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August 2, 2025 131 mins

The wrestling world stands at a crossroads in the wake of Hulk Hogan's passing at age 71. His death has thrust fans into uncomfortable territory—acknowledging his revolutionary impact on the business while reckoning with the racist statements that forever tarnished his legacy. As we navigate this complex emotional terrain, we ask: can we separate art from artist when it comes to wrestling's fallen icons?

Wrestling fandom requires this emotional dexterity—holding space for both critique and appreciation. "What Hulk Hogan did can be forgiven if he took accountability," we reflect. "But we can forgive without forgetting." This nuanced perspective defines modern wrestling appreciation, where heroes inevitably reveal their humanity, sometimes in devastating ways.

Against this backdrop of reflection, SummerSlam approaches with a card that surprisingly outshines WrestleMania's lackluster offering earlier this year. John Cena's heel turn remains divisive—brilliantly executed in its initial moment but struggling to find direction since. Meanwhile, Jelly Roll has impressed everyone with his dedication, canceling concerts to train properly and achieving his lowest weight since middle school for his WWE debut alongside Randy Orton.

The women's division takes center stage with multiple compelling storylines, from Jade Cargill's championship pursuit to Naomi's title defense. Roman Reigns' return alongside Jey Uso presents another layer to the ever-evolving Bloodline saga. We break down every match with predictions that spark passionate debate—exactly what makes wrestling discourse so engaging.

Whether you're watching for the in-ring action, following the storytelling developments, or simply hoping for surprising returns (Britt Baker, anyone?), join us as we analyze wrestling's present while acknowledging its complicated past. And if you're in the area for SummerSlam, our door is open—because wrestling is always better experienced together.

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
welcome everybody to another episode of the big
brothers of destruction podcast.
It's the masako it's your boyswas which in the building and
uh, guys, we have to uh, startthis episode off with the faint
of heart, for those with thefaint of heart or mourning, as,

(00:31):
uh, we have had the tragic newsof an icon, a legend in the
industry, passing away at theage of 71, and that is hulk
hogan.
Um, despite what you may sayabout him and his, you know what
he said to hurt many people inthe black community and other

(00:54):
people in general, and what he'sdone in this industry.
Least acknowledge who he was tothe business.
And uh, we, we obviously willacknowledge the things that he
has done.
But, uh, on this podcast atthis moment, we're going to
acknowledge him and what he hascontributed to the business,

(01:14):
because if it wasn't for him, weprobably wouldn't be in this
podcast and there's a lot ofpeople in the industry who
wouldn't be doing what they'redoing.
So, um, swag getting the news.
Um, I was actually on a worktrip and, uh, scrolling through
my phone and my good old buddyvon sent me the message saying
hey, hogan passed away, and atfirst I said no like, looking at

(01:40):
my phone and yeah, 71, uh,unfortunately from a heart
attack.
So where were you when you gotthe information?

Speaker 2 (01:54):
I was at work and I think I may have caught it like
literally, as because tmz wasthe one who was kind of sort of
like jumped on it, like on theASAP, but I was at work and with
my job I work at hospitals andso I go in and out of different

(02:15):
patients' rooms and hospitals,you know, taking care of stuff.
And I just so happened to walkinto the room and as I'm walking
into the room and it was funnybecause there was no one in
there at the room and as I'mwalking into the room and it was
funny because there was no onein there at the time, I walk in
and I see the TV and it's likeHulk Hogan died, kari Akaris da,
da, da da.

(02:35):
I was like wait what?
And I just kind of stood therefor a moment in this random
person's room looking at this tv.
While I'm standing there, Iguess the person whose room it
was in their family.
They walked in and they'relooking at me with, like my work
stuff in hand, and they'relooking at me and they're

(02:59):
looking at the tv and I'm justand they're all like the
customers are all like all likeoh hi, can we help you with
anything?
I'm just, you know, doing myjob, but I just had to, just had
to stop for a moment.
Hulk Hogan died and they alllike what he died, what they
were all surprised.
And then I'm just like, I didmy job.

(03:22):
It got out of the room and itwas like and as I do that, I
check the wrestling chat that wehave I did my job.
It got out of the room and, asI do that, I check the wrestling
chat that we have, and at thetime I think it had.
So they said that peoplestarted posting about it, or

(03:45):
like around like 11 o'clock,which was the earliest I saw it
in the wrestling chat.
So I literally looked in thewrestling chat, probably about
an hour after anyone in the chatsaid something about it, and so
, like I literally like, justkind of, was like wow, that's
crazy.
And then, uh, I went to.
I remember I went to anotherroom and there was a guy in
there and, uh, he spoke to meand I was just like, yeah, he's

(04:06):
like how's your heart?
He's like he's like how's yourday?
I was like, I mean, my day'sall right.
Just just, the process is somecrazy news.
I don't know if you saw, butapparently Hulk Hogan passed
away.
He's all like, well, he sat upout of his bed and then we kind

(04:26):
of talked about wrestling for alittle bit, promoted the you
know shameless plug, and then,uh, did my job and went about my
business.
But it was like, uh, it wassuper, it was uh, it was
surprising, as any death wouldbe, and it came as far as what I
saw, kind of out of nowhere,because I want to say maybe

(04:48):
about like, I would say eitherlike a month or like a month and
a half ago.
I'm scrolling on my phone andthen, like, I see something says
about like which as at thispoint I looked it up and saw
that this was being, this wasthe rumor that was going around,
the fact that, like, he wasapparently on his deathbed and

(05:10):
this was like about almost twomonths ago, and oh, okay, I
think I know what you're talkingabout.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, this is like right after the announcement of
his wrestling promotion, hestarted working with arab bishop
.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
So I was like I saw I heard the post about like he
was apparently on his deathbed.
I'm like really, and I I had to.
I checked the source and thewebsite felt kind of unreliable.
And then I went to google and Ityped in hulk hogan on deathbed
and nothing actually reallycame up.
So I was all like he's beenlying man.

(05:45):
Look at the little guy here.
I completely wrote it off.
I just went on about my day andpaid no mind to anything and
whatever was whole coke.
I just went on.
Then, when this happened, I waslike, was that shit true?

(06:06):
As of right now, it's still veryhush-hush exactly what may or
may not have.
I've you know, from some of thepodcasts I've seen and whatnot
of other people talking about it, they believe the fact that you
know know he was because he hadsome surgery go down.

(06:27):
He died from a heart attack.
Well, well, well, it's like,but what?
But what caused the extra bitwas the fact that, or allegedly
I don't know for sure but peoplewere saying the fact that he,
he had back surgery recently.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Oh, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
And ever since the back and neck surgery, ever
since that surgery happened, hewasn't recovering correctly
apparently.
Now, of course, this is allhearsay, because no one has
actually spoke up and said whatthe true dealio was.
Because no one has actuallyspoke up and said what the true

(07:06):
dealio was, because, you know,one guy said Hulk Hogan's not
his deathbed, but then you know,we got Jimmy Hart saying oh,
the Hulkster's fine, two daysbefore he dies.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
But that's also a thing you know.
With just society you don'twant to worry people, you know
what I'm saying.
Like you don't want to be thehonest.
You want to get the honesttruth.
Like, say, if he really knewwhat host condition was and he
was just trying to, you know,get media and news away from him
because, yeah, when you'retrying to heal, everybody's
trying to find out like, oh,you're on your deathbed, media
is going to storm on that, right, content is going to be made on

(07:41):
that and that's, I mean, shit.
You literally can see it fromhis death.
There's nothing but memes,there's nothing but videos.
There's everybody talking abouthis passing.
Is is a double-edged sword.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
That's what it literally is the double-edged
sword now, as far as with whatyou're saying about, um, well,
before I touch on that bit, theinitial bit about you saying
that the privacy aspect of itwhether he was actually on his

(08:14):
deathbed but we didn't wantpeople to worry about him, kind
of thing I definitely get that.
But also, at the same time, hevery well could have been A-okay
and then all of a sudden andthat was it true like that was
like freaking.
I know that happened to mygrandfather.
I literally back to like whatwas it?

(08:37):
He took me to summer camp thatmorning and then went home and
had a heart attack sitting inthe chair, kind of thing.
And so it's like just, and likeI said he was up walking around
like nothing was wrong.
So it's like it's a thing.
I've literally have texts as amatter of fact.

(08:58):
You know, uh, you know, our,our, uh, our big boy boykin.
Like I remember two days beforehe passed, I was sending him a
text message like hey, how youdoing?
And he was all like I'm doingbetter.
You know, like breathing'sgetting good, da-da-da-da, you
know.
And he was like, yeah, I'mpretty okay.
We swapped like some memes realquick and then he went radio

(09:20):
silent for that time and thatwas the last conversation we had
, because then the next, after acouple of days later, I get the
call.
So it was like anything and youknow we just tell you well,
it's your time to go, it's yourtime to go.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
I mean, that's how my mom always said it too.
If it's my time, it's my time.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
But now the thing that you're the other piece that
you brought up about the waypeople are like they, they
almost don't even want to talkabout it because they're because
of what people might perceiveof them, kind of thing.
Or you know, I this, this pastweekend I went to texas, uh, and

(10:19):
you know, and I spoke about ita couple of times to different
people and whatnot, and evenbefore that, just talking about
it with different people, andit's like maybe it's my, maybe
I'm overly forgiving, or maybethere's just certain things I

(10:39):
don't look so deeply into asothers do, or I'm willing to
give somebody a benefit of adoubt to a certain extent, you
know, hold them accountable forwhat they did, but at the same
time, like you know, there's,there are people out there who

(11:00):
we really loved and respected,and now you know they did
something crazy off the wall,and now we're like and then
there are some folk who actuallystill cite them after that.
But, however it may be, it'slike anytime I would say
something.
I was, I found myself in aninteresting situation where I
would like say something goodand then immediately get told

(11:22):
the opposite of why what thatwas that I said was good was
actually not it kind of thing,you know, like I would give my
hot take and then they'd be alllike, I see, see, the thing is,
though, there was this, this,this, this and this, this, this
and the other, and it's justlike man, wow, we really out

(11:44):
here.
We don't want to give themnothing, okay, hey, but at the
end of the day, you know, and toeveryone who was watching, like
, yes, there is a lot ofnegative that he has done and,

(12:06):
for all intents and purposes,because of that negative, the
bit of good that he did do hasbeen completely tarnished for
eternity type thing.
But then it comes down to thatwhole fact of like, do we look

(12:30):
at the Terryry valet side of itor do we just focus on the, the
hulk hogan bits of it?
Because, granted, it nevernecessarily hurt my feelings
about him doing the whole N-wordthing.
It's a terrible thing that hedid and whatnot it's really bad,
but there's a lot of wrestlerswho have said some really bad

(12:53):
things.
You know what I'm saying and sobut it was like though it's bad
and he did a really horriblejob and did not.
You know, he didn't say sorryand then proceed to be a better
person after, as, like, withthat tarnish on his name and

(13:16):
that tarnishment on his legacythat he pretty much did for
himself, it's like people havedecided to he pretty much did
for himself.
It's like people have decidedto completely just hone in and
focus on that instead of thefact that wrestling would not be

(13:37):
wrestling if he did not do thethings that he did along with
Vince McMahon, Because VinceMcMahon also played a pretty big
part of that but still prettybig part of that, but still a
part of that.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
I know everybody is very cross like, yes, what he
has done for the WWF era, youknow, we wouldn't be where we
are today with wrestling rightand even when you know the NWO
that hyped WWE up to create anattitude era, to bring attitude
and to do things like that, anda lot of that influence was

(14:10):
because of what was hogan wasdoing.
But, um, I think devon said itbest, as he's a man of faith, um
, and he kind of spoke it.
You know, as for someone who isa man of faith, you have to
always remember to be able toforgive.
If you cannot forgive, then bythe time you are going up to the
upper room, you know you're,you are being punished for that.

(14:33):
I feel like I could say it bestwith justice, this statement
alone, alone, what Hulk Hogandid and what Hulk Hogan said,
can be forgiven if he tookaccountability.
But we can forgive, but wecan't forget.

(14:59):
We shouldn't forget, youshouldn't forget, but we can
forgive.
Yeah, and there's.
We shouldn't forget, youshouldn't forget, but we can't
forgive.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Um, yeah, and there'll, and there's going to
be folks out there who are goingto be all like you know, like I
can't forgive them.
You know he dropped saying suchthings with the N word and blah
, blah, blah.
But it's like it is to a pointwhere it's like you gotta look
at like how we, you gotta lookat like how a lot of people

(15:30):
kinda looked at the whole.
I don't know why this will, butyou gotta look at like how we
look at R Kelly nowadays.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, it's separating the art from the artist.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
You kinda have to Now to now, of course, you know
then, because the other abovelike is about is the whole fact
of like.
Yeah, but hulk holden, he was,you know, he was told him, he
was, you know, but he betrayedhis friends, he, he was, you
know, holding people back andholding people down and this,
that and the other.
That's not going to work for me, brother, kind of stuff.

(16:09):
Do you say that?
Also wearing a Macho man shirt,I do.
This is the closest thing toHulk Hogan.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Y'all going to get after me?
Oh shit, yeah, I don't got nofucking merch, I'm not wearing
no fucking Hulk shirt.
But there's a lot of people whowho you know, everybody has
said their two cents.
I mean, chelsea green had todeactivate her social media
because she was on a uh um, anew show and they were asking
her comments about him.

(16:38):
And she tried to keep itprofessional, keep it company
friendly, and just said, hey,you know to who he is.
It's unfortunate this is not,and kept it very professional.
And social media said fuck youfor that.
You were supposed to talk abouthis racism, you're supposed to
talk about this and it'sunfortunate that we are in an

(17:00):
era where, yes, even yes, wecould keep accountability for
that.
But, like, if you are in aprofessional standpoint, like in
a news, like interview, I'm notgonna cause controversy.
I'm not gonna cause controversy.
It's not the right place to.
If she would have said it inher own platform, maybe, but in

(17:25):
a platform that is notnecessarily her place to do and
to cause an issue that's notprofessional and she's thinking
about her career at the end ofthe day, and because of that she
had to, you know, deactivateher social media because the
fans just weren't a fan of that.

(17:45):
And same thing even happened to,um, oh, devon dudley as well.
I mean he, like I said before,when he was, uh, doing his
episode, um, he was talkingabout how, you know, hulk hogan
revitalized his career twice,first time in tna, um, when he,

(18:06):
you know, lost a lot of weightand got in shape and everything.
Tna was like yo, we're donewith D-Lon, we don't see
anything out of him.
He says, dude, he got in shape,he's looking great.
You know, let's give himsomething.
And they gave him the Legendstitle, you know.
And then you know he was tryingto renew his contract and all

(18:30):
this kind of stuff.
And then they brought him backfor aces and eights and devon
was like, if it wasn't for hogan, I I've been out of job for a
little bit and you know he'slike I called hogan out on
everything too, like everybodyis being called out on it.
Mark henry said fuck hulk hoganand uh, in a fucking dj set.
I don't know if you saw that.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Oh yeah, that was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, he says in the honorable words of Iron Sheik
fuck the Hulk Hogan.
And you know everybody's sayingrested, pissed, rested shit,
like just everything.
And it's just like I thinkKevin Nash even said.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Kevin Nash even said man, like his family's grieving
right now, like give him thatspace, you know, listen, that's
the part that gets me, becauseit's like it is and I feel as if
that's where a lot of peopleare missing the mark.
You know what I'm saying?
Because, as especially with itcomes to relate to the whole
racism part, because, you know,racism happens through hate,

(19:26):
kind of all right, and I'mguessing everyone's taking that
malcolm x approach to it all andis giving hate with hate, as
opposed to being the betterperson and doing the martin
luther king aspect of it all isall like.
Sure, let's say we go with thefact that he's racist.

(19:50):
Okay, he may have been racist,but I'm not going to do that.
I'm going to, I'm gonna come atit with the kindness I'm gonna
come at it with, but but noone's hearing that right now.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
No one wants no one wants to hear nobody's hearing
the martin luther king on theirshoulder.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
You know what I'm saying, like, because as long as
that's happening, that's whyracism is going to continue,
type thing, and so but like Ithink, uh, because I listened to
actually I actually listened tokevin nash and I ain't gonna
lie like here listen to kevinnash's podcast about it was

(20:32):
slightly emotional.
I was like, damn, because,because it's like one of those
things where that was, you know,hulk hogan, whether or not he
was racist or however it may be,he was somebody's friend,
somebody's daddy, he wassomebody's husband, and those
people are hurting heavy rightnow.

(20:53):
And in my mind I'm like, can weat least for Jimmy Hart's sake,
if we're not going to do it forMartin Luther King, who died
fighting to try and stop thehate, you know, at least for
Jimmy Hart, for just a briefmoment, be all I ailed as we get
it, mourn your boy.

(21:14):
You know what I'm saying.
Like people don't want to dothat.
People don't want to do it Didyou hear about?

Speaker 1 (21:23):
they're saying that Brooke Hogan wanted nothing to
do with his estate and what heleft behind too.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
So that was an interesting bit as a matter of
fact.
So I think, for those who arelistening and want to hear, as
far as other podcasts that we'dlike to listen to I really like
listening because he's hilarious, but JD of New York.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I thought you were about to say Jim Cornette.
Because Matt loves Jim Cornette, bro, I listen to Jim Cornette
too.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
I actually didn't get a chance to.
Really I didn't finishlistening to his spill about
Hulk Hogan.
But JD, he did and I reallylike how he did it.
He did a whole thing, talkedabout hulk hogan and stuff like
that and he like he went to likethe deep history and there was
some stuff that I did not know,like hulk hogan and his daughter

(22:18):
, they actually had like areally big falling out, to the
point where, like literally,hulk Hogan never met his
grandkids because of thatfalling out.
Oh yeah, it was really.
There was like a really big,which probably also makes sense
why there was that whole dealwith literally the whole race,

(22:42):
that shit that popped up, yeah,yeah yeah, that makes sense and
so as like she kind of literallythe whole race of shit that
popped up, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That makes sense, man, thatmakes sense.
And so as, like she kind ofsort of tried but it just wasn't
working and so it was like they, almost up to his dying day,
they never really completely,you know like forgave and got
over what their you know theirlittle bit of situation.

(23:04):
But, like I know, what I haveheard and saw mostly heard was
the fact that she is apparentlyat peace with everything,
because the last time she didtalk to him it was a decent
conversation and she did get thesit-bate, she loved him when

(23:28):
all that went down, which, funnyenough, I think they said the
fact that the last time shetalked to him she called him out
of concern Because I guess hishealth had been declining.
But he's doing all of thisstuff and she's all like Dad,
dad, you should probably take iteasy, but you know Hulk Hogan's
gonna Hulk Hogan type situationand so like that's what pretty

(23:52):
much like the basis of thatconversation was.
But like you know, but yeah,they apparently have like a
whole falling out situation.
But like the stuff that JV theNew Yorker is, what his YouTube
is, the stuff that JV the NewYorker is, what his YouTube is,
the stuff that he said, I'm likeit was very nicely said and

(24:13):
then another podcast that Iwould say that also kind of
wrapped and said things in anice pretty bow and I kind of
actually said something thatthey kind of like put out.
There was Rustle Talk.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Okay, yeah, rustle Talk yes.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
And it was like Rustle Talk.
They was like there's, thereare four different versions of
Hulk Hogan.
There's Hulk Hogan who we sawon TV and doing the Make-A-Wish
and doing all those things.
Then there is Hulk Hogan, thepolitician who politics

(24:52):
backstage and that's not what'sgoing to work for me, brother.
Then there's Terry Vallejo, whoruined and tarnished the image
of Hulk Hogan, and then there isnumber four, the Hulk Hogan
that Hulk Hogan thought was HulkHogan.

(25:12):
Oh yeah, the myth, the myth, thelegend that is Hulk Hogan, and
to kind of push a little forwardwith everything, at the end of
the day we get it.
Hulk Hogan did some shittythings.
He said some shitty things andhe pooped on himself as far as

(25:37):
his legacy and all the good thatcould have come from it.
He did that.
Sure, hulk Hogan politicked anddid what he could to get his
backstage and make sure that hecould put bread on his table and
money in his pocket, whether itwas at the expense of friends

(26:01):
or whatever.
It might be young talent, etc.
But I almost don't want to faulthim for that, because that was
all 80s wrestlers.
Yes, old time, that's just atrait that old timers had.
Either I'm stepping on you andI'm getting mine, or I'll bring

(26:25):
you up here with me, but youbetter be ready to help me make
money, because at the end of theday it's just business and so.
But I feel the universe hasdone enough talking about all of

(26:46):
those versions of Hulk Hogan,to the point where I feel that,
as people of color and brothersin Christ here, I think we can
just talk about the immortalHulk Hogan that we used to like

(27:07):
playing in the video games andthat we saw had that amazing
match with the Rock.
Oh yeah, he picked up Andre theGiant and slammed him on the
ground.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Which wasn't his first time.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Let's be real.
But listen, it wasn't his firsttime.
But you also have to rememberhow well, nowadays it's a little
weird, but back in the day,what happened in one company
only matters in that company.
You're right, everything elseis in canon.
You know, that's the differenceshow.
Just like how I think and thisis a random cut, but I think

(27:48):
what was that?
I think, uh, um, duck tales andum uh, what was the other one?

Speaker 1 (27:56):
I said where you going with this now it's because
of the fact that.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
So uh, in duck tales you know the guy, guy who used
to fly the planes.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, I can't remember his name right now, but
I know you're talking about him.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, his name is escaping my head right now, but
like he was in two differentshows, he was in DuckTales and
he was in um- Uh, tailspin,tailspin, Was it Tailspin?
No, no, it wasn't Tailspin oh.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Darkwing Duck, there you go.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
He was in both of those shows.
However, those two shows andthe original run of them not
canon to each other?
Nope, they were not canon toeach other.
Hulk Hogan slammed him in anon-canon show multiple times as

(28:55):
well, as other people had didthe same thing, but in WWF, hulk
Hogan did it first and so Well,let's go ahead and talk about
this wrestling business, becausewe do have pay-per-view or PLE

(29:20):
coming up.
Which is man?
I still call them pay-per-views.
Somebody still got to pay fortape, someone still has to pay
to view them, pay-per-views orpay-per-views, whatever you want
to call them, bles.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Premium live events, but we do have SummerSlam coming
up, which, if you wanted tocome by, you're more than
welcome to invite it.
It's going to be Matt Good oldMatt is going.
If you wanted to come by,you're more than welcome invited
.
Uh, it's gonna be.
Uh, matt good old matt is gonnabe back.
Um, uh, sorry, it's gonna beback.
And then, uh, my boy, nuki'sgonna be over here too, so

(29:56):
you're more than welcome to comeby and hang out with us while
we all watch as well.
And um, speaking of which, whenit comes to this card, though,
what's this card looking like?
I know I've seen it a couple oftimes.
I know I've seen it.
I ain't gonna lie.
Nothing is truly exciting meabout this card, but maybe it's
because I haven't ran down thefinal version of it.

(30:17):
So let's go over that realquick.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
I believe this now because, as we are doing this,
smackdown will be technicallyhappening tonight as we're
recording this, yeah, and so itwas like you know how they like
to just add extra things just to, honestly, in my opinion, to

(30:44):
fuck with me or to make us beall like hi, you should have
waited till uh, till aftersmackdown to record your podcast
, because there's a match you'renot gonna have to talk about
well, um prediction wise, are wealso throwing our predictions?

Speaker 1 (31:01):
oh yeah, that's what this is for okay, okay, just
making sure we're not talkingabout it.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (31:05):
we're throwing out predictions too oh yeah, I mean
we could talk about it and throwout the predictions and the one
thing that I am going to say,comparably speaking, I feel like
well, actually I can't even saythat, but like this, this card

(31:27):
and the build up for this to mewas kind of better than
Wrestlemania, I'll be honest,and they didn't even have a
whole lot of time to build,which is a problem, but you know
, I feel like this card alone tome head over heels better than

(31:47):
what Russ LeMay's card was.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
That's crazy.
Speak on it, as Trick Williamsliked to say, let's talk about
it, let's talk about it.
I ain't going to lie, man, Iwas not a super Trick fan, but
man, with him and his TNA title,bro, I'm like Trick and A, is
this shit popping?
I actually don't want to end notitle soon.

(32:11):
Let's keep this shit going bro,let's talk about it.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
let me put it this one thing that I observed from
watching TNA and NXT, trickWilliams and I kind of like how
this has just kind of been athing.
From watching TNA in NXT, trickWilliams and I kind of like how
this has just kind of been athing, but they don't really
talk about it.
But it's like this man has twodifferent crews on the different

(32:39):
brands.
When he's in NXT he's got, ohmy goodness, what do they call
themselves?
But it's three of them.
Goddamn, javon Evans literallyjust got that fight in his ass.
Oh my goodness.
But see, now I'm going to haveto look it up because for some

(32:59):
reason it is Drawing a blankLiterally.
For some reason it is literally.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
But top flight or not top flight, that's AEW.
What's the one in TNA?
Hold on as Swag pulls up typingup a storm.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Okay, there we go, that's what I needed.
Wesley, there it is.
So when he's in NXT, he's withWesley and his little crew that
he has, and so that is when he'sat NXT.
When he goes to TNA, he's gotFirst Class, which is AJ Francis

(33:45):
, and that one other dude whosename always escapes me, I
haven't completely.
I saw a picture where someonecalled him SA Rios once.
I was like why, that's crazy.
It was literally a picture ofhim when he got put through the
ladder at their pay-per-view.

(34:07):
Yo, yes, yes, yes.
And they was all like, hey, yo,why the guy SA Rios out here
still wrestling?
I'm like wow.
First off, deep cut, becausewho out here talking about SA
Rios still or even remembers SARios, which they get points for
at least remembering him, damn.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Nah, it's still a violation, though, because I saw
that photo too and I was like,damn, that's crazy.
Y'all ain't gonna do that shitto homie.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Well, yeah, he literally has two different
groups who got his back on thetwo respected brands, and so
it's great, it's been fun.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
I just mean Heeltrick , but let's go back to his car.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
People like Trick way too much to just accept.
Heeltrick is John Cena rightnow, but I would prefer.
I prefer Heeltrick better.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
I prefer Heeltrick better too.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
He better stay at heel.
I don't want him to be ababyface.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
As I've said before and I'll say it again this John
Cena heel turn has fallenabsolutely flat and it's not
doing anything.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Let's see what happens at SummerSlam.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Okay, let's give it another try at SummerSlam bro,
bro, I'm telling you right now,and you know what, since you
want to say that we will startat the bottom, I was going to
start at the bottom and work ourway up to this, but we're here
now John Cena versus Cody Rhodesin a street fight.
Okay, I'm going to be honestwith you.

(35:49):
I got no faith in this match.
I don't care and that's crazy,because I love Cody Rhodes, but
it's like it's a predictablematch, bro.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
It's so predictable, well kind of.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
So when you you say that, what are your predictions?

Speaker 1 (36:08):
for this.
Cody's winning as much as Iwant cena to keep this belt.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Cody's winning now let's say, cody wins what next?

Speaker 1 (36:27):
I know, but like Cena's, not like to me, I don't
think Cena's winning becauseokay if he, if Cody loses, right
then what now for Cody?

Speaker 2 (36:39):
it's the same thing either side so Cody wins, beats
john cena, all that technicallydoes is set up for a rubber
match that we never got withjohn cena in the rock, but

(37:01):
who's's counting?
And they have to have that onelast fight Kind of thing.
And if that is the case, thatmeans the one last fight is
going to be on Survivor Series,war Games and so.
But then it's like what was whywhen?

(37:25):
Now, on the flip side, if johncena whips, are we just gonna
say that he's just gonna rideoff into the sunset with the
title and and that's what I want.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
I want it.
I want to see what the fuckthey would do, because it's like
there's so much interesting,like what happens.
You know what I'm saying?
That's the part that gets me.
It's like, okay, what happensif he actually walks away with
the title?
That's the interesting part.
See, I wish it was interesting,but it's not because you don't

(38:00):
care about the run, you don'tcare about this, uh, this the
turn well, see, that's theproblem.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I did, I wanted to.
I've tried, brother, I havetried, but they have done
nothing.
I will say they with CM Punk.
I will at least say that theykinda peaked interest a little

(38:30):
bit, cause if we look down thisline right now, okay, you know,
the first heel turn happens andthis John Cena that we get out
of, you know the rock doing hislittle and all this other stuff

(38:50):
is we pretty much get, you know,cry baby Cena talking about how
he's been used and abused, andnow he's going to ruin wrestling
.
Cool, all right, using the,that's, that's, that's what we
get from that.
And then he gets the belt, andthen he's still kind of sort of

(39:10):
wanting to ruin wrestling, butnow he's just trying to show
himself.
As you know, I'm doing this forme and I'm taking the belt
because I'm the only realchampion.
And then we get the Randy Ortonstuff and it was, eh, you know,

(39:39):
like the buildup going intoRandy Orton fighting for the
title was.
It was, eh.
I mean, the only reason why itwas kind of cool is because,
well, randy Orton himself iskind of cool, but Randy Orton
can only drag this heel.
John Cena.
So long, so far, so hard, okay.
And then after that we get thekerfuffle with R-Truth, which

(40:07):
went nowhere, which brought backRon Killings to do absolutely
nothing, absolutely nothing, andso maybe we'll see him in the
street fight, because if they do, that's maybe that'llique my
interest a bit.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
What do you mean?
Is it him interfering it?

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yes, because, as far as I'm concerned with everything
that R-Truth did not truly gethis lick back on John Cena.
As a matter of fact, when himand John Cena had their match
again, that's when we got thatDumbass pipe bomb.
You know what the fuck man?

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Yeah, hit that Scott Hall, you know fucking Never do
that again in your life.
You've never seen Scott Hall dothat shit.
No, I mean, it's the way yousaid it, ooh.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it was like so that happensOnce again.
The fact that we're just goingto act like Ron Killings has
nothing to do with John Cenastill just goes to show how much
of a like.
I can't wait, I guess, toactually watch the whole like

(41:32):
backstage shit about like youknow what's happening backstage
on this John Cena heel turncause it's.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
I don't think Unreal shows anything.
Maybe they shouldn't, becauselord knows it's.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
I don't think Unreal shows anything.
Maybe they should, because lordknows it's bad like it's.
So you're saying you think JohnCena is winning there's a part
of me that thinks so I hate it,like I feel, like I almost feel
like old me now because I'm likeman.

(42:05):
I really hope John Cena, johnStanton, doesn't win this year,
and because I don't want him towin is the exact reason why he's
probably going to win this time.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
You know what I might retract my statement.
Okay, only because when youbrought up the point of okay, so
if Cody wins, then what?
And it's like you know what youare right, then what cause?

Speaker 2 (42:35):
like now, let me clarify this is if Cody wins,
then what in the regard of whatthe fuck are we going to do
about John Cena now?

Speaker 1 (42:45):
okay, yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah, that's why I'm like damn, you got a point,
because he's got like 10 moreappearances left, like what is
he going to lose?
And be all like.
You know what you guys, maybe Iwas right.
You were right, maybe, maybe,maybe, maybe I was wrong about

(43:07):
not liking you guys.
You know what I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Should we go on that date again?

Speaker 2 (43:12):
I take back everything that I said yeah, I
take back everything I said.
I love you people Hustleloyalty and respect.
And his name is John Cena.
As john cena like, or becauseI've heard some interesting you
know banter about, like withcody winning, you know what, if

(43:35):
cody rhodes actually uh,actually does sell his soul and
and the rock comes out there andlooks at cody and gives the and
then he betrays and does theheel turn on John Cena to make
John Cena become the good personnow, because that's how that

(43:57):
works.
But the thing about it is adouble turn.
Yeah, you turn a heel with aworser heel.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
But the double turn.
It has to be organic.
You can't do that.
Cena, going back face is goingto be like, well, yes, his last
10 appearances, of course, aregoing to make him a face.
And then what you do is hislast match.
It's his last opportunity totake the belt off of heel Cody.

(44:25):
He's like the top merch sellerright now, just like how like
WWE was like with Cena years agoand not making him a heel.
That'd be stupid to make Cody aheel.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
See here's the thing because when you bring that up,
right, that's what should havehappened years ago.
Yeah, john Cena turning heelright now was that's what should
have happened years ago.
Yeah, john Cena turning heelright now was.
In my opinion, in long term, Ifeel like it's been a bad move

(44:59):
Because they fumbled the bill.
Now I will easily admit theinitial heel turn the the day of
the turn okay, that wasbeautifully executed.
Absolutely I.

(45:20):
I would, without research, Iwould almost agree with people
of saying that it could be thesecond greatest heel turn of all
time across all wrestling.
It potentially could be.

(45:42):
And that's me, without doingthe research.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Hold on what the fuck is the best one, then Hulk.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Hogan bro.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Nah.
Oh really, you're going to sithere and say, hulk Hogan, I do
not feel like that was the bestheel turn ever, because it was
just like the build up forHogan's heel turn.
It didn't hit as hard as it didfor fucking Cena Because, like
it's.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Oh.
So you're trying to say thatthe Cena heel turn is better
than Hulk Hogan going to the NWO?

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Yeah, because like the cinematic behind it, it was
like it was so much morecompared to.
It was like, ok, hulk's comingin here, leg drop.
And it's like, oh my God, youknow what I'm saying.
Leg drop, and he cuts the promo.
Yes, good promo.
But the whole Cena situation islike you didn't see it coming.

(46:40):
You absolutely did not see itcoming.
Not saying you couldn't see itcoming with Hogan, but like it
was the biggest fucking swerveever.
And so you see him hugging, yousee him do the thing, and then
you see his face, the face alone, set ablaze.

(47:00):
And then also you see this youknow that the whole arena,
everybody in their homes,everybody anywhere in this world
, flipped a bitch because younever thought you would see the
day.
But with Hogan it still hitsthe same.

(47:23):
But I just don't think it,maybe because I wasn't watching
WCW.
That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
I don't think it's I mean, but here's the thing I
don't give a fuck.
I don't give a fuck.
It's because you weren't there.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
I don't give a fuck.
I still feel like Cena's turnwas better.
I'm still standing on that.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
I'm standing on that and I will allow you to be wrong
.
It's cool.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Wow.
So you feel like in your heartsof hearts that Hogan's heel
turn was better.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Absolutely Okay it was, and then the heel turn was
better and the run was flawless.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
I'll give you that.
Okay, so if you count that,then yeah, his was a better heel
turn.
If you are counting that, ifyou are counting that.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
I'm counting all the above brother.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Oh fuck off.
Anyway, next match.
We know it's Cena.
Go to the fucking next match.
Fuck out of here with this shit.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
And trust me, I ain't saying it because I love the
guy ring, you know.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Don't give a fuck you wearing a Macho man shirt.
We know that's not the case.
Nigga, Go to the next match.
We know that's not the case.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
It should have been macho man.
But uh, women's match Tiffanyversus Jade Cargill, yeah, and
if I'm not mistaken, uh, hold on, or maybe I am mistaken, okay,

(49:15):
yeah, so I'm not going to lieLike the.
Yeah, it's going to be shit.
Come on man.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Like it's not Tiffany , because then unless the only
way it wouldn't happen is if, um, you know Naomi interferes, but
like Naomi's got her own shitto deal with that night, so like
why would she do that?
Because she's petty and youshould proceed with caution.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
That's the only like going into this whole thing,
like there's a part of me thathonestly feels that she would.
But the only reason why so, Iwould say the only reason why it

(50:06):
happens is if Naomi loses.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
So you're saying her match has to go first?

Speaker 2 (50:16):
It has to.
Naomi has to lose her title forher to get involved with Jade
Cardio's match, to cost her thematch.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
But here's the thing.
Then that means Naomi is atransitional champion and she
does not deserve that.
So I'm going to say no to that.
I'm going to say Naomi wins.
And you know how I'm going tosay Naomi wins.
We're just going to cross thesetwo matches out right now.
Naomi wins because Io and Rheakeep this shit going, Okay, and

(50:48):
as you saw from that promo, shesaid whatever the fuck you just
said.
I don't know what you just said.
She's all out of the situation.
It's an EO and Ripley situationand Naomi will take the dub.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
As an advocate of chaos and looking down the
long-nosed barrel of this wholesituation, because what you said
makes sense.
But I think it's going to beStephanie Valtier and Aria

(51:22):
Ripley at the next pay-per-view,the Clash, and whoever it is,
where are they?
Where does the Clash happen?

Speaker 1 (51:35):
It's like, yeah, paris, yeah, clash, and Paris
First off, fuck no, if they dothat right now, that's wasting
WrestleMania money, that's amania match.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Oh those two facing each other money, that's a mania
match.
Oh, those two facing each other, that's a mania match tell me
it's not.
I mean, you could also say yoand uh and real rip, it is a
mania match you could.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
You could, especially with the story now.
But I feel like they would beburning a candle too quick or
burning the opportunity tooquick if they just throw it at
this Technically not randompay-per-view, but it's not a
major pay-per-view.
Does that make sense?
You're wrong.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Summer Slam is literally one of the big four
pay-per-views.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
No, you're talking about Rhea Ripley and Stephanie
solo.
You're talking about the solomatch.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Oh, that's what you're referring to.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought that's what you were
referring to, because it leadsto Paris, where they would go
against each other.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
I thought you were just saying, the fact of Rhea
getting the belt in thatparticular aspect being the one
that goes forward into that.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Yeah, because I would say you would save that for a
major event, because if you doit at Paris that's not a major
event, that's burning money.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
At that point to me, that's just to me, I don't know,
it's a weird spot, but, like I,that was what I thought, but at
the same time well, no, but atthe same cause, like the way
everything is set up, if Rheawas to win, she would have to be

(53:22):
, she would have to beat Naomi.
Like, whoever wins would haveto beat Naomi, whoever wins
would have to be Naomi.
They're not going to give itback to Io Skye, io Skye, though
, for damn sure nothing.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Oh no, they're not giving that back to her.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Like you know, especially since she did
absolutely nothing with the belt.
Not her fault, but it is whatit is.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
I love how you have to, not her fault.
Just emphasizing on that.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Share immediately oh, absolutely, because she could
have done plenty of great things, but instead she literally had
her match at Wrestlemania andthen defended it against Rhea
Ripley, just for it to be takenfrom Naomi.
That was literally the extentof her title run.

(54:09):
That's all she did.
But like, yeah I.
It's one of those situations inmy mind where it's like the
chaos in me wants Rhea to win ornot?
Want believes that Rhea?
Rhea to win or not.
Want believes that Rhea isgoing to win.

(54:32):
Who do you want to win?

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Say something stupid, say something fucking stupid.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
That's the problem.
I mean, who do I want to win?
What if I told you I reallydidn't want the match?

Speaker 1 (54:54):
That's valid, because I don't want Naomi to lose the
belt yet.
Like, just let this cook alittle bit longer.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
I would have rather it have actually been Naomi
versus Stephanie, or somethingyeah.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Give or take a match, yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
I don't want this triple threat for me.
I almost feel about this matchthe same way I felt about the
WrestleMania match that was had.
Yeah, with the three of them.
She's just being put in it,being put in it being put in it
and shit, yeah, put in itbecause the other two were just

(55:36):
doing the whole bitching andcomplaining thing.
Yeah, which, by the way, on theshort that you made, I think
you're funny Trying to make itsound like I didn't know what
the fuck I was talking about.
Piece of shit.
But you know it's're funnyTrying to make it sound like I
didn't know what the fuck I wastalking about.
Piece of shit.
But you know, it's all good.
It is all good.
If people can read between thelines, they understand exactly

(55:57):
what I'm talking about.
It is the fact that it didn'tneed to be a triple threat match
.
Rhea was only put into thatmatch, only put into that match
to sell tickets.
And because of that bit is thesame reason why we have this
shitty John Cena heel turn,because the Rock was only put in

(56:18):
that situation to sell moretickets, to get more people to
watch, because everyone at thetime loves the Rock.
Now, you know the Rock Now youknow the.
Rock yeah.
Tarnishing his legacy,tarnishing his legacy right now.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Fucking it up.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
I'm gonna need him to listen.
Sometimes you die a hero orlive long enough to see yourself
become a villain.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
That ain't gonna work for me, brother, lord, anyway.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
So All realness, though Naomi should take it.
Jay is obviously gonna take it.
However, if that fuck should dohappen in that Naomi match,
just remember what I said heretoday.
If that fucks should do happenin that Naomi match, just
remember what I said here today.
But after that and this one hasactually been an interesting

(57:18):
one that I've looked into RandyOrton and Jelly Roll versus.
Joey McIntyre and Logan Paul.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
It's a celebrity match Jelly.
Roll's winning so.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
I learned a bit about Jelly Roll in this process.
I actually watched StephMcMahon's little podcast thing
on accident, to be honest withyou, because Jelly Roll had
which YouTube Shorts I guessthey work sometimes where it was
a YouTube Short about JellyRoll and just so happenally, the

(57:55):
YouTube Short was Jelly Roll onthis podcast.
So I ended up listening to thepodcast and I don't listen to
Jelly Roll per se.
I don't listen to Jelly Rollper se.
However, after that podcast Imight listen to him at least one
time just to actually hear whathe's about, because Jelly Roll

(58:16):
man, he is a down-to-earthperson.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
He has an incredible story.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Oh man, he talked about that and the stuff that he
does, and he talks about thethings that he went through and
everything.
Hell, as a matter of fact, itwas almost therapeutic because
there was something that he wastalking about that I was like,
oh man, is that me?
I think I'm the same way and itmakes sense.

(58:45):
Interesting, and it makes sense, interesting, but like he is
number one, the perseverance andthen the fact that he was able
to set his mind on doing this,because Jelly Roll, he's going
the bad bunny route.
Ladies and gentlemen, jelly Roll, out here taking bumps, he's

(59:10):
been training like crazy and itall stems back to, I think, like
the first time he did something.
So it was like the first timehe did something.
He was all like, you know, hewas all like he loved it,
because he's a long, long timewrestling fan, kind of thing.
And then it was like then therewas the whole thing where he,

(59:36):
like, when he chokeslammedAustin Theory, right, he talks
about how he went back to theback and was all like Paul, how
can I get in this ring?
I want to get in the ring,could I do it?
And literally Triple H was justlike if he can drop some pounds

(59:57):
, we'll see what he can do.
We might be able to make ithappen.
He's like you promise, becauseI'm going to do it and Jelly
Roll has drooped.
He is apparently.
I forgot how much he said heoriginally was like uh, he was
like three something yes, andfor the first, well, he was more

(01:00:20):
like he was like threesomething or like high threes,
yeah, and he's saying the factthat he's been working and still
working to the point where,when he comes out here for his
match, this will be the lightesthe has been since middle school

(01:00:42):
Crazy, middle school, crazy.
This will be the first timehe's been under 300 pounds,
since he was literally a child.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
I can understand that from a guy my size too and
trying to work on that as well.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
So kudos to him and his determination right now yeah
, fam, and his determination waswas literally because he's like
triple a said that if I dropthis I can get in the ring and I
can wrestle.
And the thing is joey roll hasliterally paused income coming

(01:01:25):
into his pocket to do this.
That's crazy.
Like he literally canceledbecause you know, as an artist
you get paid when you do yourshows yeah, kind of thing From
the ticket sales and all thatother shit.
He has canceled shows to dothis.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Because it means that much to him.
I mean to be honest.
If you had the opportunity,swag would you not do it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
oh, of course, like that it's a no-brainer.
Listen wrestling.
I wanted to be a wrestler first.
It's just that music wascheaper to figure out at the
beginning.
It's become more expensivenowadays to the point where I'm
like, damn, I could have usedall this money I've spent on

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doing these tracks to get mesome tights and get in the ring.
But it is what it is.
And get in the ring, but it iswhat it is.
So Randy Orton and Jelly Rollversus Drew McIntyre, who
apparently was stuck in Englandfor a little bit because he left
his fucking passport.
I think that's a word, I don'tknow, but if it's true, it's

(01:02:42):
absolutely hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
I totally think it's a word.
Could you imagine?

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
getting stuck, not even in his home country.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
That's what I'm saying.
That's why I feel like it's awork, because it's like a part
of me feels like, okay, likeit's SummerSlam and this match
is kind of bent on you showingthe fuck up, wwe bent on you
showing the fuck up, wwe gonnamake you show the fuck up
somehow.
I mean, granted, they can'tcontrol customs and you, you

(01:03:15):
know, get through the border andanything like that, but it's
like they're gonna probably lookat you like Drew, your ass,
staying in the States untilSummerSlam.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Now, because you brought up that particular bit
here and actually hold on,something is awry, is there
something that I don't know?
What's that?
So, because I don't just,what's that?
So because I don't just, I havenot just completely memorized

(01:03:52):
what was the list.
I'm looking at this list andthere's a match that's missing,
because you're talking about thewhole, you know.
Uh, let me know, let me know,let me know, let me know, let me
know, let me know, let me know,let me know.
My double check now.
Oh, he said uh, andrew mactain,there's that one, that one,
that one, that one, that one,that one.
So because, going off the wholeidea of it being a work, what

(01:04:22):
happened to sam punk?

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
and Punk versus Gunther.
That's still happening.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
I don't see it on the list, brother.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Well, I mean, they literally just cut a promo about
it on Raw, so like they'reshowing the fuck up.
But the.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Thing that I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
I see what you're saying I see what you're saying.
Let me see.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
I think Story sent it to me actually um about gunther
the card, no, the card, thefull card, um, because he sends
me a lot of stuff sometimesbecause, because I did recently
see a video of like when, when,when CM Punk like got out of the

(01:05:08):
ring, he like, fucking, likebumped his back on the fucking
apron and people are all like,is CM Punk hurt?
And I'm like that motherfuckerbetter not be.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
I doubt that's the case.
If you think he the build upfor this match, I don't think
would be stopped from that, butI see where you're coming from.
I see where you're coming fromand you're concerned, but that
match is still supposed tohappen, to my knowledge okay,

(01:05:48):
I'm believing, that match isstill supposed to happen to my
knowledge.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Okay, I'm believing.
Okay, all right, they just forsome reason didn't have it on
the card.
For some reason.
Yeah, they said fuck youApparently.
So yeah, they said fuck youApparently.
So Listen I.
They said they heard youtalking shit.

(01:06:13):
Well, since it wasn't on thecard and I brought it up, do you
think Seth Rollins is going toshow up?

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
I feel like it'll be really interesting, because we
want to make sure he's healthy,we want to make sure he's okay,
we want to make sure he's notactively injured.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Do you think it's a work?

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
I don't think it is, but I hope it is, because that
way I know he's still healthy.
But at the same time, with theway that they're pushing braun
to be like I run this shit nowyou're not even giving the
chance for it to build up likeevolution and you know, doing

(01:07:09):
the whole thumbs down shit orwhatever, like you know, batista
did.
So it's kind of difficult tosay that because you, we never
got it, we never gave it achance to cook and now he's
already calling himself theleader.
And if Seth's come back andhe's like yo you said you was

(01:07:30):
leader now the fuck you talkingabout, like you know, it's gonna
cause beef, I would think.
Or maybe you know Seth might belike yo, cause you held down
the fort.
Thank you, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
I don't know how that's gonna work so, as far as
that piece that you're speakingon, first to say I actually
think Seth Rollins is hurt.
That's what I think too.
I think I don't.
I don't think it's a work.
Now, as far as, like the brawnbreaker, you know, taking the

(01:08:05):
reins and this and the other, Ido find it interesting a little
different.
That's kind of where we're atright now.
But brawn breaker has alwaysthis whole time has kind of been
shown as the loose cannon, buthe's smart enough to ask

(01:08:29):
questions.
Because you know, throughoutall this process, you know Brown
will be all like well, paul,what are we going to do?
And then Paul Heyman's all likelet me put you on game real
quick.
Here's what's going on.
Just sit back, relax, the planis working, and then the plan

(01:08:50):
would work and this thing andthe other and all these things
have been going on.
That's been a constant thingwith him and Paul Heyman to this
point where now Bron Breaker'slike I've been educated, I know
what I'm doing, what ishappening.
My girlfriend's computer juststarted making noises.

(01:09:11):
Oh, that's scary.
Yeah, I know right, let me knowif you see some weird shit
happening in the behind me orsomething.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
No, you ain't blowing up you good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
But so when it comes to the match, though, I'm going
to hit you with this discus,larry, aw shit.
So match's going Da-da-da-da.
It looks like CM Punk is aboutto, and all of a sudden you hear
burn it down.

(01:09:44):
You hear the pyro go off.
Cm Punk is all like oh hell, no.
Everyone thinks Seth Ross isgonna come.
Motherfucker, no shows.
Gunther gets up behind him,chokes out CM Punk, causes CM
Punk to match without evenshowing the fuck up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Gunther is the champion, I get with that.
Cm Punk loses, I get with that,because the true story is those
two going at each otherconstantly.
That is the real story.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Even in his absence.
He said the one thing that Iwill make sure that does not
happen is you win the bout saidthe one thing that I will make
sure that does not happen is youwin the belt.
And I feel that's in my heartof hearts, that's what I'm
hoping happens, like I would bevery hyped to see that something

(01:10:42):
like that goes down, type deal.
You know that would be great.
But yeah, I think Guffer winsthis.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
I mean that's a no-brainer.
I don't think CM Punk is reallygoing to get a title reign
while here.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
I don't feel like that is his mission or what he
should be doing I don't want himto like, I would not would
actually and this is about tosound like some crazy shit I'm
about to say okay, the fact that, like I, because of my past
history, that I know a lot ofpeople know about me with Steve

(01:11:25):
Bum, but I would not mind seeinghim in the title, it's just the
fact that once he wins it, it'slike who's getting the rub to
take it from him, who is hefighting once he gets the belt,

(01:11:47):
kind of thing, and as, like youknow, like where's the story at
with it?
Where, on the flip side, cm Punk, chasing this belt around, has
created not just this belt, butchasing the belts around has

(01:12:09):
been such a story in of itselfand with the random people
getting in his way and stoppinghim from getting the belt.
At this point I do think it hasto.
It's almost going to look likethe situation with the you know

(01:12:32):
the bloodline and Cody, whereit's like now he's got, since
he's dealing with Seth if Sethcomes back and he still has
fucking group, because you knowthat's kind of up in the air
with the way things look, butlike he still has the group, the
fucking group, because that'skind of up in the air with the
way things look, he still hasthe group.
It's like CM Punk if he has thegroup, then he gets the belt.

(01:12:55):
Cm Punk is trying to get thisbelt from him and he can't.
Because of the group Because ofthe group type deal.
Okay, now maybe there might bethat big moment where he finally
fights Seth Rollins and then hetakes the belt from him, kind
of thing.
But then I, but then I alsofeel as if that you know, people

(01:13:16):
will probably card that as like, oh, that's lazy.
We already did this with CodyRose in the bloodline.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
But it's like I don't know, it's a, it's interesting
it's interesting but he ain'twinning now I feel like Gunther
is going to win it, because CMPunk, I don't feel like he needs
the strap, he doesn't need thebelt, he just doesn't.

(01:13:41):
He doesn't need the belt, he's.
Unfortunately.
He has penta energy right nowbut at least CM Punk wins.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
I don't mean it like that, I'm just saying right now,
fam, cause I meant to actuallyask you.
I meant to actually ask youabout Penta's match in that
gauntlet and how they just letBraun Breaker beat him like.

(01:14:18):
I was meaning to bring that upand ask like where you felt and
where you stood with that,because I was like damn Brown
Breaker really just beat Pentalike that.
Bro Clean, he beat him clean.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
The spear is clean.
It's a devastating move.
The spear is clean.
It's a devastating move whenBron does it and he legit gut
checking motherfucker.
So for Penta, we just gonna letit slide.

(01:15:06):
We just gonna let it slide.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
We're just going to let it slide well, I feel Penta
was aiming too high anyway andhe should have actually stuck in
the intercontinental title area, which would have been great
lucha wrestling.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
But instead we're going to get.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
I still would say it's great lucha wrestling,
great lucha wrestling, butinstead we're gonna get.
I still would say it's greatlucha wrestling because we got
AJ Styles and Dominik.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
I'm talking about, like it's in, two actual
luchadors going against eachother.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Damn, that's how you feel about AJ Styles.
That's what we doing, nigga heup.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Anyway, let's move on .
Damn, that's how you feel aboutAJ Styles.
That's what we doing.
Anyway, let's move on damn.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
So that's all you got with Dominic and AJ Styles, oh
you talking about that match,dominic wins Dominic wins he has
to win.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
He's actually on a good tear with walking around
with the belt, showcasing iteverywhere like he's, and also
him bringing it to AAA puts moreeyes on the product.
Because you know WWE that'skind of why they do certain
things they put a belt onsomebody who can have reach in
other platforms.
That's why Trick Williams has aTNA title.

(01:16:28):
Tna and WWE have thatpartnership with NXT and TNA.
So you put an NXT guy with thebelt and you bring the NXT title
, you bring the TNA title to NXT.
It gets people wondering what'sgoing on TNA, what is he doing
TNA?
So now we're watching TNAproduct because we want to see
Trick Williams.

(01:16:48):
So it's a smart strategy.
So they're kind of like almosteven doing that with the
Intercontinental title, himgoing to AAA.
Now he's going to be a AAAmania going for the AAA title.
Like it's more eyes on theproduct because of a belt, and I
hate to say that the belt doesthat, but it does.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
I mean, that's what they did with Jinder Mahal.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Let's not talk about that.
Wow, they did do that, thoughthey did, and it wasn't cool.
They literally used that man, Iain't gonna lie, you're right,
though they used that man.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
I was hyped when Jinder Mahal got that
heavyweight belt, but boy oh boyhe Canadian.
I mean still, you know like.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
I know, I know he has his origin, heritage is of that
nation.
But it was just like hey, it'salmost like WWE said, hey, one
of your people is holding thebelt.
But it was just like.
Hey, it's almost like WWE saidhey, one of your people is
holding the belt.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
Yeah, it's a thing, but I mean, I mean technically,
that's what's going on withDominic.
Mysterio is like, hey, one ofyour people is holding the belt,
but in Spanish you know, I meanhe's the intercontinental title
, so it makes more sense too.
Alright, I'm gonna let you havethat freebie, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Come on, bro, you can't be mad at that one.
That shit's good, that shit'strue, though it would make more
sense.
Honestly, I really felt likethat should have been a thing,
like the Intercontinental titleshould have been a belt that yo,
you got to defend it everywhere, like not saying you obviously
are defending it everywhere, butlike you're going
internationally defending it.
That was the younger me sayingthat back in the day, because I

(01:18:39):
was like it's theIntercontinental title, kind of
how, like people found theEuropean title stupid when it's
in America, like shit, like that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
I mean that's fair.
Yeah, I mean, uh, like I, I,I'm, I'm picking up what you're
putting down in that aspect also, just only because you did
bring up that other promotionthere, um, uh, how they got rid
of Alberto who was the champion,yeah, they got him the fuck out

(01:19:14):
of here.
Somebody was talking about how,like you know, because Alberto
Patron, because he's not in WWEMr Patron is like Mr Patron,
it's like Mr Patron was wasthere, like the champion, and

(01:19:34):
WWE, very smoothly, would talkabout everybody else around him
but not about him.
They talked about one of theguys.
They talked about the guy whowas going to be fighting for the
heavyweight champion, withoutnaming who the heavyweight
champion was, but like not untilhe lost the title.

(01:19:56):
Have they actually spoke aboutwho the champion is and how did
he lose the title?
He was in a match that saidloser leaves the promotion.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
You want to know how much they didn't give a fuck
about him and was already.
Val Kingo is like theirchampion.
They were promoting in theStates that he was going to be
the champion at Worlds Collideand he hadn't even won the
fucking belt yet.
So on US soil and all USproduct, you saw he was going,
even won the fucking belt yet.

(01:20:28):
So on us soil and all usproduct, you saw he was going to
be the champion and going to bethere.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
But everywhere else, especially mexico, you didn't
see that shit you know it'sfunny that this keeps coming up,
but, like when you do stupidshit and you tarnish your image,
you know what I'm saying?
You fuck up your own legacyBecause I was a big Alberto Del

(01:20:56):
Rio fan.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
You was glazed man nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
It was what it was.
I was all about Destiny.
I was so hyped when he won thatheavyweight title.
Yo, destiny, destiny, I was sohyped when he won that
heavyweight title.
Yo, that's good, that's good,that was me.
I was literally telling someonethe other day how I was this
close to buying one of thosescarves.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Oh yeah, I remember you telling me that story.
I was right there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
And driving around the Bentley and, like Alberto
Del Rio, was everything that Iwanted.
And then he had to go ondomestic violence and that's a
big no, no.
And then he proceeded to justbe an absolute.
He proceeded to be dog waterbro Just all the way up until

(01:21:47):
his last thing that he did to,which was the whole, the whole
kidnapping thing that he alsodid, but was acquitted and it's
not on his record, no more.
So he allegedly, but still it'ssuch a bad look, and so it's

(01:22:11):
like I can understand why WWE islike listen, we don't want to
be associated.
You got to get the fuck out ofhere.
You want this partnership towork, he has to go, and he's
gone.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Nah, they were probably like look, look, look,
look.
Normally we looking out for ourpeople.
But, bro, like you kind of gotto go now, dog, like we fuck
with you but we don't fuck withyou.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
We fuck Actually, you know what?
We just don't fuck with you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
Let's be real.
We just don't fuck with you,dog.
Let's just keep it a buck,homie.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Dominic Mysterio going over.
I agree, and if I did not sayit, I also think Randy Orton and
Jelly Roll are also going overthat match.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
It's a fucking celebrity match.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
Of course they are like I'm pretty certain they're
going over Jelly Roll's going todo something.
Dope Jelly Roll out here tryingto bring Joe Slams back.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
If he does something dope that I would think like he
ain't going to do.
I'm trying to think what crazyshit could he do?
Jelly Roll Ben, 50 Splash Yo.
If he actually does that, yougot to also who is taking that?
Jelly roll best, 50 splash yo.
If he actually does that, yougotta also call it.
You gotta remember taking that.
Who is taking that?
I mean drew mcintyre is a sturdyyoung man, nah, drew mcintyre

(01:23:36):
already makes comments aboutpeople you know being like heavy
set and shit like that, notsaying he's doing like an
asshole, he's doing as a heel.
But I don't, I'm taking thatbump.
It's probably like Kevin Nashback in the day when he knew Big
Show could do moonsaults.
He was like, oh word, I ain'ttaking that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
No, bam Bam.
Bigelow moonsaults for him.
Nope.
Women's tag team match Raqueland Roxanne versus Charlotte and
Alexa Bliss.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
Boy, I love me some Roxanne.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
As much as I would really like to see Charlotte
Flair and Alexa Bliss win, Ireally do I really do.
I don't think they're going togive it to them.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
A part of me says they might, because they're kind
of on a run with it, but I alsodon't see them losing it,
because Judgment Day is also onthis tear as well, and I think
what's going to happen is theonly way if Judgment Day loses
those titles is Liv comes backand you know, speaking of which

(01:24:49):
there is actually a questionthat good old story has given us
that I must bring to yourattention.
Oh Okay, let me go ahead andpull it up real quick.
He actually put it in thecomment section, so if you
haven't checked it out, it's onthere.
He put it on one of the videos,specifically the one about the

(01:25:13):
Becky one.
Which great video.
Love that.
Love the outcome of how thatwas.
That took me a while to make,but story says so.
I have a question for you, boysat SummerSlam.
So I have a question for you,boys at SummerSlam.
If there would be a surprisereturn or first appearance, who

(01:25:34):
would it be and what match wouldit happen in?
just in general yeah, whocurrently in wrestling?
It could be a new.
It could be a new appearance,it could be a surprise return,
because this is supposed to be abig fucking pay-per-view.
We should get a surprise returnor something of that nature.
And, by the way, audience, ifyou want your comments read, uh,

(01:25:58):
please put them in the commentsection.
We're reading comments out inour episodes, so please, if you
want to be a part of the pod,put your comments in the comment
section.
Whether it's YouTube orInstagram or any platform, we're
reading the comments.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
Hmm, let me see.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
I was going to say Liv Morgan, that would be the
surprise.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
I feel like that's, but I feel like it's way too
soon.
Because, however, there is alsothe fact that, like because
what is it Freaking?
Finn Balor has been reallydriving the fact that it's going
to take her forever to comeback.
He's like, every time theybring her up, he's all like.

(01:26:46):
You know, I listen, I've hadthe same shoulder injury.
You know what I mean, like andthat it took me like nine or
like eight to nine months tocome back, type situation.
And he's been, he's beendriving that fact that you know,
shoulder injuries take a longtime to heal from a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
So I, because of that , just for that wow factor, I
could possibly see that being athing yeah, because I mean like
it was a dislocated shoulder andnormally so a lot of people
would have dislocated hisshoulder and popped that bitch
back in.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
And it's still going.
It's all in how it's done, ofcourse, as Finn Balor said.
That's why we're in thealternate universe, where it
happened to Finn Balor and hedid not have a championship
reign as the universal champion.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
He would never have another one because of it too.
Unfortunately, I really hatethat.
That one situation has fuckedhim forever.
Again in the title chart.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
I'm going to have to think on that piece.
I'm going to have to think onthat particular bit because I
don't know who.
Or in looking at the list ofmatches, I don't know for what
match.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
I mean Seth Rollins return could be a thing you know
saying and hoping he's not hurt.
That's a surprise return, butlike, as in a new appearance
from like a hot, fresh, you knowtalent or maybe an up and
coming talent.
I think somebody was sayingthat, um, somebody was going up
soon.

(01:28:29):
Uh and uh, oh, oh.
Britt Baker.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Oh, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
I feel like Britt Baker.
If we were going to do anything, britt Baker would show up
after Jade Cargill wins thetitle and also you'll hear no,
no, no, no.
Jade wins the belt and, as Jadeis holding the title, tiffany's
leaving the ring.
You hear, the doctor will seeyou now and you're like, oh shit

(01:29:04):
, what the fuck?
And they do the face-to-facebecause now it's like it's an
AEW rivalry in WWE.
Okay, that's a fight.
Can't tell me you wouldn't popfor that.
I mean like you may not pop forthat because you you're not
really that versed with britbaker and what she did and all

(01:29:26):
that kind of stuff in aew now,don't get me wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
I mean against what everyone else says about brit
baker.
Like I was blind to the britbaker hate in the very beginning
and I thought when she firstcame with AEW I thought she was
great.
She is AEW Brick Breaker cominghere would be interesting.
It would be interesting.

(01:29:52):
I don't see it happening.
As a matter of fact, I don'teven know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
Well, she's trying to go to WWE.
That's the thing she's beenwaiting on is her contract to
end with AEW and her contract'sbeen gone.
Tony's gotten rid of her, solike the possibility has been
confirmed yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
I didn't know that was confirmed, because I know
that there was some rumblesabout it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
I just actually I just never looked well, I might
have to look back again, but Iheard that he finally got rid of
her Her contract ended orwhatever because he's been
trying to get rid of her andstuff like that.
But I may be incorrect, becausejust to that.
But I do feel like if anybodyanybody, it would be her.

(01:30:38):
Do feel like if anybody anybody, it would be her.
I don't know any other peoplecoming back and they're not
bringing back Matt Cardona.
That would be dope.
But like, even with that, whatwould the fuck they bring him
back for?

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
well, I can tell you right now, as the person who's
in the Washington A, mattCardona, is the the invasion
angle is getting set up rightnow.
Matt Cardona is the invasionangle is getting set up right
now and Matt Cardona is kind ofsort of portraying himself as
being on Team TNA right now tohelp fight the, as they've been

(01:31:14):
calling it, the outsiders, theNXT coalition type situation.
So there's that I don't know.
I'm going to let that stew fora bit because I don't know,
because I'm looking at thesematches and I'm just trying to
think of someone who could dothe thing.

(01:31:34):
But when it comes to thiswomen's tag team match, yeah, I
think they're going to keepRoxelle and Raquel with it,
perez and Rodriguez over Flairand Bliss, but I wish Flair and

(01:31:58):
Bliss would get that though.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
I will agree.
The little big sister littlesister thing they got going on.
I will agree only because Ithink truly them doing what
they're doing right now ispretty dope, but I feel like
they're saving that moment forthey're saving that moment, for

(01:32:24):
they're saving that moment forwhen Liv comes back.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
Oh, with them having the tag team titles and stuff
like oh, yeah, yeah, Likeeverything with Judgment Day is
kind of locked up a little bituntil you know these belts,
which is part of the reason whyI feel also the fact that I
think Dominic is going to beatAJ Styles as well.
However, whichever matchhappens first because these

(01:32:55):
matches aren't necessarily inorder Whichever one happens
first, if one person drops thebelt, then that means I feel
they all gonna drop them.
I mean, and then Finn and JDare gonna be the only ones with
belts and they're just gonna beall like what happened what

(01:33:15):
happened like who?

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
how did we get to this point?
How did we get to this point?
How did we get to this point?

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
so Lyra versus Becky in a false count anywhere,
anything goes and the loser.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
If she loses, she can never go for the
intercontinental title again yes, that that there.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
I think Lyra's going to get this dub.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
Yeah, she's going to get it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
This is the bow on top to send Lyra out to the
world.
This is that bullshit.
Damn, that's how you feel.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
Yeah, yeah, you already know I don't like Lyra.
I don't Crazy talk Like I don'tlike lyra, I don't crazy talk
like I don't.
How about this?
I don't like how herpresentation is currently,
mainly because I feel like she'sstill somewhat, she feels still

(01:34:18):
very green on a lot of thingsfor me, like, but obviously you
can't, you can't get, you can'tget really well until you've
been put in the driver's seat.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
I don't like her promo game.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
I don't, I don't.
Her in-ring ability is good.
I hate how she cuts promos.

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
Okay, I mean yes, cuts promos.
I'm okay.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
I mean yes, her promos are not great she to me
cuts a promo like a high schoolchick, and when I say about that
, it's cause she talks like thiswhen she's holding the

(01:35:03):
microphone and she uses herhands like this.
And I'm like, why are you doingthat?
Like why is every moment likethis?
And I just don't like how itjust throws me off because it
seems very you know high schoolcheerleader vibes and very you
know high school cheerleadervibes and I think she was

(01:35:24):
probably high school cheerleader.
I feel like she might have been, but like I mean, All right,
hey, listen.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
You don't like Lyra?
Go fuck about no Becky Lynch.
So I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
Yeah, you are disrespectful with Becky Lynch.
I'm not least disrespectful, orlike I at least give her her
grace.
You are completelydisrespectful to this bitch and
I hate that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Disrespectful or just honest Disrespectful, I don't
know.
The wrestling chat would sayotherwise.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
I don't give a fuck about that goddamn opinion about
that shit.
They my boys, but fuck thatshit, man.
Everybody has their opinion ontheir favorite wrestler and what
they do.
This is mad.
We all enjoy our wrestling howwe do, but man, y'all ain't
going disrespect like thecoattail rider Becky Lynch it is

(01:36:24):
what it is.
Brother Hulk Hogan did some ofthat shit too.
A lot of people did some ofthat shit.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
I'm gonna fuck respect, hulk Hogan rode
nobody's coattails.
People rode the coattails ofHulk Hogan.
I mean, you got a point but butlet's put some respect.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
People rode the coattails of Hulk Hogan.
I mean, you got a point, butthat's the.
Let's put some respect On theman, and I don't even like
calling her the man.
I don't like calling her theman at all.
No, big time Becky, I think Iwill.
Big time Becky, I'm not callingher that either.

(01:37:00):
I forgot you a hater, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
I will call her Becky Lynch.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
It's that hater talk.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
That's why she's losing the belt Solo versus
Jacob Fatu in a steel cage.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
This one is actually going to be interesting to me,
because I don't know what'sgoing to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
It's hard to call.
If Sola loses, then thatcompletely dookies all over this
NFTs group that he's got going.

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
Yeah, but then another Samoan has to come back.
That's a hint.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
Roman Reigns versus Vince.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
So you're just gonna ignore the yup?
That's crazy.
He did it on live TV, butyou're gonna ignore it when I do
it.
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
I can't stand it, bro .
And the fact is, is the factlike cause, like it almost feels
like you know, like like whenyou do something and then like
everyone's all like, oh man,that is so great, I'm glad that
you did that, but it's like youonly did.
Like you, it was only meant tobe like a one time thing, like

(01:38:35):
you was just in the moment andyou did it, and then all of a
sudden, it's like a couple dayslater, it's like hey, yo, bro,
remember when you did that onething, hey, yo do that shit real
quick.
And then you do it and they'relike yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you can live it down andthen now you're in front of like
a large group of people like,hey yo, real quick yo.

(01:38:56):
So my boy does this thing right.
Hey, yo, bro, come over here,show up, do the thing, do the
thing.
It's that fucking Bart Simpsonmeme where it's like, hey, bart,
do the line, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And everyone's like, yeah,that's what I feel, cause then

(01:39:17):
after he did it that one timeevery time you see him it's that
and then it just becomes likehis catchphrase.
Just, you know, everyone saystheir thing.
And then he just yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
And then he walks the fuck off.
You know what I'm saying?
Right?
And then they did this onething where there was like like

(01:39:39):
you know how they at football,when they're always like Jacob
Matthews, west PhiladelphiaUniversity, go Raiders oh, yeah,
yeah failed.
They did that shit with thebloodline and it's like Jacob

(01:40:04):
Fatu was like Jacob Fatu, I loveyou solo.
And then what's his name?
He comes up on there.
He comes up on there and he'slike yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, like, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
University, I'm like oh, there's no fucking way.
No, no, you gotta show me thatshit.
I don't know.
You gonna have to show me thatshit, bro.
You gonna have to show me thatshit, bro.
I don't believe it, bro.
There's no fucking way theywould do that.
Oh my God, he's searching it.

(01:40:44):
Oh shit, oh shit.
But I do believe he will showup, because that's the only way,
because Solo's not winning thatclean.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
Oh yeah, no, no, there's gonna be some Some uh,
there's gonna be some Deathriders levels of Shenanigans,
bro, like you, dead ass tryingto find that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
You dead ass trying to find that shit.
You dead ass trying to findthat shit.
That's crazy hold on.
I think I may have actuallyfound it here hold on but don't
play it out loud, so that way itwon't interrupt the audio oh,
no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
It's not going to play out loud where, it's only
going to play in my ear.

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
I don't know, I've been getting a slight echo
during the pod a little bit,where it's only going to play in
my ear.
Oh, I don't know, I've beengetting a slight echo during the
pod a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
It might be because my headphones are loud.
I'll turn them down a littlebit, but, um, but, yeah, yeah,
it's a quote, I think I do haveit here.
Here it is, this is it.

(01:42:10):
This is it when you hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:15):
Send it.
Send it on Discord.
I'll check it out after the pod.

Speaker 2 (01:42:24):
But hell, no, yeah, I put it in the thing and so yeah
.
So, like I mean yeah, I thinkSolo's going to take it as much
as I would prefer Jacob Pato towin, is going to take as much as
I would prefer Jacob Patu towin.
It's like Solo's not going tolose after getting Tala Tonga.

(01:42:46):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:42:47):
Yeah, I know he's probably going to break the cage
.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
He's going to pull a cane.
That's got to be.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
That's got to be a Tonga.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
That's got to be a Tonga.
That's got to be a Tonga.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
That's gotta be a that's gotta be a Tonga, oh and
he's taller, taller, tonga.

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
He's, he's a Tonga.
He said he's taller and he's ataller, taller, taller, taller,
taller, taller.
Theater alone comes out, hitswith the let me.
And you got Tala, tala, tala,tala, holla, holla, oh God.

Speaker 1 (01:43:22):
Theater Along comes out, hits with the let me holla
at you player.
I got Tala with the holla,holla, holla.
Actually, if somebody can dothat, somebody can do the.
You know how they do the WWE 2Kteams and shit.
Put Tala, hala.
Come on, man, just do that shit.

(01:43:44):
If I had the game, I'd do it.
If I had the game, I'd do it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
Roman Reigns and Jey Uso going up against, as they've
been referred to as Bron Bron,bron Breaker and Bronson Reed.

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
I feel like Braun Braun's winning Um no, the thing
about that match is somethingwould have to happen.
But Braun the Brawns kind ofhave to win this.
But knowing how they normallydo take home go home angles and

(01:44:30):
I don't think there's going tobe anything that happens on
Smackdown with them but normallywhen they do go home angles,
whoever goes over in thoseangles is normally sometimes the
person is losing.

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
I mean when you open goes over in those angles is
normally sometimes the person'slosing.
I mean, when you open the bookof booking, yes, that's like the
booking 101.
However, I really need them tobreak that number one rule,
which I feel is the number onerule of booking is to break the

(01:45:04):
rules of booking to make truthwork.
But I feel I really wantBrunson Reed and them to win,
and I even more so.
I want them to win and I needRoman Reigns to be pinned Like,

(01:45:25):
because that's the only way theyget over, because Jey Uso ain't
shit, bro.
Let's be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
He ain't shit.
It's just me Uso.
It's just me Ugh.
You know what?
There's so many.
Have you seen the video?
There's a content creator whodoes that, or whatever yes

(01:46:01):
whoever that person is, callyour own dick.
Yes, that shit is stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:46:10):
I hate it so much.

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
I hate it so much.
I hate it so much.
I'll be like I was the wholetime I'm watching it.
I'm like I watched like sevenof them and I'm like what is he
gonna do?
Stop, what is he going to do?
Stop, what is he going to do?
Stop, what is he going to do?
And he does like everythingelse, but stop.
And I was like I watched likeeight, seven, eight of them.
I just kept watching them.
Why would you do that toyourself?

(01:46:33):
Why would you not?

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
Right Such torture?

Speaker 1 (01:46:38):
No, it wasn't.
Shit was hilarious.
Absolute foolishness.

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
There's a part of me, though when it comes to this,
like I want them to win and Ineed Roman Reigns to lose, but
though they really haven'tplayed into it or anything, and
I know Paul Heyman brought it up, but I feel like that would be
kind of a little cool thing ifthey play on the fact of you
know Roman Reigns, like a littlebit of weird dissension between

(01:47:03):
Roman Reigns and Jey Uso.
Now, though, we're not talkingabout what happened on, like you
know, the Raws and everything,but when Roman Reigns came out
there and he was talking shit toPaul Heyman and he had the
audacity to say that Paul Heymanruined the bloodline, I'm

(01:47:26):
looking at Roman Reigns likeReally nigga, that's really what
.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
He's standing on what he believes in, bro.
He believe that shit.
Paul Heyman ruined the family.
He believe that shit.
He's standing on that Crazy.
He's standing on that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
What makes me even more upset is the fact that
everyone's all like, yeah, paulHeyman, you ruined the bloodline
.
The fans are booing andcheering Roman Reigns.
I'm like, yeah, paul Amon, youruined the bloodline.
The fans are booing andcheering Roman Reigns.
I'm like have we forgotten whattyrant Roman Reigns was ruling
the bloodline like a freakinggoddamn communist throughout

(01:48:16):
here?
he was doing big boy shit he'sthe reason why the bloodline was
all like okay, we're tired ofbeing bossed around, this is all
right, y'all.
You know we so quick to forget,but it's me, the tribal chief

(01:48:41):
we so quick to forget.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
But um, it's me the tribal chief.

Speaker 2 (01:48:44):
You know your tribal chief but um, but yeah, I, I
don't know.
I really don't feel that RomanReigns and Jey are gonna win
this cause, like they shouldn'twin it cause if they win it,
then Braun, I don't know why I'mstill calling Braun.

(01:49:05):
Braun, but the Brawns, they,they're getting that Nexus
treatment.
If that's the case, build themreal strong and they don't win
the big one and now no one cares.
They have to win for us to care.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
Yeah, they really do.
And the fact that they'rebeating Roman Reigns is what's
going to technically for somepeople it's going to be like, oh
, they beat Roman Reigns, thatis the care for them, and it's
like it's not even that big of adeal.
Bro, roman is not the OTC weonce feared.
Okay, I mean, it's off thatpedestal.

(01:49:43):
He's on a different level rightnow.

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
I mean I think he, I still think he is.
I don't know what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
Man, look, he's not the.
He's not the.
What three-year champion thathe was.
He's not that dude, no more.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
Yeah, no, he's not that dude.
He yeah, no, he's not that dude.
He is the OTC one.

Speaker 1 (01:50:07):
Yeah, you would bring up that dumbass shirt, which
would mean he's better.
And one skills, that's what itmeans, and one.

Speaker 2 (01:50:18):
Roman Reigns and one.

Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
That's not the first time.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
That's not the first time I've heard that joke, which
goes to show how bad this is.
But yeah, we need the bronze towin this.
But talking about caringactually I didn't mean it in
that way, but carry him across.

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
I like how you try to flip that Carrying what?

Speaker 2 (01:50:51):
Because when I said carrying, it was more so like I
don't think I actually careabout this match, which is crazy
work Damn, that's crazy.
I think I want to care aboutthis match, which is crazy work
Damn, that's crazy.
Like I think I want to careabout it.
But it's like because, if I'mtrying to understand what
Karrion Kross is trying to get,is trying to get across, is that

(01:51:16):
he's trying to get Sami Zayn.
He's trying to get Sami Zayn.
He's actually almost doing athing that a lot of people said
that the Fiend was doing and waslike every time the Fiend would
fight somebody and he wouldbeat them, they would like
revert to this evil version ofthemselves kind of thing, revert

(01:51:41):
to this evil version ofthemselves kind of thing.
And the only peoples who neveractually reverted to an evil
version of themselves duringthat whole bit was actually uh,
was actually Goldberg, becausehe actually beat the fiend, but,
um, but it's like carryingcross.
He's trying to make people goback to being the evil version

(01:52:04):
of himself, because that's whathe did with oh my goodness
Xavier Woods, which thenaffected Kofi Kingston.
He tried to do this whole thingwith, like, aj Styles and it

(01:52:28):
didn't work and he just kind ofleft AJ Styles alone, but for
some reason he won't leave SamiZayn alone, type thing cause
Sami Zayn ain't got nothing elseto do, and so it's like cause
KO's not K.

Speaker 1 (01:52:42):
Because KO's not present anymore and we don't
know when he might be back.
Yeah, because he's got a brokenfreaking neck, and so that's
crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:52:51):
But it's like, if Karrion Kross wins, like is that
supposed to signify the heelturn for Sami Zayn?
Like is that what we're goingto end up seeing, I guess.
So Like I'm trying tounderstand what Karrion Kross is
trying to get across.
What is his point he's tryingto get across, what?

Speaker 1 (01:53:14):
is Karrion Kross trying to get across?

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
Yes, Essentially, but at the end of the day I also
still think Sami, I feel SamiZayn's gonna win, which, for all
intents and purposes, to mekind of makes this match like
useless Sami.

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
Zayn's not winning.
You don't think he's winning?
No, because he won the last one.
It's a better story to me tosee Sami Zayn win.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
Sami to see Sammy Zang last two, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
So I'm saying, so why would he win the third one?
I feel like because of thisstipulation now, with him saying
that you got to say you're, Iwas right, I feel like they're
trying in some way, shape orform to maybe change Sammy's
character and my curiosity feelslike, okay, well, if he's won
the two, he got to win the thirdone, right?
And then therefore, it changessomething about Sammy.

(01:54:07):
Does it make him a tag team?
I don't know.
Does he start following him asa disciple?
I don't know, but I feel likethere'll be an interesting story
of why does he want him to saythis so bad and him finally
getting him to say it.
What does it do to Sammy?
Bad and him finally getting himto say it.
What does it do to Sammy?
Because, yeah, say, if Sammywins, then character and cross.
His character literally becomesBray Wyatt.

(01:54:27):
He's a, he's a prophet whogives these prophecies and makes
people do XYZ, but in every bigmatch he fucking loses.
No, we don't need that.
Make cross actually matter.
He fucking, he's, he's fuckingover.

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
Give him something with the definition that you've
given already.
That's what he already isbecause, like I said, he sure he
kind of successfully did it toXavier Woods, but he didn't do
it to AJ Styles and AJ Stylesbeat him, and that was it.

(01:55:07):
Aj Styles beat him and he neverwent back to AJ with Sami Zayn.
Sami Zayn beat him once KarrionKross came back, sami Zayn beat
him again now maybe you'reright, because that's the same
process we did came back, sammyZane beat him again.
Now maybe you're right, becausethat's the same process we did
with Lyra and Becky, where ofcourse Two wins, you lose one.

(01:55:34):
But of course I hate it becauseit's stupid, I know how you
feel about it, but I hate it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:41):
It's stupid.
I know how you feel about it,but I hate it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:50):
I don't hate Karrion Kross.
I didn't really ever like him awhole lot.
He's kind of grown on me atthis point but it's, I don't
know.
It's not doing it for me, buthey, we'll see.

(01:56:11):
It's one of those deals like itmakes sense that Karrion Kross
should win.
But I just want to see Sammyget this dub and move on with
life and start getting ready foryou know.

Speaker 1 (01:56:25):
KO to come back.

Speaker 2 (01:56:28):
KO ain't coming back no time soon for that.
I'm just saying that's thebiggest story.

Speaker 1 (01:56:32):
they keep having and using with him is the constant
back and forth with those two.
They don't ever let Sammy doanything else outside of
Bloodline stuff.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:56:45):
Outside of Bloodline.

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
Outside of Bloodline.

Speaker 2 (01:56:48):
So we're just going to act like Sami Zayn's
Intercontinental title run neverhappened.

Speaker 1 (01:56:55):
It did.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
Are we talking about the heel one?

Speaker 1 (01:56:58):
You talking about the heel one?
Yes, okay, but again, they madehim a heel and yes, it was fun,
but what I'm saying is thestory behind that.
It doesn't hold, it didn't hold, what are you talking?

Speaker 2 (01:57:12):
It hold for quite some time.
It was actually a slow burn.
He went on this because beforehe was short hair Sammy.
And then he went on thisbecause he, because before he
was short hair sammy.
And then he went on this wholeconspiracy theory situation.
He even had someone.
I forgot who it was, who he hadwith him now, but it's like yes

(01:57:33):
, uh, shinsuke nakamura with himat one point was this shinsuke,
maybe?
it was, but it's like but it'slike like he had like a small
little group for a brief momentof people who was following and
believed in his, whatever hisrhetoric.

Speaker 1 (01:57:47):
Like he had.
So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
So you're telling me.
So you're telling me, you thinkKarrion Kross is going to feed
off of that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:59):
That's what Karrion Kross is doing.
Karrion Kross, his whole motiveis to make is to remind Sami of
that.
Sami, because he's like you'renot a good person, you're not a
good guy and all this otherstuff.
And Sami Zayn's all like bro,you're weird, go away.

(01:58:19):
Other stuff and Sammy Zane'sall like bro, you're, you're
weird, go away.
Because Sammy I'm guessing inthis particular case is
repressing it.
But it's like that's whatKarrion Kross is talking about.
He's talking about old SammyZane, who was on some conspiracy
tinfoil hat, shit and thereason why Sammy Zane has long

(01:58:40):
hair right now.
Back when he was walking aroundwith that ugly ass almost
looked like it was dirty trenchcoat, talking craziness.
That's what he's talking about.
That's what this is all about,but I don't think that's what

(01:59:00):
we're doing right now.

Speaker 1 (01:59:02):
I think that's that's where they should go.

Speaker 2 (01:59:07):
Maybe I mean, I don't think that's what we're doing
right now.
I just I just don't see that.
I just don't see that being thething.
But you know, I mean, maybethey're, maybe they're actually
going to push Karrion on this.
I honestly feel like let's moveon and do something else with
Karrion.
But hey, you know, I guess SamiZayn has time to kill, since,

(01:59:32):
you know, all the belts are gridlocked up with our greatest
heel turn of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
John, alright, alright, alright.
You a hating ass motherfuckerbro.
It was a hating assmotherfucker.
Nobody likes it oh my god, it'sa bust.
I'ma have to see you.
We're gonna have to see you.
We're gonna stop in disrespect.
It is see you.
We're going to stopdisrespecting.
It is a bust, bro.

Speaker 2 (02:00:04):
We're going to stop disrespecting.
One thing I'm glad that they'vestopped disrespecting, however,
is the tag team titles onSmackDown.

Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
Oh man, that match is going to be match of the year.
I'm sorry it might be of thedecade.
Maybe that's a the year.
I'm sorry it might be of thedecade.
Maybe that's a heavy statement.
I'm just saying it's going tobe that good of a match, man.
It's going to be crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:00:30):
We have, we got whatever Andrade and Penta's
brother's doing DIY.

Speaker 1 (02:00:39):
Listen, bro, look at what it is.

Speaker 2 (02:00:44):
Igolo in Phoenix fucking, but we got them.
We got DIY, we got the MotorCity machine guns, we got Axiom,
we got the smoke and we havesuch a weird name.
Yeah, I feel as if like Axiomprobably has like some meaning

(02:01:12):
behind it.
Like Axiom probably like meanslike speed or something.
I have to look up the word, butMaybe this match.

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
That's the match I'm looking forward to.
I think Wyatt's keep it.
Yeah, they do.
I don't think any titles arereally moving, except for,
besides, jade Intercontinentaltitle stays.
This might be just apay-per-view where, yes, it's
the biggest party of the summer,but I don't really see any

(02:01:50):
major title terms.

Speaker 2 (02:01:53):
Damn.
I hope that you'redisrespecting the
Intercontinental title for thewomen.

Speaker 1 (02:02:01):
Oh shit we did just say that, yeah, my bad, no, no,
no, I was disrespecting that,was not disrespecting that.
I completely forgot about thatmatch.
That is not even the case.
But yes, valkyria, and then thewomen's title.
So those will probably be theonly two title changes.

Speaker 2 (02:02:16):
Funny but, actually it's all the women's, yeah, yeah
.

Speaker 1 (02:02:20):
So everything else doesn't feel like it's going to
change.

Speaker 2 (02:02:26):
But if they do, then that throws a lot of curveballs.
That boy, WWE, could use somecurveballs.

Speaker 1 (02:02:35):
Could they, or do they?
Because I mean, honestly, whatcurveball besides you not liking
this, cena heel run.
What other curveballs do youfeel like it needs to have or
like what needs to be done?

Speaker 2 (02:02:51):
the curveball is not me hating the john cena heel
turn.
The curveball would be doingsomething that would make me be
like, oh shit, maybe this heelturns kind of great, that's a
curveball.
Would be doing something thatwould make me be like, oh shit,
maybe this heel turn's kind ofgreat, that's a curveball.
A curveball would be Naomilosing and then coming out there
and fucking over Jade.
Or even better, naomi wins andshe still comes out there and

(02:03:17):
fucks over Jade.
That's a curveball, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:03:24):
Now, that's right on schedule.
Though that's right on scheduleactually.
That's not even a curve, that'sright on schedule.

Speaker 2 (02:03:29):
I mean you was right, you was right, that's right on
schedule.

Speaker 1 (02:03:33):
That's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (02:03:37):
So yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
When it comes to curveballs,you know something that'll make
me be all like, oh, this isinteresting now, because that's
what I like, that's what I want.

Speaker 1 (02:03:53):
That is what's wrestling, that is what's great
about wrestling.

Speaker 2 (02:03:56):
That is what wrestling needs to be.
And sometimes is and sometimesit isn't, but yeah, that's the
long-ass card Because it's twonights.

Speaker 1 (02:04:13):
Yes, and this is a long-ass episode.

Speaker 2 (02:04:18):
I mean, listen, there was two very big things that
was talked about SummerSlam andgoddamn Hulk Hogan.
And listen, regardless of whatpeople say, personally I'm going
to say rest in peace, becauseat the end of the day, a life

(02:04:42):
was lost.
A life was lost, yes, and whoknows?
Because we're not, we can'tjudge him, but hey, in his time
of leaving he was going tochurch and maybe somewhere in
there he may have gotten rightwith God.

(02:05:02):
Who knows?
We have to go up there and findout and so well, aside from
that, summerslam, I think, isgoing to be fun and I'm hoping
to be wowed with the drink withthe drink in your hand.

Speaker 1 (02:05:24):
Yeah, as you say that , with the drink in your hand.
That's crazy.
Wow me, wwe, wow me, it has to.
You basically make it secondaryto WrestleMania.
It needs to be wow, it needs tobe like oh shit, do we need to
make this happen every time?
Because it's your first tip.

Speaker 2 (02:05:45):
The answer is yes.
It's your first tip.
If you're not, if you're not,if you're not, they have.
If they give us anotherWrestleMania, if they give us,
if they give us what they gaveus at Wrestlemania this year,
fuck and if you're not down withthat, we got two words for you

(02:06:07):
no, ye, yeah, no ye.

Speaker 1 (02:06:14):
Well, guys, I want to say thank you so much for
another episode of the podcast.
If you guys have any commentsagain you want us to read, put
us in.
Put us in, put your comments inany of our forms of media
whether, if it's TikTok, youtube, instagram, any of your
questions and we'll be able toread them out in the pod so that

(02:06:36):
way we interact with you guysas well.
Any final thoughts?
Swag, swag, before we kind ofgo into summer slam um.

Speaker 2 (02:06:46):
No, I don't think.
I don't really think that I doum outside.
Oh, you know what?
I might have one to answer thatquestion, right?
Oh yeah, go for it.
I might have one to answer thatquestion, right?
Oh yeah, go for it.
With the things that are goingon in this, like with the street

(02:07:11):
fight or I would probably Iwant to say, for some reason I
was thinking with the Sami Zaynand Karrion Kross type situation
Freaking if I was going to justto randomly bring somebody up,
bring up that, uh, that factionon NXT.
Um with those, uh, with um,that kind of reminds me of the

(02:07:35):
Shield a little bit.
Fuck.
What is their name?
Now, boy, why are the namesescaping me?

Speaker 1 (02:07:41):
It's cause it's late.

Speaker 2 (02:07:44):
But if you haven't watched NXT, there's like this
little faction that's been likethey literally just like it's
like five of these, it's likefive dudes.

Speaker 1 (02:07:58):
I know you're talking about.
They've been like wearing themface masks and everything.
I can't remember their nameeither.
It's like a weird name too.

Speaker 2 (02:08:05):
It's like they show up and they just completely like
.

Speaker 1 (02:08:14):
What was that?
Group Retribution or whateverSome shit like that?
What was it?

Speaker 2 (02:08:20):
So funny that you brought that up because it would
be in Karrion Kross' match.
And then it turns out KarrionKross is like their boss or some
crazy shit okay, and then washe trying to get Sammy to join
the fold uh, no, just just tosay fuck you Sammy.

Speaker 1 (02:08:41):
Just to say fuck you Sammy.

Speaker 2 (02:08:43):
Just to say fuck you, okay, because you know, because
that's what they do.
Or even better, they just showup and they completely, and they
just write both of them.
And they just completely Well,I was going to say yes, both of
them or they show up and theyjust completely ruin the John

(02:09:04):
Cena and Cody Rhodes match.

Speaker 1 (02:09:06):
So next is all over again.

Speaker 2 (02:09:08):
Well, actually they couldn't do it for that match.
They'd have to do it for CMPunk and Gunther, because at
least that match can havedisqualification.
Because Cody Rhodes and JohnCena's match is a street fight.
So there's that.
Well, I mean, and John Cena'smatch is a street fight.
So what is that?

Speaker 1 (02:09:22):
Well, I mean the fact that it's a street fight.
I mean it could lead to a nocontest.

Speaker 2 (02:09:31):
Yeah or something.

Speaker 1 (02:09:33):
Yeah, that's a possibility, like if it's the
last match or whatever of thenight and they just wrecked the
ring just like how Nexus didright and it leads to the match
being a no contest.
But it would have to be thesecond night situation.
It couldn't be the first night,it has to be second night.

Speaker 2 (02:09:53):
Or scratch all of that.
Obafemi comes up and hechallenges Gunn, Because Obafemi
needs a new challenge, becausehe's literally beaten everybody
in NXT that would be a a worthymatch.
I'm going to stick with theObofemi one, because we can use

(02:10:16):
that for when Gunther wins orwhen John Cena wins and
Obofemi's like I'm going tofight you instead.

Speaker 1 (02:10:23):
I want y'all to know I've been wearing these way
before.
Obafemi been wearing them, bro.
I want y'all to know this, bro.
This been on my neck since 2019, homie, we been rocking these
forever, bro.
I want y'all to know I bewearing these.
I don't wear these just to thering, I wear these everywhere.

(02:10:45):
Give us the outro.

Speaker 2 (02:10:46):
Give us the outro.

Speaker 1 (02:10:47):
Anyway, give us the outro this motherfucker is my
brother and he is a hater.
It be your own family.
Alright, guys, if you haven'tyet, please like this video.
Chokeslam that like button too.
So subscribe and we will beseeing you on the next time,

(02:11:08):
because where the questions arereal, the ring is sacred
destruction guaranteed.
It's your boys with the bigbrothers of destruction podcast.
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It's your boys with the bigbrothers of destruction podcast
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