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Jose Pereira (00:00):
Oh, yeah.
I have a YouTube channel witharound 21,000 people there.
I have my podcast.
I have a podcast calledBuilding for Zealand where I
talk about this.
I have a newsletter in LinkedInthat is growing very fast.
I have a heavy presence inLinkedIn, in Facebook, in
Twitter, and in Instagram.
I have around 100,000 followersbetween all the social media
(00:22):
today.
Everything that I do is not thequantity of the followers.
It's the quality of the messageand the tools that I provide.
because something that for mebecame key, Kevin, is to share
and help others.
Davis Nguyen (00:37):
Welcome to Career
Coaching Secrets, the podcast
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their success and the hardlessons they learned along the
way.
My name is Davis Nguyen, andI'm the founder of Purple
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Before Purple Circle, I'vegrown several seven- and
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Kevin Yee (01:08):
Welcome to Career
Coaching Secrets Podcast.
I'm Kevin, and today we arejoined by Jose Pereira.
He's been in the oil and gasindustry for over 30 years, and
he's been an independent coachfor the last two years.
Welcome to the show, Jose.
Jose Pereira (01:22):
Hello, how are
you?
Thank you for having me here,Kevin.
I know you're now in very far.
You're in Vietnam, correct?
Kevin Yee (01:28):
Yeah, I'm in Vietnam
right now during this recording,
which is very crazy.
One of the things, I reallyloved our energy during the
pre-podcast when we were talkingtalking before and all that.
And so I would just love tohear your origin story, the lore
of, I guess, what got you intocoaching and more importantly,
want to turn it into like abusiness.
Jose Pereira (01:47):
Well, as you
said, I did my career in oil and
gas, but that was not reallywhat marked me.
What really marked me was thatduring my career, I finalized
being the CEO of the company.
It's a big oil company here inthe U.S., Silco Petroleum.
And I'm being an immigrant herein the U.S.
Becoming the CEO of the companywas a big deal.
But that That was not my story,because my story was that I was
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getting retired.
I received a call to alast-minute meeting in
Venezuela, where theheadquarters of the company was,
and we were caught in themiddle of that geopolitical
thing that was going on at thatmoment between the U.S.
and Venezuela, and we becamehostage.
We were taken hostage by theVenezuelan regime, and we stayed
five years during thatnegotiation.
So our hostage situation wasduring five long years.
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So when I came back, I hadthree years that I came back.
In October, I'm going to havethree years.
in the first year in thathealing process and tried to,
you know, re-adapt my life.
And when I began to speak withpeople, people that are in my
community, the hostagecommunity, I began to think a
pattern that the people reallywere having hope when I was
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talking with them.
I was really helping them, notonly healing myself, I was
healing them.
And I said, wow, this issomething that I can really use
it to help others.
And that's why I decided tocreate this coaching program.
But because I came from theleadership space, I converted in
a leadership program because Ireally thought that this can be
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tools that I learned that can beused in your leadership
journey.
So I created this program thatis called the Unbreakable
Leadership Program where I mixedall those things that I learned
during those five years intowhat has to be a true leader, a
people that has having issues intheir leadership journey.
This is part of the thing thattoday I teach.
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So it's not a very complexinterventional leadership
program.
Kevin Yee (03:39):
So it's very
interesting.
So it sounds like you kind ofhelp out leaders from what it
sounds like.
What kind of problems that areyou noticing most leaders going
through right now?
Jose Pereira (03:48):
One of the first
thing, this is a common pattern.
When you're in a leadershipposition, you begin to have
conflict between your businessand your personal life.
So one of the things that Iteach them, how they can regrate
balance in their life, becausethat was something that I was
missing in my life.
Believe me, during five years,you have a lot of time to
rethink your life, revisit yourlife and see the things that you
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did wrong.
So now, one of the first thingsthat is fundamentally my
coaching is how you can regainbalance between your business
and your life.
You know, how you have thatcompensation.
That is the first thing.
The other thing is simple toolslike how can be a better
communicator?
How can be a more empatheticleader?
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How can be a more inspiredleader?
Because these were things thatI went through.
During my five years we weresix guys believe me you need to
enhance your leadershipabilities because that's what
made us survive today when youmirror that to your business
that is exactly what you have todo for example we were six guys
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in five years picture thisliving in a 100 square foot
space the probability that youbegin to have issues is very
high but what about if youdecide to create bonds what
about if you decide to be moreempathetic understanding the
other what What about if you'rehaving issues communicating
properly?
What about having a betterintegration with your peers?
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There are things that you cando in your business and then you
can become a better leader.
And these are what a successfulleader does, having a better
workplace.
And that's what we did therebecause we stayed five years
with our colleagues.
And believe me, we had veryminor things during five years
and we made it.
We came back and we're friends.
Kevin Yee (05:33):
It's really amazing
how you're able to take that
situation down in Venezuela andjust like really turn something
positive of it as well whichleads me to wonder too it's like
you're talking about thecoaching business but how do
people usually find you likewhat does your marketing look
like do you share this story
Jose Pereira (05:51):
yes I'm today a
speaker today I do speaking I go
to by the way I have been goingto college and universities I
have been doing conference Ihave been attending conference
today I'm connected to I becamea speaker in a very good bureau
it's run by a guy called BruceMarin.
He's from Las Vegas.
And he has been contacting mewith a lot of, you know, 500
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fortune companies.
So I'm beginning to do thistype of speaking directed to
leaders.
Because for me, it's key thatthe people understand how they
can really become better leadersin their business and in their
life.
Not only in their business, intheir life.
Because if you're missing oneof the pieces, you're not going
to be a good leader.
You have to have that balance.
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And this is what of the biggestunspoken challenges that
leaders have.
That you are a leader in yourbusiness and when you go into
your house, you are miserable.
You know, you have yourmarriage destroyed.
Your kid doesn't talk with you.
So you're having like a doublelife.
When you understand that youreally need to have that
balance, then you become to be abetter leader because now
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you're having a better balancein your life.
So this is something that forme is key.
So I do this during myspeaking.
I do master classes too.
And of course, I have mycoaching program
Kevin Yee (07:07):
You do a lot of
content marketing, too, like on
LinkedIn, social media.
Jose Pereira (07:11):
Oh, yeah.
I have a YouTube channel witharound 21,000 people there.
I have my podcast.
I have a podcast calledBuilding for Zealand where I
talk about this.
I have a newsletter in LinkedInthat is growing very fast.
I have a heavy presence inLinkedIn, in Facebook, in
Twitter, and in Instagram.
I have around 100,000 followersbetween all the social media
Speaker 02 (07:33):
today.
Jose Pereira (07:34):
Everything that I
do is not the quantity of the
fun.
It's that quality of themessage and that tool that I
provide.
Because something that for mebecame key, Kevin, is share and
help others.
The money comes after that.
Give the service.
Provide the service.
Be a utility.
And try to put your heart inthe lesson that you have
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learned.
For me, this has become morethan a business.
It has become like a mission.
Because this is something thatI could understand.
I'm a faith mentor.
based guy so i really believethat this this for some reason
god put me in this tribulationbut i could survive it and now i
i'm here today to help
Kevin Yee (08:17):
very powerful message
too like obviously there's a
lot of emotional resonance thatpeople are having with your your
stories your messaging and allthat what i'm curious about
through the coaching lens peopleare resonating with these
stories that you're talkingabout when people are interested
in coaching right or they havean inquiry about working with
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you.
What do your coachingmodalities look like?
I know some coaches doone-on-one.
You mentioned that you haveyour own coaching programs.
What does that kind of, what isthe modality?
I'm
Jose Pereira (08:48):
very one-on-one
because my coaching is so
particular that I try totailor-made with the person.
I'm more than a coach.
I believe that I've become likean advisor.
I see my coaching more like apersonal advisor.
So the people that work todaywith me, they have become my
friends, by the way.
I was finishing a coachingprogram a few minutes ago, and
we have become really goodfriends.
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Because I try to do it in apersonal way, in a very
confidential way, that thepeople can have the ability to
pour what they feel.
Because if the people want tohave change in their leadership
journey, they have to be honest.
And they have to be honest withthemselves.
I'm more than a coach.
I see myself like an advisor,even sometimes like a mentor.
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Because again, I went through avery extreme experience.
And I always tell the people,you don't have to go to my
experience.
You can use my experience.
So you don't have to walk myjourney.
You don't have to go throughit.
But believe me, sometimes whenyou are in your mental prison,
it can be even worse than beingin a physical prison.
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When you're stuck in yourbusiness.
So if anybody's hearing thisand resonate, I talk it to you,
my friends.
Kevin Yee (10:03):
You mentioned being a
mentor, being a trusted
advisor.
Sometimes when you turnsomething into a business it can
get kind of muddy waters iguess right and so of course you
don't have to give any hardnumbers but if you're open to it
i'd love to talk about pricingstrategy and how you price uh
your clients because this iswhere a lot of coaches who are
listening this kind of strugglethe most and so when you look at
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pricing how do you structure itlike is that project base is a
retainer do you pricespecifically
Jose Pereira (10:31):
i have i have a
retainer i have a retainer and
and i have some clients the wayi work with them is i don't have
fixed dates.
Because sometimes people thatare in some key positions,
sometimes they have timeconstraints.
So I try to adapt to their timeframe.
So, for example, it can be aweek that they cannot make it.
Okay, that's okay.
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We try to recap next week.
We try to have always everymonth like a recap session where
we revisit everything we didduring the month.
I use this guidebook.
If you go to my guidebook andyou open it, there's a lot of
empty pages that we begin tofill it up so when you finish
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the coaching you're going tohave a document that is going to
be valuable for you because youhave been working your own
journey I put them to think intheir journey and I share my
journey with them because all mypages always will have where
they put their journey and thenI give my suggestions so they
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when they finish this is a threemonth program when they finish
the program and they will havethis in their hands so they can
go back and revisit it.
And again, I'm always open.
Kevin, when you go to anexperience like I went, you
think that you see the things ina totally different way.
Believe me, you begin to seethe things in a totally
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different way.
If you see my life in the past,I was the CEO of a company, so
I know where they were because Iwas there.
I know their struggles becauseI was there.
I went through all the thingsthat Today I talk, I was there.
So this is not something that Ilearned.
No, no, this is lifeexperience.
We come from life experience.
Kevin Yee (12:15):
You mentioned
something really interesting.
You said that your life beforethe experience and after were
very, very different.
Can you paint me a pictureabout what that kind of looks
like?
Like, give an example of...
Jose Pereira (12:26):
Okay.
Jose Pereira in the past, fullof ego, full of selfish, full of
superpower, and everything isbecause of me, and bossy, you
know, bossy.
never had time to the family.
My wife called me.
I had never had time to her.
People that are hearing me canraise their hand.
This is me.
This is me.
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This is me.
This is me.
So that was me.
So what happened?
Now I'm in this situation in aprison cell.
I don't have no voice, no wayto go out.
Ego, gone.
Selfish, gone.
Because now I had to rely tothe people that are with me to
survive.
Thinking that you havesuperpower, now you don't have
Nothing.
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And now begging to have aminute call to my wife.
So all the things that I didwrong in the past, everything in
one second were gone.
So what do you do in thatmoment?
What do you do?
Do you try to go back to thisor you readapt your life to the
new situation?
Because you need to survive.
You have to be prepared for thelong run.
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So I didn't know when I wasgoing to come back.
It took five years, but it took15 years.
Kevin Yee (13:36):
There's no certainty
It's not like going in, you knew
it was going to be five years.
In your mind, it's indefinite.
So
Jose Pereira (13:44):
that retrains
your brain.
Definitely, it retrains yourbrain.
So that's why today, when Italk to the people, I talk under
the authority that had goingthrough it.
So I'm not saying, oh, becauseI learned this in Harvard.
No, no, no.
I learned it in a patient cell.
So I had a skill, because thisis another thing.
I did my career in oil and gasin the international side.
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And for For some reasons,during my career, I worked with
a lot of international cultures.
So I was kind of adaptive ofworking with a different
environment, but nothing likethis.
Nothing like this.
This, for me, was a totallydifferent experience.
And today, part of the thingthat I say that when everything
is okay, anybody can be a greatleader.
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You know, in a stable company,everybody's a leader.
But what happens when you'repushed from your comfort zone?
What happens when that floor ismoving and everything is
crumbling.
How are you going to handle it?
What type of leadership are yougoing to be?
So there's where comes thedifference.
When you, for example, I alwayssay that a leader has to have
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something that is key, is thatadaptability.
The leader is not adapted, iskilled, is done.
In today's world, you need tobe adapted.
And this is a matter ofmindset.
It's very typical.
By the way, here in the US,it's very typical.
The people are very square.
you know, they have thismindset and this is a way to do
this, follow the procedure.
Today, that is bullshit.
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I'm sorry to say that works,but it's that, because today the
world is changing.
You have to adapt to thesituation.
Whatever is the situation, youhave to visualize it and move
on.
And another thing, you have tobegin to have that clarity and
the focus to see the thing thatyou can control and the thing
you cannot control, because howmany leaders doesn't their self
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get burned out and godepressing, anxiety, the things
that they cannot control.
You really have to understandwhere you're sitting down, what
are the things that you cancontrol and the things that you
cannot control.
These are the type of toolsthat today I teach.
Kevin Yee (15:56):
Clearly you are very
passionate about this and the
way that you described yourbusiness is like really a
mission.
I see it like a mission, yes.
More
Jose Pereira (16:06):
than a business,
I see And
Kevin Yee (16:08):
so where do you, I
was going to use coaching
business, but where do you seethis like mission taking you in
the next few years?
Like, do you have any secretdreams, big ambitions people
don't know about?
Jose Pereira (16:19):
Well, I'm
following several steps in my
life.
The main goal is I'm opening anonprofit that is going to be my
legacy in the future.
It's already open and I'm goingto be launching it in a couple
of months.
It's called Angels HelpingEarth, where I'm going to be
helping trauma survivors becausethat's part of my journey.
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And by the way, I became a hostin a TV show that I'm going to
start in one month here inHouston.
It's in Spanish.
It's called UnbreakableLeaders.
I'm going to be interviewingHispanic leaders that have gone
through a journey and try toamplify it.
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So this, for me, today, as yousaid, more than a business, it's
a mission.
And part of my mission is usemy experience, use my testimony,
use my story that can empowerothers and help them.
So that's my mission today.
Kevin Yee (17:19):
As you're trying to
grow your mission, what sort of
challenges and bottlenecks areyou noticing right now?
Jose Pereira (17:25):
To be honest, I
have a lot of doors opening
right now.
A lot.
I have discovered that when youreally are clear in your
purpose and you're clearing whatyou want to do, and you have
the faith, faith in you andfaith in God, the doors begin to
open, friends.
The doors begin to open.
I'm today in that past that thedoors are being opened.
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I'm not saying that I'm nothaving challenges, but today I
see myself with a lot of doorsopening.
Kevin Yee (17:55):
Yeah, I see that.
I see just like coaching as oneof those things, but like not
the thing.
Jose Pereira (18:00):
No, no.
Coaching is part of my...
That is not the center of mybusiness.
For example...
I have done this year, I don'tknow, I love the amount of
speaking events that I have beenattending, but those speaking
events at the same time havebeen driving me some
one-on-ones, and also my bookhas been selling very well.
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My second book is going to beout tomorrow.
Tomorrow is going to be, yeah,my second book is coming out in
Amazon.
Tomorrow is called Unbreakable.
Everything for me isUnbreakable.
It's called Unbreakable, andthe The book is based on
biblical principles that Idiscovered during my journey
that can help you become abetter leader.
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Things that you answer, thatyou need, are there.
You can see there very greatexamples that great leaders that
did things, and they are in theBible.
So I took those lessons thatI've been getting during all
this journey, because believeme, after I came back during
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these three years I have beenreflecting to my journey and I
have been rediscovering thingsthat I didn't know why they
happened and things I wentthrough and that's had been part
of the missions that today Ihave and that's why I decided to
write that book because for methat can be a guide for people
that are asking for answers intheir leadership journey so it's
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going to be out tomorrow
Kevin Yee (19:32):
congratulations on
that the other thing that's on
my mind too you mentioned thedoors open How are you kind of
balancing everything, like thecoaching, the TV show?
There's a lot of differentmoving parts.
Well,
Jose Pereira (19:43):
because I'm a guy
that even in doing all this
stuff, I'm doing it in a veryorganized way that I'm not
losing the balance with my life.
For example, today I'm here.
This is my studio.
I have a studio here in myhouse.
So I do everything from mystudio, and when I finish here,
okay, I'm done for today, andthen I go and pick up my
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grandson and go with him to thesoccer play.
You know, so I try to have thatbalance.
And for me, someday I dedicateto the Lord.
So I have very clear my thingsbecause I had to profess what
I'm saying.
So I try to keep that balance.
Even though I'm doing a lot ofstuff, and you know, today also
you have a lot of technologythat you can use.
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I've become a big fan of theuse of AI too, so it helps us a
lot.
That's awesome.
So AI It's
Kevin Yee (20:38):
really interesting.
Have you ever thought about,well, because you're juggling a
lot and it sounds like you haveyour containers, uh, like
different containers and stuffof your life, but have you made
a hires, I guess, like whileyou're like doing all this sort
of stuff, do you have like.
Assistance or other coaches oranything?
Well, yes,
Jose Pereira (20:58):
yes, yes.
I have several people that areworking with me and my, my VA,
by the way, she lives in Dubai,but she worries me.
She lives in Dubai.
So we have this different timezone, but we have become very
good.
So she takes care of all mylogistics.
I have also a person that workswith me in the PR side.
And I have my agent that is ablessing, Bruce.
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I love this guy.
So he's helping me in thespeaking side.
In the coaching side, I havesome networking groups.
We do collaborations.
I have a friend in Austin and afriend in Dallas that from time
to time, we do things together.
Because I've been that one ofthe powerful things today is the
networking for me networkinghas been key in all my journey
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because through the networkingyou discover true connections
true powerful connections andagain everything is because when
you are walking in your purposeyou begin to vibe in a symphony
you begin to attract the peoplethat really you want to this is
the key too you have to attractthat right people to your life
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You have to be surrounded to theright people.
If you want to be successful,be surrounded to the right
people.
And how you can get it?
Vibration will attack the rightpeople.
You will create youratmosphere.
So this is something, it lookslike very esoteric, but that is
like that.
And let me tell you, everythingI told you today has been
confirmed by the neuroscience.
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Things that today looks like itwas only a spiritual thing, no,
are confirmed by theneuroscience.
So even today, when you talkthat you have to have faith in
yourself.
Neuroscience has confirmed thatyou, the observer, can
transform your reality.
It's confirmed.
And that is what faith is, whenyou believe in yourself.
Kevin Yee (22:48):
Yeah, it's like
really interesting.
Like, I'm really intoneuroscience, by the way.
So I'm always very cognitive ofour reticular activating
system.
So you
Jose Pereira (22:56):
agree with what
I'm saying?
Yeah.
Let me tell you something.
If you're a leader and you'rein a business and you are having
a bad mood, everybody's goingto be in a bad mood because
Yeah, totally
Kevin Yee (23:21):
agree with that.
I was just writing somethingdown.
There's so many life lessonsthat I'm learning here.
When you look back at yourexperience, right?
Because we're talking aboutkind of like the belief systems
and all that and the meaningthat we put to certain
experiences.
Speaker 02 (23:36):
I
Kevin Yee (23:37):
think this will be my
last question to you.
When you look back at thehostage situation that you were
in many, many years ago, what'sthe meaning that you put behind
that?
What would the old Jose sayabout that experience, and what
does the Jose nowadays look at
Jose Pereira (23:53):
that?
Let me say something here,because the old Jose, even
though I was full of ego andselfish, all this stuff, I was
not a bad guy.
I was a guy that always wasthinking in the people.
The people that worked with me,always had, I tried to be
human.
And because I had theopportunity to work with several
cultures, I had to have thatability because, you know, I can
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be talking today with anItalian and tomorrow with a
Japanese, and then talking witha Chinese, and then having to
talk with a British, and thenwith a French.
So different cultures,different religions, different
personalities, but everybody hassomething in common, that we
are human beings.
So that's the way to connect.
So I already had that kind ofability.
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when I went through thissituation I had to amplify not
only that the ability to surviveand when you are talking about
ability to survive you'recombining a lot of things that
can be resilience strengthintegrity empathy communication
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many things that you can mirrorin the work of life the main
lesson for me is that anythingin life you can survive if
you're at problem in yourbusiness, everything is
temporary.
Even your business can fall.
But if you're clear in yourmission, you will stand up and
you will learn and continue.
So this for me is the key thatyou have in yourself, inside
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yourself, what I call theunbreakable spirit.
Everybody has it inside.
Remember, we're creatures ofGod made to image.
So we have that inside.
What you have to do is amission.
You You have to discover thatsuperpower in you.
And when you do that, and youare working in your purpose,
because let me tell yousomething.
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Sometimes you can discover thatthe business that you're
running is not your mission.
It's not your vision.
It's not your purpose.
So that's why you're not goingokay with that business.
So maybe you have to dosomething.
So that could be awesome.
But if you're really clear thatwhat you're doing is what you
really want to do, my friend,pursue it and go for it.
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Today, for me, the wordimpossible doesn't exist.
Because it's not, I would notbe here.
I can stay here hours talkingabout all the things we went
through there.
I should not be here, but I'mhere.
I should not be here.
If you see this through humanlens, I should not be talking
today with you.
Kevin Yee (26:26):
It's really
interesting.
I think about that book, ViktorFrankl, Man's Search for
Meaning and stuff.
I read
Jose Pereira (26:33):
the book, Been
There, by the way.
That was one of my pivotalmoments when I had the
opportunity to read it in theprison.
Imagine the powerful messagethat guy was giving to us.
How you can find a purpose inthe pain and how you can find
your purpose.
And that for me was key.
I said, okay, I needed to comeback.
I have a family waiting for me.
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My wife, I already am going tohave 40 years in December.
So we're on long-term marriage.
I have sons and grandkids.
I love them.
So you begin to think in thatthing that really are important.
Because it is the other thing.
You give everything to yourbusiness, but when something is
going wrong, who is going to bewith you is you.
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People that love you.
That's the people that aregoing to support you.
Kevin Yee (27:18):
Were there any
affirmations during that time?
Were there any reminders,affirmations, kind of things
that a recurring phrase orthought that you had in your
mind?
Jose Pereira (27:28):
We did every
night.
That's a great question.
By the way, I mentioned that inmy book.
We did every night after weprayed, after we read the bible
we finalized the sixth with abig shout out saying we're gonna
come back strong in body mindand spirit and soul boom and we
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went to sleep and we slept likea baby and we did this in years
that that shut out every nightevery night he became like an
aunt we chatted out every nightyes
Kevin Yee (28:01):
i think we should end
it there jose how do you can
people find and connect with you
Jose Pereira (28:06):
I have my webpage
called JoseConnect.com because
I believe that I'm unconnected.
JoseConnect.com.
In that webpage, you will findeverything because I have a part
where I have my speaking.
You can see my speaking thingthere.
I have there my books.
I have there my coaching.
I have there my podcast.
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I have there my newsletter.
Very soon, it's going to be theTV show too there.
All my interviews.
I have a lot of things that Ishare.
If you go to my YouTube YouTubechannel, you will find a lot of
things that I share there.
And in my podcast, I try toeducate people.
I bring guests and myselftalking about things.
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This afternoon, I'm going tohave a very good friend.
She's from Mexico.
She's a two times PhD inneuroscience.
And we're going to talk aboutthe neuroplasticity of the
brain.
I'm going to have a show withher talking about that.
Kevin Yee (29:02):
Dude, I could talk.
Honestly, I could talk hoursabout that sort of stuff.
Thank you so much, Jose, foryour time today.
Really appreciate it.
This is not like a normalpodcast, I would say, that we
normally have, but it wasactually quite nice just hearing
your experience and kind of thelessons that we can all take
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away from that experience aswell.
Thank you
Jose Pereira (29:25):
so much.
I hope that your audienceenjoyed that.
Anything resonate to them,contact me.
That's it.
Kevin Yee (29:32):
Cool.
Awesome.
Davis Nguyen (29:35):
Thank you.
Thank you.