The Pipebomb

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of
the Big Brothers of Destructionpodcast.
It's the Masako.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
It's your boy Swag Switcher in the building and
real quick.
I just had a quick question toask do you need glasses or do
you just wear glasses becauseyou feel left out in the in the
world?
I?

Speaker 1 (00:34):
feel left out.
I feel left out.
I feel left out.
I ain't gonna laugh.
That's crazy.
I ain't gonna laugh.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
There are people out here literally getting laser
shot into their eyeballs andyou're all like.
I wish my eyes were a littlemessed up so I can wear glasses.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Like.
I want to be like my.
I want to be like my littlebrother.
You know what I'm saying.
We try to.
We try to be in our own ways.
You want to be good at thesticks.
You know I'm saying.
We try to be each other in ourown ways.
You want to be good at thesticks.
You know in the games.
You know.
You want your brother to teachyou how to play tech it a little
bit.
So you know what I'm saying.
I'm over here trying to be likeyou and wearing the glasses.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
There you go that was all I just wanted to ask real
quick, because I was alsolooking at your, like it was
your tiktok.
No, your uh, it was your TikTok.
No, your uh, it was yourSnapchat, and I'm like those are
blue light glasses though.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Those are blue light glasses though, so I do wear
those because obviously you knowon screens and stuff like that.
So the glasses I do wear areblue lights.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Okay, alright, so that's acceptable.
That's fine, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Just one I love how we start off an episode not even
with wrestling.
Just why the fuck is Mazwearing glasses, bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
I just had to clarify , just in case anyone else
wanted to know.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Ladies and gentlemen, like I said, welcome to another
episode of the Big Brothers ofDestruction podcast.
We got some definitelydefinitely got some interesting
topics to go along and it'sgoing to be going with a wild
week of wrestling, as usual.
And I know, swag, you watched acouple of shows or certain
things you didn't watch.
But I'm real curious on whatyour input on this wild week of

(02:26):
wrestling is.
I almost did it again to theworld week of what I almost did
it Um the wild week of wrestlingand what that was like for you.
Because, boy, I'm ready to talkabout one specific thing and
you probably know what the hellI'm talking about, so go ahead,
hit us with it.
This is.
I like to make this yoursegment.
This is normally kind of yoursegment.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Wild week of wrestling with it.
This is.
I like to make this yoursegment.
This is normally kind of yoursegment while rika wrestling.
Let's go ahead, as it's labeledwww in my phone.
Um, before I do, I wanted totouch back on something from our
last podcast that we wastalking about, uh, in regards to
our truth and how we make thecomparison about the hulk, and
so I went ahead and I did theresearch a little bit here and
turns out as I looked it up ooh,I should have done a little bit

(03:17):
better with my works citedinformation, but it is confirmed
and I copied and pasted it here.
But it was like Bruce isconfirmed and I have it, I
copied and pasted it here, butit was like Bruce Banner in the
comics and they say particularlyin the early iterations of
Bruce Banner is often depictedas having DID, which is the

(03:40):
dissociative identity disorder.
And it says, also known asmultiple identity disorder and,
it says, also known as multiplepersonality disorder.
The Hulk's identity isconsidered a distinct
personality within BruceBanner's erasing form and due to
his trauma of his abusivechildhood and the gamma

(04:05):
radiation exposure.
This is supported by variousHulk personalities that have
emerged throughout his story,each representing a different
aspect of his suppressedpersonality.
That's interesting, so justwanted to touch back on that to

(04:25):
reconfirm that bit.
And that also reminded me ofsomething else.
It was a scenario.
I wanted to run past you realquick.
So, like your promotion ofchoice okay, they hired you and
they're going to train you to bea wrestler and all this other

(04:47):
stuff, and so you're there maybelike five, six months, and then
they're like, hey, I know we'restill training you, but like we
got something for you, I'mgonna call you up, okay.
And so they put you out thereand you're doing your thing, but

(05:09):
nobody likes it.
They try to train you some more, but at this point everyone
just thinks you're garbage.
Is that your fault or thepromotion's fault?

Speaker 1 (05:28):
I don't know where the fuck you going with this
shit.
And I at first, when you hit mewith this, I was like, okay,
maybe you about to hit me withsome real shit you really
bringing up all this shit again.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
This is real shit, though it is.
It is, it is the world thinksthat you're, even though you
have been training your hardest.
You're trying to do your best.
They're giving you reallycrappy ideas.
You know you're trying to bethe maziku, but they're trying

(06:01):
to make you like this.
Something a little weird, butlike you're trying, okay,
everyone is saying that you'regarbage.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Am I working on myself outside of that promotion
?

Speaker 2 (06:14):
are you working on.
You are faithful to thispromotion.
They they hired you.
You're under contract with them.
So I would say probably notlike are you?
Are you talking like going toother?

Speaker 1 (06:26):
like okay, because, because you mentioned before the
first time I I failed and Icame back.
During that time of my failure,did I work on myself or did I
just kind of say, oh well, Ijust move on with life?
No, you've been training okay,you've been training.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
So you were, you've been training.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
So you were training before, Okay.
So okay, if this is the case, apart of it is me and a part of
it is the promotion.
You know what it is.
I just didn't get it.
It was not for me, becausethere are certain things in life
that is not for everybody right, Because you could train as
hard as you want to be insomething.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
If it's just not for you, if it's just not for you,
it's just not for you.
But a part of that method, alot of that, is the promotion.
But with that bit of youtraining because, think about it
, this is when you first startedtraining you got maybe about
like roughly six months oftraining, kind of all right, and
then they put and they threwyou to the, they threw you on tv
, right, and then everyone saidyou was ass.
So they gave you a little bitmore training, not a whole lot

(07:36):
more training, but they did tryto give you a bit of training.
I would say like, becauseusually, as someone who has done
wrestling training, normallyyou'll train.
I would say at the minimumyou'll train.
Like three and a half times aweek is usually how that goes.
And if you're an overachiever,usually there's going to be at

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least one day out of that threeand a half times a week where
you can go and it's like an openring type situation.
All right, but because of thefact that when you go back and
you're still trying to train,you're trying to train but
you're also got shows and datesthat you also have to still meet
because you're still undercontract, okay and so, but even

(08:24):
then, you did improve, you gotbetter.
But people still say you're atyour ass because of what has
happened prior.
And you have not.
You, some could say you havenot improved to the the
universe's liking, even thoughyou did actually improve.

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But at that point is it thepromotion's fault or is it your
fault?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
It's the fans.
It's also the fans too.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
It is the fans' fault .

Speaker 1 (08:58):
But I admit it, it's the promotion's fault.
Yes, it is the promotion's faultthat you were not properly
trained for the job or the thingthat you're doing.
You were not.
You were.
You were given chicken shit,expecting to make chicken salad.
But here is the thing where Iunderstand what you're trying to

(09:21):
do, but that is not the onlyfactor that goes into play.
You have let alone.
Yes, the promotion is the topreason why you are ass, right,
but then also you got to look atthe finicky nature of wrestling
fans who, even though you aretrying to improve and become
better, we are calling you ass.

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So that will get to anyperson's psyche.
That will create any kind ofissue for any person who's
trying to become better.
So while the promotion is atfault that you are not properly
able to do your job, it is alsoa portion of the fan's fault,
for while you are trying to getbetter, they're not allowing you

(10:03):
to.
For while you are trying to getbetter, they're not allowing
you to.
So even if that person is agreat wrestler, in the eyes of
the universe they are not.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
So it is the promotion's fault and the fans
for not giving that person achance to become better, then
why the fuck were you trying tojust put it all out of your
memory the other way?

Speaker 1 (10:32):
I did because, even if okay, this is why I said
before did that person get thechance to go out afterwards to
improve and become better?
Because every person that hasleft WWE goes out to the indies
and does something and becomesomething.
Look at Drew McIntyre.
Look at freaking um uh, uh,fucking um, what's his name?

(10:53):
Everybody they bring backafterwards when they leave WWE
and they come back to thatpromotion after they gone out
there.
Matt Cardona could bedefinitely coming back at some
point and he's definitely madehimself a well-known person in
the indies.
So here's my thing.
While, yes, wwe was reallytrash at how they presented Eva

(11:13):
Marie, what did Eva Marie doafter she left WWE?
Has she done anything after hersecond run?
Maybe she's probably saying, yo, wrestling has treated me this
way so bad, I don't want to doit anymore, but how?

Speaker 2 (11:27):
many after the second run.
That couldn't easily beinferred it could.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
But here's this, what this is what I'm going to say.
Then I'm gonna pull up nicknemeth.
Remember how he said how manytimes you know people keep
telling him why do you keepdoing this to yourself?
Why do you keep doing that?
Because I have to do you keepdoing that Because I have to do
it.
It is who.
I am right, it is a part of me,because sometimes you give, you
give, you give and you give andyou never get anything back.

(11:53):
If it was really that importantto her, she would have kept
giving.
Look at me as a sumo wrestler.
As much as I keep trying to getback into it and my body keeps
shitting on me, I keep fuckingdoing it.
I am literally trying to rest aknee injury right now, even
though my body says, boom bro,you probably a little too to do

(12:15):
this right now.
You probably need to loseweight.
But what am I doing now?
I'm trying to improve that.
I'm not giving up on that.
She gave up on that.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
He gave up on that after the second try.
Okay, and that's not what we'retalking about, though Okay,
we're talking about when EveMarie was actively doing and
pursuing wrestling.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Okay so.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
She's stopped pursuing wrestling at this point
.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Okay, but even the first time Go ahead Even with
that.
When she was first releasedfrom that promotion the first
time, right, what did she do?
Total divas, that's all she did.
She didn't push anything.
So when she came back thesecond time, it was like okay,
now my employer has hired meagain, now I get back into the
ring.
What was she doing after that,after that first time?

Speaker 2 (13:06):
after that.
First she did go and gettraining.
She trained, but if you couldremember, when she came back the
second time they I think shehad, like they gave her like a
really shit.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
They gave her a really shit comeback.
Hang on hang on.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
It's like she came back and she barely had matches.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
She was in NXT the second time, wasn't she?

Speaker 2 (13:35):
No, the first time that she was there.
So when you look at her spanright, she came and she was in
NXT for a bit.
Nah, she was in NXT for a bit.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Nah, she was in the main roster first and then went
to NXT Because, remember, shechanged signatures.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Nah, she was in NXT first, and then they brought her
to the main roster.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
But then why do I remember she went back to NXT?
For a reason.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I don't Now I'll have to double check, but I don't
remember her going back.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Maybe that was just me seeing her NXT run as that,
but I do remember her going backat one point and that was their
way of like giving her thatdevelopment.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
She was an NXT when she first showed up and when she
wasn't doing well because shewasn't trained, she was an NXT
kind of thing.
And then, but even then whenshe was in NXT, she really
didn't have a whole bunch ofmatches like.
She had like at the most maybefour matches, and then they

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brought her to the main roster.
And when they brought her tothe main roster that first time,
she kept on having the thingswhere it's like she'll come out
to the ring but then likesomething would happen and she
wouldn't have a match.
She'd come out to the ring, hertop gets undone and she doesn't
have a match.
Like a bunch of that kepthappening.
That went on for like damn nearlike a month and a half of her

(14:59):
just showing up supposed to behaving a match, but then the
match doesn't happen, and sothat went on for a bit.
That became her gimmick and so Iwas, like that kept on going to
the point when she just kind oflike fizzled out and
disappeared and they kind oflike stopped using her, and then
she went to train some more.
She trained with Natty, andBrian Kendrick is who it was-

(15:26):
kind of thing, and so shetrained with the brian kendrick
at the time, and a little bitwith natalia and so.
But then and then, like, aftergoing through all that training
that she did end up doing, um,once she went through all the
training she came back, but thenthey put her with piper nebit

(15:50):
aka or uh, with, yeah, withpiper aka dewdrop, and so
instead of her fighting, it wasmore so her putting dewdrop in
her place to fight and all thisother stuff, and then she barely
had matches.
I think it ended with her havinglike a match with Piper,

(16:13):
finally, where she got fed upwith being Dewdrop and then,
after that happened, poof, shewas gone again, but we still get
Dewdrop or Piper.
Happen.
Poof, she was gone again, butwe still get Dewdrop or Piper as
her name now.
And so it's like with thatcomparison to what I was saying

(16:36):
to you and saying, you know ifyou had when you put it, it's
like, because for me I won'teven put the fans in it it's.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
But that's the thing.
You have to put the fans in it,because the fans are the reason
why she got the the, the noisethat she got, even in her
matches, to kind of mess thissituation up, because you got to
remember wwe even though theysay they don't listen to the
fans, they do so.
The fans are constantly givingyou shit every time you wrestle

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or every time you have a match.
Wwe hears that and they willsay, okay, boom, and then they
gave her another thing and thefans just kept doing it.
They're not going to keep aproduct around if it's going to
keep getting like.
They're not like tna, tna,which they've.
Um, they have gambled on teslablanchard because, remember,
tesla said that the stuff shedid you know, racist comments

(17:34):
and any promotion outside ofmexico would not touch her with
a 10-foot pole.
But for some reason, tna sayhey, let's give her another
chance.
And she came back and you knowwhat the first fucking thing
fans kept saying Was she's aracist.
And that was every match, everysituation.
But here's the thing aboutTesla Banshee.

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That's different from Eva Marie.
Tesla can fucking wrestle, okay, and not saying that Eva can't,
but like, in a sense, everymatch that Tesla's giving people
is something fans enjoy.
So, regardless if fans aresaying that she's racist in the
audience, they're constantlytelling her you're racist,

(18:16):
you're this, this, and thatTesla still goes out there and
gives five-star matches.
Well, not five-star Goodmatches, right?

Speaker 2 (18:23):
I'm not fucking Dave Meltzer.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
I'm not Dave Meltzer, I'm not going to do that, but
she gives good matches.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Right.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
She gives good matches Even if the fans are
calling her a fucking racist.
It's not even you can't wrestle.
John Cena hears that shit andhe still does it.
So it's like, again you got toremember the fact that it's got
to be a part of one.
Yes, you were not properly putin the right situation, you were
not properly trained and stufflike that.

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But then, even if those twoscenarios gave you a shit
experience, we literally havesomeone who is being called a
racist for, like the first month, she came back to work Right,
and even when the situationhappened, she went to Mexico.
She went to go, still be inthat thing.
That really is a part of herlegacy and what she's connected

(19:12):
to.
Eva just said fuck it.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
She did say fuck it After being given absolute ass.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
But here's the thing If you were giving ass in wwe,
why not try tna?
Why not try another promotion?

Speaker 2 (19:31):
everybody else has done it but see the reasons why
and I can all and and I can't Icould almost say for a lot of
other people when it comes tothis, because there's a lot of
people who have only showed upin wwe did their thing and then,
once wd was done and I was like, well, that shit didn't work,

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they were like fuck it, becausewwe is it like wwe is the spot.
She probably, as far as herconcern, she probably did not
want to go anywhere else becauseWWE was the only place that she
wanted to have and call home,kind of thing.
There are people right nowfreaking Miss Glamorous herself,

(20:17):
which is something we'll talkabout later, but like she did go
to AEW.
But she has made it very clearthe only reason why she went to
AEW was to put her foot in thedoor to go to WWE and here's the
thing if, say, that moment withWWE doesn't work and she gets

(20:40):
fired, guess what she's gonnafucking do?

Speaker 1 (20:42):
go to another promotion.
She's not gonna give up.
That's the difference betweenit in this eva marie situation,
because, like, yeah, you havetwo situations where you are at
every person's dream promotion.
Right, every person goes tothis dream promotion as someone,
cedric alexander dreampromotion for him.
What does he do?
He's still wrestling, he'sstill going elsewhere.

(21:05):
No matter how you put it inthat situation with eva to me
you gave up on the thing that ifyou really cared about it, you
gave up on it.
Right, there's so many peoplewho get ripped away from wwe but
still keep going.
Fucking.
Eddie Kingston's a perfectexample.
He says he never wants to gothere because they're not gonna

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value him and this is his life.
So it's like, even if you werein WWE and they threw you a
brick, he's still gonna go backto the indies, he's still gonna
do something else becausewrestling is him.
You gotta remember Eva Marie washired for Total Divas.
She was hired for that.
So it was like, even if she wastruly a wrestling fan, you were

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originally hired for TotalDivas and then, with Total Divas
.
It was like okay, cool, we'regoing to put you in the ring too
.
And it just didn't work out.
It just wasn't for her.
She could have been a valet,she could have did something
else.
She just said nah.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I don't know about that.
I mean as much as I would loveto her to be a valet.
You know, valets are beautiful.
She'd be a beautiful valetBeautiful, but you know valets
is a dying breed.
It is a dying breed, but here'sthe thing.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing Eva wasalready hired because of her
look.
She's gorgeous, fuckinggorgeous, right.
So even with situations likethat, eva is still a draw
because of her looks.
And WWE, at that time withVince, is a guy who gives only a
fuck about how you looked.
He didn't give a goddamn abouthow you wrestled.
Who gives only a fuck about howyou looked.
He didn't give a goddamn abouthow you wrestled.

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So you're telling me the manwho literally used to make bra
and panty matches couldn't saylet's put Eva next to somebody
to look good.
With Matter of fact, make herdamn sable.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
She was with Mark Mark fucking what's his name for
a while and then became moreover than him, so you couldn't
just put her with somebody elseand make her eye candy now,
unfortunately, when it comes towhat you're saying, with that
piece, that part, we can'treally say on a yay or nay basis

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, or even if she, because sheprobably may have wanted to do
that, but she was only given thesticks that she was given,
which then led to her not beingin the place that she probably
wanted to be or even do thethings that she probably wanted
to do.
Because she's made, she made itvery clear that she wanted to

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wrestle, she wanted to get goodin wrestling while she was there
, but it was like that's thatwas not what the women's
division was doing at that time,because that was also still
kind of sort of, you know,leading off of the divas era, at
least for her first run, hersecond run.
You know we still had the wholeVince McMahon situation going

(24:05):
on at that time, and so withthat particular piece in that
bit I guess I can see what youmean by it is the fans, how the
fans can play a role into all ofthat.
And I mean, granted, the reasonwhy she ended up not coming
back is the same reason why theRock didn't come back, you know,

(24:27):
because she ended up gettingmore lucrative opportunities
that did not need for her tohave to be in the ring anymore,
especially after they kind ofdid her the way that they did,

(24:50):
kind of did her the way thatthey did like.
If I and of course, you and I inregards to her, of course we'd
probably go out and find anotherwrestling promotion and wrestle
over there and get our name bigand this than the other.
However, I don't know about you, but if, after trying and
getting shat on by the fans inwrestling and then the company
after I was trying to get betterkind of thing, if somebody else

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was all like, hey, listen, I'llpay you the same amount of
money that they was going to payyou to do this, to do this.
And I'm like and you and I bothknow, as we've talked about
before, sometimes the bag comesfirst.
It does If the bag is like, andso she chased the bag.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
And that is something that anybody would do, but what
I'm trying to say also as well.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
But I will say what you were saying about the fact
that she gave up.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Because the reason why I say that is because there
are some people Matter of fact,there's a lot of wrestlers in
this industry that they aregoing to choose wrestling first,
right, and granted, yes,they're going to be picking
what's good for their family,but they're going to also make
sure it's still in some wayshape or form connected to
wrestling.

(26:09):
Right, like I couldn't imagineDaniel Bryan Right, or Daniel
Danielson you know, brianDanielson Excuse me, that's a
Daniel Bryan, brian DanielsonLike he's going to be connected
in some way, some way shape orform, in wrestling, even though
he's been told all his time he'stoo small, he's not big enough,

(26:30):
he's not this, he's not that,and he's heard that all his life
, right.
But there are people that whenwe hear that shit in our lives,
think of how many times somebodytold you you couldn't do
something or something happenedto you, and you said, no, no,
fuck that, I'm going to do itRight.
She said she wanted to wrestle.
She said she wanted to get good.
Did she try it somewhere elseto see if, boom, was it just

(26:53):
them or was it me?
Right, she didn't.
So that's why I call it shit,because if you really wanted to
do this thing, as bad as you sayyou did, why did you not try it
elsewhere?
Right, and and that's why Ialso put myself in the shoe.
I always try to put myself inthe shoes of somebody else and,
like you, just put yourself inthat shoe too, of like, the bag

(27:16):
is more important, right, butthere's always going to be that
part of you that says, but wasit really me, though?
Right?
Have you never?
Have you never had that moment?
What to say?
Was it really me, though?
Right?
Have you never?
Have you never had that moment?
What to say?
Was it really me?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I, so I can say, yes, I've had that moment.
However, just like how we justgot done, saying it was the fans
and the promotions.
She does not have to say.
If it was really her, I wouldnot have to say.
You would not have to say if itwas really you, if you went

(27:54):
through all of that training andyou was trying to do yourself
this way and be as good as youcould, and then they was all
like, hey, because, as we know,there is a script, there's
things that you specificallyhave to do because that's what
they told you to do, kind ofthing.
You follow the script, but thenthe thing happens you go back

(28:24):
and you improved but, as you'resaying, the fans did not accept
it.
And then not only were the fansnot accepting your approval,
but the people that you work forare not making your case any
better, and so it's like youknow, you put your ass on the

(28:46):
line and went as far as aboveand beyond as your physical body
could do.
Therefore, once you got let go,it's not really a is it me?
Because you, you know it's not.
You know, if you put all youhad into something and you
really tried to make it a thing,so if you know it's you, then

(29:09):
why don't you prove them?

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Why don't you prove that, hey, you made the mistake
Because I'm going to gosomewhere else and be a fucking
star, right?
Because, yeah, any otherpromotion would see Eva Marie
coming from WWE and be like boom, put her in a fucking main
roster, put her, put her in thetitle picture, because you know
they do that in every fuckingpromotion.
That's not WWE.

(29:31):
If you come from WWE, we'regonna put you in the main
program.
Okay, cool, boom, go somewhereelse and show that.
Become undeniable.
That's what every fuckingperson says in wrestling become
undeniable.
So then maybe say, if she justsaid hey, just to prove to you
motherfuckers that I'm actuallya good wrestler, I'm going to do
one match and then, after I hadthat match, I'm never coming

(29:53):
back to wrestling it because itwas your loss, right, why not do
that?
That's all I'm saying.
I'm not saying that the bagwasn't big enough.
The bag wasn't, this isn't that, but it's like maybe she
doesn't feel like she has toprove herself, right, maybe she
just felt like okay, boom,that's what you guys feel.
Fuck off then.
But here is the thing that Iguess it gets to me is because

(30:18):
if you were and this is I don'tknow if you're quoting her,
right, I don't know if you'requoting her but if you are
quoting her, then it's gonna belike well, if you're quoting her
, but if you are quoting her,then it's going to be like well,
if you really wanted to wrestle, you really wanted to do this
thing, then why did you let thatstop you?
Why didn't you just trysomewhere else?
And if you can say it's thewhole, well, it's WWE.

(30:38):
That's where everybody wants togo right, to go right.
But, as we can see throughoutthe years, wwe is not the only
option.
It's the best option, yes, butit's not the only one.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
What she ended up doing would be the equivalent of
you went through all that stuff.
That just happened.
But then, because I don't knowif, like, we should talk about
your side hustle, but like Notreally, no, so in that case

(31:20):
let's just say, like thathappens.
But then in your case case,your side hustle, boom, takes
off, okay, takes, okay, okay.
And now your side hustle thatyou originally did hell just
like for her she did that priorto even doing wrestling type

(31:44):
thing but now your side hustleis making you the same kind of
money that wrestling did.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
I think my question is is my side hustle my passion,
or is my side hustle a sidehustle?
Because I think where my braingoes into is that wrestling was
her passion, right, and she gaveup on the passion for the side
hustle, right.

(32:11):
So is the passion the sidehustle Because then absolutely
fucking do that.
Or was the passion the originalthing you gave up on?

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Now, unfortunately I can't quite answer that for her,
because I don't remember Idon't I don't necessarily
remember like I know wrestlingwas something she was passionate
about, but because like rightnow she last I checked like she
was doing like a lot of stuffwith modeling.
She did some movie stuff andeverything like on-screen

(32:44):
personality things that she'sdone and she's also kind of sort
of like she kind of sort ofstarted like her own little like
business type ventures at thistime and so like.
But it's one of those thingswhere it's like, because that
other thing I wouldn't I don'twant to say that was, but

(33:06):
whether or not, if it was a likein my mind.
I mean Grant, I think I seewhere lot.
I see this with a lot of pastwrestlers that have done it.
You know it's like she did it,type thing.

(33:33):
There's a lot of wrestlers wholike, hey, listen, I got the WWE
, I got to do the thing that Iwanted to do in WWE type thing.
And to a small degree Westfordwas yay and nay and I think with
her I know there was a lot offact that was like there was
some negatives in that bit yeah,there was always gonna be

(33:56):
negatives around that time, yeahand so it's like at that point,
going back to it, it's like Idon't, there's nothing that I
need to prove, there's nothingthat needs to be proved.
She doesn't have to go out thereand go to TNA and fight because
, for all intents and purposes,she already got to the best

(34:18):
place that there was.
She did get to do what shewanted to do there.
It's just that they them, theydropped the ball on her.
She's got nothing to prove.
She didn't drop the ball, theydropped the ball on her.
I can totally agree with that,and so it's like that's not her

(34:43):
fault and even if the whole ideaof the fact of her going
somewhere else to prove herselfto be undeniable, as you said,
once again, that's not her fault.
It's not her fault that she didnot go and prove herself over
there, because at the end of theday, she became a big name on

(35:05):
her own, away from WWE, doingher own thing, whether it was
inside or, in this case, outsideof the ring.
So, for all intents andpurposes, she became undeniable
for herself, without having tobe in the ring to do it and
you're right.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
But if you're gonna tell me somebody says that and
again, I don't know if you'requoting this, if, if I'm hearing
that somebody wants to be in anindustry like that and then
suddenly you know, something ofthat nature happens, yes,
everybody has bad shit.
You know I'm in the industrythat I work in my actual job.

(35:47):
You know I've had multipletimes where I'm like yo, I feel
like the company is doing meshit, hell, that's the reason
why I got fired from my last onethat came up in May, got put
into a really shitty situationbut I went elsewhere and,
honestly, best place to be atright now.
I couldn't, honestly, I'm gonnahave to put you on at some

(36:08):
point.
Best place in the world to beat right now.
But it was still the thingwhere I still have a passion to
work in education and, yes, Ihad a really shitty situation in
an organization, right, butthat's where my passion is and
as much as I enjoy my sidehustle and that's why I feel

(36:32):
like it's a situational.
I really feel like it'ssituational because, no matter
how much we flip it, there'sgoing to be the ideologies that
you see in that scenario and I'mgoing to see it in that
scenario.
This is kind of why we'realways yin and yang on things,
because the way you may see itin that scenario and I'm gonna
see it in that scenario this iskind of why we're always yin and
yang on things, because the wayyou may see it and the way I
may see it is always going to besituational.
We can both agree to disagreethat what wwd wwe did to even

(36:57):
marie was shit.
We can both come to thatagreement that that is not her
fault for what she experienced.
But at the end of the day I'mgoing to always say, well then,
why didn't she just trysomewhere else?
And, yes, maybe that bag thatshe got was like well, fuck it,
I don't have to go back towrestling, all right.

(37:17):
And that's where that disagreeto agree situation comes at.
And no matter how much we havethat conversation on like yo,
well, she's doing better now,why does she need to wrestle?
It's going to be like well then, damn like, if that shit was
asked and you really wanted towrestle, why didn't you try
somewhere else?
You would have got in the dooranywhere.

(37:41):
So that's where we're going toalways have that conflict there.
But the only thing we candefinitely say WWE is at fault,
it is not her.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Well, I'm glad I was able to get to see you recognize
the error of your ways in thatparticular aspect, because last
week you said somethingdifferent, but and that was the
only thing I just needed to makesure that you actually saw.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
that was the only thing I needed you to see and
now that you've seen it, andhere is the thing, and this is
the part I want you to see right, even if that is the case, even
if she bad training, all that,I'm still only given what I am
given.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Right If at some point, because you're also a
fan- Exactly Because we're fans,exactly Because we are fans and
you didn't care about her likeI do.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You literally spent 30 fuckingminutes on a woman you cared
about just to get that boy tocross.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yes, but at the but I see where you're coming from
with the whole fact that shedidn't go out and do wrestling
kind of thing.
But, like I, just as we wastalking about, I did double
check and pretty much she didleave to go other places and to

(39:16):
do movies right, take her nameto other heights, whether in it
like her acting career and acouple of other personal
projects that she herself hashad, kind of thing.
So it was like right now she's,she's eating good and she does
not need wrestling.
However and here's the thingthat I go back on, because
there's a lot of people who Iknow that are like this when she

(39:38):
left though there were somesour points and whatnot, when
she did leave, cause she left,like whenever they kind of like
did, like the little budget cuts, situations and stuff like that
I thought they released her wedo.
Yeah, she was released, like youknow like they did it because
of budget cuts, okay they'rebudget cuts but, um, but it's

(39:59):
like when they let her go, likeshe did get let go on good terms
and, as I looked it up, she isopen to come back to WWE in the
future if the opportunity comesup, and all this other stuff.
However, she falls into thecategory of plenty other

(40:25):
wrestlers.
They don't want to go somewhereelse.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Okay.
So here's the thing Knowingthat she has the potential
opportunity to come back.
If she comes back and she isstill the same, are you going to
defend it?
Are you going to finally admitnah, this ain't it for her?

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Now, in that particular case, I know when
somebody's asked just for beingass, okay, I get that bit you,
you don't, you don't have to sithere and be all like oh, oh, oh
.
Are you gonna defend her aftershe botched?

Speaker 1 (41:09):
that's what I'm saying, because if we, because
if you're basically trying toput that she can wrestle, it was
just she was put in a shitsituation.
Ok, if she comes back and getsa new situation and has an
opportunity to prove that shecan wrestle and it's still shit,
are you then going to say it'sthe promotion's fault, or this

(41:30):
is just not it for her, or thisis just not it for her.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
I mean, if that be the case, then it would have.
Listen, if the promotion?
No, don't give me that You'renot answering the question,
don't give me that.
You give me that.
Oh, here we go, because youliterally are doing it, I'm
literally giving you now, okay,if the main conversation, listen
if the promotion brings herback and she is not good, and

(41:58):
especially if the promotion islike just freshly bringing her
in, like that, then yeah, ofcourse, listen, of course I'm
going to say like well, I guessshe screwed the boo but here's
the thing she's not.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
You're not thinking she's gonna train before,
because they're not gonna belike, hey, you're gonna come in
tomorrow, you're gonna boom, youknow, going to train before,
because they're not going to belike, hey, you're going to come
in tomorrow and you're going toboom.
You know what I'm saying?
They're obviously for her.
Because she has that background, she should have the ability to
go train, prepare for her match.
They're going to put her insome situations.
First, you know like get thehype going and stuff like that,
okay.
But then then, as they buildher up, build her up as they do

(42:34):
any wrestler if she finally hasher big breakout match.
The first match okay, you canhave some fumbles, right, you
can have some fumbles becauseit's ring rust.
Second match okay, you get inthe program.
Third match.
If every match in a series ofmatches are still that, then

(42:56):
what?
Because I think Monet is shitright now.
I think her matches are greatbecause the other wrestler is
making her great.
I do not like what Monet isdoing at this moment.
And there, for some reason,there is this thing where, while
people don't I'm not going tospeak for everybody I have seen

(43:20):
some things where people arelike just a little tired of what
Monet is doing because it'slike, while they'll say we don't
like her presentation, thematches are still great.
And a lot of people, includingmyself, are saying sometimes
it's because of the opponentmaking her great, but at some
point, when does it become?

(43:41):
You've had multiple matches toshowcase this and get better,
because, as anything you do inlife, you are never going to be
perfect the first time you do itthe first time you do it Excuse
me technical difficulties youare never going to be perfect

(44:04):
the first time that you do it,so we can't expect that right.
So when has it become a pointof you?
Just it's just not you.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
No, at that point.
No, I, like I said at thatpoint, you know her coming back
and that is like, and she endsup still not being good.
Then, yes, I, I would have nochoice but to agree with the
fact that, all right, I guess atthis point she has just dropped
the ball kind of thing, because, you know, because she wasn't
out getting her, you know, doingthe extra reps, or she did not
get the training that she, shedid not get the refresh and the

(44:46):
full, full extra bit of trainingthat she needed to on the way
in.
So I'm like, yeah, no, I'm like, I'm there with you on that,
I'm there with you on that, I'mthere with you on that.
You don't, you don't even gottalike.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
I just wanted to make sure I wanted to make sure
you're gonna stay in 10 toes ifthey give her a whole program
and the program's months andshe's doing matches in between.
She's going to house shows.
We also gotta take into accountif taking it back, if you're
doing house shows too, that'swhen you're supposed to fuck up,
alright, so you're doing allthese things right, and then at

(45:18):
some point, matter of fact,would you give it a time frame?
Would you give it a time frame?
Would I give it a time frame?

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Yeah, no, no, I would not.
I wouldn't give it a time frame.
If I find out, if tomorrow onRaw she showed up, then I'm like
, okay, it's game time, let'ssee what we do, and if it falls
south, then at that point I'mjust like that's first match.

(45:46):
I'm not even giving first match.
I'm not giving first match.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Okay, go for it.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
The reason why I would not give it first match is
because, compared to where wewas when she first started and
everything, and then where we'reat right now, the Performance
Center is 10 times better thanit's ever been.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
So you're not going to give her a ring rust, like,
okay, it's ring rust, you're notgoing to give her that.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
No, because I have ears at the performance center.
I've seen and heard what goeson over there at the performance
center, like the way that theytrain, the way they get people
ready and stuff like that listen.
Jade cargill is a prime exampleof what the Performance Dinner

(46:34):
can do for somebody Like she'sstill getting better, but now
Jade is at a point where she canhold a match one-on-one and not
feel like we're dragging out aGoldberg match, okay.
So it's like.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
I never really saw her matches that bad, but that's
crazy.
I always they were not likephenomenal when she was in AEW,
but they were like.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
What I'm not saying.
I'm not saying they were great,I just didn't think they were
trash, like everybody said, likeit was like, okay, that was a
match, like you know.
But there are people that waslike that's, it was like I
wouldn't say dog water, but itwas like they weren't great.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Right, and we're not good for a spot that they tried
to put her in?
Yeah, they weren't.
Now also, they weren't not justgood for the spot that they put
her in, but AEW also doesn't doa great job of hiding your
weaknesses, like WWE does?

Speaker 1 (47:33):
They don't, yeah, and that's why, and that's why AEW,
while it is not the all-Boption I mean WWE is the all-B
option.
Aew has its flaws too.
Every promotion has its flaws.
I will say that I feel like anywrestler who hasn't been in the

(47:56):
ring for a while.
The first match you are allowedat least ring rust, because,
granted, I know you havewrestled and I've done stuff in
high school, so I can't reallysay too much to it.
But there is a thing about whenyou do something and you
haven't touched it in a while.
Like me, getting back intomusic, my first track is
probably going to be ass.

(48:17):
I'm going to keep it above 50,which I have rapped in damn near
almost 10, almost 8 years,right, but there's going to be
that little bit of ring rust orthat rust of like okay, let me
find myself again, right, and Ifeel like that only well go

(48:37):
ahead.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
I was like, I feel like at least the first one I, I
kind of feel you, but the onlyreasons why I don't fully agree
is because of the fact that,specifically with WWE can't
speak for like AEW and thoseother places, because they're

(49:00):
weird, but, like with WWE,they're not gonna, they're not
going to embarrass themselvesanymore and just put you in the
ring with you not being able todo something or with them not
being able to hide yourimperfections.
Okay, so, like if Eva Marieshowed up and they're like, all

(49:26):
right, we're going to have yoube.
You know, we're going to haveyou in a program that's going to
lead you to be a Women'sChampion later on.
All right, cool.
So here's what we're going tohave you in a program that's
going to lead you to be awoman's champion later on.
All right, cool.
So here's what we're going todo.
We're going to take you to theperformance center and we're
going to have you workone-on-one with somebody and
we're going to make you look TVready, and that's what they're

(49:49):
going to do.
And if, for whatever reason,they feel like, all right, we
can't get her tv ready, they'llprobably.
The jay cargill is the perfectformat for that.
They showed her like, hey,she's coming, she's gonna be on
tv real soon.
And then they sent her to aperformance center.
And what did they do when theybrought her back?

(50:09):
They brought her back and theyput her on tv.
She may have had like maybelike three or four singles
matches by herself, just kind ofshow, just to show her off a
little bit.
And they put her in a tag team.
They put her in a tag team.
They put her a tag team becausea tag team especially since
they're kind of since it's likethat that on the clock, uh, you

(50:31):
training type situation, withher being in the tag team, she
has that time to.
When she's in the ring she canwork and do what she needs to do
and she can get her high spotsin the stuff that makes her
important.
And then, for all the stuffthat she's not good with, tag
her out and let Bianca do allthe work.

(50:53):
Let Bianca do all the work.
Let Bianca do all the selling.
So they put her in a tag teamand all that good stuff, but
what I'm saying is that she'snot going to get to that point
until they're like alright, youpassed the Performance Center
test, now we're going to sendyou out there.
So if Eva Marie isn't wrestleready anymore, we'll probably

(51:21):
never know that she's not,because they're not going to
just put her ass on TV like that, unless she is just going to be
a valet and she's not going tobe fighting like that or
something like that.
Like WWE.
They're better.
They're much better than whatthey used to be when it comes to

(51:41):
things like that, because, goddamn, they have a stacked roster
of NXT people.
They got these indie cats infreaking Evolve.
Is that Evolve?
Is that Evolve?
Yes, in Evolve.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Oh, yeah, Evolve, it's Evolve.
Then NXT, then WWE now.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Yeah, exactly so.
It's like because the fact thatthey have so much more extra
kind of thing, you know they'renot going just blow their load.
If you know, on on eva marie,if at this point like she's not
where they want her to be, kindof thing, at least right now,

(52:23):
kind of deal, like I said, andas they brought her back, then
it'd probably be just becausefor the valet purposes.
But sadly, as much as I wouldlove that like I would love
anywhere of any bit of that.
Valets are a dying breed and itmakes me sad.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Very much, you know.
What also makes me sad is thatwe almost spent a whole hour
talking about this and we haveway crazier things going on in
the world of wrestling right now.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
But it's a topic and it's something, cause it doesn't
just apply to Eva Marie, thoughI know.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
I know it's just the fact that we're revisiting it
and shit, and I've been reallyexcited.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
We were going to revisit it.
I've been.
Really, I needed you to see theerror of your ways.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
I I really wanted to talk about the crazy shit that's
going on.
I've been hype about it,especially when I was driving in
the car and I watched that shitlive, I was like, ooh, I want
to hear what the fuck he has tosay about this shit.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Well, let me.
What is the thing?
The fucking?

Speaker 1 (53:31):
pipe bomb, bro, the fucking pipe bomb.
Oh, the pipe bomb bro, thefucking pipe bomb, the pipe bomb
, bro.
You're telling me, bro, I'm inthe car.
He hits him with the AA, thebelt, and he puts him through
the table and then he grabs themic.
And you know what I said Isthis bitch about to do a pipe
bomb?

(53:51):
And he sat on a fuckingturnbuckle and he turned that
shit up.
Now, granted the pipe bomb tome.
It felt a little forced, right,but what was cool about it is
the fact that they fucking didit and the spiciness from it.
Now, you giving me this facemakes me feel like you didn't

(54:14):
like it, trash.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
You thought it was trash.
I didn't like it, I didn't carefor it, I thought it was stupid
, I thought it was garbage.
It's because, as you said andthe reasons why is just solely
because of what you said it wasforced Like it didn't feel
organic.
If anything, it was more so.
I mean, grant, if it makes medislike Cena as a heel, boom,

(54:53):
you did it, congratulations.
I've never, I didn't care aboutit, and then it's pretty much
it's like the whole idea.
Like for me it didn't feel likeit was some epic ooh.
It's not like John Cena reallyfucking said anything either, in
my perspective, like it wasjust like oh okay, he's doing a

(55:15):
rip pipe bomb here.
It's, you know, trying to pokefun at cm punk, because I think
this is like the anniversary ofthe pipe bomb, if I'm not
mistaken I don't know if it was,because if that, if it was the
same day, then that's not, thenthat that will destroy it.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Even.
My thing was it was the factthat this was the wrong time.
It happened, like if we wouldhave got this at like the
beginning of this heel run, eventhough it's not even connected
to Cody, I feel like.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Before you continue, I want to let you know June 27th
will be the anniversary.
June 27th, 2011, was when CMPunk did the pipe bomb.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
That's 14.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
So it's the 22nd right now, so whenever the 27th
is of this month.
So yes, 14 years ago, it isyeah, 14 years ago, and so I
mean I guess they could havestill done it on like for next

(56:33):
Friday If they was really tryingto.
But like, cause next Fridaywould be the anniversary of the
original pipe bomb.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
I mean the whole.
I know the whole thing was alsojust the summer of punk.
That was also a connection toit as well, but like, but no,
but what I'm saying is to yourlike, which was the reason cause
I think they said.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
I'm pretty certain they mentioned it the fact that
the original Pipe Bomb happenedthis month.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Next Friday would be the anniversary of the Pipe Bomb
, but I'm just like I don't careIf they did say that I think I
might have marked out so hardthat I didn't even realize that,
because when I they had to hardthat I didn't even realize that
, because when I they had to,because I don't give a fuck
about CM Punk like that,especially back then.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
So it's like I wouldn't have just known that it
was this month the pipe bombhappened.
I didn't know either.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
I didn't know either, and my thing was, even if it
was the case, I was more.
It was more of the fact that,like, oh shit, what is he going
to say?
Like, what is he?
Cause he is a WWE guy.
So if you're going to do a pipebomb, how is this going to be a
pipe bomb?

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Because when sorry, go ahead, maz Maz.
I have to know what did he say?

Speaker 1 (57:54):
So he talked about the fact that Punk is pretty
much the opposite of what hesaid he was, that he's a TKO guy
, and he did mention pretty muchwhat CM Punk already said to us
is that he's here for the money.
He's not the voice of thevoices anymore.
You're a fucking millionaire.
Like you're a big-ass hypocrite, right?
Basically called him ahypocrite.

(58:16):
In fact, like I, if anything,I'm really just staying true to
who I am now granted, he didgive those little hints which
apparently I found out theymight be also a little jab at
coke cabana, from what I heard,because apparently the initials
of Castagnoli I think it was, orwho was somebody said that it

(58:38):
was the same initials as ColtCabana and they said it might be
a jab to that and I was likewhat the fuck?
That's a reach, that's what I'msaying.
I was like that's a reach.
But basically everybody he hadmentioned were old, old wwe guys
and some people were saying thefact.
Well, to me, when I heard ittoo, it was one acknowledging
aew, acknowledging thecompetition and acknowledging

(59:03):
the fact that, you know, I amthe last piece of wrestling, I'm
the greatest of all time, right, and even if you look at the
original pipe bomb.
The only shit that really hithome is when he actually started
talking about stuff backstage,right For Cena's situation.

(59:24):
Yes, he is pointing out that CMPunk is a fucking fraud.
He is pointing out that theestablishment itself, that WWE
you know this is the lastchampion that you're going to
have, and also hinted to certainpeople that were I think they
were they did wrong, likeCastagnoli and all those people.
He like hinted to those people.

(59:45):
So that was the pipe bomb forme and the nostalgic piece
behind it.
So a part of it was againmarking out because, oh shit,
he's doing a pipe, mom.
But it was marking out to hearwhat the fuck he was gonna say.
And that's also what I wantedto hear how you felt about.
It was like, with the shit hesaid, what did you think?

(01:00:08):
And here I'm just hearing histrash.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
He did not say anything.
To me, there was like, let meput it this way, if you would
have taken what he said in thatpipe bomb, and then next week
John Cena comes out to the ringand CM Punk comes out to the
ring and they have one of theirCody John Cena discussion

(01:00:32):
moments in the ring that theyhad before would have been the
same thing.
He did not say anything new, hedid not say anything explosive
and, if anything, the way thathe was doing this whole thing.
He was so fucking goofy to me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
That's the part that took me out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
I couldn't no, that's .

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
John Cena just trying to be John Cena.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
John Cena yes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
He's never had an intimidating face ever, bro,
never.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Let me put it this way, because when the original
pipe bomb happened, this wasduring a time when I absolutely
hated cm punk as a wrestler, asa person as an entity yeah, no,
I.
I mean, I hated john cena too,but I hated punk, you hated punk
oh god yes hey, that'sinteresting I did not like punk

(01:01:38):
because of because the type ofperson that he was and the type
of person that in the way hepresented himself because he
doesn't drink I have the ring.
No, no, listen.
2011.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
I didn't drink bro, what are you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
talking about.
Well, I was 20 at that time,and when I was 20, I did not
drink liquor until I was almost22,.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
bro, nah, I tried to pass out, so it had nothing to
do with that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
I just had to hit you with that for a second bro, you
good, but like, yeah, no, butit had nothing to do with that.
It was just I just didn't likeCM Punk.
I, yeah, no, but it had nothingto do with that.
It was just I just didn't likecn punk.
I mean, grant, I didn't likehim because he was also a heel.
But then there was just thingsthat I heard about the way that
cn punk carried himself and howmuch of a dick he is.
Yeah, some people to people andlike just the shit that he would

(01:02:26):
say, and I was just like wow nocn punk's a shitty person and
some people still thinks he is,but it was like but even then,
at least when CM Punk did thepipe bomb, back then, like with
the stuff that he was saying andthe way that he said it, and
like the passion that he hadbehind it and everything, though

(01:02:51):
I didn't give a fuck about him.
I heard what he had to say andI believed it and everything,
though I didn't give a fuckabout him.
I heard what he had to say andI believed it and I was all like
, oh, he's really airing outsome dirty laundry right now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
John.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Cena just like and it's like John Cena can have a
serious face.
But through this whole Pipebombthing it was a parody.
As far as I'm concerned it wasa goofy-ass parody and, like I,
said everything that he said.
He didn't say new information.

(01:03:28):
He did say things that a lot ofus were joking about with CM
Punk because of the whole a-rapmoney and all this other stuff
and you know he said this, butnow he's going over there doing
this and stuff like that.
So like there are certain thingsthat he said, but it's like the
way that he said it in those inthe like there was no dirt

(01:03:48):
behind it.
There was no pipe bombexplosion behind the stuff that
he was saying.
So what if he said ClaudioCastagnoli's name?
We talk about Moxley all thetime in WWE, or at least Seth
Rollins has Like been there,done that.

(01:04:11):
Who cares?
It's like it had no substance.
It was stupid can we also talkabout cm punk sitting there for
like ever, and that was alsokind of comical too, but like,
but john c did the same thing,which is why I was all like this

(01:04:32):
is just a goofy imitation.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
There's a difference between the seated situation
when he was on the ground,because Punk was always at the
ramp Right, so he would have tomake an effort to come to him,
while Punk is just in the ringjust like sleeping.
Oh, this is my therapy session.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Okay, he's just sitting there, sleep, slumped in
between the tape.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
well, hey, just guess what swag.
He sold an AA.
You got some selling.
Well, you guys, this has been agreat podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
I'm glad we got to get the few talking points that
we got in.
You know what I'm saying?
This is your boy Swag Switcherin the building and yeah, y'all
have a good one for real.
It's just fun.
Turn the TV off for real, yoit's just fun.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Turn the TV off Yo.
Turn the TV off.
Turn the TV off Yo.
That is hilarious, bro, thenumber one thing.
But he sold it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Now listen.
We say this now After they havetheir match.
I swear to God, cm Punk, kickedout of one AA.
I'm on your ass, pause.
But I'm on your ass, pause,okay, because I'll be like hey
yo, where was that?

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
selling.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Where was the?

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
selling.
Then he got hit with the beltthough yeah, he got hit with the
belt.
He got hit with the belt thoughyeah, yeah, he got hit with the
belt.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Okay, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah he was really selling
the belt.
The AA was just get out of myface, get out of my face.
Oh my god bro oh my godabsolute madness.
You should be as shady as.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Oh my god.
Yes, that was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Can't even look at you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Take a moment.
Take a moment Pleasure.
So what I'm getting Pipebombwas trash to you.
What I feel is really trash isthat the Ron Killings mask was
just for show.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Oh, bro, that that just stacks on top of the whole
situation with the Pipe Bomb.
So I'm like Now you want totalk about something that was
good on SmackDown, Jacob andSolo's promo.
That that was good, that wholething Freaking Solo out here

(01:07:32):
trying to like get Jacob toaccept his apology and all this
other stuff, and Jacob was alllike nah, nah, bro, I don't want
to hear that shit.
Only way we're gonna get thisfederal and fixed up is if you
see me in this ring and we canput the title on the line.
But just know if you cross thatline.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
I'ma hurt you.
Here's the thing, though.
So basically, we fight it outin family feud, but are we good
after that?

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
that's a good question, but which?
That is a good question, but Idon't think they're gonna to be
good.
I know, Especially after youknow, considering what was said.
However, what I'm nowinterested in is like what big
Jim going to have to do in allof this, because he showed up

(01:08:31):
and he helped Jacob out.
So I'm just like, hmm, what wecooking up with this right here?

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
When you about to tag with your brother again.
Damn it, you ain't about to dothat.
You about to tag with yourbrother again.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
It's so funny the fact that, like you know, you
were so excited about this JohnCena and CM Punk thing and there
was so many better, so manybetter things that happened on
SmackDown.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
I was excited to hear what shit you were gonna say
about it, like because I knewyou were gonna give it shit.
I was excited so you alreadyknew I was gonna say that shit
yeah, because I was like I knowfucking swag is gonna fucking
think to fucking wild shit.
I knew it and I mark it out.

(01:09:19):
Huh, I'm marking out, huh, I'mlike, is it wild, though, but it
was what you were gonna say.
You know how.
You know your one friend, ifyou were next to each other when
the shit happened, you know,the moment itself would have
been fucking iconic, becauseyou've been talking about this

(01:09:39):
fucking bitch ass like I'll behonest with you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
I'm sitting here looking at this computer
watching.
As a matter of fact, it wasright here where my picture is,
right here.
Right, I'm watching.
And, bro, the longer it went on, the more I cringed.
That shit had me cringing.

(01:10:06):
And that's what I want to see,and to add to the fact of like,
because I do agree with you, itwas different when CM Punk did
it from the Titan Tron, becauseyou didn't see John, they didn't
have it on John Cena, the wholetime.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Yeah, you might see him every once in a while.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Like ugh, ugh, you know he slumped up against the
turnbuckle so he's like, ah,that shit did hurt, but like
just awkwardly sitting.
But CM Punk, because he's rightthere, cm Punk's got some of
that shit like that, put him outfor life.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Like I'm just like, like there's no medical
attention, no, nothing.
Yes, all of that Mm-hmm.
I feel like that would've madeit better though.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Oh yeah, if they had other people checking on him in
the ring In both ways?
Yes, for sure, both ways, butat the same time, because of the
fact that they only looked atJohn Cena a couple of times, but
they mostly focused on CM Punk,and so it was like, because of
that, it didn't feel as awkward,because they're both just right
fucking there and CM Punk hasto sell.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Pause.
Can we also remember the factthat it was a Slim Jim's fucking
table, so the pipe bomb wassponsored by Slim Jim.
Did you forget that part?
Yeah, WWE.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
I didn't forget.
Let me put it this way becauseI did acknowledge it and I only
acknowledge I.
And the only time Iacknowledged it was when john
cena went under the ring andpulled off the table.
I was in it only because oflike, because other people on
the internet complain about thatshit so much.
That was the only reason why Iacknowledged it.
The one time I was like hepulls it on, like oh, I guess

(01:12:06):
the rest of this segment issponsored by Slim Jim huh.
Then he puts him through thetable and then John Cena sits on
a turnbuckle and I'm like okay,what's happening?
Okay, what's happening?
And how I knew that this wasabout to be some goofy-ass shit
was when he like he startstalking, right, but his

(01:12:27):
microphone's working just fine,but he's acting as if they tried
to cut it off on him.
They didn't, by the way, likethey didn't cut the microphone
off on him.
Like, so he's talking, and thenhe just does the whole thing
and it's like and that's whenI'm like wait, is he trying to?
Like, do the pipe bomb?
This is so fabricated Becausethey didn't turn his mic off.

(01:12:52):
And then he's actually all likeoh what, you afraid of what I'm
going to say, while in my mindI just see the guy on the other
end, like what do you mean?
The mic's on, what are youdoing?

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
like like cena.
What are you talking about, bro?
I see the dog, he's like.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
He's like what are you afraid of?
This was like no, no, the mic'son, you're good, you're good,
go ahead, I turned it on, it'sgood, like it was like.
And then he starts going andI'm just like, okay, okay, and I
heard everything he had to say,but I'm just like, and he's

(01:13:30):
giving all these facialexpressions and you know it was
a joke, plain and simple.
The John Cena pipe bomb was ajoke, plain and simple.
Damn, the John Cena pipe bombwas a fucking joke, holy shit,
where CM Punk did a pipe bomb.
You know those fucking, thoselittle white TNT packs that you

(01:13:53):
throw on the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
He did the sprinklers from the death match is what
you're telling me not evensprinklers.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
So the death match is what you're telling me Not even
sprinklers.
You know those?

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Those little pop things that we throw them now.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Yeah, yeah that was a popper.
That's what John Cena gave.
He gave a popper.
That's all that was for me.
Okay, you know what was betterthan that pipe bomb?
Yeah, go ahead, oscar, going tothe finals.
You got it, goddamn right,oscar going to the finals on

(01:14:24):
SmackDown Goddamn right, youknow what was better than the
pipe bomb?
Randy Orton's match.
Hell.
You know what was better thanthe pipe bomb Hangman coming on
AEW and speaking on both promoand fan.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Bro, that shit was cold-blooded, bro, that shit was
fire.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Now, I popped for that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
I remember watching it because they translated it
too.
They did an upload where theytranslated it.
I was like yo, like I'm finallygoing to be able to learn
Spanish, my bro, what's up.
They did an upload where theytranslated it.
I was like yo, like I finallylearned Spanish, my bro, what's
up you feel me I was like nowthat's what I call cowboy shit.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Right there, that's the cowboy shit.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
I mean cause you will , as a cowboy you do often times
do with some Mexicans exactlywhich when he first came out and
then he started talking inSpanish.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
I was like, huh, maybe that's a little like.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
I was thinking maybe he'd just say hola, and then
maybe, like I'm you knowsomething small and then finish
the rest.
No, he kept going.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Oh he kept going.
And the more he kept going Iwas all like, okay cowboy, oh
you on some real cowboy shittonight.
Go ahead, I'll find out whatyou said later.
I like this and he did it very.
It's funny.
There were certain things thathe said where it's all like boy,
he sound real white saying thatin Spanish, but which I like to

(01:15:51):
call my wife, his spicy wife.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
She gave me she dap me up earlier she was having me
like help her up and you knowhow the contact of the dap it
was, it was solid and I was likeI went with them but continue.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Have I ever showed you the dap up tournament videos
?

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
is that the where Kaisa and I did?

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
wait, I forget.
I don't remember Kaisa and IKaisa and I did uh, wait, I
forget.
I don't remember kaisa.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
Not though kaisa not did a uh a thing back in the day
where he was in like a he'slike a prison scenario and they
were like trying to findsomething fun to do.
So what they did was get in acircle and they'll just dap up
everybody till they get the mostsolid dap oh, it's not that,
and because you have not seen,I'll hook you up later.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Yeah, but yeah, which .
When it comes to AEW, that wasthe only thing that was really
noteworthy.
Aew was the.
I think that was the first timeI felt like I watched like a
full on filler episode ofwrestling.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
Last day Like in a bad way well, for viewing
purposes.
No, because it was all goodwrestling, because that's what
aew does but when you saidfiller, I was thinking like,
okay, this was a pointless thing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Yes, Okay as in, just because, like filler episodes,
they're fun to watch but theydon't do anything to progress
the plot.
Okay, and nothing progressedplot-wise on the.

(01:17:37):
It was what did they call it?
The?

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
uh, aztec, aztec.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Um, it's aztec, something I know I can't
remember off the tip of mytongue because they was in that
famous arena in mexico and stuffand so like it was.
It was the biggest fillerepisode where I mean truly
nothing progressed, nothingprogressed.
Well, I mean, I guess, if youwant to say, the only thing that

(01:18:03):
I guess you would say is stillcanon as far as anything that
happened is the fact thatMercedes got her 1,000th one
time.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
She got another fucking belt bro.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
And the match wasn't even that good.
The match was.
It felt forced.
It felt forced and rushed andit was really quick.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Tony told CMML Ayo, I know you want to do this shit
because WWE Monet got to get thebelt.
Because I mark out for Monet,she sends me feet pics.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
And I feel like her feet probably ain't even that
great that's crazy, that's crazy, but no, I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
You remember she had a whole friend service we even
talked about in a previousepisode, for that specific
dollar amount.
What makes you think Tony'slike, hey, monet, where you at?
She's like I'm out here gettinga pedicure done, where, let me
see that pedicure, let me seethat, let me see that.
Anyway, let's continue.

(01:19:15):
What were the other greatthings about this week?
Because now we're finallyactually going into the
wonderful week of wrestling.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
I mean so Well, do we want to talk about the great
things or like the stuff that'sass?

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
We can talk about the good, the bad and the ugly.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
Oh, that's a good, all right.
So in that case, if we'retalking good, bad and ugly, oh,
that's a good, all right.
So in that case, uh, if we'retalking good, bad and ugly, um
number one, um, I have to say Iam absolutely down with uh trick
williams and the things thathe's doing with first class.
I will agree, um, like thatshit has been fantastic.

(01:19:58):
Also, the glamour signing hercontract and facing up with the
Women's Champion.
A lot of people are saying thefact that they're going to give
her the belt, like ASAP.
Yeah, she is Like, she's good,like, because they're having
this whole tournament right now,right On NXT.

(01:20:18):
Who?
Who I think was Jay Parker LashLegend.
What's her name?
Like Izzy Dane or whatever?
and for some reason I forgot whowas the last person to get the
spot.
But this next coming NXTthey're supposed to be having a

(01:20:39):
match to see who's going to bethe number.
But this next coming NXTthey're supposed to be having a
match to see who's going to bethe number one.
Contenders for the title, kindof thing.
I think that person's supposedto fight at the all-woman's
pay-per-view.
That's supposed to be coming up.
Evolution, yeah, the evolution,and so that whole thing is
going on.
I did make a note the fact thatLash Legends theme song sounds

(01:21:05):
goofy as hell.
It sounds rebel.
It doesn't sound good.
It's so weird.
But I also need to see how doyou feel about the new Mariah
Mae?
I forget what they gave hername now.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
Because I just called her.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Miss Glamour.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Blake Monroe.
There it is.
Yeah, you go, Blake Monroe.
I know Marilyn Monroe isconnected to it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
How do you feel about this gimmick right now that
she's got?

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
I mean, it's literally timeless.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Is that all you got?

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
I mean because it's literally the same shit.
It's just now.
She's more of a Instead of theold school movie scenario with
Toni Storm.
This is more of a updatedversion, I guess, but she's
still the same woman, it's justthe name is when Toni Storm is

(01:22:16):
timeless.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
You know, old school era, early to late 1940s.
Film Monroe is mid to late 50s.
She has color, kind of showingExactly Literally she has color.

(01:22:38):
She has color, showing exactlyliterally she has color, and so
that that's the perfect way toput it.
I was just, I was curious tosee what was your take on her,
considering the fact that youknow tony storm is your woman
and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Like she's timeless.
Um, uh.
I feel like I mean, the gimmickis great.
I'm gonna see how she does itin.
You know, nxt.
The thing that tony does thatmakes the gimmick great for me
she does amazing funny asspromos.
Her wrestling is.
It's good, but it's thecharacter that sells me more

(01:23:17):
than anything else.
So with uh monroe, if she haseither one a similar character
or similar style, now we'regoing to be put into the
situation oh, I agree, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
I myself am eager to see how glamorous versus
timeless is going to kind ofsort of portray itself as these
two different entities.
Because I just wanted to see ifyou were also going to say
because I didn't want tooutright say it myself.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I meaneverybody else is definitely

(01:23:54):
saying that, like a lot ofpeople are saying it's like so,
she's just a rip off.
Uh, tony Storm is what we'redoing right now, literally and
so and so, like I mean it is but, but also a part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
A part of it could be the fact that, like Tony and
her are probably really coolfriends and she's like, hey, you
know what, take it and go toWWE.
You know cause some Take it andgo to WWE?
You know Because some wrestlersdo that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
I wish I could get confirmation on that, because
you say some wrestlers do that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Well, with moves, especially Wrestlers that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Do that usually nine times out of ten're like, yeah,
you can do it, because I'mfucking retired and I'm not
doing it anymore.
Timeless toady storm.
She is white hot.
Right now she is prime okayshe's undeniable, she's

(01:24:57):
undeniable sure where, becauseshe's in the spot that she's in
right now.
For our glamorous one to bedoing what she's doing right now
and be so close to Tony Storm.
Listen, you know, in the pastthere are dudes who said I would

(01:25:20):
have pulled a gun on thatmotherfucker if he tried to take
my try to use my gimmick likeget out of here while I'm still
actively doing it.
I'm interested to see, becausethe difference right now and I
can't even say the difference, Iwould say what makes Tony Storm
what she is right now, and Ican't even say the difference, I
would say what makes tony stormwhat she is right now is the

(01:25:42):
fact that she not just full tilt, she just completely flatline,
falls into her gimmick that shehas put in.
She goes 120 percent in on thistimeless thing, which you have
to, because if you don't do thatthen it comes off very Dr

(01:26:06):
Yankum's-ish.
And so I'm curious to see howfar of a tilt into this 1950s
glamour that we're going to gointo, aka timeless with color.
I'm very interested to see how,if she's going to go full tilt
into it or if this is just a tap, because right now it's too

(01:26:31):
early to see.
It's too early to seecompletely, but it looks like
they're trying to touch into it.
But I'm like if she's gonna usethis as a gimmick, she's gotta
go full gimmick, not gimmick inthe sense that, yeah, this is
like my thing, but I'm justgoing to still be a normal

(01:26:51):
person.
So so there is that um and so Iguess now to the the bad and
the ugly stuff here.
I did bring up about Asuka, butdamn, I'm so glad she's back bro
.
I missed her so much and shehad such a strong match on Raw.
However, I was just like man.

(01:27:12):
They really put her.
They already trying to give usthat taste of her versus
Stephanie ooh, okay, alright,y'all a little crazy for that.
Rae trying to give us thattaste of her versus Stephanie?
Ooh, okay, all right, y'all alittle crazy for that,
unfortunately, liv Morgan fuckedher shoulder.
Hate to see it.
Hate to see it.
Shout out to Jey Uso winning,because he was the mystery

(01:27:37):
person that got put into theFatal 4-Way.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Which a lot of people are really pissed about that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Are they pissed that he got put into it?

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
Or are they mad that?

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Cody Rhodes came out there and completely took his
shine away.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
No, it was pissed off that they could have put
somebody else in that slot, butthey put Jey U uso after he just
lost the title.
So he literally just lost thetitle and he's being put in the
king of the ring where he canget another opportunity to get
it back yes, and I'm actuallyglad you said that, because I
also made the note of fact, like.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
So I guess that the rematch, rematch clause just
doesn't exist anymore for people.
We even brought that up too.
Yeah, or did Jay not get arematch clause in his contract?
Because if not, I need somebodyto start reading his contracts
for him, because that's booty.
Because, gunther, he got hisrematch clause.

(01:28:35):
Yeah, like he got his rematchclause and he cashed in on it
and he got the belt back, butJay has to go fight the king of
the ring for it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
Mm-hmm, you know what ?
Don't tell that to Rikishi,don't tell that to Rikishi, oh
bro.
Don't tell that to Rikishi.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
Listen, I saw a small piece of his crash out about
his son losing, and then thatleads us to the ugly.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
Oh, Goldberg oh please, jesus Christ, no, oh my
god, oh man, that was a terriblepromo but go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
Next World Heavyweight Champion no, he's
not.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
No, he's not, no, he's not.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Oh, now we're seeing Gunther winning this.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
Oh, you said, he better.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
Yes, yes, because he say, he better yes.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
You say he better?
Yes, because he said he wantsone match.
Goldberg said he wanted him toretire him, so he's not going on
another run, he's just doing amatch.
Okay, I guess we'll say hebetter, I'm supposed to.
Everybody said that that wasthe reason with the whole
matchup, like when they did it,bad blood or whatever was like

(01:30:00):
to hype it up so that Goldbergcan have his one final match and
he was supposed to have it andit's supposed to be whatever he
has.
It is donezo, donezo.
Yeah, do you not feel?
Do you feel like he's gonnakeep going?

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
so when Goldberg gets the title, oh, buckaroo, tell
me how it's going to run for you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
How is that going to make you feel I'm going to say,
hunter, how the fuck are youalways complaining about the
fans and how they hijack theshow and do shit like that, and
then you do shit like this,because then that's going to
make me call him a bitch theproblem is for me and because I

(01:30:55):
hope that those words that I'msaying don't come to fruition.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
However, did you hear that Green Bay pop for Goldberg
bro?

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
I mean, it's Goldberg's thing, bro.
When that shit comes on, youget hype.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
Did you hear how hype they was when he said that he
was going to fight and fight forthe title and all that stuff,
bro?

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
No, oh, you didn't.
No, I mean they weren't.
They shouldn't have been hyped,they shouldn't have.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
Bro, but they were.
I know it was something thatpeople was talking about.
And boy, oh, boy, busted openthat boy, dave Pham.
I love his crash outfit Crashpeople was talking about.
And boy, oh boy um busted openthat boy, dave fam, I love
crashed out, crash out his crashout sessions are so
entertaining to watch and it'srightfully so, like I feel like

(01:31:52):
he gets he crashed.
Zion gets completely bent outof shape so that we don't have
to.
He's doing it for us.
He is losing his, his sleep inhis voice, so that we can sleep
soundly at night when BS likethis goes down like I.

(01:32:18):
Just I think what I hate aboutit is the fact, like you know
and he was touching on this isthe fact that, like you know, we
will complain.
It's it is the problem withmost wrestling fans is the fact
that you know we'll complainabout somebody else, but then

(01:32:39):
we'll we'll forget in the samebreath about the thing that we
just said.
Will complains like man.
I hate when part-timers come inand take the spotlight.

Speaker 1 (01:32:53):
And then a part-timer comes in and does the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
And then a part-timer comes in and is like man, I
can't wait to see that match andit's all like you, just you,
just Okay, alright, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
It's how wrestling fans are finicky.
Wrestling fans are finicky.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Like it's it's, but yeah, Goldberg getting the belt.
Reimash Claus is saying he'sgetting it, but yeah, goldberg
getting the belt.
Rematch clauses are dead, hesaid he's getting it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
God damn bro.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
Rematch clauses are dead.
Jey Uso gets outshined by CodyRhodes, like Jey still can't cut
a good promo.
Four letters, one word.
Jay still can't cut a goodpromo four letters, one word.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
I was trying to think of a word because you can't say
ass, that's threes.
Oops, isn't that more than fourletters?

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
no, I'm thinking of no, no, no, no, no no, no, no,
no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
Oops is right because it's two O's.
Yeah, can't say trash, youcan't say ass, can't say bad,
none of those things come tomind.
But we could all say thoseabout his promos and it's just
unfortunate because it's like ifRikishi's going to complain as
much about you're not giving hima chance.

(01:34:23):
Matter of fact, I can't evensay Rikishi fakes his promos
because you didn't even have agood promo game, sir, you didn't
even have a good promo game.
I was literally about to try tobe like yo man help your son.
You can't even help your son.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
You can't even do it Like fuck.
What's the last?
Besides, I did it for the Rock.
What was the last promo?

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
He did a good one against Austin.
He's like Austin, this is whereI ran your ass up.
That was like that one sentence.
That one sentence was like ohshit, everything else Nope.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
That's not a promo, that's a statement.
That's a statement, man.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
I know, but it's like fuck.
It was a part of that promo.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
Give me one iconic.
That one, one iconic.
That's not that I did it forthe rock damn that nigga ain't
got one fucking thing shitbesides the fact that he could
dance his ass off no punintended, but yeah nah, bro,

(01:35:40):
just it's ass off, no punintended, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
Nah bro, it's God damn.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
The wrong twin got it .
Man, it is what it is the wrongtwin got it.
I stand by that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
Yeah, the wrong twin did get it, you're all right.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
I stand by that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
Here's the thing Jay ain't winning, like Jim is right
now.
Do you see how?
Naomi's right now?
Bro, that nigga, he always bewinning, but that nigga is
really winning right now.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Damn listen, I mean.
He don't need the boat.
God bless Naomi for keeping BigJim relevant.
He don't need the boat, godbless.
God bless Naomi for keeping BigJim relevant damn, damn, damn,
bro, for real bro, I love myUsos.

(01:36:36):
Alright, dog, I love them, butBig Jim is.
Big Jim is spinning wheels.
He's trying to get it in wherehe could possibly fit it in.
Okay, and the only place hemanaged to get that was by
trying to jump in and help outthe United States champion who,

(01:36:57):
just so happily, is his cousin.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
That shit's crazy, that shit's crazy, that shit's
crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
So because like he's not, he's in, he's like in
spotty matches, you know, notdoing nothing, he's not doing
anything, and it's like he's theoosh that can hold a promo.
And he ain't had a mic in hishand since Gunther made him
drink his own blood.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
Hey look man, he's also the only person that
slapped the piss out of Guntherand lived to tell the tale.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
Yeah, because Jay didn't do it, jay.

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
Only told him go talk to your mama and embarrassed
him.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
You know, man, it's some wild foolishness out here
right now, like I mean lo andbehold, great matches, but
there's people are so up in armsabout this goldberg thing, like
the way people feel about jayhas been like, when I see people

(01:38:13):
who know wrestling, they'rejust all like yep jay's the lost
cause.
The people who I know who watchwrestling, who are like big
fans, are all like I wish youwould say something like yep
jay's the last cause.
The people who I know who watchwrestling, who are like big
fans, are all like I wish youwould say something foul about
jay.
So I'll beat the shit out ofyou.
Like like people real stronglyfor jay, but at the end of the
day, I'm just like man, jaycan't do it for himself right

(01:38:34):
now.
Like and you know, if theycould put put Jay in a spot
where he did not have to givehim promos, because it's not
like he gives bad matches, hismatches are great, the yeeting
is fun.

Speaker 1 (01:38:52):
No, that's the video I wanted to see Dude working at
a firehouse sub and he's yeeting, he's doing it in the office
and I think his manager comes upand turns that shit.
The fuck Turns it off.
But I see that on your Facebookmessage.
Damn he, just he just doing ithard, he hard body, he into it.

(01:39:17):
And you just see the employeecome up to the radio.
Just the fuck, I'm a littlepoor.
Ruka, but yes, speaking of,Before we go into anything else,
real quick, we're talking aboutall the yes, it's Facebook
Messenger, by the way, it'sFacebook Messenger.
All this reminds me of theoriginal topic that I want to

(01:39:42):
bring up, which I'm gonnaprobably bring it up for next
episode.
Give you a chance to.
I'm gonna.
I try to not give you too muchtime to prep, but I'm gonna
treat you like batman today.
I'm gonna give you some prepbecause because we've already
had this scenario where wethought we knew each other as
wrestling fans when it comes tomusic I want to know, unanimous,

(01:40:03):
what are our top, fuckingfavorite wrestling games of all
time, top tens.
I want to know because Ialready know we have one.
We have one that will probablyrank in the same category and
that's a given, but now I wantto know what other games in that
ranking system for you, is yourtop 10.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
That's a heavy one.

Speaker 1 (01:40:29):
There's one that I know absolutely we're probably
going to rank as boom.
Yeah, like we can shake handsbut the other ones out of a top
10.
And this will be hard for metoo, because that's going to be
like a full.
And this doesn't have to bejust WWE, by the way.
It could be any wrestling gameit could have.

(01:40:52):
It could be the car racing game, it could be the whatever, even
the mobile immortals game Ifthat was your shit, boom,
whatever.
But it has to involve wrestling.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
Fam.
I'm not gonna lie, I wishWrestling Immortals was just a
console game.
I really wish that we couldjust got Wrestling Mortal Kombat
, because that would have beenlit.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
That game would have been a thousand times more
playable and fun but before weend off today's episode, I want
to say again, guys, thank you somuch for sitting out here
watching us ramble talk aboutthe things that we love about
wrestling, the passion that wehave behind wrestling.

(01:41:43):
As wrestling fans for multipleyears, I mean, this is what
we're going to do.
That's what every wrestling fanis going to do.
We're going to have thesemoments where we could sit here
for hours and just shit on onesituation scenario.
Give hypotheticals, all thatkind of stuff.
That's just what we do, right,and we appreciate you guys being
.
One situation scenario.
Give hypotheticals, all thatkind of stuff.
That's just what we do, right,and we appreciate you guys being
here along the journey.
If you have any of your owninput that you would like to do,

(01:42:06):
guys, put it in the commentsection.
We'd love to hear it.
We're missing some of you guys'comments, right, and as well we
again.
We are on all streamingplatforms Spotify, apple Music,
wherever you get your podcasts,please check us out BBOD Podcast
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Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
It's the Masako, and it's your boy.
Swag Switcher in the buildingand until next time.

Speaker 1 (01:42:31):
Saddle me out, I like it.

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