April 26, 2025 • 15 mins
This is a very special extra bit of Chat out of Hell. If you're interested in our thoughts on the Bat musical currently touring the UK, this is the right place!
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Sam (00:00):
Now, now, now musical special.
Emma (00:03):
Ding.
This is us recording ourthoughts and feelings about the
Bat out of Hell musical that wesaw a few days ago.
Sam (00:12):
Emma, what did we think of the Bat out of Hell Musical?
Emma (00:15):
I think we were both surprised at how much we enjoyed
it.
Sam (00:18):
Yeah.
my thought was, I'm annoyed athow much I enjoyed something so
stupid.
Emma (00:23):
I'm not a musical theatre kind of a person.
So I went in feeling quiteskeptical about it, and had a
thoroughly lovely time.
I still think musical theatre isabsolutely ridiculous.
but it was fun.
Sam (00:36):
So, there you go.
Listeners, that's your headline.
dead good.
Emma (00:39):
When I came out that theatre, I was full of joy.
It was great fun.
Sam (00:41):
five stars,
Emma (00:42):
Um, five stars.
Yeah.
Okay.
Sam (00:47):
five stars, you'll feel joy until you stop to think about it
later on.
Emma (00:51):
Yeah, that's it.
That's the review.
Sam (00:53):
our review.
Good.
Um, so if that's all you wannaknow, then that's you done.
See you later.
Emma (00:58):
Bye.
Sam (00:59):
else, we're gonna sort of dive into the plot and do
spoilers from now on.
So if,
Emma (01:02):
Mm-hmm.
Sam (01:03):
spoilers for a musical written by Jim Steinman about
Peter Pan.
It's about Peter Pan.
If that matters to you,listening, I guess.
so the show is post ApocalypsePeter Pan again.
Emma (01:16):
Mm-hmm.
Sam (01:17):
Peter is called Strat.
Emma (01:20):
Yep.
Sam (01:20):
guitar name in the world.
Wendy was called Raven.
Wendy's Hook,
Emma (01:29):
or Falco.
Sam (01:30):
Not the singer of Rock Me Amadeus.
he was a sort of one man policestate running a future horrible
city.
and then
Emma (01:40):
With like two cops.
Sam (01:42):
with two cops hanging out, helping him.
And then Tinkerbell was verycleverly changed to Tink.
Emma (01:50):
Hey.
Sam (01:51):
Mm-hmm.
And then it was just a plot ofPeter Pan.
they all fight for a bit.
Somebody nearly dies.
Wendy falls in love with Peter.
At the end, everybody's a bigdance and gets on and it's
Emma (02:02):
Yay, everything's fine.
It doesn't have to be any morecomplicated than that.
It's not a complicated story.
Um, there is nothing to belearned.
Sam (02:14):
especially not in the version that we saw.
So we came
Emma (02:17):
No
Sam (02:18):
thinking, that was a bit plot light, wasn't it?
Because Peter Pan and his gangwere immortal forever 18.
Emma (02:29):
Mm-hmm.
Sam (02:30):
and there was half a line of dialogue that said sort of
mutants that were always 18 andthat was it.
And then Falco was the leader ofsome dystopian city who again
got Falco is just, is thebaddie.
And that was it as well.
and we sort of came awaythinking Jim's really held
himself back here.
And then we both went home anddid some research.
And it turns out what we've seenisn't the whole thing.
(02:54):
It's not the full thing Emma.
Emma (02:56):
Dum dum dum! No, it's been massively cut.
Which is not at all surprising.
Do you think they waited untilafter Jim's death, before they
started hacking at it so thatthey could just cut everything
that they thought wasunnecessary?
Sam (03:15):
think is unnecessary is anything that isn't a popular
Meat Loaf song.
I.
We don't need plots.
We don't need exposition.
We don't need Not Allowed toLove or, Who Needs the Young?
All we
Emma (03:27):
Mm.
Sam (03:28):
is a cool young dude singing Bat out of Hell on a
pretend motorbike.
Emma (03:32):
and that's what we got.
Sam (03:34):
shade upon any of the cast.
'cause we absolutely loved allof the cast,
Emma (03:37):
Oh God, it was banging and um,
Sam (03:40):
gave these songs their all.
Emma (03:42):
yeah, the musical performances were amazing.
Sam (03:45):
a really joyous thing to watch.
But I do feel slightly robbednow that we've come away and
learned that that was basicallyhalf of the original show that
Jim wrote.
Emma (03:55):
Yeah.
A disappointment that, do youhave any particular favourite
characters
Sam (04:00):
you are not gonna like it, but I love the character of Tink
because of how utterly tragic itis.
So, Strat and his gang arecursed to be forever 18 in the
prime of their youth, They'rehaving great time forever, but
Tink is one of the gang, and shewas cursed to be forever 12 and
there's genuine, horribletragedy there.
(04:21):
And she was following the, thegang of.
Boiling over crock pots ofhormone all around the place
thinking like, I don'tunderstand any of this.
I just wanna play on my BMX
Emma (04:32):
But also desperately in love with Strat.
Sam (04:35):
in love with Strat'cause who You didn't like Tink, did
you?
Emma (04:39):
Only in that I find that kind of character really
annoying anyway.
Um,
Sam (04:44):
sure.
But I think
Emma (04:45):
and I know that that's what they're there for.
there's a lovely idea in there.
I just found it executed in anirritating way Sloan, Raven's
mum, she's the best character inthe whole thing.
Sam (04:56):
she was definitely
Emma (04:56):
I love, I loved that.
Sam (05:00):
She had a lot of fantastic lines, and she got to sing in
Paradise by the Dashboard Light,
Emma (05:06):
Yes, she did.
Sam (05:07):
in a
Emma (05:08):
And that was a highlight.
Sam (05:10):
Yeah.
we cannot fault any of theperformance or the staging the
musicians in, like the whole
Emma (05:16):
Mm.
Sam (05:16):
was brilliant rendition of the show as
Emma (05:20):
Oh yeah.
Sam (05:20):
the scripts they were handed.
But who, Emma, who hacked outhalf of Jim Steinman's plots,
Emma (05:26):
dream.
Sam (05:28):
his vision,
Emma (05:29):
Jim,
Sam (05:31):
We had an email from Stephanie, who saw this
Emma (05:34):
Ah.
Sam (05:35):
Vegas and had to explain to, their confused friend what
the plot was.
So we could have done withStephanie with us.
Emma (05:44):
We could have,
Sam (05:47):
For the bigger mega fans among you, this rendition is the
touring version of the show thatseems to have come about after
it finished its West End Run andwent to Canada and the
Emma (05:57):
Yeah.
Sam (05:58):
Jim's original vision only seems to have been performed, in
the UK, West End and Manchester
Emma (06:06):
Mm.
Sam (06:06):
is a tragedy.
Emma (06:08):
Yes,
Sam (06:09):
drive, a
Emma (06:09):
it back.
Sam (06:10):
into an explosion, tragedy.
Emma (06:15):
I enjoyed some of the fashion,
Sam (06:18):
Yeah.
Emma (06:18):
um.
It's post-apocalyptic, but fromthe point of view of the
eighties where post-apocalypticmeant biker leathers and crazy
skirts and lots of baremidriffs,
Sam (06:31):
Artfully torn jeans
Emma (06:33):
there was a pair of patchwork jeans that I fell
particularly in love with.
Sam (06:38):
and massively bouffant hair.
Emma (06:41):
Oh,
Sam (06:41):
the time these post apocalyptic kids must spend in
front of the mirror everymorning, hairspray
Emma (06:47):
get hairspray?
Sam (06:48):
Well, I think that's what's caused the apocalypse in that
universe.
Em is the CFCs from all thehairspray that they've been
using.
Emma (06:58):
Very likely.
Very likely.
I think.
Sam (07:01):
I had a thought as the show was starting, I was thinking to
myself, well, I don't wanna be18 forever.
Ooh, that's miserable.
And, and then I realized thatyou don't have to be 18 forever.
You have to be an 18-year-olddrama student
Emma (07:15):
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Sam (07:17):
full of that ebullient zest for life.
friends on the bus into town.
I, I've, I, I was never one ofthose kids, but I would
Emma (07:28):
No.
Sam (07:29):
be one now
Emma (07:30):
Yeah.
Sam (07:31):
like it if I woke up in the morning and the first thing I
didn't think about was, oh, myknee is off again.
and that's how the, showconcludes because at the end
after all the conflict and dramabetween Raven and her family,
and Strat and the Lost, Falcothe baddie just goes, do you
know, I, I, I'm gonna join themactually.
And he dresses up as a punk kidas well, and they all sing.
(07:52):
I'd Do Anything For Love.
Emma (07:54):
And that's it.
Sam (07:55):
There's no drama whatsoever.
Tink who was badly wounded andseemed to have died in a very
tragic show, halfway through theshow, just walks on and is fine.
Emma (08:04):
Yeah, no, no extra explanation for that.
Sam (08:07):
Nope.
halfway through the show, Strathas a horrific motorbike
accident at the conclusion ofBat Out of Hell,
Emma (08:14):
Mm-hmm.
Sam (08:15):
then is fine.
Emma (08:16):
Yep.
Sam (08:17):
the,
Emma (08:17):
Very little drama there.
Sam (08:19):
And, picking up a thread that was started back in Streets
of Fire.
This
Emma (08:22):
Mm-hmm.
Sam (08:23):
turns on the possession of one single gun.
In this horrible police stateenforced by the Draconian Falco
there is one gun that just getspassed around between characters
when
Emma (08:35):
Mm-hmm.
Sam (08:36):
each other.
Emma (08:37):
And when, when Falco turned sides at the end, didn't
think about this at the time,but I've had time to think now,
and all I can think is, yeah,but what about everybody else?
The people that aren't accountedfor in this musical, but
presumably there's like apopulation that are depending on
him as their leader.
You know what?
Who's gonna sort out all theadmin?
Sam (08:58):
Well, we had no inkling of that, Emma, because we had no
idea of what life was like fornormal people in the city or
even that there were normalpeople in the city because all
were of burnt out, ruinedbuildings.
Emma (09:11):
I kind of wanna write the story of a normal person in the,
you know, in that episode of TheSimpsons where Homer goes to
live with, is it Scorpio?
Sam (09:21):
Yes.
Emma (09:22):
Uh, and you start to see like the background of all of
the, evil villain stuff, orthere's definitely bits in
Austin Powers like that.
I wanna see the background.
Sam (09:33):
that's not what you just said, Emma.
you just said was you would liketo write Jim Steinman fan
fiction, and that is on therecord.
Emma (09:42):
Yeah, that's what I just said, isn't it?
Sam (09:44):
Yeah.
Emma (09:44):
Oh, maybe I should write some Jim Steinman fan fiction
Sam (09:48):
Oh God.
Listeners, and I regret sayingthis before I've opened my
mouth.
If you know of any good JimSteinman fan fiction
chatoutofhell@gmail.com
Emma (09:58):
oh no, but yes.
Sam (10:03):
Yeah.
So, that's our rundown of theshow and the good bits we
enjoyed.
Is there anything youparticularly thought, oh no.
What have you done that for?
Emma (10:13):
The mattress.
Can we talk about the mattress?
Sam (10:15):
can.
Yes.
this is probably the biggestspoiler in this whole podcast.
Jim Steinman's filthy mattresstakes center stage in this, and
we were both so excited when itappeared.
Emma (10:25):
Oh, I was aching with laughter from it.
Sam (10:27):
Yeah.
The people
Emma (10:28):
Um,
Sam (10:29):
must have thought we were idiots,
Emma (10:31):
yes.
Sam (10:32):
but this filthy mattress gets paraded around and has key
parts in various scenes.
Emma (10:38):
And I like to think that that's Jim knowingly putting it
in there.
I feel like it's, especially forus.
One day he knew that he would beinvestigated like we have been
investigating and, and theywould find out all about the
mattresses.
Sam (10:53):
think Emma, that his mattress warehouse was
overflowing and he had to putthem somewhere else, so every
production of the show got oneof his mattresses.
Here's one thing I thought wasvery silly.
We've not gone deeply into it,but all of the, the big hits for
Meat Loaf are in this musical,which means most of Bat out of
Hell and Bat out of Hell two anda few other bits.
(11:16):
It's All Coming Back to Me Now.
the song Objects in the RearView Mirror.
We've not covered it yet on thepodcast.
On Bat out of
Emma (11:23):
Yeah.
Sam (11:24):
That is a semi biographical song about Meat Loaf's
childhood.
across three verses in which hesings about his childhood friend
who died tragically, his abusivefather.
And then, a girl who he had a, arelationship with,
Emma (11:37):
Yeah.
Sam (11:38):
of redemption through a very difficult.
Youth, that song is given to TheLost to sing about how life was
hard before they found eachother, but it's been broken up
so that each verse goes to adifferent member of the Lost.
So
Emma (11:51):
This was stupid.
You are right.
Sam (11:53):
we had two people singing about their incredibly
difficult, tragic childhoodtrauma, and then a third guy
comes in and goes, I used to doa lot of shagging.
Emma (12:06):
Yep.
Yeah, that was stupid.
You're right.
Maybe before it was cut some ofthese bits that felt shoehorned
in made more sense, but that'sone of the songs that felt a bit
shoehorned in.
Sam (12:17):
That guy was called Jagwire
Emma (12:20):
Jagwire.
Sam (12:20):
do have to talk about the names that all of the Lost
Emma (12:23):
Oh God.
Sam (12:24):
which are fucking stupid.
Emma (12:27):
Yes, so there's Strat
Sam (12:30):
Strat and Tink are the the two leads in the lost.
And then the next level down,we've got Jagwire and Zahara,
Ladu, Blake Valkyrie,
Emma (12:44):
Valkyrie, Raven Falco and Sloan also have stupid names.
I,
Sam (12:49):
Yeah, that's true.
Foco is not the name of an evilcity dominating tyrant.
Emma (12:56):
no.
I was thinking about, the namesand what I would be called.
'cause Strat is obviously a typeof guitar, a Stratocaster, and I
discovered that Jagwire is acomponent in a motorbike.
Sam (13:09):
Of course it is.
Emma (13:11):
I, I figured I either have to go instrumental or vehicular
Sam (13:17):
uk.
Are you?
Emma (13:18):
well, I thought I could be Carla, which is a make of
ukulele.
Sam (13:21):
Oh.
Emma (13:23):
but I think I prefer Handbrake.
Sam (13:27):
Oh, Handbrake is, is a pretty good, rebel name, isn't
it?
Emma (13:30):
I'm gonna be Handbrake.
Oh yeah.
I don't really understandmotorbikes'cause they're
frightening and I drive a car.
Sam (13:38):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I drive an electric car, so I
think my cool Lost name is gonnabe Charging Port.
Emma (13:45):
Hey there, charging port.
Do you wanna do a song?
Sam (13:48):
Let's go Handbrake.
Emma (13:50):
Yeah, I think we've just written ourselves in.
Do you have any more opinions,Sam?
Sam (13:53):
I don't think so.
No.
Overall we really love thisshow.
We came out of it having
Emma (13:58):
We were buzzing.
Sam (13:59):
buzzing.
Emma (14:00):
I bought a t-shirt for fuck's sake.
Sam (14:02):
a t-shirt, five stars.
Independent Daily Mirror, DailyExpress, Metro, Manchester
Evening News and Chat out ofHell.
We've seen it relatively earlyin the run.
It's in Sheffield from the 28thto the 3rd of May.
Then it's in Woking on the 5thof May, Plymouth from the 12th.
London, Leicester, MiltonKeynes, Stoke, Wolverhampton,
(14:23):
High Wycombe, Canterbury,Southend, Sunderland,
Eastbourne, Bristol and endingin Northampton on September the
20th.
And yes, Americans, all of thoseare real places.
But yeah, it genuinely, if youlive nearby, if you live within
like an hour and a half, I wouldsay it's worth,
Emma (14:39):
It's well worth it.
Yeah.
Sam (14:40):
well worth an hour and a half.
Emma (14:42):
Yeah.
Sam (14:42):
if you are listening to this, you are as invested in Jim
and Meat as we are by
Emma (14:47):
Mm-hmm.
Sam (14:48):
get out and see it.
and do campaign for a fullperformance of the original
book.
Emma (14:55):
Yes.
Sam (14:55):
That was that Chat out of Hell.
as ever, keep your general MeatLoaf thoughts and anecdotes
flying in.
Did you see Meat Loaf going tosee Phantom
chatoutofhell@gmail.com.
We'll see you in another weekfor the next regular edition of
Chat Out Hell.
everybody.
Emma (15:12):
Bye.
Sam (15:15):
Bow now.
Now, now.
Now, now, now musical special.
Emma (00:03):
Ding.
This is us recording ourthoughts and feelings about the
Bat out of Hell musical that wesaw a few days ago.
Sam (00:12):
Emma, what did we think of the Bat out of Hell Musical?
Emma (00:15):
I think we were both surprised at how much we enjoyed
it.
Sam (00:18):
Yeah.
my thought was, I'm annoyed athow much I enjoyed something so
stupid.
Emma (00:23):
I'm not a musical theatre kind of a person.
So I went in feeling quiteskeptical about it, and had a
thoroughly lovely time.
I still think musical theatre isabsolutely ridiculous.
but it was fun.
Sam (00:36):
So, there you go.
Listeners, that's your headline.
dead good.
Emma (00:39):
When I came out that theatre, I was full of joy.
It was great fun.
Sam (00:41):
five stars,
Emma (00:42):
Um, five stars.
Yeah.
Okay.
Sam (00:47):
five stars, you'll feel joy until you stop to think about it
later on.
Emma (00:51):
Yeah, that's it.
That's the review.
Sam (00:53):
our review.
Good.
Um, so if that's all you wannaknow, then that's you done.
See you later.
Emma (00:58):
Bye.
Sam (00:59):
else, we're gonna sort of dive into the plot and do
spoilers from now on.
So if,
Emma (01:02):
Mm-hmm.
Sam (01:03):
spoilers for a musical written by Jim Steinman about
Peter Pan.
It's about Peter Pan.
If that matters to you,listening, I guess.
so the show is post ApocalypsePeter Pan again.
Emma (01:16):
Mm-hmm.
Sam (01:17):
Peter is called Strat.
Emma (01:20):
Yep.
Sam (01:20):
guitar name in the world.
Wendy was called Raven.
Wendy's Hook,
Emma (01:29):
or Falco.
Sam (01:30):
Not the singer of Rock Me Amadeus.
he was a sort of one man policestate running a future horrible
city.
and then
Emma (01:40):
With like two cops.
Sam (01:42):
with two cops hanging out, helping him.
And then Tinkerbell was verycleverly changed to Tink.
Emma (01:50):
Hey.
Sam (01:51):
Mm-hmm.
And then it was just a plot ofPeter Pan.
they all fight for a bit.
Somebody nearly dies.
Wendy falls in love with Peter.
At the end, everybody's a bigdance and gets on and it's
Emma (02:02):
Yay, everything's fine.
It doesn't have to be any morecomplicated than that.
It's not a complicated story.
Um, there is nothing to belearned.
Sam (02:14):
especially not in the version that we saw.
So we came
Emma (02:17):
No
Sam (02:18):
thinking, that was a bit plot light, wasn't it?
Because Peter Pan and his gangwere immortal forever 18.
Emma (02:29):
Mm-hmm.
Sam (02:30):
and there was half a line of dialogue that said sort of
mutants that were always 18 andthat was it.
And then Falco was the leader ofsome dystopian city who again
got Falco is just, is thebaddie.
And that was it as well.
and we sort of came awaythinking Jim's really held
himself back here.
And then we both went home anddid some research.
And it turns out what we've seenisn't the whole thing.
(02:54):
It's not the full thing Emma.
Emma (02:56):
Dum dum dum! No, it's been massively cut.
Which is not at all surprising.
Do you think they waited untilafter Jim's death, before they
started hacking at it so thatthey could just cut everything
that they thought wasunnecessary?
Sam (03:15):
think is unnecessary is anything that isn't a popular
Meat Loaf song.
I.
We don't need plots.
We don't need exposition.
We don't need Not Allowed toLove or, Who Needs the Young?
All we
Emma (03:27):
Mm.
Sam (03:28):
is a cool young dude singing Bat out of Hell on a
pretend motorbike.
Emma (03:32):
and that's what we got.
Sam (03:34):
shade upon any of the cast.
'cause we absolutely loved allof the cast,
Emma (03:37):
Oh God, it was banging and um,
Sam (03:40):
gave these songs their all.
Emma (03:42):
yeah, the musical performances were amazing.
Sam (03:45):
a really joyous thing to watch.
But I do feel slightly robbednow that we've come away and
learned that that was basicallyhalf of the original show that
Jim wrote.
Emma (03:55):
Yeah.
A disappointment that, do youhave any particular favourite
characters
Sam (04:00):
you are not gonna like it, but I love the character of Tink
because of how utterly tragic itis.
So, Strat and his gang arecursed to be forever 18 in the
prime of their youth, They'rehaving great time forever, but
Tink is one of the gang, and shewas cursed to be forever 12 and
there's genuine, horribletragedy there.
(04:21):
And she was following the, thegang of.
Boiling over crock pots ofhormone all around the place
thinking like, I don'tunderstand any of this.
I just wanna play on my BMX
Emma (04:32):
But also desperately in love with Strat.
Sam (04:35):
in love with Strat'cause who You didn't like Tink, did
you?
Emma (04:39):
Only in that I find that kind of character really
annoying anyway.
Um,
Sam (04:44):
sure.
But I think
Emma (04:45):
and I know that that's what they're there for.
there's a lovely idea in there.
I just found it executed in anirritating way Sloan, Raven's
mum, she's the best character inthe whole thing.
Sam (04:56):
she was definitely
Emma (04:56):
I love, I loved that.
Sam (05:00):
She had a lot of fantastic lines, and she got to sing in
Paradise by the Dashboard Light,
Emma (05:06):
Yes, she did.
Sam (05:07):
in a
Emma (05:08):
And that was a highlight.
Sam (05:10):
Yeah.
we cannot fault any of theperformance or the staging the
musicians in, like the whole
Emma (05:16):
Mm.
Sam (05:16):
was brilliant rendition of the show as
Emma (05:20):
Oh yeah.
Sam (05:20):
the scripts they were handed.
But who, Emma, who hacked outhalf of Jim Steinman's plots,
Emma (05:26):
dream.
Sam (05:28):
his vision,
Emma (05:29):
Jim,
Sam (05:31):
We had an email from Stephanie, who saw this
Emma (05:34):
Ah.
Sam (05:35):
Vegas and had to explain to, their confused friend what
the plot was.
So we could have done withStephanie with us.
Emma (05:44):
We could have,
Sam (05:47):
For the bigger mega fans among you, this rendition is the
touring version of the show thatseems to have come about after
it finished its West End Run andwent to Canada and the
Emma (05:57):
Yeah.
Sam (05:58):
Jim's original vision only seems to have been performed, in
the UK, West End and Manchester
Emma (06:06):
Mm.
Sam (06:06):
is a tragedy.
Emma (06:08):
Yes,
Sam (06:09):
drive, a
Emma (06:09):
it back.
Sam (06:10):
into an explosion, tragedy.
Emma (06:15):
I enjoyed some of the fashion,
Sam (06:18):
Yeah.
Emma (06:18):
um.
It's post-apocalyptic, but fromthe point of view of the
eighties where post-apocalypticmeant biker leathers and crazy
skirts and lots of baremidriffs,
Sam (06:31):
Artfully torn jeans
Emma (06:33):
there was a pair of patchwork jeans that I fell
particularly in love with.
Sam (06:38):
and massively bouffant hair.
Emma (06:41):
Oh,
Sam (06:41):
the time these post apocalyptic kids must spend in
front of the mirror everymorning, hairspray
Emma (06:47):
get hairspray?
Sam (06:48):
Well, I think that's what's caused the apocalypse in that
universe.
Em is the CFCs from all thehairspray that they've been
using.
Emma (06:58):
Very likely.
Very likely.
I think.
Sam (07:01):
I had a thought as the show was starting, I was thinking to
myself, well, I don't wanna be18 forever.
Ooh, that's miserable.
And, and then I realized thatyou don't have to be 18 forever.
You have to be an 18-year-olddrama student
Emma (07:15):
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Sam (07:17):
full of that ebullient zest for life.
friends on the bus into town.
I, I've, I, I was never one ofthose kids, but I would
Emma (07:28):
No.
Sam (07:29):
be one now
Emma (07:30):
Yeah.
Sam (07:31):
like it if I woke up in the morning and the first thing I
didn't think about was, oh, myknee is off again.
and that's how the, showconcludes because at the end
after all the conflict and dramabetween Raven and her family,
and Strat and the Lost, Falcothe baddie just goes, do you
know, I, I, I'm gonna join themactually.
And he dresses up as a punk kidas well, and they all sing.
(07:52):
I'd Do Anything For Love.
Emma (07:54):
And that's it.
Sam (07:55):
There's no drama whatsoever.
Tink who was badly wounded andseemed to have died in a very
tragic show, halfway through theshow, just walks on and is fine.
Emma (08:04):
Yeah, no, no extra explanation for that.
Sam (08:07):
Nope.
halfway through the show, Strathas a horrific motorbike
accident at the conclusion ofBat Out of Hell,
Emma (08:14):
Mm-hmm.
Sam (08:15):
then is fine.
Emma (08:16):
Yep.
Sam (08:17):
the,
Emma (08:17):
Very little drama there.
Sam (08:19):
And, picking up a thread that was started back in Streets
of Fire.
This
Emma (08:22):
Mm-hmm.
Sam (08:23):
turns on the possession of one single gun.
In this horrible police stateenforced by the Draconian Falco
there is one gun that just getspassed around between characters
when
Emma (08:35):
Mm-hmm.
Sam (08:36):
each other.
Emma (08:37):
And when, when Falco turned sides at the end, didn't
think about this at the time,but I've had time to think now,
and all I can think is, yeah,but what about everybody else?
The people that aren't accountedfor in this musical, but
presumably there's like apopulation that are depending on
him as their leader.
You know what?
Who's gonna sort out all theadmin?
Sam (08:58):
Well, we had no inkling of that, Emma, because we had no
idea of what life was like fornormal people in the city or
even that there were normalpeople in the city because all
were of burnt out, ruinedbuildings.
Emma (09:11):
I kind of wanna write the story of a normal person in the,
you know, in that episode of TheSimpsons where Homer goes to
live with, is it Scorpio?
Sam (09:21):
Yes.
Emma (09:22):
Uh, and you start to see like the background of all of
the, evil villain stuff, orthere's definitely bits in
Austin Powers like that.
I wanna see the background.
Sam (09:33):
that's not what you just said, Emma.
you just said was you would liketo write Jim Steinman fan
fiction, and that is on therecord.
Emma (09:42):
Yeah, that's what I just said, isn't it?
Sam (09:44):
Yeah.
Emma (09:44):
Oh, maybe I should write some Jim Steinman fan fiction
Sam (09:48):
Oh God.
Listeners, and I regret sayingthis before I've opened my
mouth.
If you know of any good JimSteinman fan fiction
chatoutofhell@gmail.com
Emma (09:58):
oh no, but yes.
Sam (10:03):
Yeah.
So, that's our rundown of theshow and the good bits we
enjoyed.
Is there anything youparticularly thought, oh no.
What have you done that for?
Emma (10:13):
The mattress.
Can we talk about the mattress?
Sam (10:15):
can.
Yes.
this is probably the biggestspoiler in this whole podcast.
Jim Steinman's filthy mattresstakes center stage in this, and
we were both so excited when itappeared.
Emma (10:25):
Oh, I was aching with laughter from it.
Sam (10:27):
Yeah.
The people
Emma (10:28):
Um,
Sam (10:29):
must have thought we were idiots,
Emma (10:31):
yes.
Sam (10:32):
but this filthy mattress gets paraded around and has key
parts in various scenes.
Emma (10:38):
And I like to think that that's Jim knowingly putting it
in there.
I feel like it's, especially forus.
One day he knew that he would beinvestigated like we have been
investigating and, and theywould find out all about the
mattresses.
Sam (10:53):
think Emma, that his mattress warehouse was
overflowing and he had to putthem somewhere else, so every
production of the show got oneof his mattresses.
Here's one thing I thought wasvery silly.
We've not gone deeply into it,but all of the, the big hits for
Meat Loaf are in this musical,which means most of Bat out of
Hell and Bat out of Hell two anda few other bits.
(11:16):
It's All Coming Back to Me Now.
the song Objects in the RearView Mirror.
We've not covered it yet on thepodcast.
On Bat out of
Emma (11:23):
Yeah.
Sam (11:24):
That is a semi biographical song about Meat Loaf's
childhood.
across three verses in which hesings about his childhood friend
who died tragically, his abusivefather.
And then, a girl who he had a, arelationship with,
Emma (11:37):
Yeah.
Sam (11:38):
of redemption through a very difficult.
Youth, that song is given to TheLost to sing about how life was
hard before they found eachother, but it's been broken up
so that each verse goes to adifferent member of the Lost.
So
Emma (11:51):
This was stupid.
You are right.
Sam (11:53):
we had two people singing about their incredibly
difficult, tragic childhoodtrauma, and then a third guy
comes in and goes, I used to doa lot of shagging.
Emma (12:06):
Yep.
Yeah, that was stupid.
You're right.
Maybe before it was cut some ofthese bits that felt shoehorned
in made more sense, but that'sone of the songs that felt a bit
shoehorned in.
Sam (12:17):
That guy was called Jagwire
Emma (12:20):
Jagwire.
Sam (12:20):
do have to talk about the names that all of the Lost
Emma (12:23):
Oh God.
Sam (12:24):
which are fucking stupid.
Emma (12:27):
Yes, so there's Strat
Sam (12:30):
Strat and Tink are the the two leads in the lost.
And then the next level down,we've got Jagwire and Zahara,
Ladu, Blake Valkyrie,
Emma (12:44):
Valkyrie, Raven Falco and Sloan also have stupid names.
I,
Sam (12:49):
Yeah, that's true.
Foco is not the name of an evilcity dominating tyrant.
Emma (12:56):
no.
I was thinking about, the namesand what I would be called.
'cause Strat is obviously a typeof guitar, a Stratocaster, and I
discovered that Jagwire is acomponent in a motorbike.
Sam (13:09):
Of course it is.
Emma (13:11):
I, I figured I either have to go instrumental or vehicular
Sam (13:17):
uk.
Are you?
Emma (13:18):
well, I thought I could be Carla, which is a make of
ukulele.
Sam (13:21):
Oh.
Emma (13:23):
but I think I prefer Handbrake.
Sam (13:27):
Oh, Handbrake is, is a pretty good, rebel name, isn't
it?
Emma (13:30):
I'm gonna be Handbrake.
Oh yeah.
I don't really understandmotorbikes'cause they're
frightening and I drive a car.
Sam (13:38):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I drive an electric car, so I
think my cool Lost name is gonnabe Charging Port.
Emma (13:45):
Hey there, charging port.
Do you wanna do a song?
Sam (13:48):
Let's go Handbrake.
Emma (13:50):
Yeah, I think we've just written ourselves in.
Do you have any more opinions,Sam?
Sam (13:53):
I don't think so.
No.
Overall we really love thisshow.
We came out of it having
Emma (13:58):
We were buzzing.
Sam (13:59):
buzzing.
Emma (14:00):
I bought a t-shirt for fuck's sake.
Sam (14:02):
a t-shirt, five stars.
Independent Daily Mirror, DailyExpress, Metro, Manchester
Evening News and Chat out ofHell.
We've seen it relatively earlyin the run.
It's in Sheffield from the 28thto the 3rd of May.
Then it's in Woking on the 5thof May, Plymouth from the 12th.
London, Leicester, MiltonKeynes, Stoke, Wolverhampton,
(14:23):
High Wycombe, Canterbury,Southend, Sunderland,
Eastbourne, Bristol and endingin Northampton on September the
20th.
And yes, Americans, all of thoseare real places.
But yeah, it genuinely, if youlive nearby, if you live within
like an hour and a half, I wouldsay it's worth,
Emma (14:39):
It's well worth it.
Yeah.
Sam (14:40):
well worth an hour and a half.
Emma (14:42):
Yeah.
Sam (14:42):
if you are listening to this, you are as invested in Jim
and Meat as we are by
Emma (14:47):
Mm-hmm.
Sam (14:48):
get out and see it.
and do campaign for a fullperformance of the original
book.
Emma (14:55):
Yes.
Sam (14:55):
That was that Chat out of Hell.
as ever, keep your general MeatLoaf thoughts and anecdotes
flying in.
Did you see Meat Loaf going tosee Phantom
chatoutofhell@gmail.com.
We'll see you in another weekfor the next regular edition of
Chat Out Hell.
everybody.
Emma (15:12):
Bye.
Sam (15:15):
Bow now.
Now, now.
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