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Speaker 1 (00:09):
and welcome to
another episode of the big
brothers of the destructionpodcast.
I'm gonna tell you this rightnow the energy in the room,
wherever you are, whereveryou're listening to it's going
to be very shifted after thisepisode.
Because WrestleMania happened.
(00:29):
Some of the predictions camethrough, some of them didn't,
but one thing for certain JohnCena is the new heavyweight
champion, universal champion,and we got a lot to talk about.
First and foremost, it's theMasako.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It's your boy.
Swag switch in the building.
What can I say?
Wrestlemania it was.
It was okay.
You know it was okay.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
There are a lot of
hiccups when it comes to the
show good and bad and we'regonna obviously dissect the show
and kind of give our opinionson each match, whether, if it's
good, the bad, the downrightugly.
So I think that's just a greatway to start off because, man,
we got a lot of matches I thinklike 10 matches to review and
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talk about.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's like a normal
AEW pay-per-view, just spread
the two nights as opposed tojust four hours, five hours
straight and here comes swagswitches, hate on AEW.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It never fails.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I wouldn't hate.
I'm just making a comparison.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Ah, alright.
Well, let's just kind of go tothis card and let's see if it
compares or matches up to an AEWshow.
How about that?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Oh listen, I'm going
to tell you straight up right
now.
If I was to compare AEW's lastpay-per-view to this
WrestleMania, aew kind of wonwhat.
As I'm getting into this, therewas a discussion in the group
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chat that was something I wasgoing to bring up, but I
couldn't bring it up because ofthe fact that WrestleMania was
so fucking close.
And so it was the fact that alot of guys in the group chat
were all like you knowWrestleMania's kind of feeling
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mid and I, when you look at thebuild-up to WrestleMania, I was,
because that's what they waskind of referring to.
They were like you know what,there's nothing that has
happened that made me feelinterested in wanting to watch
WrestleMania.
And I was like, really, andthey gave their reasons, watch
WrestleMania.
And I was like, really, andthey gave their reasons and
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whatnot.
But I was like, and the reasonsthat they gave, I couldn't quite
myself agree with them.
But then it had me wondering.
I'm like do I have rose-coloredglasses on?
Are they seeing things clearerthan what?
What I am?
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But I dismissed it becauseafter that little conversation
it was a very fire smackdownthat happened and you know,
things have kind of sort ofcontinued on as they did and,
you know, things have kind ofsort of continued on as they did
.
However, once WrestleMania hascome, I don't think it's so much
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that I had rose-colored glasseson, it's just the fact that
there was a lot of buildup and alot of expectations and they
dropped them.
They dropped them hard.
Talking about dropping thingsvery hard.
Gunther and JUSO Number one Goahead and speak on it.
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Sure, sure, my predictions.
My discus lariat was a miss,which it was supposed to be, but
I would have preferred myDiscus Lariat over everything
that happened in this match.
This is a person, jay, whowatched his brother die right in
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front of his face.
Who watched his brother dieright in front of his face?
Okay, his brother wasdiscontinued by our boy, gunther
Jey Uso's.
All like you know what.
After watching you discontinuemy brother right in front of my
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face, I'm not scared of you, nomore.
And you know how.
I had to have that conversationwith my mom about everything
that had happened and youdiscontinuing my brother in
front of me and all this otherstuff You're going to have that.
I'm going to make sure you havea similar conversation with
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your mother.
Ladies and gentlemen, that toowas a lie.
I'll give it to Jay.
He went out there and he foughthim, but for someone who
literally watched a man wipe theblood that he spilled of my
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twin and he licked it, tasted it, spit it out, rubbed it on his
chest and made you watch, andyou're just going to go in there
and use his moves, the powerbomb and and and put him in a
quick sleeper hold and that's it, that's it, that's it.
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That's really what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Okay, all right, very
lackluster indeed.
Right there, I mean even peoplethat haven't been watching
wrestling, like my homeboy Nuki.
He came over, he's watching thepreviews and stuff from that
night and he was like wait,that's how he lost.
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I was like, yeah, that's how hesays so fast.
He even looked at the situationand said this should not have
happened.
And if you go to the YouTubechannel, they even agree.
Apparently, jey Uso winning thetitle has gotten over 40,000
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plus dislikes compared to the27,000 likes.
So the audience is alreadyshowcasing that the win was not
earned and I have to say, evenwatching his post show interview
, I don't know if this man wasdrunk, I don't know if he's just
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got the jitters.
He's just not able to talk.
All of a sudden he was talkingbefore, like when the bloodline
stuff was going on.
Maybe paul hayman was writingthat stuff, but like he can't
talk to me, he just he can'ttalk you're right, I it's, it's.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I don't know what's
been going on with it.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I don't know either,
and honestly I didn't want to
rant about it.
But I'm kind of getting to apoint of, like I knew
WrestleMania was going to be,them yeeting it up, and here's
the funny thing you even said,yeah, you had that prediction
right, but he didn't even do it,and so it was like what the
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fuck?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
There were so many
weird things Because, to that
point, you were saying that,right, so he comes out to the
ring, right, he's game face.
Everybody's yeeting and stufflike that, however, but he's not
he.
He walks down from the top bowlof this stadium that was okay
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stupid all the way down to thering and he did not.
He stopped a couple times, buthe didn't stop to do any eating.
Then he gets.
He gets into the ring, doesn'tdo any yeeting.
I'm like, okay, cool, I canunderstand that.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
You know he's
supposed to be serious.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Okay, then this spoil
of a match happens and it's one
of those things like it wasn't.
The match in itself wasn'tterrible.
It was, but it was a C rank.
It was a C that was at best.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I almost give it a D
barely made it, barely made it
no, I'm gonna stick with C be,but it's real, because that tap,
that tap was made.
What made it d bro, it wouldhave been a c if it was a
reasonable win and uh, uh, yeah,I guess.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Well, see, the tap in
itself wasn't what made it a c
or a d, however, like when Iwrote, like, coming down to it
like yeah, yeah, it reallywasn't it was, it was a d like
it.
There were.
There were many other options Icould, they could have did, but
it's like.
But going back to what I wasexplaining, though, is the fact
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that that happens he wins, hewins and he actually still does
not eat.
I expected him to becelebrating like crazy belt over
his shoulder, there's so muchyeet and they cause a tornado in
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the middle of the arena.
He didn't even do that.
He just kind of like I got thebelt and I'm gonna walk around
with it and I'm gonna walk backup the the crowd and let bitches
yell in the back of my ear andyo, let's not go back into that
dumb shit bro.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Nah man, he just, he
just goes back up and that's it.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
There's no yeet
celebration and whatnot.
There was no him with the beltin his hand.
Hey, run that back one moretime, okay, nothing, nothing.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I don't know what has
happened to him, but he is
feeling so much like afederation guy nowadays, like he
feels so.
The world wrestling federation,sports entertainment, that old
school, just Hulk Hogan, likestuff, and the problem is, at
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least they could actually getthrough a promo okay, their
promos were hype yes, they werehype.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
You know, as much as
we dislike hulk hogan I'm sorry,
as much as we dislike terry beaHulk Hogan the character
whenever he would come out thereand he would say his thing,
spit his stuff and whatnot.
There was rhyme and reason toit and he finished his sentences
and he ended with your whatyou're going to do when macho
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man will come out there and talkhis shit, though it did not
make sense.
It all was a full conglomerateof a complete thought, whether
or not he understood what hiscomplete thought was or not.
Hell Ultimate Warrior.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I was just about to
say that shit.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
He yells, he would
grunt, you know, like all of
this stuff.
But he had a complete thoughtand he got it across.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I, dead ass, was
waiting for you to finish this,
cause I was about to say thatsame shit.
I was literally about to sayeven ultimate warrior can cut a
better promo and all his shitwas you know the warrior like
nah bro.
Um, that's crazy.
I we could talk about thismatch, this feud, for hours,
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because this alone was thefrustration that we both had
going into this mania All theother matches the whole time all
the other matches were likeokay, you know, we'll see what
happens, but this one, this onewas like man, you can make or
break it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Listen, they took us
on this little, small, tiny
roller coaster that was up anddown, up and down.
We don't it.
Listen, they took us on thislittle, small, tiny roller
coaster that was up and down, upand down.
We don't care.
Okay, we kind of care.
Okay, we don't care.
Oh snap, we care now.
And what did they do when wegot us to care?
They didn't give us theloop-de-loop, they didn't give
us a corkscrew, they pumped thebrakes in the ride and did it.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I'm just like very
much and um, especially when you
use his brother for what youdid and we got nothing but
poodoo.
Yeah, I said it, Bringing itback.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Poodoo.
Jimmy did not deserve to getkrillin for for Jay to give me
Gohan energy.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
That was more so,
yamcha, bro Cause.
That's why he didn't transform.
You know what?
That's why?
Because he turns and looks atYamcha on the floor.
He says, oh damn, Alright.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
But even when Goku
turned and saw Yamcha on the
floor, he at least beat Nappa'sass.
He did.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
But he didn't beat
Nappa's ass.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
He did, but he didn't
beat his ass like he should
have.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
No, he beat his ass.
He beat his ass and he brokehis back.
He styled him.
He didn't murder him or get himlike how Goku wanted to get
freezed for killing everybodyelse.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I mean this part is
true, but I would have asked for
some at least Nappa energy.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
He didn't At least
Goku hurt that man.
Jay didn't hurt nobody.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I said this I
remember saying this that yo,
rikishi, must be kissing PaulLevesque's ass, bro.
Or maybe Hunter was like man.
I'm tired of Rikishi tweetingand saying all this stuff about
his son not being champion.
Let me just go ahead and do itand we're going to make him a
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transitional champion, becausehe better not get no long reign.
He better not get no six monthreign.
It gotta be max two months.
That's because it's twopay-per-views, max two months.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
And that's not gonna
happen either.
I don't think he's gonna holdit for six months.
I think he's gonna hold it fora little bit.
If anything right now.
He has to hold it for sixmonths.
I think he's going to hold itfor a little bit.
If anything right now, he hasto hold it so that they can.
For me, he needs to now hold it, to now make it actually
believable.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
That's what I'm
saying Two months max.
He's probably going to hold itfor two months max.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I think he's going to
have more.
He'll have a Kofi ring.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Kofi wasn't even that
damn long.
Kofi only had one defense.
It was more than two months.
Kofi only had.
Who did he defend it to?
After he lost it to Brock?
When he beat Bryan, I couldhave swore his next opponent was
Brock.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
No, he definitely had
it longer than that Hold on bro
.
I'm blanking on.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I could have sworn,
bro, hold on Kofi Title defense.
I could have sworn.
Okay, so he is not immutable.
He's lasting for 180 sworn Okay, so he is not moldable.
He's lasting for 180 days.
Okay, his WWE Championshipreign was 180 days.
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Let me see here Showing tagteam I'm not seeing the
heavyweight title.
Let me see his defenses.
Let me see defenses.
Okay, every title defense he'sever had.
(17:15):
Let's go with this.
Alright, boom, boom, bam,alright.
So apparently he.
He went against Seth Rollins.
He went against Daniel Bryan AJStyles and he went against Seth
Rollins.
He went against Daniel Bryan AJStyles.
And why am I drawing a blank?
Sami Zayn, he actually had amatch against KO.
He had one at Super Showdownwith Dolph, still caged with
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Dolph.
Why do I not remember any ofthese things?
Bro, against Joe.
He beat Joe.
No, no, no.
He went against fucking Orton.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
and he went against
Orton twice, bro, and then
brought Lesnar, because that waswhen they was bringing up the
whole back, when he called himstupid and all that.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Man, look, that was a
reign.
Apparently I wasn't here, for Iguess I wasn't existing.
I must not have been watchingthe product, because I don't
remember none of those fuckingmatches and you're not about to
tell me that was the case.
But I mean, kofi's a greatperson, kofi's a great wrestler.
I just don't for some reasonremember this reign.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I don't remember it
being that long, this many
matches.
No, that definitely did happen,unlike their match that they
had at WrestleMania.
His reign matches were goodDamn.
I also feel there's a part ofme that feels that New Day had
an unfair play for WrestleManiaI but like their match was, it
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was dry.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
That was the next
match, right.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
It was indeed.
We had two duds of a match.
Two duds, both of them fortitles Like, let me put it this
way freaking the street profitsdeserve this spot, not them.
The street profits would havethey would have stolen the show
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if they were depending on whothey were going against, though
damn, it does not matter.
They could have been going upagainst the machine guns, they
could have been going up againstDIY Kale.
If it would have been prettydeadly, that would have been
even better, because they'regood people, good wrestlers,
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good NXT tag team that came uplike how about this what we got?
And you would have thought thatthis would have been better.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
A lot of people um
went and were saying like this,
this whole card on the Saturdaywas just another Raw it
literally was another raw and inthe clash of Titans outfit that
that uh, the war Raiders werecoming out with uh Ivan and over
um, um, uh, was it?
(20:16):
Uh?
Second guy's name is uh Ivanand I don't know why I want to
say crowbar, but Eric and I Ericand I Eric and I don't know why
I want to say crowbar.
Eric and Ivar, Eric and Ivar.
There you go, Excuse me, ericand Ivar, and they're wearing
outfits from the game and I'msorry they look like he was
going to a convention.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
They did look goofy.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
They did look so
goofy and I'm like and you know,
matt was sitting here, he wastalking about man, they should
have went out with the bikergimmick and did this and that
and I was like man shoot, thatwould have been more convincing,
although I feel as if thattheir hands might have been tied
with that one for some reason.
No, I just feel like it'sbecause of the Clash of Titans
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game and being the sponsor whichalso let's talk about
WrestleMania the sponsor, youknow, I'm saying not our sponsor
, but just the sponsoring shipof mania it was literally mania
the sponsor and that's all itwas.
Every match was sponsored bysomething, had some kind of
addition to it, and I don't knowhow you feel about it, but it
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was just like after a while itkind of got annoying, like
literally every match had somekind of sponsor or connection to
something, whether it was icecream, it was fucking chips, uh,
hot and spicy something, huh,ramen, ramen, fucking a minute
made like games, which alsofatal Fury, getting the main
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piece of the mats for Mania,crazy.
I don't know how big they thinkthis game is going to be and
I'm a competitive fighter, notFatal Fury, mark of Wolves,
gaara.
I believe she's not going to beMark of Wolves, but regardless,
it's Gaara.
I'm really big in thecompetitive fighting games and I
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know this game is going to beMark Lewis, but regardless, it's
Gara.
I'm really big in thecompetitive fighting games and I
know this game is going to begreat.
I just did not expect it to bein the front or the main slot of
a mat at Mania.
That was crazy.
That was crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I mean it was
especially for the way that
they're advertising.
I actually now want to look itup and see.
How much money does it cost toget an advertisement in the ring
for WrestleMania or period?
I feel like it's going to be alot of money.
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It must not be that much moneyif it costs four thousand
dollars for a seat for one nightand that does not include food,
parking, room and board just aseat for one night of
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wrestlemania being four thousanddollars, of WrestleMania being
$4,000 to get your logo and nameplastered somewhere on their
ring.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Retarded.
So you're telling me us puttingour logo in the middle of the
ring.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Fam, I'm pretty
certain we have not made it to
such a degree.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I'm just saying if it
happened, could you imagine the
outrage You'd be like who thefuck are these?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
two dudes.
Could you Listen?
If we got enough money to getour logo put in the middle of
the ring at that point, I feelas if we're putting our money
towards the wrong stuff, becauseI know that's gonna be
expensive wishful thinking.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
We actually gotta
talk about this match.
So yeah, about this match.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
It was a match what
was there to talk about?
I mean one thing to talk about.
And people, the people who Iwas watching wrestling with
tonight, shout out to Lord Zay,his boy pointed out I think was
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it him.
It was either him or his homiethey pointed out the fact that
on New Day's outfit their giantGonzales thing that they were
doing if you notice, or if youlook, it's it is the unicorn
that was on the back.
Yeah, I did not realize that.
It's a, a Cerberus-styleunicorn.
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Okay, okay, so it's one bodyand it's got actually three
heads of a unicorn, but one ofthe heads is dead.
When you go back here, I'llgive you, I'll send you a link,
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because I wanted to look it up,but like send it to me, not in
discord.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Send it to me um uh,
elsewhere.
Oh well, then, okay, no, okay,I got it, I got it, I got it you
have to see it somewhere elsethen, because I don't have.
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, that's wow.
The giant Gonzalez aspect of itwas eh, but the picture on the
back, because I didn't catchthat, but they told they put me
up to speed about that.
I was like eh, but the pictureon the back, because I didn't
catch that, but they told theyput me up to speed about that.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I was like oh, that's
cold-blooded, that's
cold-fucking-blooded.
I couldn't, I couldn't, oh mygosh, I didn't even see that.
I didn't even see that.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
But I mean, the
overallness of that match was
the fact that New Day did youknow bad guy tactics and they
got the W.
However, though they did, itwasn't like a whole bunch of bad
guy tactics, like they kind ofthey kind of want that shit
clean to be honest, I meanpretty much yeah too, that shit
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clean to be honest, I meanpretty much.
Yeah, I had to, outside of thefact that Kofi Kingston held his
foot down so he couldn't kickout and the referee didn't see
it, but it was like, eh, but Imean it was whatever.
Those tag team pals weren'tdoing anything.
War Raiders have just kind ofsort of been skating around,
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rocking, walking around withthem.
So hopefully maybe somethingwill come of it now that New Day
has it, because New Day is, newDay and New Day is, and they
rock.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I'm playing, playing,
I'm playing, I'm playing, I'm
playing.
Unless somebody says oh my God,here we go.
Shawn Michael, his words, notmine, very heartbreak.
Kid ask okay, sorry, what arewe rating this?
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I'm rating it a, d, oh,absolutely it was.
I'm also going to make a clipof every one of our predictions
that we got right from the video.
So I'm going to make a clip onthat one.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I honestly think like
a lot.
It's weird Cause, like a lot ofmy predictions, I cause, with
my predictions that I had, therewere like the the prediction
that I would love to have happen, and then there's the
prediction that I know love tohave happen, and then there's
the prediction that I know isgonna happen, and so almost all
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of the ones that I'm like Iwould love to have happen really
didn't happen, which is kind ofokay and kind of sorry, because
I think my Wrestlemaniapredictions would have been so
much better, like this one,being Jade going up against
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Naomi.
This was the first good match ofthe night.
Which was surprising, because Iwas worried about Jade, because
she's been, you know, shehasn't been having the best
matches.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Greener than a fresh
cut lawn, greener than the money
that I don't have, but verygreen.
And you know she held her own,definitely held her own.
I did love the spot that shealmost dropped and probably I
think she might have dropped heron her head a little bit.
The electric chair switch toabout powerbomb gets to Jade at
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one, two, three.
A lot of these feuds, man, youknow there's so much.
There was such blood feuds.
They just ended it like normalmatches, like there was no blood
feud afterwards.
Okay, the Jay incident withthat match, that was a blood
feud at that point Right.
And now with Jada and Naomi,that was like a blood feud, bro,
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she tossed you into a freakingcar and you just jaded and lick
your hand.
One, two, three.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
You're not going like
I will at least give them the
fact that, like leading up to it, jade's been getting them hits
in and honestly when, when Jadethrash her and took her out of
the elimination chamber thatshould have been it.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I mean, that's the
biggest get back ever.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
That was some solid
shit but, unlike a lot of these
matches, they did actually catchup with Jade, and even Jade
kind of said it herself thatshe's like I don't think this is
over just yet.
I'm pretty certain that there'sgoing to be a bit more.
That's going to end uphappening and though I'm kind of
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like I'm cool that they didthat, I feel as if they should
have took it the next stepforward and then, like while she
was out there talking about allthat, naomi came back through
and and hit her with some ofthat yeah, fam, this ain't done
yet.
Let me beat your ass right hereand then get like pulled away
and all this other stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
But you know, it's
whatever, I guess I really would
have preferred it end withnaomi winning, and I said that
because I feel like that wouldhave been better for the story.
But we'll see where it goes.
Maybe there might be the rubbermatch at Backlash.
Either way, this match wasdefinitely a B, definitely a B.
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There were moments where itcould have been a C, but you
know, naomi definitely saved thematch with her.
You know in-ring background andit's crazy, crazy too.
I've always been a fan of naomias a person.
I've met her before too.
Um, her wrestling styles feelslike it's not diva, but it is
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definitely.
It's definitely somethingreally good.
It's definitely somethingreally good and I feel like that
meshes well with jade, who'ssupposed to be miss powerhouse
and everything.
So, uh, match as well.
I.
I want to give it a b.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I want to give a
solid b listen, naomi is a she
is a solid in ring individual.
She's one of those ones that,like you, could put her in a
ring with anybody and the matchalmost has no choice but to be
good and on in this particularmatch kind of showed that.
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Now I will give uh jade herprops, because you know, she's
kind of sort of been uh, she'sbeen she's, she's been in the
incubator a little bit and so,like she then and it was obvious
to see why, and I feel slowlyshade is kind of sort of coming
(32:10):
into her own and figuring outwhat this character that she is
right now she's like.
She's like the character thatshe's kind of portraying is like
she's like this, you know thisshe she's playing like the stoic
superhero character type thingand so that's kind of her spot.
But compared to what I know shecould be because we all saw
(32:36):
what she was doing in AEW I feellike she's trying really hard
to get this particular characterthat she's doing over and it's
tough because I feel like itmight not truly be her are we
talking about Jade correct?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
yes okay, naomi.
Yeah, I was TNA.
I thought we were talking aboutNaomi.
But yeah, continue Naomi she.
Yeah, I was TNA.
That was all school.
When we said ADL, I was likewait, I thought we were talking
about Naomi, but yeah, continue.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Naomi, she's fine,
she got this in the bag.
She knows what she's doing.
Listen, she's a great heel.
Alright, I've never.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I've never expected
her.
No, I mean I've seen her as aheel.
It's just her heel was verylike you know oh, I'm a bad
bitch but like this, like thishas layers to it, like her
character feels like it's goingto have layers that we're going
to just keep unraveling or just,like you know, exploring more
(33:40):
down the road.
So I thought the win would havebeen helpful so that way she
could start developing hercharacter more and be like I got
Jade, now I gotta get Bianca.
You know what I'm saying, butBianca's in a program right now
that doesn't look like it'sgonna stop.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I feel I mean I can
understand on that one, but like
I also know, naomi, uh, becauseof the fact of like the type of
heel that she's cooking andbecoming and whatnot, she don't
need the win.
She's going cause she'll, she'llget hers once again real soon
when it comes to all of thisCause it's it's far from over.
(34:19):
But overall though, like Jade,she did her thing and I and I'm
happy about how that match went,and it was also the first
really good match of that nightand then we go into the next
good match of the night.
But of course this match hadthey would have had to try to
(34:42):
make this match garbage.
La Knight, Jacob Fatu, fam Famand I love me some LA Knight,
like I love me some LA Knight.
But I've also grown veryattached to Jacob Fatu.
(35:02):
Jacob Fatu got people out hereusing and quoting the term dog
walked more and more than Iwould have ever expected.
I've been using the phrase dogwalk ever since the Brawley
movie.
Alright, because that is whatdog walking somebody is.
(35:26):
That's definition term andJacob Fatu out here grabbing the
leash and putting it on peopleand taking them for a stroll
right now, now as our new UnitedStates champion.
It was a solid match.
I could not.
United States champion.
It was a solid match.
I could not.
(35:46):
The only thing I do kind ofwish we would have got but at
the same time I'm still okaywith it was I wanted to see a
bit like figure out thebloodline interference, because
there was a little bit of astory of you know Jacob and
what's left of the old bloodlineor the new bloodline.
(36:07):
You know they were kind ofbutting heads a little bit, they
weren't seeing eye to eye kindof thing.
But then last SmackDown theyhad a tag match and that they
kind of you know he actuallysaid I love you, so love you On
SmackDown.
So I was like, oh, I guessthey've made up now.
(36:27):
And then Solo came out therewith him but he wasn't there.
At the ringside Jacob Fatu beatthis man squeaky.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
The beautiful thing
about it is, yes, it was squeaky
, but I wanted it to be a squash.
I wanted it to be a squashbecause of just how Jacob fought
too.
He's been going against BraunStrowman those should have been
heavier matches, obviously theywere, but to go against LA
Knight, this should be acakewalk.
(37:01):
He should be dog walking thismotherfucker.
To me, to me, to me, to me,that's just, this is me, this is
me.
More so, fantasy booking, likeobviously it's a mania match.
You gotta let it build, but tome, I want Jacob to to be just
as you like, to identify as amonster.
(37:21):
I want that motherfucker to belike damn near Goldberg and just
knocking bitches out in like afew minutes.
First off.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Put some respect on
my boy, la knights he is the
mega star.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yes, he did it.
He did it.
He caught an amazing BFT off ofMoonsault Perfection.
I gotta give him credit.
What I'm saying is I want JacobFatu, now that he has this belt
.
Obviously, we couldn't expectthis in a match, but I want
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squash matches.
I just want him to bedominating anybody that comes up
to him with that belt.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
I mean well, because
if I remember hearing correctly
in the chat there's apparentlygoing to he's.
I think he's doing an openchallenge thing for the US title
right now.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
That's what I love to
hear.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I love to hear it.
I'm almost positive.
That's what I heard in thegroup chat.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
It's honestly the way
to go for his character to be
like Yo, anybody want some, comeget some.
Get out of there.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yes, so apparently
there's.
I guess apparently there is aUS Open Challenge callback
that's supposed to be happening.
I could be wrong.
I don't know, damn, why is myphone acting crazy.
I might have to look into that.
But like, even then, like justthe match in itself was great.
(39:02):
I can understand where you'recoming from with wanting to see
him squash people and all thisother stuff, but maybe now that
he's got the title, with the waythat LA Knight is presented and
what he's been doing, like hecouldn't squash la night, that
(39:26):
that would have.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
That would have
killed la nights, karen I mean
okay, yeah, yeah, I'm justsaying that was me more so
fantasy booking the situationlike obviously, uh, it wouldn't
happen.
Like you still have some greatmoments the bft off the double,
well off the moonsault.
And then here's another thing.
I know you probably hate inwrestling too, when people do
(39:49):
their moves two times just toget the pin.
No, not necessarily.
I could have sworn you like itdoesn't bother me, it depends.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
It depends on the
situation, and especially if
you're someone who is like onlyit, has you got that.
You just got one move, becausewhen it comes to finishers,
there's there's layers to thisand whatnot, so it's like it's
it's, it's all in how it's done.
(40:19):
You know, I'm saying like Idon't have a problem with false
finishes, but it's how you usethem and how you do them.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Okay, that's valid,
that's valid.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
With the way that
everything happened here, like
it made sense, and also becauseof the fact that Jacob Fatu is
Jacob Fatu, it also still madesense in it.
On itself, batuu, it also stillmade sense in and of itself, and
I do like the fact that afterhe won, he went back in there
(40:51):
and beat the hell out of LA, ashe should have, which I feel,
though he did not, you know, getthe squash match you were
looking for.
I think that kind of sort ofputs puts the good, puts a good
check mark on his, uh, monstermentality, if I may say.
(41:16):
Like he is, he's doing themonster thing well, and he is,
even though, like you know, hefought la night, and la night he
didn't job out to him, but lanight was fighting, and with the
way that he was fighting youcould tell la night was fighting
(41:39):
with everything that he had,and j Fatu still beat him and
then still had the wherewithaland the energy to continue to
moonsault him so, best part,best part, I will say this match
(41:59):
was definitely a solid A it was.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
It was when we knew
Wrestlemania was starting
correct not saying that jaycargill and naomi wasn't doing
that, it was a good match.
But when I when I say that andthat's no disrespect to any of
the wrestlers beforehand but uh,this match was what brought the
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live, like it made you wake upand be like, okay, that was a
spectacle, right, and it gavemore of a lively feel to Mania,
whereas the other matches kindof felt like stuff you would see
on Raw normally.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
So I think the
important thing that this match
did as well as I would still sayfor the Jade Cargill match is
the fact that all of the stuffthat's been happening since
Elimination Chamber in regardsto those two matches once we
finally got to WrestleMania theymade all of that matter, and
(43:07):
remember that, because when weget to night two there's a lot
of that that doesn't happen.
But I can agree with givingthat match a solid A.
It was great, it was real good.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Definitely a solid A.
It was great, it was real good.
Definitely a solid egg Fromthat match.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I believe we go right
into your favorite, which was
the Big American?
Oh yeah, versus King Fire.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Rey Phoenix
Absolutely.
This match fortunately had tobe updated versus King Firebird.
Ray Phoenix man Absolutely.
This match fortunately had tobe updated because Ray Mysterio
was unable to still compete.
He got injured that SmackDowngoing against Julius Creed,
julius Creed, which was a greatmatch there.
I just want to know what spotcaused the injury.
(44:10):
I'm definitely curious it kindof seemed fairly safe.
You know, like a very safematch, and to know he got
injured was crazy, uh.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
But some people are
saying that because of the whole
uh merger that they did oh, youmean w buying triple a?
Yeah, yeah, like some peopleare saying that Ray Mysterio
pulled a fast one, was all likehey, I'm gonna step down, I'm
gonna let Ray Phoenix take this,I'm gonna let him take my
WrestleMania match.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
You know what and I
kind of can respect that.
But also here's another thingTony Khan, you fucking fumbled
so hard, bro.
How do you let these guys leaveyour promotion and like,
literally one in like two months, gets a mania match, another
one in two weeks?
And no offense to penta,because penta is my guy, but ray
(45:03):
phoenix is the more excitingone to watch, like penta.
Penta is his characterdevelopment, his, his psychology
in the ring is great.
But if you want lucha, like youwant the craziness and the
amazingness of lucha, you watchphoenix.
(45:25):
Okay, and boy did they deliver.
Uh, I was about to call him hisother name, the big American.
You know he's doing a great jobin this match.
Technical work obviously getsto a point where he uses his
metal plate, but constantlyusing it.
(45:45):
At this point and I'm not evengoing to lie, I thought this
match he was going to get masked, I thought he was going to get
unmasked and we found out withChad Gable and the story is over
but apparently puts the metalplate on, gets the headbutts and
gets the 1-2-3 from the Gulf ofAmerica.
Oh, actually they got rid ofthat.
They're not even talking aboutthe Gulf of America, more he's
(46:06):
from the Gulf of Mexico.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Now they did bring it
up again, though they did.
They're trying to like which ishilarious, that they're trying
to like cover up the fact thatthey said that shit.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
They didn't want to
do any political stuff.
And now with the merger, yeah,they're fixing that shit
immediately, bro.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
However, the match
was fun.
It was fun, I will admit.
I feel as if it could have, Ifeel like it could have been
more, but it was fun for whatthey gave me.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
I'm still saying it's
a solid B.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
I'm going to have to
give it a C.
I feel really, yeah, I feelthat they didn't let Rey Phoenix
enough, if that makes sense.
You know what I'm saying.
Like I don't think he, I don'tthink he got, as they would say,
(47:09):
I don't think he got his shitin in this match.
I I don't think he really gothis shit in, I guess.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
I guess, cause, yeah,
whenever he hit the gringo kick
, it was pretty much all shewrote, cause apparently he
kicked the metal plate in hishead.
So I guess.
So I truly feel like this was agreat showing of who ray
phoenix is and what he could do,because he was doing some crazy
spots on mania man like that.
(47:40):
Like I said, it's a joy towatch him.
It's a real joy to watch himand what he can do, and you saw
that tonight.
But, like you said, you give,you give it a C, I give it a B.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
And I feel as if and
I think it's mostly, I think it
might have a lot to do with thefact like with him, like I feel
as if he should have went overor if they, if he wasn't going
to go over like he did, I feelas if he could have got a bit
more.
But like I mean over, I'll behonest with you.
Going into this, I was like,well, I don't got them.
(48:16):
Grande Americano balls, I ain'they.
But I mean Rafe Phoenix didmake me care about this match a
little bit more.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
It's fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
I do think about this
match a little bit more.
I will say I think this matchBecause it's fun to watch.
I do think that this match wasa better choice of a match than
Chad and Rey Mysterio.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
I will agree,
definitely agree, definitely
agree with it.
It's a way better match.
And you know, with that match,better match.
And you know, with that match,um, we do.
We finally go into the the.
What was the second?
What was the match after thatone?
Um, women's championship match.
(49:02):
Okay, they okay.
There you go, tiffany, okay,yeah, you go.
Tiffany stratton versusCharlotte Flair.
I got to apologize to the guys.
It was a specific dateyesterday where you got the
chance to get lifted with yourfriends.
We still somewhat lifted Now.
So, yes, tiffany Strattonversus Charlotte Flair.
(49:25):
Tiffany Stratton came out as aBarbie, apparently, in our post
interview after winning thematch, she said she wanted to do
that in NXT and I said, nah,probably not right now.
And then Triple H comes up andsays, hey, you want to do it.
And she's like fuck, yeah,we'll do that shit, hell, yeah.
So she comes out as a Barbie.
Charlotte Flair comes out therewith the most absolute fire
(49:52):
robe.
The robe was fire.
She damn near looked like aqueen should.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Listen, hey, hey, hey
.
Screw those ass clowns outthere.
Who was talking about how shewas looking like some goddamn
Pepto-Bismol Fucking haters, bro, Back off my queen dog, Back
off my queen dog, Back off myqueen.
She lost, but like.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
I will say this is a
well-paced match.
Well-paced, you know, there wassome decent storytelling, with
the knee and both of their kneesbeing, you know, pretty much
the focal point of likesubmission and like what areas
to attack.
I'm not gonna lie, when it cameto the finish, when she finally
hit the previous movesaw ever,I didn't think that was it.
(50:44):
I kind of felt like it wasgonna get a little bit more and
even though that match was kindof dragging, I just didn't
finish.
Like you know how the crowdwill let you know this is the
finish.
Right, we kind of know thecrowd didn't do that I agree on
that particular bit.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
I actually find it
interesting that you did say it
was well paced.
I personally didn't have aproblem with the pace of myself,
but a lot of people did a lotof people.
Now, one thing I will admit thatI could see that in the, in the
cut, like from the in thebeginning and then and going
into like the middle of thematch, that it felt like the
(51:23):
chemistry was off a little bitlike they were trying to.
They were, you know, trying tofigure each other out like how
they actually want to do thistype situation.
But I feel like they pull ittogether at the end a lot of
people, don't?
Speaker 1 (51:40):
it led to Tiffy
getting her teeth chipped oh
yeah.
Tiffany got beat the hell up.
Apparently she got her teethchipped, so that's one thing.
So hopefully she can get thatfixed.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
She got teeth chipped
, got the freaking knot on her
head.
It was a rough match, but Iliked it.
I thought it was good.
They was hitting each otherhard.
They made me believe that theywanted to beat the hell out of
each other, and they actuallydid very much.
It was like I said it was adecent match.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
I'm giving it a B.
They wanted to beat the hellout of each other and they
actually did Very much.
It was like I said it was adecent match.
I'm giving it a B.
I'm giving it a B.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Um, I think, hmm, I'm
barely giving it a B, I'm
barely giving it a b, I'm barelygiving you giving it b mice
like it would be a b, like Idon't want to say c, but like
I'm barely giving it a b andthat's only just because of the
(52:43):
fact, like I know they couldhave done better.
You know what I'm saying.
Like because I've seentiffany's matches.
She has fire matches, excuse me, she has fire matches.
And granted, I know a lot ofpeople just like to hate on
charlotte flair because she'scharlotte flair and so sometimes
they just be having them thoseinstead of rose-colored glasses.
(53:05):
They got the the, theblood-seeking glasses where they
just look at charlotte flairand it's just like everything
she does is horrible and it'swrong and it's bad and fuck
Charlotte, and we hate her and Imean she can't keep her husband
and so I was like, but I feelsometimes people just let that,
let that hate cloud the factthat she is legitimately that
(53:31):
good in the ring and so but buthey, maybe I'm just a big
charlotte mark who you knowslobs on everything that she
walks on.
So who knows?
You know what I'm saying.
But regardless of how that goes, fuck you.
First be here talking aboutsome, don't be mad, because my
(53:53):
female of choice is better thanyours, okay, tiffany Stratton.
Period, just period.
We all know that she let herget this dub.
Stratton would've won that, butshe didn't.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
Tonight she'll win
later she couldn't even hold
herself up in the promo.
Well, I think she would likehandling my title right now.
Anyway, that match was a B.
Great job to both Charlotte andTiffany, keeping it
professional, even though addingsome spice to this match
(54:31):
because, again, before thatmatch, you know, there wasn't
that much hype for it.
They were able to make it spicy, make it washable, make it
enjoyable.
It gets a B from me.
It gets a low B from SwagSwitcher and I think from there,
because Mania felt like it wasgoing by really fast.
So I don't think this was themain event next, was it?
Speaker 2 (54:56):
On contrary, because
funny that you say that because
when we were watching it we wereall like, man there's, this is
going by really quickly.
I mean I guess there must beone more match next.
Yes, there is only one morematch, and that was the Triple
Threat match with Paul Heymanand CM Punk and Roman Reigns and
(55:22):
Seth Monkey Lovin' Rollins.
So what I will say?
They did a great job of meactually caring about this match
, because going into this match,story-wise it was stupid, kind
(55:46):
of Like it was cool and then itwas all like, oh, that's it okay
, and then some weird stuffhappened and then it was like
what, what does that have to dowith anything?
What do you mean?
You have, paul heyman owes youa favor, seth, like I don't.
Why, what, what and when hasPaul Heyman ever interacted with
(56:12):
you for him to owe you anything?
When?
Just be what the favor is.
Hey, since I didn't curve stompyou tonight, you're going to do
me this solid at thepay-per-view.
Speaker 1 (56:27):
Like huh, right now
it's looking like that.
It's looking like that, it'slooking like that, you know, and
and the match, the match wascrazy and in the good way, by
the way, it was good way, goodback and forth.
One of the spots I did love waswhen everybody did their
signature on each other.
So like um rome, I think, uh,either roman got gts or like
(56:52):
punk try to GTS and he gotspeared and from the spear led
to Seth getting um the curvestop and he passed out.
I can't remember if it was likemaybe he hit Seth with it and
Seth like flew off and thenRoman hit him and then from that
he hit him with the the curvestop.
So that was a really coolsegment.
(57:12):
I don't really say that wasreally cool spot, a real cool
spot in that match.
And we get to a point where paulhayman has to choose between cm
punk and roman reigns.
He grabs a steel chair.
Roman sees it, punk sees it, hepasses the chair to punk and
(57:33):
through the disbelief of Roman'sface, he just can't believe it.
He actually low-key starts, youcan see he like starts to cry
like a little bit, like no, likeit's actually happening.
And then it actually happens.
Paul Heyman low blows CM Punkand, through the amazement of
(57:53):
the crowd, it was like, okay,we're going back to good old
times and you see Roman again.
So that same sympathy and samedoubt in his face kind of shift
into pure joy.
This man looked like the weightof the world was off his
shoulder.
Cody rose, what you saiddoesn't matter, I still have my
(58:17):
wise man.
And then playing his day, sethrollins is standing at the other
side of the ring and paulheyman saying hey, this is your
moment to get back at him.
For the shield chair shot he'sbeen doing to you almost two
times Now, technically three, itwas three, it was three.
(58:37):
And as Roman is soaking intothe moment, you could tell
immediately something was aboutto happen.
There's no reason for Paul tobe right next to a man who's
about to swing a chair in hisdirection outside of just
hitting him in the balls.
So guess what he did?
(58:57):
He hits him in the balls andfor some reason does this wiggle
, as if he was just adding onextra spice to the hit to the
balls.
Speaker 2 (59:08):
That wiggle was
because when he hit him in the
nuts his arm actually got stuck,so he had to literally wiggle
his arm free.
Because I was wondering likewhy, why was all that extra?
Speaker 1 (59:19):
oh, he, legitimately,
was caught between this man's
legs I'm gonna say is is themightiness of roman of Roman's
thighs, apparently.
That's crazy.
So Paul Heyman hits him withthe low blow and Seth Rollins in
the most architect way ever,which to me.
(59:41):
Now I'm seeing Seth Rollins isreally Triple H's and HBK's son.
He's a workhorse like HBK andhis shocking moments are very
much Triple H-esque.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I would rather say he
is the son of Shawn Michaels,
but he was taught by Triple H.
Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Like Triple H, has
taught him very, very well that,
indeed, to the point where,right now, like I want to talk
to the people who are out heresaying that they knew Paul
Heyman was going to join up withSeth Rollins I did a slight
(01:00:44):
joke about it, like, outside ofit being just a wild fucking
hair up your ass hunch, thatthat was gonna happen, there's
no evidence of reason why thatshould have been on anybody's
mind outside of the fact that,like Paul Heyman looked like he
(01:01:06):
might do something real weird,real stupid, and then he did it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
But it's like outside
of that moment then, any time
prior, why, why, why, apparentlyfitting, it was fitting, and I
want to get your opinions on theheel turn.
And where do you think it'sgoing to go from there?
(01:01:34):
Where do you think it's goingto go next With Seth Rollins,
Seth Rollins and Paul Hamer?
Yep, what do you think is thenext chapter of this story?
Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Well, maybe, just
maybe, this might be Seth
Rollins' chance to be a bad guyand stop dressing like a fucking
idiot, because, it's no secret,he has no sense of style, do
you?
Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
forget.
Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
He doesn't like
wearing the shit that he does,
do you forget?
So maybe he'll go back to justyou know.
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
good old Sethy boy do
you forget that Becky Lynch is
the man now and Seth Rollins isvery much?
Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
but Becky Lynch ain't
telling him to do that.
Nah, I'm gonna take.
Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
I'm gonna take it
straight from CM Punk.
He says you do.
He says you wear the pants inthe relationship, but you do
wear her panties, don't you?
I?
Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
have.
Absolutely I have nopredictions on what happens next
with this match.
To be honest, with the originalpredictions that I made, I had
no predictions for what wasgoing to happen on the aftermath
of this match.
Like if CM Punk would have won,like in my mind, it's just like
(01:03:09):
alright, I guess we just go onto the next segment.
If Roman Reigns would have won,like in my mind, it's just like
all right, I guess we just goon to the next segment.
If roman reigns would have won,then I was just like all right,
I guess we just go on to thenext segment.
If seth rollins would have wonfirst off, it didn't make sense
for seth rollins to win at thetime.
(01:03:29):
So I was like, if Seth Rollinswould win, I absolutely have no
idea what would happen next.
But I wasn't thinking about itbecause I I guess, foolishly
knew that wasn't going to happen.
Now here we are, a whole bunchof I don't know what the heck is
(01:03:50):
going to happen.
Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
It's nice and that
was night one.
It ended with Paul Heyman andSeth Rollins leaving the ring.
Roman, distraught, not knowingwhat he needs to do next, not
knowing what he's going to donext, walks off the ring, rocks
out the ring, walks up the redis if somebody just told him I
(01:04:12):
don't like you, you got cooties.
And he just is sad he can'tpick up the girl of his dreams.
And then CM Punk.
Cm Punk looked like he went tohis favorite restaurant for his
favorite treat and he saw theyjust ran out and they're not
making any more.
And he was just distraught aswell.
Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Yeah, they both, yeah
, they both got dumb.
Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
I will have to say
this it's very close to an S
rank, only because the heel turnthrew me off the heel turn.
It's kind of making it an s,but it's definitely a, it's
definitely an a, but I'm justlike a part of me wants to say
(01:04:58):
it's an s because you know, it'sgood moments, it was good
chemistry in the ring from allthree of them the, the spot with
roman and seth about to do the,the shield power bomb, and he
says, no, I'm going to smack outof face and do it.
There was some really greatspots, really great spots.
So I, lowkey, want to give itan S, but I kind of want to give
(01:05:19):
it an A.
Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
I'm definitely going
to give it an A in that
particular department and it'sbecause of the fact that, like,
especially compared to thematches that were had, like
there was there was story beingtold, there was, there was
things happening in the matchthat kept me hooked in and
whatnot, I will say they couldhave calmed the fuck down with
(01:05:43):
the false finishes a little bit.
No, they were boy they.
It's almost like one of thosethings that like, oh well, I
mean shit, since AEW is doing it, I guess we might as well do it
too.
You know, on some blue skidootype shit.
So I'm just like all right guys, not you saying blue skidoo?
(01:06:06):
Listen.
Wwe looked at them and said wecan too.
And they false finisheseverywhere.
Technical difficulties overthere, bro.
Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Just readjusting my
chair, that's it.
Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Oh, readjusting my
chair.
It's a solid A.
It was.
It's a solid a.
It is like cause it for atfirst I felt like it was
probably going to be, uh, like a, a, b minus, but, like they, it
was a match I didn't care aboutand they made me care about it.
Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
And that's all I can
ask for, I guess.
Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
As a wrestling fan,
as where the first match was a
match I cared about and theymade me really feel upset about
caring about it Going into nighttwo, aka the real fucking
WrestleMania as far as I'mconcerned.
(01:07:12):
I will agree like this, likenight 2 actually felt like
Wrestlemania freaking like thefirst going off rip with the
first match, io Sky, biancaBelair and Rhea Ripley.
My only gripe, my only gripe,my only gripe with that match.
(01:07:35):
I don't think Bianca shouldhave took that pin.
I don't.
Rhea Ripley should have gotpinned tonight.
Rhea Ripley should have gotpinned tonight because because
fuck her right now.
She fam.
You already know where I'mcoming with this.
(01:07:57):
She had no business, oh my god,this nigga.
Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Oh my god, here we go
bro.
Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
No business.
She had no business.
This was not her match to be in.
Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Well, how about this?
Because she had no business,bianca took the pin.
So if it was Bianca versus Io,bianca would have took the pin
anyway.
So technically, technically,you got what you wanted.
Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
No, because, when you
look at how it all happened,
bianca was about to win bypinning Rhea Ripley, but because
she was distracted by this.
Why, why, when, when?
Crybaby Rhea Ripley, I want toget in this match, even though I
(01:08:44):
got no business being itBecause of all that.
Yes, she got pinned, but RheaRipley was the one who took all
the hits and got beat, butBianca just got unlucky because,
distracted by crybaby, rheaRipley, miss had no business
(01:09:11):
being in this match because shelost twice.
Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Twice Look, he made
it official.
Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Horrible parenting.
You know why I say horribleparenting on his part?
Because there's no reason whywe should be rewarding bad
behavior.
Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
As for someone who
doesn't have kids, I'm going to
let you take that and you havethe full examples and knowledge
of that.
So I just feel like this matchwas great.
Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Oh, the match was
great, it was fucking slapper.
Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
There was nothing
wrong with this match Like
spectacle wise.
Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Yeah no, this match
was really good.
This match was really great.
Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
This match was really
great.
This match was really great.
Honestly, I think the best partwas the combination of I think
it was a look it was about to bea double powerbomb, but it was
kind of like a face busterbecause Io backflipped or
something like that.
It was a really interesting toprow spot.
It wasn't your typical, whichyou would see in most matches,
(01:10:33):
where they do the oh, I'm apowerbomb, you suplex thing like
it's so so done, it's sooverrated.
I'm so sometimes I'm so tiredof seeing it, especially when
it's like two people on thebuckle and then two people.
It's like bro, it's too much,stop.
So this match I'm definitelygiving an a, definitely give it
(01:10:53):
a oh yeah, I definitely givethis match an a like.
Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
If anything, out of
all of the matches, this match
is the closest one.
This match was the closest toan S I could possibly have done,
but I'm not going to give it anS.
It's still going to be an A.
Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
A to an L.
Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Which was missing in
my WrestleMania.
I don't understand.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding, I'm fuckingmotherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
So next after that
was that the Damien Priest yes,
damien Priest and Drew McIntyrethat was oh, go ahead well I
would say it was solid.
Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
You know, like I feel
, unlike the previous night,
this one was a match that it'sbuild up met the outcome.
I do think they could havegotten a bit more street
fighting with this match.
I feel like they kind of theywas like street fight light, but
(01:12:11):
you know.
Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Completely valid.
Completely valid, I mean, wedid get that table spot, we did
get the Claymore with the kickHis head on the opposite side of
a chair and he does theClaymore which is kicking his
head into the chair.
I knew Drew needed this and Ithink I think some people said
(01:12:39):
Damian needed this.
But no, drew needed this.
He's been losing.
He lost two manias now and thenhe just hasn't been getting a
break.
He was almost in Penn Bowler.
He's not in Penn Bowler, he'snot in Penn Bowler territory.
But he was starting to get PennBowler treatment where he's
like, oh cool, he's all talk,he's all talk, but he's losing
(01:13:02):
the big ones.
But unlike Finn Bowler correctPenn, and we're going to get
into why it's Penn soon.
Finn Balor, correct pin, andwe're going to get into why it's
pin soon.
Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Unlike Finn, where
Drew McIntyre has his matches
whether, when it comes to how heloses Drew McIntyre, he loses
with grace in a bit of triumph,like he will lose, but like you
(01:13:43):
had to fight for him to lose.
You know what I'm saying.
Like him versus what was it?
What was the last?
What was the last, like crazy,the last, his last little match
that he had, like um, where helost.
That was the big you're talkingabout damien.
Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
I'm not damien um.
Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
You're talking about
drew right um, because, well, it
was the elimination chamber ifyou think about the punk matches
.
But going to the punk matchright when he lost, but it was
(01:14:21):
like one of those, like he lost,but the person who won, they
won at what cost?
You know what I'm saying.
So it's he's.
He's been losing in a way whereit's like it has not stomped
his shine out, unlike Finn.
(01:14:42):
He's been losing in a way wherehis credibility has been
destroyed A little bit In thatparticular department.
But, like as far as this went,though, like I will say, I am
surprised that they didn't letdamien get this win, and even
(01:15:08):
more so I'm a little surprisedat how much they let Drew
McIntyre beat Damien's ass likeit was.
It was decently back and forth,but to me it felt like that
Drew was taking it to Damien.
But overall, it was a good one.
(01:15:32):
I give it a solid B.
Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
I'll give it a B too,
because I like the spots,
especially the double table spot, and you know they were
actually using decent weapons.
I felt like it was a great.
Honestly, that would have beena no.
No, the EO match was a great.
Honestly, that would have beena no.
The EO match was a good opener.
Okay, I think that was a goodsecond.
(01:15:58):
It was a good second.
Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
I take that back, I
think it was in the right spot
because the match that happensnext the match that happens next
.
Intercontinental titleBronathan Penta, finn and your
(01:16:22):
boy, dominic Mysterio.
Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
I knew it,
motherfucker.
I said that shit that Dominicwas gonna win that damn belt,
cause it's gonna be good for thestory.
It's gonna be good for thestory Listen.
Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Ever since Lord Zay
was on this podcast and he just
randomly said I feel thatdominic mysterio is going to
have something to do with thisintercontinental title match and
he's leaving out of there withthe belt.
Ever since he said that two anda half weeks prior to him, even
(01:17:07):
actually seeming like he wasgoing to have anything to do
with this match.
When he finally became, I sawthat.
Oh wow, lord Zay used FutureSight and it was super effective
.
I'm going to stick with it.
Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
Here's the spectacle,
because this is such a bright
future for Dominic.
Here's the spectacle.
We got here manic mysteriomonday night, we gonna.
We gonna watch freaking cinemaas finn buckles down in the, the
judgment day starts to breakand dominic mysterio, he's
finally gonna shine.
(01:17:48):
He's gonna shine so much thatyou're gonna have to wear shades
, like me, just to see whatgreatness comes up next.
But when it comes to the match,what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
For a four way match
and especially with all the
elements that was included intothe match, I think it was good.
It was solid.
Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
It was solid.
Okay, Solid match.
I will definitely say the solid.
Oh sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Oh no, I was just
saying the fact there really
wasn't anything yay or nay aboutthe match, it was just solid.
Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
It was well done.
Okay, I, I was gonna saybecause there was a point where,
um, just the energy from thematch was good.
Everybody seems to have adifferent mindset on how to
approach it, but it will allbeneficial in their own ways.
I truly love the part where,you know, Dominic comes up, frog
(01:18:58):
splash, gets to win and againhe even pins pin Balor.
And you know, somebody in ourchat said Penn Balor strikes
again.
And yeah, unfortunately he wasthe one that took the pin.
(01:19:22):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
I kind of knew that
was going to happen, Because I
was like if Dominic Mysterio isgoing to win, it only makes
sense that he's going to pinFinn.
Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
It only makes sense
Because I feel like, with this
match, it's really going to beall about what happens on Raw
Monday.
That's where it goes from.
Here is what happens on RawMonday, and that's what I'm
(01:19:57):
looking forward to more thananything.
What is going to happen on Raw.
Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Oh, and you already
know, Raw is about to be stupid.
Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
Raw is about to be
better than Mania with night one
.
Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Honestly.
Well, that's not going to behard.
That's not hard, unfortunately.
Yes, I mean it might be alittle tough to live up to their
main event, but like, I can'treally say too much for Bron
(01:20:30):
Breaker.
Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
I mean congrats,
thank you so much for the title
reign, creating really greatmoments, like the spear on
Carlito.
Good stuff, good stuff.
And when it comes to that spear, let's kind of spear right into
that next match.
What's that next match?
We got there.
Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
So that next match
Randy Orton.
Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
God damn it.
Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Say his name and he
appears.
Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
No, when I tell y'all
, randy Orton vs Joe Henry Was
not on my WWE bingo slot for2020.
You know 2025.
This motherfucker is stillsinging the damn song, doing the
(01:21:32):
hand claps god damn it, anywayI would prefer him singing.
If I'm here singing anyway, andfrom side to side to me Anyway,
I would prefer him singing itfrom here.
But this match would havetechnically been your P-Break
match, because it wasn'tanything crazy about it, but it
(01:21:53):
was still good to see.
Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
Obviously, this one
was definitely for the spectacle
of it all.
It was the fact that we saw andwitnessed a whole TNA champion,
belt and all in ourWrestlemania and then, of all
people to get such aWrestlemania moment.
(01:22:17):
Joe Henry, I don't think wecould have picked a better
person to get such aWrestleMania moment.
Joe Henry, mm-hmm, I don'tthink we could have picked a
better person.
Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
You are.
You were not wrong.
You were not wrong.
I just know that the wholepoint of this match, once we got
, we were giving it, it was hey,we want to just do the hard cam
thing on Joe Henry and you justcome out of nowhere and RKO him
.
And then that was to me likethat.
(01:22:47):
There's even memes on italready.
I haven't said it to you, butthere's a meme of it already.
Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
It's just Joe Henry
and then the I was hitting it
with the RKO and with that, jojo, continue, basically.
Which that would be?
Basically it was.
I mean it was, it was fun.
I almost don't even want torate it like it wasn't, like it
(01:23:15):
was just, I'm not gonna lie.
Here's a little TNA in yourWrestlemania.
Boy, like now.
I want a little bit of now.
I want a little bit of WWE.
Am I bound for glory?
Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
that's what I need as
that one guy to be slow down
there, buckaroo.
Wow, slow down there, buckaroo.
Uh, one, one step at a time.
That was that was already amajor thing.
But kudos, joe, henry, forgetting a wrestlemania moment
(01:23:50):
and a hunter even saying bro,this is your first wrestlemania
moment, you're gonna have manyother ones.
So so henry already gets acosign from hunter, from paul
avec very interesting singerfangirl as well I say they're
triple h.
Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
You know what I'm
saying.
Like you know, he still worksfor tna, right?
You can't just what, you what?
Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
you're trying to do,
brother, uh, say his name and he
appears.
Ain't that the fucking phrase?
You'd be like yo.
Who's they probably sitting inthe office?
I mean, who's Randy Orton goingto opponent, going to be stupid
?
If it's Joe Henry, say his name.
Oh, what the fuck?
So come here.
He's like we weren't evenserious.
(01:24:32):
Look, I'm here now.
So that's how it feels.
That's how it feels.
Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
Listen, I was 100%
for it.
I love me, jim Joe Henry.
Granted, if a certain someonewould have kept it, could you
imagine if my boy bruh if hewould have came up was still the
champion and he was the onethat showed up.
Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
Would he have came
out as TNA music, or you think
he would've came out as DolphZiggler?
Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
He would have to come
out to his TNA music, because
that's where he's at now.
The same reason why, whenBiggie James was there, she came
out to her TNA music.
True, but Hardcore country.
Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
That's always a crazy
statement, knowing the history,
but it would have been great,now I'm'm gonna be real.
Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
okay, this next match
, though, I did not have any
expectations for it.
I don't think it lived up toany of them, if I even made them
Logan Paul and AJ Styles yepthis match was.
(01:26:11):
It wasn't bad, of course LoganPaul won, but like, like it's
one of those.
This is like the match that Iknew I wouldn't have had much to
really say about.
Like, cause it was really justthere.
It was like hey, you want a bigmoney match there, champ?
(01:26:32):
Now, what I was interested in,and I'm now interested to see
where it's going to go, iscarrying crosses involvement.
Karrion Kross is the onlyreason that this match even
mattered for me, because what hewas doing prior with this
trying to bring out the bad AJStyles and stuff like that, you
(01:26:54):
know, trying to make him go darkand stuff like that, you know,
trying to make him to go darkand then he shows up with the
you know and does the thingoutside the ring when trying to
convince him to take the use,the brass knuckles.
Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
And AJ Styles is like
I'm not doing it just for him
to lose and it's all like youknow, it's kind of funny how
this ending is going to be verysimilar somewhat to the main
event.
But is that just me?
That is me.
Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
A little bit.
I hear you I hear you, yeah,but like Logan Paul takes W, I
mean, at the end of the day theylooked great.
It was a solid match.
Like I barely.
(01:27:50):
I almost don't want to give ita B, but I can't find a reason
to say I'd want to give it a C.
So what would you want to giveit a C?
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
So what would you
rank it?
Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
They did just enough.
They did just enough for me toallow them to have a B and I
think what helps solidifies thatis the fact that there's
something to go, as the factthat there's something to go,
there is still something that isgoing to come of this
(01:28:23):
continuing on.
Because Karrion Kross'involvement, because now I know
that, okay, this wasn't just aalright.
We had a Logan Paul match andnow who gives a fuck?
Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
So you're thinking
Karrion Kross is going to maybe
team up with Logan, or you justthink he was just part of that
one and done he's not going toteam up?
Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
I don't think, but I
know there's going to be some
more development with KarrionKross, or at least AJ Styles is
going to feel some type of way,because Karrion Kross kind of
sort of put his nose in thebusiness when AJ Styles does not
want his nose to be there, andso it's like there's different
(01:29:07):
avenues that we can go with thiscarrying across and AJ Styles
bit, even if it does not caresor includes Logan Paul, because
it's probably not going toinclude Logan Paul, because it's
Logan not going to includeLogan Paul, because Logan Paul
he just fights at pay-per-views,he doesn't do anything else.
He is a spectacle, as we'rethrowing the word around.
Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
Damn son.
Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
But, I'm fine with
that.
Logan Paul's cool.
He's fun to watch.
I don't care about Logan.
Logan Paul's cool, he's fun towatch.
Blah, blah, blah.
But like I don't care aboutLogan Paul, give me my AJ Styles
.
Let me see what they're doing.
Do a Karrion Kross?
Let's move on with that now.
I'm fine with this solid B.
Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
You know, we got a
good low down from Paul and I
had to explain that to somebodythat was like, oh no, it's the
frog splash.
No, that is good low down frompaul.
And I had to explain that tosomebody that was like, oh no,
it's the frog splash.
Like, no, that is the low down.
Okay, uh, frog splash, you bendknees low down.
You don't bend, you do so goodload oh, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
I was like, yeah,
frog splash, you bend knees and
stuff.
Low down legs stay out andyou're throwing the hands down
as low as you can possibly get.
Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
It was.
It definitely was an eye match,definitely, definitely eye
Nothing too crazy to write homewith, which is where we kind of
go into the next match, which Ibelieve is the tag match,
definitely, definitely.
I nothing too crazy to writehome with, which is you know
where we kind of go into thenext match, which I believe is
the tag match, right, the onethat you were so dead set on
(01:30:52):
those two winning and suddenlywe find out that Becky can't be
a part of this match and shegets jumped.
Oh, lo and behold, her partner,valkyria's partner, is the man
himself.
Man, when Becky Lynch came out,Becky Lynch, I don't know, I
(01:31:20):
was, I want to say, a bit bitfrustrated.
I feel like it should have been.
It could be somebody, but like,is becky gonna be weekly coming
back to you know, episodic tv,or she's still on this hiatus
because you know she originallydidn't resign with the company
because they just couldn't cometo an agreement with her
(01:31:40):
contract.
Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
So there must have
been some agreement now, because
now she's not only with thecompany but she's also defending
those tag team titles at NXTagainst Lyra, valkyria's old
best friend in.
I forget the other girl's nameoff the top of my head.
Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
So, so, so that's it.
I forget the other girl's nameoff the top of my head.
So, so, so, when it when itcomes to that, we've always had
situations where somebody isstill doing things with a firm
handshake.
Cause, uh, kolkata.
While he was in new Japan for awhile, he was doing a lot of
things with just a firmhandshake because he wanted to
make his ventures to America.
And then you had similarsituations where, um, think of
(01:32:22):
people like mankind, so manywrestlers who've, like their
contract is ending and itcouldn't come to a mutual
agreement, but they're part of astoryline, sort of like, hey,
can we still have you?
And then we, you know, eventhough you're not obligated, or
like you're getting your, uh,under contract pay.
So, um, or like, you're gettingyour under contract pay.
So a lot of them have thosesituations like this, similar,
(01:32:45):
and that's what you're thinking.
Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
This is.
Speaker 1 (01:32:49):
I'm not too sure
right now.
We're going to do some researchto see, when it comes to Becky,
if she's staying or going,because a lot of word was people
saying she was going to gosomewhere and I'm like WWE is
her home, she leaves, then she'spulling an edge.
She's pulling an edge.
I don't think that's her.
I don't think that's her.
Uh, I do think going nowhere.
Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
Yeah, I'm doing tv
shows and having fun and being a
mommy and whatnot, but, like asfar as what we just saw, her
having those titles is going tomean she's back Now.
Maybe she might not be wrestlingevery time, but that's what
(01:33:31):
Lyra's for kind of thing, butshe's still the tag champion, so
she's got to do the thing.
Which is why I said and becauseit was announced on for NXT
that whoever won the match thatwas at NXT, that team was going
to fight, whoever came out ofWrestleMania Tag Team Champions
(01:33:51):
and the big Bexter and Lyrawhich, when you look at the
papers, it all makes sensebecause Bex and Lyra Becky, they
both had like before she left,they were scrapping and fighting
(01:34:24):
each other.
So it was like there was stuffthere Okay.
So it was like, with the factthat like her and Lyra are, and
then she don't like these twobecause of their previous
engagement, it was like I guessit makes sense why it could have
(01:34:46):
been Becky, but Becky been gonefor a minute and it kind of
showed in the ring a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
I ain't going not the
ring rest she had a little bit
listen.
Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
That's why Lyra was
in there doing the brunt of the
work.
Don't think I didn't catch that.
Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
I will give this
match a B, put my personal
feelings aside here me put mypersonal feelings aside here oh
here we go, I'll agree okay itwas a solid.
Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
All right, it was a
solid, it was a solid match.
It wasn't.
It wasn a solid match, itwasn't terrible.
It was Granite Beth Phoenix.
Geez, why do I have BethPhoenix on my mind?
Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
right now Get a load
of this.
Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
But Becky, miss Lynch
, the man, the man, she a little
rusty, but I'm sure she'll pickit back up.
But like, outside of thatlittle bit of ring'm sure she'll
pick it back up, but outside ofthat little bit of ring rush
that she kind of had going on.
Nah, it was solid.
Lyra held it down, liv Morganand Raquel, they stayed doing it
(01:36:15):
.
So I'm just like, okay, okay,all right, I enjoyed it, the
match.
Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
like I said, it's
definitely a decent match.
Nothing too crazy, Nothing towrite home to outside of the man
slam and getting the one, two,three.
Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
When it comes to my
personal feelings.
Bethlehem, you got to get thefuck out of here.
Fuck that goddamn channel man.
Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
I will agree.
But damn just fuck.
The rudeness is crazy, therudeness in the rudeness, the
rudeness.
Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
Oh okay, but we can
just talk all kinds of shit
about my queen, but you know, Ispeak my piece about how I feel
about the man and O'Homory.
Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
Alright, alright, but
the queen kind of deserves it,
but that's a different topic, adifferent day.
We gotta talk about the mostimportant match of this
pay-per-view, this PLE, whateverthe hell you want to call it.
Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
Fam, I don't even
want to talk.
Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
Bitch.
That's why we here.
Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
What?
What is there to talk about?
What, Maz?
What do you want to talk about?
Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
Let's talk about how
John Cena came out to his
fucking name on the TitanTron.
And that was his TitanTron, andthis is his last mania.
He's not running down like Cena, and a part of me was a bit
torn Because you know, wheneverhe's about to hit that course
(01:38:01):
and you get the 3 seconds hand,scrabble though, scrabble though
.
You don't do it.
Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
Yeah, no, you didn't
get no John Cena.
Speaker 1 (01:38:14):
I do find it funny,
though, that when he gets the
actual strap, when he wins thematch, he does it.
He does the three like he pullsthe belt up, he does it right
on time.
So it's funny, he does it.
But before we can kind of gointo details of this match, this
match was the storytelling.
(01:38:34):
The storytelling is reallydifficult to to kind of pick up
on because it's really a normalfucking match until travis stock
, travis scott comes out there,and with travis scott I I didn't
expect him to get in the ring.
(01:38:55):
He did get all ballsy in theface of Cody Rhodes and gets hit
with a crossroads and doesn'trealize he needs to take a
powder and get out the ring.
Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
So Cody just kicks
that motherfucker out the ring
damn Cody Rhodes, put some stinkon that crossroads dog oh yeah,
that motherfucker probably wasactually that crossroads was
stiff.
Rightfully so, that crossroadswas stiff.
Speaker 1 (01:39:25):
Rightfully so.
Well, we get to that next partwhere Cena has the belt, he's
going to smack him with the beltand then Cody catches him and
then John Cena provokes it, sayshey, man, here's your moment,
do a heel thing, take advantageof the moment and make sure you
secure the win.
(01:39:45):
And he does it.
And then he costs him Kick tothe balls A-A One, two, three.
So let's talk about in thatmoment, when he gets that one,
two, three, swag switcher.
What was your immediatereaction?
Speaker 2 (01:40:11):
trying to recall.
Oh, that's right, man, it's.
That is stupid.
This is stupid, this is dumb,this is garbage, that's it.
That's how we're doing it.
Why even Travis Scott?
(01:40:33):
Why any of this?
It was a letdown.
Why any of this it was aletdown?
It's one of those deals where Ifeel there were things that has
happened in the whole build-upto this match that did not need
to happen happened.
(01:40:55):
There needed to be an equal orbetter reaction to those actions
that were done and they didn'thave.
Listen, I think I broke it down.
I don't know if it was on cameraor not, but like, if we could
(01:41:16):
have had, if we could have hadeverything that had happened
right, minus the rock and TravisScott's involvement, I wouldn't
be bitching right now.
I wouldn't be.
And the reason why I wouldn'tbe is because it makes sense.
Everybody in the group chatwere all like, oh, thank god, we
(01:41:39):
didn't have a Dwayne Johnson inthis match.
I'm like, but we kind of neededhim.
Yeah, because we needed him tomake this whole angle make sense
.
How are we just thinking aboutthis now?
Right, like we kind of pulled awe honestly we almost kind of
(01:42:03):
pulled.
Like a classic Dragon Ball Zproblem.
Yeah, okay, where we forget thefact that we did this all the
way over here and then we justact as if it never happened.
You know what?
I'm saying we going on into thebeginning, the Rock wants Cody
(01:42:24):
Rhodes' soul and I want you tolet me know.
Are you with me or are youagainst me?
Let me know by EliminationChamber, because if you're
against me, there's going to beproblems and consequences and
your life will be a miserablehell.
(01:42:44):
Okay, some really tough thingsto be saying there, final boss.
So we get to eliminationchamber go fuck yourself, okay,
(01:43:04):
okay.
Chamber Go fuck yourself, okay,okay, alright, I gotcha,
alright.
Well, rock, what are you goingto do about that?
He told you to fornicate yourown person.
What you gonna do about it?
To fornicate his own person, Allfancy with it Like it was
(01:43:24):
really meaning something.
And John Cena looked the Rockin his face and gave him his
best Rikishi impersonation.
I did it for the Rock and hekicks him in the nuts and all
that happens okay, okay, okay.
Dwayne Johnson has everything todo with everything with this
(01:43:44):
goddamn match.
I don't care what anybody says.
He was the final boss, CodyRhodes.
He couldn't buy his soul.
So, without using words, butwith all the theatrics, it, it,
it.
I guess that means that JohnCena has sold his soul to Dwayne
(01:44:08):
Johnson, Is it?
Or did I miscommunicate thatsomehow?
I maybe maybe, maybe, but, but,but.
But why?
If he did not sell his soul toDwayne, then why was it so
important that he get the signalfrom Dwayne Johnson to do all
(01:44:35):
of these things Like?
Why was that supposed to beimportant?
You have?
A point why did they have to doanything with anything?
Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
You have a point, and
that is honestly the biggest
frustration when it comes tothis match on paper, because
after the promos and everything,you're just like you're craving
something.
Yeah, he was there too.
Let's not talk about him.
We just brought him up brieflybecause he got crossroads.
(01:45:08):
No, no, no.
We brought him up because wewant to talk about him getting
crossroads.
We want to talk about that Himgetting hurt, him getting his
ass kicked.
But the thing.
Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
That gets me so going
back to it.
Right, because, as of right now, it's been heavily implied that
Dwayne the Rock Johnson andTravis Scott are in coots and
they're both the heels inthisots and they're both the
heels in this manner and theyare part of the sell your soul
(01:45:44):
tribe of the final boss, and ithas been inferred that John Cena
has sold his soul to the finalboss.
It's been inferred relativelyheavily.
Now, all the way up until thismatch tonight it was like, okay,
(01:46:12):
maybe it's not inferred.
And then Travis Scott comes out,all right, and he comes out,
alright, and he comes out andJohn Cena's all like, ah,
there's my backup, there's mypiece of this final boss pie,
there's my stuff.
(01:46:34):
He's all happy and joyousbecause he's like yup, this is
exactly what the fuck I need toget the job done tonight and
leave out of here with the titleyes, sir, this, that man right
there, oh, travi my boy.
(01:46:56):
So is Travis Scott just arepresentation of?
Oh, travi my boy.
So is Travis Scott just arepresentation of the final boss
in his absence in thisparticular case?
Because once again, this is nowtying in the fact that, okay,
so John Cena does have some kindof ties to his soul being sold
(01:47:18):
to the final boss, because hewould not have this power to
summon Travis Scott to come downthere to the ring to aid.
Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
Maybe I will say this
much.
When it comes to the match, itwas fairly decent.
The ending wasn't what I wasexpecting.
The ending was garbage.
The finish was very much oh, Ihit you with belt.
Iaa is done, and even RussellTalk.
(01:47:59):
I watched their reaction to itas well.
They were just like, oh, I wasthe finish.
Speaker 2 (01:48:05):
Yeah yeah.
You know why it was probablylike that?
Because all the stuff and allthe buildup that they had
leading into this did not equalthe payout as a matter of fact.
It only it didn't just notequal the payout as a matter of
fact, it didn't just not equalthe payout.
But if the final price was$10.99, homie didn't even give
(01:48:29):
me the proper bills.
He out here with like changeand it's not exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
Not the proper bills
bro.
Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
Not only was it not
exact change, but, for whatever
fucking reason, homie came uphere and was like hey, what
could I get with like eighteuros?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, in this case, nothing,because that's not what we asked
for, that's not what weadvertised.
And now here we are.
(01:49:00):
No final boss.
Like it or not, he needed to bethere to make any of this dumb
stuff make sense.
We got Travis got for nofucking reason.
Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
We got him for the
reason, for the distraction
which gave us the crossroads,which gave us the beltroads,
which gave us the belt whichgave us the AA but hear me on
this, the way it was originallypresented.
Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
Travis Scott comes
out there.
He's staying on the ring.
The fuck was he gonna do thereferee?
The referee was looking at bothof them like you're looking at
me with those sunglasses, allright.
Okay, the fuck was he going todo?
What was he going to do?
And then he holds him like, hey, travis, get a shot.
(01:49:56):
This is a disqualification typematch, brother.
If you, there's a reason why wedidn't do anything until after
referee got knocked out.
The referee was up, so what areyou just gonna let him?
(01:50:17):
Let Travis Scott hit him andthe referee's gonna be like, oh
well, I guess that'sdisqualification, buddy, you
lose.
Speaker 1 (01:50:24):
Not at Mania, you
would have let us laugh.
It's Mania, no.
Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
Nigga, you sound like
them AEW motherfuckers, where
it's all like it doesn't makeany sense, but like that's
exactly what should happenthough it's honestly what you
(01:50:54):
got.
Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
It's literally what
you got.
It got like you got a mainevent with Seth Rollins and Paul
Heyman which you're like whatthe fuck?
And then you get John Cenawinning the belt, which I knew
was going to happen and honestly, the story I wanted, but how he
did it and how it wasn't thegrand spectacle.
Like we've had twoWrestleManias where those main
events were like that was likethe Avengers, my guy, and do you
(01:51:20):
get this mad lackluster one,not no, no tricks, no, nothing
outside of you know travis scott, but yeah, and you get it to go
one, two, three in the show andthen it just didn't feel like
it ended the right way so you'recorrect, it did not.
Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
Actually I would if
travis scott was not there it
would have made everything thathappened make a thousand times
more sense and a bit moremeaningful if we did not have
this whole final boss fiasco inthe very beginning.
(01:52:03):
Because that was a bigdistraction to everything with
the story.
Because up until this pointwe're all like, okay, okay, we
get it, you guys are going tohave these talks, but what about
the final boss?
Because it's not actually beenanswered.
Speaker 1 (01:52:23):
this whole time no
one is saying whether or not.
Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
If this does, did
john cena sell his soul?
Like, did he actually sell outto the rock?
Or because right now, at thispoint, it's kind of like, no, he
didn't sell out to the rock.
He he just, I guess, used theRock real quick as a very, very
brief distraction so he couldkick him in the nuts.
And if that's the case, thenwhy did he need the Rock to tell
(01:52:48):
him to do it, like if the Rockwasn't going to have anything to
do with any of this at the end?
It's stupid.
Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
Absolutely dumb.
Speaker 2 (01:52:57):
Waste time.
It was a waste of time.
I mean putting my feelingsaside here.
The match was not bad.
Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
C.
I give it a.
Speaker 2 (01:53:12):
C, but because of the
fact that I gotta add, it's a C
and it's a low one, becausethey, they, the build-up
absolutely missed.
It didn't meet.
It did not just not meet theexpectations, the build-up
(01:53:37):
completely missed the fuckingmark.
Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
I agree, I agree, not
meet the expectations.
The build-up completely missedthe fucking mark, I'll agree,
and I'll agree that wasn't.
It wasn't a spectacle behind.
I mean, I really thought thismatch was gonna be crazy, man.
I thought this match was gonnabe crazy and it was crazy, all
right.
Crazy, predictable, crazy,predictable.
We got cena as champ now andnow I'm like man, cena is your
last run man, make these nextcouple of matches memorable,
(01:54:04):
make these next momentsmemorable.
And he's staying in character,even in the interviews and
everything.
And that was wrestlemania.
And, yes, this was a very, verylukewarm mid-mania.
It was just, it wasn'tdisappointing, it was just more
(01:54:28):
so, it was shocking.
But this was advertised the wayit was, it was promoted the way
it was, and you looked at someof the matches, like we said
before, and it was just like Idon't know about that one and it
showed.
It showed.
Mania turned out to be the Idon't know about this one listen
.
Speaker 2 (01:54:47):
Like it got me going
back to that comment that I saw
in the group chat.
I'm like man, did I actuallyhave rose colored glasses on
this whole time?
I'd like to not think that Idid like.
I think there was substance tothis Wrestlemania.
Speaker 1 (01:55:04):
They just failed to
deliver and then you got stand
and deliver.
Come on, you want me to give mean ad.
I can talk about your stuff inthe future, but uh, I will agree
.
Uh, rust man was c, definitelya c um.
Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
Delivery was better
damn damn well.
Speaker 1 (01:55:36):
Mania unfortunately
did not hit the mark as we
thought it would.
We had a lot of preparation, alot of hype and matches.
Uh, I would say my predictionswent well.
I had a couple of mishaps, uh,same thing for swag.
But man, when I say this maniacould have been better, uh,
especially with how they wereadvertising, it could have been
(01:55:56):
better, but it wasn't.
But it wasn't bad, but itwasn't good, so it wasn't bad.
Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
It was not what was
advertised there you go, there
you go.
Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
So what do you guys
thoughts in the comment section?
Please let us know what yourthoughts when it came to mania
do you?
Do you think it was good?
Do you think it was bad, andwhat do you think it was good?
Do you think it was bad andwhat do you think you would
improve about it?
Uh, give me your, uh, we'llgive us your ideas of how you
would make mania better, whetherif it's updating a match,
whether if you're putting on aspecific match.
(01:56:28):
Let us know how you would havemade mania better in the comment
section.
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Speaker 2 (01:57:30):
It's your boy, the
most disappointed swag switcher
of all times.
Speaker 1 (01:57:40):
It is what it is and
Wrestlemania is over, looking
forward to Raw and we'll see youguys soon.
Deuces.