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July 8, 2025 34 mins

David Grad was once leading creative teams at MTV. Now, he’s solving one of the toughest problems in learning and development: how to make live training actually stick.

In this episode of Catalysts, David shares the origin story behind elevator9, the learning tech company he co-founded to ensure live training drives measurable, lasting impact. Drawing from learning science, cognitive psychology, and real-world application, elevator9 has created a platform that transforms what happens after the workshop—so that insights aren’t lost the moment people return to work.

We also explore the mindset shifts L&D leaders must embrace to position learning as a strategic value driver—not a cost center—and how David’s journey from media to learning has shaped his passion for empowering people through evidence-based design.

We cover:

  • Why most live training fails to deliver—and what to do instead
  • The core learning science principles that drive behavior change
  • How elevator9 uses AI to gather and analyze qualitative training data
  • A step-by-step look at how companies implement the platform
  • How L&D leaders can finally prove—and improve—their business impact
  • Why learning is a revenue driver, not just an expense
  • David’s advice for L&D professionals who want to grow their influence

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