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October 18, 2024 43 mins

Adam and Josh discuss current playoff baseball.

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Chirping from the pine.

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It's time to rage.
Oh, yeah, buddy. What's going on?
Welcome back to another fucking episode of

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Chirping from the pine.
So it's secure.
I just, I keep, I shout, I keep shouting out fucking
Lincoln Park lyrics? Yeah, because I hate Lincoln Park.
So, what do I do with a band that I fucking hate?
I sing all their goddamn songs.

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And now they live in your head, rent free forever.
Yeah, unfortunately. But apparently, well, the Dodgers are
living rent free in the Met's head forever.
Now, after this fucking series, probably. Yeah.
I mean, there's like some
self-loathing, blaming all the Dodgers players and
all that jazz as it comes with sports that

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it's everybody else's fault, but your own. Yeah, that's true.
That is true. And we're going to get to that when we talk
today about playoff baseball and just baseball in general.
My name's Josh. It's good buddy Adam right here alongside me.
The one, two punch, the fucking hitter.
The lead off in the cleanup. Yeah.
Fucking taking shit down.

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All right. That's it.
Let's talk about baseball now. Playoffs. Yeah.
First of all, I would just like to say you remember when
we used to do that thing where we'd be like super sarcastic.

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Oh, for a second, congratulate you.
You mean it in the most hateful way.
Yeah. I would like to do that now, Adam.
I would just like to congratulate you on having the Dodgers win
the World Series this year and hope they have one shit, dude.
I know that's why I'm doing it. I'm jinxing it.
So I think that the Dodgers are going to win this series.

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There's there's no I thought that this was going to be kind of
not closer, but this was going to be maybe trading back and forth
games for the most part.
After those first couple of games, it was like, oh, man, it was like
eight, it was like eight nothing fucking Dodgers.
And then it was like, what was game two was like?
I think it was the opposite.

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It was like it was like it was like seven, seven to one fucking Mets.
It was fucking tit for tat.
Like, yeah, I mean, it was that's kind of been the story for the
National League that the Padres when they face the Dodgers, it was
everybody was exchanging one game for another blowouts, but no real

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close games. Yeah.
And this series hasn't been any different.
And I'm slightly I want to say I'm slightly depressed because
I mean, you want exciting baseball.
And we got that last night with Cleveland winning in extra innings

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over the New York Yankees with I forgot that guy's name.
His name's Fry, but he ended up hitting the two run Dinger that put
them over the top to put this series at two to one.
Everybody's losing their goddamn minds.
But at the same token, they're still down a fucking game.
Well, that and again, that game was exciting.

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And I will say on the American League side, the games have been a
lot closer.
I mean, they've been the victories have been they haven't been close.
Like they haven't been one run games, but they've been closer than
these past met the National League series.
I mean, listen, game one was nine zip Dodgers game to seven three Mets

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game three, eight fucking nothing Dodgers game for ten to Dodgers.
I mean, these are blowouts.
These are fucking ass whoopens.
Whereas on the other side of things, you know, game one was five to
Yankees game two was six, three Yankees game three was seven five fucking
Guardians.
So arms reach.

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Yeah, it's doable that those deficits are overcome.
Now granted, like it was tied five five last game going into whatever the
10th inning or whatever it was that they walked off or whatever.
But I mean, but then you get a walk off.
So like that's OK, cool.
That's just how it ended.
But I mean, that was a close game, went to extra innings.
I don't I'm not sure if we're going to get that in a Dodgers Yankees

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World Series or even a Dodgers Guardians World Series.
Oh, man.
I think they're just going to be blowout games.
I think that's what we're going to get.
I mean, I don't think that, oh, man.
If you had a chance to see the small sample of the series that happened in
June between the Dodgers and Yankees, that shit was off the chain.
It was back and forth between both teams switching score leads.

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Yeah.
And if it ends up being the case that we get Dodgers Yankees, I mean, fuck,
man, you can't ask for a fucking better World Series than that.
Whether you're an adamant Dodger hater or Yankee hater, this is what

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baseball fucking needed.
I mean, dude, there are graphics, infographics talking about how this
National League series is the most viewed since 2009 or 2006.
And the NLDS series is like the one of the most viewed ever.
And it's obviously because of Shohei Otani.

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It might be even somewhat contributing with it might even be Yoshinobu
Yamamoto contributing slightly because it just kind of opens themselves up
to international markets and shit.
But, dude, I think baseball is like fucking back where it needs to be.
And sure, it's never going to be in the same realm as fucking, I guess,

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football.
But, man, it feels like at the very least it's inching upwards because
baseball has opened itself up to so many different markets across the world
that anytime somebody comes from Korea, the Dominican Republic, Mexico,
it's like you're inviting the world to the fucking game.

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And when they come to the major leagues, it just has everybody invested.
And I think that only is going to be further escalated with the World
Baseball Classic and now that baseball is going to be reintegrated into the
Olympics and the fact that I think the Czech Republic, if I'm not mistaken,
had one pitcher.
For a country that has little to no experience in baseball to have a guy on

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the Czech Republic throw out or rather strike out Shohei Otani,
I'm sure those guys are like fucking inching again to get to that world
stage, the World Baseball Classic to prove that they can be one of the
better teams even with the lack of experience or the number of years that
the U.S. had the chance to perfect their experience in baseball or whatever,

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even for the Japanese.
Yeah.
And I'll say this, as someone who is an avid Dodger and Yankee hater,
I mean, die hard, hate both of those fucking teams, a Dodgers-Yankees World
Series is what is best for baseball.
It's best for business, all right?
That's exactly what it is.
You've got the two largest fucking markets, L.A. and New York.

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East and West Coast.
You've got both coasts.
This is going to put baseball back in the fucking saddle, I guess, or whatever.
Yeah.
And you don't get that with a Dodgers-Cleveland, you don't get that with a
Mets-Cleveland, you don't really even get that with Mets-Yankees.
No, Subway Series would be dog shit.
That would be dog shit.
You get that with Dodgers-Yankees.

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And now that I have really no dog in the fight other than what's best for
business, I advocate for Dodger-Yankees World Series.
That's what I think it should be.
I think that'll be an exciting fucking series to watch.
I mean, I'm actually kind of like excited to see that.
Not that I give a shit about either of those teams.
I just like watching good baseball.
Good baseball, yeah.
And that's what I'm most interested in.

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So, you know, and granted, yes, listen, I have a connection with Shohei, right?
I mean, we went to the first game that he got his first home run at, you know.
As much as I hate the guy, I still want to see him fucking.
It's still going to be cool to see him win a World Series.
It's must-see baseball.
It hurts.
It hurts because it's not with the Angels.

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But I'm still kind of happy for the guy.
It's must-see baseball, dude.
It is. It is.
It's must-see baseball.
And it's...
I don't know if it's scripted.
I don't know if it's scripted.
It sure seems like it.
I don't know if it's scripted because I made a comment that I personally believe that it's

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to the benefit of baseball if the fucking Dodgers reach the World Series at this point, right?
Yeah.
Because anything else would not suffice.
The ratings for any other World Series combination, it's just not going to work, dude.
No one's going to give a fuck if the Cleveland Guardians make it.
Yeah.
I mean, assholes in Cleveland give a fuck about the Guardians.

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No one else in the country.
Yeah, sure.
There's fans of every team throughout the whole country.
There's no fucking team that has more fucking asshole fans than the goddamn New York Yankees.
All right?
There's motherfuckers everywhere.
I see fucking New York Yankee hats in non-fucking playoff times.
Okay?
Not even baseball season assholes are wearing Yankee hats.

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Same thing with Dodger hats, I'm sure, in other places in the country.
I don't fucking see anyone wearing Cleveland Guardians shit outside of baseball season
in fucking LA.
Yeah.
Or anywhere else, right?
Southern California, whatever.
New York Yankee shit, these are the premier fucking markets for the team.
Yeah, it's like any team that has social capital or any cultural icon influence, and maybe

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Houston has some of that now for the last seven years or perhaps even decade that they've
garnered enough hate from the baseball world about the 2017 World Series.
Yeah.
And in spite of the fact of how you feel about that specific topic, they were fortunate enough

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to win a World Series within the last two or three years.
Yeah.
And they shut a lot of people up, and I think a lot of people would be interested to see
the Houston Astros, whether they fucking like them or not, whether they think they're cheaters
or not.
A lot of people would tune in just to fucking see them lose.
Yeah.

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And they're one of those teams now that people are willing to watch to fucking see them, to
see their downfall.
Yeah, it's peak heel fucking energy.
This is, you now have a landscape in baseball that has excellent storytelling potential.
Oh yeah.
Even, I mean, listen, let's be honest.
This World Series, you are gonna have, if it does turn out to be Dodgers, Yankees, I

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mean, you are gonna have, I mean, listen, there's a lot of people that hate the Yankees.
The Yankees are going into this as basically the heel team, but their fans are so rabid
for a World Series win, because it's been what, 15 years since they've won a World Series?
2009, yeah.
Yeah, so it's been 15 years.
And they've spent a shit ton of money and haven't been able to get back.

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And their fans want it, their fans are clamoring for it.
Most of the rest of the baseball world still hates the Yankees from when they went on that
epic run that they did in the late 90s.
28 fucking, or 27 World Series or whatever the number is.
Yeah, well that late 90s to early, like mid 2000s, they were on a fucking tear.
They had Derek Gier, you had fucking all these assholes, A-Rod, you had all these fucking

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guys that they were like the Patriots of fucking baseball at that time.
And now the landscape has now shifted to, the Dodgers have been that.
The Yankees fell off for the last 15 years.
The Dodgers have never been on an epic run, which they are, this is the genesis of, this
is potentially the genesis of that.

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If the Yankees pull it off and fucking defeat them, man, this sets up a great storytelling
time for fucking next year.
Because the Dodgers are the baby face in this thing.
Everyone wants to see the baby face chase the fucking heel, right?
I think for storytelling, I think the Dodgers, if this shit's scripted, I'm going to say
this right now, I'm going to put this on the record.
If this shit turns out to be true, baseball is scripted.

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If it goes Dodgers Yankees and the Yankees win the World Series this year, if it goes
seven games and they win the World Series, baseball is scripted.
Because then next year, we're going to get the rematch and everyone wants to see the
baby face chase because that draws heat, that draws money.
This is going to set that up.
So now this year will be banging, probably the highest World Series views they've had

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in fucking who knows, a decade, maybe longer.
And then next year, they're going to do double that because everybody wants to see the baby
face get the payoff and then that's when the Dodgers will win the World Series.
I don't know if the Dodgers are faced with this situation because I think people or for
the people that care about baseball, I don't think they see the Dodgers as like the face

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solely for the fact that they're the fifth largest payroll they have fucking Shohei Otani,
Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts, which are three all stars in their own right.
Yeah, but those are good guys.
Those are like good ambassadors of baseball, right?
The Yankees have that tainted history of being that team that everybody hates.

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No one has been colloquially, except for me, I'm the only motherfucker who's hated the
doctors probably, right?
But no one hates the Dodgers because they've never been a threat.
I shouldn't say they never been a threat, but they've never gone on a run, right?
At least in the last 30 years, right?
The Yankees did that.
The Patriots will be forever hated by most fucking football fans because of the run that

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they went on over the last 20 years.
The Yankees will be forever hated by most baseball fans, at least now, because of that
run they went on in the late 90s, the early 2000s.
There really hasn't been an MLB team other than the Astros.
Again, there's a lot of people that are gonna hate the Astros.
Not that they went on an insane epic run.

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They did, somewhat.
It was like a half, it was like a half a run maybe.
It wasn't that they won World Series.
It was the way they did it.
It was just that they were consistently good and they reached the World Series.
A bunch of times, right?
And that was in short order of the last seven to 10 years, and that they built enough cache
or social capital and hate.

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Right, it's the same thing with the Lakers.
There's a ton of, and the Chicago Bulls, tons of people are fucking bull haters because
of the fact that they went on an epic run.
There's a lot of assholes that are bull fans because of that.
The same thing with the Lakers.
There's a ton of people hate the fucking Lakers.
Every other state in the country hates the Lakers, with the exception of people in Southern

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California, because that's our team, right?
So because of that epic run that they went on, everyone fucking hates them.
And it's like the Cowboys.
There's a lot of people that, it's been too long.
I think now the hate for the Cowboys is starting to dwindle because it's been so long since
they've been relevant in the NFL.
But there was that period during the 90s where they were fucking the shit team.

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They were it.
They were the fucking guys that were doing all this shit.
And that's how you got all these assholes with these major, in major markets that are
just diehard Cowboy fans because of that.
And that's one of the things that's crazy is like out here, I've met way more people
who are Dallas Cowboy fans.
Yeah, that shit's wild.
And I have out of out of I think I've met like five people who are Patriot fans along

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with me.
For some reason, that thing didn't translate like the Patriots like that thing there.
They developed, I feel like more haters than they did growing of fans.
Right.
And which was weird because the Yankees, like all these teams that did all this shit, you
see their shit everywhere.
I don't see a lot of Patriot shit out here or really anywhere else other than like people

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in New England.
Yeah, there are contingents of fans.
That's I'm not saying that doesn't exist, but it's not to the level of like people throughout
the country like being Cowboys fans, being fucking Yankee fans, all that kind of shit,
you know.
So but again, storytelling wise, the Dodgers are the face in this scenario between them

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and the Yankees.
The Yankees still have that hate.
They still have that.
There's a deep seated hate amongst millennial fucking baseball fans, millennial and older
because of that run that they went on.
I think this is rock and fucking stone cold.
I think this is 50 50.
Yeah, maybe.
Well, it's rock and hogan tweener tweener.
Yeah, sure.

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Very good.
Weiner versus tweener versus tweener.
Yeah.
But either way, it's excellent storytelling.
Oh, yeah, it is.
And this is going to be fucking amazing.
Yeah.
So I can't wait.
We may have to fucking do a game.
We have to do episodes for the World Series.
Just just talking about game one and every single game we may we may have to do after
this when they when they pop up.

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Yeah.
As far as the Dodgers go, man, I hate to say it, but I had something of a blind faith for
the fact that they would get this far.
Because I was I was telling you before we even did this podcast that I believe that
they were due for this run simply for the fact since the All-Star break that their bullpen

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had been stretched to the limits.
Yeah.
That they were put in every fucking scenario that guys were being put in spot spot starts.
Guys were put in long relief.
And this was coupled with the fact that they had something of a makeshift starting rotation
because guys were going down every five seconds and all this shit.
So I was of the opinion like internally that because they had done dress rehearsal for

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the last 90 games of the season of the second half of the season and having to stay in front
of the San Diego Padres who ended up being three games behind them in the last week of
the season to to basically have the last week of the regular season be playoff baseball
for the Dodgers that they were weathering these hard times to be in a situation to play

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in the NLCS.
And yeah, I mean, the Dodgers have been lucky in getting somebody they got in the MLB trade
deadline Jack Flaherty from the Detroit Tigers to go seven innings.
That's one starter that has gone beyond six plus innings, whereas their other starters

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have only gone four or five innings.
So it's not like guys are going fucking deep for them.
The bullpen has to the bullpen has had to come in and finish the job and finish out
the last five innings of the that's been like every fucking game.
And I'm like, dude, they've been doing that for 90 fucking games.
No wonder they're fucking in the situation that they're in, that there have been lights

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out that they have four shut out games in the last six games.
Like that's that's fucking nuts.
That hasn't been done since like, I don't even remember what the record was.
It's like the fucking Giants from the 1930s or 1950s or whatever the fuck it was.
But I think they're going to end up closing out this series today.

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Have it a wrap, have a wrap up.
And then we see what happens with Cleveland and New York.
Maybe fucking Cleveland starts to get hot with this win, especially coming off a walk
off when you don't know how that will change the chemistry of a fucking matchup.
That shit's I mean, that that could probably light a fucking a lot of fire under the Cleveland
Guardians asses.

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And it could I feel like it's going to go seven.
I feel like it's going to go seven.
I feel the opposite.
I feel like this is it.
This is this is this will be the end.
The Yankees will close this out now.
This this will have pissed them off.
And now this is three games to one or two to one.
We was doing it's two to one.
Yeah.
So they're going to they're going to win.

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They're going to take the next two games.
This is going to be it.
They're going to be pissed and they're going to be like, fuck you guys.
We should have we should be three and oh, we should be going to be wrapping this up
tonight.
Yeah, now we're mad.
And that'd be that I do think it may be it might be telling if they blow them out like
6 1 7 7 2 something like that.
Stomp them out and then that's going to just crush the will of the Guardians.

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And then it's over.
I will say, man, I'd like seven.
That'd be cool.
I will say that the name the Guardians, especially what they're about in relation to the city
of Cleveland.
Yeah, the gargoyles, they're not gargoyles, but the things that are at the top of the
towers of their their their tallest buildings.
I'm like, that's kind of cool.

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I've grown to like it.
I still miss Chief Wahoo on the fucking hat, but this was like a worthy fucking second
place or follow up to Chief Wahoo.
But I definitely do miss Chief Wahoo.
There is two other topics.
One is just going to be brushed over real quickly.
Actually know this is this might turn into a full thing.

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One the playoffs for Nipon professional baseball are going on right now.
So we have the Softbank Hawks facing off against the.
Oh, shit.
I think it's the Hokkaido Nipon hand fighters in the climax series.
So it's like the NLCS for the Pacific League and then the central.

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I don't know who's in the central, but I was telling you that I had no idea like how their
playoff format worked.
And I thought this shit was really cool.
So there's only two leagues.
There's only two leagues in Nipon professional baseball, right?
So the top three seeds go and the two lowest seeds play each other.

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And when they go into what is equivalent to the ALCS or the NLCS for us, the top seed
has a one game advantage over the whoever their opponent is.
I thought that was really cool because it I think it eliminates the chance of an underdog

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potentially winning.
And it makes it makes the regular season meaningful.
And it for me, when it comes to Major League Baseball and having wild cards, man, how many
fucking times have we seen the last 10 years where the hottest team in the playoffs is

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some fucking 84 and 74 team, whatever their record is, it was like barely above 500 baseball
team that just goes on a run.
They ultimately win.
And it didn't even matter that the top seeded team got the top seed, got the buy or anything
like that.
And they ended up losing the series and the wild card team ends up winning the fucking

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ends up winning the world series.
This to me, I think should be implemented in Major League Baseball where the top seed
ends up getting a one game advantage and you end up playing a six game series and the underdog
has to make up that difference to ultimately win.
That shit's kind of cool because then it even proves that the underdog team really earned

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their fucking due in beating the top seed.
So what do you got to say about that?
Yeah, no, I agree with that.
I think that is pretty fucking cool.
But I do think that it more often than not, I mean, like right now, the higher seeded
team, I mean, both of those teams are the higher seeded teams in the end in each league

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or whatever.
And I mean, they shut out the fucking the three and three and oh, or whatever against
the fucking two or four or whatever the one the one series is over.
But it's yeah, it's it.
It's it's it's that one zero deficit is almost fucking insurmountable.
It seems like.
Yeah, sure.
I think it's cool to see the teams like that's your home field advantage, basically, as you

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get the one game already off the gate.
But it is kind of cool to take both teams and say, all right, we're starting at nothing.
We're starting at scratch.
Both of you guys have the same level of opportunity to potentially do something and potentially
win.
You get these wild card teams that come in and upset people.
And I don't think you would get that as often if you had a one advantage to the team that

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had the higher seed or whatever or what have you.
Yeah.
But I mean, it is a cool concept.
I think it works for them.
I don't know if it could be applied and work as well for the MLB.
I think it would fucking just basically all the teams that are the better teams, they're
just going to end up winning at the gate.
I mean, sure.
Anything crazy could happen.

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But if you're one of those wild card teams and you get that first game upset and you
go up one zip, man, you're in business now, man.
You're cooking because even if you drop the next game, you're one, one.
Fuck, you win the next game, you're up two, one.
You could still maintain that lead.
Whereas if you have to overcome a one, nothing deficit from the gate, that's already fucking,

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it's proving bad, I guess.
Yeah.
So it is a cool concept.
Like I said, I think it works for them.
I don't know if it works in the MLB.
Cool concept nonetheless, though.
Maybe there's other sports we could apply that to here.
Maybe that would make soccer more interesting.
I don't know.
Yeah, maybe.
But all right.
Last thing.

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What's that?
Yeah.
What do you got?
So there is information that there is another two way player in high school that is potentially
going to be drafted as the number one pick for Nippon professional baseball.
And this guy is under the tutelage of the same person, the same manager that developed

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Shohei Otani to the two way player that he is within Major League Baseball currently.
The baseball player's name is Ray, Rayo Shibata, going to be the number one draft pick in Nippon
professional baseball, a two way player.
Do you believe that this is going to be a, is this a flash point for baseball that we

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will have more two way players, not just here, not just in Japan, but in the U.S. that we
will see more of that?
Or is it just a wrinkle in time that this, you know, a small speck of dust in the ongoing
continuum of baseball that this will just be for a decade or so, or maybe even 15 years,

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that a two way player is going to be a thing?
I think we're going to see the shit change a little bit.
I still don't know if that's good yet, but what's going to end up happening is generally
when you get to college, that's when if you're a pitcher, you're told to pick a lane.

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You either need to learn how to play a position.
If you can hit better, then you can pitch.
You're going to become a position, you're going to become an outfielder.
You're going to become some kind of a positional player, right?
Generally hitting is valued at a higher rate than pitching in most terms.
I think that's an accurate assessment because I do think the art of hitting is much more

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difficult than the art of pitching.
I think that that skill required to hit the baseball and do it consistently is much more
difficult than just throwing.
So that's why I think if you can hit, it doesn't matter if you're good defensively or not.
That's what they have outfield positions for.
Most people can catch a fucking fly ball, right?

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If you can't hit or you can play fucking first base generally, you can develop that skill.
But if you can hit, they will find a place for you.
That was one of the things when I played, that's why I focused so much on becoming a
better hitter because it almost didn't matter what I did defensively.
Because again, if I can just put up the likelihood, there's nine assholes out on the field, right?

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Or eight assholes that the ball could technically be hit to.
The likelihood of it getting hit to you is one in eight, right?
But the likelihood of you're going to get three or four at bats a game, that's high.
You're going to get those at bats.
So even if some guy sucks ass defensively, it almost doesn't matter if he can hit.
So that's why I focused on hitting as the primary function because every team I ever

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played on, the reason I was even drafted or picked to be on teams was because I could
hit.
So even though I played on a bunch of teams where the coach's kid was a catcher or whatever,
I always started.
Never at catcher because you're never going to beat out the coach's kid, right?
But because I could hit, they found a place for me.

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And that was when I learned how to play third base, basically.
And so I think that going into college, if you're a pitcher, that's when you get told,
all right, you got to pick one or the other.
You can either pitch if you're better at hitting.
And most people choose that based on what they think is going to be more likely that
they will get drafted into professional baseball.
That's where they make that choice.

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Okay, do I have a higher likelihood of getting drafted as a pitcher or do I have a higher
likelihood of getting drafted because of my hitting ability and now I need to learn how
to play a position, right?
So that's where the divergence happens.
Now that you've got Shohei being essentially at the face of fucking baseball right now
and proving that there's money in being a two way player, I think you're going to see

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a departure from people starting to choose and you're going to get more people in college.
Again, Japan has been ahead of the curve because Japan obviously fostered this.
They said, oh, you know what?
Why not?
This guy can hit and he can pitch.
Let's let him do both and see what happens, right?
Now you're getting another guy that's going to be this two way player.

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Right now, high school, if you're a pitcher, you're also hitting.
So now they're going to no longer, I think when you get to college, we're going to start
seeing guys that can hit.
They're going to kind of be like, okay, let's let this go.
Let's let this guy cook.
Let's let him still pitch and hit.

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You're not going to get that with every player, right?
Because hitting is harder, but you're going to start seeing, I think in the next five
years, maybe 10.
Perhaps when you start seeing the shifts slowly happen, we're going to see a lot more pitchers
that can hit because in college, they're not going to delete their hitting ability anymore.
They're not going to say, okay, you're no longer focusing on batting practice.

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That's what happens.
Once you become a pitcher, you don't fucking do batting practice ever again.
You're never going to fucking hit.
You just fucking, you know, that's what we got a DH for.
So why even practice it?
You're just solely focused on pitching.
That's going to fucking disappear.
Not disappear, but it's going to be put to the back burner.
And then in the MLB, we're going to start seeing a lot more teams that have these huge

(33:05):
depths of fucking roster for their, for in terms of like pitching because your bullpens
are going to get a lot bigger because what you're going to do is you're going to have
guys again because hitting is valued.
So if you've got guys that can consistently hit, then cool.
You can rotate those dudes around.
It's in terms of your DH position and hell, there's nothing that says you can't play multiple

(33:26):
positions.
So you're going to get these teams where you've got guys that are like, you know, these pitchers
that can, okay, they can throw if you need them to, but shit, we like the way they can
hit.
So let's throw them at fucking left field.
And then you're going to have like your left fielder coming in to fucking do long relief
or whatever.
And then what you said you hate about like everybody's only pitching like two or three

(33:49):
innings, that's going to get even shorter.
People will be, it will likely, in my opinion, when we get to that point and maybe it's going
to be 10 or maybe 15 years, baseball will change to the point where now you're going
to be having one guy throw to a batter and then he's going to be removed.
And then you're going to have some dude throw to another batter and then removed.
And then maybe you'll let a guy finish out the inning and then maybe you'll have a guy
do one, maybe two innings at the most.

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Your guys who are your core pitching staff, they're going to get one to two innings a
game.
And then after that, you're going to be having so many guys that can kind of that are trained
to pitch because there's going to be this influx of these guys.
And then you're going to have that kind of situation happen, I think.
I mean, it's already kind of happens like Dodgers are probably one of the most forefront
people that do.

(34:32):
Oh yeah.
Well, I mean, I think every team does it, but probably more so the Dodgers where, I
mean, just in the playoffs alone, if they don't want their starter to go another round
against the top of their order, fuck it.
We'll pour or pull them out.
We'll put in another relief.
They haven't seen left-handed pitching.
Let's go ahead and put it in this guy based on the numbers that we have.

(34:59):
And shit, I mean, I don't remember exactly if next year they're going to be implementing
a rule, which kind of curbs your point about starters, but I think maybe next year they're
having starters go five deep, regardless of how shitty or well they-
What's the rule that they're going to possibly implement?

(35:20):
That was it.
The starter has to pitch five innings?
There's no way that's going to fucking fly.
There's no way the owners are going to let that happen.
I don't remember.
Yeah, so if that ends up happening, well, fuck, at least it'll-
Because that's bad for everybody, in my opinion.
Why do you say that?
Because then if you've got guys that are in your- because right now, most starting rotations
are not built to have guys go five fucking innings.
They're pulling them after three, maybe even four at the most.
So I don't know.
I think that'll be bad.
I don't know if that'll be- I literally don't know if that'll be bad.
I think that's the thing.
I think that's the thing.
I think that's the thing.
I think that's the thing.
I think that's the thing.
I think that's the thing.
I think that's the thing.

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I think that's the thing.

(36:24):
I think that's the thing.
Listen, I'm just saying I think these guys are pussies now
I don't think these fuckers are gonna be able to put up with that dude. The only person I've seen could like it's it's

(36:45):
maybe I haven't watched enough baseball on other teams or
enough baseball on other teams, but Paul skeens the guy the
Yeah, who probably is gonna end up being the rookie of the year
For the Pittsburgh Pirates
Dude, that's the only guy that was actively watching that went dude. He went even go fucking deep like yeah

(37:07):
Cuz you that's how well he fucking pitch. Yeah, and I'm like shit man. We're the fuck is where where is everybody?
That's going six plus innings. That's a starting pitcher
Especially in the playoffs man, like it's such a rarity to see guys go
Five six innings well a lot of I think has to do with the pitch counts a lot of them are not allowed to go more

(37:28):
Than 65 maybe 75 pitches and then that's when they fucking pull them out
nobody's doing 90 or 100 plus pitches really anymore and
In this format where they're not really letting guys go over 75 pitches. Let's just say
Let's if you look at a six inning run, okay
That's basically what 12 fucking pitches an inning so you're throwing

(37:50):
To three batters and any if you and then you got to be good though
That's the thing you got it you got to throw only three pitches to a guy or three to three to four pitches to a dude
To get to that point so you know if you're looking at that from that aspect of pitch count
That's why these dudes are getting in trouble, and they're fucking aw shit
Well, it's been three innings, and you've thrown 75 pitches already. Oh, let's fucking get them out of there

(38:11):
So guys aren't doing that anymore where they're throwing they're going three and out or whatever or they're throwing you know six pitches an inning
Because they're getting a dude to bite and fucking ground out or some shit one to two pitches into the at bat
I think part of it is that
Players or pitchers are over exerting themselves trying to be one of those guys
There's they're throwing over a hundred because that's just kind of the thing now that everybody I'm throwing gas your Greg Maddox's don't exist

(38:38):
Really anymore. Yeah, the crafty the crafty motherfuckers you you have a
Strategic way in which you throw and you have an overwhelming command of what the ball does
That's not that's not really prevalent anymore in baseball
Everybody's just trying to throw like you said everybody's trying to throw 101 102 and just throw heat
And yeah, that'll be good for a minute

(38:59):
But man you can always turn up the dial on the pitching machine
And if you take enough reps eventually it doesn't mean anything
Anymore if you take enough reps on the pitching machine at a hundred fucking miles an hour or shit
You just start having guys turn up to 105
I don't know what the max is on pitching machines
But like I'm gonna start making pitching machines that can throw 110. Yeah, and then you got dudes that can hit 110 120
Your gas ain't gonna matter anymore. Yeah, cuz you do it enough times and you just get used to it

(39:23):
You know I'm saying I also think it's like the health of the players
that
for the slightest thing
the slice thing whether I mean whether they're it's actual damage to their arm or
If it's their legs or whatever that might be
If they get hit in the leg by a ball, let's go
MRI or whatever we got to do an MRI. I don't know. He's just he's got severe bruising on his fucking leg

(39:49):
He'll be out for
Business weeks. Yeah to two weeks. It's like fuck man
Motherfuckers would be pitching like on three or four days rest back in the day
Dude going deep Wade Boggs would drink a fucking goddamn
Like two fucking 36 cases of beer on the flight to the fucking game and then he'd go play the game

(40:11):
all right, like
Daryl strawberry would fuck hookers and do
Literally play the game like they don't build dudes like that anymore man
This is why we need to legalize drugs and fucking baseball like that's that's what it needs, man
You need legalized steroids and you need to legalize fucking hard drugs hard drugs
Yeah, and then you got some dude who's messed out on a benders pitching that you can throw nine fucking innings

(40:35):
It was ironic about you talking about fucking guys that are just gonna end up playing like every goddamn position and pitching. Yeah
He's like
Man, they might as well just implement fucking bringing back
The National League rules. Yeah, where everybody hits that's what I know happening
But they but see then that's thing is they want to double dip
They want to have the guy be pitcher and then they want to have another one of the pitchers be the fucking DH

(40:59):
That's what's gonna happen. Yeah, that's what'll happen. So you're not gonna have like your Albert Pujols is again
Look at what happened Pujols is sucks dicks defensively
But he he was a star and played everywhere because the motherfucker could hit right
They'll find a place for you if you can hit and hell if you can also pitch at the same time
Well, hell you got fucking double your double fucking valuable to them

(41:21):
Yeah, and that's what people are gonna that's what the dads all those Instagram dads that their kids have
Yeah
Every single right now has now pivoted and they're now like son
If they weren't a pitcher you need to learn you're gonna learn how to pitch now
And if they if they were a pitcher son
We're gonna focus on your hitting to and get that going because now everybody wants to be the next fucking show
Hey, that's gonna be their ticket to get in

(41:44):
So that's that's what's happening right now. Yeah. All right, cool. Good episode man. I was a long one. Anyways necessary though
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In the in the coming months now that baseball season or the winter ball season is gonna be ending
Probably at like the beginning of December. We're gonna go to the park. I am going to buy a wood bat to wood bats

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I'm gonna buy the same exact wood bat twice. I'm gonna have one that's uncorked and we're gonna homemade cork a bat
And I just I I've never fucking used a cork bat in like an experiment like this
I have used one one time, but I don't know. I don't know so long ago
I don't remember what that I don't really remember about it. So I just want to see what the actual fucking difference is

(42:30):
By using a cork bat and see if we get any fucking difference in fucking power or whatever. So
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