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September 4, 2025 111 mins

In hour one, Michelle sits down with Brandon Hill, an organizer with the Amazon Labor Union (ALU) at KCVG. Brandon shares what it’s like to build a new chapter of the ALU from the ground up, and reflects on his experiences with the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) as part of a broader push for worker power.

In hour two, Mark and Clayton talk with Judge Ginger Bock from the First District Court of Appeals. Judge Bock breaks down the appellate court process, offering listeners a clear explanation of how appeals shape the legal system and what it truly means to serve as a judge.

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