April 4, 2025 • 48 mins
Weeee’re baaack! It’s SEASON TWO, BABY! Mary and Kyle return with full hearts and empty calendars, ready to welcome Laci Mosley (SCAM GODDESS, GOING DUTCH) for a deep dive on ingenue horses, that one book nobody is allowed to talk about for some reason, and hustling your way at the blackjack table.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Someone's like touchgrass online and be like, oh, you've got
money for that. You got touch grass money.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I can't just touch grass.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Yeah, hello, welcome back to cancel your plans.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
It is season two, baby. Wow, so much has changed,
So much has changed.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's been like four months since we've been in the studio.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Yeah, it's been four months. It's a new year. We've
got kind of a new setup going on here. You
may notice that we're at a table instead of in
the living room.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Yeah, as is our.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Right, this is our home.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
It had nothing to do with the fact that sitting
on the couch for an extending amount of time was
starting to hurt my back, even though I'm only nineteen right.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Famously, we're nineteen and twenty oneteen twenty one years old.
Now drink at a bar. It's exciting.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
But yeah, now we're back. Happy new Year.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
It's happy New Year.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
We haven't recorded since December.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, so it's been four months.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Four months.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Oh, that's crazy. So much has happened in the world.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
So much has happened. Most important of all, I got bangs.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You got bangs, and then you got rid of the banks.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
And I got rid of the bangs.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
We're excited. We're so psyched. We have a really exciting
season planned.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And we have a lot of insanely funny guests coming
for season two, which we're so excited.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
We're super psyched.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Just to sort of kick things off and say, hello,
I guess Mary, I'm curious, what plans have you canceled
this week?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Weirdly, it actually happened this morning. Kyle and I love
to get together before recording and just like have a coffee,
talk to each We just really enjoy each other's company
and we like we like to hold hands. We also
like to be early to things, which is a rarity
in Los Angeles, but we like to be early. We
don't want to be rushed. Right this morning, I woke up,
(01:51):
got ready, I had plenty of time. I was feeling
this so relaxed. I get in the car and I'm like,
twenty minutes for the studio. Easy, it's the La Marathon today. Okay,
they closed off essentially every road.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Mary text me and she's like, I'm walking.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I can't get here in time. I'm walking, and I said,
you're crazy. I'm going to come scoop you. So it
was an emergency mission and I was able to pick
you up on something I had to abort.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I had to leave the car somewhere and I had
to abort the mission and.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
The car was still running. It was left in the
middle of the road, right in the middle of the road.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
It was running over marathoners as.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
I tucked and rolled. But we're here. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I canceled my plans to be early to this, but
it actually worked out.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I was able to get a macha. Oh good for you,
And I didn't feel as rushed as I thought I
would given the situation.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
But you look calm and collected.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, I'm able to put that behind me. And you
know what, maybe consider canceling the La Marathon next year.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
I don't know, we don't need it. Why are you
running outside?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, it's Sunday.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
You should be sleeping tread mills. And you know all
those people have pelotons. There is no way that they
don't get cardio in every day.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
I don't know. Why would you pay for that anyway?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Anyways, Kyle, what did you cancel on this?
Speaker 5 (03:03):
When I cancel, I wrote it down.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Oh, oh nice.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
So I canceled on pretty much accomplishing anything that I
plan to do this week. And instead I took the
time to to re attempt watching the six hour long
Beatles documentary Get Back.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
When they're in the studio time, they're just jamming.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Yeah, it's fun. It's not that boring. It gets over.
It doesn't need to be six hours long. Yeah, yes,
I think.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I don't know, because I think that they're here's the thing, Okay,
it exists because solely for the purpose of being, like,
what would it be like to be in the studio
with the Beatles for three weeks?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
For three weeks? Exactly?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
What did it actually feel like?
Speaker 5 (03:43):
It feels very much like a fly. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
It is cool to watch like them jam their their
dynamics and then to watch to watch them just be
like noodling around a guitar on a guitar, and then
watch Paul be able to just like make get back
out of the ether and be I know that.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Yeah, but kind of bicker.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I liked their bickering.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
I like the bicker yeah yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
The style it was a very like it's like a
time capsule style.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
And I just I don't know, I just that was
pretty much me uh, neglecting any and all responsibilities just
to sort of watch guys being dudes.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Okay, but how does it feel to cancel your plans
to be productive bad while watching a bunch of really
wealthy artists not cancel their plans and get in the
studio And you know, not to shame you, I'm just saying,
like the juxtaposition.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, first of all, actually, you know what what makes
me feel like I'm being productive?
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Especially?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
This is why I love like, I don't know, like
Showbiz Ducks or even sports Dosa story Well no, not that,
but like you know, I get I really get off
watching the each you Hollywood story of j Low.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
I don't know what that one was always playing.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
By the way, did you ever notice that when that was.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Anyway, that wasn't the one for me. Mine was always
like really dark one I like or something.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Thanks was good anyway.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
So the point is I like those documentaries and I
don't feel guilty about canceling my plans to do anything
else and get sucked into that world because I'm like,
well this is.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Research fair a famously a recording artist.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
I'm famously recording artist.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I'm a pop star, but dish, yeah, I'm a British
pop star, but I just I don't know, I feel
like when I'm watching really like successful and talented people
just like do their thing.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
There is a sick part of my ego.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
When there's a sick part of my ego that's sitting
back and watching and going.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Yeah, I'm taking notes right now. Yeah, we're peers.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
We're peers, We're on the same level.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I'm sitting there going, I'm sitting there with my hand
down my pants, just like scratching my ass watching Paul
McCartney come up, come up with fucking get back, and
I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I understand being an influenced day And it's not totally
It couldn't be further from the truth.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Do you feel accomplished, like as if you had created
a song after watching it?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I feel accomplished at all times, especially when I have
no right to feel it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, that's honestly, when I mostly feel accomplished. That's how
I feel about true crime docs. Like I'll watch it
and I go I solved that, I saved a grieving family,
I found a missing child, like I did it. Yeah,
and I can sit back and relax the us the
night because I solved this mystery.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
We're sitting there and we're taking in the information, doing.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Nothing and going sitting with their hands in her.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Pants, hands in our parents, going I helped.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
That's pretty much what I canceled on this week. We
have an incredible guest.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Here with us.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yes, I'm so excited.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
We're thrilled to have Lacy mostly here. Very funny and uh,
stay tuned. We're going to talk to her.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
A dear friend at the pod and a long awaited guest.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Long waited guest, And we're excited. Yeah, thanks for coming
back for season two.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, thanks, thanks for not canceling on us.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah, we're excited.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
It's a new era, it's a new dawn, it's a
new day, and it's a new life for me.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
For me, and I'm feeling fine, fine, I'm feeling good.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Feel all right.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Today we are joined by a Hollywood engenue starlet of
the stage and screen. You may know her from many
television programs, most recently Fox Is Going Dutch Who, but
you definitely know her from her wildly successful podcast, Scam Goddess,
her wildly successful book, Scam Goddess, and her wildly successful
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television show now streaming on Hulu, Scam Goddess. She is
a true triple threat in the sense that you are
three times more likely to die if she's behind the
wheel of a car. Lacy, welcome to canceling your plans.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Thank you for having me. Oh my goodness. I first
of all, I feel like, you know, used to be
like a theatrical term, and now I feel like it's
just for the gays. We've just taken it. I don't
ever hear anyone in Hollywood be like young, Like it's.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Definitely just pills this morning, and I'm ready to rocky
look at me.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, just let me as you are though, like you're yeah,
you've got that, You've got that old Hollywood quality.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
That's our quality. With quality, is that the one with
the cigarettes and.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Beta mean, yeah, they're like, come on, take this, keep dancing,
keep dancing.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, but it's the eating.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
We talked about this before. But it's like the show
must go on, like I will. I will be there
and I'm going to show up and I'm going to
show out like I'm going to do it.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Kyle knows. Kyle is a co executive producer on Scam Got,
the television show, so he knows the do you want.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
To get into it?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
The show must go on must go on?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Well, I mean now that we're I mean we're talking
about it already. Is it's just you are so incredibly busy. Yeah,
and you're she's booked all the time, she's blessed, and
she's giving one hundred percent all the time a lot.
So when it comes to canceling plans, what is your
personal relationship to being like pump the brakes, I'm out
of here, or are you like, yes, what time?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Well am I supposed to be there?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
That's hard Honestly, lately it's kind of been like I
just don't make plans socially, just so I don't have
to worry about canceling them, which I realized was a problem.
So I was like, you can't put like life can't
be just work, And that was like right where I
was for a strong two years.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
And when you say not making plans at all, like
like genuinely not making plans, or just saying no to plans.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Generally not making a lot of plans, or like if
I want to go on vacation, I'm like I as
soon as it's like the age all, as soon as
you book a flight, you will book a job and
it will be something yeah, she had turned down. Yeah,
or you're like, oh, I have some free time coming up,
like right after we finished Scam Goddess and then I
think like once we were like we were in post
production and six days later I was in Ireland. Six
(10:12):
days from the last day of shooting U Scam Goddess
in Seattle, I was in Ireland. That's crazy. And there
was no like, oh, I know, I'm going to Ireland.
Beforehand it was like maybe, and then it was like definitely.
So yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Insane, like the norm like a normal person doesn't ever
experience that in their lives.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I mean, I don't know. There's a lot of people.
I don't know what to pategraz as normal. I'd hardly
call it normal normal to die. But the girls be
out here taking vacations and going places. Yeah, and I'm like, oh,
like every time I want to go, Like I was
gonna go meet my friends in France and then we're
gonna go to Budapest to see another friend who was
shooting and then have my flights booked. I was so
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excited booked a job, and my agents at the time
called me and were like, yeah, so you booked it.
We told him you going to do it, so, yeah,
go ahead and cancel that flight. And I was like,
how are you not?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, so your agents are telling you to cancel your flights.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
So we're trying to kill you. You cancel.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
These aren't my agents now, but at whole time they were,
and they were.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Like, good news, good news, you're dead.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Jesus.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
That was a recurring theme for I feel like the
majority of us of our time filming the show, but
even like leading up to the show, there's you.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Had a lot going on work wise, and it's just
we kept on coming back.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
You know that clip of Miley Cyrus during the Banger's
tour when she's like, they tried to.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Kill me, to kill your favorite bitch.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
She just kept on saying that out loud, just like
like they're trying.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
To kill me.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
They're trying to v Because Kyle would be in different
meetings while I'm either like getting ready or getting up
your stuff. So he's like in another meeting and he's like,
they're trying to kill us, and I'm like, they're trying
to kill your favorite. And it's like not like in
in a negative way, it was just like it would
always be like some when we were doing Scam Goddess,
which is a television show where we kind of expand
upon my podcast, but we take a show about U scams, frauds, robberies,
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like things like that, and we go to the cities
where each of them happened, like really famous scams, and
we interviewed people there and we got we got to
know the town.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
We like.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Kyle pitched up an amazing show.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
By the way, I like, it's you on the horse
like us.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Tricksy, Fuck Tricksy, Tricksy. I could tell, you could.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Tell like there was something going on between you and Tricksy.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
It was.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It's such a funny show.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I fucking love it.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I hope everyone's watched.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Trixy was the biggest deep of the show. I'm always
gonna talk about her. During the press tour, I refuse
to take photos with her on the carpet.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Everyone, everyone on the carpet.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Everyone unfollowed Tricksy. Right after the show, the trick came out,
she was a diva.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
With flooding Reddit threads with bots being like Tricksy.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I have people making TikTok about Tricksy. No, it was
fully We're admitting to it.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
We're burying her.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
We are we're gonna kill her. Because there were points
where Tricksie was like one a young horse so did
not want to do anything that I was saying. And
I had told like other people on our production team,
like yeah, I can ride a horse. I've ridden horses
like through childhood, Like okay, you know whatever, familiar like
a questronaut exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
A question not.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Meaning I only eat horse, yes, but speaking of a
true And she was like, I'm young, it's show biz.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Let me just tap dance all over this poor woman
who's trying to ride me.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
And like so the first time we were riding her,
like when she was actually behaving, they had me riding
in a circle for so long that Trixie got tired
of it and so she could see her friends in
the stable. So eventually she wouldn't let me guide her.
She just kept going back to the stable to try
to hang out with her friends. And I was like,
not seriously, And it got to the point by the
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end I had to like get off and just like
kind of walk with her. But I was determined to
ride Tricksy. Okay, is there a word like you know
how bitch means dog? Like I know, marriage sounds too
nice for male horse, right, horse bitch.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Too nice a word. This is a horse, bitch.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
You were determined to team that.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, remember we brought horse bitch back and this this diva,
this diva had the nerves. Remember remember you know exactly
what I'm gonna say. She fucking needed a friend to
come with her. So when we brought her to the
actual city of Dixon to shoot, yeah, she pulled up
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with a fucking.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Entourage that was in her rider that she had to
have other horses with her.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Everyone that was on our team had a specific purpose.
Like Kyle was producing, Trey was styling, Alexander was doing
my hair, Carly Price was doing makeup. All of our
team everyone had a special purpose and they would joke
and call us the entourage mean while bitch horse tricksy.
I literally brought a friend that was never on camera
to relax her for emotional.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Support, emotional support. The horse had an emotional support.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yes, the horse had an emotional So I'm looking at.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
This episode at a completely different like lens. This was
about Trixy. This wasn't This wasn't about that scam, even
though that was an incredible scamp, Like millions of dollars
messed up.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
But yeah, honestly, I like to think that that horse
was her acting coach. You know, the actors have like
an overbearing acting coach. That's just like I have to
discuss with me.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
In a moment. We're going to be five, okay.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
So like when you go in there, I want you
to bite the ship.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Out of her. Tricksie stepped on me.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yes, And when a horse steps on you, like that's heavy,
that's no, No, it was not hurt. For a week,
she didn't bite you, did she.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
She tried, She tried, she tried.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
But Lacy, being the professional that she is, didn't say
this horse just stepped on me.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
She said, we're going to get the shot on getting
on this horse.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, I kept So you didn't cancel on your plans
to ride a horse into the trail that show.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
No, And like you know, after Tricksy's acting coach, you know,
because like we're in front of the statue of Ronald Reagan,
who's also on a horse.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Which, by the way, the statue had like a wet
t shirt.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
On so you could see his as nasty. I never
thought of Donald Reagan with abs. I don't think of
him much.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Of a Why is he wet on a horse?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
People are really horny for them him there and that's
where he's from, right yeah, okay, right right, yes, So
they're like they got a Reagan street, they got a
Reagan run, they get If you watch the episode, you'll
see there's so much, way more Reagan than you would think.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
I think that we cut back on. We were like,
there's too much Reagan to.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Tell the story. But Reagan just keeps showing up and
he's dead. How was he in so many frames?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Ye?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, but so I guess I'm canceling my plans in that,
like I've never been. I can have a Diva moment,
but it's more dramatic and like I'm sure Kyle will
get into one in a moment, but it's never it's
never in like a professional set. If it's like the
Horst step on me, but we're mid frame, like or
we're like you're gonna shot. I'm like, we're gonna get
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the shot. You're not even gonna know that I got
stepped on, Like we're gonna just I'm just gonna like, yeah,
tricks it all right, Like.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
You know, I'm not gonna like built your brand yourself,
like you built it from the ground up, just you.
So you're like, oh, no, I'm doing this because it's
my thing and I built this.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
And also just like maybe I'm a bit of a
glutton for punishment. I had to really learn that in
the acting industry, like people will let you die. That
was That was a big lesson. I got thrown into
the Pacific Ocean on my first serious, regular job, Florida Girls.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Which I love.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I'm so sad that we never got to shoots.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
So funny, it's just specific.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
You guys didn't film in Florida.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So we did, but we shot the initial pilot presentation
it partly in Long Beach and partly just in Los Angeles, Okay.
And so I remember like that crew, like they're lovely people,
but you know, when something's like a little lower budget,
you know, get what you pay for. Everyone was wonderful,
But I remember a moment like like we're supposed to
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steal a jet ski and there's four of us on
this jet ski. There's no such thing as a four
person jet ski.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
There's barely like a one person judge.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So we're all getting on and it's like fuck girl,
and like and then someone's yelling after us. It's like
the end of the pot. And it was like, you bitches,
bring back my jet ski and so we're just supposed
to like ride off into the ocean on this jet ski.
You know, we're so fun loving Yeah, And right before
we shot that scene, I kept remembering people just like
casually coming up to me in production and never in
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any formal capacity, not like a sit down, not like
a safety meeting, but just being like you could swim, right,
And I was like yeah, but there was no like
we were not supposed to get wet, and we were
not wearing life vests, like we were going into the
ocean like so far out there presentation this is yeah,
like drone shots and so far out that the life
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guards that they had for us had to be out
of frame of the shots, so they had to be
kind of like a little further away, and so people
would just walk I would like leave my trailer like
just getting fitted, you know, or putting my wardrobe on,
and then somebody else would walk by and be like
strong swimmer, yeah, just.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
To you, not the other girls.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I don't know if they were doing it. To everyone else.
But yeah, I just I just kept noticing it, and
I was like, oh my god, I'm gonna fall in
the ocean. I'm gonna fall in ocean. And at the
time I wasn't a super strong swimmer. I could swim,
but I eventually took swimming lessons after to feel more comfortable,
but I still don't work with ocean.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, this traumatized you.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I mean anything that's ruled by the moon, Like, I'm
not getting that bitch, even.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
The strongest the swimmers, we have no business being down there.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
No what if I was supposed to be there, I'd
have gills right.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I respect it. I will get right next to take
a picture and be like, look at it behind me.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
You don't know what I mean, what creatures beneath. I
have a question about adult swimming lessons now. Is it
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just all grown ups there or were you like floating
with the children?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Okay, I couldn't bear to sign up for a class
because that was my fear that I was going to
be this big grown lady and everyone else is doing
like tease pony water wings, like they're throwing the babies
in and then they have to chuck my big ass.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
And where they throw the babies.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
And they're fine.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Because it's natural for them in the beginning. But that's
what I imagined, like signing up for like a class
of the y would be, is like they throw all
the babies in and then they throw me in something.
I'm like holding the other babies down for air. So
I was like, no, no, no, I don't want to do that. Actually,
you probably both know her. I know you do, Kima. I.
(21:00):
I rented out a you can go of course, so
La in La you can rent out lawn space if
you don't have a lawn for your dog, like to
just let your dog have like a yard. Like there's
a website just this is so millennial. This will never
own homes, so you can't. Yeah, in a lawn. You
can also rent a pool for a few hours.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
It charged by blade of grass. What the fuck the droppings.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
It was depressing when I heard about the rent a
lawn and and the way that I heard about it
was sad because my friend was like, oh, yeah, you know,
we're in the apartment complex, but there's this great place.
But you can rent a backyard.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
We're really grass did rent backyard birthday.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
It's like an event, but like just to be like,
I want to touch grass and you have to pay
fifty dollars.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
That's crazy for all of you out there. Great clap back.
If you live in a city and someone's like touch
grass online, be like, oh you've got money for that.
You got touch grass.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I can't just touch grass?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah I can.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Will We can't just be touching grass at home.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
So okay, So Kim, you taught me in a pool.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
So you rented a pool so you'd have privacy.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Wow, So it sounds like professionally lazy. You don't cancel no,
you say yes.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, I'm very much yes, And I think I took
a way too far. Yeah, well lazy.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
There's a section of the show where we take some
viewer mail and way in on, way on, way in
on their tales of cancelation.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
They may be taking advice, maybe seeking advice.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah, all that all that jazz one was sent in
that I thought was really fun and I thought that
you would have a strong opinion on. So this is
from a listener and it goes as follows. For my
thirtieth birthday month, my month month, to know exactly who
you are, we know exactly what we are.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I'm not judging though, Yeah, we know that's logical.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Sign you are.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
My boyfriend and I had plans to rent a cabin
in Big Bear nice Jacuzzie smoked some joints in the
mountains in the snow.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Quarious.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, you're so right.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
I booked and paid for everything about four to five
days before he tells me he got booked for Central
casting for one of those days and could not afford
to go on.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
The trip at all.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
I was really sad about it and begged him for
a while, even telling him I would pay him what
Central casting would so pathetic.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
For our listeners. Central casting is like background acting. You
don't make a lot, and it's it's hard.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
But I would not ditch my girlfriend for.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
A yeah yeah yeah, So they offered to pay him
with Central casting would so pathetic. Anyway, I was able
to refund the trip entirely, but it was a bummer. Wow,
they feel about so they called themselves pathetic. They said
I'll pay your.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Money because I'm pathetic to do this.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I don't think that's pathetic, but I will say, reading
between the lines, there seems like a lot going on here. Yeah, Hey,
you're one of those birthday month people. So maybe you
had a lot more birthday plans, maybe on your actual birthday,
and your part getting was like I need this eighty
five dollars. How about we do this?
Speaker 1 (24:05):
True?
Speaker 5 (24:05):
How about I do this instead? But I think you
gotta go.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I think you got you gotta exit and leave and depart,
and it's definitely time to you know, ski daddle because Okay,
here's my thing, even if because I have an Aquarius
friend who's a birthday month person, but it's not for
some reason, there are some obnoxious people who are like, okay,
we got brunch, we got lunch, we got dinner, we
got we got a party, We're going to the discotheca.
(24:31):
Everybody just gotta throw in for the ecstasy, like you know,
like those people. And it's like those people are insufferable
because they want you to pay for they like the
check comes and it's not just taken care of. It's
like who got for mimosas? Who got the waffle? Who
got you know? And I'm like, no, no, we're not
doing it. That is what that's a connotation with birthday month.
(24:53):
But I do have a friend who's like a birthday
month person, where it's like, oh, it's maybe we have
different little things throughout the month. Aren't actually on my birthday,
but like, hey, if y'all want to come, this set
of friends comes to the park and hangs out with
me at the park and we have a picnic. This
set of friends goes, you know, down to Malibuu. I'm
speaking of one person specifically, but it's like, goes down
to Malibuu and we party with all of the gays
(25:14):
that didn't kill Jennifer Coolidge in the White Lotus and
we party to the break of dawn. Yeah, and you know,
there might be little things in between, but it doesn't
it doesn't feel like forced. If this is a you
and your man's y'all go into the mountains and you're
gonna smoke weed and do each other, that's like the
whole weekend is just doing weed and each.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Other and each other.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, you know, I'm definitely with that image on the internet.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
And by the way, this was also a very small.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Pis small pins.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
That's what it was like. If you if your man
is gonna take eighty five dollars over a free trip,
and it's not like he is in a serving position,
like we've waited tables like, let's say you can't get
someone to cover your show totally. That's completely different because
you could technically lose your whole job and livelihood. Yeah,
if you don't go to work, but if it's a
(26:13):
Central Casting where you clicked on it and it was
like mails between the age of eighteen and thirty five,
you'll own a gray Honda Accord eighty five.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
And also like listen, you're not going to be discovered.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
On this investigation discovery show of I didn't know that
my neighbor was a killer clown.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
And it's not a lot of money that you're saying
no to because a restaurant shift you're saying no to
like three hundred bucks possibly, But you know, central casting,
it doesn't you know, you don't make a ton. It
depends on the pre.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
And it's like less tax too, And if he's in sad,
he's making more than the eighty five dollars. But even
that at most, like I mean, you could get I
mean time and halfway one eighty five two hundred.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
This person clearly doesn't mean a lot to them.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah, I do think it's it's signal to find how
they feel about the relationship.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
I get it. It is hard out here, is money
is tight.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Eggs are a trillion dollars. So if you if you're like,
how am I going to have breakfast this week? I
need to take the central casting booking. But also like,
if you're trying to build something, especially in entertainment, you
got to have a life at home. And how you're
going to have a life at home if you're bailing
on a trip a few days beforehand?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Five days?
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Right, he has like five days beforehand and they paid
for the whole thing anyway, right, the girlfriend paid?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, whoever?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
See that was my first flag. Is like bibs. Even
if it's just like you, I have paid for trips
with friends and family, and you know, I love to
pay for a big ass party or something. But in
this particular instance when she described the relationship, this is
giving me like man who doesn't want to be alone
(27:52):
and woman who is invested in a relationship, and y'all
are on two different paths. There are some people. There's
some men who and women too, who are like always
going to have a boyfriend or a girlfriend. I never
see them. It's like it's like if you saw like
an affinity straw, Like I don't know, like just like
a bottomless cup of relationship. It's like wild my mouth
always on a straw and then it's never running out,
(28:14):
there's no break between, never had I know.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
They're constantly down there now.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Serial monogamous.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
This is a straw.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Okay, they're all straws now.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
It was like it was a it was a it
was all a straw all along. It was never a
weed and it was never a pain ever. It was
always just a really straw that just goes on for.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Yes, we see those people all the time. You're like,
you really are a cereal monogamous.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, and you're willing to put down cash to make this,
like to constantly be paying for your boyfriend, are constantly
paying for you.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
On her side, I feel like she's invested in the
relationship if a woman is coming out of some coin.
And that's probably why she said put that right, it's
like he's gonna you're not at all at all. Okay.
I hope my mom never sees this, because yes, I
have like paid for some things for like a man person.
I feel more comfortable doing it with women than I
(29:13):
do with men. Yes, And I remember he had gotten
comfortable and he wasn't even my boyfriend. I know, you know,
I know he got comfortable because he went to dinner
one time, and this is New York and it was
a nice restaurant. He ordered the like fifty four dollars
ribbi without blinking an eye, knowing that I was gonna
pay me.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, that was so fun.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And he was not fine. He was not fine enough
for that.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah, he was not emploid enough for that. Does that
when that happens.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
He was not red lobster enough for them. I was
so ashamed of myself. My grandma was just grave, just
spin it that my brand was kicking about the grave.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
No, are you like less likely to like want to
fuck them that night? And if he does something I
really want to, like, I have sex a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Okay, My question is in that moment.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
In that moment, let's say.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
The roles are reversed, The roles are reversed, and you're like, Okay,
this person has been very generous and I'm gonna I
want to order this kind of expensive thing.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
How how does someone go about being like is this okay?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Without being like, may I like sugar mom?
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Because I'm just I'm sure there is a hot, classy
way to do it. But because I'm inept in my mind,
I'd be like, my brain goes, show your belly go
please please, But like, how do you even like? Right,
I guess I'm asking for me if I haven't, if
I have a sugar daddy, take me out for this is.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
A learning thing, actually, I just want to know how
do you think the best way to approach that.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I think that if it depends on the age kind
of gap, because like if we were like similar ages,
So if I'm paying for stuff and we're similar ages,
In my mind, I'm not your sugar mama. Like you
might just be in a tough spot and I'm expecting
for you to like get out of that spot. But
this ain't no sugar in situation. I'm not sugaring the girls.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Your investment.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, you're an investment ye yeah, yeah, you better have returns,
which Okay, I want dividends.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
The Fidelity app every day.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Okay, it's giving carns and I need Fidelity yeah okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Investment, yes, okay,
I want Dow Jones. I want something that's been out ira. Yes,
I don't want like recycling the change off of your
coffee purchase as so, but anyway, like in a like
older situation where we know the benefits are like I'm
(31:45):
younger and I'm hot and I'm fun and you take
me places which I have done before, you like sugar baby.
Yeah in New York. Until I realized his name was Stuart,
there's no way he's but I did not know exactly
how old he was, and I remember being like cute
little hat girl dresses, and he would like take me
to Broadway plays and you take me to like all
(32:06):
these lovely restaurants. I never slept with Stuart. One time
I did have too much cocktail and he slipped me
a kiss and I was like, oh no, he's gonna
took us every time. I gotta get out of those.
But also we went to a restaurant where I looked
around and I realized that I think people thought I
was there a working girl there because of the age disparity.
I was like, oh, and when he told me his
(32:28):
age and meet my age at the time, I was like, Okay,
I have to stop this because it's not like my
Why did you meet Stuart? I was at the king
Kole Bar, which is where the girls go to pick
up the rich, richie oldies and so. But I was
actually there like with my homegirl, just hanging out because
I'm bougie. But so Stuart happened upon me, and then
I just started like, you know, I wanted to go
to see the I wanted to go see the brother.
(32:50):
Oh gosh, I can't even remember what was playing at
the time, and.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
I should someone in a long time, but.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
They'll come to me. But yeah, So if you're in
the situation where you're the same age and one of
you is just going through a little toughy tough time,
which I feel like is like the harder ask I
feel like, then you're just like, oh, oh babe, is
it crazy if I get the steak? Or is it
cool if I get the steak? Like that's it. I
don't think you have to be like is it is
it okay? It's please please miss the six friends. I
(33:27):
don't think you have to do all of That's like
I would feel icky and they would probably too. Yeah,
but you can be like, is it wild if I
get the robot? Or like should we chill and get
and offer another option or should we chill the night
and like just get like a little and this was salad.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
What are we thinking?
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Are we think thinking like have fun and enjoy our
time together or maybe this other thing that's not as.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Fun, or also you can offer up like you're gonna
like would they have a piece, like oh, I'm really
craving a ribby, but you don't want to get it.
You get it unless you want to have a little
bit of it. And then that gives them the opportunity
not to feel cheap either, because they can be like,
I don't not feeling that tonight, and then you can
kind of take that as your social cue of like
gone handed that chicken, Caesar. But if they're like, yeah,
(34:07):
let's do it, then you know you're kind of in
the safe zone. But he was just like, oh yeah,
the rabbi yet know in the biggest ouns, and.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I was like, oh, like the biggest ounds corny.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
But in the situation of our girls sugaring her probably
mutual sugar age person, I feel bad because she does
need to break up with him because that man is
not like her that it feels like that's somebody to
have and sleep with and and and spend time with.
And this has nothing to do with your value. Everyone's
not ever going to be not a cup of tea.
(34:39):
There's people that don't like my ass and that has
nothing to do with me. Sometimes I really love that.
I'll admit when it's meant. I was talking about some
suitors I told you about recently.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Damnyle, I didn't think we were going to air this out.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
You know what I have to go.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
I guess I'm trying to say this. I was team Tricksy.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Wow, that's.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Friends for almost a deck.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Chest never canceled on.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
You.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Guys have never canceled on each other as a friend,
not like it plans wise, just like on your friendship.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
And you've been through, We've been tested just producing a show,
like an ugly way, but in a way like you know,
I remember there was there was a moment I learned, okay,
to be fair. I learned this from the Kardashians.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
I'm so excited for this was this was great.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Kyle was like always in like production mode when I
would be in actress mode, so like we would work
together as producers. But then there would come a time
where Kyle would move into production mode and then I'm
getting my face painted or like getting fitted or whatever.
So I'm in the hotel room doing all this right,
and I'm so tired this morning. I'm so hungover. I
realized Martinez were not my thing. Ice giving up that lifestyle. Honestly,
(36:06):
I don't know if I'll ever.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Drink a kid.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I really just was like, Okay, this is we have
to find sure. Yeah, and I saw this episode of
Kardashians where this is years ago. Don't judge, I'll be
watching him no more.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I've seen every episode of Keeping.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I probably have to.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
No judging here.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
But so Chloe Kardashian like had to get up in
the night before they had been out partying. So she's
like laying in bed and the makeup artist is like
doing her makeup and so she's just laying while she's sleeping. Yes, okay,
incredible is made up. I'm fully dressed. It's nothing like inappropriate.
And I have a rapport with Carly my makeup artists
(36:45):
together personally before we were on the show. Professionally, I
brought her onto the show, okay, and she's excellent. So
I was like, I'm gonna try this today because we
have the makeup chair and everything. But I was like,
this is too erect.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
So I'm like laying in and you're like, I'm spinning
the rooms.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
The ring wasn't spinning.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Okay, it wasn't that bad.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I was just hired, so I'm not that's not professional
as hells. In my opinion, it wasn't. But it was
like I'm laying there like as much rest as I
can before, and so I'm like doing this and like
looking up and like like Carl's holding the light or
I'm holding the light or Trays holding the light. Cow
walks it on the.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Okay, on top of the sheets, in full, in full wardrobe,
jewelry on everything, truly like a corpse.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
There's a viewing in.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Progress, like yeah, that's what people do when they're yeah,
having her best jewels on.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
When we send her off, we want to remember her
like this.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Look up.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I'm like, your makeup artists could now do that for
like corpse.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Atam or And I'm like, what the fuck is going
on here?
Speaker 5 (37:47):
I go, Lacy, you get out of that damn bed
right now? And she goes. She rises like no Speranti out.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Of her.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
And it was like one of those moments when you
know you're caught. Yeah, I was trying something ridiculous and
get up right, now and I was like, it's so
sweet that your team was like, Yeahllysy will let you
like and.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Kyle just went no, but she but she was like
it was so funny because you knew you were caught
and you put up there was no.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Like you love that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah that was I tried it somewhere. Yeah,
it's not a thing I should have tried. Okay, yeah,
but for what it's worth, you did look gorgeous that
it was.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Honestly, may have done her best work unconscious.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
I was just resting my eyes.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
You're just resting.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
I take a lot of like show based stuff from
the Kardashians as well, from the many years of watching it,
and I now take beta blockers when I perform because
of Chloe, and Chloe Kardashian takes them.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
You love a beta blocker, you love.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I'm like, I'll be like, Chloe Kardashian taught me about
beta blockers and it's changed my life, Like as alive
for for what is?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I know what it is, but it's not the name
of one. Oh the drug itself is.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
It's like a muscle.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Relaxed that's like an intense no it's like it's like
to stop seizures, and it's supposed to be for anxiety.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
They're pushing it on everyone. Really, Yeah, it's like yeah,
maybe no, I don't know the name of it, but
all Beata Brothers do is just like preventing sweating and
just like stuttered speech from nerves. Like it's just keeping
your blood pressure down and making it so you don't like,
you know, when you're on stage and somebody will hold
something and you can.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
And your hands back.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
It like stops you from that, and that's a car
I love it.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
I've just been white knuckling live performances, but I.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
Like that feeling.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
I feel like you're great at life.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
No, I love.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
It because I know I'm gonna get past it, and
then I feel like it's like a rollercoaster ride and
once I get that first laugh or once I get
right through it, it's like, Okay, I'm in the pocket.
I got you now. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
I love breaking through the other side of that I feel.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
But sometimes I'll be like genuinely not even feeling nervous
or being or secure about what's.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Happening, right, but it's just your body.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
But I'm like, why can't I just help.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yes, it helps the physical that has happened to me before.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I shouldn't where I was like, and you can't show weakness,
and so if you are, And it was a producer
session and I was I felt very confident in the material,
my jokes, everything, but my hands were like yeah, yeah,
and that's such a tell. You know, you can't give
any weakness in this business. Maybe I will just have
them on hand just in case performer should.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Have that or lean into just being confusing. At least
he put me onto the forty eight Laws of Power.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
So I've been reading that lately. It's the most successful book.
I don't tell anyone about the secret.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
No, it's not don't tell you read it. It's flag
if you've read it, Like it is a book. It's
a book. You're not supposed to tell people you've read that.
I give you a date and someone is like, what's
your favorite books of Power's a huge red happened to sting.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
The books they've read in general, that's a fucking red
flag and that's weird.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
Show and be like I read and ship.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
There is a cultural feeling about like if you power
like people will just be as we all read it.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
We just don't.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
We just don't admit that we read. That's fucking dumb.
That's dumb.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
It's of the laws.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
One of the laws is you don't talk about it.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
That's stupid.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
I didn't get to that, Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
So the point is you read fight Club.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
I read fight Club, and then maybe, uh, that could
be a way to then confuse people by being like,
I'm gonna be I'm gonna be so shaky and weird.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
I'm gonna let it run rampant in me.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
And then I'll just start saying whatever nonsense comes out
of my mouth because I am nervous and just letting
it and then just be like just be like yeah,
And then that's how you reclaim power and you don't
show that you have fear by.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Just being confusing, be shaky, but then also be like,
and what's that weather like today?
Speaker 4 (41:55):
So you were saying like you can't let them see
see you sweat or show fear.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
I'm saying, lean into it. Be as scared as you can.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Well it disarms them.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
Yeah, Be be frightened, be so frightened that they're frightened. Yeah,
and be like, are we saying I don't know I'm
just trying ship. Nothing matters anymore.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Is that a blackjack table? Once I went to the
table of all men and I was like so nervous.
I was like, I don't I've never played black jack,
Like I you're right, But I laid in on the
like I'm nervous, and all these guys were like take
a chip, like oh this is And I ended up
getting like a bunch of chips and I fucking left
the table with not a lot of money. I put
(42:35):
in fifty. I left with two hundred, so I didn't
lose any and I had gained and a lot of
those chips were these guys who felt sorry for me,
and then they were like, wow, you're actually doing really well.
And it was fucking fantastic because I let I let
their guard down and.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
You got all the chips and they were like, you're
at sixty hit me, hit me, yeah, They're like twice
they hit me.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
They were like, oh wow, I did learned so fast.
But you came over and you were like my boobs shake,
Oh yeah. I was like my boot crowd.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
So the nerves, letting the nerves think, letting them think.
But you're right, that is a different thing. But like nerve,
that's a genius.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
That's what you said was smart, What I said was crazy.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
That's that's not I would put in my arsenal because
I go to I can see you doing that actually
very well.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
See, I'm a crafts flare. And I actually like to
be at the table by myself because if I get
one solid hour, I'm gonna triple my money at least.
I never watch without at least a month's rent. And
I like to play alone. And the key to gambling.
The way you win is you leave. Yeah, when you're up.
When you leave, you don't start having fun, which it's
(43:42):
over once you get get you hit it, you hit it,
you hit it, you hit it? Do I say no.
My daddy taught me how to play crops when I
was sixteen on cruise boats. Cruise boats, okay, don't play
the field like favorite numbers are hard.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
My mom is also like obsessed with gambling.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
I'm so overwhelmed by gambling.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Well I would.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Two years ago, maybe one for the first time ever,
hated it Vegas dark sided.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
We've talked about this before. I don't like it. Psychics,
gargoyles don't like it. Dark energy she's not a Christian.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
But I was walking through through the casino, was overwhelmed
by all the games. I see numbers, I see any
type of strategy. I have no fucking poker face. I'm
just like if I if I'm confused, I'm not only
looking confused.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
I'm telling you, Hey, I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
We're gonna plan a Vegas trip and you're going to
cancel on us?
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yeah, are you gonna cancel?
Speaker 5 (44:34):
Maybe? I don't know. Here's the thing. I will go.
I will go if there is I've told myself I
will go back if.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
I know exactly, like if we're staying in the same building,
I don't I'm not trying to like move.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Oh yeah, that's the last time I went.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Last time I went, I went last minute with a
group of gays to see Katie perrycam. I was like,
she's performed at absolutely she's the queen scammer. But ultimately
I was like, it was a for a friend's birthday thing,
and I was like, Okay, we'll go.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
We got like an airbnb. It was cute.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
We had a good time together and I like took
some shrooms. Saw Katy Perry and I was like, this
is crazy. She finished the concert with my attempting to
sing the Greatest Love of All.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
It was wild. I was like, oh all right, it was.
It was intense.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
But then we were wandering and it was the same
weekend as the f one raised, so it was a
nightmare get to it was like really like but it
felt like, uh, just quintessential heterosexual repression where they're like
only allowed to have fun and express ourselves and be
freaks on this one weekend where we get blackout drunk
(45:41):
and just beat debaucherous in the most like insane kind
of destructive ways, when instead you could just have fun
in your everyday life and like maybe once a once
a week go out to like a fun bar.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Or like it's like I got away from my family.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
Yeah, it's the same reason people like go nuts at weddings,
where it's like, oh, because this is the one weekend
that you go out every three years, you.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Know, single person, as a single person who is like
living in a city and like doing what you wanted
wants to do. I find it so relaxing because no
one's telling me stop gambling, stop having drink.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (46:20):
Telling me?
Speaker 2 (46:23):
No one says Mary, get every day.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
Wa up, Mary, you gotta stop gambling. And I'm like, you.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Gotta get the out of here inside. I don't even
like smoking the way I was chain smoking.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Inside and they purify the air to keep you awake
longer and you'll never see a clock.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
Yeah, it's like being on Bat Girls Club. They're just
they don't tell you the time they used to be drunk.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Elevator and someone was like, Okay, you can't do that for.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
Hours hours, But they're You're a power and a confidence.
Speaker 5 (47:03):
Is there anything that you want to tell the people
about you want to plug the watch? You got a
million things going on and you have.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
A lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Sure. I mean, if you have Hulu stream going Dutch
and Scam Goddess on Hulu, very fun shows, very different,
but they do have one thing in comment. So watch
both and you'll find out what the treasure hunt and
it's not just me. And then my book is available
everywhere Scam Goddess online book retailers. If they're still out there.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
By the time this comes out, please I hope there's still.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
I hope except for that secret book none of us
have ever read. And then if you want to follow
me on Socials d I B A L A c
I DBA Lacey on all platforms, and you can listen
to my podcast Scam Goddess if you like comedy and
learning about scam Scam Goddess anywhere you listen to podcasts. Yeah,
that was the longest plug out.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
You get your pro that's great.
Speaker 5 (47:53):
You were on fire
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Rest
Someone's like touchgrass online and be like, oh, you've got
money for that. You got touch grass money.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I can't just touch grass.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Yeah, hello, welcome back to cancel your plans.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
It is season two, baby. Wow, so much has changed,
So much has changed.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's been like four months since we've been in the studio.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Yeah, it's been four months. It's a new year. We've
got kind of a new setup going on here. You
may notice that we're at a table instead of in
the living room.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Yeah, as is our.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Right, this is our home.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
It had nothing to do with the fact that sitting
on the couch for an extending amount of time was
starting to hurt my back, even though I'm only nineteen right.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Famously, we're nineteen and twenty oneteen twenty one years old.
Now drink at a bar. It's exciting.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
But yeah, now we're back. Happy new Year.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
It's happy New Year.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
We haven't recorded since December.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, so it's been four months.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Four months.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Oh, that's crazy. So much has happened in the world.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
So much has happened. Most important of all, I got bangs.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You got bangs, and then you got rid of the banks.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
And I got rid of the bangs.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
We're excited. We're so psyched. We have a really exciting
season planned.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And we have a lot of insanely funny guests coming
for season two, which we're so excited.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
We're super psyched.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Just to sort of kick things off and say, hello,
I guess Mary, I'm curious, what plans have you canceled
this week?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Weirdly, it actually happened this morning. Kyle and I love
to get together before recording and just like have a coffee,
talk to each We just really enjoy each other's company
and we like we like to hold hands. We also
like to be early to things, which is a rarity
in Los Angeles, but we like to be early. We
don't want to be rushed. Right this morning, I woke up,
(01:51):
got ready, I had plenty of time. I was feeling
this so relaxed. I get in the car and I'm like,
twenty minutes for the studio. Easy, it's the La Marathon today. Okay,
they closed off essentially every road.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Mary text me and she's like, I'm walking.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I can't get here in time. I'm walking, and I said,
you're crazy. I'm going to come scoop you. So it
was an emergency mission and I was able to pick
you up on something I had to abort.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I had to leave the car somewhere and I had
to abort the mission and.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
The car was still running. It was left in the
middle of the road, right in the middle of the road.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
It was running over marathoners as.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
I tucked and rolled. But we're here. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I canceled my plans to be early to this, but
it actually worked out.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I was able to get a macha. Oh good for you,
And I didn't feel as rushed as I thought I
would given the situation.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
But you look calm and collected.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, I'm able to put that behind me. And you
know what, maybe consider canceling the La Marathon next year.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
I don't know, we don't need it. Why are you
running outside?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, it's Sunday.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
You should be sleeping tread mills. And you know all
those people have pelotons. There is no way that they
don't get cardio in every day.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
I don't know. Why would you pay for that anyway?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Anyways, Kyle, what did you cancel on this?
Speaker 5 (03:03):
When I cancel, I wrote it down.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Oh, oh nice.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
So I canceled on pretty much accomplishing anything that I
plan to do this week. And instead I took the
time to to re attempt watching the six hour long
Beatles documentary Get Back.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
When they're in the studio time, they're just jamming.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Yeah, it's fun. It's not that boring. It gets over.
It doesn't need to be six hours long. Yeah, yes,
I think.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I don't know, because I think that they're here's the thing, Okay,
it exists because solely for the purpose of being, like,
what would it be like to be in the studio
with the Beatles for three weeks?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
For three weeks? Exactly?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
What did it actually feel like?
Speaker 5 (03:43):
It feels very much like a fly. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
It is cool to watch like them jam their their
dynamics and then to watch to watch them just be
like noodling around a guitar on a guitar, and then
watch Paul be able to just like make get back
out of the ether and be I know that.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Yeah, but kind of bicker.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I liked their bickering.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
I like the bicker yeah yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
The style it was a very like it's like a
time capsule style.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
And I just I don't know, I just that was
pretty much me uh, neglecting any and all responsibilities just
to sort of watch guys being dudes.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Okay, but how does it feel to cancel your plans
to be productive bad while watching a bunch of really
wealthy artists not cancel their plans and get in the
studio And you know, not to shame you, I'm just saying,
like the juxtaposition.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, first of all, actually, you know what what makes
me feel like I'm being productive?
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Especially?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
This is why I love like, I don't know, like
Showbiz Ducks or even sports Dosa story Well no, not that,
but like you know, I get I really get off
watching the each you Hollywood story of j Low.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
I don't know what that one was always playing.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
By the way, did you ever notice that when that was.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Anyway, that wasn't the one for me. Mine was always
like really dark one I like or something.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Thanks was good anyway.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
So the point is I like those documentaries and I
don't feel guilty about canceling my plans to do anything
else and get sucked into that world because I'm like,
well this is.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Research fair a famously a recording artist.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
I'm famously recording artist.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I'm a pop star, but dish, yeah, I'm a British
pop star, but I just I don't know, I feel
like when I'm watching really like successful and talented people
just like do their thing.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
There is a sick part of my ego.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
When there's a sick part of my ego that's sitting
back and watching and going.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Yeah, I'm taking notes right now. Yeah, we're peers.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
We're peers, We're on the same level.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I'm sitting there going, I'm sitting there with my hand
down my pants, just like scratching my ass watching Paul
McCartney come up, come up with fucking get back, and
I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I understand being an influenced day And it's not totally
It couldn't be further from the truth.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Do you feel accomplished, like as if you had created
a song after watching it?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I feel accomplished at all times, especially when I have
no right to feel it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, that's honestly, when I mostly feel accomplished. That's how
I feel about true crime docs. Like I'll watch it
and I go I solved that, I saved a grieving family,
I found a missing child, like I did it. Yeah,
and I can sit back and relax the us the
night because I solved this mystery.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
We're sitting there and we're taking in the information, doing.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Nothing and going sitting with their hands in her.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Pants, hands in our parents, going I helped.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
That's pretty much what I canceled on this week. We
have an incredible guest.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Here with us.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yes, I'm so excited.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
We're thrilled to have Lacy mostly here. Very funny and uh,
stay tuned. We're going to talk to her.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
A dear friend at the pod and a long awaited guest.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Long waited guest, And we're excited. Yeah, thanks for coming
back for season two.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, thanks, thanks for not canceling on us.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah, we're excited.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
It's a new era, it's a new dawn, it's a
new day, and it's a new life for me.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
For me, and I'm feeling fine, fine, I'm feeling good.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Feel all right.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Today we are joined by a Hollywood engenue starlet of
the stage and screen. You may know her from many
television programs, most recently Fox Is Going Dutch Who, but
you definitely know her from her wildly successful podcast, Scam Goddess,
her wildly successful book, Scam Goddess, and her wildly successful
(07:44):
television show now streaming on Hulu, Scam Goddess. She is
a true triple threat in the sense that you are
three times more likely to die if she's behind the
wheel of a car. Lacy, welcome to canceling your plans.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Thank you for having me. Oh my goodness. I first
of all, I feel like, you know, used to be
like a theatrical term, and now I feel like it's
just for the gays. We've just taken it. I don't
ever hear anyone in Hollywood be like young, Like it's.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Definitely just pills this morning, and I'm ready to rocky
look at me.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, just let me as you are though, like you're yeah,
you've got that, You've got that old Hollywood quality.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
That's our quality. With quality, is that the one with
the cigarettes and.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Beta mean, yeah, they're like, come on, take this, keep dancing,
keep dancing.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, but it's the eating.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
We talked about this before. But it's like the show
must go on, like I will. I will be there
and I'm going to show up and I'm going to
show out like I'm going to do it.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Kyle knows. Kyle is a co executive producer on Scam Got,
the television show, so he knows the do you want.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
To get into it?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
The show must go on must go on?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Well, I mean now that we're I mean we're talking
about it already. Is it's just you are so incredibly busy. Yeah,
and you're she's booked all the time, she's blessed, and
she's giving one hundred percent all the time a lot.
So when it comes to canceling plans, what is your
personal relationship to being like pump the brakes, I'm out
of here, or are you like, yes, what time?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Well am I supposed to be there?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
That's hard Honestly, lately it's kind of been like I
just don't make plans socially, just so I don't have
to worry about canceling them, which I realized was a problem.
So I was like, you can't put like life can't
be just work, And that was like right where I
was for a strong two years.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
And when you say not making plans at all, like
like genuinely not making plans, or just saying no to plans.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Generally not making a lot of plans, or like if
I want to go on vacation, I'm like I as
soon as it's like the age all, as soon as
you book a flight, you will book a job and
it will be something yeah, she had turned down. Yeah,
or you're like, oh, I have some free time coming up,
like right after we finished Scam Goddess and then I
think like once we were like we were in post
production and six days later I was in Ireland. Six
(10:12):
days from the last day of shooting U Scam Goddess
in Seattle, I was in Ireland. That's crazy. And there
was no like, oh, I know, I'm going to Ireland.
Beforehand it was like maybe, and then it was like definitely.
So yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Insane, like the norm like a normal person doesn't ever
experience that in their lives.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I mean, I don't know. There's a lot of people.
I don't know what to pategraz as normal. I'd hardly
call it normal normal to die. But the girls be
out here taking vacations and going places. Yeah, and I'm like, oh,
like every time I want to go, Like I was
gonna go meet my friends in France and then we're
gonna go to Budapest to see another friend who was
shooting and then have my flights booked. I was so
(10:51):
excited booked a job, and my agents at the time
called me and were like, yeah, so you booked it.
We told him you going to do it, so, yeah,
go ahead and cancel that flight. And I was like,
how are you not?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, so your agents are telling you to cancel your flights.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
So we're trying to kill you. You cancel.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
These aren't my agents now, but at whole time they were,
and they were.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Like, good news, good news, you're dead.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Jesus.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
That was a recurring theme for I feel like the
majority of us of our time filming the show, but
even like leading up to the show, there's you.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Had a lot going on work wise, and it's just
we kept on coming back.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
You know that clip of Miley Cyrus during the Banger's
tour when she's like, they tried to.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Kill me, to kill your favorite bitch.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
She just kept on saying that out loud, just like
like they're trying.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
To kill me.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
They're trying to v Because Kyle would be in different
meetings while I'm either like getting ready or getting up
your stuff. So he's like in another meeting and he's like,
they're trying to kill us, and I'm like, they're trying
to kill your favorite. And it's like not like in
in a negative way, it was just like it would
always be like some when we were doing Scam Goddess,
which is a television show where we kind of expand
upon my podcast, but we take a show about U scams, frauds, robberies,
(12:08):
like things like that, and we go to the cities
where each of them happened, like really famous scams, and
we interviewed people there and we got we got to
know the town.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
We like.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Kyle pitched up an amazing show.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
By the way, I like, it's you on the horse
like us.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Tricksy, Fuck Tricksy, Tricksy. I could tell, you could.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Tell like there was something going on between you and Tricksy.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
It was.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It's such a funny show.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I fucking love it.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I hope everyone's watched.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Trixy was the biggest deep of the show. I'm always
gonna talk about her. During the press tour, I refuse
to take photos with her on the carpet.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Everyone, everyone on the carpet.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Everyone unfollowed Tricksy. Right after the show, the trick came out,
she was a diva.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
With flooding Reddit threads with bots being like Tricksy.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I have people making TikTok about Tricksy. No, it was
fully We're admitting to it.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
We're burying her.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
We are we're gonna kill her. Because there were points
where Tricksie was like one a young horse so did
not want to do anything that I was saying. And
I had told like other people on our production team,
like yeah, I can ride a horse. I've ridden horses
like through childhood, Like okay, you know whatever, familiar like
a questronaut exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
A question not.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Meaning I only eat horse, yes, but speaking of a
true And she was like, I'm young, it's show biz.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Let me just tap dance all over this poor woman
who's trying to ride me.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
And like so the first time we were riding her,
like when she was actually behaving, they had me riding
in a circle for so long that Trixie got tired
of it and so she could see her friends in
the stable. So eventually she wouldn't let me guide her.
She just kept going back to the stable to try
to hang out with her friends. And I was like,
not seriously, And it got to the point by the
(14:01):
end I had to like get off and just like
kind of walk with her. But I was determined to
ride Tricksy. Okay, is there a word like you know
how bitch means dog? Like I know, marriage sounds too
nice for male horse, right, horse bitch.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Too nice a word. This is a horse, bitch.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
You were determined to team that.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, remember we brought horse bitch back and this this diva,
this diva had the nerves. Remember remember you know exactly
what I'm gonna say. She fucking needed a friend to
come with her. So when we brought her to the
actual city of Dixon to shoot, yeah, she pulled up
(14:41):
with a fucking.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Entourage that was in her rider that she had to
have other horses with her.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Everyone that was on our team had a specific purpose.
Like Kyle was producing, Trey was styling, Alexander was doing
my hair, Carly Price was doing makeup. All of our
team everyone had a special purpose and they would joke
and call us the entourage mean while bitch horse tricksy.
I literally brought a friend that was never on camera
to relax her for emotional.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Support, emotional support. The horse had an emotional support.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yes, the horse had an emotional So I'm looking at.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
This episode at a completely different like lens. This was
about Trixy. This wasn't This wasn't about that scam, even
though that was an incredible scamp, Like millions of dollars
messed up.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
But yeah, honestly, I like to think that that horse
was her acting coach. You know, the actors have like
an overbearing acting coach. That's just like I have to
discuss with me.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
In a moment. We're going to be five, okay.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
So like when you go in there, I want you
to bite the ship.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Out of her. Tricksie stepped on me.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yes, And when a horse steps on you, like that's heavy,
that's no, No, it was not hurt. For a week,
she didn't bite you, did she.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
She tried, She tried, she tried.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
But Lacy, being the professional that she is, didn't say
this horse just stepped on me.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
She said, we're going to get the shot on getting
on this horse.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, I kept So you didn't cancel on your plans
to ride a horse into the trail that show.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
No, And like you know, after Tricksy's acting coach, you know,
because like we're in front of the statue of Ronald Reagan,
who's also on a horse.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Which, by the way, the statue had like a wet
t shirt.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
On so you could see his as nasty. I never
thought of Donald Reagan with abs. I don't think of
him much.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Of a Why is he wet on a horse?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
People are really horny for them him there and that's
where he's from, right yeah, okay, right right, yes, So
they're like they got a Reagan street, they got a
Reagan run, they get If you watch the episode, you'll
see there's so much, way more Reagan than you would think.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
I think that we cut back on. We were like,
there's too much Reagan to.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Tell the story. But Reagan just keeps showing up and
he's dead. How was he in so many frames?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Ye?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, but so I guess I'm canceling my plans in that,
like I've never been. I can have a Diva moment,
but it's more dramatic and like I'm sure Kyle will
get into one in a moment, but it's never it's
never in like a professional set. If it's like the
Horst step on me, but we're mid frame, like or
we're like you're gonna shot. I'm like, we're gonna get
(17:05):
the shot. You're not even gonna know that I got
stepped on, Like we're gonna just I'm just gonna like, yeah,
tricks it all right, Like.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
You know, I'm not gonna like built your brand yourself,
like you built it from the ground up, just you.
So you're like, oh, no, I'm doing this because it's
my thing and I built this.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
And also just like maybe I'm a bit of a
glutton for punishment. I had to really learn that in
the acting industry, like people will let you die. That
was That was a big lesson. I got thrown into
the Pacific Ocean on my first serious, regular job, Florida Girls.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Which I love.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I'm so sad that we never got to shoots.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
So funny, it's just specific.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
You guys didn't film in Florida.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So we did, but we shot the initial pilot presentation
it partly in Long Beach and partly just in Los Angeles, Okay.
And so I remember like that crew, like they're lovely people,
but you know, when something's like a little lower budget,
you know, get what you pay for. Everyone was wonderful,
But I remember a moment like like we're supposed to
(18:06):
steal a jet ski and there's four of us on
this jet ski. There's no such thing as a four
person jet ski.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
There's barely like a one person judge.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So we're all getting on and it's like fuck girl,
and like and then someone's yelling after us. It's like
the end of the pot. And it was like, you bitches,
bring back my jet ski and so we're just supposed
to like ride off into the ocean on this jet ski.
You know, we're so fun loving Yeah, And right before
we shot that scene, I kept remembering people just like
casually coming up to me in production and never in
(18:35):
any formal capacity, not like a sit down, not like
a safety meeting, but just being like you could swim, right,
And I was like yeah, but there was no like
we were not supposed to get wet, and we were
not wearing life vests, like we were going into the
ocean like so far out there presentation this is yeah,
like drone shots and so far out that the life
(18:55):
guards that they had for us had to be out
of frame of the shots, so they had to be
kind of like a little further away, and so people
would just walk I would like leave my trailer like
just getting fitted, you know, or putting my wardrobe on,
and then somebody else would walk by and be like
strong swimmer, yeah, just.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
To you, not the other girls.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I don't know if they were doing it. To everyone else.
But yeah, I just I just kept noticing it, and
I was like, oh my god, I'm gonna fall in
the ocean. I'm gonna fall in ocean. And at the
time I wasn't a super strong swimmer. I could swim,
but I eventually took swimming lessons after to feel more comfortable,
but I still don't work with ocean.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, this traumatized you.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I mean anything that's ruled by the moon, Like, I'm
not getting that bitch, even.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
The strongest the swimmers, we have no business being down there.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
No what if I was supposed to be there, I'd
have gills right.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I respect it. I will get right next to take
a picture and be like, look at it behind me.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
You don't know what I mean, what creatures beneath. I
have a question about adult swimming lessons now. Is it
(20:11):
just all grown ups there or were you like floating
with the children?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Okay, I couldn't bear to sign up for a class
because that was my fear that I was going to
be this big grown lady and everyone else is doing
like tease pony water wings, like they're throwing the babies
in and then they have to chuck my big ass.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
And where they throw the babies.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
And they're fine.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Because it's natural for them in the beginning. But that's
what I imagined, like signing up for like a class
of the y would be, is like they throw all
the babies in and then they throw me in something.
I'm like holding the other babies down for air. So
I was like, no, no, no, I don't want to do that. Actually,
you probably both know her. I know you do, Kima. I.
(21:00):
I rented out a you can go of course, so
La in La you can rent out lawn space if
you don't have a lawn for your dog, like to
just let your dog have like a yard. Like there's
a website just this is so millennial. This will never
own homes, so you can't. Yeah, in a lawn. You
can also rent a pool for a few hours.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
It charged by blade of grass. What the fuck the droppings.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
It was depressing when I heard about the rent a
lawn and and the way that I heard about it
was sad because my friend was like, oh, yeah, you know,
we're in the apartment complex, but there's this great place.
But you can rent a backyard.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
We're really grass did rent backyard birthday.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
It's like an event, but like just to be like,
I want to touch grass and you have to pay
fifty dollars.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
That's crazy for all of you out there. Great clap back.
If you live in a city and someone's like touch
grass online, be like, oh you've got money for that.
You got touch grass.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I can't just touch grass?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah I can.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Will We can't just be touching grass at home.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
So okay, So Kim, you taught me in a pool.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
So you rented a pool so you'd have privacy.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Wow, So it sounds like professionally lazy. You don't cancel no,
you say yes.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, I'm very much yes, And I think I took
a way too far. Yeah, well lazy.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
There's a section of the show where we take some
viewer mail and way in on, way on, way in
on their tales of cancelation.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
They may be taking advice, maybe seeking advice.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah, all that all that jazz one was sent in
that I thought was really fun and I thought that
you would have a strong opinion on. So this is
from a listener and it goes as follows. For my
thirtieth birthday month, my month month, to know exactly who
you are, we know exactly what we are.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I'm not judging though, Yeah, we know that's logical.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Sign you are.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
My boyfriend and I had plans to rent a cabin
in Big Bear nice Jacuzzie smoked some joints in the
mountains in the snow.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Quarious.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, you're so right.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
I booked and paid for everything about four to five
days before he tells me he got booked for Central
casting for one of those days and could not afford
to go on.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
The trip at all.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
I was really sad about it and begged him for
a while, even telling him I would pay him what
Central casting would so pathetic.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
For our listeners. Central casting is like background acting. You
don't make a lot, and it's it's hard.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
But I would not ditch my girlfriend for.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
A yeah yeah yeah, So they offered to pay him
with Central casting would so pathetic. Anyway, I was able
to refund the trip entirely, but it was a bummer. Wow,
they feel about so they called themselves pathetic. They said
I'll pay your.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Money because I'm pathetic to do this.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I don't think that's pathetic, but I will say, reading
between the lines, there seems like a lot going on here. Yeah, Hey,
you're one of those birthday month people. So maybe you
had a lot more birthday plans, maybe on your actual birthday,
and your part getting was like I need this eighty
five dollars. How about we do this?
Speaker 1 (24:05):
True?
Speaker 5 (24:05):
How about I do this instead? But I think you
gotta go.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I think you got you gotta exit and leave and depart,
and it's definitely time to you know, ski daddle because Okay,
here's my thing, even if because I have an Aquarius
friend who's a birthday month person, but it's not for
some reason, there are some obnoxious people who are like, okay,
we got brunch, we got lunch, we got dinner, we
got we got a party, We're going to the discotheca.
(24:31):
Everybody just gotta throw in for the ecstasy, like you know,
like those people. And it's like those people are insufferable
because they want you to pay for they like the
check comes and it's not just taken care of. It's
like who got for mimosas? Who got the waffle? Who
got you know? And I'm like, no, no, we're not
doing it. That is what that's a connotation with birthday month.
(24:53):
But I do have a friend who's like a birthday
month person, where it's like, oh, it's maybe we have
different little things throughout the month. Aren't actually on my birthday,
but like, hey, if y'all want to come, this set
of friends comes to the park and hangs out with
me at the park and we have a picnic. This
set of friends goes, you know, down to Malibuu. I'm
speaking of one person specifically, but it's like, goes down
to Malibuu and we party with all of the gays
(25:14):
that didn't kill Jennifer Coolidge in the White Lotus and
we party to the break of dawn. Yeah, and you know,
there might be little things in between, but it doesn't
it doesn't feel like forced. If this is a you
and your man's y'all go into the mountains and you're
gonna smoke weed and do each other, that's like the
whole weekend is just doing weed and each.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Other and each other.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, you know, I'm definitely with that image on the internet.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
And by the way, this was also a very small.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Pis small pins.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
That's what it was like. If you if your man
is gonna take eighty five dollars over a free trip,
and it's not like he is in a serving position,
like we've waited tables like, let's say you can't get
someone to cover your show totally. That's completely different because
you could technically lose your whole job and livelihood. Yeah,
if you don't go to work, but if it's a
(26:13):
Central Casting where you clicked on it and it was
like mails between the age of eighteen and thirty five,
you'll own a gray Honda Accord eighty five.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
And also like listen, you're not going to be discovered.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
On this investigation discovery show of I didn't know that
my neighbor was a killer clown.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
And it's not a lot of money that you're saying
no to because a restaurant shift you're saying no to
like three hundred bucks possibly, But you know, central casting,
it doesn't you know, you don't make a ton. It
depends on the pre.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
And it's like less tax too, And if he's in sad,
he's making more than the eighty five dollars. But even
that at most, like I mean, you could get I
mean time and halfway one eighty five two hundred.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
This person clearly doesn't mean a lot to them.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah, I do think it's it's signal to find how
they feel about the relationship.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
I get it. It is hard out here, is money
is tight.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Eggs are a trillion dollars. So if you if you're like,
how am I going to have breakfast this week? I
need to take the central casting booking. But also like,
if you're trying to build something, especially in entertainment, you
got to have a life at home. And how you're
going to have a life at home if you're bailing
on a trip a few days beforehand?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Five days?
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Right, he has like five days beforehand and they paid
for the whole thing anyway, right, the girlfriend paid?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, whoever?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
See that was my first flag. Is like bibs. Even
if it's just like you, I have paid for trips
with friends and family, and you know, I love to
pay for a big ass party or something. But in
this particular instance when she described the relationship, this is
giving me like man who doesn't want to be alone
(27:52):
and woman who is invested in a relationship, and y'all
are on two different paths. There are some people. There's
some men who and women too, who are like always
going to have a boyfriend or a girlfriend. I never
see them. It's like it's like if you saw like
an affinity straw, Like I don't know, like just like
a bottomless cup of relationship. It's like wild my mouth
always on a straw and then it's never running out,
(28:14):
there's no break between, never had I know.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
They're constantly down there now.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Serial monogamous.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
This is a straw.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Okay, they're all straws now.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
It was like it was a it was a it
was all a straw all along. It was never a
weed and it was never a pain ever. It was
always just a really straw that just goes on for.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Yes, we see those people all the time. You're like,
you really are a cereal monogamous.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, and you're willing to put down cash to make this,
like to constantly be paying for your boyfriend, are constantly
paying for you.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
On her side, I feel like she's invested in the
relationship if a woman is coming out of some coin.
And that's probably why she said put that right, it's
like he's gonna you're not at all at all. Okay.
I hope my mom never sees this, because yes, I
have like paid for some things for like a man person.
I feel more comfortable doing it with women than I
(29:13):
do with men. Yes, And I remember he had gotten
comfortable and he wasn't even my boyfriend. I know, you know,
I know he got comfortable because he went to dinner
one time, and this is New York and it was
a nice restaurant. He ordered the like fifty four dollars
ribbi without blinking an eye, knowing that I was gonna
pay me.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, that was so fun.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And he was not fine. He was not fine enough
for that.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah, he was not emploid enough for that. Does that
when that happens.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
He was not red lobster enough for them. I was
so ashamed of myself. My grandma was just grave, just
spin it that my brand was kicking about the grave.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
No, are you like less likely to like want to
fuck them that night? And if he does something I
really want to, like, I have sex a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Okay, My question is in that moment.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
In that moment, let's say.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
The roles are reversed, The roles are reversed, and you're like, Okay,
this person has been very generous and I'm gonna I
want to order this kind of expensive thing.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
How how does someone go about being like is this okay?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Without being like, may I like sugar mom?
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Because I'm just I'm sure there is a hot, classy
way to do it. But because I'm inept in my mind,
I'd be like, my brain goes, show your belly go
please please, But like, how do you even like? Right,
I guess I'm asking for me if I haven't, if
I have a sugar daddy, take me out for this is.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
A learning thing, actually, I just want to know how
do you think the best way to approach that.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I think that if it depends on the age kind
of gap, because like if we were like similar ages,
So if I'm paying for stuff and we're similar ages,
In my mind, I'm not your sugar mama. Like you
might just be in a tough spot and I'm expecting
for you to like get out of that spot. But
this ain't no sugar in situation. I'm not sugaring the girls.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Your investment.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, you're an investment ye yeah, yeah, you better have returns,
which Okay, I want dividends.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
The Fidelity app every day.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Okay, it's giving carns and I need Fidelity yeah okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Investment, yes, okay,
I want Dow Jones. I want something that's been out ira. Yes,
I don't want like recycling the change off of your
coffee purchase as so, but anyway, like in a like
older situation where we know the benefits are like I'm
(31:45):
younger and I'm hot and I'm fun and you take
me places which I have done before, you like sugar baby.
Yeah in New York. Until I realized his name was Stuart,
there's no way he's but I did not know exactly
how old he was, and I remember being like cute
little hat girl dresses, and he would like take me
to Broadway plays and you take me to like all
(32:06):
these lovely restaurants. I never slept with Stuart. One time
I did have too much cocktail and he slipped me
a kiss and I was like, oh no, he's gonna
took us every time. I gotta get out of those.
But also we went to a restaurant where I looked
around and I realized that I think people thought I
was there a working girl there because of the age disparity.
I was like, oh, and when he told me his
(32:28):
age and meet my age at the time, I was like, Okay,
I have to stop this because it's not like my
Why did you meet Stuart? I was at the king
Kole Bar, which is where the girls go to pick
up the rich, richie oldies and so. But I was
actually there like with my homegirl, just hanging out because
I'm bougie. But so Stuart happened upon me, and then
I just started like, you know, I wanted to go
to see the I wanted to go see the brother.
(32:50):
Oh gosh, I can't even remember what was playing at
the time, and.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
I should someone in a long time, but.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
They'll come to me. But yeah, So if you're in
the situation where you're the same age and one of
you is just going through a little toughy tough time,
which I feel like is like the harder ask I
feel like, then you're just like, oh, oh babe, is
it crazy if I get the steak? Or is it
cool if I get the steak? Like that's it. I
don't think you have to be like is it is
it okay? It's please please miss the six friends. I
(33:27):
don't think you have to do all of That's like
I would feel icky and they would probably too. Yeah,
but you can be like, is it wild if I
get the robot? Or like should we chill and get
and offer another option or should we chill the night
and like just get like a little and this was salad.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
What are we thinking?
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Are we think thinking like have fun and enjoy our
time together or maybe this other thing that's not as.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Fun, or also you can offer up like you're gonna
like would they have a piece, like oh, I'm really
craving a ribby, but you don't want to get it.
You get it unless you want to have a little
bit of it. And then that gives them the opportunity
not to feel cheap either, because they can be like,
I don't not feeling that tonight, and then you can
kind of take that as your social cue of like
gone handed that chicken, Caesar. But if they're like, yeah,
(34:07):
let's do it, then you know you're kind of in
the safe zone. But he was just like, oh yeah,
the rabbi yet know in the biggest ouns, and.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I was like, oh, like the biggest ounds corny.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
But in the situation of our girls sugaring her probably
mutual sugar age person, I feel bad because she does
need to break up with him because that man is
not like her that it feels like that's somebody to
have and sleep with and and and spend time with.
And this has nothing to do with your value. Everyone's
not ever going to be not a cup of tea.
(34:39):
There's people that don't like my ass and that has
nothing to do with me. Sometimes I really love that.
I'll admit when it's meant. I was talking about some
suitors I told you about recently.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Damnyle, I didn't think we were going to air this out.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
You know what I have to go.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
I guess I'm trying to say this. I was team Tricksy.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Wow, that's.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Friends for almost a deck.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Chest never canceled on.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
You.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Guys have never canceled on each other as a friend,
not like it plans wise, just like on your friendship.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
And you've been through, We've been tested just producing a show,
like an ugly way, but in a way like you know,
I remember there was there was a moment I learned, okay,
to be fair. I learned this from the Kardashians.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
I'm so excited for this was this was great.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Kyle was like always in like production mode when I
would be in actress mode, so like we would work
together as producers. But then there would come a time
where Kyle would move into production mode and then I'm
getting my face painted or like getting fitted or whatever.
So I'm in the hotel room doing all this right,
and I'm so tired this morning. I'm so hungover. I
realized Martinez were not my thing. Ice giving up that lifestyle. Honestly,
(36:06):
I don't know if I'll ever.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Drink a kid.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I really just was like, Okay, this is we have
to find sure. Yeah, and I saw this episode of
Kardashians where this is years ago. Don't judge, I'll be
watching him no more.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I've seen every episode of Keeping.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I probably have to.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
No judging here.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
But so Chloe Kardashian like had to get up in
the night before they had been out partying. So she's
like laying in bed and the makeup artist is like
doing her makeup and so she's just laying while she's sleeping. Yes, okay,
incredible is made up. I'm fully dressed. It's nothing like inappropriate.
And I have a rapport with Carly my makeup artists
(36:45):
together personally before we were on the show. Professionally, I
brought her onto the show, okay, and she's excellent. So
I was like, I'm gonna try this today because we
have the makeup chair and everything. But I was like,
this is too erect.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
So I'm like laying in and you're like, I'm spinning
the rooms.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
The ring wasn't spinning.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Okay, it wasn't that bad.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I was just hired, so I'm not that's not professional
as hells. In my opinion, it wasn't. But it was
like I'm laying there like as much rest as I
can before, and so I'm like doing this and like
looking up and like like Carl's holding the light or
I'm holding the light or Trays holding the light. Cow
walks it on the.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Okay, on top of the sheets, in full, in full wardrobe,
jewelry on everything, truly like a corpse.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
There's a viewing in.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Progress, like yeah, that's what people do when they're yeah,
having her best jewels on.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
When we send her off, we want to remember her
like this.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Look up.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I'm like, your makeup artists could now do that for
like corpse.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Atam or And I'm like, what the fuck is going
on here?
Speaker 5 (37:47):
I go, Lacy, you get out of that damn bed
right now? And she goes. She rises like no Speranti out.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Of her.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
And it was like one of those moments when you
know you're caught. Yeah, I was trying something ridiculous and
get up right, now and I was like, it's so
sweet that your team was like, Yeahllysy will let you
like and.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Kyle just went no, but she but she was like
it was so funny because you knew you were caught
and you put up there was no.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Like you love that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah that was I tried it somewhere. Yeah,
it's not a thing I should have tried. Okay, yeah,
but for what it's worth, you did look gorgeous that
it was.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Honestly, may have done her best work unconscious.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
I was just resting my eyes.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
You're just resting.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
I take a lot of like show based stuff from
the Kardashians as well, from the many years of watching it,
and I now take beta blockers when I perform because
of Chloe, and Chloe Kardashian takes them.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
You love a beta blocker, you love.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I'm like, I'll be like, Chloe Kardashian taught me about
beta blockers and it's changed my life, Like as alive
for for what is?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I know what it is, but it's not the name
of one. Oh the drug itself is.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
It's like a muscle.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Relaxed that's like an intense no it's like it's like
to stop seizures, and it's supposed to be for anxiety.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
They're pushing it on everyone. Really, Yeah, it's like yeah,
maybe no, I don't know the name of it, but
all Beata Brothers do is just like preventing sweating and
just like stuttered speech from nerves. Like it's just keeping
your blood pressure down and making it so you don't like,
you know, when you're on stage and somebody will hold
something and you can.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
And your hands back.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
It like stops you from that, and that's a car
I love it.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
I've just been white knuckling live performances, but I.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
Like that feeling.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
I feel like you're great at life.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
No, I love.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
It because I know I'm gonna get past it, and
then I feel like it's like a rollercoaster ride and
once I get that first laugh or once I get
right through it, it's like, Okay, I'm in the pocket.
I got you now. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
I love breaking through the other side of that I feel.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
But sometimes I'll be like genuinely not even feeling nervous
or being or secure about what's.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Happening, right, but it's just your body.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
But I'm like, why can't I just help.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yes, it helps the physical that has happened to me before.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I shouldn't where I was like, and you can't show weakness,
and so if you are, And it was a producer
session and I was I felt very confident in the material,
my jokes, everything, but my hands were like yeah, yeah,
and that's such a tell. You know, you can't give
any weakness in this business. Maybe I will just have
them on hand just in case performer should.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Have that or lean into just being confusing. At least
he put me onto the forty eight Laws of Power.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
So I've been reading that lately. It's the most successful book.
I don't tell anyone about the secret.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
No, it's not don't tell you read it. It's flag
if you've read it, Like it is a book. It's
a book. You're not supposed to tell people you've read that.
I give you a date and someone is like, what's
your favorite books of Power's a huge red happened to sting.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
The books they've read in general, that's a fucking red
flag and that's weird.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
Show and be like I read and ship.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
There is a cultural feeling about like if you power
like people will just be as we all read it.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
We just don't.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
We just don't admit that we read. That's fucking dumb.
That's dumb.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
It's of the laws.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
One of the laws is you don't talk about it.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
That's stupid.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
I didn't get to that, Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
So the point is you read fight Club.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
I read fight Club, and then maybe, uh, that could
be a way to then confuse people by being like,
I'm gonna be I'm gonna be so shaky and weird.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
I'm gonna let it run rampant in me.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
And then I'll just start saying whatever nonsense comes out
of my mouth because I am nervous and just letting
it and then just be like just be like yeah,
And then that's how you reclaim power and you don't
show that you have fear by.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Just being confusing, be shaky, but then also be like,
and what's that weather like today?
Speaker 4 (41:55):
So you were saying like you can't let them see
see you sweat or show fear.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
I'm saying, lean into it. Be as scared as you can.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Well it disarms them.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
Yeah, Be be frightened, be so frightened that they're frightened. Yeah,
and be like, are we saying I don't know I'm
just trying ship. Nothing matters anymore.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Is that a blackjack table? Once I went to the
table of all men and I was like so nervous.
I was like, I don't I've never played black jack,
Like I you're right, But I laid in on the
like I'm nervous, and all these guys were like take
a chip, like oh this is And I ended up
getting like a bunch of chips and I fucking left
the table with not a lot of money. I put
(42:35):
in fifty. I left with two hundred, so I didn't
lose any and I had gained and a lot of
those chips were these guys who felt sorry for me,
and then they were like, wow, you're actually doing really well.
And it was fucking fantastic because I let I let
their guard down and.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
You got all the chips and they were like, you're
at sixty hit me, hit me, yeah, They're like twice
they hit me.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
They were like, oh wow, I did learned so fast.
But you came over and you were like my boobs shake,
Oh yeah. I was like my boot crowd.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
So the nerves, letting the nerves think, letting them think.
But you're right, that is a different thing. But like nerve,
that's a genius.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
That's what you said was smart, What I said was crazy.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
That's that's not I would put in my arsenal because
I go to I can see you doing that actually
very well.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
See, I'm a crafts flare. And I actually like to
be at the table by myself because if I get
one solid hour, I'm gonna triple my money at least.
I never watch without at least a month's rent. And
I like to play alone. And the key to gambling.
The way you win is you leave. Yeah, when you're up.
When you leave, you don't start having fun, which it's
(43:42):
over once you get get you hit it, you hit it,
you hit it, you hit it? Do I say no.
My daddy taught me how to play crops when I
was sixteen on cruise boats. Cruise boats, okay, don't play
the field like favorite numbers are hard.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
My mom is also like obsessed with gambling.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
I'm so overwhelmed by gambling.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Well I would.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Two years ago, maybe one for the first time ever,
hated it Vegas dark sided.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
We've talked about this before. I don't like it. Psychics,
gargoyles don't like it. Dark energy she's not a Christian.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
But I was walking through through the casino, was overwhelmed
by all the games. I see numbers, I see any
type of strategy. I have no fucking poker face. I'm
just like if I if I'm confused, I'm not only
looking confused.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
I'm telling you, Hey, I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
We're gonna plan a Vegas trip and you're going to
cancel on us?
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yeah, are you gonna cancel?
Speaker 5 (44:34):
Maybe? I don't know. Here's the thing. I will go.
I will go if there is I've told myself I
will go back if.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
I know exactly, like if we're staying in the same building,
I don't I'm not trying to like move.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Oh yeah, that's the last time I went.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Last time I went, I went last minute with a
group of gays to see Katie perrycam. I was like,
she's performed at absolutely she's the queen scammer. But ultimately
I was like, it was a for a friend's birthday thing,
and I was like, Okay, we'll go.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
We got like an airbnb. It was cute.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
We had a good time together and I like took
some shrooms. Saw Katy Perry and I was like, this
is crazy. She finished the concert with my attempting to
sing the Greatest Love of All.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
It was wild. I was like, oh all right, it was.
It was intense.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
But then we were wandering and it was the same
weekend as the f one raised, so it was a
nightmare get to it was like really like but it
felt like, uh, just quintessential heterosexual repression where they're like
only allowed to have fun and express ourselves and be
freaks on this one weekend where we get blackout drunk
(45:41):
and just beat debaucherous in the most like insane kind
of destructive ways, when instead you could just have fun
in your everyday life and like maybe once a once
a week go out to like a fun bar.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Or like it's like I got away from my family.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
Yeah, it's the same reason people like go nuts at weddings,
where it's like, oh, because this is the one weekend
that you go out every three years, you.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Know, single person, as a single person who is like
living in a city and like doing what you wanted
wants to do. I find it so relaxing because no
one's telling me stop gambling, stop having drink.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (46:20):
Telling me?
Speaker 2 (46:23):
No one says Mary, get every day.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
Wa up, Mary, you gotta stop gambling. And I'm like, you.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Gotta get the out of here inside. I don't even
like smoking the way I was chain smoking.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Inside and they purify the air to keep you awake
longer and you'll never see a clock.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
Yeah, it's like being on Bat Girls Club. They're just
they don't tell you the time they used to be drunk.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Elevator and someone was like, Okay, you can't do that for.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
Hours hours, But they're You're a power and a confidence.
Speaker 5 (47:03):
Is there anything that you want to tell the people
about you want to plug the watch? You got a
million things going on and you have.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
A lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Sure. I mean, if you have Hulu stream going Dutch
and Scam Goddess on Hulu, very fun shows, very different,
but they do have one thing in comment. So watch
both and you'll find out what the treasure hunt and
it's not just me. And then my book is available
everywhere Scam Goddess online book retailers. If they're still out there.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
By the time this comes out, please I hope there's still.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
I hope except for that secret book none of us
have ever read. And then if you want to follow
me on Socials d I B A L A c
I DBA Lacey on all platforms, and you can listen
to my podcast Scam Goddess if you like comedy and
learning about scam Scam Goddess anywhere you listen to podcasts. Yeah,
that was the longest plug out.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
You get your pro that's great.
Speaker 5 (47:53):
You were on fire
Speaker 3 (48:00):
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