December 4, 2025 • 42 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The CBS Radio Mystery Theater Presents. Come in Welcome. I'm e. G.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Marshall.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
What is always on our minds but seldom on our lips?
What is forever contemplated and never comprehended? The answer is death?
Shakespeare would seem to have said at all when he
wrote death unnecessary end will come when it will come?
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What is it really unnecessary end? That's the question that
that devils us, and in all probability will continue to
be devil us until well, I suppose, until we die.
Do you live in a house, of course? Do your
wear clothes?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Certainly?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Do you eat food?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yes? Now go away, you're beginning to annoy me.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Our mystery drama Dialogue with Death was written especially for
The Mystery Theory by Elspeth Eric and stars Paul Heck
and Fred Gwynn. It is sponsored in part by x
Lax and General Electric Citizen Band Radios. I'll be back
shortly with that one. The story we now bring you
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took place about one hundred years ago, a time when
no one knew anything about death, as no one had
known anything a hundred years before that, or a thousand
remain as no one knows now yet as then, as now,
there were fantasies about death, and it's on the basis
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of one of them that we have fashioned the story
that follows.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I remember it all so well, every detail, what she
was wearing at certain times, what she looked like at
certain moments, where we stood or sat, what she said
and how she said it, what I responded, place we walked,
food we ate, even the dishes we ate from, glasses
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we drank from. I'm seeing it all again, hearing it all,
feeling it all for the second time, a kind of terrible,
inevitable deja vous.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Strange, isn't it strange?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I loved her so much. I know. The year I
left for Heidelberg to study medicine, she was just a
slip of a thing, only sixteen. And when I came
back four years later, she wasn't simply four years older.
She was a new person, no longer a child to
tease and play games with, but a grown woman to
admire and respect and fall in love with, which I
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promptly did. Yes you did. Of course. My father had
written to me about her a few times, but nothing,
nothing had prepared me for the shock, the delirious surprise
that morning at the railroad station. Oh who Hart?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Whoa brure? George?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
That's your Lisa.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Oh, yes, sir, that's mine George.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Come that you'd never get here your life?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well the trap is it?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Jenny?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Don't say you don't recognize me?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I die?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
What happened to your pigtail?
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Your per on my head?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
See?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
And they're called brain? Come on, I tailed down in
the track. Your father still at the infirmary.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I can't get over how you've changed and you've gone
to muster. Well, I'm going to teach a class in anatomy.
A professor needs a mustag. But you you've changed completely?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Why do you keep chaying that?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Because it's true?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Well, here we are.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
You'll observe. We have a new horse.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
What happened to Princess?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
She went lame? We had to have it put down.
You wanted to take the.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Reins, all right? I learned to ride on Princess. Remember
we used to ride her there.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Back, the two of us, me in front, you behind.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Those wild gallops across the meadow.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Shall we get started? Your father may be home by now,
and Hannah's kind a special supper, and you're.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Hon it all right? Come on, come on, I really
love that sweet horse.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
All right, round is a dollar.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
You said you had her put down.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
She's dying now, just take a two year old, but.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
She's dead a few year. Often in your dreams.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
You mean, I mean I see her.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I sees it.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Come mind, George, let's get out of this snow water.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
On the way home, I tried to remember what she'd
been like when she first came to live with father
and me, A scrony child of nine or ten. Do
you remember her, Hannah very well. She didn't seem to
prood at all about her parents in the awful way
they died. She'd been too young to grasp the tragedy
of it all. I found myself hoping that father would
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be home by the time we arrived. I wanted to
talk to him about Jenny.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Hannah says, give a roast, not a ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Where's Jenny?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Father, Jenny, she's selling table. Well, it's good to have
you back, son. Sorry I couldn't meet your train.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And he explained her father about Jenny.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
How do you think she looks?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
She's grown up? But there's something else. On the way home,
she told me you had to have old princess put down?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Well, princess was nearly fairy. You know, we could have
had a putout pastor. But that's no kind of life,
Jenny says.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
She sees her running across the meadow, sound as a dollar,
looking like a two year old.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Oh as well she ever has she ever told you then?
Not directly, No, but I've heard her talking to old princess.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Talking to a dead horse. That's not healthy. Perhaps not
have you spoken to her about it?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
George? We have to remember the life Jenny's had, the
circumstances under which she came here to live, having seen
her father and her mother burned alive screaming from their
bedroom window. Well, that's a terrible thing for a child.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
But when she came to live with us, she was
just a normal little girl who was never anything morbid
about Jenny.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
There isn't anything more of it about Jenny.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
It's seeing a dead horse talking to a dead horse,
being preoccupied with death.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
That way, Jenny isn't preoccupied with death. She simply doesn't
believe in it.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
He doesn't believe in it. That's a peculiar thing to say.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Nevertheless, is troue true for Jenny anyway?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Well, I'm going to speak to her about it.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
You'll do nothing of the sort. You leave Jenny alone.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But it's morbid, father, it's not healthy.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Who are you to say what's morbid or what's healthy.
You leave that girl alone, George, I'm warning her, leave
her alone, or you'll answer to me.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I couldn't understand my father, a doctor who faced up
to death and fought at any number of times in
the course of his practice, as I was prepared to
do now that I had an MD after my name. Well,
and as you know, I took up my residency at
the local hospital and started teaching an evening course in anatomy.
My time was heavily occupied, but every minute I could
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spare was spent with Jenny. You remember how it was, Hannah.
I remember going to church together, attending Vesper's long buggy
rides on fine days, local dances, taffy pools, country fairs.
A long afternoon was reading in the summer house, as
we'd done when we were children. I felt the moment
approaching when I could be certain of my love for her,
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though I resisted it as long as I could, But
one late afternoon, sitting with her in the summer house,
I knew it was no longer any use to pretend
to myself or to her. Jenny, I love you. I
love you more than I can say, almost more than
I can bear. I've always loved you, Jenny. It's taken
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me all this long time to realize how much I
love you. Are you surprised? Not there? You mean you've
known it all along? That I love you? I wanted
you too. Use that means that you love me.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I do love you, George.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Oh, Jenny, Jenny, will you marry me? Won't? Of course
you will? I have to ask my mother. I'm sure
she likes you, Jenny, my darling, your mother. Might you
go in the house?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Will you let me stay here by myself for a
little while? Will you do that?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
My love? Well, if you want me.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
To, don't look so troubled.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Mother likes you very much, Jenny.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Father likes you too.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
A dozen conflicting emotions flooded my mind, Poor George, the
girl who talked to the dead. Could such a one
ever be truly mine? And a frenzy compounded of doubt
and desire. I told my father I've asked Jenny to
marry me.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Father, Oh, I thought you might do that? Well? I
approved has she accepted.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
You, she says, she loves me, But has she accepted
ya father? At this very minute, Jenny is in the
summerhouse asking her mother's permission to marry me.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Uh and her father's idee?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You see? Is that all you can say? You see?
Her father and mother have been dead for ten years,
but she is asking their permission to marry me. Doesn't
that strike you as a very strange thing for a
young girl to do? We mean when she said she
talks to a dead horse, sees it running across a meadow.
That was bad enough, But now to talk to a
dead father and mother, perhaps she thinks she sees them too.
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When father or she'll have me?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
What will I be taking for a wife the woman
you love? What more do you want?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
George?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Count yourself very fortunate, my boy, to yourself, the luckiest
man on earth.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
But I must talk to her about these hallucinations. I
must have it out with her before we can be married.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You will do nothing of the sort.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I forbid it, You forbid it. God's name?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Why Jenny's mind, George has a delicate balance. It swings
perilously between this world and another, never quite settling, never
coming to rest. Oscillating back and forth, vibrating like a pendulum. George,
don't tamper with that balance, Do you understand me, don't
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tamper with it? Oh, by Heaven, I swear. Yeah, Well,
never mind.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
You'll want father. We'll finish what you were going to say.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Look here, know you this, George, you's.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It, it's it's it's a gun.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yes, it's a gun. You say one word, George, that
girl about what you call her hallucinations, and I'll kill you.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
That's Jenny.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Remember what I said, George, Leave her alone or I'll
kill you.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I's all right, George.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
We can be married. My father gave us his blessing.
In my happiness and my expectancy. I drove away all premonitions,
all dreams, whatever. Ticking at the back of my mind
was the question, why had my father spoken as he
did so passionately, so violently.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
You don't know to you he loved her, violently, passionately
loved her.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Death has been written about very little. Love has been
written about a great deal, perhaps because love is the
beginning of everything and death is the end. But what
happens when love and death are intermingled, joined the one
to the other. In an eternal embrace. We'll explore this
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further enact too. So George and Jenny plighted their trot,
and under a dire threat, George's father forbade his son
ever to speak to his young fiancee about her curious
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attachment to all though she has loved, who have passed
out of this life. Then, under the spell of his infatuation,
George proceeded with the arrangements for his imminent marriage to
the girl of his heart.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
We spent long afternoons in the summer house spinning dreams
of the day that would unite us. We wanted an
extravagant wedding, at least I did. My father's big white
colonial house, set among great old oak trees, with its
center hallway, its winding staircase, its vast reception hall was ideal.
You remember it, Hannah, are too? Were after the ceremony.
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If it was a fine day, we would have the
collation served in the great rose garden, with a quintete
of musicians playing in tables laden with food. And I
shall be very dashing in my cutaway and striped trousers,
and you in what what will you wear? Jenny? I
don't know you mean you haven't ordered your wedding dress,
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not yet. I thought that was what young brides thought
about first.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
What I've been thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
You'll have someone come to the house to make it,
won't you. I don't know, sweetheart. The local shops are
all right for simple things.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I'd like something simple, I think, Wellness.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
You're sure. Look, why don't you take a trip into
the city and see what they have in the big stores.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
I do that.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Hannah will go with you and help you pick it out.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
I don't want how to to go with me.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
But Hannah has very good taste, Dear, she could advise me.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
I don't need Hannah to advise you, only man. My
mother will advise me. My mother will pick out my dress.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I started to speak, then closed my lips firmly against
the words. I remembered my father saying, Jenny's mind has
a delicate balance. It swings between this world and another,
oscillating back and forth. Don't tamper with it again. My
love drowned my fears, and I reached for Jenny's hand.
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What are you thinking about, my love?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
How about the wedding?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Why do you look so sad?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Who's to pay for it all. The caviare, champagne and
the musicians. Who's to pay for my dress?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
My dear, do you need money for your dress? For anything?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Who's to pay for it all?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Prescious, I'll give you money for the dress and the caviar,
the champagne, the musicians. My father will pay for all that.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Well, that's not right, of.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Course, it's right, Jenny. He expects to pay for it.
He wants to. You're like his own daughter.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
The father of the bride always pays for those things, Jenny.
He's always done that way.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
My darling father wouldn't have it any other way. I
know that he couldn't. My whole body stiffened. I murmured
some sort of excuse, told her I needed something from
the house, and I fled the summer house, leaving her
immobile pensive trouble. Inside the house, I found my father, Father,
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it's happened again.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
What's happened? Said Andrew.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I don't know what to.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Do, course, what's the matter is Jenny?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yes, she and I were sitting in the summer house
within there most of the afternoon making plans for the wedding.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, Well we got to the subject of.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Her wedding dress. It seems that she doesn't want it made,
she wants to buy it. So I suggested that take
the train into the city and maybe Hannah would go
with her to help her pick it out. Good idea, yes,
But Jenny would have no part of it now. She said,
my mother will help me pick it out. My mother
will help me pick out my wedding dress. Her mother,
who burned up in a fire, who's been in her grave?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Good, George, I know how you feel.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Am I to live with ghosts once we are married? George?
I live with ghosts.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
We all live with God.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Well, I don't propose to.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Well, what do you propose to do?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Father? I didn't say anything when Jenny spoke about her mother,
her dead mother, helping her to choose her wedding dress.
I thought of everything you had said, and I kept quiet.
I'm glad you did. But then then she suddenly looked
very troubled, very perplexed, and she said, Who's to pay
for all this?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Pay for it?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
It's the dress, the wedding, the music, the caterers.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Why I shall pay for it?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well, that's what I told her.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Well who else should pay for it?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Her father? Her father? Well, that's what she said. She
said it was only fitting and proper that the bride's
father should pay for his daughter's wedding. I think she
she expects her dead father to give her away. She wouldn't.
I don't know what she expects.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I thought she'd want me, I.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Know you forbad me to say anything to her about
her her congress with the dead. I do forbid you,
but now I must. It's gone too far.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Oh, George, it could be fatal. Where there she is.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I'm in here, dear, with father in the library.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Say nothing, George.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Oh, I'm so glad you're here. You can help me.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
What is it you need, Jenny?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
The second volume is something called Materia Medica.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Is there such a book.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
On the bottom shelf?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yes, with the red binding?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Oh oh yes, Now let's let's see here volume two.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
What are you looking for, dear?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Well, I'm not sure. Let me see that page.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Three hundred of.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yes, yes, it's here, Jerry. Is what is a thousand
dollars to pay for my wedding?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Her face was radiant. She spread the ten one hundred
dollar bills on the floor and gazed at them delightedly.
As for my father and myself. We stared at each other.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
He told me it would be here, your.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Father, of course, And here it is, Yes, there it is.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Oh is it wonderful, George, wonderful?
Speaker 4 (19:36):
You'll pay for everything?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Jenny, my dear, it's nearly time for supper. Why don't
you gather up the money and take it up to
your room change for dinner. I want to talk to George.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
All right.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
That's a good girl, you see, George, I told you
he wouldn't have it any other way.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
It wouldn't be proper. How did that money get their father?
Did you put it there?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Her father put it there.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
You are worse than she is. You put it there?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
And then somehow, No, George, Jenny's father put the money
in the book ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Did you know it was there?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Not until now?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
You say?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
It's money? He owed me money I lent him. I
never expect him to pay it back. And when he
tried to pay it back, I refused to take it.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
How did he get in the book?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
The night he came here to give it to me,
the night I refused it here in this very room.
I remember, After a long and somewhat stormy argument, I
went out to call him a carriage, left the ten
hundred dollar bills lying on the desk, and when I
came back to make my feace with him, the money
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was no longer there. Of course, I assume he'd put
it back in his pocket, but instead he hid it
in a book he knew i'd eventually open.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
It doesn't explain how Jenny came to know it was there.
Don't don't shrug and turn away. We have to talk
about this.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I don't have to, and I don't intend to.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
All right, then I'll talk to Jenny about it.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
No, you will.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I'm back here, George.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Father, I cannot marry a girl who's living half with
me and half with the dead.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
If you love her, you'll let her be.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I can't, Father, that girl.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Has some sort of communication with the dead that you
can't understand. But it's wrong, right or wrong. It's hers,
part of her. You must not interfere.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I have to, Father, you must not, and I have
to do it now.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Don't make me kill you, George.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Give me the gun, father.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
No, give it to me, George. I don't go to
hurt you. Give me that gun.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I'm sorry, Father, I'm terribly sorry forgive me. I put
the gun in my pocket. I look down at my father,
on his knees on the floor where i'd forced him.
His eyes were filled with tears for whom, for himself,
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for Jenny, for me, or what she had done to him,
for what he had almost done to me, or for
what I was about to do to her. I could
not tell. I went upstairs and lifted my hand to
knock on Jenny's door, and then I heard her voice.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Thank you, Oh, thank you, my darling. I knew I
could count on you. I've always counted on you, and
you've never failed me.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Mother.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Should I have my dress maid? Or shall we go
to the city and buy it?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
I wanted to be just right when I walked down
the big staircase. I want to look just right because
you father will be waiting at the foot of the stairs.
You'll cook your eye just so, and I'll put mine
to yours. Together we'll walk to where the minister where
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we standing.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Who's there? It's George.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Let me in.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I'm not punt, yes yours.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
It doesn't matter, George. Look at me, Jenny, look at me, Jehus.
Who was that you were talking to just now? That
was your father? Wasn't George and your mother. You were
planning your wedding with them, not with me. Not with them, Jee,
You were planning your wedding dress with your mother, not
with Hannah, who adored you, Hannah who helped raise you.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I heard you.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
You were telling your father he would give you to
me in marriage. Your father is dead, Jenny. He's been
dead a long time. And your mother too, dead, And
and Princess is dead too. Princess is not running across
any meadow looking like a.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Two year old.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Princess got to be an old horse. She was thirty
years old and lame. And someone came and put a
bullet between her eyes, and she died. And your mother
died too, and your father. They were burned in a fire, Jenny,
a long time ago. But you are alive, Jenny. You
are here and you are alive. You know that. And
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I am alive, and we are here, we are now,
and we are alive here, And now do you understand,
my darling? And Hannah will help you with your wedding dress,
and my father will pay for the wedding. And when
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you come down the staircase, he will be waiting for you,
and you will put your arm through his, and you
will walk together to the place where I will be
waiting for you, and we will be married. Do you understand,
my dearest girl? Do you understand? I was holding her
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arms and staring down into her wide, frightened eyes, and
flinging my words into her face. Her eyes grew wider
and wider. Their expression began to change. But what the
change was I could not tell. Was she beginning to
understand what I was saying? Or was she leaving me forever? Hannah?
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I could not tell. All I could do was hold
her close. Oh, George, you poor, poor nay.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
What does one say to someone who will not let go?
What does one do with such a person. It's all
very well to counsel them, let the dead pass, bury
its dead, But what if they scorn our advice then
cling tenaciously to what they had lost? Or do the
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lost ones cling to them as much as a living
hold on to the dead.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Do the dead not also hold on.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
To the living? I'll be back shortly. With the concluding act,
Jenny and George are about to be married, but it
troubles George that his fiancee still appears to commune with
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the spirits of her parents, who met their death in
a fire many years before. Indeed, Jenny appears to have contact,
both visual and auditory, even with a horse named Princess,
an aged mayor they both rode as children. It is
George's conviction that this morbidity must be erased from his
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beloved personality before she can become his wife.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Oh, Hannah, Hannah, I loved her, so I know it
was for her own sake that I did what I did.
Of course, for our sake, I should say, for the
health of our marriage, our life together. Perhaps my father
had been right when he said we all live with
our own ghosts, and Jenny should be allowed to live
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with hers. I was left in a torment of doubt
as I held her clothes.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Oh George, what am I to do?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Let them go, Jenny, Let them lie in their graves.
They're dead, my darling, but you and I are living.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
We were going to be married.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Aren't we.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
You know we are very soon. Now leave them, Jenny,
be with me, my dear girl. They have died such
things as loneliness, as grief, yes, joy too, and love.
They are for the living, for us, not for them.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
You really believe that, don't you.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
It's true? My dearest, you must believe it too. I'll try, no, sweetheart,
you must do more than that as you can.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I am going to be your husband, and you must
rely on me to tell you what is right. I
only want you to be happy. You know that. Oh, well,
then together we will exercise these ghosts that haunt you.
I shall try to be very patient, my dear love,
very patient and very loving, because I do love you
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more than pen can write or tongue can tell. And
you must trust in that love, Jenny, and believe with
all your heart that I know what's best. I held
her in my arms for a long time. Then, Hannah,
I think that you've called from downstairs that supper would
be on the table presently, and I released her to
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bathe and put on fresh clothes while I went down
to confront my father. He looked very gray and haggard.
It's done, father, Oh George, it was necessary.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
I know you think so.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I am convinced of it. I know you are if
we are ever to be happy together, I.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Know, I know, I know, George. I feel very badly
that I that I threatened you before the way I did.
We best forget that, father to threaten you with a gun.
I must have been mad.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
We'll just forget all about it. Here's your gunfather, No, no,
take it, take it.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
No, no, no no, I don't want it.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I want you to take it. It will help us
to forget what happened. It'll be as though it never
took place.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
No, you keep it, gun, George. I don't want it.
I never want to touch it again. I'm I'm afraid
there's nothing to be afraid of. Well, all the same,
I am afraid.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
All right. I'll keep it until you say you want
it back. So I put the gun in my pocket.
It seemed to make him feel a little better, as
though simply getting it out of his sight with a
step toward erasing the memory of that frantic night. Then
I think that you. Hannah announced that supper was served,
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and the three of us sat down to eat together. Hum.
None of us ate very much, which was understandable enough.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Oh yea.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Still we did manage to get through the meal. I
had done the right and proper thing. I was sure
of that. Oh sure, I know, I know. Nevertheless, that
is what I thought. The next morning, Jenny did not
come down for breakfast. My father and I left for
the hospital together, worked assiduously all day, and left for
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home together late that afternoon.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Hannah said this morning that Jenny was going in the
city day to buy her wedding dress. Oh that's splendid, Hannah,
want to go with her?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Jenny? Jenny went alone.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I don't like that, father, Oh, it does mess me anything.
But still you're afraid that Jenny still believed her mother
will help her choose a dress. Oh, I'm sure everything
will come out right sooner or later.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I told her she must have faith in my love
and my knowledge of what's best for her.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I hope she can do that. Have you appointed a
date for the wedding, George, Oh.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
The end of the month. We haven't decided on the
precise day.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Where will you live once you're married, or we haven't
talked about her? Could you would you consider staying on
with me. I'll be lonely without either of you. Now
that's selfish, I know, But George, I'm so used to
Jenny about the house. I miss her terribly. But I
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mustn't be selfish.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
It's all right, father. I don't see why we shouldn't
live in the house with you, but at least for
the time being. It is a nice house, a beautiful house,
quite large enough for three. The trees are beginning to budge.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
They'll be out for by the time of the wedding.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Sounds like a local fire engine.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I'm glad Jenny isn't home to hear that.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
God what it's the summer house.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Look at the smell. But someone else is burning. It's
on fire with Jenny. You tried to save her, Hannah,
I know that I tried. It was no use. Your
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father tried, but the fire had gone too far. Hannah,
who started the fire?
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Did Jenny started? If she did, it was my fault.
I had made her life unendurable when I drove away
her ghosts, I killed my own, sweet darling. Oh, it's
still ye at the summer house was quite old, the
wood was very dry. Could have burst into flame by itself,
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the merest spark. Will I ever know? Hannah?
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Want you?
Speaker 2 (33:16):
When? So?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I think.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
We mursed aside where she should be buried?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
George, Well, there's the cemetery. Of course. Hannah thinks that
would be best.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Her father and mother are buried there. I suppose she'd
want to be near them.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yes, well, whatever you say.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Perhaps I could get permission to bury her here on
the property. Yes, such things can be arranged. I believe
whatever you say.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
No, George, whatever you say, it's it's your privilege and
your right to decide. All I can think is that
she's gone, but I shall never see her again, never
hear her voice.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
We'll talk about it tomorrow, Yes, tomorrow, I'm I'm very tired, George.
I think I'll go up to bed all night.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Father. I'll sit up a while longer. I don't think
I can sleep well.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Aw, we'll make arrangements. Good night son, Good night father.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I'll look in on you when I come upstairs. Oh,
you don't need to, I want to. He pressed my
shoulder and I put my hand over his. For an instant,
I felt very close to him. I truly loved him, Hannah,
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I know you could take it. Later, when i'd grown drowsy,
I went upstairs, stopped at the door of his room
and went in without knocking in.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
He was asleep.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I saw him lying fully clothed on his bed, but
his shirt sleeve was pushed up above his elbow. I
think I knew he was dead even before I touched him,
and I knew how he had died. I found the
minuscule puncture of the needle on his arm almost immediately,
and later I found a slender needle where it had
rolled under the bend. I've never told you this before, Hannah,
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but now I feel I must kill me. I knelt
by the side of his bed, but the tears would
not come. I told myself, my father is dead. I
even repeated the word over and over to myself, and
then said it aloud. Dead, dead, dead. I kept saying
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I had lost her and now I had lost him,
all within the space of a few hours. I could
not comprehend how such a monstrous thing could have befallen me.
Do you understand?
Speaker 5 (36:06):
I understand, But.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I could not weep. I could not weep. And do
you know why?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Tell me?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Because I hated him. I hated the man I had
felt so close to such a short time before.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
And do you know why I hated him?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
And because he wanted to be ahead of me, even.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
There, even where joy there, wherever she was.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
He wanted to be there with her who told me
he loved her, he must be right.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
He left me and went to join her there where
there there, I don't know where wherever she was, I
don't know, so don't ask.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
Me where, tell me the rest of it.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I knelt by his bedside for oh, I don't know
how long, silent, frozen, angry, angry. Yes, no one had
cared enough for me. No one had thought of me,
my life, my lonely life that I had now to face.
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Both of them had left me without a thought. Do
you understand what I'm telling you, Hannah? I was living
in a pit of hell I never knew existed, filled
with fury, rage, and desperation. And then then go on,
and I go on. I got to my feet, and
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I go I reached in my pocket, I felt something.
I took it out of my pocket. I put it
to my head, because that's go on. I I just
heard something.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I didn't hear anything.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Sounded like a gun going off. I don't remember anything
like that.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
You will.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
When when you realize that you are dead, dead? Hi did?
How can that be your father's gun? From your pocket?
Speaker 1 (38:35):
And you put it to your head.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
George, and you fired. But I'm here talking to you, Hannah.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Can you see me?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Of course I can see you. I can't see you,
but I'm right next to you. You must see me.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I don't have such gifts, George. Jenny had them.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
But why can't you see me? I'm right here.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
It vibrated at a much faster pace than the living.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Can it be true that I am dead, that I
killed myself? It's true, George. Why did I do it
to join the others? Jenny, my father, oh.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
The others?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Where will I live now that I'm here in a house?
Speaker 6 (39:22):
I think a.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Large right have had? Will I be fed here?
Speaker 5 (39:29):
They say, you will eat at the essence? Here we
eat at the substance. But you will eat at the essence.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Hannah. Yes, George. Will I visit you now and then
talk to you?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I hope you will.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
You won't turn me away? Never, That's good. Listen, Hannah,
listen to that.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
What do you hear?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Don't you hear it? Hannah? Don't you hear it? You
must It's princess. It's old princess galloping across the meadow,
looking like a two year old.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
And that is how some people envision death and what
comes after. I cannot promise you that they are right.
On the other hand, I cannot tell you they're wrong.
I'm as ignorant and as undecided, as you or anyone.
But if they are right, should we keep our ears,
perhaps our eyes open for the sight and sound of
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those who have left us?
Speaker 6 (40:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Perhaps it is better simply to get on with the
only business that we know, the business of living. I
shall return. Someone said that the dead are not truly
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dead so long as they are remembered here on earth.
And that may be true, I'm not prepared to say.
But assuming that it is true, the flaw lies in
the fact that remembering can be so painful.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Remembering hurts.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Our cast included Paul Hect, Fred Gwynn and E. V.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Justter.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
The entire production was under the direction of Hyman Brown Radio.
Mystery Theater was sponsored in part by True Value Hardware stores,
Buick Motor Division and sign Off the Sinus Medicines.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
This is E. G.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Marshall inviting you to return to our Mystery Theater for
another adventure in the macabre. Until next time, pleasant Dreams.
The CBS Radio Mystery Theater Presents. Come in Welcome. I'm e. G.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Marshall.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
What is always on our minds but seldom on our lips?
What is forever contemplated and never comprehended? The answer is death?
Shakespeare would seem to have said at all when he
wrote death unnecessary end will come when it will come?
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What is it really unnecessary end? That's the question that
that devils us, and in all probability will continue to
be devil us until well, I suppose, until we die.
Do you live in a house, of course? Do your
wear clothes?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Certainly?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Do you eat food?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yes? Now go away, you're beginning to annoy me.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Our mystery drama Dialogue with Death was written especially for
The Mystery Theory by Elspeth Eric and stars Paul Heck
and Fred Gwynn. It is sponsored in part by x
Lax and General Electric Citizen Band Radios. I'll be back
shortly with that one. The story we now bring you
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took place about one hundred years ago, a time when
no one knew anything about death, as no one had
known anything a hundred years before that, or a thousand
remain as no one knows now yet as then, as now,
there were fantasies about death, and it's on the basis
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of one of them that we have fashioned the story
that follows.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I remember it all so well, every detail, what she
was wearing at certain times, what she looked like at
certain moments, where we stood or sat, what she said
and how she said it, what I responded, place we walked,
food we ate, even the dishes we ate from, glasses
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we drank from. I'm seeing it all again, hearing it all,
feeling it all for the second time, a kind of terrible,
inevitable deja vous.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Strange, isn't it strange?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I loved her so much. I know. The year I
left for Heidelberg to study medicine, she was just a
slip of a thing, only sixteen. And when I came
back four years later, she wasn't simply four years older.
She was a new person, no longer a child to
tease and play games with, but a grown woman to
admire and respect and fall in love with, which I
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promptly did. Yes you did. Of course. My father had
written to me about her a few times, but nothing,
nothing had prepared me for the shock, the delirious surprise
that morning at the railroad station. Oh who Hart?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Whoa brure? George?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
That's your Lisa.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Oh, yes, sir, that's mine George.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Come that you'd never get here your life?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well the trap is it?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Jenny?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Don't say you don't recognize me?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I die?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
What happened to your pigtail?
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Your per on my head?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
See?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
And they're called brain? Come on, I tailed down in
the track. Your father still at the infirmary.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I can't get over how you've changed and you've gone
to muster. Well, I'm going to teach a class in anatomy.
A professor needs a mustag. But you you've changed completely?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Why do you keep chaying that?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Because it's true?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Well, here we are.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
You'll observe. We have a new horse.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
What happened to Princess?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
She went lame? We had to have it put down.
You wanted to take the.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Reins, all right? I learned to ride on Princess. Remember
we used to ride her there.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Back, the two of us, me in front, you behind.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Those wild gallops across the meadow.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Shall we get started? Your father may be home by now,
and Hannah's kind a special supper, and you're.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Hon it all right? Come on, come on, I really
love that sweet horse.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
All right, round is a dollar.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
You said you had her put down.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
She's dying now, just take a two year old, but.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
She's dead a few year. Often in your dreams.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
You mean, I mean I see her.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I sees it.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Come mind, George, let's get out of this snow water.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
On the way home, I tried to remember what she'd
been like when she first came to live with father
and me, A scrony child of nine or ten. Do
you remember her, Hannah very well. She didn't seem to
prood at all about her parents in the awful way
they died. She'd been too young to grasp the tragedy
of it all. I found myself hoping that father would
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be home by the time we arrived. I wanted to
talk to him about Jenny.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Hannah says, give a roast, not a ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Where's Jenny?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Father, Jenny, she's selling table. Well, it's good to have
you back, son. Sorry I couldn't meet your train.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And he explained her father about Jenny.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
How do you think she looks?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
She's grown up? But there's something else. On the way home,
she told me you had to have old princess put down?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Well, princess was nearly fairy. You know, we could have
had a putout pastor. But that's no kind of life,
Jenny says.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
She sees her running across the meadow, sound as a dollar,
looking like a two year old.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Oh as well she ever has she ever told you then?
Not directly, No, but I've heard her talking to old princess.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Talking to a dead horse. That's not healthy. Perhaps not
have you spoken to her about it?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
George? We have to remember the life Jenny's had, the
circumstances under which she came here to live, having seen
her father and her mother burned alive screaming from their
bedroom window. Well, that's a terrible thing for a child.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
But when she came to live with us, she was
just a normal little girl who was never anything morbid
about Jenny.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
There isn't anything more of it about Jenny.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
It's seeing a dead horse talking to a dead horse,
being preoccupied with death.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
That way, Jenny isn't preoccupied with death. She simply doesn't
believe in it.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
He doesn't believe in it. That's a peculiar thing to say.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Nevertheless, is troue true for Jenny anyway?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Well, I'm going to speak to her about it.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
You'll do nothing of the sort. You leave Jenny alone.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But it's morbid, father, it's not healthy.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Who are you to say what's morbid or what's healthy.
You leave that girl alone, George, I'm warning her, leave
her alone, or you'll answer to me.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I couldn't understand my father, a doctor who faced up
to death and fought at any number of times in
the course of his practice, as I was prepared to
do now that I had an MD after my name. Well,
and as you know, I took up my residency at
the local hospital and started teaching an evening course in anatomy.
My time was heavily occupied, but every minute I could
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spare was spent with Jenny. You remember how it was, Hannah.
I remember going to church together, attending Vesper's long buggy
rides on fine days, local dances, taffy pools, country fairs.
A long afternoon was reading in the summer house, as
we'd done when we were children. I felt the moment
approaching when I could be certain of my love for her,
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though I resisted it as long as I could, But
one late afternoon, sitting with her in the summer house,
I knew it was no longer any use to pretend
to myself or to her. Jenny, I love you. I
love you more than I can say, almost more than
I can bear. I've always loved you, Jenny. It's taken
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me all this long time to realize how much I
love you. Are you surprised? Not there? You mean you've
known it all along? That I love you? I wanted
you too. Use that means that you love me.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I do love you, George.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Oh, Jenny, Jenny, will you marry me? Won't? Of course
you will? I have to ask my mother. I'm sure
she likes you, Jenny, my darling, your mother. Might you
go in the house?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Will you let me stay here by myself for a
little while? Will you do that?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
My love? Well, if you want me.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
To, don't look so troubled.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Mother likes you very much, Jenny.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Father likes you too.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
A dozen conflicting emotions flooded my mind, Poor George, the
girl who talked to the dead. Could such a one
ever be truly mine? And a frenzy compounded of doubt
and desire. I told my father I've asked Jenny to
marry me.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Father, Oh, I thought you might do that? Well? I
approved has she accepted.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
You, she says, she loves me, But has she accepted
ya father? At this very minute, Jenny is in the
summerhouse asking her mother's permission to marry me.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Uh and her father's idee?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You see? Is that all you can say? You see?
Her father and mother have been dead for ten years,
but she is asking their permission to marry me. Doesn't
that strike you as a very strange thing for a
young girl to do? We mean when she said she
talks to a dead horse, sees it running across a meadow.
That was bad enough, But now to talk to a
dead father and mother, perhaps she thinks she sees them too.
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When father or she'll have me?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
What will I be taking for a wife the woman
you love? What more do you want?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
George?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Count yourself very fortunate, my boy, to yourself, the luckiest
man on earth.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
But I must talk to her about these hallucinations. I
must have it out with her before we can be married.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You will do nothing of the sort.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I forbid it, You forbid it. God's name?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Why Jenny's mind, George has a delicate balance. It swings
perilously between this world and another, never quite settling, never
coming to rest. Oscillating back and forth, vibrating like a pendulum. George,
don't tamper with that balance, Do you understand me, don't
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tamper with it? Oh, by Heaven, I swear. Yeah, Well,
never mind.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
You'll want father. We'll finish what you were going to say.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Look here, know you this, George, you's.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It, it's it's it's a gun.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yes, it's a gun. You say one word, George, that
girl about what you call her hallucinations, and I'll kill you.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
That's Jenny.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Remember what I said, George, Leave her alone or I'll
kill you.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I's all right, George.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
We can be married. My father gave us his blessing.
In my happiness and my expectancy. I drove away all premonitions,
all dreams, whatever. Ticking at the back of my mind
was the question, why had my father spoken as he
did so passionately, so violently.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
You don't know to you he loved her, violently, passionately
loved her.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Death has been written about very little. Love has been
written about a great deal, perhaps because love is the
beginning of everything and death is the end. But what
happens when love and death are intermingled, joined the one
to the other. In an eternal embrace. We'll explore this
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further enact too. So George and Jenny plighted their trot,
and under a dire threat, George's father forbade his son
ever to speak to his young fiancee about her curious
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attachment to all though she has loved, who have passed
out of this life. Then, under the spell of his infatuation,
George proceeded with the arrangements for his imminent marriage to
the girl of his heart.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
We spent long afternoons in the summer house spinning dreams
of the day that would unite us. We wanted an
extravagant wedding, at least I did. My father's big white
colonial house, set among great old oak trees, with its
center hallway, its winding staircase, its vast reception hall was ideal.
You remember it, Hannah, are too? Were after the ceremony.
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If it was a fine day, we would have the
collation served in the great rose garden, with a quintete
of musicians playing in tables laden with food. And I
shall be very dashing in my cutaway and striped trousers,
and you in what what will you wear? Jenny? I
don't know you mean you haven't ordered your wedding dress,
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not yet. I thought that was what young brides thought
about first.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
What I've been thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
You'll have someone come to the house to make it,
won't you. I don't know, sweetheart. The local shops are
all right for simple things.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I'd like something simple, I think, Wellness.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
You're sure. Look, why don't you take a trip into
the city and see what they have in the big stores.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
I do that.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Hannah will go with you and help you pick it out.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
I don't want how to to go with me.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
But Hannah has very good taste, Dear, she could advise me.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
I don't need Hannah to advise you, only man. My
mother will advise me. My mother will pick out my dress.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I started to speak, then closed my lips firmly against
the words. I remembered my father saying, Jenny's mind has
a delicate balance. It swings between this world and another,
oscillating back and forth. Don't tamper with it again. My
love drowned my fears, and I reached for Jenny's hand.
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What are you thinking about, my love?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
How about the wedding?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Why do you look so sad?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Who's to pay for it all. The caviare, champagne and
the musicians. Who's to pay for my dress?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
My dear, do you need money for your dress? For anything?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Who's to pay for it all?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Prescious, I'll give you money for the dress and the caviar,
the champagne, the musicians. My father will pay for all that.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Well, that's not right, of.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Course, it's right, Jenny. He expects to pay for it.
He wants to. You're like his own daughter.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
The father of the bride always pays for those things, Jenny.
He's always done that way.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
My darling father wouldn't have it any other way. I
know that he couldn't. My whole body stiffened. I murmured
some sort of excuse, told her I needed something from
the house, and I fled the summer house, leaving her
immobile pensive trouble. Inside the house, I found my father, Father,
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it's happened again.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
What's happened? Said Andrew.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I don't know what to.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Do, course, what's the matter is Jenny?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yes, she and I were sitting in the summer house
within there most of the afternoon making plans for the wedding.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, Well we got to the subject of.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Her wedding dress. It seems that she doesn't want it made,
she wants to buy it. So I suggested that take
the train into the city and maybe Hannah would go
with her to help her pick it out. Good idea, yes,
But Jenny would have no part of it now. She said,
my mother will help me pick it out. My mother
will help me pick out my wedding dress. Her mother,
who burned up in a fire, who's been in her grave?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Good, George, I know how you feel.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Am I to live with ghosts once we are married? George?
I live with ghosts.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
We all live with God.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Well, I don't propose to.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Well, what do you propose to do?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Father? I didn't say anything when Jenny spoke about her mother,
her dead mother, helping her to choose her wedding dress.
I thought of everything you had said, and I kept quiet.
I'm glad you did. But then then she suddenly looked
very troubled, very perplexed, and she said, Who's to pay
for all this?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Pay for it?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
It's the dress, the wedding, the music, the caterers.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Why I shall pay for it?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well, that's what I told her.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Well who else should pay for it?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Her father? Her father? Well, that's what she said. She
said it was only fitting and proper that the bride's
father should pay for his daughter's wedding. I think she
she expects her dead father to give her away. She wouldn't.
I don't know what she expects.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I thought she'd want me, I.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Know you forbad me to say anything to her about
her her congress with the dead. I do forbid you,
but now I must. It's gone too far.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Oh, George, it could be fatal. Where there she is.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I'm in here, dear, with father in the library.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Say nothing, George.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Oh, I'm so glad you're here. You can help me.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
What is it you need, Jenny?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
The second volume is something called Materia Medica.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Is there such a book.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
On the bottom shelf?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yes, with the red binding?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Oh oh yes, Now let's let's see here volume two.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
What are you looking for, dear?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Well, I'm not sure. Let me see that page.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Three hundred of.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yes, yes, it's here, Jerry. Is what is a thousand
dollars to pay for my wedding?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Her face was radiant. She spread the ten one hundred
dollar bills on the floor and gazed at them delightedly.
As for my father and myself. We stared at each other.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
He told me it would be here, your.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Father, of course, And here it is, Yes, there it is.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Oh is it wonderful, George, wonderful?
Speaker 4 (19:36):
You'll pay for everything?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Jenny, my dear, it's nearly time for supper. Why don't
you gather up the money and take it up to
your room change for dinner. I want to talk to George.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
All right.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
That's a good girl, you see, George, I told you
he wouldn't have it any other way.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
It wouldn't be proper. How did that money get their father?
Did you put it there?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Her father put it there.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
You are worse than she is. You put it there?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
And then somehow, No, George, Jenny's father put the money
in the book ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Did you know it was there?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Not until now?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
You say?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
It's money? He owed me money I lent him. I
never expect him to pay it back. And when he
tried to pay it back, I refused to take it.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
How did he get in the book?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
The night he came here to give it to me,
the night I refused it here in this very room.
I remember, After a long and somewhat stormy argument, I
went out to call him a carriage, left the ten
hundred dollar bills lying on the desk, and when I
came back to make my feace with him, the money
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was no longer there. Of course, I assume he'd put
it back in his pocket, but instead he hid it
in a book he knew i'd eventually open.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
It doesn't explain how Jenny came to know it was there.
Don't don't shrug and turn away. We have to talk
about this.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I don't have to, and I don't intend to.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
All right, then I'll talk to Jenny about it.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
No, you will.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I'm back here, George.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Father, I cannot marry a girl who's living half with
me and half with the dead.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
If you love her, you'll let her be.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I can't, Father, that girl.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Has some sort of communication with the dead that you
can't understand. But it's wrong, right or wrong. It's hers,
part of her. You must not interfere.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I have to, Father, you must not, and I have
to do it now.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Don't make me kill you, George.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Give me the gun, father.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
No, give it to me, George. I don't go to
hurt you. Give me that gun.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I'm sorry, Father, I'm terribly sorry forgive me. I put
the gun in my pocket. I look down at my father,
on his knees on the floor where i'd forced him.
His eyes were filled with tears for whom, for himself,
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for Jenny, for me, or what she had done to him,
for what he had almost done to me, or for
what I was about to do to her. I could
not tell. I went upstairs and lifted my hand to
knock on Jenny's door, and then I heard her voice.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Thank you, Oh, thank you, my darling. I knew I
could count on you. I've always counted on you, and
you've never failed me.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Mother.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Should I have my dress maid? Or shall we go
to the city and buy it?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
I wanted to be just right when I walked down
the big staircase. I want to look just right because
you father will be waiting at the foot of the stairs.
You'll cook your eye just so, and I'll put mine
to yours. Together we'll walk to where the minister where
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we standing.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Who's there? It's George.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Let me in.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I'm not punt, yes yours.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
It doesn't matter, George. Look at me, Jenny, look at me, Jehus.
Who was that you were talking to just now? That
was your father? Wasn't George and your mother. You were
planning your wedding with them, not with me. Not with them, Jee,
You were planning your wedding dress with your mother, not
with Hannah, who adored you, Hannah who helped raise you.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I heard you.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
You were telling your father he would give you to
me in marriage. Your father is dead, Jenny. He's been
dead a long time. And your mother too, dead, And
and Princess is dead too. Princess is not running across
any meadow looking like a.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Two year old.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Princess got to be an old horse. She was thirty
years old and lame. And someone came and put a
bullet between her eyes, and she died. And your mother
died too, and your father. They were burned in a fire, Jenny,
a long time ago. But you are alive, Jenny. You
are here and you are alive. You know that. And
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I am alive, and we are here, we are now,
and we are alive here, And now do you understand,
my darling? And Hannah will help you with your wedding dress,
and my father will pay for the wedding. And when
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you come down the staircase, he will be waiting for you,
and you will put your arm through his, and you
will walk together to the place where I will be
waiting for you, and we will be married. Do you understand,
my dearest girl? Do you understand? I was holding her
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arms and staring down into her wide, frightened eyes, and
flinging my words into her face. Her eyes grew wider
and wider. Their expression began to change. But what the
change was I could not tell. Was she beginning to
understand what I was saying? Or was she leaving me forever? Hannah?
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I could not tell. All I could do was hold
her close. Oh, George, you poor, poor nay.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
What does one say to someone who will not let go?
What does one do with such a person. It's all
very well to counsel them, let the dead pass, bury
its dead, But what if they scorn our advice then
cling tenaciously to what they had lost? Or do the
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lost ones cling to them as much as a living
hold on to the dead.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Do the dead not also hold on.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
To the living? I'll be back shortly. With the concluding act,
Jenny and George are about to be married, but it
troubles George that his fiancee still appears to commune with
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the spirits of her parents, who met their death in
a fire many years before. Indeed, Jenny appears to have contact,
both visual and auditory, even with a horse named Princess,
an aged mayor they both rode as children. It is
George's conviction that this morbidity must be erased from his
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beloved personality before she can become his wife.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Oh, Hannah, Hannah, I loved her, so I know it
was for her own sake that I did what I did.
Of course, for our sake, I should say, for the
health of our marriage, our life together. Perhaps my father
had been right when he said we all live with
our own ghosts, and Jenny should be allowed to live
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with hers. I was left in a torment of doubt
as I held her clothes.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Oh George, what am I to do?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Let them go, Jenny, Let them lie in their graves.
They're dead, my darling, but you and I are living.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
We were going to be married.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Aren't we.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
You know we are very soon. Now leave them, Jenny,
be with me, my dear girl. They have died such
things as loneliness, as grief, yes, joy too, and love.
They are for the living, for us, not for them.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
You really believe that, don't you.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
It's true? My dearest, you must believe it too. I'll try, no, sweetheart,
you must do more than that as you can.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I am going to be your husband, and you must
rely on me to tell you what is right. I
only want you to be happy. You know that. Oh, well,
then together we will exercise these ghosts that haunt you.
I shall try to be very patient, my dear love,
very patient and very loving, because I do love you
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more than pen can write or tongue can tell. And
you must trust in that love, Jenny, and believe with
all your heart that I know what's best. I held
her in my arms for a long time. Then, Hannah,
I think that you've called from downstairs that supper would
be on the table presently, and I released her to
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bathe and put on fresh clothes while I went down
to confront my father. He looked very gray and haggard.
It's done, father, Oh George, it was necessary.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
I know you think so.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I am convinced of it. I know you are if
we are ever to be happy together, I.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Know, I know, I know, George. I feel very badly
that I that I threatened you before the way I did.
We best forget that, father to threaten you with a gun.
I must have been mad.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
We'll just forget all about it. Here's your gunfather, No, no,
take it, take it.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
No, no, no no, I don't want it.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I want you to take it. It will help us
to forget what happened. It'll be as though it never
took place.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
No, you keep it, gun, George. I don't want it.
I never want to touch it again. I'm I'm afraid
there's nothing to be afraid of. Well, all the same,
I am afraid.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
All right. I'll keep it until you say you want
it back. So I put the gun in my pocket.
It seemed to make him feel a little better, as
though simply getting it out of his sight with a
step toward erasing the memory of that frantic night. Then
I think that you. Hannah announced that supper was served,
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and the three of us sat down to eat together. Hum.
None of us ate very much, which was understandable enough.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Oh yea.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Still we did manage to get through the meal. I
had done the right and proper thing. I was sure
of that. Oh sure, I know, I know. Nevertheless, that
is what I thought. The next morning, Jenny did not
come down for breakfast. My father and I left for
the hospital together, worked assiduously all day, and left for
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home together late that afternoon.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Hannah said this morning that Jenny was going in the
city day to buy her wedding dress. Oh that's splendid, Hannah,
want to go with her?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Jenny? Jenny went alone.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I don't like that, father, Oh, it does mess me anything.
But still you're afraid that Jenny still believed her mother
will help her choose a dress. Oh, I'm sure everything
will come out right sooner or later.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I told her she must have faith in my love
and my knowledge of what's best for her.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I hope she can do that. Have you appointed a
date for the wedding, George, Oh.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
The end of the month. We haven't decided on the
precise day.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Where will you live once you're married, or we haven't
talked about her? Could you would you consider staying on
with me. I'll be lonely without either of you. Now
that's selfish, I know, But George, I'm so used to
Jenny about the house. I miss her terribly. But I
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mustn't be selfish.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
It's all right, father. I don't see why we shouldn't
live in the house with you, but at least for
the time being. It is a nice house, a beautiful house,
quite large enough for three. The trees are beginning to budge.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
They'll be out for by the time of the wedding.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Sounds like a local fire engine.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I'm glad Jenny isn't home to hear that.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
God what it's the summer house.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Look at the smell. But someone else is burning. It's
on fire with Jenny. You tried to save her, Hannah,
I know that I tried. It was no use. Your
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father tried, but the fire had gone too far. Hannah,
who started the fire?
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Did Jenny started? If she did, it was my fault.
I had made her life unendurable when I drove away
her ghosts, I killed my own, sweet darling. Oh, it's
still ye at the summer house was quite old, the
wood was very dry. Could have burst into flame by itself,
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the merest spark. Will I ever know? Hannah?
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Want you?
Speaker 2 (33:16):
When? So?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I think.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
We mursed aside where she should be buried?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
George, Well, there's the cemetery. Of course. Hannah thinks that
would be best.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Her father and mother are buried there. I suppose she'd
want to be near them.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yes, well, whatever you say.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Perhaps I could get permission to bury her here on
the property. Yes, such things can be arranged. I believe
whatever you say.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
No, George, whatever you say, it's it's your privilege and
your right to decide. All I can think is that
she's gone, but I shall never see her again, never
hear her voice.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
We'll talk about it tomorrow, Yes, tomorrow, I'm I'm very tired, George.
I think I'll go up to bed all night.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Father. I'll sit up a while longer. I don't think
I can sleep well.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Aw, we'll make arrangements. Good night son, Good night father.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I'll look in on you when I come upstairs. Oh,
you don't need to, I want to. He pressed my
shoulder and I put my hand over his. For an instant,
I felt very close to him. I truly loved him, Hannah,
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I know you could take it. Later, when i'd grown drowsy,
I went upstairs, stopped at the door of his room
and went in without knocking in.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
He was asleep.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I saw him lying fully clothed on his bed, but
his shirt sleeve was pushed up above his elbow. I
think I knew he was dead even before I touched him,
and I knew how he had died. I found the
minuscule puncture of the needle on his arm almost immediately,
and later I found a slender needle where it had
rolled under the bend. I've never told you this before, Hannah,
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but now I feel I must kill me. I knelt
by the side of his bed, but the tears would
not come. I told myself, my father is dead. I
even repeated the word over and over to myself, and
then said it aloud. Dead, dead, dead. I kept saying
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I had lost her and now I had lost him,
all within the space of a few hours. I could
not comprehend how such a monstrous thing could have befallen me.
Do you understand?
Speaker 5 (36:06):
I understand, But.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I could not weep. I could not weep. And do
you know why?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Tell me?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Because I hated him. I hated the man I had
felt so close to such a short time before.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
And do you know why I hated him?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
And because he wanted to be ahead of me, even.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
There, even where joy there, wherever she was.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
He wanted to be there with her who told me
he loved her, he must be right.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
He left me and went to join her there where
there there, I don't know where wherever she was, I
don't know, so don't ask.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
Me where, tell me the rest of it.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I knelt by his bedside for oh, I don't know
how long, silent, frozen, angry, angry. Yes, no one had
cared enough for me. No one had thought of me,
my life, my lonely life that I had now to face.
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Both of them had left me without a thought. Do
you understand what I'm telling you, Hannah? I was living
in a pit of hell I never knew existed, filled
with fury, rage, and desperation. And then then go on,
and I go on. I got to my feet, and
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I go I reached in my pocket, I felt something.
I took it out of my pocket. I put it
to my head, because that's go on. I I just
heard something.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I didn't hear anything.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Sounded like a gun going off. I don't remember anything
like that.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
You will.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
When when you realize that you are dead, dead? Hi did?
How can that be your father's gun? From your pocket?
Speaker 1 (38:35):
And you put it to your head.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
George, and you fired. But I'm here talking to you, Hannah.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Can you see me?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Of course I can see you. I can't see you,
but I'm right next to you. You must see me.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I don't have such gifts, George. Jenny had them.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
But why can't you see me? I'm right here.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
It vibrated at a much faster pace than the living.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Can it be true that I am dead, that I
killed myself? It's true, George. Why did I do it
to join the others? Jenny, my father, oh.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
The others?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Where will I live now that I'm here in a house?
Speaker 6 (39:22):
I think a.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Large right have had? Will I be fed here?
Speaker 5 (39:29):
They say, you will eat at the essence? Here we
eat at the substance. But you will eat at the essence.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Hannah. Yes, George. Will I visit you now and then
talk to you?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I hope you will.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
You won't turn me away? Never, That's good. Listen, Hannah,
listen to that.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
What do you hear?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Don't you hear it? Hannah? Don't you hear it? You
must It's princess. It's old princess galloping across the meadow,
looking like a two year old.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
And that is how some people envision death and what
comes after. I cannot promise you that they are right.
On the other hand, I cannot tell you they're wrong.
I'm as ignorant and as undecided, as you or anyone.
But if they are right, should we keep our ears,
perhaps our eyes open for the sight and sound of
(40:48):
those who have left us?
Speaker 6 (40:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Perhaps it is better simply to get on with the
only business that we know, the business of living. I
shall return. Someone said that the dead are not truly
(41:13):
dead so long as they are remembered here on earth.
And that may be true, I'm not prepared to say.
But assuming that it is true, the flaw lies in
the fact that remembering can be so painful.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Remembering hurts.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Our cast included Paul Hect, Fred Gwynn and E. V.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Justter.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
The entire production was under the direction of Hyman Brown Radio.
Mystery Theater was sponsored in part by True Value Hardware stores,
Buick Motor Division and sign Off the Sinus Medicines.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
This is E. G.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Marshall inviting you to return to our Mystery Theater for
another adventure in the macabre. Until next time, pleasant Dreams.
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