August 18, 2025 • 10 mins
Eagles, Cowboys, Commanders, and Giants
In this episode, the Spencer, James and Jiselle discuss the forecast for the NFC East division in the 2025 NFL season. The Philadelphia Eagles aim to repeat their division win, while the Dallas Cowboys continue to grapple with their perennial soap opera status. The Washington Commanders, with their second-year quarterback Jayden Daniels, hope to avoid a sophomore slump after their surprise NFC championship appearance. Meanwhile, the New York Giants deal with their uncertain quarterback situation and lack of offensive firepower. The hosts debate on key factors that could influence the division, potential player performances, and team predictions, concluding with their picks for the division winner.
00:42 Key Players and X Factors
01:59 Eagles' Strengths and Weaknesses
02:43 Dallas Cowboys: Media Frenzy
05:32 Giants' Offensive Woes
06:59 Giants' Defensive Struggles
09:38 Predictions and Final Thoughts
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Transcript
Episode Transcript
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(00:00):
The NFC East is going to beabsolutely insane in 2025.
(00:05):
The defending Super Bowlchampions, the Philadelphia
Eagles are looking to repeat asdivision winners for the first
time in this division since2004.
The Dallas Cowboys areconstantly a soap opera, as
Jerry Jones says it.
The commanders in second yearquarterback, Jayden Daniels, are
looking to build upon a surpriseNFC championship appearance.
(00:28):
And then of course you've gotBrian D.
James Winston Jackson Dart andRussell Wilson up in New York.
What are the giants gonna belike in 2025?
James, you're an Eagles fan, sotry to be objective here.
What's your X factor in 2025 inthe NFC East?
Oh man, my X factor.
(00:49):
Yo, where, where are the ticketsat for Super Bowl 60?
That's the, that's the god dangobjective right there.
Where are the tickets at forSuper Bowl 60?
Just pencil it.
No, in all seriousness, I willsay if there's one thing that's
gonna be an X factor for me withthis division is, do we see
Jayden Daniels have thesophomore slump that everyone's
(01:11):
projecting since, when CJ Stroudhad the best rookie season ever
and then didn't measure up towhat happened?
Of course, those are a lot ofcontext.
I'm missing from the Texanssecond year.
Correct.
But in, in the end all be all, Imean, look, we saw the
commanders go from the secondpick in the draft to the NFC
Championship.
Now they've added some piecesto, you know, their defense.
(01:32):
I may maybe a little older, alittle wiser than most teams do,
but hey, I think talent istalent.
You get someone like a VNMiller, you know, hey, someone
who can pass rush in those deepgames.
And at this moment, Spence andGiselle, I mean, as always.
The Cowboys probably are thefourth best team in that
division.
(01:52):
I like what I'm seeing.
But in all honesty, yeah, Ithink it's really just the
commanders.
'cause you know what the Eaglesare gonna do.
They still have everyone on theoffensive side.
Yes, Landon Dickerson is hurtwith a potential meniscus tear,
but a meniscus tear is betterthan an ACL tear.
And how they've been able torotate offensive lineman year
after year so they're gonna befine there.
(02:13):
Defense, of course, losingDarius Slay, cj, Gardner
Johnson, Milton Williams, JoshSweat.
What do you do?
They just add young talent.
They got the youngest defenseand the cheapest defense in the
NFL as of right now.
So we'll see.
The biggest question right nowfor the Eagles is that second
safety beside Reed Blankenship.
(02:33):
I know with CJ gone and peopleare throwing out the rumors.
Maybe Justin Simmons, who knows.
But yeah, right now it's if thecommanders are gonna have a
sophomore slump or not.
Giselle, those Dallas cowboys,man, they're always in the news,
especially these days.
And we know Jerry Jones lovesit.
What are your thoughts on theCowboys in 2025?
Giselle like Denzel set himselfon first.
(02:56):
Take all money.
Ain't good money.
Do you know how wild that youhave Denzel Washington on First
take telling you that theCowboys are trash and he's been
a fan since he was like, sincehe was a young Denzel
Washington.
Yeah.
That says a lot.
And the fact of the matter isthe fact that Jerry Jones
(03:18):
himself was like, I like tocategorize the Cowboys as being
the Stop the soap opera, sir.
No, no.
At least say a Netflix show orsomething.
Yeah.
Jesus.
Give the time.
I'm nice opera.
The Times.
It's not smart to defend JerryJones on anything.
And I'm not going to do so, I'mjust gonna tell you all this.
(03:39):
It's all so funny.
The timing of Jerry Jones comingout saying, there're a soap
opera.
And then at the same time, oh,another year, six years in a
row, the Callous Cowboys are themost valuable sports franchise
in the whole NFL.
And then the same time, oh,Jerry Jones had stage four
cancer that he beat by trying anexperimental drug.
(04:02):
By the way, I, let's be honest,Cowboys fans, y'all be honest
with us.
Y'all know when y'all got thatnotifications, you were like,
ah, we were so close.
Don't lie to me.
Don't lie to me.
You knew it.
You knew what you were thinking.
I can't.
No.
But really though, the onlything I'm looking forward to
this season in regards to theCowboys is just seeing CD Lamb
(04:23):
play.
I like watching him run routes.
I think he's a fantastic player.
Everything else, aside from thedrama to the mishap to the, this
will be our year.
We them boys?
No, no.
You guys are in the land of dLulu, please.
You guys are the second best NFLteam.
The Texans are number one.
(04:44):
Alright, I got two questionsbefore we go to our picks in
this division.
My first question based off ofwhat Giselle just said, I want
y'all to fill in the blank onthis statement.
Cd LAMB is a top blank widereceiver in the NFL six.
I was gonna say five.
Okay.
I think that's fair.
I think I'd probably say five.
I think you have to say five.
(05:06):
But some might say top three andI'm like, I could name three
guys.
I'd rather have I, I'd, I canname three guys.
I'd rather have, okay.
I can name three guys.
I can, I'd rather have, well topthree.
That's room for a nice debate.
But to appease and everyone beat a firm stable ground,
everyone can agree andcompromise.
(05:26):
It's top five.
All right.
My second question for y'alland.
This is more of a triviaquestion.
Can either of y'all name thestarting tight end for the New
York Giants?
I'm looking at their depth chartright here.
Can either of y'all name thatperson?
I'm going somewhere with this.
Can either of y'all name thestarting tight end for the New
York Giants?
(05:46):
I'm gonna keep it a buck and abean with you guys.
I have not really cared aboutthe New York Giants since Eli
Manning left.
I am not gonna lie to you thepast giant, tight ends.
I could with like Darren Wallerand Ingram and Jeremy Shockey.
No, I cannot name the 2025 startand tight end for the New York
Giants.
(06:06):
Yeah, that would be one.
Theo Johnson.
And I didn't know that until Ilooked it up right here, and I
was like, I bet neither of theseguys know it either because the
New York giants outside of MalikNeighbors and mm-hmm.
Maybe to an extent, maybe deSlaton on a good day.
They are completely desolate interms of offensive firepower and
(06:28):
all they really have is maybe, agym in the rough with Cam Scbu.
But I'm currently seeing he'sthird on their depth chart
behind Tyrone Tracy and DevonSingle Terry.
And I actually like Tyron Tracya lot.
Yeah.
Tracy.
Yeah.
But this is a team that.
Is not very talented.
I think they're going to be inthe conversation even if Jackson
(06:49):
Dart comes in.
And I do think we see him startgames this year.
And even if he comes in and isgreat, I think this is a team
that's vying for the number oneoverall pick in 2026.
I look at this defense, not alot to be excited about outside
of Dexter Lawrence.
Outside of that, there's reallynot a lot to get excited about.
A lot of very mediocre talentthere.
(07:10):
Abdul Carter definitely keep aneye on, but not even showing him
as the starting defensive end.
Right now he is behind BrianBurns on their depth chart.
Of course, these are just depthcharts and I'm looking at ESPN
depth charts changed a lot inthe preseason, but again,
there's just not a lot of talenton this team.
And they're gonna be in theconversation for the top overall
pick next year.
And we're gonna have discussionsabout if Jackson Dart doesn't
(07:33):
look good, do they goquarterback back to back years
and pull up Arizona Cardinals?
I don't know.
I'll say this, Vince, uh, beforelike maybe 30 days ago, I was
with you on this.
I was like, man, I see theGiants starting off the season
one and five just right off therip.
But ever since things have beencrippling in Dallas and you
(07:55):
know, you never know some ofthese NFC East games, you know,
I think the Giants are gonnastart the season now three and
two, and then they'll lose theEagles three and three and then.
The rest goes down from hereafter that, then the rest drop.
Everything drops after that.
That's fair.
Losses to the Broncos.
Eagles.
Niners Bears, Packers, lions,maybe the Patriots, but I still
(08:18):
get the Patriots.
They'll lose against thecommanders.
And their last three games,Vikings, Raiders, Cowboys, what
would that put their record at?
Probably.
How many wins was that?
Did you have Probably, I, I'mgiving them four wins right now.
Yeah.
With the, with the remainingthree games left.
So you have'em gotten to threeand two and then finishing four
and 13.
(08:38):
Yeah.
That okay.
I, I could see that.
I'll just say this, we know howsports media works.
We know if they got to three andtwo Oh, the Giants are sneaky,
contenders in the n ft.
They could, they get in on awild card.
Russ has always been the answer.
And then, like you mentioned,after that, it'll be jamas and
(08:59):
after that it'll be dark.
All right.
Well, they have a nice carouselof quarterbacks so.
I, you gotta love optionssometimes just not so much when
it comes to your NFL quarterbackfor your team, but I guess in
the Giants case that's all yougot.
You just gotta work with it.
We have four quarterbacks beforewe go off.
The Giants over under two and ahalf different quarterbacks
(09:22):
starting games in 2025.
I think I hammer the over overhammering the over And I think
we could, we could.
It's possible.
We see all four guys.
Wilson Winston Dart and TommyDanny DeVito is still on the
roster.
Yeah, man.
Alrighty guys.
NFC East.
Who we picking?
Eagles Spence, come on.
(09:44):
It's, it's been over 21 yearsfor this.
The last time it's happened, itwas the Eagles and Jalen Hertz
just broke the last curse ofwhen you lose your first Super
Bowl, someone they, no one everget back and win another one.
So guess what?
We're gonna break cur numbertwo.
Eagles 12 and five.
Period.
We're gonna go three for threehere I have the Eagles also
(10:07):
bucking the trend.
A trend that has won me plentyof money in the past.
Yeah.
Betting on the Cowboys and theEagles in back to back years.
On a future this year, I will bebetting on the Philadelphia
Eagles to buck the trend andrepeat as division champs in
2025.
But y'all let us know in thecomments, who do you got winning
the n mc East in 2025.
The NFC East is going to beabsolutely insane in 2025.
(00:05):
The defending Super Bowlchampions, the Philadelphia
Eagles are looking to repeat asdivision winners for the first
time in this division since2004.
The Dallas Cowboys areconstantly a soap opera, as
Jerry Jones says it.
The commanders in second yearquarterback, Jayden Daniels, are
looking to build upon a surpriseNFC championship appearance.
(00:28):
And then of course you've gotBrian D.
James Winston Jackson Dart andRussell Wilson up in New York.
What are the giants gonna belike in 2025?
James, you're an Eagles fan, sotry to be objective here.
What's your X factor in 2025 inthe NFC East?
Oh man, my X factor.
(00:49):
Yo, where, where are the ticketsat for Super Bowl 60?
That's the, that's the god dangobjective right there.
Where are the tickets at forSuper Bowl 60?
Just pencil it.
No, in all seriousness, I willsay if there's one thing that's
gonna be an X factor for me withthis division is, do we see
Jayden Daniels have thesophomore slump that everyone's
(01:11):
projecting since, when CJ Stroudhad the best rookie season ever
and then didn't measure up towhat happened?
Of course, those are a lot ofcontext.
I'm missing from the Texanssecond year.
Correct.
But in, in the end all be all, Imean, look, we saw the
commanders go from the secondpick in the draft to the NFC
Championship.
Now they've added some piecesto, you know, their defense.
(01:32):
I may maybe a little older, alittle wiser than most teams do,
but hey, I think talent istalent.
You get someone like a VNMiller, you know, hey, someone
who can pass rush in those deepgames.
And at this moment, Spence andGiselle, I mean, as always.
The Cowboys probably are thefourth best team in that
division.
(01:52):
I like what I'm seeing.
But in all honesty, yeah, Ithink it's really just the
commanders.
'cause you know what the Eaglesare gonna do.
They still have everyone on theoffensive side.
Yes, Landon Dickerson is hurtwith a potential meniscus tear,
but a meniscus tear is betterthan an ACL tear.
And how they've been able torotate offensive lineman year
after year so they're gonna befine there.
(02:13):
Defense, of course, losingDarius Slay, cj, Gardner
Johnson, Milton Williams, JoshSweat.
What do you do?
They just add young talent.
They got the youngest defenseand the cheapest defense in the
NFL as of right now.
So we'll see.
The biggest question right nowfor the Eagles is that second
safety beside Reed Blankenship.
(02:33):
I know with CJ gone and peopleare throwing out the rumors.
Maybe Justin Simmons, who knows.
But yeah, right now it's if thecommanders are gonna have a
sophomore slump or not.
Giselle, those Dallas cowboys,man, they're always in the news,
especially these days.
And we know Jerry Jones lovesit.
What are your thoughts on theCowboys in 2025?
Giselle like Denzel set himselfon first.
(02:56):
Take all money.
Ain't good money.
Do you know how wild that youhave Denzel Washington on First
take telling you that theCowboys are trash and he's been
a fan since he was like, sincehe was a young Denzel
Washington.
Yeah.
That says a lot.
And the fact of the matter isthe fact that Jerry Jones
(03:18):
himself was like, I like tocategorize the Cowboys as being
the Stop the soap opera, sir.
No, no.
At least say a Netflix show orsomething.
Yeah.
Jesus.
Give the time.
I'm nice opera.
The Times.
It's not smart to defend JerryJones on anything.
And I'm not going to do so, I'mjust gonna tell you all this.
(03:39):
It's all so funny.
The timing of Jerry Jones comingout saying, there're a soap
opera.
And then at the same time, oh,another year, six years in a
row, the Callous Cowboys are themost valuable sports franchise
in the whole NFL.
And then the same time, oh,Jerry Jones had stage four
cancer that he beat by trying anexperimental drug.
(04:02):
By the way, I, let's be honest,Cowboys fans, y'all be honest
with us.
Y'all know when y'all got thatnotifications, you were like,
ah, we were so close.
Don't lie to me.
Don't lie to me.
You knew it.
You knew what you were thinking.
I can't.
No.
But really though, the onlything I'm looking forward to
this season in regards to theCowboys is just seeing CD Lamb
(04:23):
play.
I like watching him run routes.
I think he's a fantastic player.
Everything else, aside from thedrama to the mishap to the, this
will be our year.
We them boys?
No, no.
You guys are in the land of dLulu, please.
You guys are the second best NFLteam.
The Texans are number one.
(04:44):
Alright, I got two questionsbefore we go to our picks in
this division.
My first question based off ofwhat Giselle just said, I want
y'all to fill in the blank onthis statement.
Cd LAMB is a top blank widereceiver in the NFL six.
I was gonna say five.
Okay.
I think that's fair.
I think I'd probably say five.
I think you have to say five.
(05:06):
But some might say top three andI'm like, I could name three
guys.
I'd rather have I, I'd, I canname three guys.
I'd rather have, okay.
I can name three guys.
I can, I'd rather have, well topthree.
That's room for a nice debate.
But to appease and everyone beat a firm stable ground,
everyone can agree andcompromise.
(05:26):
It's top five.
All right.
My second question for y'alland.
This is more of a triviaquestion.
Can either of y'all name thestarting tight end for the New
York Giants?
I'm looking at their depth chartright here.
Can either of y'all name thatperson?
I'm going somewhere with this.
Can either of y'all name thestarting tight end for the New
York Giants?
(05:46):
I'm gonna keep it a buck and abean with you guys.
I have not really cared aboutthe New York Giants since Eli
Manning left.
I am not gonna lie to you thepast giant, tight ends.
I could with like Darren Wallerand Ingram and Jeremy Shockey.
No, I cannot name the 2025 startand tight end for the New York
Giants.
(06:06):
Yeah, that would be one.
Theo Johnson.
And I didn't know that until Ilooked it up right here, and I
was like, I bet neither of theseguys know it either because the
New York giants outside of MalikNeighbors and mm-hmm.
Maybe to an extent, maybe deSlaton on a good day.
They are completely desolate interms of offensive firepower and
(06:28):
all they really have is maybe, agym in the rough with Cam Scbu.
But I'm currently seeing he'sthird on their depth chart
behind Tyrone Tracy and DevonSingle Terry.
And I actually like Tyron Tracya lot.
Yeah.
Tracy.
Yeah.
But this is a team that.
Is not very talented.
I think they're going to be inthe conversation even if Jackson
(06:49):
Dart comes in.
And I do think we see him startgames this year.
And even if he comes in and isgreat, I think this is a team
that's vying for the number oneoverall pick in 2026.
I look at this defense, not alot to be excited about outside
of Dexter Lawrence.
Outside of that, there's reallynot a lot to get excited about.
A lot of very mediocre talentthere.
(07:10):
Abdul Carter definitely keep aneye on, but not even showing him
as the starting defensive end.
Right now he is behind BrianBurns on their depth chart.
Of course, these are just depthcharts and I'm looking at ESPN
depth charts changed a lot inthe preseason, but again,
there's just not a lot of talenton this team.
And they're gonna be in theconversation for the top overall
pick next year.
And we're gonna have discussionsabout if Jackson Dart doesn't
(07:33):
look good, do they goquarterback back to back years
and pull up Arizona Cardinals?
I don't know.
I'll say this, Vince, uh, beforelike maybe 30 days ago, I was
with you on this.
I was like, man, I see theGiants starting off the season
one and five just right off therip.
But ever since things have beencrippling in Dallas and you
(07:55):
know, you never know some ofthese NFC East games, you know,
I think the Giants are gonnastart the season now three and
two, and then they'll lose theEagles three and three and then.
The rest goes down from hereafter that, then the rest drop.
Everything drops after that.
That's fair.
Losses to the Broncos.
Eagles.
Niners Bears, Packers, lions,maybe the Patriots, but I still
(08:18):
get the Patriots.
They'll lose against thecommanders.
And their last three games,Vikings, Raiders, Cowboys, what
would that put their record at?
Probably.
How many wins was that?
Did you have Probably, I, I'mgiving them four wins right now.
Yeah.
With the, with the remainingthree games left.
So you have'em gotten to threeand two and then finishing four
and 13.
(08:38):
Yeah.
That okay.
I, I could see that.
I'll just say this, we know howsports media works.
We know if they got to three andtwo Oh, the Giants are sneaky,
contenders in the n ft.
They could, they get in on awild card.
Russ has always been the answer.
And then, like you mentioned,after that, it'll be jamas and
(08:59):
after that it'll be dark.
All right.
Well, they have a nice carouselof quarterbacks so.
I, you gotta love optionssometimes just not so much when
it comes to your NFL quarterbackfor your team, but I guess in
the Giants case that's all yougot.
You just gotta work with it.
We have four quarterbacks beforewe go off.
The Giants over under two and ahalf different quarterbacks
(09:22):
starting games in 2025.
I think I hammer the over overhammering the over And I think
we could, we could.
It's possible.
We see all four guys.
Wilson Winston Dart and TommyDanny DeVito is still on the
roster.
Yeah, man.
Alrighty guys.
NFC East.
Who we picking?
Eagles Spence, come on.
(09:44):
It's, it's been over 21 yearsfor this.
The last time it's happened, itwas the Eagles and Jalen Hertz
just broke the last curse ofwhen you lose your first Super
Bowl, someone they, no one everget back and win another one.
So guess what?
We're gonna break cur numbertwo.
Eagles 12 and five.
Period.
We're gonna go three for threehere I have the Eagles also
(10:07):
bucking the trend.
A trend that has won me plentyof money in the past.
Yeah.
Betting on the Cowboys and theEagles in back to back years.
On a future this year, I will bebetting on the Philadelphia
Eagles to buck the trend andrepeat as division champs in
2025.
But y'all let us know in thecomments, who do you got winning
the n mc East in 2025.
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