April 25, 2025 • 44 mins
Mary & Kyle are joined by the stunningly beautiful and hilariously funny Taylor Misiak (Going Dutch, DAVE, Pillow Talking w/ Lil Dicky) to chat about her illustrious career, her distaste for a specific LA event, and why you should never ask her to “dip” from her wedding.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I told her this is what I said.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I said, We're not going to do anything that fun.
What if we end up.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Having a you know, I've already had a martini.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
She's going to be fun.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Oh, I'm going to be.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Welcome back to cancel your plans and Hi, Hi, Mary.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hi Kyle.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I canceled on a coworker, which is tough to do
because they are.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
With you towards the end of the.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Night, so they know they can like kind of read
on you. Okay, she had plans after this whatever, And
I just I just was very honest. I just said,
I have had a hard day. You've seen me at
my desk. It's been really tough.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
You've seen me.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
You have seen me at crying today, You've seen me imploding.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And I just I'm not going to be my best
self at this dinner. And I think I said to her, like,
I want to hang out, but I want to be
a better version of me.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You deserve better from.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Me, yeah, which I kind of hate when men say
that to me. You know, when guys break up with
you and they're like.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
But when it's a dinner thing, like with a friend
or a co worker, I think that's I'd be open
to hearing that.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, and I And then honestly she took it and
she was like, yeah, you're right, like I would, let's
let's do it on a wee weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
She's like, I agree, you suck right now, I'm gonna
try to hang out with you that I canceled a
plan to hop on a zoom real quick. Oh right,
because no, I will not be hopping on a zoom
real quick. You can tell me in three sentences over
an email and then we can proceed from there. Because
oftentimes someone's like, hey, can we hop on a zoom
real quick? And I'm like, what's it?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
What else it is about?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
It seems like you just kind of want to talk
for a half hour about something that could have been
an email. Most of the time, I guess I'm just
experiencing a lot of frustration about like where are we where,
what are we doing, where we're going, What's what's going
on here?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Societal expectations.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
It just like work.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Stuff, societal stuff. It's like I'm so fed up with like,
let's let's schedule a zoom call to have a conversation
about thinking about doing a thing. What are we doing? Yeah,
you get to send you get a Okay, so we're
gonna at now have a zoom call about maybe deciding
to maybe send an email to someone look off right,
just send me or just send me an email saying Hey,
(02:18):
I'm not ready to work on this thing yet. I
don't know. I guess I hear you, I'm done. What
are we doing hopping on a zoom call for for what?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Also, with the minute you said, hey, can we hop
on a zoom call?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Real quick?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I thought about like a pilgrim hearing that that sentence.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Being like can we hop on a zoom call?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Or can we hop on a zoom yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Like if okay, if I'm a pill if I'm like
a pilgrim and I'm hearing about the future, if I
hear let's hop on.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
A zoom zoom.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I think like maybe it's a crazy wagon that goes fast,
or like they don't know the word it's.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
A chariot to the heavens.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
But like zoom, yeah, you think it's like something that
you're Can we.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Talk about how how Skype.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Really really tanked.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Really fumbled right there? They for years it was like
you wanted to talk to someone's video shot. It was like,
let's Skype later and the second that everyone had to
be on the computer.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Where was Skype?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Where was Skype?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Because you would think that that business person they already
have their platform built, so why wouldn't they be like, Okay,
let's make it better. Why did Zoom take over?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
And Zoom was like not good? It's still like not great.
But like at the time Zoom, I was like, why
are we using Zoom?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Remember when people were like pranksters were hopping onto like
important zooms and like flashing.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, that was kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It was hilarious.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
But yeah, Skype really really yes, spe where'd you go?
Where are you now?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
But actually, but also like we're open for Skype to
sponsor this podcast though, if you want to have a rebrand.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, just we'll hop on a Zoom real quick and
talk about it. Skype.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Oh my god, just just Skype zoom.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Do people from Skype?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Oh yeah, I wonder what the mandate is internally if
they're like, if we catch a single one of you
fuckers zooming, they definitely use Zoom. Anyway, we have a
great show for you today. Taylor Mishak's here, a dear.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Dear friend of the pod and a long awaited guest
that we're so excited to grill.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
We're gonna grill her. We're gonna hold her feet of
the fire.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I'm gonna confront her.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Confront her about all the ship she's been talking out
here in these streets. Anyways, we're feeling loopy, we're feeling light,
We're feeling good.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That's Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Let's let's go.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Today's guest is an actress you may know from her
roles on Fox's Going Dutch fx Is Dave, and her
real life role as screaming woman in Eagles Jersey. Taylor Mishak.
Welcome to cancel your plan.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I'm so excited that you're here about It's about me.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So Taylor's an actress. Our first for our guests is
usually like, what is your relationship to socializing canceling plans?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Not canceling plans, you know, in preparation as a fan
of the pod, I've been thinking about this question, and
I agree with a lot of previous guests that for
the most part, it's something that offers relief and can
be not that big of a deal. While also I
experience anxiety when I'm canceling, But I think the thing
that's changed in the past few years is that I've
(05:28):
started to say no more to the things I don't
want to do, and that has lessened the times I've
had to cancel. Yeah, does that make sense? And sometimes
that can ruffle some feathers, you know, like, for example,
I live on the West Side. I'm sorry, Venice, I
live in Venice.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
That's the worst thing about me.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I'm sorry. It is the worst thing about you. It's
the worst thing about me. Everybody on the West Side
loves to go to this like event on Fridays in
the summer and they all act like it's fun and
I and get invited to it from people I love.
And for a while I would say I was going,
I would go, I would be miserable. And now I'm
just like, you know what, I hate pen Maar. It's
bad pen Mar pen mar.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I have ever even heard of it.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
You guys, because we don't go over there.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah. It's a golf course, beautiful golf course where they
sell you. Oh you're going to listen to live music
and you're going to meet all these cool people and
you could bring your own chairs and blankets and there's
wine and you mingle. You go, they confiscate everything you've
ever owned. They're like, no, you can't actually bring that chair,
and then they take all your stuff. The wine is
(06:35):
like forty five dollars a glass. People get there so early,
and they're all really hot, like Bachelor Nation esque, like
hot hot, hot, shoulder to shoulder. You're packed. It's usually muddy,
and the music is not that loud because it's in
like a residential neighborhood, but because people are hot and
they like to like they act like it's fun. Everybody's
(06:56):
acting like it's fun. They get the content and they
do and they get content.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
It's a scenie place.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
It's very it's very scene. And I was getting stressed out,
like trying to come up with reasons to not to
go without offending people by being like, oh that sucks though,
like it sucks. Yeah, it's a bad way fun. It's
not fun. But even getting there it's on like a
side road. It's not fun. And now I've felt so
much more release. Like our good friend Dina texted us
and was like, do you want to go to Penmar
(07:21):
And I was like no, cause it sucks, and that
is better to me than saying maybe yeah, and not
going am I yucking her young? Maybe?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Sure, but you're also being honest with your friend.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
And I feel like I've adopted that a little bit
now into oh, if it's you know, if it's just
something I don't want to do, I am more likely
to be like you know what, Philipop, I don't want
to But you know, I still get the normal sort
of stress about.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
But I think the older we get, I feel, yeah, like,
my godness, well here's what you brought up, an interesting
thing of like something being really SEENI this seems like
sort of a new phenomenon, at least in my brain.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I feel like things that were SEENI were annoying a
little bit, but they were still fun. But now they're
not even fun anymore. Y. Yeah, something like there's a
phenomenon occurring where now the thing that is like kind
of the scene to go to. It was annoying because
it had like kind of like douchey people there and
it was like, oh, whatever, it's too expensive, but you
(08:22):
still there was still an experience occurring, but now there's
not you just standing there.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
It's because I'm like fully Parker posy, and I don't
tolerate discomfort anymore the way I used to I used
to be okay with like it's even though it's shoulder
to shoulder, but people are hot and fun and I'm like,
I don't get I don't care, I can't, I don't I'm.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Not I got at home today, Kyle. What she's referring
to is in The White Lotus that Kyle famously doesn't watch,
Parker Posy had a beautiful monologue about how she's too
old to experience discomfort, and.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Parker Posey, what are you doing not watching?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I know, I just incredible. I love her, Parker. Please,
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Okay, So I do also think, don't you think that
there is the opposite where you know, part of like
the problem with society is that we're not okay with discomfort.
We're doing so much to make ourselves comfortable and then
like that that does like regress. That's not good for us.
But I just like, don't think me going, Penmark whatever,
going to like help society.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
It is on you to balance the scale.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
But Taylor, you also as a friend, I think this
is a funny thing about you is that you have
a lot of followers on socials because you are like
a well known actress. You're a successful actress. No, but
you have a ton of But you're not like an
influencer type like you have famously said that if you
could have your way, you wouldn't have social media at all.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Oh, I would adore it. I mean every time I've
gotten yet of one thing, it's been we lifted off
my shoes.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, you don't want to, you don't want to be
an influencer, So it makes sense that you're not drawn
to like an influencer type thing.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, And I think like now we all understand the
things that we enjoy and the things that we prioritize.
And I guess, like it's exactly what you just said
about the scene. Used to have a Jena se Quah
that was like fun to be a part of the scene.
And then we're older, we have more friends, like real friends.
We know what kind of how we want, and it's
(10:20):
just that that's lost. I don't need to be part
of the scene. And I like cool things. I go
to cool things. I went to the go to concerts.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I had Taylor's, I have Taylor's location, and sometimes I
like to look at, you know, where my friends are
at during the day. During the night anytime. I like
to see where my girls are and tell.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Either of you guys, have ever been anywhere? What's happened
to Taylor?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Taylor Like the other day was at the Kia Forum
and I was like going to touch, Like, why the
fuck you're at the Kia Forum. You didn't tell us, Like.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Because you're checking the location.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I'm watching her all over the world. And that was
a cool concert that I went to. The artist and
I liked the playing.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
At the Kapoor okay, And I didn't recognize the artists
deem and I get it's crazy that one of my
best friends is seeing an artist I don't even know
who exists.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
This is embarrassing. You should know Gareth Emory. He was
is a DJ who was that I was in and
I went to his show two years ago for my
birthday that.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
We all went to. Yes, okay it with him? Yes okay.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
But Mary is respecting a boundary that I put in
our relationship where when she said can I be on
fine my friends with you? I said, as long as
you never speak to me about it. So hence her
googling my whereabouts rather than texting me, I don't like
feeling watched. I don't like feeling watch same.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I know because I'm such a true crime person. One
time my friend was in Hawaii and she was my
friend Claire was like she had told me earlier in
the day she was going on a hike, but her
location was like in the middle of this like massive
national forest, not near where the hiking trail was. Her
location was like and you know what, like people's like
people's little guys like toggle and she was all over
(11:58):
tonation in this in this national park. And I just
was like picturing the true crime like beautiful woman gets
lost in in hike in Hawaii, and I was like
picturing the headline. So I called her twice.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
She didn't pick up.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Then I texted her and then she was like and
then like two hours later she was like, I'm so sorry,
like I had no service.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
She was sorry.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
She apologized to me, Mary.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
This is why we have big, thick boundaries on how
you used find my friends on my ass. If I
go on a hike and you call me four times.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
She's day, Well, so many women get kidnapped in hikes.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I'm not realizing that not once have you actually asked
for my location.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I've thought about it. Are you guys share a location?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, God bless you.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I thought about it a lot, Kyle.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Now I'm feeling some type of way about it, even
though I don't want you to have it. Now, I
want you to want to have.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Do you want to know why I haven't asked you why.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
This is vulnerable because we don't care about where I am.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
No, not at all. Okay, because you and I often
do a lot of work related things together. We do
a lot of like important like meat for disappointment, meet
for this, pitch, meet for this podcast, and I don't
want you to know I haven't left my house yet.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Oh, or if you meta cancel on him, you don't
want him to know it's actually because you're in bed
and not at a doctor's appointment or work.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, like, as my fellow pod hosts, I don't. I'm
afraid of what that could mean.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
But you also know that you could just tell me
the thing, and I genuinely won't.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I'm usually very honest with you.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
What I love about our friendship is that you'll just
stray be like I don't want to go.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, that's because.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Neither Back to the like being honest with your friends
about like that doesn't sound fun.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Which, again, in addition to saying no to things that
I just don't want to do, I do feel like,
for the most part, I'm making plans with people who
I feel comfortable enough to be like, ugh, girl, I
woke up today and I just can't do it.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
And if you're close enough with that person, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
But it comes up a lot with like work and
industry stuff and general you know, things that like those
are more like obligation type sayings, and those are a
bit harder. And that's I think where most of my
cancel my plan anxieties come from.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
But I feel like you, I feel you rarely canceled.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I rarely canceled. I can't remember the last professional thing
I canceled, but I can remember the last professional thing
that was canceled that I was like, thank god.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, oh, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
You know when people cancel socially on you about something,
When they cancel socially for something that you're excited about,
how do you handle that?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I think for the most part, I'm okay.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I really think so you're really selling it.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No, I'm really trying to. I mean, I know Mary
has bailed on my ass before, but I can't remember anything.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
You want to be mad about it?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Pretty good.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I think we're pretty good at being with each other.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, we've been.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Really thirsty for one of our close friends to come
on here and really be like, I know, I have
an extra grind with you about this.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I know, and I wanted to have an extra grind
with Mary. But lately, I mean she's been in a
kind of party girl phase the past couple of months
that has done a lot of like a lot of
pr work for her brand. Like she's really been go
on hard.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I'm party girl, She's with the people.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, you've been party girly.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I think it's because I work like a nine to
five job now, so like on the weekends. I was
trying to explain this to someone at a party, and
I think I like made myself sound crazy, but I
was like, I really needed.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
A blow off steam.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, but I got saturdays. I need to really just
like let out.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I gotta hunt someone for a sports yeah, because I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
So corporate throughout the week, I need to really like
let loose.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I totally get that.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, So I've definitely on Saturdays, I wanted to drink more.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I have a friend who uh is a very close
friend who lives really close by me and I have
I think that part of our love language to each
other is canceling on each other now and it's become
like part of our part of cute. It's really cute.
And so we tend to make a lot of plans
in the months and keep maybe a fourth of them,
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and then the rest is just texting like I would
you and always were like would you be mad, knowing
that we won't be ye, And that's a nice It's
part of our little love language, but it's something that's
afforded to us because we're like neighbors. We live so close.
That is never high stakes. Yeah, if I was driving
out from the West Side and someone bails on me
(16:16):
last minute, I might.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Be like, Oh, that would be crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
That doesn't happen very often.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
We have a funny instance that Taylor doesn't is not
super privy to today happening. That So Taylor lives on
the West Side, we're fairly east where we record this podcast.
But Taylor and I are gonna have plans to hang
out after this recording, at least I hope.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Still, well, what are you about to say?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So we were going to hang out after the pod
and we're gonna hang out with a friend who recently
had a birthday and our one friend, Mollie. A couple
of weeks ago, she said to me, Hey, let me
know if you guys think you're going to do something
on the Saturday after Laney's birthday because I have a trip.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
But I could cancel that trip.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
And I remember being like, there's no way we're going
out that Saturday. I have podcast recordings. Laney not want
to go out, she's working. And then when I had
to tell Molly yesterday and I mean, now, Taylor, we're
gonna go see Laney, she was like, Mollie rarely gets
mad rarely, and she just went.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Really really on this trip. And I told you.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Two weeks ago when I went, I like, but I
kind of loved it. I was like, I love this
fiery and I love that she had set the press.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
She had said, She's like, I would prefer to do this, yeah,
and yes, how are you going to fix it?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I told her this is what I said. We're not
going to do anything that fun.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
If we end up having a you know I've already
had a martini.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
She's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Oh I'm gonna be hat. That reminds me though, Okay,
never mind, we shouldn't should fish. Okay, we always dish
and we can cut anything out. You guys also reference
her all the time. I do feel like she's kind
of the like gumtherer of this podcast. Lany's birthday, she
she canceled because she was sick, and then she uncanceled
it because she felt good on antibiotics, and there was
(18:03):
like a flip flop flip flop flip flop snip snaps
this week, and it was just like how are we
and then and then after she canceled and was like,
don't come, and then like two hours before she was like,
if you're feeling bored, you can swing by. And I'm like,
I'm like, I can't be swinging. I'm not swinging by.
It's hours away. I'm not doing that. And that was
(18:26):
that was a cancel uncanceled recently. That really grinded my gears.
And you know what, because we're good friends. I was like,
you do don't you dare invite? Uninvite, invite, and then
uninvite and then invite me.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
We can speak to each other like that because you've
known each other since we were eighteen, and now we're
gonna go over today and it'll be fine and I'll
yell at her, But I love that we have never
talked on the pot about a cancel on canceled, cancel
on cancel.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
That's tough. You got it furiated that you have to
commit because if you release me, I'm released. It's like
it's like being on hold for a commercial.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Ye I was.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I was pinned and now I'm released, and I'm now
thinking about that day. And now if you come back,
it's like, oh, I know you lost it.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
You gave it away.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
You asked like what my I don't know, attitude is
on socializing or whatever. I do need to like plan
a day out of the week that is like pad
tie on the couch watching reality TV and I do
plan it. Yeah, that looks like it's gonna be Tuesday. Tuesday,
it's office hours. Yeah a girl. And if you start
(19:42):
to fuck with that, like I'm gonna lose. Can I curse?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
What if you couldn't?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
But if this was like we were getting paid by Mormons?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Oh wait, speaking of talk about cancel your plans, not
to like expose people. What, but I had a wedding recently.
That's the biggest plan you can cancel on, my friend,
because yeah, a house party, any other even you know,
I can't remember the last time I got really worked
(20:10):
up about somebody canceling on my plans except for my wedding.
And then it was I was like, I'm not a bridezella.
I'm so not a bridezella. And then I got a text.
We got a text like four days before the wedding.
That's crazy, and from a person who did not have
a plus one, and they said, we are gonna have
(20:35):
to dip at six pm and the wedding started at
four and I can't tell you. Like I was like,
I should maybe go to the hospital for my blood pressure.
Like I freaked out, and I was like, oh, this
is what a bridezilla is. No matter how many people
told me that people would blow us off at the
last minute, I just did not believe them. I was like,
(20:55):
not our people, not our friends. And I was wrong,
and there were just still people who blew it off
last minute. I was gagged.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
It's wild. Actually, within you know, within two weeks if
you're gonna be able to make a chance, yes, especially
like a large event like that, especially for someone close.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
To you, you know, and the idea of I would
almost rather somebody be like, I am so sorry, something
came up, I'm not coming. Then go I'm going to
come to the first two hours. I'm gonna have to dip.
And it really made me go. I was screaming at Tony.
I went, no, one is dipping.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You don't dip from.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
This shit, didn't they?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Is this the same person that then came to the
after like after party and he brought a woman wearing
a white dress.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I want to hear about I'm so tired. And I
just saw through my eyes like this woman wearing a
white dress, and I was like, we're gonna have.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
To do We're gonna have to. That's like standing up
in the middle of the ceremony and you're in the
back of the church and going, hey, we're gonna have to.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
We're gonna have to dip party. You guys like just
enough to have some of our booze and food and
they'll go to whatever is more important. Yeah, what So basically,
our wedding is like a pregame.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I was like, yeah, that's not cool.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
So that is the most canceling of canceled. That's that's
really grinded.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
And I think you have every right to feel as frustrated.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
You're so validating.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Wild A wedding is a really that's it's a heavy
it's a heavy time to be pulling a stunt.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
It's a heavy time, and yet people do it. I
think sometimes I had to logic it away by thinking like, oh,
maybe they think we're so caught up in all of
this that we will care about this, and it's it's
and it separates it as opposed to the reality, which is, yeah,
we're so caught up in this. This is a really important,
big thing that we produced. I had to be like
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a producer. You did, you produced it, That's what it is.
It's hard.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And also like you, you had a a big wedding,
but I wouldn't say you had like a huge like
some people have like two hundred fifty three hundred people.
You had like a hundred and fifty.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, people, many people, too many people.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It's not like considered like a huge wedding anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Like people that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Who knows.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
I think you have to.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Also, I think those people got to be inviting parents.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Friend.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Oh yeah, there are some people who are like they
I have some friends who were like, yeah, my my aunt,
my mom will freak out if like right, my uncle's
family can't come.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah, it's like you have to.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
It all comes down to it who's foot in the bill,
and like if it does make sense to me, it's
like if a mom or papa is footing the bill,
then they say they should have some some guest slots.
But that was not the case for your girl. And
so yeah, so you like it was pretty to have it.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
You said, I'm gonna make some crusts.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, to have to have a list that you had
to cut people from, and then to not to say,
hey we're gonna dip, they can just go right down.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
You can't dip. You just can't dish.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, well that's perfect the wedding of it all, because
we have a part of our podcast where we ask
you for advice from a listener.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So it's it wedding, really does it is.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
But we didn't even plan that. Oh wow, do you
want to do you want to hear it?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Okay, this is kind of long. But it's it's important
to hear the details.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
So my friend is getting married in September and is
having her bachelorette party two weeks before her wedding. Originally
she had planned it for Miami, but it was too
expensive and a lot of girls couldn't go, including myself.
The two bridesmaids in charge changed the location to a
city two hours from where they all live. It's four
hours away from me. They wanted to do a headcount
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before they started budgeting and wouldn't give a ballpark amount.
I agreed to go, assuming it wouldn't be too expensive,
since the city they chose isn't very big and wouldn't
be expensive like Miami Milwaukee. Yeah, what cities?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
I think it's kissing me.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
They sent the itinerary today and it's four hundred per
person excluding our two meals.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
At a restaurant. Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
The airbnb alone is two hundred and sixty seven for
two nights. Because it's so expensive, the whole bacherette party
will be hosted at the house. The only times we
are going somewhere is for brunch and dinner at Olive Garden. Essentially,
four hundred dollars for a two night sleepover at an
air maybe with frozen food and quick snacks.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I kind of expected.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I kind of expected to at least go downtown or
to a bar for that amount. I don't want to
pay four hundred dollars for a sleepover. I still have
to pay for my dress and hotel before the wedding
two weeks later, since I lived two hours away from
where the wedding will be. I think it's a bit
unfair that we weren't given an estimate or a general
idea what we were getting into. Am I wrong to
want to back out?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Okay? In this economy, sure, I don't know if you
guys have been to a garden lately. I haven't. I
go to Buffalo Wild Wings like every week. And that
the prices have come up. Even though you think things
are cheap, everything is more expensive. I think four hundred
dollars two nights and two.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Nights in an airbnb that seems to be kind of
in the middle of nowhere, Like it doesn't seem like.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
I guarantee this is an airbnb situation where they're like
eight and they're like, yeah, that's a love.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Sat No, no, no, she's going to be sitting on
the round. I don't think that this girl is in
the wrong for not wanting to do it, but I
do think her girlfriends are going to shade her if
she's like, it's too expensive, right, and you went on
my bacherette. It costs like thousands of.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
Dollars of person it was, and I was like week
So I'm like, I'm listening to this bride or her
bridesmaid's charging four hundred for what seems like maybe a
mild to tame to potentially lame weekend.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, and that's not nothing. That's money.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
But I think there's a certain threshold that you cross
price wise where it's like everything's more expensive now. So
in my mind, once I cross cross that threshold, we're
not going to all hall garden.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
That is a problem.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Like, if I'm already gonna be out money, let's ball up,
let's do something.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Two meals, make one of them nice. Although I think
we're all kind of like ignoring the unlimited breadstick situation.
Not soup and salad and salad and bread sticks like
they come to please like you're gonna be full.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, you can take some bread sticks home.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah, have you ever got the bag before you can go.
You can buy the bag from them, you bring them home,
you make them a home.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
A bag of the you like to put in the
oven because you like a little garden.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
But listen, I'm my heart lies at Chili's.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Care of.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Just price wise in the portions. And also I do
think that all of gardens a little bland. I think
that like you have to do a lot more work
to kind of get more flavor out there. But Chili's
there's a Yeah for me, it's outback.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Oh, You're like a bloomin onion.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
If someone was like, let's go, let's go to outback
and like when and where?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I do feel for this girl though, because they're gonna
talk shit if she doesn't go. Yeah. Also, she's making
it like it's two hours away and.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Like, bitch, that's not that far.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I like, not that far you could drive home after
the wedding.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And when I've heard so many really valid bachelorette complaints that.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Are like, you know, yeah, and this feels like some
people go to different countries for their bachelorette Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I liked when you on a previous episode talked about
whether or not you would come to my bachelorette if
you had broken a leg and you were like, Taylor
would be cool about it, and I was like, I
would be, but I would also make you come.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
No, I would have come. And then we decided. I
think on the pod that someone would have been my
designated pusher and that I would have gotten more attention
from male strippers. Yes, they would have been like, oh,
look at her.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
They would have done it to be all over you. Yeah,
they would have loved to be all over you. Maybe
this girl could fake that she broke her leg.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
But then you know she's gonna have something. I'll push
you the weekend.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
I think ultimately people get really sucked out. I think
you get sucked into the obligation to attend a bachelor
or bachelorette party because there's like confusion on what the
relationship is to the person where it's like, hmm, obviously,
like you could break both legs and you'd still be
at her fucking bachelorette party, you know, because you guys
are close. But there are some people that are They
(29:31):
assume that just because someone's like a bridesmaid or invited
to sometimes wedding, it's like, I don't know it's when
you really get get into the nitty gritty with them
and you ask them how close they are to them,
They're like, I mean we're like kind of close, and
it's like, oh, it's a social pressure, you know totally.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
What all happens is people get to be personality hires
and I'm so great person like, yes of this one
is a friend we've already mentioned, and the other is
my sister in law who went to my bachelorette because
it was like, she's my favorite.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Give her name Amber Senna.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
The Amber is so fun and like is so fun,
such a good gets along with everybody, always raises the
vibe that girl is. She I just saw her recently
and she was like, I'm going to a wedding and
people I met like two weeks ago. She gets She
wented to weddings left and right. She gets invited to
bachelorette left and right because she always raises the vibe.
(30:26):
Molly is like that. Recently, before I even got engaged,
Molly was like, I Am not doing bacheorette parties anymore.
And I was like, whoa that is? You're scared? She goes,
I am not doing it anymore, not unless you're my
really good friend. And I went, oh, no, that's how
it works. You should only be going.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
So many because she's so fun.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
She's and she's too fun and she doesn't say no,
she does not yet.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
You can't bring the noise that he and the funk
that severely and then shocked when people are like, come home,
they're going to suck.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
You drive, they're gonna suck you dry. If you're a
Mollior and Amber and you are bringing the heat, the party,
the pussy, would you say the noise, the heat, the noise,
the heat, just I mean, I think I got fund.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
What's the starting lineup of a bachelorette party?
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
The cast?
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yeah, that's a fun question.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Okay, So I do think sister in law books, if
you have a future sister in law, Yeah, that could
be good or bad in my case and incredible, but
in some cases not that fun. You. I do think
lately my experience, there's been one person and I've been
this person who is like the recent friend that you
made like a maybe it's through work or through your
(31:42):
neighborhood or whatever, and the recent friend books and it's
like so happy to book because it validates your friendship,
but they don't maybe know any of your friends. Yeah,
that's a person who.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
And that also like like in the movie Bridesmaid, it's
like sometimes that can cause tention from like the childhood
friend versus the new friend. Yeah, where there's always childhood
best friend, the sister in law, the recent friend, and
then there's like a slew of like like ensemble who
are like they've known you for years, we went to
college together. There's like three or four and they're kind
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of like the troublemakers because they're very close.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
They're close to most people in the.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Party, so they know they can get away with a lot.
I feel like that was kind of like me and
Molly and the bulk of your Yeah, where it was
like I knew we could just like because we just
know everyone and we're comfortable.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, you were also filling this lot of gambling addict.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I did gamble. I did gamble. I was just telling
the story to someone about how we were waiting for
an uber to get to the airport on the last
day of her Perhapsterette, I like, you have to tell
the story.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Mary goes, We're all so hungover. Mary had woken up
early that morning to go down to the casino and
won seven hundred dollars on a slot machine and was
pay for my hotel. She comes down, she's like, pay
for my room, and then she goes, I think we
should all come back to Vegas just for a gambling trip.
Anybody should wants to gamble, should come back. We should
just do a weekend reach est gamble. And then she's
(33:03):
like counting her money, she's waiting, she's beaming. All of
us are like, I needed to go to a hospital.
Taylor was like ivy in my arm. I was never tailor.
I didn't go to sleep. I did not see you
didn't sleep. I put myself through like military torture conditions,
like through the Bachelor. And then Mary looks at me
and goes, can you imagine like if you had a
gambling addiction, and everyone like, Larry, you have a gambling addiction.
(33:27):
You snuck to the casino in the morning and snuffs
to it. All the girls were in our cute little
costumes walking around the casino. We're like, where's Mary And
she's like tits on the table, sucking playing blackjack, and
we come up and we're like Mary, and she goes,
I'm all in a heat and we.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Like tailor please, You're like ruining, You're ruining the vibe
that I've cultivated.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Oh your grift that you were like, I don't know
what is called.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
She was and I was trying yestling. So that's a
person on the bed like, sure, all go to Vegas
and then is like robbing people.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
That is funny.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, the person with the secret agenda. Oh your bouzrette
party was so fun. And I also am ruined forever
for Vegas because so much of it was like paid
for by like weird sponsorships. Yeah, we got and then
and then we also did that thing that I think
is like crowd crowdfunding where we're like, here's a Venmo
for the bride. If you want a venmo her like
five dollars for a drink, and then people.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
And it us they did people.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
We got so much money from There.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Was nuts on the back of a rental car. If
you get like the little chalk paint thing on the
back window, people, do you do it for weeks?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Are it's really maybe just ten? You either hate to
see that or you're paying money or you're excited. It's
like so either you're either like, why would I ever
give a.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
You're like so much for like very discounted. We got
to like see shows like delicious food.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Like we had an incredible pool side chicken strips were paid.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Those were paid the pool side, all the drinks.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
I was like, you know, you have to send that
signal out somewhere where there is actively drunk people. Yeah,
because something you'll hit the right wave where I turn
into like the most philanthropic version of myself. Oh. When
I if I'm drunk walking past someone busking, I'm like,
everyone stopped, look at We've discovered the stock. And I
(35:19):
wake up the next morning and I found this is
so humiliating. I've opened up my venmo the next morning.
Like it's even in West Hollywood. Mean, when there's like
someone just ran on like the corner by the the crosswalk,
just playing acoustic guitar, and I'll see like every every
time I walked by, I tipped them like five, ten, fifteenth,
And then I'm too drunk to put it on private,
(35:40):
So publicly I'm going, yes, bitch, I.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Didn't know it's about you. Yeah, Oh I relate to this.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
So I'm buying shots for people. I'm like, get your
birthday issues.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I'll buy the shots and then I will tip the
bartender and insane. I've had bartenders be like, man, stop,
They're like, you're gonna call in the morning and like
regret this. Tony's been like, you've got to cool, even
though you're also your husband.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I keep calling your husband because that's.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I've mentioned it twelve times in the podcast, but I
am Mary.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Her husband also famously like if we're all getting wasted together,
he'll be like, surprise, twenty five burgers for everyone. Yeah,
I know, like a bunch of McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
It's a hippy, incredible, but it. Yeah, you just get
drunk and you want to feed people, you want to
tip people.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
We can't take it with us.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
No, no, if I'm buried with my McDonald's money, oh
I'm going straight to hell. I don't want that. I
don't want it. I do want to tell my favorite
embarrassing Mary story really quick, if you guys have time.
We do always Mary found a debit card on the
floor of a bar with our good friend and goes,
(36:52):
you know what we should do because she was in
her devilish.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Little Sometimes it can in my heart, you do.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
And I love that about you. I think we all do.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
And this is also in my twenties, a different time.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, late twenties, and we've all been twenty, we've all
been twenty eight, twenty nine, turning thirty. And she turns
to our friend and is like, you know what we
should do. We should return it to the bar, order
a couple of drinks, and then leave it. You know
what I mean, Like, go up to the bar and
be like, we're gonna have two vodka sodas, give them
the card, be like, we'll leave it and then just never.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
You know, finders feet.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
And so our friend goes up and orders to vodka sodas,
and the bartender takes the card and turns to the
girl next to them and goes, was this the card
you were talking about? The owner of the debit card
was standing right next to them, shoulder to shoulder, a
girly exactly our age, which was in our twenties. And
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then our friend goes, oh, that's sorry. So yes, that
is the card that I am returning. And then this
is the card I want to put the drinks on.
And so she does. This whole thing is so uncomfortable,
gets the drinks, runs away. The owner of the debit
card finds Mary and our friend and comes up and
is like, what's wrong with you? You were about to
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buy drinks on my card? And Mary becomes a woman
that none of us have ever seen and goes, you
don't think she was gonna do that to you?
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (38:24):
She would never ever do you have something like that?
Speaker 4 (38:29):
And you don't know her.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
You know her, she has a heart of gold. She
was returning your card. Gas Light woman gas Light on
a level, lovelier level, defends this girl's on her because
it was Mary's sin. It was the first place.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I like had egged on my friend to I wasn't
brave enough. Look, I was smart enough to have the
finders the idea. Yeah, I was not brave enough to
do it myself, So I egged on a friend to
do it in the worst possible way. Then I'm feeling this,
like also, in my defense, me and this girl had
(39:07):
had an entire box of Frenzy out by ourselves.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
In my defense, I had an entire box.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
What else is in frendsy? It's not just wine, there's like.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, there's definitely like percincogs in that.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
So I was like tripping on whatever chemicals from this.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Box of front Was it sundset blush?
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Sunset blush?
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Is that the I know it was a red wine.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I like as well. I'm like, yeah, fancy it sucks
what flavor wasn't in this?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
But when Sinespia comes back around, let's all get a
box of Frenzy.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
And just Genespia is fun. Yeah. Sorry, that is another event.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
And I cross the street from it, so I get
to walk, so I have to figure out the parking standagans. Yeah,
when it comes around, we park in my house.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
We just walk over and I would cancel.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
On that b but sorry.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
So you know, I was drunk out of my mind
and I remember being like, you don't know her, she's
my friend. I'm going for a very long time. She
would never do that. She in fact was returning the
guard and then I think at one point I almost
had crocodile tears because I was like trying.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I was just like, yeah, the performance was big.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
The performance was huge, and our one of our other
friends was completely sober that night, and she was She
said that she had never felt like more embarrassed to
be our friends, and at one point like walked farther
away from us and we were looking for her, and
she just was like, it's just such a good it's
incredible story, but a shameful moment.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Well, this has been a delightful time.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Am I done? You were kidding? Is done with me?
Speaker 3 (40:42):
I think we're going to dry?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
No, we just we got everything we needed. You were
such a good guest, was I you were? You actually
really kept us on task, which is really nice.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
I validate me. Okay, she did, so I love no no, No?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Is that cardigan? That's great? Well, I complimented your necklace made.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Why was it stressful?
Speaker 4 (41:05):
By the way?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
That last?
Speaker 3 (41:06):
By the way, was that real or did you lie?
Like did you actually make that or were you.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Just yeah, I made it?
Speaker 4 (41:12):
Crazy? Lie?
Speaker 3 (41:12):
That would be well, I don't know. Sometimes people are crazy.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Taylor made this okay, So why was it stressful?
Speaker 4 (41:18):
To me?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
There's a little I mean, I'm sure you guys can
relate to this where I brought my girlfriend who I
cancel on all the time, and uh and who also cancels.
I mean, we can'cel on each other.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Which is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
By the way, that's a beautiful person.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
We have plans to be in each other's lives for
a long time.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Oh yeah, We're like, we're in here for the long term.
So like, if we can't do whatever, we can't do it.
But I thought, well, let's do something fun and creative.
I heard of this place where you make your own
charm necklace. And she has like a great sense of style.
So we go. We're gabbing, We're so excited. It's called
Charmed La, great little business. It's on Melrose and you
walk in and there's so many charms. Oh, it is
(41:54):
so adorable. There's like you could get a little miniature
like boba tea with a little boba in it, where
you can get you know, your initial made out of
pink pearls. There's all these options, and that is paralyzing.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Like we went from going this is so cute to
where both we have the tray that they give you
to pick and we're sweating. We're like, do you have
a time when we were there so long that we
got so hungry we were like not even speaking to
each other, starving, and they had held water. We were like,
oh it was it became like severe. She was picking
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between a yellow a balloon animal and a green one
and she's like, what do I do, and I'm like,
I don't know, man, I think I have to pick
a theme. And she's like, what's the theme, and I'm like,
I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
She's like, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
What do you mean the year? And I'm like, I
don't know. I don't know what a year? And so
it really it really paralyzed us and it ended up
being like not fun. And then some girls came in
as we were kind of winding down. Because then once
you pick your chains, you put them on yourselves, which
involves looking at a microscope these little tools. I'm like
sweating and shaking from mountain irshman, and I'm like, I'm
glad I picked this gummy bear and I'm putting it on.
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And then these five girls walk in it as like
a corporate retreat. They're doing it and they're like, ah,
this is so cute. Look at all the charms, and
we're looking at them like it's harder than you think
it and we hope you ate chin we're monsters. But
it makes me feel like I worked. Oh this necklace
and I wear it often and I do proudly say
(43:24):
that I made it because my blood's whatten't here. I
can't believe you had to put the charms on yourself ourselves.
It's like adult build a bit.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
I'm sorry, what are the employees doing?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
They teach you how to do it. She was lovely,
she had a really cool name, She had all kinds
of jewelry on, and she taught us how to do it. Okay,
but I ended up. Yeah, it was. It was just
like a really stressful time.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Oh Taylor. It was a delight to have you.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Oh I love you. Thank you, guys. I'm so glad
I didn't cancel on this.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Do you have anything you want to plug?
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (43:54):
If you could watch Going Dutch on Hulu, that would
be a really show. And even if you don't want
to watch it, put it on for your goddamn dog. Yeah,
let it just play for your cake and anything else.
I want to plug tron La and build a bear workshop.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Get you one of these, gets you one of these, baby,
Get you.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
One of these and go build a bear.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
I don't know, yeah, okay, thy thanks
I told her this is what I said.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I said, We're not going to do anything that fun.
What if we end up.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Having a you know, I've already had a martini.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
She's going to be fun.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Oh, I'm going to be.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Welcome back to cancel your plans and Hi, Hi, Mary.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hi Kyle.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I canceled on a coworker, which is tough to do
because they are.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
With you towards the end of the.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Night, so they know they can like kind of read
on you. Okay, she had plans after this whatever, And
I just I just was very honest. I just said,
I have had a hard day. You've seen me at
my desk. It's been really tough.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
You've seen me.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
You have seen me at crying today, You've seen me imploding.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And I just I'm not going to be my best
self at this dinner. And I think I said to her, like,
I want to hang out, but I want to be
a better version of me.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You deserve better from.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Me, yeah, which I kind of hate when men say
that to me. You know, when guys break up with
you and they're like.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
But when it's a dinner thing, like with a friend
or a co worker, I think that's I'd be open
to hearing that.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, and I And then honestly she took it and
she was like, yeah, you're right, like I would, let's
let's do it on a wee weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
She's like, I agree, you suck right now, I'm gonna
try to hang out with you that I canceled a
plan to hop on a zoom real quick. Oh right,
because no, I will not be hopping on a zoom
real quick. You can tell me in three sentences over
an email and then we can proceed from there. Because
oftentimes someone's like, hey, can we hop on a zoom
real quick? And I'm like, what's it?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
What else it is about?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
It seems like you just kind of want to talk
for a half hour about something that could have been
an email. Most of the time, I guess I'm just
experiencing a lot of frustration about like where are we where,
what are we doing, where we're going, What's what's going
on here?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Societal expectations.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
It just like work.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Stuff, societal stuff. It's like I'm so fed up with like,
let's let's schedule a zoom call to have a conversation
about thinking about doing a thing. What are we doing? Yeah,
you get to send you get a Okay, so we're
gonna at now have a zoom call about maybe deciding
to maybe send an email to someone look off right,
just send me or just send me an email saying Hey,
(02:18):
I'm not ready to work on this thing yet. I
don't know. I guess I hear you, I'm done. What
are we doing hopping on a zoom call for for what?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Also, with the minute you said, hey, can we hop
on a zoom call?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Real quick?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I thought about like a pilgrim hearing that that sentence.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Being like can we hop on a zoom call?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Or can we hop on a zoom yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Like if okay, if I'm a pill if I'm like
a pilgrim and I'm hearing about the future, if I
hear let's hop on.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
A zoom zoom.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I think like maybe it's a crazy wagon that goes fast,
or like they don't know the word it's.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
A chariot to the heavens.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
But like zoom, yeah, you think it's like something that
you're Can we.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Talk about how how Skype.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Really really tanked.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Really fumbled right there? They for years it was like
you wanted to talk to someone's video shot. It was like,
let's Skype later and the second that everyone had to
be on the computer.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Where was Skype?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Where was Skype?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Because you would think that that business person they already
have their platform built, so why wouldn't they be like, Okay,
let's make it better. Why did Zoom take over?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
And Zoom was like not good? It's still like not great.
But like at the time Zoom, I was like, why
are we using Zoom?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Remember when people were like pranksters were hopping onto like
important zooms and like flashing.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, that was kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It was hilarious.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
But yeah, Skype really really yes, spe where'd you go?
Where are you now?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
But actually, but also like we're open for Skype to
sponsor this podcast though, if you want to have a rebrand.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, just we'll hop on a Zoom real quick and
talk about it. Skype.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Oh my god, just just Skype zoom.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Do people from Skype?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Oh yeah, I wonder what the mandate is internally if
they're like, if we catch a single one of you
fuckers zooming, they definitely use Zoom. Anyway, we have a
great show for you today. Taylor Mishak's here, a dear.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Dear friend of the pod and a long awaited guest
that we're so excited to grill.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
We're gonna grill her. We're gonna hold her feet of
the fire.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I'm gonna confront her.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Confront her about all the ship she's been talking out
here in these streets. Anyways, we're feeling loopy, we're feeling light,
We're feeling good.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That's Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Let's let's go.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Today's guest is an actress you may know from her
roles on Fox's Going Dutch fx Is Dave, and her
real life role as screaming woman in Eagles Jersey. Taylor Mishak.
Welcome to cancel your plan.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I'm so excited that you're here about It's about me.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So Taylor's an actress. Our first for our guests is
usually like, what is your relationship to socializing canceling plans?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Not canceling plans, you know, in preparation as a fan
of the pod, I've been thinking about this question, and
I agree with a lot of previous guests that for
the most part, it's something that offers relief and can
be not that big of a deal. While also I
experience anxiety when I'm canceling, But I think the thing
that's changed in the past few years is that I've
(05:28):
started to say no more to the things I don't
want to do, and that has lessened the times I've
had to cancel. Yeah, does that make sense? And sometimes
that can ruffle some feathers, you know, like, for example,
I live on the West Side. I'm sorry, Venice, I
live in Venice.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
That's the worst thing about me.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I'm sorry. It is the worst thing about you. It's
the worst thing about me. Everybody on the West Side
loves to go to this like event on Fridays in
the summer and they all act like it's fun and
I and get invited to it from people I love.
And for a while I would say I was going,
I would go, I would be miserable. And now I'm
just like, you know what, I hate pen Maar. It's
bad pen Mar pen mar.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I have ever even heard of it.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
You guys, because we don't go over there.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah. It's a golf course, beautiful golf course where they
sell you. Oh you're going to listen to live music
and you're going to meet all these cool people and
you could bring your own chairs and blankets and there's
wine and you mingle. You go, they confiscate everything you've
ever owned. They're like, no, you can't actually bring that chair,
and then they take all your stuff. The wine is
(06:35):
like forty five dollars a glass. People get there so early,
and they're all really hot, like Bachelor Nation esque, like
hot hot, hot, shoulder to shoulder. You're packed. It's usually muddy,
and the music is not that loud because it's in
like a residential neighborhood, but because people are hot and
they like to like they act like it's fun. Everybody's
(06:56):
acting like it's fun. They get the content and they
do and they get content.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
It's a scenie place.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
It's very it's very scene. And I was getting stressed out,
like trying to come up with reasons to not to
go without offending people by being like, oh that sucks though,
like it sucks. Yeah, it's a bad way fun. It's
not fun. But even getting there it's on like a
side road. It's not fun. And now I've felt so
much more release. Like our good friend Dina texted us
and was like, do you want to go to Penmar
(07:21):
And I was like no, cause it sucks, and that
is better to me than saying maybe yeah, and not
going am I yucking her young? Maybe?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Sure, but you're also being honest with your friend.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
And I feel like I've adopted that a little bit
now into oh, if it's you know, if it's just
something I don't want to do, I am more likely
to be like you know what, Philipop, I don't want
to But you know, I still get the normal sort
of stress about.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
But I think the older we get, I feel, yeah, like,
my godness, well here's what you brought up, an interesting
thing of like something being really SEENI this seems like
sort of a new phenomenon, at least in my brain.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I feel like things that were SEENI were annoying a
little bit, but they were still fun. But now they're
not even fun anymore. Y. Yeah, something like there's a
phenomenon occurring where now the thing that is like kind
of the scene to go to. It was annoying because
it had like kind of like douchey people there and
it was like, oh, whatever, it's too expensive, but you
(08:22):
still there was still an experience occurring, but now there's
not you just standing there.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
It's because I'm like fully Parker posy, and I don't
tolerate discomfort anymore the way I used to I used
to be okay with like it's even though it's shoulder
to shoulder, but people are hot and fun and I'm like,
I don't get I don't care, I can't, I don't I'm.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Not I got at home today, Kyle. What she's referring
to is in The White Lotus that Kyle famously doesn't watch,
Parker Posy had a beautiful monologue about how she's too
old to experience discomfort, and.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Parker Posey, what are you doing not watching?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I know, I just incredible. I love her, Parker. Please,
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Okay, So I do also think, don't you think that
there is the opposite where you know, part of like
the problem with society is that we're not okay with discomfort.
We're doing so much to make ourselves comfortable and then
like that that does like regress. That's not good for us.
But I just like, don't think me going, Penmark whatever,
going to like help society.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
It is on you to balance the scale.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
But Taylor, you also as a friend, I think this
is a funny thing about you is that you have
a lot of followers on socials because you are like
a well known actress. You're a successful actress. No, but
you have a ton of But you're not like an
influencer type like you have famously said that if you
could have your way, you wouldn't have social media at all.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Oh, I would adore it. I mean every time I've
gotten yet of one thing, it's been we lifted off
my shoes.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, you don't want to, you don't want to be
an influencer, So it makes sense that you're not drawn
to like an influencer type thing.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, And I think like now we all understand the
things that we enjoy and the things that we prioritize.
And I guess, like it's exactly what you just said
about the scene. Used to have a Jena se Quah
that was like fun to be a part of the scene.
And then we're older, we have more friends, like real friends.
We know what kind of how we want, and it's
(10:20):
just that that's lost. I don't need to be part
of the scene. And I like cool things. I go
to cool things. I went to the go to concerts.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I had Taylor's, I have Taylor's location, and sometimes I
like to look at, you know, where my friends are
at during the day. During the night anytime. I like
to see where my girls are and tell.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Either of you guys, have ever been anywhere? What's happened
to Taylor?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Taylor Like the other day was at the Kia Forum
and I was like going to touch, Like, why the
fuck you're at the Kia Forum. You didn't tell us, Like.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Because you're checking the location.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I'm watching her all over the world. And that was
a cool concert that I went to. The artist and
I liked the playing.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
At the Kapoor okay, And I didn't recognize the artists
deem and I get it's crazy that one of my
best friends is seeing an artist I don't even know
who exists.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
This is embarrassing. You should know Gareth Emory. He was
is a DJ who was that I was in and
I went to his show two years ago for my
birthday that.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
We all went to. Yes, okay it with him? Yes okay.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
But Mary is respecting a boundary that I put in
our relationship where when she said can I be on
fine my friends with you? I said, as long as
you never speak to me about it. So hence her
googling my whereabouts rather than texting me, I don't like
feeling watched. I don't like feeling watch same.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I know because I'm such a true crime person. One
time my friend was in Hawaii and she was my
friend Claire was like she had told me earlier in
the day she was going on a hike, but her
location was like in the middle of this like massive
national forest, not near where the hiking trail was. Her
location was like and you know what, like people's like
people's little guys like toggle and she was all over
(11:58):
tonation in this in this national park. And I just
was like picturing the true crime like beautiful woman gets
lost in in hike in Hawaii, and I was like
picturing the headline. So I called her twice.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
She didn't pick up.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Then I texted her and then she was like and
then like two hours later she was like, I'm so sorry,
like I had no service.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
She was sorry.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
She apologized to me, Mary.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
This is why we have big, thick boundaries on how
you used find my friends on my ass. If I
go on a hike and you call me four times.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
She's day, Well, so many women get kidnapped in hikes.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I'm not realizing that not once have you actually asked
for my location.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I've thought about it. Are you guys share a location?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, God bless you.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I thought about it a lot, Kyle.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Now I'm feeling some type of way about it, even
though I don't want you to have it. Now, I
want you to want to have.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Do you want to know why I haven't asked you why.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
This is vulnerable because we don't care about where I am.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
No, not at all. Okay, because you and I often
do a lot of work related things together. We do
a lot of like important like meat for disappointment, meet
for this, pitch, meet for this podcast, and I don't
want you to know I haven't left my house yet.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Oh, or if you meta cancel on him, you don't
want him to know it's actually because you're in bed
and not at a doctor's appointment or work.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, like, as my fellow pod hosts, I don't. I'm
afraid of what that could mean.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
But you also know that you could just tell me
the thing, and I genuinely won't.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I'm usually very honest with you.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
What I love about our friendship is that you'll just
stray be like I don't want to go.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, that's because.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Neither Back to the like being honest with your friends
about like that doesn't sound fun.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Which, again, in addition to saying no to things that
I just don't want to do, I do feel like,
for the most part, I'm making plans with people who
I feel comfortable enough to be like, ugh, girl, I
woke up today and I just can't do it.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
And if you're close enough with that person, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
But it comes up a lot with like work and
industry stuff and general you know, things that like those
are more like obligation type sayings, and those are a
bit harder. And that's I think where most of my
cancel my plan anxieties come from.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
But I feel like you, I feel you rarely canceled.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I rarely canceled. I can't remember the last professional thing
I canceled, but I can remember the last professional thing
that was canceled that I was like, thank god.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, oh, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
You know when people cancel socially on you about something,
When they cancel socially for something that you're excited about,
how do you handle that?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I think for the most part, I'm okay.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I really think so you're really selling it.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No, I'm really trying to. I mean, I know Mary
has bailed on my ass before, but I can't remember anything.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
You want to be mad about it?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Pretty good.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I think we're pretty good at being with each other.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, we've been.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Really thirsty for one of our close friends to come
on here and really be like, I know, I have
an extra grind with you about this.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I know, and I wanted to have an extra grind
with Mary. But lately, I mean she's been in a
kind of party girl phase the past couple of months
that has done a lot of like a lot of
pr work for her brand. Like she's really been go
on hard.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I'm party girl, She's with the people.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, you've been party girly.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I think it's because I work like a nine to
five job now, so like on the weekends. I was
trying to explain this to someone at a party, and
I think I like made myself sound crazy, but I
was like, I really needed.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
A blow off steam.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, but I got saturdays. I need to really just
like let out.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I gotta hunt someone for a sports yeah, because I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
So corporate throughout the week, I need to really like
let loose.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I totally get that.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, So I've definitely on Saturdays, I wanted to drink more.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I have a friend who uh is a very close
friend who lives really close by me and I have
I think that part of our love language to each
other is canceling on each other now and it's become
like part of our part of cute. It's really cute.
And so we tend to make a lot of plans
in the months and keep maybe a fourth of them,
(15:55):
and then the rest is just texting like I would
you and always were like would you be mad, knowing
that we won't be ye, And that's a nice It's
part of our little love language, but it's something that's
afforded to us because we're like neighbors. We live so close.
That is never high stakes. Yeah, if I was driving
out from the West Side and someone bails on me
(16:16):
last minute, I might.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Be like, Oh, that would be crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
That doesn't happen very often.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
We have a funny instance that Taylor doesn't is not
super privy to today happening. That So Taylor lives on
the West Side, we're fairly east where we record this podcast.
But Taylor and I are gonna have plans to hang
out after this recording, at least I hope.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Still, well, what are you about to say?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So we were going to hang out after the pod
and we're gonna hang out with a friend who recently
had a birthday and our one friend, Mollie. A couple
of weeks ago, she said to me, Hey, let me
know if you guys think you're going to do something
on the Saturday after Laney's birthday because I have a trip.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
But I could cancel that trip.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
And I remember being like, there's no way we're going
out that Saturday. I have podcast recordings. Laney not want
to go out, she's working. And then when I had
to tell Molly yesterday and I mean, now, Taylor, we're
gonna go see Laney, she was like, Mollie rarely gets
mad rarely, and she just went.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Really really on this trip. And I told you.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Two weeks ago when I went, I like, but I
kind of loved it. I was like, I love this
fiery and I love that she had set the press.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
She had said, She's like, I would prefer to do this, yeah,
and yes, how are you going to fix it?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I told her this is what I said. We're not
going to do anything that fun.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
If we end up having a you know I've already
had a martini.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
She's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Oh I'm gonna be hat. That reminds me though, Okay,
never mind, we shouldn't should fish. Okay, we always dish
and we can cut anything out. You guys also reference
her all the time. I do feel like she's kind
of the like gumtherer of this podcast. Lany's birthday, she
she canceled because she was sick, and then she uncanceled
it because she felt good on antibiotics, and there was
(18:03):
like a flip flop flip flop flip flop snip snaps
this week, and it was just like how are we
and then and then after she canceled and was like,
don't come, and then like two hours before she was like,
if you're feeling bored, you can swing by. And I'm like,
I'm like, I can't be swinging. I'm not swinging by.
It's hours away. I'm not doing that. And that was
(18:26):
that was a cancel uncanceled recently. That really grinded my gears.
And you know what, because we're good friends. I was like,
you do don't you dare invite? Uninvite, invite, and then
uninvite and then invite me.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
We can speak to each other like that because you've
known each other since we were eighteen, and now we're
gonna go over today and it'll be fine and I'll
yell at her, But I love that we have never
talked on the pot about a cancel on canceled, cancel
on cancel.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
That's tough. You got it furiated that you have to
commit because if you release me, I'm released. It's like
it's like being on hold for a commercial.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Ye I was.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I was pinned and now I'm released, and I'm now
thinking about that day. And now if you come back,
it's like, oh, I know you lost it.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
You gave it away.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
You asked like what my I don't know, attitude is
on socializing or whatever. I do need to like plan
a day out of the week that is like pad
tie on the couch watching reality TV and I do
plan it. Yeah, that looks like it's gonna be Tuesday. Tuesday,
it's office hours. Yeah a girl. And if you start
(19:42):
to fuck with that, like I'm gonna lose. Can I curse?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
What if you couldn't?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
But if this was like we were getting paid by Mormons?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Oh wait, speaking of talk about cancel your plans, not
to like expose people. What, but I had a wedding recently.
That's the biggest plan you can cancel on, my friend,
because yeah, a house party, any other even you know,
I can't remember the last time I got really worked
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up about somebody canceling on my plans except for my wedding.
And then it was I was like, I'm not a bridezella.
I'm so not a bridezella. And then I got a text.
We got a text like four days before the wedding.
That's crazy, and from a person who did not have
a plus one, and they said, we are gonna have
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to dip at six pm and the wedding started at
four and I can't tell you. Like I was like,
I should maybe go to the hospital for my blood pressure.
Like I freaked out, and I was like, oh, this
is what a bridezilla is. No matter how many people
told me that people would blow us off at the
last minute, I just did not believe them. I was like,
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not our people, not our friends. And I was wrong,
and there were just still people who blew it off
last minute. I was gagged.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
It's wild. Actually, within you know, within two weeks if
you're gonna be able to make a chance, yes, especially
like a large event like that, especially for someone close.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
To you, you know, and the idea of I would
almost rather somebody be like, I am so sorry, something
came up, I'm not coming. Then go I'm going to
come to the first two hours. I'm gonna have to dip.
And it really made me go. I was screaming at Tony.
I went, no, one is dipping.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You don't dip from.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
This shit, didn't they?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Is this the same person that then came to the
after like after party and he brought a woman wearing
a white dress.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I want to hear about I'm so tired. And I
just saw through my eyes like this woman wearing a
white dress, and I was like, we're gonna have.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
To do We're gonna have to. That's like standing up
in the middle of the ceremony and you're in the
back of the church and going, hey, we're gonna have to.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
We're gonna have to dip party. You guys like just
enough to have some of our booze and food and
they'll go to whatever is more important. Yeah, what So basically,
our wedding is like a pregame.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I was like, yeah, that's not cool.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
So that is the most canceling of canceled. That's that's
really grinded.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
And I think you have every right to feel as frustrated.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
You're so validating.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Wild A wedding is a really that's it's a heavy
it's a heavy time to be pulling a stunt.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
It's a heavy time, and yet people do it. I
think sometimes I had to logic it away by thinking like, oh,
maybe they think we're so caught up in all of
this that we will care about this, and it's it's
and it separates it as opposed to the reality, which is, yeah,
we're so caught up in this. This is a really important,
big thing that we produced. I had to be like
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a producer. You did, you produced it, That's what it is.
It's hard.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And also like you, you had a a big wedding,
but I wouldn't say you had like a huge like
some people have like two hundred fifty three hundred people.
You had like a hundred and fifty.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, people, many people, too many people.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It's not like considered like a huge wedding anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Like people that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Who knows.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
I think you have to.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Also, I think those people got to be inviting parents.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Friend.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Oh yeah, there are some people who are like they
I have some friends who were like, yeah, my my aunt,
my mom will freak out if like right, my uncle's
family can't come.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah, it's like you have to.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
It all comes down to it who's foot in the bill,
and like if it does make sense to me, it's
like if a mom or papa is footing the bill,
then they say they should have some some guest slots.
But that was not the case for your girl. And
so yeah, so you like it was pretty to have it.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
You said, I'm gonna make some crusts.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, to have to have a list that you had
to cut people from, and then to not to say,
hey we're gonna dip, they can just go right down.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
You can't dip. You just can't dish.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, well that's perfect the wedding of it all, because
we have a part of our podcast where we ask
you for advice from a listener.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So it's it wedding, really does it is.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
But we didn't even plan that. Oh wow, do you
want to do you want to hear it?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Okay, this is kind of long. But it's it's important
to hear the details.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
So my friend is getting married in September and is
having her bachelorette party two weeks before her wedding. Originally
she had planned it for Miami, but it was too
expensive and a lot of girls couldn't go, including myself.
The two bridesmaids in charge changed the location to a
city two hours from where they all live. It's four
hours away from me. They wanted to do a headcount
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before they started budgeting and wouldn't give a ballpark amount.
I agreed to go, assuming it wouldn't be too expensive,
since the city they chose isn't very big and wouldn't
be expensive like Miami Milwaukee. Yeah, what cities?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
I think it's kissing me.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
They sent the itinerary today and it's four hundred per
person excluding our two meals.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
At a restaurant. Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
The airbnb alone is two hundred and sixty seven for
two nights. Because it's so expensive, the whole bacherette party
will be hosted at the house. The only times we
are going somewhere is for brunch and dinner at Olive Garden. Essentially,
four hundred dollars for a two night sleepover at an
air maybe with frozen food and quick snacks.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I kind of expected.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I kind of expected to at least go downtown or
to a bar for that amount. I don't want to
pay four hundred dollars for a sleepover. I still have
to pay for my dress and hotel before the wedding
two weeks later, since I lived two hours away from
where the wedding will be. I think it's a bit
unfair that we weren't given an estimate or a general
idea what we were getting into. Am I wrong to
want to back out?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Okay? In this economy, sure, I don't know if you
guys have been to a garden lately. I haven't. I
go to Buffalo Wild Wings like every week. And that
the prices have come up. Even though you think things
are cheap, everything is more expensive. I think four hundred
dollars two nights and two.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Nights in an airbnb that seems to be kind of
in the middle of nowhere, Like it doesn't seem like.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
I guarantee this is an airbnb situation where they're like
eight and they're like, yeah, that's a love.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Sat No, no, no, she's going to be sitting on
the round. I don't think that this girl is in
the wrong for not wanting to do it, but I
do think her girlfriends are going to shade her if
she's like, it's too expensive, right, and you went on
my bacherette. It costs like thousands of.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
Dollars of person it was, and I was like week
So I'm like, I'm listening to this bride or her
bridesmaid's charging four hundred for what seems like maybe a
mild to tame to potentially lame weekend.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, and that's not nothing. That's money.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
But I think there's a certain threshold that you cross
price wise where it's like everything's more expensive now. So
in my mind, once I cross cross that threshold, we're
not going to all hall garden.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
That is a problem.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Like, if I'm already gonna be out money, let's ball up,
let's do something.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Two meals, make one of them nice. Although I think
we're all kind of like ignoring the unlimited breadstick situation.
Not soup and salad and salad and bread sticks like
they come to please like you're gonna be full.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, you can take some bread sticks home.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah, have you ever got the bag before you can go.
You can buy the bag from them, you bring them home,
you make them a home.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
A bag of the you like to put in the
oven because you like a little garden.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
But listen, I'm my heart lies at Chili's.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Care of.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Just price wise in the portions. And also I do
think that all of gardens a little bland. I think
that like you have to do a lot more work
to kind of get more flavor out there. But Chili's
there's a Yeah for me, it's outback.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Oh, You're like a bloomin onion.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
If someone was like, let's go, let's go to outback
and like when and where?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I do feel for this girl though, because they're gonna
talk shit if she doesn't go. Yeah. Also, she's making
it like it's two hours away and.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Like, bitch, that's not that far.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I like, not that far you could drive home after
the wedding.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And when I've heard so many really valid bachelorette complaints that.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Are like, you know, yeah, and this feels like some
people go to different countries for their bachelorette Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I liked when you on a previous episode talked about
whether or not you would come to my bachelorette if
you had broken a leg and you were like, Taylor
would be cool about it, and I was like, I
would be, but I would also make you come.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
No, I would have come. And then we decided. I
think on the pod that someone would have been my
designated pusher and that I would have gotten more attention
from male strippers. Yes, they would have been like, oh,
look at her.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
They would have done it to be all over you. Yeah,
they would have loved to be all over you. Maybe
this girl could fake that she broke her leg.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
But then you know she's gonna have something. I'll push
you the weekend.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
I think ultimately people get really sucked out. I think
you get sucked into the obligation to attend a bachelor
or bachelorette party because there's like confusion on what the
relationship is to the person where it's like, hmm, obviously,
like you could break both legs and you'd still be
at her fucking bachelorette party, you know, because you guys
are close. But there are some people that are They
(29:31):
assume that just because someone's like a bridesmaid or invited
to sometimes wedding, it's like, I don't know it's when
you really get get into the nitty gritty with them
and you ask them how close they are to them,
They're like, I mean we're like kind of close, and
it's like, oh, it's a social pressure, you know totally.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
What all happens is people get to be personality hires
and I'm so great person like, yes of this one
is a friend we've already mentioned, and the other is
my sister in law who went to my bachelorette because
it was like, she's my favorite.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Give her name Amber Senna.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
The Amber is so fun and like is so fun,
such a good gets along with everybody, always raises the
vibe that girl is. She I just saw her recently
and she was like, I'm going to a wedding and
people I met like two weeks ago. She gets She
wented to weddings left and right. She gets invited to
bachelorette left and right because she always raises the vibe.
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Molly is like that. Recently, before I even got engaged,
Molly was like, I Am not doing bacheorette parties anymore.
And I was like, whoa that is? You're scared? She goes,
I am not doing it anymore, not unless you're my
really good friend. And I went, oh, no, that's how
it works. You should only be going.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
So many because she's so fun.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
She's and she's too fun and she doesn't say no,
she does not yet.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
You can't bring the noise that he and the funk
that severely and then shocked when people are like, come home,
they're going to suck.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
You drive, they're gonna suck you dry. If you're a
Mollior and Amber and you are bringing the heat, the party,
the pussy, would you say the noise, the heat, the noise,
the heat, just I mean, I think I got fund.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
What's the starting lineup of a bachelorette party?
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
The cast?
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yeah, that's a fun question.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Okay, So I do think sister in law books, if
you have a future sister in law, Yeah, that could
be good or bad in my case and incredible, but
in some cases not that fun. You. I do think
lately my experience, there's been one person and I've been
this person who is like the recent friend that you
made like a maybe it's through work or through your
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neighborhood or whatever, and the recent friend books and it's
like so happy to book because it validates your friendship,
but they don't maybe know any of your friends. Yeah,
that's a person who.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
And that also like like in the movie Bridesmaid, it's
like sometimes that can cause tention from like the childhood
friend versus the new friend. Yeah, where there's always childhood
best friend, the sister in law, the recent friend, and
then there's like a slew of like like ensemble who
are like they've known you for years, we went to
college together. There's like three or four and they're kind
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of like the troublemakers because they're very close.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
They're close to most people in the.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Party, so they know they can get away with a lot.
I feel like that was kind of like me and
Molly and the bulk of your Yeah, where it was
like I knew we could just like because we just
know everyone and we're comfortable.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, you were also filling this lot of gambling addict.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I did gamble. I did gamble. I was just telling
the story to someone about how we were waiting for
an uber to get to the airport on the last
day of her Perhapsterette, I like, you have to tell
the story.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Mary goes, We're all so hungover. Mary had woken up
early that morning to go down to the casino and
won seven hundred dollars on a slot machine and was
pay for my hotel. She comes down, she's like, pay
for my room, and then she goes, I think we
should all come back to Vegas just for a gambling trip.
Anybody should wants to gamble, should come back. We should
just do a weekend reach est gamble. And then she's
(33:03):
like counting her money, she's waiting, she's beaming. All of
us are like, I needed to go to a hospital.
Taylor was like ivy in my arm. I was never tailor.
I didn't go to sleep. I did not see you
didn't sleep. I put myself through like military torture conditions,
like through the Bachelor. And then Mary looks at me
and goes, can you imagine like if you had a
gambling addiction, and everyone like, Larry, you have a gambling addiction.
(33:27):
You snuck to the casino in the morning and snuffs
to it. All the girls were in our cute little
costumes walking around the casino. We're like, where's Mary And
she's like tits on the table, sucking playing blackjack, and
we come up and we're like Mary, and she goes,
I'm all in a heat and we.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Like tailor please, You're like ruining, You're ruining the vibe
that I've cultivated.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Oh your grift that you were like, I don't know
what is called.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
She was and I was trying yestling. So that's a
person on the bed like, sure, all go to Vegas
and then is like robbing people.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
That is funny.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, the person with the secret agenda. Oh your bouzrette
party was so fun. And I also am ruined forever
for Vegas because so much of it was like paid
for by like weird sponsorships. Yeah, we got and then
and then we also did that thing that I think
is like crowd crowdfunding where we're like, here's a Venmo
for the bride. If you want a venmo her like
five dollars for a drink, and then people.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
And it us they did people.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
We got so much money from There.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Was nuts on the back of a rental car. If
you get like the little chalk paint thing on the
back window, people, do you do it for weeks?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Are it's really maybe just ten? You either hate to
see that or you're paying money or you're excited. It's
like so either you're either like, why would I ever
give a.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
You're like so much for like very discounted. We got
to like see shows like delicious food.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Like we had an incredible pool side chicken strips were paid.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Those were paid the pool side, all the drinks.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
I was like, you know, you have to send that
signal out somewhere where there is actively drunk people. Yeah,
because something you'll hit the right wave where I turn
into like the most philanthropic version of myself. Oh. When
I if I'm drunk walking past someone busking, I'm like,
everyone stopped, look at We've discovered the stock. And I
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wake up the next morning and I found this is
so humiliating. I've opened up my venmo the next morning.
Like it's even in West Hollywood. Mean, when there's like
someone just ran on like the corner by the the crosswalk,
just playing acoustic guitar, and I'll see like every every
time I walked by, I tipped them like five, ten, fifteenth,
And then I'm too drunk to put it on private,
(35:40):
So publicly I'm going, yes, bitch, I.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Didn't know it's about you. Yeah, Oh I relate to this.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
So I'm buying shots for people. I'm like, get your
birthday issues.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I'll buy the shots and then I will tip the
bartender and insane. I've had bartenders be like, man, stop,
They're like, you're gonna call in the morning and like
regret this. Tony's been like, you've got to cool, even
though you're also your husband.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I keep calling your husband because that's.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I've mentioned it twelve times in the podcast, but I
am Mary.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Her husband also famously like if we're all getting wasted together,
he'll be like, surprise, twenty five burgers for everyone. Yeah,
I know, like a bunch of McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
It's a hippy, incredible, but it. Yeah, you just get
drunk and you want to feed people, you want to
tip people.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
We can't take it with us.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
No, no, if I'm buried with my McDonald's money, oh
I'm going straight to hell. I don't want that. I
don't want it. I do want to tell my favorite
embarrassing Mary story really quick, if you guys have time.
We do always Mary found a debit card on the
floor of a bar with our good friend and goes,
(36:52):
you know what we should do because she was in
her devilish.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Little Sometimes it can in my heart, you do.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
And I love that about you. I think we all do.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
And this is also in my twenties, a different time.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, late twenties, and we've all been twenty, we've all
been twenty eight, twenty nine, turning thirty. And she turns
to our friend and is like, you know what we
should do. We should return it to the bar, order
a couple of drinks, and then leave it. You know
what I mean, Like, go up to the bar and
be like, we're gonna have two vodka sodas, give them
the card, be like, we'll leave it and then just never.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
You know, finders feet.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
And so our friend goes up and orders to vodka sodas,
and the bartender takes the card and turns to the
girl next to them and goes, was this the card
you were talking about? The owner of the debit card
was standing right next to them, shoulder to shoulder, a
girly exactly our age, which was in our twenties. And
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then our friend goes, oh, that's sorry. So yes, that
is the card that I am returning. And then this
is the card I want to put the drinks on.
And so she does. This whole thing is so uncomfortable,
gets the drinks, runs away. The owner of the debit
card finds Mary and our friend and comes up and
is like, what's wrong with you? You were about to
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buy drinks on my card? And Mary becomes a woman
that none of us have ever seen and goes, you
don't think she was gonna do that to you?
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (38:24):
She would never ever do you have something like that?
Speaker 4 (38:29):
And you don't know her.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
You know her, she has a heart of gold. She
was returning your card. Gas Light woman gas Light on
a level, lovelier level, defends this girl's on her because
it was Mary's sin. It was the first place.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I like had egged on my friend to I wasn't
brave enough. Look, I was smart enough to have the
finders the idea. Yeah, I was not brave enough to
do it myself, So I egged on a friend to
do it in the worst possible way. Then I'm feeling this,
like also, in my defense, me and this girl had
(39:07):
had an entire box of Frenzy out by ourselves.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
In my defense, I had an entire box.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
What else is in frendsy? It's not just wine, there's like.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, there's definitely like percincogs in that.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
So I was like tripping on whatever chemicals from this.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Box of front Was it sundset blush?
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Sunset blush?
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Is that the I know it was a red wine.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I like as well. I'm like, yeah, fancy it sucks
what flavor wasn't in this?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
But when Sinespia comes back around, let's all get a
box of Frenzy.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
And just Genespia is fun. Yeah. Sorry, that is another event.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
And I cross the street from it, so I get
to walk, so I have to figure out the parking standagans. Yeah,
when it comes around, we park in my house.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
We just walk over and I would cancel.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
On that b but sorry.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
So you know, I was drunk out of my mind
and I remember being like, you don't know her, she's
my friend. I'm going for a very long time. She
would never do that. She in fact was returning the
guard and then I think at one point I almost
had crocodile tears because I was like trying.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I was just like, yeah, the performance was big.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
The performance was huge, and our one of our other
friends was completely sober that night, and she was She
said that she had never felt like more embarrassed to
be our friends, and at one point like walked farther
away from us and we were looking for her, and
she just was like, it's just such a good it's
incredible story, but a shameful moment.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Well, this has been a delightful time.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Am I done? You were kidding? Is done with me?
Speaker 3 (40:42):
I think we're going to dry?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
No, we just we got everything we needed. You were
such a good guest, was I you were? You actually
really kept us on task, which is really nice.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
I validate me. Okay, she did, so I love no no, No?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Is that cardigan? That's great? Well, I complimented your necklace made.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Why was it stressful?
Speaker 4 (41:05):
By the way?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
That last?
Speaker 3 (41:06):
By the way, was that real or did you lie?
Like did you actually make that or were you.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Just yeah, I made it?
Speaker 4 (41:12):
Crazy? Lie?
Speaker 3 (41:12):
That would be well, I don't know. Sometimes people are crazy.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Taylor made this okay, So why was it stressful?
Speaker 4 (41:18):
To me?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
There's a little I mean, I'm sure you guys can
relate to this where I brought my girlfriend who I
cancel on all the time, and uh and who also cancels.
I mean, we can'cel on each other.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Which is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
By the way, that's a beautiful person.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
We have plans to be in each other's lives for
a long time.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Oh yeah, We're like, we're in here for the long term.
So like, if we can't do whatever, we can't do it.
But I thought, well, let's do something fun and creative.
I heard of this place where you make your own
charm necklace. And she has like a great sense of style.
So we go. We're gabbing, We're so excited. It's called
Charmed La, great little business. It's on Melrose and you
walk in and there's so many charms. Oh, it is
(41:54):
so adorable. There's like you could get a little miniature
like boba tea with a little boba in it, where
you can get you know, your initial made out of
pink pearls. There's all these options, and that is paralyzing.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Like we went from going this is so cute to
where both we have the tray that they give you
to pick and we're sweating. We're like, do you have
a time when we were there so long that we
got so hungry we were like not even speaking to
each other, starving, and they had held water. We were like,
oh it was it became like severe. She was picking
(42:28):
between a yellow a balloon animal and a green one
and she's like, what do I do, and I'm like,
I don't know, man, I think I have to pick
a theme. And she's like, what's the theme, and I'm like,
I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
She's like, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
What do you mean the year? And I'm like, I
don't know. I don't know what a year? And so
it really it really paralyzed us and it ended up
being like not fun. And then some girls came in
as we were kind of winding down. Because then once
you pick your chains, you put them on yourselves, which
involves looking at a microscope these little tools. I'm like
sweating and shaking from mountain irshman, and I'm like, I'm
glad I picked this gummy bear and I'm putting it on.
(43:04):
And then these five girls walk in it as like
a corporate retreat. They're doing it and they're like, ah,
this is so cute. Look at all the charms, and
we're looking at them like it's harder than you think
it and we hope you ate chin we're monsters. But
it makes me feel like I worked. Oh this necklace
and I wear it often and I do proudly say
(43:24):
that I made it because my blood's whatten't here. I
can't believe you had to put the charms on yourself ourselves.
It's like adult build a bit.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
I'm sorry, what are the employees doing?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
They teach you how to do it. She was lovely,
she had a really cool name, She had all kinds
of jewelry on, and she taught us how to do it. Okay,
but I ended up. Yeah, it was. It was just
like a really stressful time.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Oh Taylor. It was a delight to have you.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Oh I love you. Thank you, guys. I'm so glad
I didn't cancel on this.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Do you have anything you want to plug?
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (43:54):
If you could watch Going Dutch on Hulu, that would
be a really show. And even if you don't want
to watch it, put it on for your goddamn dog. Yeah,
let it just play for your cake and anything else.
I want to plug tron La and build a bear workshop.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Get you one of these, gets you one of these, baby,
Get you.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
One of these and go build a bear.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
I don't know, yeah, okay, thy thanks
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