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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Like, I need them to know that I tried really.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
That. Yeah, we're thrilled to have you here. As you
can see, the show is called Cancel Your Plans. Yeah,
and you seem to be a pretty busy person, so
I was curious about what your relationship to canceling plans is.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
A toxic one?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, okay, canceling is Oh my god, I could talk
about this for a long time.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Canceling good. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I think it was just a period of time in
my life where I felt the people around me cancel
was bad. So now if I want to be my
true self and want to do something during a day,
and I think, let me go, here we go. I
had too many friends early in my twenties, sure that
(00:57):
were selfish and wouldn't let me live my own life.
So if I wanted to actually cancel for a reason
because I needed to do something else, yes, it was
never respected. So that's created a funny relationship I have
with canceling where I always think someone's going to be
so upset with me. Okay, but the older I get
and one's like, yeah, that's fine on schedule?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, how would they was there a specific way that
they would like guilt trip you when you came. I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It was like I think, I think I do have
a little bit of a flakiness, So you do cancel?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I don't know, or do you say yes too many things?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
That's it? Yeah, I suffer from that a little too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
No, my problem is I'll never open my cow while
we're talking about plans and just go.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
That's not gonna work, right. I always go, yes, let's
figure it out because you want. You in that moment,
you authentically do want to try to figure it out.
But in reality, deep down, maybe subconsciously, you know, oh,
I'm booked that I'm booked till the new year.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And I'm like, I'll just tell them later. Yeah, it's
better to just be like, doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
It's true. What about Tuesday? It's true. We've learned now
on this pod too, that like the maybe of it
all is really just kicking yourself, because it's kicking yourself
and the other person because it's like you then have
to backtrack so much. It's like better like, oh, you
know what, that whole week, I am so busy with
workacker it's my birthday week or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I can't or even just like being transparent about the
fact that, like, I don't know how I'll feel on
the day of. It's a lot for me, and that's
been a it's tough. It depends on the relationship where
it's like if I'm cool enough with someone where I
can feel comfortable being like, Listen, I got a lot
going on this week, and come Saturday, I might not
want to talk to anybody. Yes, sure, that sounds like
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that's fair.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I mean if you don't get that, then I don't
know if I want to be your friend one hundred percent,
then we're just not at the same place. Yes, exactly,
you need to be.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You need people that you can say, like I need
to just lay on my side and play a mobile
game tonight, lay on my track mobile game choice. Okay,
so I am not a mobile gamer, but right now
I am. I don't know what's happened to me.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Ki.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I am taken by this one mobile game.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I don't like game. You calling them mobile games is
killing me.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You're playing it on an LG. Chocolate.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
It's a game.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
It's called Watermelon Drop. It's just okay, basic. I think
it's like an off brand candy crush.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Like I don't know, and for some reason, what made
you download it?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So my friends on my podcast they were like, they
were like, oh, they were just talking about that. They
like the web browser version, and I was like, oh,
I don't like games.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
You log into a web browser and play it. That's
your friends do a mouse? Then, yeah, you need a desktop.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, what's happening? Entertainment system?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yes, it needs to be chunky.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
No, And they said it for some reason and for
some I don't know. Oh, yes, I'll tell you how
I got hooked onto it. I was stuck at the
Apple store and they had and I was stranded, couldn't leave,
and I was just standing there without anything to distract. Yeah, ship,
I know they love that fucking game. And then I
just went on this computer because I was just waiting
there to fucking lap my iPhone, and I like pulled
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it up and for some reason, some connect I don't
know what it is. And now every night I gotta
play before bed.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I actually I also play some mobile games myself. You do.
During the pandemic, when I had like heightened anxiety, I
read a Vice article about how it's gonna call them
mobile games? Was it killed? Yes, about how mobile games
can like mobile game with anxiety. Yeah, and there was
this the game called Dots. I think I think the
viewers will know it's it's like people who know dots
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know dots.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Okay, people know dots dot. I sure got.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It, like helped my anxiety so much, and I would
play it right before bet and it would literally be
me like purging the day getting into Dots, like getting
to like I'm at like level six hundred and fifty,
so I don't know dots, but that's a big level.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah you can.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
You can already tell up there.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
But I've only played it in a lot in the
last year because dairy, say, my anxiety hasn't been a
badness last year, which.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Is great I've ever heard.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
So I like logged into Dots the other day and
it was like you've been missing Like it was like
mad missing these things.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Oh my god, mind it's a monster who has a
bunch of dots.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
You miss me. But I love that you're addicted to
your mobile game. I think what it is is.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
In Watermelon Drop, when fruits connect, they get to be
bigger fruits.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
And when the fruits become bigger.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
It's actually really deep.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
When we gather we get to be bigger.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And I think when the fruit becomes bigger, my phone
buzzes a bit.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yes, Dots does that too? When stops? Does it too? Dots,
it doesn't. And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I think it's a brain thing like my body.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yes, And I'm like.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I don't know what I Oh, No, this is scary.
I think it's like a I don't know. It's like
a physiological psychologists have worked with these game people. They're
in the and they're pulling. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I wonder like what, uh, what research goes into that stuff?
Into that stuff? Do they have like a couple of
freaks like us just with wires? Yeah, up to us
in the middle.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Of making twenty bucks a day.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
They're like, I would just feel good.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Do you like it like this? Do you like it
like this? And what if I change all the colors?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
How do you feel like change Dots?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Also, Dots like when you update it, it changes for
the season. Oh, so like for Halloween and right now
there's like pumpkins floating like I loves that. That's really
sweet about Dots.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I got so into mobile games during the pandemic that
my mom bought me a switch a switch light which
is like a tinier version of the regular switch and
I play that a lot. I play like Animal Crossing.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And Chip who Mary turned into when Animal Crossing enter
her life? Was so shocking? No, it was really Actually
it wasn't that shock. It was the signs had been
there for years. Besides, the signs had been there for years.
But like, I wasn't prepared to receive a text message
with like a screenshot from the game of Mary being like,
I went to a birthday party today and it's just
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like her character and three other random I'm animal crossing
animals around a birthday cake. Happy Birthday. I was sitting
at home last night. A friend actually a friend called
me at like ten and was like, I had like
an impromptu night out come out to this bar, and
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I was like, I was sitting on my couch with
I was doing laundry. It was on my second whiskey,
which has been a thing I've been doing lately, is
like don Draper, just kind of like lounging around the
house of the whiskey. And I was watching the duck
him intory about Vince McMahon from the w W Oh
my God, and I was like, what a night and
I was like, there's nothing that could pull me from
this right now. What am I gonna do go out
(08:08):
to a bar and like make friends. No, I'm not
here to make friends. I'm here to sit and watch
Vince McMahon ruined lives.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Oh, and you were doing laundry. That's the fucking best
with laundry, where you can you're not even doing shit.
It's in the machine and he feels like you're doing shit.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
You feel like you're getting out of your life.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, then it comes out and you gotta fold and
put it all away. But like when it's in there,
I feel like I'm multitasking so much, but I'm not
doing anything.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Do you ever block out time like in your week
where you're like I always think of it as you
know how like teachers have like a professional development days
where they're like, there's.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
No that that would happen, like no.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
One comes to school, or if it's like before like
the week before the kids come to school, whatever, But
like I always think of them like that, where I'm like,
I couldn't possibly have a professional development and it's just.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I forgot that they would be Like the teachers are
just coming in for a day for the teachers.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Do you think they were Actually.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
No, they know they do it. That's like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, they're like professionally developing. Yea, they have they're professionally
developing developing film. Yes, lots of developing.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I have a friend who does a doctor day once
a year where she lines all of them up. She
does like her like fucking vagina doctor, her eye doctor,
and she just does it all in one.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
That's hard to coordinate because it's like so hard to
get it all happening the same time. Yeah, and you're
like poked and prodded a lot. Yeah, and she was
just and that's like her one day.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It makes me feel like RoboCop.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah fine, wow, Okay, So you said earlier that you
have a lot of anxiety when you cancel, right because
you feel like, oh, I'm letting someone down. Dare I say,
because I know you're you just said that, and I
know that you're funny and whatever. Do you feel like
maybe you have too many friends who want to hang
out with you?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I think maybe, But I think that was a trap.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You're just trying to get here on cameras.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I sometime.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I have a lot of people that want to hang
I feel like I've made too many friends over the years.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, God, I love all of you, so I which
cameras mine? I love all of you so much. But
I'm like, oh, no, I think I've got too many
people that I owe something to.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, I think I feel like maybe you're similar. I
don't like when friendships is all fame. I'm like one
of those girls. It's like, even if we're naturally growing apart,
I'm gonna still make it work. Yeah, yeah, yeah, You're
gonna still still gonna get drinks and ask about your life.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
That to me feels like failure on me one hundred
percent when but it's just a normal thing about life
that you grow apart. But I do think that's also
an early twenties thing where you're like, and my amount
of friends is like how much I'm loved or something.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Like that self worth. And also I don't ever want
to be someone that like has enemies or has unspoken
things with people, because it doesn't sit well with me.
So I'm like, we either have to be friends or
we've never met.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Do your parents have a lot of friends? Like was
that a thing that you saw as like a kid
at all? Like that you're sort of like modeling because
in my mind, I'm like, oh, yeah, like my parents
had like a lot of like older like like longtime friends.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, that might be it.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I don't know that my mom my parents both now
in their age, they don't have like a lot of friends.
But I think it's like.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
A schooling thing.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Like in school, it was like so interesting point.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
And also we're all theater kids, right, so that's that's
a whole other can of worms.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Oh yeah, of worms right there.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, you know, it's so funny. My dad has a
lot of friends. My mom does too, but my mom,
like my mom is so much fam My mom is
a huge family and those are like her best friends,
like her sisters and stuff. So it's like, I think
I don't think it was my parents. I think it
was I think you're right. I think school maybe.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
And I'm a I keep talking about astrology as if
like that's so important to me. It's like not really,
but like I'm a Gemini and that I surround myself
with people because I just love people. But the older
I get and I feel like you could relate to
this too, the more introverted I'm becoming.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, well, I'm like classical libro where I love people,
I need people, but I also I am.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
So scared of people. Oh interesting, So it's just like.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I think it's just like forgetting deep. I think it's
just we do get deep sometimes, Okay. I think it's
just growing up with like bad friendships and bad just bad,
just any type of young I don't know any relationship
where people try to take control of you or something
like that young at a young age. I think the
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girl world in middle school was so bad for me
sure that I think it made me be like I
need these friends, but also if they turn on me,
I'm fucked. So I'm so scared. I'm scared of you
and I love you.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Hm. So do you go to things sometimes? Even still
now that you're like, I really don't want to go.
The last thing I want to do is drink a
martini with X, Y and Z. But I'm gonna go
because if I lose this friendship, like it'll be bad. See.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I think I'm in the phase where I'm I don't know,
I still think, okay, so you still I'm trying to
grow out of it.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Still, I feel like it's so goofy to like be
an adult and be like afraid of someone almost or
just to be like I I Am going to uh
go to this thing where there's like I don't know,
maybe like a volatile person there or something like, and
they could just ruin the night or just like in
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my mind, I'm like they could if they so chose
to destroy me. They could. But I'm gonna make them
like me exactly, And like that's such a weird sing
that we pull for.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
So fucked up, and that's I was gonna say.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
We all are actors. We live in Los Angeles, we
have in a city. You were like, there are creatures
out there that are just like hard to be around,
but you still want their approval.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I just never wanted to miss out. I feel like,
especially like involved in like theater as a kid, anytime
there was I never wanted to miss out on whatever
the experience of what a show was going to be
something like I didn't I was not excited about or
do you. I was like, so help me, God, there's
not gonna be a single show that goes up in
this place that I am not going to be a
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part of.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Oh my godness, in the choir, okay, I am in the.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Choir in the exactly, I am not.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Going to miss this and I'm going to be there
all the time. I know all the drama.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah oh yeah, I still crave and miss just the
feeling of being in an ensemble and like the feeling
of being backstage.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I craven missed the feeling of being an ensemble.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
You heard me. I feel that showed deeply. You can
quote me on it. I had to repeat it. I
want to be backstage whispering about someone. I want to
be you all have a kissing together boy, and that
three of us have already kissed. I want to have
a call time. I want to be mad at the directors.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I want to like read the gas lits.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yes, I want to feel those feelings again.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I'm not missing a single rehearsal. I'm not. I'm there,
I'm dropped in. I'm there.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Was that girl where they were like, okay, tech week,
You're going to be here long hours and you're gonna
be here all night and people will be like oh,
I'd be like that's awesome. I live here till seven.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
What are they called ten to twelve, ten of twelve,
ten to twelve. I got a ten of twelve sorry,
Oh my god. I remember saying that in college, like
to my normy friends, I like were in the theater department, like, sorry,
I've got a ten out of twelve, you would get it.
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Do you can I use the restaurant?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I can't even focus. This has ruined me.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Angela, I told you, I said, that's a dangerous Really,
I said, that's a dangerous.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
What thing is this? It's this this morning.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
It has probiotics. It's like for your stomach, it's not well. Yeah,
and if you drank last night, it's even worse.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Go. Yeah. Can I just say I respect you so
much for coming through with this, simply the.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Most sensitive to hangovers.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, I know it was this.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Yeah, it has probiotics.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
In two four six.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Two six, this is should keep it in. We're definitely
keeping this in. Poor poor girl. This is such good context.
(16:50):
Let me tell you that it is.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Trust me.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I zoomed into the why.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I won't cancel any plants. I'm not even I'm vomiting,
I know, and I won't cancel.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I know. I'm going to take this away from you. Actually,
this is bad you and then you take this water. Okay,
so we're going to keep on sipping on it and
you're gonna so.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
All that's coming out is just that. And I was
fine this morning.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
What isnt that? It's like crazy probiotics, which like if
your stomach, I don't know. Sometimes it doesn't hit people
the best.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And I love a kombucha.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I love you, guys. Thank you for being so nice.
I called it. I saw those drinks and I was like,
what is she doing? Dangerous? And it was carbonation. Man, No,
it was so chilling.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
And then it's because I've been there, crazy episode of
a podcast. One second, I don't want to cancel this moment.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Are you feeling okay?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
When you left? Kyle's like we have to take that
away from her. Okay, anyway, I'm sorry you don't feel
good though.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Has there ever been a show that that you were like,
I'm I'm out, I'm canceling, okay, Like performances, I feel
like sometimes it's like, oh, things happen whatever, like people
get sick, yeah, stuff like that. But I mean like
starting it and then being like I am removing myself
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from this.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Situation candalus question would never never? Oh yeah, I mean
but then I don't know, you guys, are like, you
guys get it, but at some point you have to
take the work. Yes, you got it, do it? Like, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Imagining you as a twelve year old, Like, so we're
talk we went to adulthood. But yeah, what you're saying
both apply. But I was like imagine giving like I
got it.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
No, but I was listing I'm in the pickwar, but
I need the work.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I was absolutely that kid though. That was like, listen,
I'm not going to turn down the work in the
fifth grade Fiddler on the roof.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Honest, it's momentum.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I need to build it.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And you know, I'm a teacup and beating the base
and we'll get there.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
And let me tell you something. The momentum was built.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
The momentum was built.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I'm riding on twenty five five years of momentum. Baby.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
No, it's good to hear that you do not cancel
on like professional.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Things, especially it's like the eleven PM improv show.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
You're like, oh god, I've never had that constitution for that.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I wish that I could be someone who loves that
same because it's I used.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
To did you ever I used to love like late
weird theater kiddie, stuff in my twenties where you're like, yeah,
this is basically just theater school again, and I gotta
grow out of this.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I gotta go home.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I gotta go home.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I wish I like I moved to New York when
I first graduated, and I did, Like that's where I
took all of my UCB classes and I had like
an indie team and we performed all the places you
were supposed to perform, and sometimes the shows would be
like at ten and I hated it. Yeah, I never
I wish I grew out of it so fast, Like
I just hated it so early and I hate that.
And my improv team knew how much I hated them.
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I also hated them.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Oh okay, well that's important.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I hated them. Yeah, And it was like a joke.
It was a running joke with Mary hates us, well,
she hates being around us. Mary hates Like we did
a tour. We like were performed, like we did these
festivals whatever, and it would be like Mary's not saying
at the same hotel.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
This escalated to the point where you were traveling, you were.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Shows, and you were traveling.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Now we only did like three festivals. Hated them so much,
did them so much, but it was like all I
had against you can't turn down war.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
You simply can't be if they need me. In the
Io West Loss, we performed at.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
This bar like underneath Madison Square Garden that no one
knew about, and it was like one person was watching
us or something, and.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I wor.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
That's put the cigarette out.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
That's worse. I know. We went to like an Orioles
game because we were like at a festival in Baltimore,
and I like didn't even ice out with other people
I knew from Baltimore, not my improv team, and they
were like, he's not sitting with us.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I'm so creed. Are any of those people still like
doing I'm a hundred.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Percent sure they're all still out there in indie teams
like at ten PM.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I love that you openly hated them.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
And I'm not like me, like I'm a very nice,
normally like overly nice person, but this this particular phase
in my life and these particular people hate it.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
So there was a moment where I was totally on
board with going to those like late night shows and
like being excited and energized and motivated because there was
still this kind of structure existing in my brain where
I was like, oh, well then this will lead to
like I was too, I was like, there was still mine.
I was still young enough to believe in like you're
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going to be seen, be seen, and they used to
happen in like merit based achievement anymore like ten years ago,
people were coming to shows like just general merit based achievement.
I was like, I'm going to do this ye things,
I'm gonna get that totally and people are gonna see
me be funny. Or I would cancel on things because
I was like, oh, I can't, like I don't think
I'm good enough at this and I can't afford for
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people to see me not be funny.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
So that's what kind of pushed me out of like
trying to get better at improv was because I was like,
no one knows who I am or cares who I am,
but if I show up here and do a shit job,
people are gonna know that I'm not funny.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
That really just affected me.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That's so true, which is why I got nice into
sketch because I was like, I can control the environment.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, Because you can control I.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Thought of this. Do you feel like immense relief when
people cancel plans?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Same, I'm always going to be that way.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, I was gonna go.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Oh, it feels like you earned time. It's like when
you return clothes and you feel like you made money.
It feels like I like I got four more hours.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, you got your life back.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Do you feel relief in that it frees you up
to do something that you also said yes to you
or in that you're like, I'm gonna do nothing?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Both? A little bit of both. Sometimes I'm like, sometimes
I get genuinely relieved because I've overbooked and then or
I double booked, which is usually yeah, and then I'm
relieved because now it's I can do the day.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
But I think socially, I'll usually just stay home if
they canceled something. Yeah, if it's like during the day,
I'll try to fill it.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
With some bullshit that I need to get done or whatever.
And I also do this really toxic thing where like
if my if like my next week, I don't have
any plans, even though that sounds incredible, that sounds incredible
to go to work and then go home and like
watch a TV show that sounds amazing. I will plan
stuff that I know I'm gonna want to cancel because
I'm like, oh, I feel weird about not having Oh
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that's crazy social things for a week. Am I gonna
lose touch everyone? I know? Am I gonna drop off?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
You were talking about this before before you got here,
we were like this doing this has made us more
social in that like, cause it's at the front of
our brains, and I'm like, cancel. This week, I met
a friend for lunch at one pm downtown, Oh my god,
and I went and I went, you know what I
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gotta I think it was closer to like his place,
but I was like, I'm gonna go do this because
I've been talking about canceling plans for two months.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And you were like, it's at the top of your brain.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
It's at the top of my brain. I'm hearing everyone's
thoughts and feelings and opinions on what it means when
someone cancels on you. And I was like, and that's
my friend, and I want to see my friend.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Have people started texting you like ha ha, Mary, Like,
listen to the pod. He can't cancel on me anymore?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
No, and I know they're like joking when I'm like, damn,
this feels deeper. Yeah, because I canceled all the time.
You do such a flake. Yeah, I'm such a flake.
And I put my like I think I put tiredness
over everything owns you. Yeah, it does. Like if I'm
really tired, then I'm like, I just I won't be
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pleasant and I'm not gonna do it for you.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Unfortunately, I'm I think I am the worst type of
canceler where I apologize too much. Yeah, like the best cancelers,
I think other ones are just like, hey, let's reschedulered percent.
And I'm like, oh my god, girl, I'm trying to
make it work. Give me, give me an hour. And
then I just can't just say no.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
My bumper fell off my car. I I just got
a flu shot. I've had friends that like, give me
like a full monologue, and I'm like, it's okay. I
think you need to handle your you need to relax,
It's fine.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
What about what about sliding into like that performance feels harsh?
But like what about that makes it feels comforting or
good to you? When you're like I'm canceling on this
thing and I need them to know that.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I like, I need them to know that I tried, really.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
That that I'm hard. Yeah, and I've done that. Don't
get me wrong, I have one hundred percent done that.
But like the older, I get the less do that
for you hour, But I've given monologues for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Have you guys ever like gone to something and I
mean like mid canceled, like if I like was like
you showed in the middle of this and I was like,
I gotta go.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Oh, yes, I'm way too comfortable with that.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I'll do like drinks and that were like planning to
go out, and I'll be like, hm hmm. So this
is the end of the story, say a short story.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
But my friends now expect that from me. They know
how sensitive I am because anything like the temperature is off,
I'm out. Wow, I have a tummy ache. I'm out.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
God, I wish I was like that she'll.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Disappear in like a plume of smoke.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah, something is a little off. I'm out out.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
It's really magical. I feel like being friends with you
has made me more comfortable.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Okay boldly, So that's so funny.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
You're inspiring me. I just have to be like, hey,
I don't like you people. I'm gonna go to the
end the stadium.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
It's really I've never like I have had a I
had a weird lunch with a friend like a year
or ago that I had seen in a while, and
maybe about like fifteen minutes into it, I was like, Oh,
things have taken a turn, like some something's up with
It was just like catching up on each other. It's
like lives and stuff from high school. But I was like, oh,
things are I gotta get out of here. And the
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server was taking so long to get to us, to
the point where I strapp was like what by the
time we like ordered, I was like, I can get
this mine to go, please, And I got it to
go and I was like, I was like, I'm so sorry.
I I just gotta met. I forget what you lie?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
You got a lie?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I got it I got because you were supposed to
go somewhere else afterwards, and I was like, I gotta go.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Wow, Yeah that's bold. I put it in a box.
I'm leaving now. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I paid for lunch like ve dates like they're like
I have to go to the bathroom when they leave.
I've never done that. Boyfriend asked me. He's like, do
you ever wake up and feel like totally good and healthy?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And I was like, fuck off, now, it wasn't until now.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Yeah. Do you ever wake up and say I feel
good today, I'm healthy today.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Do you ever wake up and not feel like your
skeleton's about to fall out of your body? Like?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
That's just me, That's just how I live.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
What does your when if you have a day that
you cancel and you're like, I have nothing else on
the docket, it is Angela Fest twenty twenty four. Yea,
what does that day look like for you?
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Mobile game.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Game?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Mobile games?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
It's like, it's I have an issue where I mean,
I think this is relatable everyone. I like sometimes I
eat in bed?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Are you kidding me? I do everything in bed? I eat,
I do work, I write in grips, I work. Can
I take tall piss in bed?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Type of food.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Snack in bed?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Oh? Yeah, that's inside like crawled in or like on
top of the covers, on top probably Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I've eaten a bag of chips inside well, inside the bed, yes, interesting,
inside the sheet feels a little risky. If someone else
did that in my bed, I would probably murder them.
But I'm allowed to because I'm single.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I live alone.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Amen.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
And then at the end of my sult and vinegar
chip experience, I wipe the flakes off there and then
I go to bed. That's it. But that's what I'm doing.
I'm eating in bed. That's my second answer, eating in
fucking bed. I went as far as I got, like
a bed tray, like when I lay like.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
James conn and misery.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yes, people, yes, and it goes like this and it
pops out and you go.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I love view big big bread bowl is full of soup.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Bread bowl. And it's hard because I do live in
a studio, so like I don't have a ton of
places to sit, so I use that as an excuse.
But I could sit. I have a little kitchenette table,
like I could sit in the kitchen. But I've eaten
fa in bed.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I've eaten ramen in bed.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
What's your go to bed food?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I think rawmen like just anything in a bowl, big
salad in a.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Bowl, big cereal. I love a late night cereal.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
And do you like do you like, uh, like hot
soups or like noodle soups on a hot day?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
We realize that we both really.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Love like I can't feel it.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, hot day, that's also it even if
it's cold outside, acy still on?
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Is I just like the noise?
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yes, I have a big like loud one.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Do you what what are your go to? Like? Do
you watch shows if you're not on your mobile games?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I'm like, I'm a Bravo girly, I'm incredible.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
All so you're watching trash TV.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I'm watching absolute trash okay, mostly just men apausal women yelling,
yelling at each other over and over and big bowl
screaming calm.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, this is so. That's so what I do. I
do a lot of murder stuff though too, Like, oh
I really want to relate art read a lot.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, oh I do a doc, big big doctor, splatter analyst.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I'm eating like a spicy soup. There's blood everywhere, yes,
I and I will sometimes play my mobile game done just.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Into this impenetrable for it, all senses firing off at once. Yeah, incredible.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I've heard it's also on a TikTok being like I'm
allowing myself to have three screens today, or like it's
like where you have a TV on your laptop and
your cell phone are like you iPad like and you're
just you're just disassociating with all the screens.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Wow. I sometimes I get jealous. I wish it didn't
look so fucking stupid. But like the VR goggles, you know,
like the OTO, some of the people who have them
and enjoy them seem like they really enjoy them. But
I just can't bring like, I.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Just know, can you imagine you're at home like.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
My first And I'm like, but yeah, I don't know.
That seems like a really fun Once the technology really
gets there, I could see myself dropping into something like that,
but it would need to be fun, like I have
to be a fully immersive.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
I want to. I'm so like lazy and I love
my bedtime so much that I want to get those
like little arms that hold your phone.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yes, we should get you a hospital bed.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I think that's what I need. I think you need
a hospital bed. I want to bet. Yeah, I want
the beds that go up. I love you cleaning off
the flakes.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Also something about it being like salt and vinegar flakes
to it's such an image.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Well, they're they're extra flaky.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Extra flaky, and like there's an acidity to it, and
that if if some crumbs were to stay in there,
they would almost kind of like enter your the barrier
of your skin vinegarry. Yeah, you know, not to get
too deep with it. Sorry. Also, I just thought it
of something. Has Has someone canceled on you recently at
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all in a way that you were like.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Huh and name them, say their addressed.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I would have done this better.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I had a friend just recently. We were like, gonna
do lunch on Thursday, and just I gotta text girl,
Thursday's not working anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
The plans are in the future.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I kind of I kind of love that.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
I loved it. That's how that's professionally dropped.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
The other ofls Thursday's not working.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
That's my main issue. If someone cancels on the thing
that like out follow up, without follow up or just
being like hey sorry, and then puts it on me
to figure out the next one at this time exactly
I'm there.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Well, that's a rule with romantic things too, like if
if if someone cancels on a date, they have to
initiate the second one or else if they don't, then
they don't they're not that into.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, has there been anything that either of us have you.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Know, I'm trying to give you a scenario quick that
you could like bounce off of. How would you feel
if someone if you had, like had your makeup on,
you're about to get in an uber.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Or your car to head it's worse. Oh no, if
I've already set myself up, that really gets me. That'll
be like when you like want to go out, Yeah,
because that rarely happens for me. But when I do,
I gotta do it right.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
And you have your hair done and your makeup done
and everything, it's a waste.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
You put all the products on your face. So what
would you do in that scenario?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Would you call someone else to get someone else? Yeah? Yeah, Unfortunately,
Hey I look incredible.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
We have to meet, Like, this concealer is expensive. I
don't look that incredible, but I can't take it off.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I look stunning. If I don't have a Marchini in
my hand in an hour, I will waste it all.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I feel that I feel that way often, Yeah, where
I'm like, well, or if I'm already out for a
thing and like it ended earlier than I thought it would,
or something that's always just like or sometimes I'll be
out of the thing and I feel good, and it's
like sometimes I'll leave a place to go somewhere gay
just because I feel good. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm like,
there's not enough gay people here to see what I'm doing.
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I gotta I gotta get the bar.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
No. I put out with you in so many hetero
scenarios where you look really good and you're like, hey, Mary,
I'm leaving, I'm going to a gay bar, and I'm like, you.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Do just go, go go. I just want to keep
you from your just because yeah. Sorry, No, it's just
the worst. Please, I'm like the worst energy right now.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
No, not at all, because.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I keep feeling like I have to vomit.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
We won't make you. We won't make you do the
Obstacle course or anything.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Okay, we're gonna yeah, I saw the Obstacle course. Okay,
because I probably should go back and vomiting. Okay, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Are we allowed to put this in? Yes, it's very funny.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
We'll ask you for your counsel when we edit it.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
But like this is you have to put this in.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I'm gonna go vomit again. Absolutely No, absolutely not. I
love the gritty raw, but I actually think Angel's gonna
go vomit, but I think you keep going.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I think I think we're good.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
That's so much great. I love you guys so much.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I'm gonna go vomit and go home.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yes, this was the sweetest thing. Don't feel bad at all, truly.
We're just so happy that you drove. I don't even
know if you should drink that too. Okay, sated, feel better.
I'm so sorry you have to keep it.