February 21, 2025 • 45 mins
Women behind the bar. Badass, Boujee Bar B!t@hes - Let's go!
We go in on ALL aspects of the restaurant industry, from the front of the house to the back of the house, and this episode is pure fire.
This episode features two badass women who built an insane bar following in the 757. Chef and KC go all in on the mentality of hard work and maintaining a following while finding new business in true BHP style! NOTE: Don't judge a book by its cover, folks. This episode is one everyone should listen too before commenting on the women behind the bar.
We explore the world of bartending where ego meets entertainment, featuring unfiltered stories from seasoned female bartenders who reflect on their journeys through the nightlife and hospitality scene.
This episode def sheds light on the complexities of relationships, evolving bar cultures, and the essential advice for newcomers on maintaining integrity and finding success in the industry. Plus, how to own your sexuality and not get taken advantage of behind the bar. Boundaries are key.
Plus, you will get some killer marketing tips that have never been shared before from one of the area's top bartenders.
• Discussion of the allure of bad bitches in bartending
• Insights into the transition from nightlife to real-world careers
• The art and craft of bartending as a performance
• Personal anecdotes highlighting the chaos and beauty of bar life
• Advice for aspiring bartenders on building a personal brand
• Reflections on the changing dynamics of the industry and customer interactions
• Importance of professionalism and boundaries
• Closing thoughts on the passion that fuels bartenders despite industry challenges
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you know what my fucking problem is?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
What is your fucking problem?
Speaker 1 (00:02):
My problem is this okay, I like bad bitches, that's
my fucking problem.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
That's a fucking problem and I'm surrounded.
I feel like that's kind of agood problem.
I'm surrounded.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Look at this lineup right here I like bad, bad.
I don't think people understandthe lineup we have right now.
I don't think so, because ifhave sitting here, so why don't
you introduce yourselves?
Because that belongs to you, gofor it.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
I'm Megan Olivares.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And you rock what you rock the bars at when are you?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
rocking at.
Right now I'm currently atGranby Theater, so I kind of
transitioned into theprofessional world a little bit.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
So wow, I didn't know that.
Yeah, Topic for discussion.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yep Granby Theater.
We're running a solar companynow.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Okay, right on, so you're switching.
Okay, good, that's good news.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Also still doing the adult thing.
Recently Did get my real estatelicense.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I think you have to clarify that.
What the adult thing?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
is.
I mean that is done too, so Idon't really have to clarify
much of that.
But no, I got my real estatelicense, but I am still
bartending on the side.
I'm currently over at RusticSpoon in Red Mill.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Okay.
Doing the brunch thing you knowgetting out of the nighttime,
so demographics have changedhere.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, it's still deep down inside.
You know the mayhem.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
So when you're doing brunch, right.
So we got to talk about thisGoing from the nightlife.
Now, this is how I know you.
Okay, yeah, okay, yeah let'sstart, I know, your origin story
riding up on my motorcyclemiddle of summer, pulling to a
bar, lying outside, people goingcrazy.
It's uh, it's that type of vibe.
And here here are these two,just fucking maestro and these
dudes like a marionette, likedance puppets, dance right and
(01:39):
um.
So those days were amazing.
So I would come in there and Iwould just be like watching the
dudes.
And of course I'm older now atthis point, right.
So at one point in my life Iwas that guy, I was the victim
of this madness.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
And what did you?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
call it.
Before when you came in, youcalled it something.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Oh God.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Foonery or something.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Debauchery, mayhem, yeah all of it.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
So how many?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
hearts, would you say .
You broke in a matter of amonth On your hottest night.
I'm talking about back in theday.
When was your highlight of yourtime?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Hearts or egos?
Oh, the egos is hers.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
The egos is hers all day.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
All right, let's start with the egos.
That's kind of my thing, thatwas my favorite.
I would just sit back and watch, I would just let it happen.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So wait a minute, now tell me about this.
That's right, I didn't thinkabout that.
Hearts or egos.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
You can crush both.
I never let them think they hada chance.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, it always worked out forme because I would work with
another girl bartender that waslike kind of the flirty one you
know what I mean.
Sweet, but you weren't.
Though.
Like you need a nipple.
I'm confused.
And they love that shit.
They eat it up, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
So the egos would go down first, and then that's when
the heartache came, becauseonce you broke down their
structure of ego, now they havesomething for you.
Now they think you like themright.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
They have a little sentimental spot, that's that
weird thing with men Like youjust are viciously rude and mean
to them and they're like oh,they like shoes.
She loves me.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
And I'm going to let her know my love by giving her
more of my money.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yes, yeah, that's how it works.
Yeah, that's the only way Iunderstand it.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So when was the height of your time?
I'm talking about the height ofyour.
Now you're moving out.
You went to the Granby Theater,which is a little bit.
You tell me more about that ina minute but when was the height
of your?
Just deba?
When were you in your mix?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Definitely the venue days.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Which was 2000.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I don't even know God , you were a venue.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I was a venue for like five years.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, you were there a lot, it was like five years
ago.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah Well how many?
Years have you each beenbartending.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
How old am I?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
On my 21st birthday you threw me behind the bar at
midnight 12 years, 12, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And that was it.
You were hooked.
So 21,.
Get back there.
No, you can't come out, you'restuck.
How did you get up behind thebar?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
So I was a Hooters girl forever, where at I worked
at General Booth for eight yearsand then I was a manager at
Milt Air Highway for four.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You know it's a good discussion when someone says I
was a Hooters girl in the otherback row.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Oh, we're right there .
I was there.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I was way before you I was 2000, 2001, 2002.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I started at General Booth in 2011.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, that was a little bit after my glory days.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
A little bit after, but yeah, I mean, even back then
it was still rocking.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Oh, hooters, then back in the early 2000s you were
pulling $300 to $500 a day.
No questions asked.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
So the job at Hooters , let's talk about that.
Since you're bartenders now,you started there, it's got a
relevance.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I love that company, everything about it.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You're not the only person that tells me that.
She says it, and there's a lotof women that talk to me about
Hooters and how good it was towork there.
And you would think the mainframe of people out there, the
mainstream people, would thinkthe total opposite, right, you
would think it's bullshit,you're selling yourself
da-da-da-da-da.
Not at all, but it's not likethat is it.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
It because, again, I did the calendar two years.
Then I did the swimsuitcompetition in Vegas, and so I
got to travel with the marketingteam and since I was the only
person, or girl, traveling withthem, I got to learn all their
knowledge, pick their brain.
How are we doing this?
What are we doing with themagazines?
How are you using this toleverage for business?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
And this was again.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I was in my early 20s then I mean it was yeah, early
20s, so 20s.
Then I mean it was early 20s,so I mean it was, it was great.
It was the best learningexperience I had in marketing
and also customer service.
Oh yeah, because we learnedmore about customer service in
that, because you had todistract and entertain at the
same time and it was a beautifulbalance which I think led me
into bartending the day I turned21.
And I think it was a good.
That was a really good trainingground.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I'm going to be honest.
It literally taught mehospitality, customer service,
thick skin, yeah, Honestly, youknow it is a little bit
difficult at times.
You know being 19, 20, 21.
And you are judged, and it'snot by the company itself, it's
by the people that come in.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
You know there is a certain stigma that goes around
with it and at the time but whatI always wondered is how they
judge you when they're the oneswho walk through the fucking
door.
It's crazy, I can't believeyour hair working like this I
mean the wings are really good.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Well, not even that.
Like you know, I want thatwaitress because she has bigger
tits.
I want that waitress because,like they would be selective,
almost like you're at a candystore.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So there's some women in there that are like getting
butt hurt over this becausethey're just not, they just
don't have they're not in theselection.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Ego again Like a strip club type thing To an
extent.
Yeah, I mean, it is very much.
You know, pick and choose whatyou want, and at the time I was,
I just shaved my head, I wasjust starting to get tattoos.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
That was not a thing, that was not normal, then you
were the outlier I got in somuch trouble.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It was a good way for me to start feeling myself and
who I am.
They rode along with me.
They were like, look, we get it, but can you stop shaving your
head to the scalp?
That'd be cool.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Back then they could say that they could tell you you
gain too much weight.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
All the time you need to lose weight.
That's not allowed.
Their little photo picture yeah, we hired you like this.
You need to be like this in sixweeks, so now, here's the thing
.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
So now, today, let's back this shit up to today.
If you were to tell someonethey can't be getting away with
that now, can they?
They can't still be doing thatbecause it's not politically
correct.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
You change the classification to model instead
of entertainment.
So that they can control youbecause in news contracts they
can control our haircuts andeverything.
They could control that Becauseyou sign a contract.
They change what your title is.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You're no longer a waitress, bartender or whatever
you are.
You are an exotic.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
There's always a loophole, you're an entertainer?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yes, I didn't even know that.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Well see, now they allow you to have short hair,
they allow you to have tattoosyeah, they're not quite as
strict, the piercings even.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
You weren't allowed to have more than just one stud
earring in you could only wearone ring.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
You couldn't wear anything like that.
Now they don't.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
So they wanted to be like Sports Illustrated Swim
suits.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, I mean, it was essentially when we were there.
I mean everybody showed up,Everybody, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Everybody was 10 out of 10 when they showed up.
There was no.
Oh, I don't feel like doing mymakeup today.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
So first where you started, megan.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
So when you started it was the opposite.
It's like what are we doingabout this?
Yeah, 100.
They were lucky if I brushed myhair before.
You know I'm still done today.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Sorry guys, come out the party into the bar, back to
the party 100, just like most ofus in the kitchen.
So in the relationship betweenthe front of the house and the
back of the house it kind of isthe same, especially back in
them days, because I was before.
Before I had all theresponsibilities I do now as a
chef and an owner.
I was just a chef at one pointtoo, and before that I was a
sous chef, and all the way upand the further back I went, the
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higher up the elevator ofnonsense I would commit the
felonies if I were to get caught.
I would get caught.
Just a night shift, I couldcatch a damn case.
Just at work.
Just the shit we used to do,and I'm sure I still do it now.
Just at work.
Just the shit we used to do,and I'm sure my guys still do it
.
Now.
You know what.
Let's be honest.
You know what I mean.
So when it comes to that typeof stuff, I want to hear some
(09:12):
dirt.
We need some dirt.
We need good stories.
Our listeners want to hear it.
You know what we talk about theprofessional end all the time,
and that's a fun story forpeople who are trying to open a
bar or become a bartender.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
We like to mix in the real part.
Fuck all that man.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I want to hear some nonsense because I got my hat
off.
I'm blowing up, let's go.
Who wants to start?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Give me a good story, I think one of my favorite
villain stories.
Who's?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
the villain you.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
It was a group of us.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
It was a group of us.
Oh mean girls, I like it.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
No, it wasn't all girls, it was just a whole bunch
of group of when we were at theblock.
Okay, we created Bible study onSundays.
You know, everybody goes tochurch on Sundays.
We went to our church onSundays.
Okay, our church was seaside.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Okay, it was our basement.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Seaside raw bar.
Yes, all right.
So for those listening, seasideraw bar is a small place on
Virginia Beach, right onAtlantic Avenue.
It's a hot spot.
It's tiny.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
It's what you would call a dive bar.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
It's a dive bar to the degree of like fathoms.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
That's how far you gotta dive Like back in the day
when they still had themilkshake glasses hanging from
the ceiling and all that we lovethe dive.
We love it by the way they loveit.
I was supposed to go last nightand I fell asleep.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Times I was supposed to go last night and I fell
asleep.
Times have changed.
Times have changed.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
So one of our best friends used to open up on
Sundays 11 am.
He'd be there and we would havebar clean from 9 to 10,
10.30-ish.
Immediately walk over toSeaside.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
And we're playing shot roulette.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Mind you, I worked Sunday nights.
Oh, I worked every Pre-game.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I worked at the edge at 9pm yeah, and that was some
of the best nights to go.
Those nights, oh yeah, that'sthe best time.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I would literally show up.
We'd be, you know, 8 hours ofdrinking in shot.
Roulette did a whole world tourof every bar we could get to all
day everything that you couldthink of to stay awake that long
and continue to drink, and Iwould show up.
This is back before they hadhookah at all the bars.
Yeah, only chemistry had hookah.
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Sandbar had a kitchen and thatwas the only places you can get
food and a hookah.
I'd go steal a hookah fromchemistry, get steak bites at
Sandbar, go lay on top of thebar at the edge, eat my steak
bites, smoke my hookah.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Smashing Adderall and going to work.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, like no, this was at work.
I was physically working at thebar.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Oh you were working and laying?
Yeah, no, I was laying on thebar then I've been on that bar
before.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, absolutely so.
For me it's Madderall.
And if it's the end of theshift and I'm irritated and shit
, which I've stopped doing manyyears ago because of all this.
It's fun while you're doing it,man, but that, Madderall, it
doesn't do me well.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I was not really an Adderall, I was more of a MDMA.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah at work, sure At work.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, of courseSuper casual, it's Super low
key.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Some people get hungry.
They have a snack.
I just you know, papa Molly.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Some people carry, you know, I know some of my
cooks right now they come in.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
They got little granola bars and stuff to get
them through the night.
Yeah, same, you're different.
No, it's the same.
It's the same, it's totally thesame, exactly the same, just
minus the nutrients.
Yeah, absolutely yeah.
Macros.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Got it.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
And then we just you know, absolute mayhem.
But we did that every singleSunday, wow, no matter if it was
30 degrees outside, if it was100 degrees outside, dancing on
the bar.
You remember when Cat used tocome out too.
Oh my God, it used to be awhole mayhem of just hot bitches
, just absolutely drunk as hell,I'd be on the ground watching
the person, yeah, but I'd belifting them up, no, she.
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She normally would be sittingin the corner at one of the
tables.
Don't get me wrong, she's a badbitch, but she is so calm, cool
and collected.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
You're the madam.
You're the madam of thissituation.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
She very much is the puppeteer again.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yes, Metaphorically, that's what we're talking about.
Metaphorically, you're themadam of this situation.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
She's like yeah, get on the bar.
Get on the bar, you won'tKilled it.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You were instigating too.
Oh yeah, stirring the pot.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
So you got the cauldron and you're just like
dance, let's go with it.
But you're having a great timeand that's all that fucking
matters.
And then you go to night that,but you know what?
Though, here's the Vibe is notgoing to be created anywhere
else, but in the fucking place,and that's been removed from the
bar scene and it's not allowedanymore.
Or even if it's not allowed, Ijust don't think the new
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generation and no disrespect tothem, but it's obvious sometimes
they don't get it and theydon't understand that people are
going to a place to be part ofsomething and if you guys are
acting that way, it may bemadness to other people, but
it's not, it's normal to us andwe're so programmed and living
that way that we work so muchand we're so used to being on
this side of the entertainmentscene, the bar or the kitchen or
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whatever it may be, that whenwe're out acting a fool, we can
only do it either on our way towork or on our way home from
work.
And when we are at work, workall you can do is have fun, work
hard, play hard, or else you'reboring.
Yeah, who's?
gonna tip you if you're boring?
Who's gonna?
If you're not partying andfeeling good?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I had this exact conversation with somebody.
I can't remember who I wastalking to, uh, but we were
standing at a bar and I was likethe bartenders these days don't
get me wrong they're goodbartenders.
They're just not the same.
When we're behind the bar,we're're entertaining you, yeah,
and also serving 500 people.
Like we are fun, we're goofingoff, we're throwing things at
each other, we're dancing.
I'm climbing on the bar, I'mjumping over the bar.
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She's trying to fight somebodyon the other side of the bar.
Like there's always something.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Right, and in one way or another, you're engaging
yeah, with each other, withsomething there's action there
was when I told you I washelping a restaurant open
recently here in the area andthey had some bartenders who
were not experienced and theyhad one that was only two weeks
into bartending at a grandopening and one who said she was
okay and it was.
They were not keeping up.
(15:05):
So I forewent all my otherresponsibilities in the
marketing and went behind thebar and I just started working
and I had several separatepeople that night like separate
from each other say I am so gladyou're working, like you have
rent to pay.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
And that was like the biggest compliment I could get.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Cause I wasn't really doing that, I mean I, but I was
, I was, I was laughing, I wasyou know how are you doing I was
touching that, Like it was justa whole interactive thing.
I was trying to get them totalk to each other what we're
supposed to do, and that art ofit seems to have been lost in a
lot of places, and that's what'ssad.
I mean, I think it's sad, Itotally agree.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Well, I think that it's a passion that we have.
So this is a funny scenario.
You both said the same thing,and with Kristen as well, and
myself, I think out of all of ushere I'm doomed with the
long-term commitment.
There's no way out for me,right?
So you're doing your realestate thing, you're doing a
solar thing, you're doing yourown things, trying to, but
that's not because you don'thave a passion anymore.
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That's because age in thechapter of the life, yes, it's
where we are right.
Very much so when you do go backand get behind there, you have
something inside of you thatcomes back and, though most know
, most people would be like, oh,they're just bartenders talking
shit.
What do they know?
They don't do nothing.
The passion and the loyalty andcommitment to what we've done
for so long surpasses any oftheir bullshit judgment.
(16:23):
I'm talking to you.
Whoever's judging I'm talkingto you.
They have no idea what thisindustry means to us.
They don't get it.
What this industry means to us,they don't get it.
And some of us have to get outof it because of we're just
simply getting older.
Times are changing.
We're getting married.
Our spouse may not like thisanymore, or maybe we can't wake
the fuck up anymore like that.
(16:44):
We can't stay up anymore.
We're not interested anymore instaying up until four in the
morning.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Five am.
It's not as fun as going home.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Going back at nine Right again in the morning, yeah
, we worked all these years tobe able to, at one point in time
, buy a house or get a nicecondo and get these nice
blankets.
And now we want to get in themmotherfuckers right, the
blankets.
I'm with the blankets, dude.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You're a blanket.
Hoe You're such a blanket hoeAll.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I'm worried about is buying good blankets, that's all
.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I'm worried about.
So tell me, let me hearsomething really good.
You talked about the ego beforeand that's always classic to me
because I love.
I have an eye for this when Igo out and about.
Now I'm older and stuff I'm notlooking for.
I definitely ain't going to thebar looking for women and
picking up chicks or anythinglike that, especially out of all
the years okay, out of all theyears I'm not looking for the
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ones that work there.
I understand the game to thefullest.
You're not falling for it, it'sno different than when I see
young guys going to a strip club, thinking that they like them.
I think she likes me.
She does.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
You're right, she loves you.
Tiger, give her more money.
She'll like you more, trust meI, she'll like you more, trust
me.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I like going to the bars now, and this is what I
liked about you, because I usedto watch you, man, and I'm like,
look at this girl just diggingher talons into this prey.
I love it.
You know what I mean.
And it's fun, it's entertaining, but because you're doing it,
you're entertaining me, you'reentertaining that sap, you're
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entertaining his friends becauseyou're loving it, and that's
what the hell you do.
And in the meantime, really,what you're doing is you're
paying your rent, like she said,and and and that comes down to
it.
So what was some of yourtactics talk to about?
Firstly, did you ever feel badfor guys that you can see them
really thinking they had achance and you're like damn, I
gotta slow down on this board,or did you just let him eat?
Speaker 4 (18:29):
my thing is, I never let them think they had a chance
.
You know what I mean.
If they thought they had achance, it was their own fault.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Well, that's what I'm saying.
They literally made that up.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
So, yeah, no, I didn't feel bad.
You know what I mean.
I mean sometimes, when theywould give me these gnarly tips,
I'd be like whoa.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Like a lot.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
What's a gnarly tip, grand tip at a happy hour?
You can ask John Lindsay aboutit, that was a real happy hour.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
That was a regular bar, so wait a minute.
My brain just skipped a minute.
You're telling me you're at ahappy hour, you're working happy
hour.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Early in the day so it's not like end of the night.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
But they got me full force because it's not
one-on-one, because my happyhours were busy, but it got me
like full force because it'slike not one-on-one, because my
happy hours were busy, but youknow just me working.
John had just came in for thelater I was working straight
through I would open and thenwork the whole night.
John came in it was like aWednesday too and he was helping
like kind of prep for the nightshift, and that's when the guy
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closes out, and he tried to givemore and I was like, listen, I
don't even know if the cardcompany is going to like I'm
already going to have to makephone calls.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
So what was his goal?
Did he think that this wasgoing to be the key, the gate?
The gate wasn't open.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
He couldn't have, Because I was like people don't
give that out without expectingsomething.
Yeah and that's.
There was nothing.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
After no follow up, just gave you the money he would
come in all the time.
He just came in but he wasn'tlike in a like crazy crazy.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
I mean he definitely would try, but yeah, but you
shut him down.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I gave you 10 grand.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Just let me see the net just let me see the net,
girl, let me see the net.
It's so good to watch.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I'm telling you she thoroughly enjoyed it.
I love it when Megan's in fullforce because she'll give me
like a heads up when we'reworking together.
She's like this guy over hereis an idiot and I'm like, oh yes
, I was like go take him hisnext drink, like over, like walk
out from behind the bar, gogive it to him.
And you just watch her walkover and this guy's literally
drooling by the time she gets tothe table.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
The drink's all shaking and shit.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
who the fuck you think you're talking to?
But I'm not the one and I'mlike.
What did he even say?
I don't know.
He said I was hot.
No amount of money is worth it.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I'm out.
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
So you don't play.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Did you take the 10 grand tip?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
You already know.
So I tried to split it withJohn because he came in and he
was tough.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
John doesn't deserve that.
We love you, John, but no yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
No, he.
I mean, I learned so much fromhim, so it was just and I knew
he was going to have to gothrough hell with the.
You know the company and stufflike that, american Express.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Well, yeah, anything over nine, nine, nine, nine.
Yeah, I mean you're going tohave issues, it was one Jack.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
So that's good.
So hopefully you did somethingreally good or really bad with
the money.
Either way, or nicely bad orsomething.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Yeah, it went toward a really bad decision.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I love that Buy a.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Maserati, especially a brand new one.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Is that the one?
I remember you got that car, sothat was a 10 grand tip A brand
new one.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
It was more than that .
Speaker 1 (21:30):
That tip was a catalyst Tip was a catalyst to
that car 100%.
And you didn't like the deal.
You didn't like to do it.
It was a bad deal.
You didn't like the car.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I mean, I loved the car, but a Prius that was older
than me rear-ended me andtotaled it and yeah, my
insurance.
They didn't have anybodyproficient enough in exotics to
even assess the damages, so itsat in Central Shore's parking
lot for seven months.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
I was like oh, megan's at work, never mind,
never mind.
So you lost the car.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Is that what happened ?
100%.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
So you think that was a little bit of karma for
taking this news money.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Listen, we gave it to him.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I tried to tell him not.
No, that's not fucking carbon.
She didn't deserve that.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
That was nice, I mean yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
What about you?
What is one of your bigger tips?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Singular tips.
In a night Probably 1,500.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
From one guy.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
And that's just because of my eyebrow eyelashes
batting stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Well, this is why we get along so great is because
her I mean, we're so similar inthe way of.
We don't play it up like thatwith guys You're direct With the
money.
Yeah, yeah, we're not going todo.
You know we're out.
Girl, I'm here to work.
Yeah, you guys are vicious.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
They eat that shit up , but I will very much wear
pasties and a thong behind thebar and be like don't touch me.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, You've lost your.
Why in the?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
world.
Would you ever think you couldtalk to me?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, I'm confused, yeah, so I got pasties on, don't
you notice?
Yeah, and they say fuck me, butdon't touch me Very much.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, I wear pasties 24 seven behind the bar talked
about this because we've onlyhad a couple like bartending
episodes on the show, but we tryand represent every aspect of
the industry because it's allpart of it and since we had a
couple couple conversationsabout this of women in general
yes, you're, you're dressing acertain way, you and your hoe
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phase like you look that way fora reason, but you can still
command respect when you'rebehind the bar.
Even that's not an invitation,it it's just us doing the job.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Again, I'm an entertainer.
Try me, I'm entertaining.
You Don't ever get it twistedthat I'm any more than just
entertainment.
That's right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You stand true to that.
I know you for a long time andI've watched both of you.
Like I said, I'm entertained inmy own right by watching you
with a very respectful way,because we become friends after
these.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Absolutely and.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I remember one time, megan.
Here's a story.
Here's a story I remember aboutMegan.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I can tell you one about you too.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
But so I remember one time there was literally a
fight broke out in front of thebar at venue.
The place is packed.
It's small.
I mean there's a couple hundredpeople in this place, right.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Where there, should you know, there's a lot.
There's not that much room, soit's tight, and right in front
of the bar there's a fight.
Right, you would think that thebartender would be trying to
break it up or something.
This bitch right here is takingwads of napkins bar naps and
just throwing it at them likemaking it rain and just creating
more chaos and havoc, and it'salmost like Roadhouse.
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I'm like this chick is fuckingdope, and that's when I first
saw you for the first time.
I'm like who is this?
She's rallying the troops tokeep this shit going and in the
meantime, while the bouncer'sare coming in, she's pouring
shots.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Like 100%.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Again, I'm working, don't bother me, let's go,
that's entertainment, I'm gonnause you in my full advance.
Where are the?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
They don't have them.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
They don't All of them.
It's changed.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
It really has the thing about I actually had this
conversation the other day eventhe block.
Like you know, the block isknown for mayhem.
Yeah, like you, go to the blockto fuck shit up.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, including your soul, your integrity, all of it.
All of it, your morals, all ofit, your morals.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Everything.
It's a different crowd now.
I mean, don't get me wrong,it's still a blast.
I still enjoy going there whenyou walk into the bars.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Here's my next thing on that.
Right there, when you walk intothe bars now, do you find
yourself, like me, where you'relooking around like it's like
the old timers are looking back,like you fuckers, don't know
what's going?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
on oh, 100%.
You don't know what you'redoing, Girl.
What are?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
you doing with back on?
Are you serious?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Listen, I used to rock the fuck out of the
tournament you can.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
It still shows up.
You can wear whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
The turtlenecks are nice on you because you cut them
to him.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
It's just all underboob.
You don't know my life.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
It's amazing to me how the bar scene is changing
Now if we go out, for instance,the crew, us, we all went.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
We were out in Indianapolis right, oh Jesus,
went to a couple places.
Go on, here we go.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
And not to trash the food, part of it all.
But if you look at the barsit's almost like they're upset,
it's busy, they're flusteredthat it's busy.
They're just shaking as fast asthey can, pouring their thing,
doing a little, you know,pouring the martinis, handing it
to you, and they're almost likecome on, what do you need?
There's no personality anymore,there's no excitement, there's
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no barkeep.
I call it the barkeep mentality.
When you would stand there backin the day and the dude would
have his little things up hereand have his hands on listening
to your problems.
That doesn't happen anymore.
Right on listening to yourproblems.
Yeah, that doesn't happenanymore, right, yeah, so are you
afraid of this?
I mean, you're not reallyanymore because you guys are
kind of weaning out of theindustry.
But do you notice what I'msaying?
Speaker 4 (26:42):
It's definitely changed.
I mean it used to be an art,but also they come into it like
when we started it.
Anybody can make a rum and coke, you know what I mean?
Yeah, it to pack a bar like tofill a bar.
I mean we would stick threebartenders behind one bar and
easily two of us could havehandled it.
But you schedule three underthe impression that at least
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every bartender is bringing outat least 30 people minimum per
chef.
Make it as busy as possible.
That's the goal.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
So the goal isn't don't lose your thought, because
I want to say something.
That is the difference rightthere.
You want to have another one soyou can serve more and make
more money.
Nowadays, they want another oneso they can do less and not be
sweating.
Is that where you're going?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
It very much is also like a different mentality, like
back then, if you didn't makeyour promo post by noon, you
didn't have the shift that night.
Now nobody pushes their shifts.
You don't know when anybody'sworking.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
There's very few.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
There is no marketing in yourself.
People would know my schedulethe entire week on Monday they
would beat me to shift.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
I'd be like, sorry I'm late, I know Megan's coming.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
She's going to be there in 20 minutes.
It's funny.
One thing I remember about youat the block and this changed my
mentality from Hooters to blockmentality you had a burner
phone that you would only turnon on the weekends.
Text all your regulars, thatwas the number they had.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Night of the week save next to their name.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
They would literally.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
You were off on Wednesdays, so you'd black out
on Tuesday nights with me.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
And she only turned it on when she was at work.
You didn't have her real phonenumber, so you had to burn it.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
You had to earn it and burn it.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
That's when I was like oh, that's brilliant,
that's brilliant.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
I text all of my people that say Tuesday, Tuesday
night, Tuesday morning orMonday.
Oh my God, that is so smart.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Let's back this conversation up.
Give a little tip out there.
Give this tip.
Tell these upcoming bartenderswho don't understand what the
fuck's going on.
Tell them what to do here,because this is classic and
maybe you can pass thisknowledge on OG.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
That was very much like the moment.
I was like, oh, this shit'sdifferent 100%.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
So tell me how this works.
So you have the phone, you havethe burner.
Okay, and tell me again howthis works.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I would get people to come out.
I would promote through socialmedia all this, all that.
I would meet people and I wouldget their information.
I would save their name next toTuesday or whatever.
Whatever shift it was.
And then I would know, Mondaynight I'd go through all my
Tuesday names like hey, how areyou doing?
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
And blast them.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So they would text you back or something, some
dudes and stuff, but youwouldn't care because it's on
the burner.
You just say show up.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
There was no communication.
You weren't giving themanything else other than here's
the bait.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Remember me, you should come see me tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
So this is a tool.
You're using a burner phone asa complete marketing tool.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
I never had a dead shift ever and I never gave them
the wrong impression Like, yeah, of course we knew what a lot
of them were out for you knowwhat I?
Mean, but none of them ever gotit.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So it was like you know, that's what kept them
coming.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
That's brilliant Santa Claus is coming next week
too, y'all.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
So I mean we all think you know what I mean, it's
possible.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So there's a chance it could happen.
It could happen.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
This is the year, it's okay.
This is the belief in that isthe same belief they may have in
a chance with you.
So as long as you keep feedingthat, they're going to keep
biting it.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
And that's a great tip.
I would never like haveconsistent conversations.
It would just You're microdosing your client.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
That's exactly what she's doing.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Mushroom coffee, just a little yeah.
Just a little sizzle A littlebit Keep yeah, just a little
sizzle A little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Keep them in your life was a sizzle reel.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I like it.
So all you people out therelistening to this, we like to
have a takeaway from everythingthere's one.
There's one.
You've learned something todayby the burnt hands perspective
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah 100%.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Did you have any tricks up your sleeve that you
used to do?
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Most of mine was just really just being super extra
behind the bar, Like once yougot to the bar you weren't
leaving the bar if I was there.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Because I'm going to do whatever it takes.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
I'm twerking behind the bar.
I'm dancing on the bar.
I'm pouring shots in your mouth.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
She is too, though.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I don't like I am.
I'm going to make sure thatyou're going to go somewhere
else, but then you're going tobe pissed off and come back
Because you.
I don't know why I came overhere.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
This is stupid yeah that's why we were such a gnarly
team.
Yeah, because I would draw themin and then Shelby would just
keep them fucking my OPD ass.
I'm cleaning and shit.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah, she literally cleans all game like I'm a
psycho at this point, when we'reworking together, we're
considered, oh geez.
At the point where we know yourrole so we really Got away with
murder for real?
Yeah, and that's literally whathappened.
There would be nights where IMight not pour more than about
10 drinks.
To be honest with you, I'mpouring 600 on me.
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She's cleaning and we'regetting hundreds.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Stack them and you slap them.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
She'd literally be like we used to have a couple
regulars Go get so-and-so to buy1942 tonight.
I right bet I got him tonight,whatever.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
See, she'll go get on the floor and, like you know
coming from, you know we bothwaitress and stuff like that
before, so we're used to allthat.
But when it gets slammed I'mtoo violent to be on the floor.
Yeah, she's not loud.
You flirt with that lower backarea I hey girl, yeah, 100%, hey
hun.
She looks over somebody's inthe walls of Jericho.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
How many huns it's bad.
How many huns are you?
How are you?
What word am I trying to say?
Speaker 4 (32:03):
I'm a love and a babe .
Speaker 1 (32:04):
You're a love and a babe, so how many huns do you
have out in the world?
According to them, A million7,000.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Hey hun, hey hun.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
That's crazy so here's a story about you now.
I told you my littleremembrance of her.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Hers is good too.
No, hers is good.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
So it's right along the lines of what we're saying.
So I'm gonna tell you how truethe story that they're telling
and they're not bullshittinghere.
Yeah, so the first time I mether, I was up in my little vip
booth that john hooks us up withevery time we go and I had one
of my guys with me that he'salways, you know, he's not
around anymore for reasons can'thang with the dogs, get the
fuck out.
However, he would just kind ofbe one of them guys that would
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just sucking around on leechingtype of thing.
He never contributed such stufflike that.
So she was coming up, coming up, coming up, and we were having
fun conversation, banter backand forth.
You probably don't rememberthis.
This was a while ago.
I was probably drunk, probably.
Yes, matter of fact, you were.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Matter of fact, you were.
Yeah, I know.
Like I said, I was probablydrunk.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
So was I.
It was a good time, anyway,that's where we started.
And then this guy kept comingup.
I'll take a water, I'll take aBud Light, and then he's getting
ready to go.
And then she goes up to him andasks if he wants anything else,
not knowing he's getting readyto go, and he said something.
I don't know what he said toyou, because all I heard was you
say I've came up here a hundredfucking times and now you want
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something, are you?
I'm not here to waste my time,you're wasting my time.
And I said you fucking suck.
That's what I told the dude andI was loved it from that point
on.
I was on it because you'reabsolutely right.
She just looks right at me andsays you're wasting you wasted
my time all fucking night andI'm not wasting my time for you
anymore.
I mean, you know what I mean,and it's fucking amazing.
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So that's the way it's supposedto be really when you're in
that atmosphere.
You know, I wish you would havesaid that an hour before,
because it would have got himout of my hair quicker.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Yeah.
I'm trying to.
I'm trying to give thatmight've been the first time we
met, but I said I know who youwere.
You were at a VIB booth thatJohn gave you, like I know.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I know the situation, yeah, yeah, but it just it also
that brings me to.
You have to have owners whosupport you.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
We've run into those issues in the past of owners
that I had, owners that didn'tsupport me, and it was I mean
it's a brutal.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
It's a brutal time.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
It's a very brutal time because it was someone who
physically assaulted me and thenI kicked the shit out of them
and then they were allowed backin because they had money.
So it was like a bad time.
So when you have owners thatsupport you and also know your
worth because that's veryimportant you can act a certain
way.
So we all get that way, youknow, at some point.
But if you have owners thatback you, then you have the
power to really run the room anddo what you need to do.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Oh, you just land, because they trust your judgment
.
They know that you're not thereto start shit.
They know you're there toactually make your money.
I actually had a situation likethat at Hooters, which is a
corporate environment, that Ipunched a because he the whole
night flirting with me.
Okay, whatever, that's fine.
But then I was like, hey, can Itouch your butt?
I said absolutely not, sir, youdon't have the money for that.
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So I kept moving, whatever.
They're getting ready to leave.
He was like well, can I atleast give you a side hug?
I was like I'll take a side hug, that's fine.
You know the Hooters.
Back I turned around what?
In the middle of the restaurant, my GM at the time I love him
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to death.
My GM at the time saw it on thecamera sitting in the office
and came out and was like whatjust happened?
I was like he touched my butt.
He said okay, cool, kick himout.
I said all right cool.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, see, that's like.
And back I mean cause.
Again I'm going back further,like 10 years prior there wasn't
that, there wasn't like any youknow, I mean again, when I
started at the edge I wasn'tallowed to bartend cause females
weren't allowed behind the bar.
So like it's come a long way.
But yeah, the owners that aresupportive I mean I know you do
that like for your staff andstuff.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yes, I'm very supportive, especially when the
when I hear Sometimes it sucksbecause I don't hear about a lot
of things.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
until it's gone, you don't know the whole story.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
So 90% of the times, especially now, I don't hear
about issues until the person'salready gone or it's already
happened or it's too late now.
You know what I'm saying.
So there's nothing I can reallydo.
But there's been times,especially in downtown Norfolk,
my Grammar Street location whenI was there every night and
Norfolk was a different spotback then.
It was just a lot of transientpeople coming in and out
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drinking.
It was a show down there.
It was like mini New Orleans atsome point in time.
So there was a time where oneof my great bartenders was
disrespected fully and theywrote she was a whore on her tip
spot and all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Nice, Joe Classic.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
So I got pissed off at this and I met the guy
outside, luckily, and I took theslip with him and she was she
was upset about it, and justthis woman here is really hard
to shake.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Yeah, she's like us, she's one of us.
She should be sitting.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
She's a great, great woman and she's a hard worker
and she's still in the industrytoday, yeah, you know.
And and I went outside and Itook the thing and the guy was
drunk and I Handed him the thingand I said what the hell is
this?
You come in my place anddisrespect people like this?
And he snatched it out of myhand and as soon as he snatched
out my hand, he crumbled likethis and threw it back at my
chest and I just open handslapped him across the face and
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he cowered right down and hisfriends literally ran as if
someone shot a gun, yeah.
And so I grabbed the guy and Ibrought him back inside and I
said say something to her rightnow.
I'm sorry.
And then he did the apology.
I will not tolerate it and I'llprobably maybe not so much now,
but back then I'll catch a caseover it.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Yeah, you know, what I mean.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Now, I don't know.
It's not as it's not,especially here in this place,
obviously we do get some rudepeople.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
We get some rude, we get some rude mugs in here.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
It doesn.
But before we wrap up, there'stwo things I want to touch on
with the bar side themisconception, because last time
we had to ask about pet peeves,which was fun, and then money,
so yeah, so there's a couple.
There's my child, so there'stwo things.
So biggest pet peeve of whatsomeone does or says to you
during a shift Mine would haveto be if you snap or clap your
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hands at me, yeah, that's a hugeone.
I love hearing it it'sliterally 100%.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I might not have addressed you completely, but
I've looked at you and we'vemade eye contact.
I know you're there and I knowwhat order you came to the bar.
Do not lean over the bar andsnap at me.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
What do they think that's going to do?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I don't know, they don't even know.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
We need to make a short where someone's doing it
and someone snaps and we justthrow everything down and run
over.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Listen, that's exactly what they expect, that's
okay.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
All right, Megan, what's yours Biggest pet peeve?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Ugh.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Or misconception.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Yeah, man, there's so many.
I think it pisses me off whenpeople see I'm bougie with what
I wear like labels and stufflike that when I drive all that.
So if people think thatanything with having to do with
the money that I have hasanything to do with a man, you
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know what I mean, Like whobought me that?
Or my parents' money, anythinglike that.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
You work your ass off , you work.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Now let's shift to the money.
The only thing you don't do issleep.
Yeah, well, that too the moneypart.
I don't think people understandhow much money there is to be
made in the industry.
What is when you're looking at,compared to other industries
and since you guys are out of itnow how much you made
bartending peak years and whatthat allowed you to do.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
I always like to say this.
So, like Beckett Hooters andI'm saying this is Hooters this
is not high volume bar, this isa restaurant.
I made $1,500 on a night atHooters, like I was able to save
my own money in two years tobuy a house on my own.
Just the freedom that you haveof being able to work four or
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five hours and make two grand.
Yeah, that doesn't happen everynight, but you're going to make
at least, but on the average itkind of does.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
It kind of does.
If you take that yearly average, break it down, you're making
more money than or as much moneyas some wealth.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
You're making $100,000 a year Easy.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Working four or five hours a night, four or five
hours a night, that's it,partying the rest.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Just absolute mayhem the rest of the day Now could
you imagine going back in timeand being able to have the
smarts you do now and then takethe rest of them hours?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
that you weren't there and do it again.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I think about it.
I invested, I bought realestate.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
You know what I mean, yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
I mean I definitely threw yeah, and I mean we'd be
trading the same $100 bill.
We joked about that, it was thesame $100 bill.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
It just went around to your friend.
That was not reciprocated.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
You know, or they would come in and reciprocate
was just keeping it alive.
Now, if you see me out, it'scalculated.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
You're on a mission.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
I'm there for a reason.
I'm there to see somebodyspecific, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
I can tell you one thing With my time, when I was
doing it back in the day, Icould tell you what every print
of Bill smells like.
You know what I mean.
I'd give all that up for havingmore knowledge, but I wouldn't
be able to go be where I am nowwith all that nonsense.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yeah, you need it, yeah, so it's an amazing time.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Having you guys on right now is great because it
brings back nostalgia, but yetyou're still in the business.
But it's good to talk to peoplethat we kind of watch grow and
we work together.
Growing because it shows peopleout there, especially those who
are just watching.
A lot of people are watchingthis typically because of the
nostalgia factor.
People watching this typicallybecause of the nostalgia factor,
people watching this aren'tpeople just getting into the bar
scene now and they're trying toget something out of this.
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We already know that they knoweverything.
They're not going to learnanything from us because they
know all of it.
We already know that.
We're not expecting them to bethe ones watching.
However, if they did, they knowhow to get a burner now.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
That is literally one of the best marketing tips I
have heard about behind the bar.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
I always looked at it like my shift started the night
before.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah, you worked.
I didn't just go in at night.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Hence why you have a Maserati dude.
That's it.
It's no guy.
It's a bunch of guys that youworked for.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (41:49):
No, man gave that like you earned it, but it's not
nice enough to you know, haveanybody else fund you, and
that's your gift.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Yeah, I mean it's good to, yeah, it's good to get
that in there.
But I love it when there arewomen in the industry.
That, again, the first thingwhen someone sees you is a
misconception of you.
Just look like a dumb bimbo.
Yeah, and I can take you for aride.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
And you're like we're coming in, let's do that.
Let's go to the people who maybe watching, who are coming into
this industry.
Do you have any advice for them?
Speaker 3 (42:22):
My big thing is for one, you got to know your basic
recipes.
Obviously Somebody comes in andasks for a liquid marijuana.
You got to make it.
But going back to the, just beentertaining, be fun, enjoy what
you're doing.
You're going to make more moneyenjoying what you're doing and
maybe not knowing how to make aliquid marijuana, than only
making those.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Like you got to bring that back, like you can't just
stand there and make drinks.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
So I tell them.
I say this to my people tooAnybody can get the same bottle
of wine anywhere.
Why the hell, do they want tobuy it here?
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Why are?
Speaker 1 (42:54):
they going to come back and get it here instead of
there?
What about you?
What's your tip?
Speaker 4 (42:58):
I would say, especially for women coming up
do not sleep around.
You know what I mean Beuntouchable, that was my thing.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Unobtainable, always sells.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
Yes, my cocktail waitresses that would train
under me, or other bartenderscoming on girls being like how'd
you get your following?
How do people respect you?
And you know your shifts arealways busy and all these guys
are all over you and all thisstuff.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
You're selling fantasy yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
And I'm like it's because none of them have
touched me.
They can't name anyone who'stouched me.
You know I've been in longrelationships like it's not.
You know girls think they comeinto the industry and to get
popular they just toss it outthere.
Yeah, that's not at all, andI'm over here like Bible open,
legs closed.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Like chill out Hold on hold on Say that again, Say
that again.
Bible open, legs closed.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Bottle open legs closed.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
They just come out here and they're just throwing
it around.
I'm like what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
You said bottle or Bible.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Bible oh.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
I thought you said bottle open.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
I heard the wrong thing, it's okay, it's both
words.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
That's why I was confused.
I'm like wait a minute.
Did I hear that wrong?
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Cause they both work.
What do you hear when they saysomething?
I totally heard bottles, sothat's great.
It does work, though.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
So yeah that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
So this has been awesome.
Thank you guys for your time.
I know it's you where you'regoing and I see it happening.
I'm glad to be sitting herewith you, because we don't sit
with slouches.
We don't do it.
We don't invite slouches on ourshow.
You have to work your way uponto this platform Even though,
as us starting this together,we're still starting with the
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highest standard.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Oh yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Just the tips you just gave were amazing.
You started out with the basicsof recipes, which is amazing,
and you started with the totalopposite of what everybody wants
to believe, and that's don'tsleep around where everyone
thinks.
That's how you have to do it.
Wrong You're listening toprofessionals right here.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Treat it as a business.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
I can tell you they're successful as fuck.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
They are bougie and they deserve it.
I'm bougie, she's bougie, weall deserve it and it's
something we succeed.
Typically, the people in thisindustry who aren't are in it
for a short period of time.
Then they're at the shipyard orthey're working for the city or
they're doing something totallydifferent.
In order to succeed, you haveto sell bouge.
We have to be bougey tounderstand how to sell it.
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Kudos to you, thanks for coming, we drank all of our drinks.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Martini's down Badass bougey bar bitches.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Cheers, bibles open, legs closed.
Never trust them, hoes.
Ciao, for now Ciao.
Do you know what my fucking problem is?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
What is your fucking problem?
Speaker 1 (00:02):
My problem is this okay, I like bad bitches, that's
my fucking problem.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
That's a fucking problem and I'm surrounded.
I feel like that's kind of agood problem.
I'm surrounded.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Look at this lineup right here I like bad, bad.
I don't think people understandthe lineup we have right now.
I don't think so, because ifhave sitting here, so why don't
you introduce yourselves?
Because that belongs to you, gofor it.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
I'm Megan Olivares.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And you rock what you rock the bars at when are you?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
rocking at.
Right now I'm currently atGranby Theater, so I kind of
transitioned into theprofessional world a little bit.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
So wow, I didn't know that.
Yeah, Topic for discussion.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yep Granby Theater.
We're running a solar companynow.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Okay, right on, so you're switching.
Okay, good, that's good news.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Also still doing the adult thing.
Recently Did get my real estatelicense.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I think you have to clarify that.
What the adult thing?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
is.
I mean that is done too, so Idon't really have to clarify
much of that.
But no, I got my real estatelicense, but I am still
bartending on the side.
I'm currently over at RusticSpoon in Red Mill.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Okay.
Doing the brunch thing you knowgetting out of the nighttime,
so demographics have changedhere.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, it's still deep down inside.
You know the mayhem.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
So when you're doing brunch, right.
So we got to talk about thisGoing from the nightlife.
Now, this is how I know you.
Okay, yeah, okay, yeah let'sstart, I know, your origin story
riding up on my motorcyclemiddle of summer, pulling to a
bar, lying outside, people goingcrazy.
It's uh, it's that type of vibe.
And here here are these two,just fucking maestro and these
dudes like a marionette, likedance puppets, dance right and
(01:39):
um.
So those days were amazing.
So I would come in there and Iwould just be like watching the
dudes.
And of course I'm older now atthis point, right.
So at one point in my life Iwas that guy, I was the victim
of this madness.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
And what did you?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
call it.
Before when you came in, youcalled it something.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Oh God.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Foonery or something.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Debauchery, mayhem, yeah all of it.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
So how many?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
hearts, would you say .
You broke in a matter of amonth On your hottest night.
I'm talking about back in theday.
When was your highlight of yourtime?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Hearts or egos?
Oh, the egos is hers.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
The egos is hers all day.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
All right, let's start with the egos.
That's kind of my thing, thatwas my favorite.
I would just sit back and watch, I would just let it happen.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So wait a minute, now tell me about this.
That's right, I didn't thinkabout that.
Hearts or egos.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
You can crush both.
I never let them think they hada chance.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, it always worked out forme because I would work with
another girl bartender that waslike kind of the flirty one you
know what I mean.
Sweet, but you weren't.
Though.
Like you need a nipple.
I'm confused.
And they love that shit.
They eat it up, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
So the egos would go down first, and then that's when
the heartache came, becauseonce you broke down their
structure of ego, now they havesomething for you.
Now they think you like themright.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
They have a little sentimental spot, that's that
weird thing with men Like youjust are viciously rude and mean
to them and they're like oh,they like shoes.
She loves me.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
And I'm going to let her know my love by giving her
more of my money.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yes, yeah, that's how it works.
Yeah, that's the only way Iunderstand it.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So when was the height of your time?
I'm talking about the height ofyour.
Now you're moving out.
You went to the Granby Theater,which is a little bit.
You tell me more about that ina minute but when was the height
of your?
Just deba?
When were you in your mix?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Definitely the venue days.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Which was 2000.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I don't even know God , you were a venue.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I was a venue for like five years.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, you were there a lot, it was like five years
ago.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah Well how many?
Years have you each beenbartending.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
How old am I?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
On my 21st birthday you threw me behind the bar at
midnight 12 years, 12, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And that was it.
You were hooked.
So 21,.
Get back there.
No, you can't come out, you'restuck.
How did you get up behind thebar?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
So I was a Hooters girl forever, where at I worked
at General Booth for eight yearsand then I was a manager at
Milt Air Highway for four.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You know it's a good discussion when someone says I
was a Hooters girl in the otherback row.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Oh, we're right there .
I was there.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I was way before you I was 2000, 2001, 2002.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I started at General Booth in 2011.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, that was a little bit after my glory days.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
A little bit after, but yeah, I mean, even back then
it was still rocking.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Oh, hooters, then back in the early 2000s you were
pulling $300 to $500 a day.
No questions asked.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
So the job at Hooters , let's talk about that.
Since you're bartenders now,you started there, it's got a
relevance.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I love that company, everything about it.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You're not the only person that tells me that.
She says it, and there's a lotof women that talk to me about
Hooters and how good it was towork there.
And you would think the mainframe of people out there, the
mainstream people, would thinkthe total opposite, right, you
would think it's bullshit,you're selling yourself
da-da-da-da-da.
Not at all, but it's not likethat is it.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
It because, again, I did the calendar two years.
Then I did the swimsuitcompetition in Vegas, and so I
got to travel with the marketingteam and since I was the only
person, or girl, traveling withthem, I got to learn all their
knowledge, pick their brain.
How are we doing this?
What are we doing with themagazines?
How are you using this toleverage for business?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
And this was again.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I was in my early 20s then I mean it was yeah, early
20s, so 20s.
Then I mean it was early 20s,so I mean it was, it was great.
It was the best learningexperience I had in marketing
and also customer service.
Oh yeah, because we learnedmore about customer service in
that, because you had todistract and entertain at the
same time and it was a beautifulbalance which I think led me
into bartending the day I turned21.
And I think it was a good.
That was a really good trainingground.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I'm going to be honest.
It literally taught mehospitality, customer service,
thick skin, yeah, Honestly, youknow it is a little bit
difficult at times.
You know being 19, 20, 21.
And you are judged, and it'snot by the company itself, it's
by the people that come in.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
You know there is a certain stigma that goes around
with it and at the time but whatI always wondered is how they
judge you when they're the oneswho walk through the fucking
door.
It's crazy, I can't believeyour hair working like this I
mean the wings are really good.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Well, not even that.
Like you know, I want thatwaitress because she has bigger
tits.
I want that waitress because,like they would be selective,
almost like you're at a candystore.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So there's some women in there that are like getting
butt hurt over this becausethey're just not, they just
don't have they're not in theselection.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Ego again Like a strip club type thing To an
extent.
Yeah, I mean, it is very much.
You know, pick and choose whatyou want, and at the time I was,
I just shaved my head, I wasjust starting to get tattoos.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
That was not a thing, that was not normal, then you
were the outlier I got in somuch trouble.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It was a good way for me to start feeling myself and
who I am.
They rode along with me.
They were like, look, we get it, but can you stop shaving your
head to the scalp?
That'd be cool.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Back then they could say that they could tell you you
gain too much weight.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
All the time you need to lose weight.
That's not allowed.
Their little photo picture yeah, we hired you like this.
You need to be like this in sixweeks, so now, here's the thing
.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
So now, today, let's back this shit up to today.
If you were to tell someonethey can't be getting away with
that now, can they?
They can't still be doing thatbecause it's not politically
correct.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
You change the classification to model instead
of entertainment.
So that they can control youbecause in news contracts they
can control our haircuts andeverything.
They could control that Becauseyou sign a contract.
They change what your title is.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You're no longer a waitress, bartender or whatever
you are.
You are an exotic.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
There's always a loophole, you're an entertainer?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yes, I didn't even know that.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Well see, now they allow you to have short hair,
they allow you to have tattoosyeah, they're not quite as
strict, the piercings even.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
You weren't allowed to have more than just one stud
earring in you could only wearone ring.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
You couldn't wear anything like that.
Now they don't.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
So they wanted to be like Sports Illustrated Swim
suits.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, I mean, it was essentially when we were there.
I mean everybody showed up,Everybody, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Everybody was 10 out of 10 when they showed up.
There was no.
Oh, I don't feel like doing mymakeup today.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
So first where you started, megan.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
So when you started it was the opposite.
It's like what are we doingabout this?
Yeah, 100.
They were lucky if I brushed myhair before.
You know I'm still done today.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Sorry guys, come out the party into the bar, back to
the party 100, just like most ofus in the kitchen.
So in the relationship betweenthe front of the house and the
back of the house it kind of isthe same, especially back in
them days, because I was before.
Before I had all theresponsibilities I do now as a
chef and an owner.
I was just a chef at one pointtoo, and before that I was a
sous chef, and all the way upand the further back I went, the
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higher up the elevator ofnonsense I would commit the
felonies if I were to get caught.
I would get caught.
Just a night shift, I couldcatch a damn case.
Just at work.
Just the shit we used to do,and I'm sure I still do it now.
Just at work.
Just the shit we used to do,and I'm sure my guys still do it
.
Now.
You know what.
Let's be honest.
You know what I mean.
So when it comes to that typeof stuff, I want to hear some
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dirt.
We need some dirt.
We need good stories.
Our listeners want to hear it.
You know what we talk about theprofessional end all the time,
and that's a fun story forpeople who are trying to open a
bar or become a bartender.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
We like to mix in the real part.
Fuck all that man.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I want to hear some nonsense because I got my hat
off.
I'm blowing up, let's go.
Who wants to start?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Give me a good story, I think one of my favorite
villain stories.
Who's?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
the villain you.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
It was a group of us.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
It was a group of us.
Oh mean girls, I like it.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
No, it wasn't all girls, it was just a whole bunch
of group of when we were at theblock.
Okay, we created Bible study onSundays.
You know, everybody goes tochurch on Sundays.
We went to our church onSundays.
Okay, our church was seaside.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Okay, it was our basement.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Seaside raw bar.
Yes, all right.
So for those listening, seasideraw bar is a small place on
Virginia Beach, right onAtlantic Avenue.
It's a hot spot.
It's tiny.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
It's what you would call a dive bar.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
It's a dive bar to the degree of like fathoms.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
That's how far you gotta dive Like back in the day
when they still had themilkshake glasses hanging from
the ceiling and all that we lovethe dive.
We love it by the way they loveit.
I was supposed to go last nightand I fell asleep.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Times I was supposed to go last night and I fell
asleep.
Times have changed.
Times have changed.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
So one of our best friends used to open up on
Sundays 11 am.
He'd be there and we would havebar clean from 9 to 10,
10.30-ish.
Immediately walk over toSeaside.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
And we're playing shot roulette.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Mind you, I worked Sunday nights.
Oh, I worked every Pre-game.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I worked at the edge at 9pm yeah, and that was some
of the best nights to go.
Those nights, oh yeah, that'sthe best time.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I would literally show up.
We'd be, you know, 8 hours ofdrinking in shot.
Roulette did a whole world tourof every bar we could get to all
day everything that you couldthink of to stay awake that long
and continue to drink, and Iwould show up.
This is back before they hadhookah at all the bars.
Yeah, only chemistry had hookah.
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Sandbar had a kitchen and thatwas the only places you can get
food and a hookah.
I'd go steal a hookah fromchemistry, get steak bites at
Sandbar, go lay on top of thebar at the edge, eat my steak
bites, smoke my hookah.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Smashing Adderall and going to work.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, like no, this was at work.
I was physically working at thebar.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Oh you were working and laying?
Yeah, no, I was laying on thebar then I've been on that bar
before.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, absolutely so.
For me it's Madderall.
And if it's the end of theshift and I'm irritated and shit
, which I've stopped doing manyyears ago because of all this.
It's fun while you're doing it,man, but that, Madderall, it
doesn't do me well.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I was not really an Adderall, I was more of a MDMA.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah at work, sure At work.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, of courseSuper casual, it's Super low
key.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Some people get hungry.
They have a snack.
I just you know, papa Molly.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Some people carry, you know, I know some of my
cooks right now they come in.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
They got little granola bars and stuff to get
them through the night.
Yeah, same, you're different.
No, it's the same.
It's the same, it's totally thesame, exactly the same, just
minus the nutrients.
Yeah, absolutely yeah.
Macros.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Got it.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
And then we just you know, absolute mayhem.
But we did that every singleSunday, wow, no matter if it was
30 degrees outside, if it was100 degrees outside, dancing on
the bar.
You remember when Cat used tocome out too.
Oh my God, it used to be awhole mayhem of just hot bitches
, just absolutely drunk as hell,I'd be on the ground watching
the person, yeah, but I'd belifting them up, no, she.
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She normally would be sittingin the corner at one of the
tables.
Don't get me wrong, she's a badbitch, but she is so calm, cool
and collected.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
You're the madam.
You're the madam of thissituation.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
She very much is the puppeteer again.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yes, Metaphorically, that's what we're talking about.
Metaphorically, you're themadam of this situation.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
She's like yeah, get on the bar.
Get on the bar, you won'tKilled it.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You were instigating too.
Oh yeah, stirring the pot.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
So you got the cauldron and you're just like
dance, let's go with it.
But you're having a great timeand that's all that fucking
matters.
And then you go to night that,but you know what?
Though, here's the Vibe is notgoing to be created anywhere
else, but in the fucking place,and that's been removed from the
bar scene and it's not allowedanymore.
Or even if it's not allowed, Ijust don't think the new
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generation and no disrespect tothem, but it's obvious sometimes
they don't get it and theydon't understand that people are
going to a place to be part ofsomething and if you guys are
acting that way, it may bemadness to other people, but
it's not, it's normal to us andwe're so programmed and living
that way that we work so muchand we're so used to being on
this side of the entertainmentscene, the bar or the kitchen or
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whatever it may be, that whenwe're out acting a fool, we can
only do it either on our way towork or on our way home from
work.
And when we are at work, workall you can do is have fun, work
hard, play hard, or else you'reboring.
Yeah, who's?
gonna tip you if you're boring?
Who's gonna?
If you're not partying andfeeling good?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I had this exact conversation with somebody.
I can't remember who I wastalking to, uh, but we were
standing at a bar and I was likethe bartenders these days don't
get me wrong they're goodbartenders.
They're just not the same.
When we're behind the bar,we're're entertaining you, yeah,
and also serving 500 people.
Like we are fun, we're goofingoff, we're throwing things at
each other, we're dancing.
I'm climbing on the bar, I'mjumping over the bar.
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She's trying to fight somebodyon the other side of the bar.
Like there's always something.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Right, and in one way or another, you're engaging
yeah, with each other, withsomething there's action there
was when I told you I washelping a restaurant open
recently here in the area andthey had some bartenders who
were not experienced and theyhad one that was only two weeks
into bartending at a grandopening and one who said she was
okay and it was.
They were not keeping up.
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So I forewent all my otherresponsibilities in the
marketing and went behind thebar and I just started working
and I had several separatepeople that night like separate
from each other say I am so gladyou're working, like you have
rent to pay.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
And that was like the biggest compliment I could get.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Cause I wasn't really doing that, I mean I, but I was
, I was, I was laughing, I wasyou know how are you doing I was
touching that, Like it was justa whole interactive thing.
I was trying to get them totalk to each other what we're
supposed to do, and that art ofit seems to have been lost in a
lot of places, and that's what'ssad.
I mean, I think it's sad, Itotally agree.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Well, I think that it's a passion that we have.
So this is a funny scenario.
You both said the same thing,and with Kristen as well, and
myself, I think out of all of ushere I'm doomed with the
long-term commitment.
There's no way out for me,right?
So you're doing your realestate thing, you're doing a
solar thing, you're doing yourown things, trying to, but
that's not because you don'thave a passion anymore.
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That's because age in thechapter of the life, yes, it's
where we are right.
Very much so when you do go backand get behind there, you have
something inside of you thatcomes back and, though most know
, most people would be like, oh,they're just bartenders talking
shit.
What do they know?
They don't do nothing.
The passion and the loyalty andcommitment to what we've done
for so long surpasses any oftheir bullshit judgment.
(16:23):
I'm talking to you.
Whoever's judging I'm talkingto you.
They have no idea what thisindustry means to us.
They don't get it.
What this industry means to us,they don't get it.
And some of us have to get outof it because of we're just
simply getting older.
Times are changing.
We're getting married.
Our spouse may not like thisanymore, or maybe we can't wake
the fuck up anymore like that.
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We can't stay up anymore.
We're not interested anymore instaying up until four in the
morning.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Five am.
It's not as fun as going home.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Going back at nine Right again in the morning, yeah
, we worked all these years tobe able to, at one point in time
, buy a house or get a nicecondo and get these nice
blankets.
And now we want to get in themmotherfuckers right, the
blankets.
I'm with the blankets, dude.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You're a blanket.
Hoe You're such a blanket hoeAll.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I'm worried about is buying good blankets, that's all
.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I'm worried about.
So tell me, let me hearsomething really good.
You talked about the ego beforeand that's always classic to me
because I love.
I have an eye for this when Igo out and about.
Now I'm older and stuff I'm notlooking for.
I definitely ain't going to thebar looking for women and
picking up chicks or anythinglike that, especially out of all
the years okay, out of all theyears I'm not looking for the
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ones that work there.
I understand the game to thefullest.
You're not falling for it, it'sno different than when I see
young guys going to a strip club, thinking that they like them.
I think she likes me.
She does.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
You're right, she loves you.
Tiger, give her more money.
She'll like you more, trust meI, she'll like you more, trust
me.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I like going to the bars now, and this is what I
liked about you, because I usedto watch you, man, and I'm like,
look at this girl just diggingher talons into this prey.
I love it.
You know what I mean.
And it's fun, it's entertaining, but because you're doing it,
you're entertaining me, you'reentertaining that sap, you're
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entertaining his friends becauseyou're loving it, and that's
what the hell you do.
And in the meantime, really,what you're doing is you're
paying your rent, like she said,and and and that comes down to
it.
So what was some of yourtactics talk to about?
Firstly, did you ever feel badfor guys that you can see them
really thinking they had achance and you're like damn, I
gotta slow down on this board,or did you just let him eat?
Speaker 4 (18:29):
my thing is, I never let them think they had a chance
.
You know what I mean.
If they thought they had achance, it was their own fault.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Well, that's what I'm saying.
They literally made that up.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
So, yeah, no, I didn't feel bad.
You know what I mean.
I mean sometimes, when theywould give me these gnarly tips,
I'd be like whoa.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Like a lot.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
What's a gnarly tip, grand tip at a happy hour?
You can ask John Lindsay aboutit, that was a real happy hour.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
That was a regular bar, so wait a minute.
My brain just skipped a minute.
You're telling me you're at ahappy hour, you're working happy
hour.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Early in the day so it's not like end of the night.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
But they got me full force because it's not
one-on-one, because my happyhours were busy, but it got me
like full force because it'slike not one-on-one, because my
happy hours were busy, but youknow just me working.
John had just came in for thelater I was working straight
through I would open and thenwork the whole night.
John came in it was like aWednesday too and he was helping
like kind of prep for the nightshift, and that's when the guy
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closes out, and he tried to givemore and I was like, listen, I
don't even know if the cardcompany is going to like I'm
already going to have to makephone calls.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
So what was his goal?
Did he think that this wasgoing to be the key, the gate?
The gate wasn't open.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
He couldn't have, Because I was like people don't
give that out without expectingsomething.
Yeah and that's.
There was nothing.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
After no follow up, just gave you the money he would
come in all the time.
He just came in but he wasn'tlike in a like crazy crazy.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
I mean he definitely would try, but yeah, but you
shut him down.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I gave you 10 grand.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Just let me see the net just let me see the net,
girl, let me see the net.
It's so good to watch.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I'm telling you she thoroughly enjoyed it.
I love it when Megan's in fullforce because she'll give me
like a heads up when we'reworking together.
She's like this guy over hereis an idiot and I'm like, oh yes
, I was like go take him hisnext drink, like over, like walk
out from behind the bar, gogive it to him.
And you just watch her walkover and this guy's literally
drooling by the time she gets tothe table.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
The drink's all shaking and shit.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
who the fuck you think you're talking to?
But I'm not the one and I'mlike.
What did he even say?
I don't know.
He said I was hot.
No amount of money is worth it.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I'm out.
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
So you don't play.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Did you take the 10 grand tip?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
You already know.
So I tried to split it withJohn because he came in and he
was tough.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
John doesn't deserve that.
We love you, John, but no yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
No, he.
I mean, I learned so much fromhim, so it was just and I knew
he was going to have to gothrough hell with the.
You know the company and stufflike that, american Express.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Well, yeah, anything over nine, nine, nine, nine.
Yeah, I mean you're going tohave issues, it was one Jack.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
So that's good.
So hopefully you did somethingreally good or really bad with
the money.
Either way, or nicely bad orsomething.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Yeah, it went toward a really bad decision.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I love that Buy a.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Maserati, especially a brand new one.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Is that the one?
I remember you got that car, sothat was a 10 grand tip A brand
new one.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
It was more than that .
Speaker 1 (21:30):
That tip was a catalyst Tip was a catalyst to
that car 100%.
And you didn't like the deal.
You didn't like to do it.
It was a bad deal.
You didn't like the car.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I mean, I loved the car, but a Prius that was older
than me rear-ended me andtotaled it and yeah, my
insurance.
They didn't have anybodyproficient enough in exotics to
even assess the damages, so itsat in Central Shore's parking
lot for seven months.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
I was like oh, megan's at work, never mind,
never mind.
So you lost the car.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Is that what happened ?
100%.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
So you think that was a little bit of karma for
taking this news money.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Listen, we gave it to him.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I tried to tell him not.
No, that's not fucking carbon.
She didn't deserve that.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
That was nice, I mean yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
What about you?
What is one of your bigger tips?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Singular tips.
In a night Probably 1,500.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
From one guy.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
And that's just because of my eyebrow eyelashes
batting stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Well, this is why we get along so great is because
her I mean, we're so similar inthe way of.
We don't play it up like thatwith guys You're direct With the
money.
Yeah, yeah, we're not going todo.
You know we're out.
Girl, I'm here to work.
Yeah, you guys are vicious.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
They eat that shit up , but I will very much wear
pasties and a thong behind thebar and be like don't touch me.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, You've lost your.
Why in the?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
world.
Would you ever think you couldtalk to me?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, I'm confused, yeah, so I got pasties on, don't
you notice?
Yeah, and they say fuck me, butdon't touch me Very much.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, I wear pasties 24 seven behind the bar talked
about this because we've onlyhad a couple like bartending
episodes on the show, but we tryand represent every aspect of
the industry because it's allpart of it and since we had a
couple couple conversationsabout this of women in general
yes, you're, you're dressing acertain way, you and your hoe
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phase like you look that way fora reason, but you can still
command respect when you'rebehind the bar.
Even that's not an invitation,it it's just us doing the job.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Again, I'm an entertainer.
Try me, I'm entertaining.
You Don't ever get it twistedthat I'm any more than just
entertainment.
That's right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You stand true to that.
I know you for a long time andI've watched both of you.
Like I said, I'm entertained inmy own right by watching you
with a very respectful way,because we become friends after
these.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Absolutely and.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I remember one time, megan.
Here's a story.
Here's a story I remember aboutMegan.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I can tell you one about you too.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
But so I remember one time there was literally a
fight broke out in front of thebar at venue.
The place is packed.
It's small.
I mean there's a couple hundredpeople in this place, right.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Where there, should you know, there's a lot.
There's not that much room, soit's tight, and right in front
of the bar there's a fight.
Right, you would think that thebartender would be trying to
break it up or something.
This bitch right here is takingwads of napkins bar naps and
just throwing it at them likemaking it rain and just creating
more chaos and havoc, and it'salmost like Roadhouse.
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I'm like this chick is fuckingdope, and that's when I first
saw you for the first time.
I'm like who is this?
She's rallying the troops tokeep this shit going and in the
meantime, while the bouncer'sare coming in, she's pouring
shots.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Like 100%.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Again, I'm working, don't bother me, let's go,
that's entertainment, I'm gonnause you in my full advance.
Where are the?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
They don't have them.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
They don't All of them.
It's changed.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
It really has the thing about I actually had this
conversation the other day eventhe block.
Like you know, the block isknown for mayhem.
Yeah, like you, go to the blockto fuck shit up.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, including your soul, your integrity, all of it.
All of it, your morals, all ofit, your morals.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Everything.
It's a different crowd now.
I mean, don't get me wrong,it's still a blast.
I still enjoy going there whenyou walk into the bars.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Here's my next thing on that.
Right there, when you walk intothe bars now, do you find
yourself, like me, where you'relooking around like it's like
the old timers are looking back,like you fuckers, don't know
what's going?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
on oh, 100%.
You don't know what you'redoing, Girl.
What are?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
you doing with back on?
Are you serious?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Listen, I used to rock the fuck out of the
tournament you can.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
It still shows up.
You can wear whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
The turtlenecks are nice on you because you cut them
to him.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
It's just all underboob.
You don't know my life.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
It's amazing to me how the bar scene is changing
Now if we go out, for instance,the crew, us, we all went.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
We were out in Indianapolis right, oh Jesus,
went to a couple places.
Go on, here we go.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
And not to trash the food, part of it all.
But if you look at the barsit's almost like they're upset,
it's busy, they're flusteredthat it's busy.
They're just shaking as fast asthey can, pouring their thing,
doing a little, you know,pouring the martinis, handing it
to you, and they're almost likecome on, what do you need?
There's no personality anymore,there's no excitement, there's
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no barkeep.
I call it the barkeep mentality.
When you would stand there backin the day and the dude would
have his little things up hereand have his hands on listening
to your problems.
That doesn't happen anymore.
Right on listening to yourproblems.
Yeah, that doesn't happenanymore, right, yeah, so are you
afraid of this?
I mean, you're not reallyanymore because you guys are
kind of weaning out of theindustry.
But do you notice what I'msaying?
Speaker 4 (26:42):
It's definitely changed.
I mean it used to be an art,but also they come into it like
when we started it.
Anybody can make a rum and coke, you know what I mean?
Yeah, it to pack a bar like tofill a bar.
I mean we would stick threebartenders behind one bar and
easily two of us could havehandled it.
But you schedule three underthe impression that at least
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every bartender is bringing outat least 30 people minimum per
chef.
Make it as busy as possible.
That's the goal.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
So the goal isn't don't lose your thought, because
I want to say something.
That is the difference rightthere.
You want to have another one soyou can serve more and make
more money.
Nowadays, they want another oneso they can do less and not be
sweating.
Is that where you're going?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
It very much is also like a different mentality, like
back then, if you didn't makeyour promo post by noon, you
didn't have the shift that night.
Now nobody pushes their shifts.
You don't know when anybody'sworking.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
There's very few.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
There is no marketing in yourself.
People would know my schedulethe entire week on Monday they
would beat me to shift.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
I'd be like, sorry I'm late, I know Megan's coming.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
She's going to be there in 20 minutes.
It's funny.
One thing I remember about youat the block and this changed my
mentality from Hooters to blockmentality you had a burner
phone that you would only turnon on the weekends.
Text all your regulars, thatwas the number they had.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Night of the week save next to their name.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
They would literally.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
You were off on Wednesdays, so you'd black out
on Tuesday nights with me.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
And she only turned it on when she was at work.
You didn't have her real phonenumber, so you had to burn it.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
You had to earn it and burn it.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
That's when I was like oh, that's brilliant,
that's brilliant.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
I text all of my people that say Tuesday, Tuesday
night, Tuesday morning orMonday.
Oh my God, that is so smart.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Let's back this conversation up.
Give a little tip out there.
Give this tip.
Tell these upcoming bartenderswho don't understand what the
fuck's going on.
Tell them what to do here,because this is classic and
maybe you can pass thisknowledge on OG.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
That was very much like the moment.
I was like, oh, this shit'sdifferent 100%.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
So tell me how this works.
So you have the phone, you havethe burner.
Okay, and tell me again howthis works.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I would get people to come out.
I would promote through socialmedia all this, all that.
I would meet people and I wouldget their information.
I would save their name next toTuesday or whatever.
Whatever shift it was.
And then I would know, Mondaynight I'd go through all my
Tuesday names like hey, how areyou doing?
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
And blast them.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So they would text you back or something, some
dudes and stuff, but youwouldn't care because it's on
the burner.
You just say show up.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
There was no communication.
You weren't giving themanything else other than here's
the bait.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Remember me, you should come see me tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
So this is a tool.
You're using a burner phone asa complete marketing tool.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
I never had a dead shift ever and I never gave them
the wrong impression Like, yeah, of course we knew what a lot
of them were out for you knowwhat I?
Mean, but none of them ever gotit.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So it was like you know, that's what kept them
coming.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
That's brilliant Santa Claus is coming next week
too, y'all.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
So I mean we all think you know what I mean, it's
possible.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So there's a chance it could happen.
It could happen.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
This is the year, it's okay.
This is the belief in that isthe same belief they may have in
a chance with you.
So as long as you keep feedingthat, they're going to keep
biting it.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
And that's a great tip.
I would never like haveconsistent conversations.
It would just You're microdosing your client.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
That's exactly what she's doing.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Mushroom coffee, just a little yeah.
Just a little sizzle A littlebit Keep yeah, just a little
sizzle A little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Keep them in your life was a sizzle reel.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I like it.
So all you people out therelistening to this, we like to
have a takeaway from everythingthere's one.
There's one.
You've learned something todayby the burnt hands perspective
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah 100%.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Did you have any tricks up your sleeve that you
used to do?
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Most of mine was just really just being super extra
behind the bar, Like once yougot to the bar you weren't
leaving the bar if I was there.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Because I'm going to do whatever it takes.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
I'm twerking behind the bar.
I'm dancing on the bar.
I'm pouring shots in your mouth.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
She is too, though.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I don't like I am.
I'm going to make sure thatyou're going to go somewhere
else, but then you're going tobe pissed off and come back
Because you.
I don't know why I came overhere.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
This is stupid yeah that's why we were such a gnarly
team.
Yeah, because I would draw themin and then Shelby would just
keep them fucking my OPD ass.
I'm cleaning and shit.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah, she literally cleans all game like I'm a
psycho at this point, when we'reworking together, we're
considered, oh geez.
At the point where we know yourrole so we really Got away with
murder for real?
Yeah, and that's literally whathappened.
There would be nights where IMight not pour more than about
10 drinks.
To be honest with you, I'mpouring 600 on me.
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She's cleaning and we'regetting hundreds.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Stack them and you slap them.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
She'd literally be like we used to have a couple
regulars Go get so-and-so to buy1942 tonight.
I right bet I got him tonight,whatever.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
See, she'll go get on the floor and, like you know
coming from, you know we bothwaitress and stuff like that
before, so we're used to allthat.
But when it gets slammed I'mtoo violent to be on the floor.
Yeah, she's not loud.
You flirt with that lower backarea I hey girl, yeah, 100%, hey
hun.
She looks over somebody's inthe walls of Jericho.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
How many huns it's bad.
How many huns are you?
How are you?
What word am I trying to say?
Speaker 4 (32:03):
I'm a love and a babe .
Speaker 1 (32:04):
You're a love and a babe, so how many huns do you
have out in the world?
According to them, A million7,000.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Hey hun, hey hun.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
That's crazy so here's a story about you now.
I told you my littleremembrance of her.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Hers is good too.
No, hers is good.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
So it's right along the lines of what we're saying.
So I'm gonna tell you how truethe story that they're telling
and they're not bullshittinghere.
Yeah, so the first time I mether, I was up in my little vip
booth that john hooks us up withevery time we go and I had one
of my guys with me that he'salways, you know, he's not
around anymore for reasons can'thang with the dogs, get the
fuck out.
However, he would just kind ofbe one of them guys that would
(32:39):
just sucking around on leechingtype of thing.
He never contributed such stufflike that.
So she was coming up, coming up, coming up, and we were having
fun conversation, banter backand forth.
You probably don't rememberthis.
This was a while ago.
I was probably drunk, probably.
Yes, matter of fact, you were.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Matter of fact, you were.
Yeah, I know.
Like I said, I was probablydrunk.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
So was I.
It was a good time, anyway,that's where we started.
And then this guy kept comingup.
I'll take a water, I'll take aBud Light, and then he's getting
ready to go.
And then she goes up to him andasks if he wants anything else,
not knowing he's getting readyto go, and he said something.
I don't know what he said toyou, because all I heard was you
say I've came up here a hundredfucking times and now you want
(33:19):
something, are you?
I'm not here to waste my time,you're wasting my time.
And I said you fucking suck.
That's what I told the dude andI was loved it from that point
on.
I was on it because you'reabsolutely right.
She just looks right at me andsays you're wasting you wasted
my time all fucking night andI'm not wasting my time for you
anymore.
I mean, you know what I mean,and it's fucking amazing.
(33:40):
So that's the way it's supposedto be really when you're in
that atmosphere.
You know, I wish you would havesaid that an hour before,
because it would have got himout of my hair quicker.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Yeah.
I'm trying to.
I'm trying to give thatmight've been the first time we
met, but I said I know who youwere.
You were at a VIB booth thatJohn gave you, like I know.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I know the situation, yeah, yeah, but it just it also
that brings me to.
You have to have owners whosupport you.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
We've run into those issues in the past of owners
that I had, owners that didn'tsupport me, and it was I mean
it's a brutal.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
It's a brutal time.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
It's a very brutal time because it was someone who
physically assaulted me and thenI kicked the shit out of them
and then they were allowed backin because they had money.
So it was like a bad time.
So when you have owners thatsupport you and also know your
worth because that's veryimportant you can act a certain
way.
So we all get that way, youknow, at some point.
But if you have owners thatback you, then you have the
power to really run the room anddo what you need to do.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Oh, you just land, because they trust your judgment
.
They know that you're not thereto start shit.
They know you're there toactually make your money.
I actually had a situation likethat at Hooters, which is a
corporate environment, that Ipunched a because he the whole
night flirting with me.
Okay, whatever, that's fine.
But then I was like, hey, can Itouch your butt?
I said absolutely not, sir, youdon't have the money for that.
(35:01):
So I kept moving, whatever.
They're getting ready to leave.
He was like well, can I atleast give you a side hug?
I was like I'll take a side hug, that's fine.
You know the Hooters.
Back I turned around what?
In the middle of the restaurant, my GM at the time I love him
(35:22):
to death.
My GM at the time saw it on thecamera sitting in the office
and came out and was like whatjust happened?
I was like he touched my butt.
He said okay, cool, kick himout.
I said all right cool.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, see, that's like.
And back I mean cause.
Again I'm going back further,like 10 years prior there wasn't
that, there wasn't like any youknow, I mean again, when I
started at the edge I wasn'tallowed to bartend cause females
weren't allowed behind the bar.
So like it's come a long way.
But yeah, the owners that aresupportive I mean I know you do
that like for your staff andstuff.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yes, I'm very supportive, especially when the
when I hear Sometimes it sucksbecause I don't hear about a lot
of things.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
until it's gone, you don't know the whole story.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
So 90% of the times, especially now, I don't hear
about issues until the person'salready gone or it's already
happened or it's too late now.
You know what I'm saying.
So there's nothing I can reallydo.
But there's been times,especially in downtown Norfolk,
my Grammar Street location whenI was there every night and
Norfolk was a different spotback then.
It was just a lot of transientpeople coming in and out
(36:17):
drinking.
It was a show down there.
It was like mini New Orleans atsome point in time.
So there was a time where oneof my great bartenders was
disrespected fully and theywrote she was a whore on her tip
spot and all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Nice, Joe Classic.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
So I got pissed off at this and I met the guy
outside, luckily, and I took theslip with him and she was she
was upset about it, and justthis woman here is really hard
to shake.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Yeah, she's like us, she's one of us.
She should be sitting.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
She's a great, great woman and she's a hard worker
and she's still in the industrytoday, yeah, you know.
And and I went outside and Itook the thing and the guy was
drunk and I Handed him the thingand I said what the hell is
this?
You come in my place anddisrespect people like this?
And he snatched it out of myhand and as soon as he snatched
out my hand, he crumbled likethis and threw it back at my
chest and I just open handslapped him across the face and
(37:06):
he cowered right down and hisfriends literally ran as if
someone shot a gun, yeah.
And so I grabbed the guy and Ibrought him back inside and I
said say something to her rightnow.
I'm sorry.
And then he did the apology.
I will not tolerate it and I'llprobably maybe not so much now,
but back then I'll catch a caseover it.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Yeah, you know, what I mean.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Now, I don't know.
It's not as it's not,especially here in this place,
obviously we do get some rudepeople.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
We get some rude, we get some rude mugs in here.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
It doesn.
But before we wrap up, there'stwo things I want to touch on
with the bar side themisconception, because last time
we had to ask about pet peeves,which was fun, and then money,
so yeah, so there's a couple.
There's my child, so there'stwo things.
So biggest pet peeve of whatsomeone does or says to you
during a shift Mine would haveto be if you snap or clap your
(37:54):
hands at me, yeah, that's a hugeone.
I love hearing it it'sliterally 100%.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I might not have addressed you completely, but
I've looked at you and we'vemade eye contact.
I know you're there and I knowwhat order you came to the bar.
Do not lean over the bar andsnap at me.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
What do they think that's going to do?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I don't know, they don't even know.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
We need to make a short where someone's doing it
and someone snaps and we justthrow everything down and run
over.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Listen, that's exactly what they expect, that's
okay.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
All right, Megan, what's yours Biggest pet peeve?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Ugh.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Or misconception.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Yeah, man, there's so many.
I think it pisses me off whenpeople see I'm bougie with what
I wear like labels and stufflike that when I drive all that.
So if people think thatanything with having to do with
the money that I have hasanything to do with a man, you
(38:50):
know what I mean, Like whobought me that?
Or my parents' money, anythinglike that.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
You work your ass off , you work.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Now let's shift to the money.
The only thing you don't do issleep.
Yeah, well, that too the moneypart.
I don't think people understandhow much money there is to be
made in the industry.
What is when you're looking at,compared to other industries
and since you guys are out of itnow how much you made
bartending peak years and whatthat allowed you to do.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
I always like to say this.
So, like Beckett Hooters andI'm saying this is Hooters this
is not high volume bar, this isa restaurant.
I made $1,500 on a night atHooters, like I was able to save
my own money in two years tobuy a house on my own.
Just the freedom that you haveof being able to work four or
(39:43):
five hours and make two grand.
Yeah, that doesn't happen everynight, but you're going to make
at least, but on the average itkind of does.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
It kind of does.
If you take that yearly average, break it down, you're making
more money than or as much moneyas some wealth.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
You're making $100,000 a year Easy.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Working four or five hours a night, four or five
hours a night, that's it,partying the rest.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Just absolute mayhem the rest of the day Now could
you imagine going back in timeand being able to have the
smarts you do now and then takethe rest of them hours?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
that you weren't there and do it again.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I think about it.
I invested, I bought realestate.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
You know what I mean, yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
I mean I definitely threw yeah, and I mean we'd be
trading the same $100 bill.
We joked about that, it was thesame $100 bill.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
It just went around to your friend.
That was not reciprocated.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
You know, or they would come in and reciprocate
was just keeping it alive.
Now, if you see me out, it'scalculated.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
You're on a mission.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
I'm there for a reason.
I'm there to see somebodyspecific, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
I can tell you one thing With my time, when I was
doing it back in the day, Icould tell you what every print
of Bill smells like.
You know what I mean.
I'd give all that up for havingmore knowledge, but I wouldn't
be able to go be where I am nowwith all that nonsense.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yeah, you need it, yeah, so it's an amazing time.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Having you guys on right now is great because it
brings back nostalgia, but yetyou're still in the business.
But it's good to talk to peoplethat we kind of watch grow and
we work together.
Growing because it shows peopleout there, especially those who
are just watching.
A lot of people are watchingthis typically because of the
nostalgia factor.
People watching this typicallybecause of the nostalgia factor,
people watching this aren'tpeople just getting into the bar
scene now and they're trying toget something out of this.
(41:20):
We already know that they knoweverything.
They're not going to learnanything from us because they
know all of it.
We already know that.
We're not expecting them to bethe ones watching.
However, if they did, they knowhow to get a burner now.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
That is literally one of the best marketing tips I
have heard about behind the bar.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
I always looked at it like my shift started the night
before.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah, you worked.
I didn't just go in at night.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Hence why you have a Maserati dude.
That's it.
It's no guy.
It's a bunch of guys that youworked for.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (41:49):
No, man gave that like you earned it, but it's not
nice enough to you know, haveanybody else fund you, and
that's your gift.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Yeah, I mean it's good to, yeah, it's good to get
that in there.
But I love it when there arewomen in the industry.
That, again, the first thingwhen someone sees you is a
misconception of you.
Just look like a dumb bimbo.
Yeah, and I can take you for aride.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
And you're like we're coming in, let's do that.
Let's go to the people who maybe watching, who are coming into
this industry.
Do you have any advice for them?
Speaker 3 (42:22):
My big thing is for one, you got to know your basic
recipes.
Obviously Somebody comes in andasks for a liquid marijuana.
You got to make it.
But going back to the, just beentertaining, be fun, enjoy what
you're doing.
You're going to make more moneyenjoying what you're doing and
maybe not knowing how to make aliquid marijuana, than only
making those.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Like you got to bring that back, like you can't just
stand there and make drinks.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
So I tell them.
I say this to my people tooAnybody can get the same bottle
of wine anywhere.
Why the hell, do they want tobuy it here?
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Why are?
Speaker 1 (42:54):
they going to come back and get it here instead of
there?
What about you?
What's your tip?
Speaker 4 (42:58):
I would say, especially for women coming up
do not sleep around.
You know what I mean Beuntouchable, that was my thing.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Unobtainable, always sells.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
Yes, my cocktail waitresses that would train
under me, or other bartenderscoming on girls being like how'd
you get your following?
How do people respect you?
And you know your shifts arealways busy and all these guys
are all over you and all thisstuff.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
You're selling fantasy yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
And I'm like it's because none of them have
touched me.
They can't name anyone who'stouched me.
You know I've been in longrelationships like it's not.
You know girls think they comeinto the industry and to get
popular they just toss it outthere.
Yeah, that's not at all, andI'm over here like Bible open,
legs closed.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Like chill out Hold on hold on Say that again, Say
that again.
Bible open, legs closed.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Bottle open legs closed.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
They just come out here and they're just throwing
it around.
I'm like what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
You said bottle or Bible.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Bible oh.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
I thought you said bottle open.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
I heard the wrong thing, it's okay, it's both
words.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
That's why I was confused.
I'm like wait a minute.
Did I hear that wrong?
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Cause they both work.
What do you hear when they saysomething?
I totally heard bottles, sothat's great.
It does work, though.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
So yeah that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
So this has been awesome.
Thank you guys for your time.
I know it's you where you'regoing and I see it happening.
I'm glad to be sitting herewith you, because we don't sit
with slouches.
We don't do it.
We don't invite slouches on ourshow.
You have to work your way uponto this platform Even though,
as us starting this together,we're still starting with the
(44:28):
highest standard.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Oh yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Just the tips you just gave were amazing.
You started out with the basicsof recipes, which is amazing,
and you started with the totalopposite of what everybody wants
to believe, and that's don'tsleep around where everyone
thinks.
That's how you have to do it.
Wrong You're listening toprofessionals right here.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Treat it as a business.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
I can tell you they're successful as fuck.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
They are bougie and they deserve it.
I'm bougie, she's bougie, weall deserve it and it's
something we succeed.
Typically, the people in thisindustry who aren't are in it
for a short period of time.
Then they're at the shipyard orthey're working for the city or
they're doing something totallydifferent.
In order to succeed, you haveto sell bouge.
We have to be bougey tounderstand how to sell it.
(45:08):
Kudos to you, thanks for coming, we drank all of our drinks.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Martini's down Badass bougey bar bitches.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Cheers, bibles open, legs closed.
Never trust them, hoes.
Ciao, for now Ciao.
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