was something fresh to
me.
What can we do with Cena inthis situation and making him a
heel?
But now, knowing Brock is back,you couldn't have him be a heel
.
He has to be the face you gotyou.
Yeah, he has to be Superman togo against Brock.
And that makes more sense as astory because if they would have

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continued on and knowing Brockwould come back, fuck no.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
So that's the thing.
If John Cena would have juststayed the John Cena that he
needs the whole time, withoutthis heel turn shit, I'd be
singing a different way.
I'd probably get tired of hisshit.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
This Disket Lariat is about to be a motherfucking
boiler room brawl in a second Ifyou keep this shit, the fucking
wrong.
If you keep this shit the fuck,there is a hot water heater
right.
We can get this shit crackingbro.
We can get this shit crackingbro we can get this shit
cracking, bro.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I would have preferred this a baby face.
Cena, run from start to finish.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
So you're about to tell me the heel turn meant
nothing?

Speaker 2 (09:54):
In hindsight.
Yes, it meant absolutelynothing when it first happened.
It was a surprise, it was dopeand they had everything that was
needed to make it work.
And then, immediatelyafterwards now once again, this
is talking in hindsight, nowthat we have the clarity of

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everything immediatelyafterwards, they started fucking
it up.
They started fucking it upbecause there was no dewane john
Johnson.
Let me put it this way he'sputting out his drink.
That nigga's serious when itcomes to the way that they
should have did this.
Look at Trick Williams, right,trick and A, trick and A.

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He is, for all intents andpurposes, everyone loves Trick.
Whooped that Trick, all of that, right.
You know how they helped putheat behind Trick.
They put him with top dollar AJFrancis in that team and then
that's on TNA and then over herethey got him with the other

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Dreadhead.
That's there.
For some reason, his namecontinuously escapes me.
The one from TNA to my NXT, nxt,no, no not that one, I can't
think of him either, butnonetheless they put him with
the bad guys Bad guys who areestablished bad guys, to let you

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know.
Yes, yes, he is a bad guy.
If we would have had from thestart till now, if the rock was
showing up, he didn't have to bethere every time.
If he just showed up every oncein a while or was there at
certain points, when he wouldcome out with john cena, the
booze would have been unbearable, because the rock is the final

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boss and he's the bad guy.
He's not all right.
But instead john cena comes outhere and fake as hell the every
time when they was having, whenCody and John Cena was having
their spats.
It just made John Cena looklike a whiny baby just going off

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of stupid shit.
So it was fake from thebeginning.
And then with the Randy Ortonpiece, it was a little bit
interesting, but that's onlybecause it's Randy Orton, it was
still.
They was trying too hard.
I will say with CM Punk it atfirst felt a little bit more

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real, this heel turn, but as itwent on it got campy.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
I'ma let y'all know this Swag is speaking his
frustrations today, my niggaFail.
Like his frustrations.
Today, my nigga Fam.
Like his frustrations arecoming the fuck out.
I would have.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
If we was going to do this heel turn, they should
have done it right, otherwisenot done it at all.
I mean, he's not wrong, but Idon't see how this man sees this
heel turn as the greatest heelturn of all time.
Hey look.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Hey look, I said that because the swerve was crazy.
Bro, you can't and we're notabout to dilute into that too
much, because we're supposed tobe talking about this damn car.
We got a whole car to go overStory.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Look, you tried to.
I said that shit.
Or Hulk Hogan's heel turn.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Now which Hogan heel turn we're talking about the
original one, the new NWO one,yes.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
That was so much better.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Come on, my nigga, the leg drop, that's it.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Anyway, we're not about to keep this going In the
comment section.
We're here for SummerSlam.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
We're here for SummerSlam.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Put it in the comment section, let's talk about
SummerSlam damn it which one wasthe better.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Let's talk about SummerSlam damn it, Anyway.
Let's talk about this car.
So we brought up the fact thatBrock Lesnar has showed the fuck
up Okay.
We also need to talk about SethRollins with the rule of a
century, Okay.
But before we get into thosebig major things, let's go over

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night one and what we thoughtabout each match for night one.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Here's a weird story.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
So you got Roman Reigns, jey Uso against Braun
Breaker the Brawns.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
The Braun Brawns, braun Brawn.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Which I will say I am quite surprised that that was
very early on the card.
But I will say my predictionwas wrong.
I thought the bronze would winthat because I felt like they
needed that.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Same actually, however.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
I thought that would win, not Tron's bot, Jay and
Roman, Because of how muchthey've just been tearing Roman
and Jay apart the last few weeks.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
They've been beating the hell out of them so because
of that piece, as they say inthe great book of booking, of
course, and you're not wrong.
Now I will say, though, thatthey lost.
I always describe it like theylost, like Cesaro, where they

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lost but they still won in theend because they didn't look bad
.
So it's like they did not dogwalk, destroy them, but I was
surprised that Bron Bron lost.
Listen, let me go on record andsay match-wise, I still think

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night one was better than nighttwo.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
You know what?
Yeah, mega Powers, handshake,mega powers, handshake, mega
powers, handshake.
I mean, the only thing so atnight two that was really crazy
was the tlc.
Let's keep it.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Let's keep it a buck yeah, no, you're not listen,
we're still there on that yeah,I said that was me.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
I said that was probably match of the year.
The TLC, yeah, so far, but notreally.
No, it did deliver, but it didnot deliver.
What was the WrestleMania after?
Like after WrestleMania laddermatch, like that was a better
match.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Listen, the random TLC that they had on SmackDown.
Yeah oh, the TLC that shouldhave been on the pay-per-view.
Yeah yeah, fam, You're not thatthat much I agree.
However, I will say SmackDown'stag team division is absolutely
flawless.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Oh, absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Raw is straight cheese, absolutely flawless Like
who At this point, because ofthe way that it is, because raw
is indeed full cheeks, I feelthat that Spike drink is really
hitting his motherfucker Boy.
He is being spicy right now,bro Listen, I can't help the

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passion that I feel about thisparticular pay-per-view.
This motherfucker is spicy it'sa thing, but nah, definitely
they probably need to get thewrong tag on.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
We kind of need to go back to that match, though we
kind of got off the rails againwith the bronze and the oose.
Technically it's the oose andthe oos.
Technically it's the oos.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
I mean there's not.
I mean I will say it was a goodthough.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
It was a surprise, it was a start, it was probably
the best thing that they couldhave done to start it off,
because it did kind of hype usup a little bit, yeah, and I
love, I fucking love how Brauncame out with the fucking shoes
on his neck.
Bro, the Shula Fala.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
The Shula Fala, did somebody say?

Speaker 2 (17:50):
that.
That's what he.
That's what he's called.
Oh my God, it is his Shula Fala.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
I'm actually.
I'm actually for that.
If people start coming to thearena with J's on they neck, bro
, bro, could you imagine that?
Could you imagine people justcoming to the ring just with J's
around their neck?

Speaker 2 (18:13):
I love you, bro.
Listen, it's because Now wehave to look out for it on
Monday Bro.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
I would do it, I would still fucking do it.
We only hope that Monday can bewide.
I would do it, I would stillfucking do it.
We only hope that Monday can bewild oh yeah, because this has
to be like a mania after the Raw, after mania type shit, because
they have classified SummerSlamas a mania almost with the two
nights.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I mean it always has been and one of the problems
that has been going on, andwe'll get back to the actual
card, because it's somethingI've been wanting to talk about.
We've just so much has beenhappening we haven't got a
chance to, but I feel as if theshow after the pay-per-views,

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specifically this year, have notbeen living up to what the show
after a pay-per-view should be,and that's across the board.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Are you talking about like so the show after the
pay-per-view?

Speaker 2 (19:11):
So, for example, I'm not even going to bring them up,
I'm going to say WrestleMania.
The night at the Raw afterWrestleMania was dull, like it
wasn't big, and usually the Rawafter a pay-per-view any
pay-per-view is fire-fired.

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I would say, out of this wholeyear, the Raw that came after
Evolution, that one was fire interms.
The matches were good but itdid not really set up anything
great.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Okay, I can get behind that.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
And I said I wasn't going to, but then but I have to
because they need to be heldaccountable.
Aew after their WrestleManiathat they had.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
I need to do like a segment where it's just like and
AEW slander.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Listen, listen, I will say it.
I said it once and I'll say itagain I don't hate AEW.
I'm not an AEW hater.
I want them to do good.
It's just that they're not, andso I have to talk about and all
right, trickle, you say this,but think about it.

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They had that big pay-per-view.
You know spike beds, deathmatches, eating, eating out each
other's cooters that happened.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hey look
, hey look, hey look, hey look,hey look.
Hold up now, Hold up, Hold up.
We can talk a lot about AEW,but you was not about to talk
about Toni Storm, my nigga.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
You was not about to do that, but hear me and there's
nothing wrong with Toni Stormas a matter of fact, she's
perfectly fine because she didwhat she needed to do.
But when you look at the nextDynamite after that pay-per-view
, what did it do?
Nothing, nothing.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Tony Storm is fine.
Tony Storm delivers thepromotion, doesn't yes,
absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
But AEW is not the only one who's on fire for it,
because that's been this wholeyear, you would think.
And a lot of people's talk shitabout it and I'm gonna get off
of here in a minute, but it'slike everyone was talking about
how they had they sold out.
Well, they didn't sell out, butthey had this big ass crowd 20
something thousand people andthen their next show that they

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have barely cracks, 1 500 peoplein the, in the, in the venue
type thing oh, the ballroom yeah, and it's like optic wise.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
That's such a bad look but I feel like that's
always been the thing for themis they always do have a bad
look.
You're right.
I mean just the ballroom setups.
They've been doing that becausethey want to be.
It's like, here's the weirdthing about Tony Khan and with
how he presents AEW, he wants itto be New Japan, but with ECW

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swagger, because ECW was knownfor the ballrooms it don't.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
ECW swagger, because ECW was known for the ballrooms.
It don't.
It don't work, it don't.
And then on top of that theyhave the ballroom and it's like
they didn't progress reallyanything.
They got forbidden door comingup.
And it's like they didn't plantseeds.
They, you know, they didn'ttruly plant seeds.
They just kind of sort of likeoh, we're gonna throw some seeds
out and a little small seeds,hopefully people can catch them,

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type thing.
Like they didn't push for,because usually after a big show
you that's like the reset andso it's like you gotta plant
shit immediately to hook us inand then give us the reasons
like all right, well, if thatwas the season finale, what is
this new pilot episode y'allgonna give us?
And they didn't give usanything.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Hey, look, you know what, just like in anime and
everything else, sometimes it'sa slow burn.
But to get back to this matchFiller wrestling, a filler
episode.
Hey, sometimes WWE be doingthat shit.
No, they be doing fillerepisodes because even back in
the Attitude Era, Huh.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Dive Bar Wrestling.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
The Dive Bar Wrestling.
Dive Bar Wrestling.
Now that's AEW.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yes, yes, no, what I'm talking about remember back
in the day, in Attitude Era,there'd be some filler episodes,
because it'd be something thathappened that you'd be like all
right, next week you should behaving something about it, and
they'll don't do it and it'lljust go on to some other things.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
But that's just but usually those happen very in
between episodes, not rightafter a WrestleMania.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah and so, but overall, what
did you guys think about Braunand the bronze versus the Oos
Solid match?

Speaker 2 (24:08):
It was a solid match and it kind of honestly.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
I would say it kind of set the tone for the rest of
the night.
So what's your Boiler Room Heatrating?
Out of a five-star rating, it'sthe Boiler Room Heat rating.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
How hot was the match .
I mean Roman Reigns did hitthat high-ass jump, Almost
over-jumped the boy.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
He takered himself.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Bro, I love Taker.
He takered himself.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
I feel like Roman Reigns is trying to overdo a
taker.
Honestly, he was like, alright,I know a taker used to hit this
shit.
Let me hit this shit.
Honestly, I'd have to give it athree, though Three yeah, I
would agree.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Three the 3.5,.
It would have been a 3.5 ifthey would have hit the 1D and
finished it with the 1D.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
I think that should have been the finish.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, the 1D should have been the finish, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
If they would have hit that finish like that, that
would have been nice, yeah, likeif Bron would have jumped.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Learn how to jump.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, Bron need to know how to jump, Bro he's.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
He's saying back that man.
He almost saying back meanRoman did.
He said he said.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
He says you the motherfucking tribal chief, show
me, show me if you can pick myass up.
But overall I think we can allsay a three, a three.
If anything, three solid CoolWe'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Let's go with that 3.5.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Are we going forward?
Are we going in order?

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah just go on.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
It's not in order, well, um.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
No, it's close enough .
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because thatmatch is at the end.
Actually, I think that is theactual order.
Yeah, what's next?

Speaker 3 (25:57):
We'll do.
How about the Women's Tag TeamChampionship?

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yeah, that was pretty much.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's next?
Um, I, I, I.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I am surprised.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I actually got that prediction wrong again.
Night one prediction wasterrible.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Oh, yeah, we were off .
Yo, we was off bro.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
We was off, we was way off.
Because, it seemed like a verypredictable show, but it wasn't
apparently no, they hit us withthe swerves.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
I always said that I would love for Charlotte and
them to win Same but like.
I feel like it ain't time forthem to win, but apparently it
is time for them to win.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Apparently they getting over it.
That's why you know what I'msaying and I it was.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
I mean, I will admit it was a bit campy, it's a three
, but it was straight.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
I love Alexa's DDT.
Oh listen, I love her versusSister Abigail.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Listen that.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Wow, yeah, Boy, she put that the first time I saw
her do it, the Royal Rumble.
She did it outside, coming tothe ring yes.
Oh, beautiful.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
I feel like the first time you actually seen her do
it as an adaptation of it, itwas great, it was great.
But overall in this match Iwould have to actually seen her
do it like as an adaptation ofit, like it was like great, it
was great.
But overall in this match Iwould have to get, if I were to
say, an mvp of this is obviouslycharlotte.
Charlotte was definitely mvp,but I also got to give it to um
roxanne.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Roxanne was definitely showing out in that
match listen, roxanne, because,because it took it a minute for
me to really the fuck youlaughing at what you feeling on
him.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Your love of Roxanne.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
I love.
I'm just saying but no, butthat was legit.
She was out of Raquel.
She wasn't really Raquel wasn'treally doing shit, though,
which is kind of you got to giveit like it was Charlotte and
Roxanne.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
They really doing shit, though, which is kind of
crazy.
You got to give it like withCharlotte and Roxanne.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
They did carry the mat.
That's what I'm saying.
That wasn't.
That's.
That's not me praising, because, yes, she bad as fuck, but it's
like, at the same time, for herbeing so tiny and in a ring
full of almost giants outside ofAlexa, because they're almost
the same height, I think, yeah,yeah, but like she's holding her
, she's holding her weight.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Last I checked, she's 4'11".
I wrote about it.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Dog dog emoji.
Let me, I still gotta do that.
I was trying to actually editthat.
When I was on the plane goingto Utah I was trying to get the
that.
When I was on a plane going toUtah, I was trying to get the
clip that you wanted me to getof Shayna choking out, but I

(28:31):
couldn't record it on my phonebecause the only way I could
record it was on Peacock, andPeacock restricts screen
recording.
Ah, okay, so that's the onlyway I could get it, so I had to
do it another way, but it willhappen Anyway, oh God, yes, that
match Three.
What would y'all rate it in theboiler Three?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, no, it was a solid three Once again.
A solid, solid match with anunexpected W by the not best
friends.
I love this whole thing, withthem saying are we going to use
the F?
Them says like are we gonna usethe f word mbf?
And that's the team, and then,of course, at the very at the at

(29:11):
the post show, like the crowdgot them to hug it out.
Yes, which is great.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
I truly felt like the way they would have lost the
belts was that whole the, thebreaking of the ascension of the
Judgment Day.
Like Liv come back and it'slike Raquel, you've been teaming
up with her, she's like goingon her own now.
That's what I thought was goingto happen and that's how they
lost the belt.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Now you, you bringing that up, that is, I almost feel
, as if that that was the themeof this pay-per-view, because
that this match and the matchbefore, for all intents and
purposes, clean W's very cleanW's, which I mean obviously

(29:58):
going against the bronze.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
I mean Roman Roman getting a pin and shit, like
that's one thing, but the thingthat really killed it for me was
, bro, these clean wins,especially over the bronze.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Wait, I remember what killed me during that match was
the breast countout.
Yeah, gave him like four and ahalf minutes outside the ring.
Yeah, he started to count that.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah, I'm like bro, where is the count?

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, yeah, where is the count he out here on that
one.

Speak (30:31):
M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-S-I-P-P-I .

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Two.

Speak (30:37):
M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-S-I-P-P-I Yo ass, dead ass.
And it was just like yo, it waspissing me off because it's
like ref.
And then he'll be like and thenall of a sudden everybody's in
the ring and it's like ref,where's the five count?
And even at least in AEW, theyhave a rule where obviously, if
the tag teams are in the ring, Ithink they have a 20 count, Is

(30:59):
it?
They do establish just like a10 or a 20 count or something
like that in the ring beforethey have to go to their corner.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Oh, okay, because they purposely do that.
If it's a 10 count, that makessense.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Yeah, they purposely do that because they know most
of their spots are.
We should be doing crazy shitwith both teams or in the ring.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Now I can also say which I have to give AEW's
announcers credit for.
This is the fact that,especially if it's a very
important match kind of thing,the announcers do a very good
job of saying the fact that thereferee is using very tough
discretion considering the factthat how important this match is

(31:41):
.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah, they do be saving it.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
They do be saving it, yeah'll be saving it, yeah, so
it's like at least they besaying that kind of shit is like
because, like you know, we wantto defend a runner, so the
referee is using discretionduring this match, when they be
out there hooting and holleringand just brought back up here.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
All right, okay, I just want to let you know, save
your arm, um, but no, like it'scrazy how there are a lot of
clean wins so far, especiallywith the next match, if I think
it is what I think it is, was itnot Tiffy versus Jade?

Speaker 2 (32:17):
yeah clean, fucking win that the most.
That one damn.
We're really saying that.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Can we even talk about what the information that
we know?
We got a whole we'll, we'llyeah that's what.
I'm saying With the information, because we have insider
information but we can'ttechnically talk about it.
But Can't talk about it yet.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, butwe'll touch on it.

(32:46):
We'll touch on the fact thatour prediction was supposed to
happen but it somehow didn't.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
But instead we got this super duper, squeaky clean
win that I am very curious tosee where they're going to go.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
I was honestly thinking that Rip Baker was
going to show up there.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
That's what I said in the pod.
I said that in the pod.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
I thought something would happen.
But hey man, when you look athow they've been billing her
Only time, when you look at howthey've been billing her right
Anytime that she's lost a match,it was because of Tom.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Fulmer Some shenanigans.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Some Tom Ful of some shenanigans, some kind of
shenanigans, some kind ofoutside interference?

Speaker 1 (33:31):
this is the first time that we watched her take an
ll like I'm talking clean mything that really killed me,
though, was like the setup tothe, the jaded up top, it was
the most assistant.
It was like wait, tiffany waslike coming up.

(33:51):
It's like okay, let me help you, hit real quick.
I know I'm gonna help you toput you, put me in your fantasy,
and I was like listen, that's adud right there.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Me and my uh, my, uh, my roommate, roommate Ray Zeon,
we were who was they wrestling?
I told him about it and he'sall like wait what?
And then I physically got upand I went to him and I
demonstrated.
He's all like that doesn't makeany fucking sense, exactly.
And then I showed it to him andhe's like that doesn't make any

(34:23):
fucking sense.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
The thing was is they wanted to mainly use it as a
transition to reverse, and thenyou get the prettiest moonsault
ever, which it is, because youknow what time it is it's tippy
time.
It's tippy time, bitch.
I was hyping shit.
My wife got mad because I waslike, yes, funky Tiffany one.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Yes, yes, I'm mad at me.
Yeah, yes, funky 1051.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yes, yes, yeah, no.
You yell louder with bra.
Your dick was hard as fuck forthat shit, bro.
That man damn near ejaculated.
Bro, that was crazy, thatmotherfucker ejaculated.
Remember the bra guy?
That would have been you.
Yes, that motherfucker bro,that motherfucker.

(35:07):
I got the.
That would have been you.
Yes, that motherfucker bro,that motherfucker goodness,
listen, fam, I don't overall forthe match, though, tiffy and
Jay, what y'all think, whatwould y'all give it as a hot, as
the, as the boiler room heat,what y'all, what y'all rate it
at?

Speaker 2 (35:23):
I have to get.
I give it a 2.5.
Damn.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah, actually I was going to say the same.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Damn, that's a, that's I kind of angle cap.
Might even give it a one.
Explain yourself, because, man,it was just like it really
fucked over Jade.
The outcome of the match iswhat really fucked it over for
me, because jade has been so,she's been kept strong so long

(35:54):
and then now, because of thisloss, you could look at her when
she was outside the ring.
It's just like.
So now what?
Like uh, that momentum.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Gone.
I ain't gonna lie, I'minterested to see where this is
going to go, because it's likeshe loses and like that was all
she had holding to claim.
So it's like I swear to God, ifshe comes out there on some
Rhea Ripley shit and try andforce her way back into the
title picture for saying likenah, nah, nah.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
I need to have and then two.
I also didn't like how thematch was seven minutes long.
It was not Like as much as theykeep trying to build Jade up.
She's not producing barnburners yet, man, but she is
improving she is.
But this was the time to tothrow a barn burner and you give

(36:47):
us a seven minute, like it wasmy question was why make her
clean the ring if it's all I wasgonna have?
but here's the thing with wwetoo.
You know, they, they and thisis a very big bench tradition.
I guess it may have sticked.
We just going to be like theday of hey, we're just going to

(37:09):
flip shit and actually Tiffany'sgoing over, but see, well.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
so I think for one, they should have waited for this
match, I feel.
Because now that, because whenyou look at who won the King of
the Ring, right, it was her andit was Cody Rhodes, Normally.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Cody won his match, by the way.
I just want to put that outthere.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
He put his cash in on purpose.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Okay His cash in was worth it.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Usually you would get some kind of boost with the
king of the ring.
Listen, she came out there onlyone time and addressed the fact
that she was the queen of thering Once.
I mean, when did Cody do it?
We're not talking about CodyExactly, though.
He didn't really, but that'snot the point, Cause he's

(38:07):
already the quarter.
I mean, it kind of is the point, but like specifically for this
one right here, this nigga isfailing right now, Go ahead bro,
but I mean cause it goes handin hand.
But specifically for her, likeshe could have leaned a little
more into this whole Queen ofthe Rain thing or something.
Remember how Nia did it, howhard she leaned into like I'm

(38:31):
the queen.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Because Nia bad as fuck though.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
God, the queen of Staten Island.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Aww, what that?
What was her name?
Goddamn uh, selena Vega.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Anything.
King Bush, that, what was hername?

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Goddamn Selena Vega.
Selena Vega, anything King, butshe didn't win the match.
She was just queen by way ofBooker T, but even then she
betrayed Trey.
Yes, which is true, but evenwith that she did not do
anything.
It's almost's almost as if,like the queen of the ring thing
was just a quick way to get herin a title match, apparently

(39:12):
for her to lose.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Saudi said we like her, she must go over and queen
of the ring Because you know,saudi, they do be like saying,
hey, we want these wrestlers, wewant these outcomes.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
We still waiting for Yokozuna's match bro.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Technically happened Up there with Hogan.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Or no comment.
Yeah, so what was the nextmatch?

Speaker 3 (39:44):
That's a good transition.
Randy Orton and Jelly Roll.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Man.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Drew McIntyre and Logan Paul.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Unfortunately, this to me was supposed to be the
bathroom break match, but itturned out to be like you know
how, when you walk in a way it'slike okay, hold on, this might
be cooking a little bit, hold on, you know.
The only reason why is becauseonce you saw the first bump that

(40:16):
jelly roll took, you're likewait, is it actually taking
bumps?

Speaker 2 (40:20):
oh, he's, he took real bumps.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
He took bumpity bumps , uh, that that would be more of
a wreck.
Actually, the bump that he tookon that table was a wreck.
Yeah, yeah, that was a wreck.
Yes, I was actually noticingthat, like, because even though
we don't know if he produced it,but I can't remember his actual
, real name Abyss Joseph Park,joseph Park.

(40:47):
Yeah, we both believe that hemight have produced the match,
either one, because he's given.
I mean, he had the Cho Slamwhen he was Abyss and he had the
Black Hole Slam and hetechnically did both of them.
It was kind of more of a bossman slam, not a black hole,
because black hole he holds yourass up.

(41:09):
There is a difference, but itwas.
But if you look at how Abyssdid it, a lot of times he would
hold you up and then boom.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
So what?
I've come to understand thereal difference between the
black hole slam and the big bossman slam, as some kind of look
at it.
As is the fact, like there,when big boss man does it, it's
like compared to abyss.
Abyss, like he drops reallyhard with it, he controls it and
he controls it.

(41:39):
That's the other.
Yeah, he does control, he hasfull control over it and like he
has, like there's like a peakpoint where he hits the drop
with it kind of thing.
It's like it's fucking, it'squick.
Yeah, that's where Bossman his.
There was a bit more drag to it.

(42:00):
Yeah, and like it was more.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Almost deep six, almost more of a deep six.
Yeah, it more almost deep six,almost more of like a deep.
Yeah, it's almost deep six.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, yeah that as well, cause like where Abyss,
you know, and I think myfavorite ones for Abyss is
whenever he like just grab no,run nothing.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Oh yeah, just just just no, anytime he does put
somebody on, like some tax orsomething like that, it's always
like it's interesting how hegets the spin going and it's
like if somebody was running andjust no and it just slams you.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
So I love how he always has control over it, that
element of control over hisblack hole actually man just
watching a montage of that onYouTube just over his black hole
.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Actually, man just watching a montage of that on
YouTube just all his black holeslams Bam For a whole hour.
It's just that I did take thatfor like a day.
I did watch that for.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Huh, it was like 20 years ago.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Absolutely All equally great, but All equally
great.
This match was fairly decent.
Obviously, this match wasfairly decent, obviously, logan
Paul.
He did what he was supposed todo.
I don't give a fuck what y'allsay.
Y'all can hate me, but that boyknow how to fucking wrestle bro
.
I don't know why people aregiving him way too long to do
some of those spots it's causeof Jelly Roll, though he was too

(43:18):
obvious with the the moment ofknowing like hey and and even
certain kicks and stuff likethat.
But again back to the LoganPaul.
We understand he has done someshitty things as a person, but
since a lot of people like toseparate the art from the artist
, this is an example the artthat that man does in the ring.

(43:39):
You cannot deny that Outside ofthe ring probably not going to
give a fuck, but when he's inthat ring and he's under them
lights for a moment, you have myattention.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
I did think his match with Roman was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
The match with Cena, the match with AJ, the match
with Ricochet, the match, anyfucking match was good.
Maybe not the first one.
The first one was like hold up,but obviously that was his
first one, so he can't reallyget mad at him.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yeah, logan Paul can't be denied, with his
ability in the ring, can't be.
And for a person of JellyRoll's status and with the I
don't know how much time he hadto train, but even then, to be
someone who was not an athletewhatsoever to lose 230 pounds,

(44:31):
yeah, to and be.
What was this?
He was.
This is the first time he'sbeen under 300 pounds since
middle school, so he was, forall intents and purposes, a, a
forever big man.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Hey look, I wasn't even that big in middle school.
I was like 275, like 250.
So it's like.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
It's impressive for him to have, as they call him,
an outsider or a celebrity, tohave taken the, to take the
beating that he got.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
I didn't know he was a WCW wrestler.
Wow, you say he was an outsider.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Anyway, to take the beating that he took and then
for him to perform as he did atthe level he did.
I mean, I have to get to himNow.
It's funny because a lot ofpeople are all like man.
So you're telling me that LAKnight and so-and-so and
so-and-so had to sit out forthis match.
I'm like, come on guys, come onguys.

(45:29):
As a LA Knight fan, sure I getit.
However, it's not his timeanyway.
It's not LA's night time rightnow.
It's not Carmelo Hayes.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
I don't think they would ever— I don't know if
they're going to really pull thetrigger on LA Knight, and
that's another conversation foranother day.
I don't think at this point intime they're probably going to
pull the trigger and I don'tknow how much longer he has.
He's like 39 or some shit now.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
I don't know how old he is.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
He's like 39.
I feel as if Like, 38, 37, someshit like.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
With the way that night two ends it's.
At this point we can startbuilding your LA Knights, your
Carmelo Hayes' kind of thing,because the top spot is now
clearly outside of John Cena'shand, john Cena's been removed

(46:23):
from the title picture and nowwe just have Cody back and John
Cena has a whole beast inCarnegie's guy deal with you.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
just, you had to roll that shit in, didn't you?
Oh, it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Hey, you should be happy because now Carmelo Hayes
can step up, because now itmakes sense for him to be in the
title picture Put the fries inthe bag, bro.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Bro, his dick is so hard, like okay.
So y'all the shit y'all wastalking about with me and
fucking Monet and my belt that'shim and Brock right now my
fault.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
You have a Monet who I love a lot.
Get the fuck.
No Swag bag.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
No, For anybody that don't know, I have a CEO belt
because I competed in CEO, afighting tournament, and this
motherfucker just thinks I haveMonet gear.
Anyway, let's not, let's not.
Let's not get on that.
Let's talk about the nextfucking match.
What was the next?

Speaker 2 (47:22):
match.
Yeah, you definitely.
The next match is Sammy Z andKarrion.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Kross, the next fucking match.
What was the?

Speaker 2 (47:25):
next match.
Yeah you definitely.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
The next match.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
The Sammy Z carrying her off.
That was a one.
This was a throwaway match.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
That was a one.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
This was the bathroom break.
That truly was the bathroombreak.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
But it was a one.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
It was a one, but it's like I feel as if, like we
try so hard to want KarrionKross to do something, or to
want Karrion Kross, and at thispoint it's like for what I mean.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
You're not wrong, though.
It's only because, like, I wasreally hoping that, yes, he's
getting over it, yes, theaudience is like asking for him.
But then, all of a sudden,you're just're just like giving
us a storyline where, OK, I saidthe outcome of making Sammy do
whatever, OK, where would we gowith this?
I'm kind of curious, when wouldyou go with it.

(48:14):
But then, as Swag brought it tomy attention, he says, well, it
would make no sense because himgoing a heel, like what would
that do for him when apparentlythey're trying to put him in the
title picture?
But heel, like what would thatdo for him when apparently
they're trying to put him in thetitle picture?

Speaker 2 (48:29):
But I'm like I don't feel like they would ever put
the belt on Sami Listen, onceupon a time, when Sami Zayn
first came from NXT NXT, a lotof people looked at Sami Zayn as
the next John Cena because hewas such a white meat baby face
good guy.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
I mean he white as hell.
You ain't right, that boy ain'tgot no tan in his skin.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
No, tan, and it's funny you saying that Like
something that he has not donein a long time.
Remember when he used to jumpthrough the fucking ropes and
hit that fucking?

Speaker 1 (48:59):
tornado.
A lot of the things he don't doanymore because he's getting
older.
Yeah, he's getting older, bro.
Another thing you can even sayis Roman, don't even do drive-by
.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Oh, that's right, he didn't used to do that he don't
do drive-by no more.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Those are the two things on.
Like I remember in the gamesthat was specifically their
moves and I remember themconnected to it and then you
don't see both doing it anymoreand I felt like the drive-by was
a really safe move.
I mean it was cool.
You know what I'm saying.
Maybe he just got tired ofhitting his back on April the
hardest part of the ring, by theway.
By the way, hardest part of thering.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
But honestly, like this match, I'm glad we got this
last one and done, done I thinkKarrion's on.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Apparently from the contract, that's the word From
the contract coming up.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
The problem is where does he go?

Speaker 1 (50:02):
That part.
I mean he apparently no GCWw.
I think he would go to gcw.
He would pair perfectly finewith gcw's roster possible the
grant.
I don't know gcw that wellspeaking of which, gcw actually
had a lot of wwe wrestlers intheir card before uh summer slam
, so natalia had a match, notfar like a fucking mainstay over

(50:23):
there right now.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Yeah, because she's had like a couple of matches
over there.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Yeah, well, because it's the only promotion that's
going to give her a fuckingmatch, which is weird Because
it's not like Natalya's, unlessshe's like secretly been let go.
No, because they put the WWElogo next to every wrestler from
WWE.
So Natalya went against NikkiSlamovich from TNA, which I'm
surprised.
They don't put the TNA logonext to their wrestlers, but

(50:49):
they put Masha.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Slamovich, masha Slamovich, right right, I don't
like Nikki, my bad.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Masha Slamovich and Ivar and Eric the Raiders.
They both had single matchesthere too Interesting.
And one more person from WWEhad a match from over there and
I can't remember his name either, but I saw that card and the
card started at 1pm yesterday soit was way before SummerSlam.

(51:16):
Yeah, and I saw that like onFacebook I was scrolling.
This is a card, but it wastheir Bloodsport, so there was
no ring.
Oh yeah, so I think they were.
That's like their mma stylematches, yeah yeah, I've heard
about that whole okay but mything is it's natalia.
How did that go?
Because no offense to natalia.

(51:36):
Talia's a wrestler andslamovich, that makes sense but
not natalia, I mean, you know,also try to flip your mic to
point up at you.
Oh, was it being crazy?
Yeah, just flip it up, so thatway it actually catches your
audio going up it was looking up.
It was just kind of going down.
You're good, okay, there we go.

(51:57):
Yeah, but it's just interestingyeah, I didn't know.
Now I'm gonna have to look thatshit well, gcw, you can only
watch through a subscription andI did have a subscription for
internet wrestling, like allindie wrestling.
It's a $10 subscription for amonth and you get all indie

(52:17):
wrestling like any other indie.
It's indie TV, got it, causethat's how you can see H2O
wrestling.
There's a couple otherpromotions, but I think gcw's on
that.
I'm not 100 sure, I checked,but uh, because I know I wanted
to watch one of their deathmatchwrestlers.
Um, she, I don't know, she'sstill champion right now, but

(52:39):
she's fucking hot commodity.
Um, anyway, back to this card.
Yeah, that match was a one forme, as we're talking about the
Sami Zayn and Karrion Kross.
It's a one for me because itwas just kind of like what is
this for?

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Like a half star Damn .

Speaker 1 (53:00):
I mean, it wasn't that great of a match.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
All day.
You know this Still watch, butthat was just a throwaway match.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
It really was the equivalent of a Divas match back
in the day.
Just go to the bathroom, damn.
Go to the bathroom.
Go to the bathroom Back in theday.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
I mean you could have .
It's just because the fact likethere was like oh, that was
actually the second bit of bloodthat happened in this
pay-per-view, by the way, causeKarrion Kross busted his nose a
little bit oh, I mean yeah therewas a little bit of blood there
, but like, not, like, notkeeping.

(53:45):
The only reason why I keptcounting that is because of an
earlier conversation we hadtalking about AEW and their oh,
their pools of blood, theirpools of blood and overuse of
Deathmatches, deathmatch-typethings.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Yeah, but that is a conversation for another time.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Because, boy oh boy, there's a lot to unpack with it.
But yeah, I'd probably give it,like I mean, I'd give it a two,
mostly just because the matchin itself wrestling-wise was
fine, so it was good to watch.
And you know, there was somestory in there, not him, but so

(54:32):
but, like you know, the wholetrying to get sammy to use the
pipe and all this other stuff,and so it's like there was, oh
god that you know you're right.
Go to the next fucking match,obviously.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
What.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
That was match of the night.
Match of the fucking night thatwas a solid four.
Nah, bro, I'm going to givethat a five.
I'm giving that a five.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
I'd give it a five with the N.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
That's what I'm saying, that's what makes it a
five.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
The post-match I would give it a five with the N.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
That's what makes it five?
The post-match?
I would, I would give it, Iwould give it a four and I would
, I would give it a four and Iwould say it was, as far as
match-wise, match of thepay-per-view.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Literally, literally the entire pay-per-view.
It was the match Out of thewhole pay-per-view of this match
hit the hardest.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Yeah, Because it was a solid wrestling match.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
It was a glutton for punishment.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Bro, that boy, a masochist bro, I'm trying to
tell you he would just straightget hit in the chest.
All night I think he went up toGunther and said, bro, I need
you the fuck out of him.
Okay, like all this, just slapthe shit out of it, bro, just
give me your best hits, becauseI've been talking about you.
You're a generational wrestler.

(55:50):
You could be in any era andyou'd be good.
So I want to see how good youare and I need you to just slap
the shit out of my chest.
Big man, slap me.
And Gunther said bet in German,so I was like I'm actually
asking my wife what would be theequivalent of bet I will ask

(56:14):
her Now.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
I'm curious.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
I'll find out for you .
I'm going to ask her.
She went to bed, but otherwise.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
I'll ask her yeah, no , like there's, there was
nothing wrong with that match,Like it was good from start to
finish.
Now I will say, if I remember,what our predictions were for
that one.
We were all saying Gunther.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
I think I said Gunther yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Because and the reasons why for me it was like
the only we were saying Gunther,and it was like the only reason
why CM Punk would win isbecause of what exactly happens
after that match Nowunfortunately, man, that shit
had me crying bro.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
That was wild to me, bro, bro, that was emotional bro
for me.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
I when, when CM Punk won I was all like, oh damn,
they gave him the belt.
But then if you notice in thecrowd everyone's all like, oh
shit, he won yeah, yeah, yeah,waiting for it.

(57:33):
I honestly thought it was goingto happen at Survivor's now I
will give it to them, becausethey did the thing where, like,
you're all like, okay, they'regoing to do it.
Okay, they're going to do itnow.
Okay, they're going to do itnow.
Okay, now they're going to doit right there.

(57:54):
And then it's like huh, that'sinteresting.
So they weren't going to owntheir own, ah, so they weren't
going back phone ah, they almosthad me.
There it is.
And as soon as that happened,it's like and then he comes out

(58:16):
with the crutches.
I'm like, well, I know wherethis is going and sure as shit,
like as if he was diesel in awheelchair.
He went into the ring and hedid exactly what he knew he was
going to do from goddamn JumpStreet.

(58:37):
They strung us along.
They strung us along longenough so that we could get a
pop and make this man cry,apparently, bruh, because you
saw the emotion on Punk's face.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Man, that man had that title in years and he went
through a lot of shit to finallyget back to this moment to get
that belt.
So even Rhea Ripley said hey,yo, run that shit back, get that
man's belt back.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Exactly how I felt.
Yo run that shit back, get thatman his belt back.
No-transcript, as where me andthe rest of the fucking crowd
was all like CM Punk did win youknow, the argument I gave you

(59:41):
earlier about why I felt sonervous makes sense.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Because he came back.
Yeah, because if he did and theKnights, if Punk was in a war
game match, they would know.
We know we're going to have.
Yeah, it would have set me outvery differently, the same way
Punk did.
Two-year anniversary.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
I feel like I feel like the thing about it is for a
war game match.
It's like he just got the beltand you're gonna put him in a
match.
He's not defending it, like no,like it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
To me what happened now it kinda did make sense,
only because now we have a storyto build on to where Survivor
Series that is the match andthere's also the fact that,
because you cannot wait, becausewe're seeing punk also has this
bit now, unless they're goingto do something at a, uh, clash

(01:00:34):
at the castle, because clash inparis, paris, there we go,
because gunther's gotta get hislick back.
Yeah, he's got his rematchclause, because every once in a
while the rematch clauseactually matters, unless you're
Jey Uso and you have to just gointo King of the Ring and fail

(01:00:55):
and never get your rematch inFour letters one word fail or
four letters one word lose.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
This is another wordings match with Old
Bloodline versus the new factionof Rollins and LeBron.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
We're waiting on that fourth member.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
You know you're saying that because Roman Reigns
is also here to get his lickback.
And now that Seth get his lickback, and now that Seth Rollins
is back.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Can we talk about real quick, even though the
bronze are a tag team, I feellike a tag team that might mesh
well with Rollins and them andthis would be, unfortunately,
the tag team that.
Okay, if shit popped off, theytaking the fall.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
DIY.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
So what adding?

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
DIY to Seth.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Rollins' group no, just if they did a War Games, I
feel like DIY would be theperfect team to fit their
aesthetic.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
So, in this hypothetical situation, if we
have Seth Rollins, what did Icall them?
I called them the goddamn ShawnMichaels.
No, no no Triple.
H, the group oh the group Okay,I called the group Seth
Rollins' future right.
So if we have the future in DIY, then are we gonna just have

(01:02:33):
full bloodline?

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
It could be that, because if we have Roman Reigns
and Jay.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Well, it would be a CM Punk thing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Yeah, with the NFTs, so it would be a CM Punk versus
Seth crew, so Seth wouldn't givehim the match at Survivor
Series, nfts.
So it would be a CM Punk versusSeth crew, so Seth wouldn't
give him the match at SurvivorSeries.
It would be a War Games matchand CM Punk would be the leader
of his team versus Seth's team.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
But then what is CM Punk's team?

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
then Probably be Jay and Roman.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
But then we'd have to address the whole when Roman
first came back and he helped upJay and he did not give hand to
a punk.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
But then I think he probably would sympathize with
him because Seth also did thatsame shit to him at Mania.
But see, there's also the factthat last the big double cross
of Mania, that that last, thebig double-cross of mania.
He might sympathize with him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Double-double-cross no, the heist of the Citroën,
but the thing is, we've alreadybeen through this with CM Punk
and Roman Reign.
Remember what was it?
Goddamn last war games.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
I understand it.
I'm just saying, like you know,they like rehashing shit a lot,
apparently, apparently.
But I'm just throwing out ahypothetical.
If there was going to beanother team, that was the favor
there's no favors now that wasthe whole favor situation yeah,
but okay, but then maybe thatcould be a favor for him, like
if I help you out now you gottado me a favor.
But I was just saying, if,hypothetically, if there was a

(01:04:03):
team that would match theaesthetic, it would only be DIY
in my mind In my.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
But then it's like but why DIY?
Like, why does DIY?
I feel like, I feel it just.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
DIY has the ruthless nature that would match the
bronze, especially with TommasoCiampa.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
NXT Tommaso Ciampa, that's what.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
I'm saying, yeah, that's NXT Tommaso Ciampa.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
That is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Yeah, that is, I know , I know.
But.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
I'm just saying and, and, and, and.
What's this fucking, what'sthis tag team partner, goddamn.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Johnny Gargano.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Yeah, gargano For.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
He could be doing the flippy shit in the match.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
But I don't, I mean visually, actually, not even
visually, like.
I mean, I see what you'retrying to put together, but no,
johnny wouldn't, Johnny wouldn't, but I feel like Tommaso would.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
And Tommaso ain't.
Tommaso hasn't, he's blowing it, he's blowing it.
He needs Beer club.
Hit Tommaso.
Ain't Tommaso hasn't.
He's broke.
He needs Beer Club.
Hit Tommaso Ciampa.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Tommaso Ciampa.
Tommaso Ciampa has not gottenback to goldie status.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
He used to hold the tag he used to hold the tag team
title, like that At leastTommaso Ciampa's, not as bad as
Mr Bang Bang Gang there, to myAEW.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Yeah, oh, you're talking about Juice, juice.
Oh my, you mean Bo Dallas.
You mean Bo Dallas.
Oh God, that was Bo Dallas.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
That was awful to see Juice come out like that
Babyface.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Juice is wild, I ain't going to lie.
Yeah, I know.
No, no, babyface juice is wild,I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
But overall that is night one Truly feel like Match
of the pay per view.
The match of the PO leagueentirely Was CM Punk and Gunther
.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Other than the bullshit bleeding.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
That was that paint shit.
That was the shit they did withJimmy.
It's cool, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
If we took night one and then brought over?

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
It was that TLC match in night one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
If we take night one and we bring that TLC match over
and then and honestly bringover the first match of night
one, that pay-per-view wouldhave been fine.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Actually I would.
I would kind of even also giveit up to Valkyria and Becky If
you'd probably put that on nightone too.
That was a good damn match.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
I mean honestly truthfully, match, specifically
match wise.
Now, as far as the moments thatend up happening on night two,
that's the only thing that savesnight two.
Yeah, what the Brock thing?
Just the moments that happen.
So, it's like where night onehad great matches.
Night two had great moments,and so, to talk about night two,

(01:07:10):
let's go ahead and get into it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Oh yeah, first no, the first match was Rhea Ripley
versus Eosh Skye and Naomi Seethe list that I got is out of
order.
Literally it's out of order.
Literally, this match was mania, just with a different black
woman.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha Ha ha, ha, ha ha, oh no.
And what's funny is the factthat, comparably speaking, they
got it right this time.
The black woman should have wonthe first time, apparently, but

(01:07:56):
apparently I'm crazy.
Apparently I'm crazy comparedto this guy, you know, trying to
make me out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
I don't know what I'm talking about, I feel like EO
the match at Mania.
I feel like EO deserved thatyeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Let me put it this way if it would have been Bianca
Belair versus Io, absolute okay, so you think Io versus Ripley
was still a no?
Io versus Ripley.
You know why I say it's still ano?
Because Ripley lost, she losther fucking match, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Here's the thing I ain't gonna lie.
I am a little Because Ripleylost.
She lost her fucking match, bro.
Here's the thing I ain't gonnalie.
I am a little.
Rhea Ripley'd out right now,listen.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
I am a little Rhea Ripley'd out Going back to that,
because how this guy tried tomake me sound like I was crazy.
All I'm saying is the fact thatRhea Ripley did not need to be
in that match because she lostboth times.
She's lost twice, okay, whetherif the second one was

(01:08:58):
considered a draw by Bianca'sstandard, she lost twice.
She did need to be in thatmatch.
You know how she got into thatmatch by bitching, crying and
moaning and then the GM beinglike you know what.
I'm tired of hearing you cryabout it.
Fuck it, you can be in thematch.
She didn't need to be in thefucking match, all right.
Now he tried to make it soundlike I was crazy, saying the

(01:09:20):
fact that, though she didn'tneed to be in the match, the
match I said the match was good.
Yes, the match was good and andit was fun to watch, but it
would have still been just finewithout Rhea Ripley and he over
here trying to make it soundlike, but I said they wanted the
star power.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
They needed Ripley for that star power in that
match.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Just like we needed the Rock for that star power for
this bullshit-ass.
John Cena, run right, you'reright, you're right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
But what I was saying for Mania, for Mania, right,
but what I was saying for Mania,for Mania, they wanted Rhea
because they wanted the starpower.
Now, for this match, rheashouldn't have been in it, and
this is why I was saying I'm alittle Rhea Ripley'd out because
it's like, bro, how are yougetting these contender matches?
For no fucking reason.
It's just like yo, I'm not afan of it.

(01:10:08):
That just like yo, I'm not afan of it.
That's why I'm like yo.
She needs to just go away for alittle bit, just chill.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
That's why she like she should have been in the last
match.
That's why she got pinnedtonight.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Yeah, she did get pinned again.
Yeah, Wait, is that technicallythe same outcome too?

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
No, Bianca took the pin.
Bianca ate that pin and sheabsolutely should not have R.
No, bianca took a pen.
No, bianca ate that pen and sheabsolutely should not have.
Rhea Ripley should have atethat pen.
But that is old news.
The new news is we all need tonow continue to proceed with
caution, because now StephanieValquier and Naomi are about to

(01:10:47):
fight in Paris.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
We'll see that soon.
But I will say, as a match, I'mgoing to give it a three.
Give it a solid three.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Yeah, yeah, solid three, solid three it did have
some good spectacles.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
I felt like overall the matches were good.
Overall the match was good.
I think a solid the matcheswere good.
Overall the match was good.
I think a solid three would begood.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Naomi Io Scott and Rhea Ripley can do no wrong in
the ring.
And that's just what it isFacts and the way that it won
for all intents and purposes,the way that it won, for all it,
for all intents and purposes,the way that it won.
It's almost as if like, okay,now that that has happened, we

(01:11:36):
actually can move on fromeverything, because now rhea
ripley should, as she should benow actually at the bottom of
the fucking barrel and she needsto work her way back up.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Valid shit, valid shit and so.
So what's that next?
That next match.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
The next we have the TLC match.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
Match of the night night two.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Absolutely yeah.
It is crazy because, like, forall intents and purposes, it
really was a spot fest it reallywas.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
It wasn't.
I love how they kept puttingthe cams on the Dudleys but
never on the Hardys.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
It wasn't a.
It was indeed a very AEW stylespot fest.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Yes, but these spots were actually worth it though.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
They were in good taste and well chosen and well
done, and not overdone at thatwhat's Johnny's wife again?

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
um, candice LeRae took the biggest spot of the
night.
I'm sorry that.
That was a raw table spot, thatraw ladder spot, and you drove
through it.
You had no safety net nothing,sweetie, you deserve a medal.
Okay, ladder spot and you drovethrough it.
You had no safety net, nothing,sweetie, you deserve a medal.
Okay, you deserve a fuckingmedal because, knowing how high

(01:12:58):
that is and you're looking, down.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
That match was actually what we stayed for our
podcast guaranteed destruction.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Yes, yes, there were a lot of spots which, by the way
, I don't know why WWE just says, yo, let's put Andrade and
Fiennes together when youliterally have the Lucha Bros
right now.
Stupid, but yeah, I don't knowwhy they did it.
I was excited for the matchbecause I was like, yeah, this
is going to be a barn burner,but I'm not excited for the

(01:13:29):
outcome that I know is going tohappen, which was the Wyatt
Sixers going to win.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
So it was kind of like, which, to me, is crazy
because of the whole SethRollins thing for me a little
bit, Because it was like we knowSeth Rollins was going.
Now I guess there may have beena little bit, it was a little
bit.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
It was because we even said on the pod we hoped
that Seth would be healthy.
But we don't expect it likefully Like we we was hoping that
his health was more importantthan this cash in, because we we
even talked about potentiallythe cash in happening, but we
were more so like he, hope he'shealthy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
And I think and now that you actually kind of broke
it down that way, I think Ithink it took that breakdown for
me to kind of understand theslight difference, because with
the seth rollins thing there wasit could happen, there was the
idea of like it could happen,but we are choosing to believe

(01:14:30):
that it won't happen Because ofhis health, because of the fact
of he looked like he gotlegitimately injured, and so
it's like that was a goodfucking sell, yeah.
It was.
But it's like, I think, if itwasn't for the fact that

(01:14:50):
everyone was harping so hard onthe fact of was it a work or was
it not a work, if that didn'texist and it was made even
further believable that hereally was hurt, to completely
take our minds off of the factthat he would interfere, I think

(01:15:11):
that's what would have trulysold the whole bit.
But because of the fact that,like it was all like it happened
and then we just kind of saw itas like it happened and then
like we're just going to behush-hush about it and just not
talk about it, as opposed ofnormally, like Liv Morgan, when
she got hurt, she got hurt andthen, after she got hurt, we

(01:15:34):
talked about it.
They talked about it more.
There was an update on it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
We never actually got an update on it, and when Paul
Heyman was I think we only gotthat small segment where they
showed it again, like with hisleg, like his leg injury.
But you are right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
But outside of when they did the replay at Saturday
Night Main Event after PaulHeyman was all like.
He's not here right now andhe's got plenty of time to cash
this in, but let's focus.
Look at Braun Breaker over here, though.
When they did that, that wasthe part that let the world be

(01:16:10):
all like come on here.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
So it's kind of like it's like you see Seth over here
, he's, if you look at a Wizardof Oz.
He was the Oz in the cornerwhere the dog pulled the sheet
to the side.
It's like, no, don't look athim.
Pay attention to the screenreal quick, woo screen.
I see.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
If they would have did a whole thing where they
like faked.
Pay attention to the screen,real quick, woo Screen, I see.
If they would have did a wholething where they like, faked
like, because, like you know how, sometimes when people get hurt
and they'll be like, they'llshow like yeah, like Seth
Rollins got his x-rays da-da-daRight, you know now if they
would have did that and thenjust not revisit it anymore
afterwards and it's just beenunderstood that Seth Rollins is
hurt First off.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
That means you have to fake x-rays.
Man Like come on, you got tofake x-rays.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Yes, Can you imagine?
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Because we got our homeboy who does you know stuff
and can you imagine he gets that.
Uh needs to be able to fake anX-ray and he has to search that
shit up.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Listen.
You go to Google, you type inyou know, broken leg X-rays.
Go to page 15 on the images,because no one's going to look
that far, and then you find thepicture.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Then you find the picture.
That's just a JPEG.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
There's a little Photoshop in here and there, and
there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
That's just a JPEG.
If somebody called that shit,the fuck out, so but back to
this.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Actually, you say in the fact someone would, if they
did google it type thing, somereally deep, deep web search
would be all like.
Actually, if you go to page 15on google images they be doing
that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
They do be doing that shit.
Listen, those deep guys arecrazy.
But I will say for that matchbar and burner as the four
corner tablener table spots, Ilike it.
The Spanish Fly fucks with it.
The DDT fucked with it.
You know, I like that SpanishFly.
That shit looked like Axiom.

(01:18:23):
His legs probably hit thatbarricade.
The way that shit looked likeit looked like he hit his legs
on the barricade, which, ooh itdid.
That Spanish Fly threw thosetables.
But the way that shit lookedlike it, shit.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Like he hit his legs on the barricade, which, ooh, it
did, it, did that spares fliesthrough those tables, that and
he but he's good at least heseemed like he was good, cause
he cause we did see him againafter that in the match.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Hey man, but they look Triple H.
Why didn't he?

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
do a trotty during this match.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
He got hit with a table spot and I think he didn't
show up for the rest of thematch.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
He was part of one of the table spots.
He did show up slightly at thevery end, but he never was able
to get back into the ring.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Yeah, no, and same thing with D'Angelo Dawkins.
After that spot he was out.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
You can see it, he was chilling Right, but that was
probably the most people I'veever seen who was not originally
part of the match going for thetype you got b-fab.
Yeah, nikki cross b-fab showedup candy.
Nikki cross showed up.

(01:19:24):
Goddamn.
Eric rowan showed.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Fucking uncle howdy the whole Wyatt family showed up
, which was cheap as fuck Likethe whole Wyatt family showed up
for this match.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
That'd be a big match the Wyatt 6 versus some kind of
a set up team with maybe allthe tag teams together.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
But then you're missing a fifth.
We've kind of already had allthe tag teams literally band
together.
Honestly, this match, all thetag teams literally band
together.
Honestly, this match was thetag teams banding together to
beat the.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Wyatts.
I mean, that was what DIY wastrying to do Originally.
It was like yo, we cannot letthe Wyatts win.
So like they were trying tomake sure that they interfered
in that match to prevent themfrom doing it.
Diy and.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
Street Profits.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
Tana Soler DIY Street Profits.
Tannis LeRae versus Wyatt Zittthe thing about it is because
there's only two women in thematch.
They're only going to be ableto interact with each other and
it's almost chaos everywhereaside from the females being a
part of a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
I mean we do have the NFTs.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
We know they're going to be in it.
We already know they're gonnabe in it.
We already know they're gonnabe in the match.
But the NFTs versus the Wyattgive me, give me your rating,
move that shit, fuck off, movethat on.
Move that on because we'vetechnically had something
similar with the Shield versusthe Wyatt's.
That was a great match.

(01:20:49):
But what do y'all believe wouldbe the rating for that tag
match?
3.5 East, I'd give it a 4.
I'm giving it a 4 just forCandice.
I was going to say just for.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Candice, you know what I'd give it that boost
because that was a gnarly ball.
Honestly, I'll bump it up to afour, yeah, like.
And also I ain't gonna say itno, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
If we talking about the match, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
I was just gonna say there was no blood in that match
.
Oh, how good it was.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
Yeah, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Yeah, how good was not AEW slander?

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
you don't need blood for every match to be good you
don't, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
AEW slander, it ain't slander.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
I just need AEW to wake up.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Okay, you're shooting yourselves in the foot but once
again more like the leg becauseof Dustin you're stabbing
yourself in the leg.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Another podcast topic , for another time.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
I don't even know what you're talking about well
we'll definitely you sound likeyou get ready to fucking lash
out like this motherfucker umwhat's this next?
Match.
I think it's theintercontinental one, right?

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
you got big time backs and Lyra Valguero.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
I'm so mad at the outcome of this match, bro, big
time back baby.
He's only acted like thisbecause, for whatever reason, he
puts Becky Lynch on such apedestal, that she does not, I
said I said I'm a Bailey man too, but I said, out of the four
horse women currently she's themost charismatic.

(01:22:46):
Because she rode on theslipstream.
That was Charlotte Flair.
She rode on the slipstream thatwas Sasha Banks and apparently
Nia Jax, because Nia Jax is thereason why she's in the position

(01:23:07):
.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
Here's the thing If you really want to put it the
way, you just put it.
If you want to put it the way,you just put it.
If you want to put it the way,you just put it.
Okay.
So she got the charismaticfeature from Sasha.
She learned how to talk.
She was able to kind of tellgood stories because of Bayley,
because Bayley has a greatunderdog story in every
situation, and now because ofthe status, she's trying to

(01:23:33):
dress with flair, with the furcoats and how she always dressed
.
She's trying to be.
If you want to really take thatcoattail shit, she takes
elements from each one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Sure, I guess you could say she takes elements
from each one of them.
But this thing that I'm talkingabout is not so much of what
she took.
It's how she got to the spotthat she's in.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
All right, she got there because she was in a lucky
situation to get punched in theface.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Yes, that is a piece of it, but she also only gets to
this place because she was withthose four horsemen of sorts I
guess you could say those fourhorse women type situation.
It's like.
It's like when you be on, whenyou're playing a game, and then

(01:24:22):
it's all like damn, this teamwon, but you got the least
amount of kills and you died themost.
That's Becky Lynch.
Okay, that's Becky.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
We not gonna continue this slander anywhere.
Let's talk about this match,and then, on top of that, this
motherfucker Becky Lynch becomes.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
And then when you go to your friend's house and
you're with a whole bunch ofpeople who don't know how to
play the game, but because yourock with those really good
people, it makes you look likeyou the shit to them.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
That's Becky.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Lynch, I want y'all to know I'm cutting this mic
right now.
I'm cutting this mic.

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
Cutting this mic Two belt back Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
yeah, Two belt back.
Yeah, I'm playing now.
Don't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
I will not accept that this man says oh, you gonna
do me like they did CM Punk,huh, Because I'm dropping pipe
bombs.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
No, no, no, no, no, no, Because actually they said
they weren't going to cut hismind off.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Meet up with the Kendo stick going into the match
though.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Yes, outside of the fact that you know, screw Becky,
the match was lit.
The match was lit.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
Lyra fought her ass off if y'all see swag in the
next episode.
Y'all know why.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
I'll be fine.
Y'all I'll be fine, but Lyrawas fighting for her life in
this match.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
I will give her that that was impressive.
Yo, getting your hands zip-tiedand doing all those things.
I was like you know what.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
The moonsault.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Yes, as much as I don't like her character, her
wrestling capability istop-notch.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Fam, not necessarily comparing full-on apples to
apples, but lyra valkyria iskind of sort of in a bret hart
position where now, now what I'mno cook, go ahead, cook, go
ahead, cook, go ahead, cook.
Bret hart has never been agreat promo and I ain't gonna
like, I'm not gonna try and gasher up or anything.

(01:26:29):
Lyra's promo skills arelackluster at best as fuck no,
as fuck.
I can't say as fuck but meh forsure.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
How about this with the women that she's in the ring
with?
Unfortunately, because she'sstill a little green compared to
those two, she's put insituations where Becky is the
kind of person who can make youfluster in a promo because she
did it to bailey and bailey cancut a good promo too.
So it's like, unfortunately,because she's newer compared to

(01:27:04):
these two who've been doing itfor a while, she suffers a
little bit, but sure, if it waslike, I think her NXT run was
better because she's around witheverybody else who's similar to
her.
So her flaws are not asnoticeable as, obviously, when
you're in a ring with a Beckywho's been as a veteran, you
know.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
And so to a certain degree, I will easily agree with
you on that piece, which is whyI make that comparison with
Bret Hart, because Bret Harthart on a promo alone, not
standing in the ring withsomebody else he never had the
voice.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
He never had the voice for a promo true, but it's
like.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
But at the end of the day, he, he could at least.
He at least gets his pointacross, as so does does Lyra.
But put Bret Hart in the ringwith a Shawn Michaels and Bret
Hart gets his heart.
Bret Hart gets his heart, getshis heart hurt.
He gets all in his feels aboutthe sunny days and shit, but

(01:28:03):
it's like call him a heartbreakkid.
Shawn Michaels.
But, it's like Bret Hart andShawn Michaels in the ring.
Bret Hart suffers because ShawnMichaels can talk circles
around him, but when the bellgoes ring.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
You mean when you ring the bell?

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
When the bell goes ring.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
The tism is strong in you, boy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
When the bell goes ring, lyra gets into gear and
she wrestles very technicallysound and she wrestles her heart
out just as a Bret Hart would,and so that's the comparison
that I'm making she's got a lotof potential she does as a
wrestler.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
like I said before, she's doing great.
I just can't.
I do not like how they presenther.
I feel or she presents herself,maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
I don't think there's anything wrong with her
presentation.
It's just her mic work.
I really just think it's hermic work.

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
Like she.
I really just think it's hermic work.
She's got time better, true.
Look at Roman when he firststarted.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
The suffering succotash.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
Well, that's also because they kept giving him
terrible scripts.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
but Now one could say Lyra might be getting booty
scripts too.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
Again, yes, but at the same time, if we're bringing
back up that same, that's thesame conversation we had with
Eva Marie.
Here you go, here you go, herewe go.
You want to talk about that,right, queen, because the
training that she got and thetraining that Valkyria got

(01:29:45):
Valkyria's a great wrestler, butbad in promos.
Eva, I think, could at leasttalk.
She just wasn't great in thering, so it's just like kind of
the same situation.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
You're really reaching bro.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
You are.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
You are out here reaching so fucking hard on some
he out here stabbing.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
I'm just trying to piss you off.
He be trying to piss me off.
You be trying to piss me off.
You still couldn't improveListen.
Just like I'm trying to piss meoff, he out here really
reaching with that Because yoube trying to piss me the fuck
off.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Super reach no, not comparable.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
Alright, it is not comparable.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
Try harder, I'll give you some more time.
Try harder to make it morecomparable nah, I tried to piss
you off.
That was the point and itworked okay, listen, he's just
mad because I spit what's realand I always catch him thank you
, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
I was trying to tell that motherfucker.
Anyway, back to this match,thank you, that's about it.
Thank you, she was just a body,thank you.
So I was trying to tell thatmotherfucker.
Anyway, back to this match.
The match overall great spots,great execution from both people
.
I will definitely say Valkyriawas the MVP of this match.

Speaker 3 (01:31:07):
I did notice something about tonight.
For some reason, there was onepopular meet-up in the entire
night.
Almost every match, that wasthe electric chair.
That was in almost every match.
The electric chair drop Someversion of it.
Lyra did it, sienna did it,everybody did it throughout the

(01:31:29):
night at least one.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
That's interesting.
I didn't know.
I don't think I remember seeingthe Valkyrie match.

Speaker 3 (01:31:34):
Yeah, she did.
She had her up and let you dropand then did front wide.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
Yeah, she did.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
I mean because there was that and there was also.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
Here's another thing that also, when the match ended
and Becky was sliding outbecause she was grinning the
entire time as she slippedbackwards out of the ring.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
Here's another thing that also pisses me off, that
Babyface loves to do so.
It was completely fucking finethat Valkyria brought this
crowbar, but when Becky's aboutto use it, no, no, no, no, no,
and I'm like man, if you don'tget fuck out of here, bro,
because y'all clearly saw thatshit Becky brings out a kendo

(01:32:14):
stick.
Valkyrie says man, fuck thatshit, I'm actually trying to
hurt you.
I'm bringing out a crowbar, butno one likes Becky which is
true.

Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
Speak for yourself.
I don't think I speak for agood majority yeah that's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
Speak for yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Like.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
I said good majority.
How do you feel about Becky?

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
How do you feel about Becky?
I rest my case.
I rest my case.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
I think the man moniker is fucking, that shit is
dumb as hell.
That is dumb as hell.
That is dumb as hell.

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
I'm also still a Bailey man all day.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
I mean, we all know why we're Bailey men.

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
You want to call her a hugger.

Speaker 1 (01:32:58):
She's a great personality and she's a better
wrestler than Becky.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
You know what I can't argue with that?
I can't argue with that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:08):
You know what we did see tonight at all.
Dis with that.
I can't argue with that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
No, he did see Tanya Lowe disarm her, which he never
used.
She doesn't do it as muchanymore.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
It's kind of a transitional move if anything,
which is crazy, that it isbecause, like, that was her main
move.
Yeah, but now it's themanhandle slam, but now it's the
manhandle.
Or is it the manhandle?
Or is it just the man slam?
I thought it the manhandle, oris it just the man slam.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
I thought it was manhandle, but like, maybe
they're both stupid but I mean,you're not wrong, it's basically
the rock bottom, but sometimesit wants to be a urinagi, but
then sometimes it wants to be arock bottom.
It don't know what it wants tobe.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
Yeah, I mean, if anything, because of how this
has happened, it's like Lyra isnow detached from the
Intercontinental title, which Ican understand why, because I
also made the statement of factthat, like because she can no
longer go for the IC title andwith the series of matches that

(01:34:04):
she has had up until this point,unlike Jade Cargill, I think we
could really see Lyra in themain title picture.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
We all agree about that.
Maybe the reason why she's notgoing for the IC title now she
might be going.
Well, tiffy Smackdown andValkyria's Raw.
So I don't she has to wait,though.
No, because then, naomi, youwould want to see the belt on
her.
I would be perfectly fine ifTiffy lost to Valkyria.

(01:34:33):
I'm okay with that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
I'm okay with that.
No see what?
I think they're not stop-.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
No, I'm dead serious.
No, no, no, no, no, I'm soserious.
No, I'm so serious Like ifanybody were to beat her.
I didn't see Jade doing it, butit was kind of like it was the
writing on the wall because youwon Queen in the Ring.
But if you're going to take out, if you're going to take
Valkyria out of this pictureright now of going against Becky
because that was thestipulation and if she goes for

(01:34:59):
the heavyweight title, she goesfor the women's title.
I don't want it to happen toNaomi, because we're still
cooking with that right, buthere's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
Here's my predictions on that.
They just had this show Nah,they don't really do?
They never really.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
They just every once in a while will let somebody pop
over to another show.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
Yeah, that's what they've been doing this year.
Yeah, but what?
Yeah, exactly.
But what I do think right isthe fact that where this is
going to go, obviously she'sgoing to go straight into Bayley
, right, and her and Bayley areabout to have a whole scenario

(01:35:38):
Because Bayley has now cost hera chance at going for the
Intercontinental title, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
But here's the thing.
So then what happened?
Like, okay, because we sawcertain small flashes of Becky
trying to make her go heal andhit her with the crowbar.
So are you maybe saying that?
Okay?
So valkyria comes at bailey andbailey was like I was trying to
help you.
I was trying to help you andnow bailey gets pissed off
because you're coming at me whenI was really trying to help you

(01:36:04):
.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
And then bailey turns well, no, it's not so much that
bailey's gonna.
I mean, maybe bailey does turn,but from what it's going to
look like, all valkyria isseeing is the fact bailey
interfered in her match.
Kind of like how valkyriainterfered in bailey's match and

(01:36:25):
cost her the title.
Just like how Valkyria kind ofcost Bayley the title Becky's
special guest referee.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
Go ahead Ew.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
I love how you say really dumb shit.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
I mean, but you got to tap it up here's the thing
they really dumb shit.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
so I can be like, all right, let's go to the next one
.

Speaker 1 (01:36:49):
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing becauseBecky's somehow going to get
maneuvered in that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
No, Bayley is done with her.
This was the final.
The match stipulation said aslong as Becky has the belt, Lyra
can't bother her, no more.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
No, she said she can't go against her for the
title.
But what I'm saying is, in thissituation Becky's probably
going to laugh it up, laugh itup and then Bayley's going to
come out there and then causeValkyrie to come out there and
them two argue with each other.
So Becky's probably going tolaugh it up and, if anything,
she would be kind of like aspecial guest referee.
I didn't say she's going to bein the match, she's not fighting
, she Special guest referee.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
But if that does happen, then that's extremely
stupid and I hate that you triedto talk that into existence,
because that doesn't make anyfucking sense.
It doesn't.
It doesn't make any sense.
Okay so how about this.

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
Who goes up next?

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
against Becky.
Then who goes up next againstEasy?
We have a tournament.
We have a number one contendersmatch, because there are plenty
of other mid-card women thatcan fight for this title.
Right now we have a Bella.
That's around here right nowshe's never had it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
Apparently she's injured, because I don't know if
this is confirmed, buteverybody keeps saying that she
got injured from Paige becauseshe elbow dropped her implant,
not Paige.
Um no, not.
Do drop fucking um Paige.
Because she elbow dropped herimplant.
Paige, not Paige.
Dew drop, dew drop, no, not dewdrop.
Fucking Piper Niven.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
See.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
No, we're not calling her dew drop.
We're not calling her dew drop.

Speaker 3 (01:38:22):

Speaker 1 (01:38:24):

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
That ain't right.
That ain't right.
Shame on you.
Shame on you Story.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
You know what Chelsea Green could go against her.
You know what?

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
what they will most likely do.
There's gonna be.
Chelsea Green fuck, no, no herand her secret hervice are all
on Raw right now.
They literally just got done.
Like you know what, here we goactually.
Okay, the Hurvists are all onRaw right now.

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
Yeah, they literally just got done, like Robert
Stone's still on.
You know what?
Here we go, actually, okay,becky and Green.
Right, because she was the USchampion, so she was doing the
Hurvists and everything.
So now that was US, now she'sintercontinental.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
She's probably going to go for it, but I don't think
she's going to win, becausethat's heel on heel and no one
wants to see that kind of thing.
Now, who is going to go for it?
I don't know, but who I know isnot going for it.
It's going to be lyra.
She, because she can, of course, and and maybe maybe bailey

(01:39:27):
does come out there and tries todo the thing, but then all
that's going to mean is Lyra'sgoing to cause Bayley to match,
so that now Bayley and Lyra, asI originally stated, are going
to be going at it while Beckygoes on to do fuck off over here
somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
I want y'all to also realize that we really
appreciate women's wrestling somuch because, out of every match
that we've talked about, we'vehad the most like either not
frustrations or passions aboutthese women's matches, because
it's like we hold women'swrestling so high, like.
I want y'all to realize thatBecause, like, even when we talk

(01:40:05):
about Jade and Tiffany, when wetalk about fucking the tag
match, we've all had apassionate moment to just be
like we really want better forour women's product.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
Well, I mean it also goes to the fact that the
matches were good.
Yeah, they were good matches,solid matches.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
What would you give this one?

Speaker 2 (01:40:26):
I'd give it 3.5.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
Not 5.4.
I want to give it 4 because ofValkyrie, because of Valkyrie's
performance, outside of the factthat she couldn't rip the thing
off the fire hydrant.
If she would have did it like abadass boom, that would have
been like uh, but obviously shewent under the ring and had some
ice snippet.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
That's obvious.
When she did that moonsaultbecause I know you said like
when she did that moonsaultbecause I know you said like
wait, did it.
It did slip out she put it backin.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, I told you it actuallydid.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
Yeah, I told you that .
Yeah, I saw that shit Like.
I know you were all like did itor did it not?
I didn't say nothing because Iwas just going to let it go.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
But it definitely happened.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
I remember seeing oh, she was all like oh shit, fuck,
fuck, fuck, bad camera angle oh, that was a lot of bad camera
angles don't even get that.
That's the podcast on itself.
There's been a lot of badcamera angles this week in
general.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
But you say, you say a 3.5.

Speaker 3 (01:41:24):
You I'll give it 3.5 okay.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
I want to give it a 4 , mainly because of Valkyria's
performance, but overall thematch it was really fun and I
felt like it deserves the 4because it was fun.
It was a fun match.
They did do some reallyinnovative shit, like chair spot
where she was swinging heraround and she was innovative
stuff.
Out of everybody in this thatwhole well, outside of the tlc,

(01:41:54):
because you can't count thatthey got to do innovative shit
no matter what, oh yeah.
But out of the innovation ofthings that we've never seen
used with chairs or used withthis, they went outside the box.
No, blood.
Pops.

Speaker 3 (01:42:09):
No blood Ah, ah, blood, ah, as you still pull the
advertising.
A-e-w slander.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
I had to think of all the advertising.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
Slim Jim tables.
Snap it to a Slim Jim table,baby.
Hey look, actually the Slim Jimtables kind of make sense
because Slim Jims do be lookinglike that and when you hit the
table it snaps like a Slim Jim.
That is actually smart, fuckingadvertisement To be fair,
wrestlemania was the worst right.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, they have matches.
We don't get minute-madematches now.
We don't get the advertisementmatches, as Mania did.

Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
I actually really think that they were happening.
It was just that, unlikeWrestleMania, the matches were
relatively engrossing, where youdidn't notice it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
Yeah, you didn't notice it.
Like the cone zone, fuck out ofhere with that shit.
That shit was dumb, anyway.
Next match, next match.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
What Sankoa versus Foxy?

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
oh yeah, that shit was that shit pissed me off, bro
.
What the fuck was the point you?
Put a steel cage in there,normally steel cage matches,
just like with CM Punk and, umuh, drew McIntyre.
That ended the feud.
This is not ending the feud,this is just transitioning it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
I do feel that this match, oddly enough, was the
weakest match of the night and,like Jacob, deserves better 100%
.
He just deserves.
That's all I can really say ishe just deserves better, and
it's like.
I think what makes it Like,what makes this kind of rough,

(01:43:57):
is the fact that, number one,this is like a United States
title match.
Okay, and not enough respecthas been put on the United
States title to make me care, ona steel cage level, about how
this match is going to go.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
The match setup wasn't great either.
No it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
Yeah, like Honestly the match setup is.
It's very equivalent to likeearly Death Rider setup, whereas
, like we have this faction, wehave the numbers and sure you're
strong and dominant, but DeathRiders a lull.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
I feel, I feel like, also, I feel like, so you say it
was an AEW match.
I feel like, I feel like theway this match.
I feel like if, with this matchalone, I feel like this would

(01:44:56):
have been perfect for the GoldenFederation era or whatever.
Like Vincent Mang on commentary, oh my god, he's going after
the top of the cage.

Speaker 2 (01:45:05):
I don't even think commentary could have made it
better it felt like it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:09):
it felt like Vince McMahon's commentary from back
in the Federation years wouldhave matched perfectly for this,
Especially when he broke offthe handcuffs and he jumps over.
Like how you know, you wouldsee like Hulk Hogan or some shit
back in the day would do, oh myGod, he's pulling it back in.
Like that's the Vince McMahoncommentary.

Speaker 2 (01:45:28):
But the problem is, at least Hulk Hogan would have
won.

Speaker 3 (01:45:32):
Damn.
Well, I mean brother, yeah,this shit would have been
SmackDown man.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
Which is crazy.
Maybe main event Honestly takeeverything that happened here.
Put this on SmackDown, itprobably would have felt better.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
It would have felt justified.
I put this off smackdown.
I probably would have feltbetter.
It would have felt justified.
I give it 2.5.
No, actually I would give it atwo because I'm sitting here
like okay, jimmy, you cannothandle all of these other
members, so I was just hoping,like okay, are we getting a new
member?
Are we getting a returningmember?

(01:46:08):
Like something should havehappened with the family to give
us.

Speaker 3 (01:46:15):
I feel like that's what I'm saying when you say
match return like someone shouldhave been in a match that just
came out of nowhere yeah,everything was like at the end
of the match that is a veryinteresting bit with this being
SummerSlam.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
There wasn't no like oh shit, this person like how we
had that question on the lastpodcast from some story as far
as, like you know who would belike if you could have someone
show up, kind of thing Brittcould have someone show up.
Kind of thing Britt Bakerdidn't show up and no one

(01:46:56):
Throughout the whole paper.

Speaker 1 (01:46:58):
Well, we're talking about in the middle of a match.
Not like, but in the middle ofa match.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
Which is yeah Well, I mean With what does happen at
the end of the night.
It still did fit that bill ofthe idea of like just somebody
new coming so I technicallybrock.

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
Ain't new though, but yeah, new enough.

Speaker 2 (01:47:22):
It was of the product they knew it was a new face or
someone who hasn't been thereand who was returning, which was
a part of the original idea.
So you know that's very funnyand coincidental that you were
the one that asked that questionand out of all the things that

(01:47:43):
happened in this pay-per-view,you were the one who got the
most out of that question.

Speaker 1 (01:47:55):
Don't gas him up anymore.
Listen, because you see howhe's still hyped for that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
Ain't that the next match to talk about?

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
No, that's right.
Next match.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
I thought was great.
It was an Eddie Guerrero.
It was an Eddie Guerrero payinghomage to Eddie Guerrero Styles
.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
Heat.
See the problem.
I will say that the only thingI got out of that match is yes,
I really want that shirt.
Styles.
Heat is an absolute slapperpiece of merchandise and you'll
probably see me wearing it onthe pod if it's for sale.

Speaker 1 (01:48:32):
It didn't look like.
It was kind of like a stickeron it, low key.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
It's not on the shop as of right now.
You haven't checked yet, it'snot yet, but when Monday come
around I'm going to be lookingand if it's on the shop I'm
going to be booking.
So, but like solid match it was.
This was a fun match and Ithink, for the spot that it was,
it did exactly what it neededto do get us over and get us in

(01:49:00):
the right space.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
nah the shoe.
One was the shoe was.
That was classic, eddie, yeahthat's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:49:08):
All of it was classic .
Eddie, all of it was yeah,which I still found it funny.
It's like that was classic,eddie.

Speaker 1 (01:49:11):
Yes, I'm saying All of it was classic Eddie.
All of it was yeah, which Istill found it funny.
It's like AJ.
But if you did that and thereferee saw it and said ring the
bell.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
Yeah, there was a little bit of airheadedness in
this, because if that would havebeen the case then, yes, he
would have lost.

Speaker 1 (01:49:26):
Yeah, and it'd be like well, how did that work for
you, buddy?
He would have won, but thechampion still would have been
exactly.
It's like good job there, buddyI'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
I think it was you who said uh, that day, like
dominic mysterio's fuckingdominatrix mask, like no, that
was me, yeah if you remember,remember pit fighter, remember
the boss.

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
You had to fight in pit, fight the end of it.
He's a just win and he'll comeup and pop up on screen.
You had to fight in pit, fight.
He's a just win and he'll comeup and pop up on screen.
You had to fight him at the end.
That's what that mask remindedme of that's the mask that he'd
be wearing it was definitely athree for what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:50:04):
It's a three, I mean for what I have, I give it a 2.5
.
Because it was For me it wasforgettable.
Very, it was.
I mean, it was fun, butforgettable.

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
I don't know that style shirt is not forgettable
to your ass.
I will Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:50:26):
If we're going off of drip here, yes, 10 out of 10.

Speaker 1 (01:50:29):
Yeah, he had the drip and the card.
Would want to do it again andthe card he came out with the
low rider and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
But I guess, as far as the moment goes, sure, low
rider Styles heat, like with theLatino heat pants, like sure.

Speaker 3 (01:50:45):
His tights.
That was great.
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
Yeah, that was dope as shit.
And then you have the matchthat literally ran on fired up.
If you know what I'm talkingabout, you play 2K Games.
These two motherfuckers was onfired up the whole match Because
they had nothing but fuckingspecials.
Had nothing but specials.

Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
However, I feel as if they were maybe a little
eccentric at the very end, butrelatively tastefully done.

Speaker 1 (01:51:22):
We're talking about john cena versus uh cody rose by
.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
I feel as if the, though they did their finisher
quite a bit at least the firstcouple that they did it didn't
feel overused to a certaindegree.

Speaker 1 (01:51:45):
Until it got to the end.

Speaker 3 (01:51:46):
It got there at the end.
It was false finish after falsefinish.

Speaker 2 (01:51:49):
Once they started doing that piece then it started
hurting a bit, but it was likeat first at least they were
selling him very good to acertain degree.

Speaker 3 (01:52:03):
You were waiting for that heel turn, the entire match
.

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
That was me Fam.
If you watch SmackDown and yousaw that whole exchange with
John Cena and Cody Rhodes.

Speaker 1 (01:52:17):
You still got to watch that promo.
You can see why.
You can see why I did not watchthe promo yet it was like it
did not.

Speaker 2 (01:52:26):
It felt so, number one, it not just felt, it was
completely out of nowhere.
We've been going super hardtrying to shove this heel turn
down everyone's throats and itfelt like when someone's, it
almost felt like it was theirway of saying like, hey guys, so

(01:52:47):
this heel turn didn't work.
It was supposed to be one waybut it ended up being another
way and I'll be honest, thisisn't me and I'm sorry, my bad.
And he's like.
I hope you guys can forgive me.
Cody Rose lit a fire under myass and the real John Cena's

(01:53:11):
back and all Cody Rose had tosay was Forgive me.
Cody Rhodes lit a fire under myass and the real John Cena's
back and all Cody Rhodes had tosay was Welcome back, john Cena.
They had a great American beerin the middle of the ring.
John Cena's music played that.
I didn't notice that.

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
And he high fives all the kids on the way out.

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
That's crazy and I'm sitting here like that's it,
that that's how you're gonnasell me on this.
You're, that's, that's reallyhow you're gonna heal, that's
how we're turning baby face,just like that.
And, of course, the sheep thatthe crowd is.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
They're like oh, yay our hero is back john cena.
Yay, look at these supermanback.

Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
Super Superman has returned, our savior is here and
I'm just like that easy.
It just took a half a promo.

Speaker 1 (01:54:05):
A half a promo and what gets me to take back
everything he's been saying anddoing everything from the kick
in the nuts- To take backeverything he's been saying and
doing, everything From the kickin the nuts, the breaking up
with the audience.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
The breaking up, the I'm going to ruin wrestling John
Cena pipe bomb To hey, thisheel turn didn't work.
I'm sorry, can you guys pleaseforgive me?
Can I be regular John Cena?

Speaker 1 (01:54:37):
Hey, I'm not trying to ruin wrestling guys.
I love wrestling that part.

Speaker 3 (01:54:42):
It was like bro, I do like the high Matt Cardona.

Speaker 1 (01:54:46):
High.
It was high Matt Cardona, highClaudia Casioli.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:54:50):
That killed me.
I like Cardona's response tothat.

Speaker 1 (01:54:55):
Hi, john Cena that shit was funny.
But overall with this match Iwas wondering why the whole time
was the stage have this squarecut in it, only to find out it
was just for this spot for Cenato carry up Cody on his shoulder
.
I was like that's the reason,the one reason you have this

(01:55:19):
whole cut in the state, becausenobody else used it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
That was the only fucking reason at one point rio
was gonna shoot this, becausehow she?

Speaker 1 (01:55:27):
yeah, when she stepped on it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah herself right on that yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:55:33):
I was like is Ray here?

Speaker 2 (01:55:36):
It was.
Ray must have.
His knees are not well for that.

Speaker 1 (01:55:41):
As much as I wish.
Are you saying he's going totear both quads, st Lance, how
about?

Speaker 3 (01:55:45):
that throwback to Umaga and John Cena.

Speaker 2 (01:55:48):
With the rope and the .

Speaker 1 (01:55:50):
With the rope and the oh, yeah, yeah yeah.
I was confused for a second.
I was like the fuck that's how.

Speaker 3 (01:55:55):
That's how John Cena beat Umaga.
That's the only way he couldbeat.

Speaker 1 (01:55:58):
Umaga, wait.
So you're telling me this matchwas kind of like a rundown of
like all of Cena's big momentsbecause, like you said before,
it really was tossing the stairs, fighting in the audience which
, by the way, cena had a pointwhere Cody was like I'm going to
take this trash can and throwit at Cena.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
Nope, yeah, Josh, Almost like.
That made me think about justnow.
Just made me think about likeno mercy.
Oh, when you reverse, Like ifyou reverse, Because if you
throw the weapon and you likefreaking, he completely no mercy

(01:56:33):
.
And especially if it was the,the chairs or like the bells
well, no more.
So the the NPC, oh yeah, likeif it was, if it was an NPC, and
it was like and it was adisqualification match and you
grabbed the weapon typesituation if you throw it at
them and they catch it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:52):
They catch and they put it back, they just throw it
back them and they catch it,they catch and they put it back,
they just disappear and theydon't use it yeah, well, it was
wrestlemania 2000 when itdisappeared, but yeah but that's
what it just.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
You said.
That just made me think aboutthat.
I'm not using that.
And then I mean as far as thematch goes, I think, do I want
to say that?

Speaker 1 (01:57:16):
I want to say it's a three.
I'm going to say it's a three.

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
As far as the matches that we've had for John Cena,
this is the best one.

Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
You're talking about the end run.

Speaker 3 (01:57:26):
Yes, there's a lot of clean finishes these last two
nights.

Speaker 1 (01:57:32):
We already mentioned that earlier.
There's a lot of clean finishes.

Speaker 2 (01:57:35):
No, I mean this one can.
This matchup, however, couldonly be so clean because it was
a street fight.

Speaker 3 (01:57:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:57:42):
Now, the other thing that I did feel a little weird
about is the fact, like you know, like the fact that Cody Rhodes
playing up this whole thing oflike this is a street fight and
I'm using the turnbuckle, but Idon't know if I want to use it
to beat you with, and it's likecody rose brother that conscious
thing was yeah, no.

Speaker 1 (01:58:00):
That thing was like is he about to turn heel?

Speaker 2 (01:58:04):
but it's like how, how do you turn heel using
weapons in a match?
That is no disqualificationstreet fight that.

Speaker 1 (01:58:13):
That's why I was confused.
It's like because he kept doingthis whole conscious shit and
it's like, was he like I gottaflip the script and it got to
the point where I'm likeeveryone's like starting to boo
him.

Speaker 2 (01:58:22):
I'm like, yes, boo him, Just fucking hit the Hit
him.

Speaker 1 (01:58:26):
Yeah, no, what was?
What game?
Uh, Wrestlemania, WrestleMania,the arcade Hit him.

Speaker 3 (01:58:35):
WrestleMania the RK pin him, pin him, whatever you
the match goes to.

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
John Cena, god damn round two have an ass but like
outside of that piece, ofoutside of that bit, this has
been John Cena's best matchsince he's come back his punk
match is alright.

Speaker 1 (01:59:01):
I mean no, we're talking about just in general
like his final run, well, no,that's what I'm getting at.

Speaker 3 (01:59:06):
His punk was not a bad match.

Speaker 1 (01:59:08):
It's alright definitely wasn't money in the
bank.

Speaker 2 (01:59:11):
No, well, I mean, yeah, I think his Money in the
Bank.
No, well, I mean, yeah, I thinkhis Money in the Bank match.
John Cena's Money in the Bankmatch is probably the worst one
in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:59:22):
No, I'm talking about when he went against CM Punk at
Money in the Bank for the belt.

Speaker 2 (01:59:28):
Oh, that match.
Okay, I thought you was talkingabout when John Cena's match
that happened at that money inthe bank.
Ooh, that was dumb, with Codyand fucking Logan Paul.
Dumb, yeah, dumb, which isfunny because I feel as if that,
with Brock Lesnar here, I don'tthink they're going to revisit
this Logan Paul shoot.

Speaker 3 (01:59:46):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:59:47):
Like that, wait, what Well.
So, as we all now know,continuing on after the match
ended and Cody Rhodes becomesour champion once again,
removing it from the clutches ofJohn Cena the piece that puts
the cherry on top of like, wow,so Smackdown really.
Was them selling me on the factthat John Cena is a babyface

(02:00:08):
again?
Because the one return thathappens throughout this whole
two night fiasco is Brock Lesnar, something that was not on
probably anyone's bingo card,especially with the things that
are happening right now my forsome reason.

Speaker 3 (02:00:28):
I don't know why like .

Speaker 2 (02:00:34):
It still blows my mind the fact that you're all
like.
I mean Brock Lesnar.
It's like why would it be BrockLesnar?
You, deadass, kept saying thatshit too.

Speaker 3 (02:00:41):
Why would it be?

Speaker 2 (02:00:42):
Brock Lesnar.
It doesn't.
I say it.
At the time I said it doesn'tmake sense for it to be Brock
Lesnar I literally like that.
And then after it be BrockLesnar, I literally like that.
And then after it becomes BrockLesnar in my mind now, huh, I
guess it does make sense,Because John Cena is a babyface

(02:01:04):
now.

Speaker 1 (02:01:06):
And we need Superman to take on the beast himself,
but now that he has no PaulHeyman, though, I wonder how
these promos are going to be.

Speaker 3 (02:01:17):
I hope they cross pass him Well.

Speaker 1 (02:01:18):
I mean Because he was his mouthpiece back in the day.

Speaker 2 (02:01:21):
Well, here's the thing.
They don't have to be.
You know why?
Because John Cena is a babyface.

Speaker 1 (02:01:28):
Now, no, I'm talking about Because while Brock can
cut a promo, he cannot cut apromo to go against Cena.

Speaker 2 (02:01:38):
Well, he doesn't have to.
He is the beast incarnate.
He just picks niggas up anddrop them back down.

Speaker 1 (02:01:43):
Well, yeah, but Suplex City bitch, he's not that
nigga, no more he's, I don'tknow.
Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:01:51):
Did you not see the form he was in tonight?

Speaker 1 (02:01:54):
I mean no, what I'm saying is he's in a different
era of himself now.

Speaker 2 (02:01:58):
Brother Suplex City.
Bitch will always be SuplexCity bitch.

Speaker 1 (02:02:03):
Yeah, I really hate it when somebody actually turned
Rack City into Suplex City,bitch, it is what it is, brother
, that shit was like what thefuck, it's the thing.
Listen, when John Cena comesout there on Friday night and he
Technically he's not aSmackDown wrestler he can come
out Monday or Friday.

Speaker 2 (02:02:24):
Now what should happen is that he comes out on
Monday, but considering Maybethey might do the thing where
he's going to come out on Mondayand they'll save Cody Rhodes,
since that is the belt.

Speaker 1 (02:02:35):
Cody Rhodes is technically on SmackDown now
because he has the belt.

Speaker 2 (02:02:38):
Yeah, but however, whichever night it be, john
Cena's going to come out there.
He's going to further push thegood guy agenda, because he's a
good guy now.

Speaker 1 (02:02:53):
He's running with Stu again.

Speaker 2 (02:02:55):
There you go.
John Cena's a good guy.
He's going to say all of hisgood guy things.
He's going to do the John Cenaschtick, brapple dough, salute,
toss the hats.
Time is up.
Time is now.
All of that stuff.
He's going to say the John Cenastuff.
He's going to save the JohnCena stuff.
He's going to accept the factthat he's going to fight Brock

(02:03:18):
Lesnar.

Speaker 1 (02:03:19):
Brock Lesnar Hold up, hold up.
I could rub both of my niggasat the same time, bro, anyway,
so.

Speaker 2 (02:03:27):
Brock Lesnar's going to come out there.
He's probably going to savevery little and he's going to
break john cena, suplexes thewhole nine and maybe, just maybe
, john cena might look like he'sgoing to give him a, but no,
it's going to be an f5 and thenbrock lesnar is going to play

(02:03:47):
out and obviously brock lesnar,john cena going to be fighting.

Speaker 1 (02:03:50):
now, when they're going to fight is the question
Survivor Series, because he hasto survive.

Speaker 2 (02:03:54):
Brock, I mean all right, sure.

Speaker 1 (02:03:59):
Most likely, though, Because he could be like yo.
He says I understand you gotthese 10 dates left, or whatever
, but after I'm done with youyou ain't going to have none
left Like, so you got to surviveme Now.

Speaker 2 (02:04:10):
It makes me wonder if Brock Lesnar is going to be his
next challenge.

Speaker 1 (02:04:17):
How is John Cena going to finish out, is my
question Because, again, I thinkhe only has 10 days left.
He only has 10 days left.

Speaker 2 (02:04:25):
His next match is obviously going to be Brock
Lesnar.
That's going to be the next bigone, and so, after that next
big one, that has to be who isthe next?

Speaker 1 (02:04:34):
bad guy.
Wait, I forgot, because he'ssupposed to be all the way till
December too.
Yes, and we're still in fuckingAugust.

Speaker 2 (02:04:41):
That's why I'm saying Survivor Series is in November.
He's gonna.

Speaker 1 (02:04:48):
Yeah, yeah, so maybe he might not.
He might show up once a monthmaybe Maybe two times, okay,
hold on so.
So maybe he might show up oncea month, maybe Maybe two times,
okay, hold on so, maybe, okay,he'll show up, maybe on Raw.
That's one and then another,unless they're going to do it in
Paris.
I doubt that that's a SurvivorSeries match.
I agree Because it should belike okay, so Cena goes away for

(02:05:11):
a little bit, heals his wounds,and then maybe Brock is doing
something, and then Cena comesback for the save.

Speaker 3 (02:05:18):
Then who would Brock be caring about?

Speaker 2 (02:05:19):
Well, yeah, what is Brock going to do in the
meantime?
Well, he's going to have hisshtick where he's just going to
pull a fucking Paul Bearer andKane and just come out at random
matches in fucking Suplex Cityin F5, motherfuckers you mean,
like Austin used to bestuttering people randomly.

Speaker 3 (02:05:35):
He used to have fights to everyone.
I wouldn't mind seeing that,but but it's like Dick hard.
Does he go after Gunther?

Speaker 1 (02:05:46):
No, what?
No, it wouldn't make.
Gunther ain't got no belt, itwouldn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (02:05:50):
There ain't shit for him.
Yes, it would be.
Wouldn't make sense.
There ain't shit for him inhell.
Yes, it would be, but it's likeain't shit for him.

Speaker 1 (02:05:54):
on that light you have a point where it wouldn't
make sense.
But because these are bothpart-timers, what they'll
probably do constantly, justlike how the heel turn happened,
and Cena doesn't show up on TVfor maybe two weeks and they
keep talking about it constantlyand showing the replay over and
over and over again, and thenmaybe two weeks later he finally
comes out to address whathappened.

Speaker 3 (02:06:17):
Or does Brock sideline him for like a month or
two?

Speaker 1 (02:06:22):
Oh, like, come out, come out and face me, okay.

Speaker 3 (02:06:26):
And then we get the return of Cena, with an epic
showdown between him and theBeast.

Speaker 2 (02:06:30):
See, that's actually what I was about to say.
The whole thing, like John Cenacomes out and then like Brock
Lesnar actually just fuckingalmost ends him, just buries him
, and then it's like you know,like beats him to the point
where we're like almost cartinghis ass down a stretcher.

Speaker 1 (02:06:44):
I was more so thinking the opposite, like if
Cena kept like yo, come out here, face me.
And then Brock, just like, Igot what I wanted, I fucked with
you for a second.
And then Cena keeps telling himyo, come out here and face me,
ain't worth my time, bro.

Speaker 3 (02:07:02):
So we're going to do the Undertaker thing all over
again for.

Speaker 1 (02:07:04):
WrestleMania oh, like for Shawn Michaels and him no.

Speaker 3 (02:07:07):
No, it was Shawn Michaels and Taker.

Speaker 1 (02:07:09):
Oh, hmm, I didn't even think about that one for a
second.
That's literally what they didfor that.

Speaker 2 (02:07:13):
I'm not even going to think about that, just for John
Cena to come out there andTaker finally comes out and
fucking steamrolls him ExactlyOkay.

Speaker 1 (02:07:19):
So if you're also going to put that into a
situation, who do y'all thinkwill be Cena's last match?

Speaker 2 (02:07:28):
And that's the question.
That was the question I wouldsay what's happening after this
Brock Lesnar thing?
Because it's like Worthy ofbeing the last match this team,
Especially with no belts on theline.

Speaker 1 (02:07:39):
That's actually a question for the audience.
I want to hear as well who doyou think is Cena's last match?
Who do you think is worthyenough to take out the GOAT?
The final boss, nigga.
I feel like if that happened,then the once in a lifetime, the
twice in a lifetime and thethree times in a lifetime.

Speaker 2 (02:08:02):
I personally want it to happen to shit on those the
second people in a life, becauseI was there for the first time
in a lifetime alright, I wasthere for the first one and then
I was like damn, I saw somecrazy history, just for them to
immediately be like, hey, we'regoing to do it again next year.
I'm like man, what is this?

Speaker 3 (02:08:22):
But at this point.
That would be good though.

Speaker 2 (02:08:27):
For the Rock to end his.

Speaker 3 (02:08:30):
No, never said CM's going to lose, but it would also
circle back to the whole I wantyour soul, shit.
They could somehow clean thatup.
The?

Speaker 1 (02:08:41):
Rock is not coming back.

Speaker 3 (02:08:42):
But they could clean that up a little bit with Cena
and the Rock.

Speaker 2 (02:08:46):
I mean only because you have not watched and heard
the original promo that JohnCena cut.
He addresses the fact that he,the way he kind of said it in a
promo, he almost said in a way,where it's like he did this
because he thought he would havehelp throughout this and then

(02:09:06):
he ended up doing this all alone.
Yeah, he dead ass did say thatshit okay, and and so, with what
you said, there is a premisefor that, which is why, and then
, on top of that, jossie and theRock are one and one.
Okay, wait.
So you're saying, are yousaying?

Speaker 1 (02:09:27):
are you saying it's going to be kind of like the
Stone Cold situation, whereStone Cold kept beating the Rock
every WrestleMania and then theRock actually ends Stone Cold's
career in his last match?

Speaker 2 (02:09:37):
No, I am more so saying regardless of a win or
lose, which of course it wouldmore so be John Cena winning.
But my take is there is meritfor the match because the first
time they fought the Rock wonthe unnecessary.
Second time they fought theRock won the unnecessary.
Second time they fought JohnCena won.

(02:09:58):
And usually when you have a oneand one, you gotta break the
fucking tie.

Speaker 1 (02:10:04):
You do that's just how that works, but I don't
think the Rock cares.

Speaker 3 (02:10:08):
But with those, yeah, but he is on the board to the
KBO, that's what I'm saying andhe's gonna make his shit go his
way listen.

Speaker 2 (02:10:15):
That would also give him a hell of a rating no, I
think he's caring too much abouthis movie career yes, it's one
of those things where, unlesscause like for John Cena, when
you look at the list of peoplewho John Cena could face who are
active wrestlers, it's like itwouldn't.

(02:10:37):
There's no one who he'd be ableto.
There's no one that makes senseoutside of Brock Lesnar,
because, honestly, after tonight, because John Cena lost, it
really makes no sense for JohnCena fighting anybody else,
unless we're going to get a Codyand Cena three because they are
actually one-one.
But at that point it's like.

(02:11:00):
But why Like?
Why We've done this twice now,kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (02:11:04):
And that story now at this point burned out with that
.

Speaker 2 (02:11:07):
It's burned out because John Cena's good now.
Now, unless we was thatoriginal crazy thought we had,
where it's like Cody goes heel,cody goes heel, and then the
Rock comes out with him, thenmaybe, but that didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (02:11:26):
That would have been like a crazy moment if that
happened tonight.
I think that would have toppedthe I don't want to say anything
kind of tops the self shit, butthat definitely would have
topped anything kind of tops theSeth shit, but they definitely
would have topped the Seth shit.

Speaker 2 (02:11:39):
Oh, it would have topped the Listen by some crazy
margin.
The Rock came out here and thenCody Rose turned babyface today
.
Or would it turn heel tonight?
Tonight, I think that wouldhave beat John Cena's heel turn
personally.

Speaker 1 (02:12:03):
I mean you're not lying at this point.

Speaker 3 (02:12:06):
Cody Rhodes is the people's champion.

Speaker 1 (02:12:07):
You're not lying.
Yo yo, yo yo.
What if the Rock gives him thatmoniker too?
What being the people'schampion calling?
Being the people's championCalling Cody?

Speaker 2 (02:12:17):
Rose, the people's champion, Ha ha ha ha.
Does he give?

Speaker 3 (02:12:20):
him the fake belt too Fuck.

Speaker 2 (02:12:23):
Cody Rose already has the belt.

Speaker 1 (02:12:25):
No, the Rock's dumbass belt, muhammad Ali belt.

Speaker 2 (02:12:28):
Oh, just because.

Speaker 1 (02:12:29):
Yeah, which was the Brahma Bull belt, which has been
in wrestling games like foreverand everything which is crazy.
That was what it ended up beingyeah, it was literally that and
I was like, bro, you've neveractually seen that belt, ever
seen in like any situation.

Speaker 2 (02:12:44):
It was a fake belt and then somehow it ended up
becoming a real one, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:12:49):
So overall for the match, you guys give it around a
3, solid 3.

Speaker 2 (02:12:57):
I'll give it a 3.5 when you give it bell to bell
honestly, I'll give it a 4 forwhat we got only because of the
multiple fucking specials andlike that's what makes it a 3.5

(02:13:18):
for me.

Speaker 1 (02:13:19):
I understand that completely.

Speaker 2 (02:13:20):
Yeah, like it makes it a 3.5 makes it a 3, that
makes it a 3.5 and then, but inthe whole Brock Lesnar piece is
what keeps it in a good standingyeah, like, okay, I want to say
like it could have made it afour.

Speaker 1 (02:13:36):
I got a 3.7.

Speaker 2 (02:13:38):
I got a 3.

Speaker 3 (02:13:42):
Like it should have been a four but like I think
that half star right there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm dead the little bit of thestar is missing.
No it gives you a corner of thestar.
Now I'm dead.

Speaker 1 (02:13:51):
No, it gives you a corner of the star now, so you
get half and the other, oh,there's still like a whole piece
, like a piece of the star righthere.

Speaker 3 (02:13:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, man so.

Speaker 1 (02:14:06):
SummerSlam as a PLE.
What would you rate it starrating-wise?

Speaker 2 (02:14:16):
As a PLE?
What would you rate it starrating-wise?
As a PLE, it is a.
It became a solid three.
If we're giving it the Sonicrating, as we would, it is a.
It should have been a.
B it should have been a.

Speaker 3 (02:14:38):
B.

Speaker 2 (02:14:39):
It should have been a B.
It should have been a B.
But there are just certainthings that, like y'all could
have done better, or maybe justdidn't put it in.

Speaker 1 (02:14:48):
I will say, this was the car, this was the PLE where
you weren't excited for shit.
This was the car, this was theple where you weren't excited
for shit, but it the excitementcame about.
When you're like, as huntersaid it when he was on the scrum
, did we deliver?
I mean, yeah, you did, but likeyou didn't, you didn't sell me
on this, this ple, like I wasn'tlike man, I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (02:15:11):
It was the traditional side of you as a
wrestling fan to be like, well,we gotta watch the ple exactly
and I think which we definitelyhave to have a conversation
about it on another podcast andthat's the fact that I think,
across the board, right now, tnaexcluded, but across the board,

(02:15:31):
we're not doing a good jobbuilding to these PLEs and
pay-per-views right now.
Now, when we get to them,mostly they're great.
That's just because of thewrestling and yes, it's because
of the wrestling, not because ofthe story going into it.

(02:15:51):
It's just they deliver on thewrestling piece, which I guess
is great, but at the same timewe're going to watch it because
we're wrestling fake.

Speaker 1 (02:16:02):
Yeah, that's kind of like our tradition now, just
like anybody has a discipline orwhatever you every pay-per-view
you're going to watch thepay-per-view.
You may not have watched Rawand SmackDown and everything,
but you know when that PLE comesout.
That is what you brought ushere for.
This is the thing you weretrying to sell us and we're here

(02:16:23):
now.
Sell me what you're trying tosell me.

Speaker 2 (02:16:27):
And they haven't been selling right Nope, and that's
across the board, yeah,unfortunately.
Well, that is a.
I am like listen, t, t and a.
They are on their redemptionarc hard as fuck right now and
they are, they're trying, theyare doing their best, they're
gonna get that tv deal.
I will agree and I and I'm I'mstarting.

Speaker 1 (02:16:50):
It's because of wwe I'm.

Speaker 2 (02:16:51):
I'm feeling the what uh, what uh uh, because I talked
about earlier WWE.
I'm feeling what, because Italked about it earlier off
camera.
I'm feeling what Eric Bischoffwas saying when they get that TV
deal AEW in trouble Becausethey ain't going to be number
two, no more.

Speaker 3 (02:17:08):
Yeah, 100%, no, no.

Speaker 1 (02:17:12):
I will also agree that Pee-lee is a three and, uh,
as much as you may not havesaid, the Seth Rollins part, I
liked it.
I like how they did it.
Brock was definitely when youwas popping the fuck off.
I'm in the kitchen eating awing like nigga.
They did it, nigga, we made it.
I was just.

(02:17:33):
I was definitely dumbfounded.

Speaker 3 (02:17:35):
Y'all hear Brock Lesnar shit.
Listen, and then 20 secondslater we hear it.

Speaker 2 (02:17:41):
I, uh, I.
It's been a minute since I Ihave not instantly eaten shit
like that.

Speaker 1 (02:17:47):
Oh yeah, you that was crazy, bro, because I mean, we
were literally talking about it.

Speaker 2 (02:17:52):
I'm like ain't, no way, that doesn't make any sense
.
Mid-sentence, mid-sentence,saying all of this, and then it
happens and I'm looking at himliterally like this I'm like, eh
, and I reload yeah like.

Speaker 1 (02:18:07):
I'm out here looking like Triple A Swag.
Was like Swag was a littledumbfounded, I ain't gonna lie.
Was like Swag was a littledumbfounded, I ain't gonna lie,
he was Nick.

Speaker 2 (02:18:19):
And I had to eat it.
I guess Pause, Pause.

Speaker 1 (02:18:23):
Brock Lesnar, oh man.

Speaker 2 (02:18:28):
Brock Lesnar's here, boys.

Speaker 1 (02:18:30):
So one of the things I brought up to Swag and I even
brought up the story I amextremely tired of these fucking
stages not being stages anymore, they're just fucking screens.
Okay, and that was the originalpremise of our next episode and
we're gonna continue that.
So in the next episode, likeSmackdown Fist or what was it?

Speaker 3 (02:18:55):
No Mercy, oh the no Mercy.

Speaker 1 (02:18:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:18:59):
No Backlash.

Speaker 1 (02:19:00):
Backlash.

Speaker 2 (02:19:02):
Or the burning A's for Armageddon.

Speaker 1 (02:19:05):
Yeah, like it was staged, bro, like there's no
stage anymore yeah.
Nothing is staged anymore, sowe're gonna continue bringing
that back for the next episode.
But now I also wanna includeanother future episode, because
I introduced both of you to thisand you have done a deep dive

(02:19:26):
on it.
We've been talking abouttalking, we've been wanting to
talk about New Japan shit for awhile and swag accidentally got
into a deep dive of a iceberg ofall the dark things that's
happened in New Japan and Iintroduced them both to Super
Fire Pro Wrestling and the darkshit that is that game, and I

(02:19:48):
want to give them a chance towatch it again and let's just
fucking talk about it.

Speaker 3 (02:19:53):
New Japan though.

Speaker 2 (02:19:57):
I don't know enough about New Japan, but I have.
I have decided that I'm goingto.
I don't know much New Japan,but I'm going.
I want to get to know New Japan, and the reason why I'm wanting
to get to know New Japan andthe reason why I'm wanting to
get to know New Japan is, forall intents and purposes, to

(02:20:18):
find out why AEW isn't fuckingworking.
Because, as people like to say,that AEW is supposed to be like
the American New Japan andpeople used to really like New
Japan, and so I'm trying to findout what was it about New Japan
?
Because it's like, with the waythat they work, you know New
Japan, they're not necessarilysuper story-driven kind of thing

(02:20:41):
.

Speaker 1 (02:20:42):
I truly feel like they don't have really any good
stars.
Like when you look at what NewJapan?
Yeah, when you look at NewJapan from like 2000.
I think it was like 15 going onwhenever Kenny was there.
You had Okada, you had Naito,you had President President, now

(02:21:04):
President, Fucking President ofNew Japan.
Ace, Ace, yup, you had Ace.
You had the Bullet Club, whichwas actually cool.

Speaker 3 (02:21:13):
Cool because you had Debit, which was actually cool
yeah, but that's 2015.

Speaker 1 (02:21:18):
Devitt was fame, was definitely at NXT in 2015, but,
um, what I'm saying still, Ithink it was AJ was the leader
of Bullet Club at that point,but, either way, bullet Club was
cool.
Okay, um, murder Grandpa AJ wasthe leader of Bullet Club at
that point, but, either way,bullet Club was cool.
Okay, murder Grandpa is stillthere, but he's one of those

(02:21:40):
characters who's always going tobe cool.
They had a lot of people thatmade you want to watch the
product.
There's nobody to me that makesme want to watch the product
right now.
Zack Sabre Jr is their fuckingchampion again.
And everybody says Zack SabreJr is their fucking champion
again.
And everybody says Zack SabreJr matches are not that great,
even though I think they'repretty good, but they don't like

(02:22:01):
his matches.
So it's like they don't haveany stars and then AEW kept
taking their stars.

Speaker 3 (02:22:06):
But the Japanese, though they're not huge fans of
wrestling.

Speaker 1 (02:22:11):
Bullshit.
They gave Zack Sabre Jr thefucking belt.

Speaker 3 (02:22:14):
Yeah, but he's still not getting over with that.

Speaker 1 (02:22:18):
He's not.
But what I'm saying is if youdon't like technical wrestling,
why would you put your belt onthe most fucking technical
wrestler that you have in yourroster?
Who else are they going to giveit to at this point?
You ain't got no fucking stars.

Speaker 2 (02:22:30):
So what you're telling me is that you have.

Speaker 3 (02:22:32):
Evil and a few others , but that's just.

Speaker 1 (02:22:34):
Evil didn't have a good run with them.

Speaker 3 (02:22:35):
They're all infighting with themselves and
Bullet Club.

Speaker 1 (02:22:38):
No.

Speaker 3 (02:22:39):
Nothing anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:22:40):
Gabe Kidd.
Gabe Kidd's there, but he's toobusy in AEW.

Speaker 3 (02:22:43):
David Finley is I'm sorry, it's a joke about me.
Fuck, yes.

Speaker 1 (02:22:48):
Oh my god, fuck, yes, and him getting a clean win on
Brody King.
Fuck you, bro, he got a cleanwin on Brody.
King, fuck that, fuck that.

Speaker 2 (02:22:59):
I feel like what it sounds like to me is that New
Japan is going through their WWFNew Generation era right now.

Speaker 1 (02:23:08):
Yeah, they're trying to find their new stars.

Speaker 2 (02:23:16):
When they put the belt on Bret Hart and Diesel and
they was getting the worstratings they've ever seen in
their life.
Almost went out of business.

Speaker 1 (02:23:23):
Swag also never saw Diesel versus Mabel and he
should be thankful for that.
I remember watching that a lot.
You should be very thankful ofnot watching that match.
I'm going to tell you thatright now.
But we're going to tell youthat right now.
But we're going to end it offwith this Next episode.
We're finally going to talkabout these stages.
We're going to also talk aboutsome New Japan shit, but this is

(02:23:46):
another episode of the BigBrothers of Destruction podcast.
I want to thank Story forjoining us again Always a
pleasure.
Last time the camera issue Kindof fucked shit up.
Now we can see him that.
Yeah, last time we had a cameraissue, but we're here.
But Also thanks Swag For comingby as well, because it's our
first time Actually doing a Agroup setting too.
But we will be back next time.

(02:24:08):
Where the questions are crazy,the ring is sacred, but it's
always destruction.
I know I fucked that up, butanyway it's.

Speaker 2 (02:24:18):
Tommaso Cuth, it's your boy.
Swag Switcher in the building.

Speaker 1 (02:24:22):
Story of Sorrow, and we are out Till next time.

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