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October 1, 2025 31 mins

What happens when your entire world shatters—and you have to rebuild from scratch? 

In this powerful episode, Kathy Love shares her journey from devastation to discovering the life-changing practices of self-care, boundaries, and radical self-worth. She opens up about the darkest chapter of her life and how it eventually became the catalyst for growth and healing. 

Courtney and Kathy dive deep into codependency, the myths around self-care, and what it really means to step into your best self. Get ready for wisdom, honesty, and tools you can start using today.

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

  • Kathy shares how her first TED Talk happened just two weeks after her ex-husband went to prison.
  • Why self-care is not indulgent—it’s essential for survival and thriving.
  • The role of codependency in daily life, and how to recognize when it’s depleting you.
  • Practical examples of saying “no” with compassion while saying “yes” to yourself.
  • The power of retreats, community, and closing the gap between your best self and your daily life.
  • Kathy’s advice to her 18-year-old self: turn the energy you give others back toward yourself.
  • The importance of presence, deep breathing, and choosing to live in the now.

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

  • “Every time I hear you go through that list, Kathy, I just keep reflecting on myself.” - Courney Turich
  • “You were glowing today, and I see you living your best self, it makes my heart so full.”  - Courney Turich
  • “You’ve helped me in so many ways, my friend, and it’s only the beginning of our friendship.”  - Courney Turich
  • “I really hope this conversation helps everyone listening to start reflecting on themselves too.”  - Courney Turich
  • “Please, go be bold, be confident, and be you.”  - Courney Turich
  • “We are all codependent, what matters is when it starts depleting us.” - Kathy Love
  • “The healing doesn’t take as long as it took to learn all these unhealthy behaviors.” - Kathy Love
  • “Take the energy you give everyone else and spend it on yourself—you are enough right now.” - Kathy Love
  • “I don’t have to separate my work from self-care; it’s all part of who I am.” - Kathy Love
  • “Just take a breath—stay in the present moment where everything is just right.” - Kathy Love

About Kathy

Kathy Love is the Managing Editor at Outlier Magazine, and also the Chief Community Officer at The Outlier Project. Kathy is an author, self-care coach, Vice President at SomethingNew LLC, public speaker at TEDx, and the owner of Jack Saia LLC. Kathy is a business consultant and the founder/director of Ucan2, Inc. Kathy holds a certificate in Positive Psychology from the University of Pennsylvania and a Bachelor of Science in Education from State University of New York Cortland.

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