November 27, 2024 • 17 mins
Hosts Justine and Lisa are back, bringing their signature mix of sharp insights, humour, and unfiltered ADHD realness. This episode tackles impulsivity, public scrutiny, and how ADHD shows up in high-pressure situations. Inspired by the media storm around Dave Grohl’s recent personal revelations, they unpack the complexities of impulsive behaviour and public judgment through an ADHD lens.
Episode Highlights
- Impulsivity and Immediate Rewards Justine and Lisa dive into ADHD traits like emotional urgency, seeking instant gratification, and the challenge of self-regulation. They highlight how hyperfocus and impulsive actions can sometimes lead to neglecting personal needs or relationships. The hosts explore the neuroscience behind it all—dopamine deficiencies and the struggle with delayed gratification—and how this underpins behaviour that might appear selfish or reckless to others.
- ADHD, Empathy, and the Dave Grohl Media Frenzy Using Dave Grohl as a lens, the duo critiques media sensationalism and public quick-to-judge narratives. They argue that without an ADHD perspective, society misses the deeper context behind actions. They share how public figures like Dave become targets of armchair pundits, and call for a shift towards empathy and understanding—especially for those navigating neurodiverse challenges in the spotlight.
- Transitions, Loss, and Grief Through the ADHD Brain The hosts reflect on how transitions, like grieving or navigating major life changes, can overwhelm ADHDers. They link this to Dave’s recent life events, discussing how ADHD brains struggle with processing grief and transitions, leading to emotional and behavioural shifts. By weaving in lived experiences, they make the science of ADHD personal and relatable.
- The Role of Community and Safe Spaces Justine and Lisa emphasize the need for safe, judgment-free environments where neurodiverse individuals can process and heal. They extend an open invitation to Dave Grohl, reminding listeners that behind every scandal is a human story deserving compassion.
Key Takeaways
- ADHD Explains, But Doesn’t Excuse Understanding ADHD helps contextualise impulsive behaviours, but it’s not about justifying poor decisions—it’s about fostering empathy and deeper insights into why people act the way they do.
- Transitions Are Tough for ADHD Brains Whether it’s life changes, grief, or even shifting tasks, transitions demand executive functioning skills that ADHD brains find challenging.
- Empathy is the Game-Changer Instead of piling on judgment, the world needs to approach neurodiverse behaviours with curiosity and compassion.
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(00:00):
Welcome to the Bournwild ADHD podcast. I'm Justine and together with my partner in chaos
(00:07):
Lisa we're here to get loud, have a laugh, share some knowledge and keep it real about
living with ADHD.
Welcome to Bournwild where we cover 20 topics in 5 minutes.
And don't say the actual thing that we did a week's worth of floating on said no ADHD
person ever. If you want the outcome on what we talked about, check into the next episode.
(00:29):
Yeah, or just, you know, download the fucking worksheet and we won't do it.
We've moved on with Gord now.
Yeah, we do have visuals if you want to do your own research.
But look, why don't we get on to what we actually plan to talk about. This is gonna be hilarious.
I love this already.
This is so good.
(00:56):
Moving on to the episode that we actually plan to record the first time around but hit
some technical roadblocks.
Was something that we had inadvertently ended up riffing on. And that's because I sent you
a link to the article about Dave Braul fathering a child outside of his marriage. And I just
(01:18):
said, is this something you need to tell me?
I was like, yeah, I wish.
Right? Don't you think that would be the first thing that she'd tell me?
Yeah, you would know.
But you know, we got chatting about it. And I think it sort of evolved over the period
of a few days where we started to feel really sorry for what was going on in the media,
(01:42):
which was not just the media, but the social media Karens were getting involved and just
taking the man down.
Yeah, I was really sad. And I think I was sad because I knew that everyone was going
to eat him alive from that point on and nothing would be the same again. More than anything.
(02:05):
Right. Yeah. I mean, it was first and foremost a shocking piece of information because he'd
had this image of being such a family man and you know, the nicest guy.
And he is like, it doesn't mean he's not. Yeah.
I mean, I think we can get into it because that's part of the masking that we do or the
public persona that we want people to see. But under the hood of that, when you're talking
(02:30):
about an ADHD brain, there's a lot of mechanics going on. And the bit that I think upset both
of us greatly was the media going in on him and then all of the, you know, fucking armchair
pundits ripping into him. And I just want to start by saying, I think all of the Karens
need to get off his dick about it.
(02:52):
Absolutely. And that's the thing. If you're not in the arena, Karen.
Back the fuck up.
Like yeah, totally. That's a lot of Renee Brown. She got attacked once. So I forget
who she quoted it from, but if they're not in the arena, I think it was like Aristotle
or someone flashed that she quoted it from. Yeah. But like, why am I taking comments from
(03:14):
people that haven't given it a go and live their life and face the challenges and use
their balls to go make something of themselves? And yeah, they just sit in their armchairs
and throw stones from their keyboard.
And absolutely. And look, I think the media takes, and I don't hate the media, but I think
(03:35):
that there's a tendency to create clickbait and there's a tendency to drive narratives
that serve the purpose of the organization. And we know that media is supposed to be impartial,
but we all know that it's not. And so there's this sensationalizing of story, but actually
(03:56):
these are people's lives that we're talking about. And there's a beautiful little family
at the heart of it. That was our first reaction was that there's this beautiful little family
at the heart of this that's clearly in pain. And to the point that you just made about
being in the ring, if you don't bring an ADHD lens to this, then you're not doing that family
(04:19):
justice and you're not doing that person justice because there's a whole subtext that we carry
with this.
Absolutely. And that's the thing. I think when you've got the underlying ADHD, that
is often an underlying thing behind anxiety, depression, and all those things like gambling,
(04:39):
domestic violence, alcoholism. And people never talk about the sex battles that come
with ADHD as well. Even though, like duh, it's going to happen because of like impulse
control, dopamine, like all the, but yeah, it is. And I'm one of those, like I get uncomfortable
(05:01):
to talk about it too, but I think for the sake of our boys in the future, I wonder how
it would have turned out for Dave if people, we did have those compassionate conversations.
Like the world claims to be, we want to be inclusive and help people with disabilities
and neurodiversity. Everyone spurts all this stuff about acceptance, but when it gets like
(05:27):
too big and there's an area for judgment, everyone jumps in the ring and starts bashing
each other. It's like, we're not going to change the culture if we keep doing that.
No, we're not. And I think that the stigma that we carry is part of what we want to get
into. But I also just wanted to qualify for people listening that when you talk about
(05:47):
domestic violence, violent crimes, all of those heavier topics that you're coming from
being in the trenches as a child and family practitioner working with families in those
points of crisis. So you're bringing several decades.
(06:07):
A real community lens.
Yes. And decades of experience as a practitioner, when you speak of those things, this is not
just another person who's got ADHD mouthing off on online. We're actually bringing knowledge
and perspective as well as our own lived experience to these conversations. And I think it's important
(06:27):
and it's important to make that distinction because we don't wish to be part of the problem
of this conversation. Everything that we do in this work that we're doing is about changing
this narrative around what it means to live with ADHD so that we don't always see the
negative outcomes or the negative behaviors. We're actually looking at these outcomes with
(06:51):
compassion, but also a preemptive sort of a lens or a sort of an ability to contextualize
why things play out the way that they do.
Yeah. Like cause and effect, I think. And it's not, and I really don't want people to think
that we support people cheating on each other and everything we don't. And there's lots
(07:13):
of behaviors that just, you know, I work with people that have gone through domestic violence.
I don't support domestic violence, but it is just a factual conversation around the
hardships that lead up to these points. And it's just not that simple. It's not always
that so we don't know Dave, but we do know the ADHD lens and it's not always just so
(07:39):
straightforward and simple. And I think, and I know I want my son, he's only like, Karen
hasn't touched him yet, but I don't want her to, but I'm hoping that because we have these
big conversations, if we can get it out there, that it's going to look different for people
(08:00):
when we turn it around a bit.
Absolutely. And look, it's an interesting point that you've just made. There's a lot
in there and I can't respond to all the points. No, no, it's okay. It's just that every point
that you make though, I'm like, I need to comment on that, need to comment on that.
My brain's just wanting to do all the things all the time. But there's an important point
(08:23):
that you made there of we don't know Dave and we don't, we both value his brilliance
and right. And if Dave wants to come and have a chat, our door is open without judgment
and with the perspective of, you know, you're our people. So there's a supportive ear here.
(08:45):
But the point that I wanted to make was that people don't know Dave, but they think they
do. And this is what happens when people have such a public profile is that you do end up
knowing more about these people. And with that comes this sort of responsibility that
people in the public eye talk about. But then there's also a sense of people feeling an
(09:06):
ownership and with that comes a bias. And then when people do something that falls outside
of those fans value systems or belief in who this person was, that's part of where the
takedowns coming from. And it's like, but with the ADHD lens, what we see on the outside
(09:27):
is what we want people to see. Yeah. And like, I think we have the capacity to look at how
well he has done with ADHD. Like that's the first thing I want to acknowledge. I've recently
acknowledged that to my dad too, because when you have the ADHD lens and you look at someone
through that, I said to my dad, well, I've actually got a lot of respect for you now
(09:47):
of how well you have managed your ADHD without the diagnosis and without help for so long.
And I think to get through life and get to the age that they're at without, oh, like
a lot of hiccups and a lot of mistakes in it, but like not significant headliners, that's
(10:09):
saying something. It'd take us 30 minutes to sit here and list all the genius collaborations
and different instruments and that he's all done just because of his big brain and big
feels and how he does process what he does process in his strength is amazing. He's an
amazing guy. And I got so sad when people just, he spent years being, you know, he broke
(10:35):
his leg and he kept going because he didn't want to disappoint fans and he wanted them
to have the night of their life, but God forbid he make a mistake and they're like, oh, well,
I'm not listening to you anymore. Right. And I think that this is where, to your point,
you know, the sort of God-like status that we bestow on people in these public domains
puts a lot of extra pressure on top of them. As you say, just being, you know, everyday
(10:59):
human beings who just happen to do this job that puts them in that domain.
Which is perfect. Like that's realistic, isn't it?
And how, yeah, and how, you know, everyone's got a fucking opinion. And, yeah, I just don't
think it does anything for anyone. And what you're talking about also is as you were speaking
(11:22):
before, I was thinking how, you know, patterns of behavior exist within us and maybe we do
work at some point to intercept those and transition into a different state of being.
But sometimes there are these life events, like in the case of Dave, his mate dying and
(11:43):
his mom dying within two months of each other that can catalyze a shift.
Yeah, it's not an excuse. Nothing's an excuse, but there's explanations that come with the
ADHD and...
Right. And then if you bring the neuroscience into it, then what the brain starts doing
is because you're dealing with grief that takes a lot of cognitive load, you're then
(12:09):
needing dopamine. And look, we don't know when the affair started. We don't know whether
this is consistent behavior throughout his marriage.
Comes out in different ways now.
And it doesn't really matter. And to your point, we're not condoning the behavior, but
there's a lot of big things that have gone on. And, you know, his girl's getting to adulthood
and that's another big life transition that people go through. These things are big transitions
(12:32):
and ADHD brains don't really do transition well.
Yeah, transitions are so hard for me. I really... When we studied that, that one made me cry
because I was like, oh, the processing involved when I had to regroup, especially with grief
and especially I haven't, luckily I haven't lost an anchor person, but I had an anchor
(12:57):
dog even. And to process everything, to start doing life a different way without that emotional
connection even and just a daily routine, like the gaps that it filled in my boredom
and in all of that, like it's, there's just so many layers to ADHD with things.
(13:23):
There's an aspect then, and correct me if I'm wrong, because you're the psychologist,
a disassociative pace that's happening in there perhaps.
Yeah, it's complex with ADHD, I think, like, because there's so many similarities between
trauma and ADHD symptoms. Well, I won't go into that. That's one whole... Yeah. But I
(13:46):
don't know if it's just coming from a parenting kind of aspect to like, I notice that working
with the late diagnosed mums a lot, like ADHD is struggled to see the priority, you know,
to pick something and do it. But when you're parenting, your priority every day is running
the house and the kids. So that's when I've started to notice that I have to get on with
(14:06):
it because you've got to do your day. And whatever comes at me, like whatever trauma
bits or whatever, it's like, oh, I don't have time to deal with that right now. Like I've
just got to actually, I know it's there, so I'm not dissociating from it. But I'm just
chucking it out of focus because it can't be my priority right this second.
But that's an interesting point because the filtering bit we're not naturally good at
(14:30):
because again, the neuroscience behind it is the filtering systems on the fritz because
of the low dopamine and noradrenaline. Then when you're in that heightened state, when
you're in that automatic nervous system response, there's an ability to prioritize the primary
priority, which is interesting. I think that's why ADHD is. Like, you know,
(14:53):
you look at the stats on like where we kind of thrive and stuff and like they say, we
are really good in situations of crisis.
And with the grief piece, it's such a nonlinear journey. And part of what's difficult for
the ADHD brain can be the unpredictability of things. So if you've got this thing that's
(15:19):
coursing in your body that you can't control, that's just like a time bomb that you're
carrying around or like a grenade that you're carrying around with the pin pulled out and
you don't know when it's going to go off.
Sadly, that's all we have time for today. But we have another episode planned where
(15:39):
we further explore the impact of ADHD on Dave Grohl's life and work. Thanks so much for
joining us again. The response to our first episode has been overwhelming in the best
possible way. We're so grateful that so many of you have tuned in to listen to our unique
(16:02):
brand of ADHD. And we hope you continue to show up and enjoy our wild ride. Feel free
to reach out on the socials at BRNWLDADHD. And if you've got particular topics that you'd
like us to run our mouths about, feel free to drop us a line. I'd like to make a special
shout out to my brother Nick from Rockton Road Studios who along with his wife Natalie
(16:29):
and their band Mad Revival gave us their amazing track Rise Above It, which really is the perfect
anthem for what we're trying to do here, which is Rise Above the Noise. The bias that exists
towards ADHD people and really to say that we're stronger together and it really is possible
(16:50):
to rise above the challenges you might be experiencing with ADHD. And that starts with
knowledge closely followed by empathy and connection. So register to join our community
at BRNWLD.com forward slash register. Coming up in future episodes, the kids will take
over and we'll show you what real ADHD is. What's ADHD like for you? ADHD for me is amazing
(17:19):
and I'm always crazy. Half crazy, half smugly. True. Yeah. Yeah. Do you like, are you a bit
like a helicopter in a laundry cupboard? Yeah. Well, I guess all we have to say is we'll
show what real ADHD is and hopefully you like it. We look forward to catching up again soon
(17:41):
until then stay wild.
Welcome to the Bournwild ADHD podcast. I'm Justine and together with my partner in chaos
(00:07):
Lisa we're here to get loud, have a laugh, share some knowledge and keep it real about
living with ADHD.
Welcome to Bournwild where we cover 20 topics in 5 minutes.
And don't say the actual thing that we did a week's worth of floating on said no ADHD
person ever. If you want the outcome on what we talked about, check into the next episode.
(00:29):
Yeah, or just, you know, download the fucking worksheet and we won't do it.
We've moved on with Gord now.
Yeah, we do have visuals if you want to do your own research.
But look, why don't we get on to what we actually plan to talk about. This is gonna be hilarious.
I love this already.
This is so good.
(00:56):
Moving on to the episode that we actually plan to record the first time around but hit
some technical roadblocks.
Was something that we had inadvertently ended up riffing on. And that's because I sent you
a link to the article about Dave Braul fathering a child outside of his marriage. And I just
(01:18):
said, is this something you need to tell me?
I was like, yeah, I wish.
Right? Don't you think that would be the first thing that she'd tell me?
Yeah, you would know.
But you know, we got chatting about it. And I think it sort of evolved over the period
of a few days where we started to feel really sorry for what was going on in the media,
(01:42):
which was not just the media, but the social media Karens were getting involved and just
taking the man down.
Yeah, I was really sad. And I think I was sad because I knew that everyone was going
to eat him alive from that point on and nothing would be the same again. More than anything.
(02:05):
Right. Yeah. I mean, it was first and foremost a shocking piece of information because he'd
had this image of being such a family man and you know, the nicest guy.
And he is like, it doesn't mean he's not. Yeah.
I mean, I think we can get into it because that's part of the masking that we do or the
public persona that we want people to see. But under the hood of that, when you're talking
(02:30):
about an ADHD brain, there's a lot of mechanics going on. And the bit that I think upset both
of us greatly was the media going in on him and then all of the, you know, fucking armchair
pundits ripping into him. And I just want to start by saying, I think all of the Karens
need to get off his dick about it.
(02:52):
Absolutely. And that's the thing. If you're not in the arena, Karen.
Back the fuck up.
Like yeah, totally. That's a lot of Renee Brown. She got attacked once. So I forget
who she quoted it from, but if they're not in the arena, I think it was like Aristotle
or someone flashed that she quoted it from. Yeah. But like, why am I taking comments from
(03:14):
people that haven't given it a go and live their life and face the challenges and use
their balls to go make something of themselves? And yeah, they just sit in their armchairs
and throw stones from their keyboard.
And absolutely. And look, I think the media takes, and I don't hate the media, but I think
(03:35):
that there's a tendency to create clickbait and there's a tendency to drive narratives
that serve the purpose of the organization. And we know that media is supposed to be impartial,
but we all know that it's not. And so there's this sensationalizing of story, but actually
(03:56):
these are people's lives that we're talking about. And there's a beautiful little family
at the heart of it. That was our first reaction was that there's this beautiful little family
at the heart of this that's clearly in pain. And to the point that you just made about
being in the ring, if you don't bring an ADHD lens to this, then you're not doing that family
(04:19):
justice and you're not doing that person justice because there's a whole subtext that we carry
with this.
Absolutely. And that's the thing. I think when you've got the underlying ADHD, that
is often an underlying thing behind anxiety, depression, and all those things like gambling,
(04:39):
domestic violence, alcoholism. And people never talk about the sex battles that come
with ADHD as well. Even though, like duh, it's going to happen because of like impulse
control, dopamine, like all the, but yeah, it is. And I'm one of those, like I get uncomfortable
(05:01):
to talk about it too, but I think for the sake of our boys in the future, I wonder how
it would have turned out for Dave if people, we did have those compassionate conversations.
Like the world claims to be, we want to be inclusive and help people with disabilities
and neurodiversity. Everyone spurts all this stuff about acceptance, but when it gets like
(05:27):
too big and there's an area for judgment, everyone jumps in the ring and starts bashing
each other. It's like, we're not going to change the culture if we keep doing that.
No, we're not. And I think that the stigma that we carry is part of what we want to get
into. But I also just wanted to qualify for people listening that when you talk about
(05:47):
domestic violence, violent crimes, all of those heavier topics that you're coming from
being in the trenches as a child and family practitioner working with families in those
points of crisis. So you're bringing several decades.
(06:07):
A real community lens.
Yes. And decades of experience as a practitioner, when you speak of those things, this is not
just another person who's got ADHD mouthing off on online. We're actually bringing knowledge
and perspective as well as our own lived experience to these conversations. And I think it's important
(06:27):
and it's important to make that distinction because we don't wish to be part of the problem
of this conversation. Everything that we do in this work that we're doing is about changing
this narrative around what it means to live with ADHD so that we don't always see the
negative outcomes or the negative behaviors. We're actually looking at these outcomes with
(06:51):
compassion, but also a preemptive sort of a lens or a sort of an ability to contextualize
why things play out the way that they do.
Yeah. Like cause and effect, I think. And it's not, and I really don't want people to think
that we support people cheating on each other and everything we don't. And there's lots
(07:13):
of behaviors that just, you know, I work with people that have gone through domestic violence.
I don't support domestic violence, but it is just a factual conversation around the
hardships that lead up to these points. And it's just not that simple. It's not always
that so we don't know Dave, but we do know the ADHD lens and it's not always just so
(07:39):
straightforward and simple. And I think, and I know I want my son, he's only like, Karen
hasn't touched him yet, but I don't want her to, but I'm hoping that because we have these
big conversations, if we can get it out there, that it's going to look different for people
(08:00):
when we turn it around a bit.
Absolutely. And look, it's an interesting point that you've just made. There's a lot
in there and I can't respond to all the points. No, no, it's okay. It's just that every point
that you make though, I'm like, I need to comment on that, need to comment on that.
My brain's just wanting to do all the things all the time. But there's an important point
(08:23):
that you made there of we don't know Dave and we don't, we both value his brilliance
and right. And if Dave wants to come and have a chat, our door is open without judgment
and with the perspective of, you know, you're our people. So there's a supportive ear here.
(08:45):
But the point that I wanted to make was that people don't know Dave, but they think they
do. And this is what happens when people have such a public profile is that you do end up
knowing more about these people. And with that comes this sort of responsibility that
people in the public eye talk about. But then there's also a sense of people feeling an
(09:06):
ownership and with that comes a bias. And then when people do something that falls outside
of those fans value systems or belief in who this person was, that's part of where the
takedowns coming from. And it's like, but with the ADHD lens, what we see on the outside
(09:27):
is what we want people to see. Yeah. And like, I think we have the capacity to look at how
well he has done with ADHD. Like that's the first thing I want to acknowledge. I've recently
acknowledged that to my dad too, because when you have the ADHD lens and you look at someone
through that, I said to my dad, well, I've actually got a lot of respect for you now
(09:47):
of how well you have managed your ADHD without the diagnosis and without help for so long.
And I think to get through life and get to the age that they're at without, oh, like
a lot of hiccups and a lot of mistakes in it, but like not significant headliners, that's
(10:09):
saying something. It'd take us 30 minutes to sit here and list all the genius collaborations
and different instruments and that he's all done just because of his big brain and big
feels and how he does process what he does process in his strength is amazing. He's an
amazing guy. And I got so sad when people just, he spent years being, you know, he broke
(10:35):
his leg and he kept going because he didn't want to disappoint fans and he wanted them
to have the night of their life, but God forbid he make a mistake and they're like, oh, well,
I'm not listening to you anymore. Right. And I think that this is where, to your point,
you know, the sort of God-like status that we bestow on people in these public domains
puts a lot of extra pressure on top of them. As you say, just being, you know, everyday
(10:59):
human beings who just happen to do this job that puts them in that domain.
Which is perfect. Like that's realistic, isn't it?
And how, yeah, and how, you know, everyone's got a fucking opinion. And, yeah, I just don't
think it does anything for anyone. And what you're talking about also is as you were speaking
(11:22):
before, I was thinking how, you know, patterns of behavior exist within us and maybe we do
work at some point to intercept those and transition into a different state of being.
But sometimes there are these life events, like in the case of Dave, his mate dying and
(11:43):
his mom dying within two months of each other that can catalyze a shift.
Yeah, it's not an excuse. Nothing's an excuse, but there's explanations that come with the
ADHD and...
Right. And then if you bring the neuroscience into it, then what the brain starts doing
is because you're dealing with grief that takes a lot of cognitive load, you're then
(12:09):
needing dopamine. And look, we don't know when the affair started. We don't know whether
this is consistent behavior throughout his marriage.
Comes out in different ways now.
And it doesn't really matter. And to your point, we're not condoning the behavior, but
there's a lot of big things that have gone on. And, you know, his girl's getting to adulthood
and that's another big life transition that people go through. These things are big transitions
(12:32):
and ADHD brains don't really do transition well.
Yeah, transitions are so hard for me. I really... When we studied that, that one made me cry
because I was like, oh, the processing involved when I had to regroup, especially with grief
and especially I haven't, luckily I haven't lost an anchor person, but I had an anchor
(12:57):
dog even. And to process everything, to start doing life a different way without that emotional
connection even and just a daily routine, like the gaps that it filled in my boredom
and in all of that, like it's, there's just so many layers to ADHD with things.
(13:23):
There's an aspect then, and correct me if I'm wrong, because you're the psychologist,
a disassociative pace that's happening in there perhaps.
Yeah, it's complex with ADHD, I think, like, because there's so many similarities between
trauma and ADHD symptoms. Well, I won't go into that. That's one whole... Yeah. But I
(13:46):
don't know if it's just coming from a parenting kind of aspect to like, I notice that working
with the late diagnosed mums a lot, like ADHD is struggled to see the priority, you know,
to pick something and do it. But when you're parenting, your priority every day is running
the house and the kids. So that's when I've started to notice that I have to get on with
(14:06):
it because you've got to do your day. And whatever comes at me, like whatever trauma
bits or whatever, it's like, oh, I don't have time to deal with that right now. Like I've
just got to actually, I know it's there, so I'm not dissociating from it. But I'm just
chucking it out of focus because it can't be my priority right this second.
But that's an interesting point because the filtering bit we're not naturally good at
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because again, the neuroscience behind it is the filtering systems on the fritz because
of the low dopamine and noradrenaline. Then when you're in that heightened state, when
you're in that automatic nervous system response, there's an ability to prioritize the primary
priority, which is interesting. I think that's why ADHD is. Like, you know,
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you look at the stats on like where we kind of thrive and stuff and like they say, we
are really good in situations of crisis.
And with the grief piece, it's such a nonlinear journey. And part of what's difficult for
the ADHD brain can be the unpredictability of things. So if you've got this thing that's
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coursing in your body that you can't control, that's just like a time bomb that you're
carrying around or like a grenade that you're carrying around with the pin pulled out and
you don't know when it's going to go off.
Sadly, that's all we have time for today. But we have another episode planned where
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we further explore the impact of ADHD on Dave Grohl's life and work. Thanks so much for
joining us again. The response to our first episode has been overwhelming in the best
possible way. We're so grateful that so many of you have tuned in to listen to our unique
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brand of ADHD. And we hope you continue to show up and enjoy our wild ride. Feel free
to reach out on the socials at BRNWLDADHD. And if you've got particular topics that you'd
like us to run our mouths about, feel free to drop us a line. I'd like to make a special
shout out to my brother Nick from Rockton Road Studios who along with his wife Natalie
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and their band Mad Revival gave us their amazing track Rise Above It, which really is the perfect
anthem for what we're trying to do here, which is Rise Above the Noise. The bias that exists
towards ADHD people and really to say that we're stronger together and it really is possible
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to rise above the challenges you might be experiencing with ADHD. And that starts with
knowledge closely followed by empathy and connection. So register to join our community
at BRNWLD.com forward slash register. Coming up in future episodes, the kids will take
over and we'll show you what real ADHD is. What's ADHD like for you? ADHD for me is amazing
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and I'm always crazy. Half crazy, half smugly. True. Yeah. Yeah. Do you like, are you a bit
like a helicopter in a laundry cupboard? Yeah. Well, I guess all we have to say is we'll
show what real ADHD is and hopefully you like it. We look forward to catching up again soon
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until then stay wild.
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