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March 3, 2025 20 mins

Adam and Josh discuss the new Automated Balls and Strikes System Presented by T-Mobile.

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(00:00):
Chirping from the pine.

(00:09):
It's time to rage.
Music.
Alright, welcome back everybody to a brand new episode of Chirping from the Pine. My name is Josh. I'm here today with a good buddy, Adam.

(00:34):
Yes, hello. Welcome to the podcast.
And not to give anything away, but today we're going to talk about what I believe is the most detrimental thing to fucking baseball ever happened is this automatic baseballs and strikes. Balls and strikes presented by T-Mobile Machine.
It's the, it's the, it's one of the greatest improvements to baseball itself, dude. Like baseball is finally fucking catching up to other sports. God damn it.

(00:56):
No, it's not. They're taking it way too far.
They're taking it way too far?
They're taking it way too far. Okay. What is the fucking point of having an umpire? If you're just going to have the AI fucking nonsense, make the call anyway, or have it available.
Because it's not for every fucking pitch.
Yes, this is step one. The umpires, I'm telling you, in the next three to five business years, the umpires will be phased out. They will no longer be in existence.

(01:23):
I don't think that's the case.
Nope, I guarantee it.
Baseball needs to have umpire. It needs the human element.
No, they don't. Once MLB says, oh fuck, this system presented by T-Mobile is way fucking cheaper than paying umpires.
Well, we're going to have the next three, four years. Oh, it's just a backup if you want to challenge it or whatever.

(01:46):
Okay, cool. But then once they figure out, oh shit, this thing works now. Oh, we don't need umpires anymore.
So we can actually have this AI also call out and say fair and foul within a millimeter of half a millimeter of precision of error.
Oh, done. Umpires are done.
Brought to you by T-Mobile?

(02:07):
Yep, it'll all be brought to you by T-Mobile and or fucking Amazon or UPS or some sort of horse shit.
The reason why I think this is ridiculous is because the strike zone used to be, it was 24 and some change inches across, okay, which was just outside.
So you could leave the ball, the outside corner, the edge of the ball could touch the outside corner of the plate and you'd still be a strike, right?

(02:36):
So because the plate's about 18 inches wide, so you got a few, you got a ball width of inches on each side that you can just touch it with and you're good, right?
And then it would extend from the bottom of your armpits to just below your knees.
Okay, that's how it was. And because everyone is of a different size, the strike zone is different on everyone, right?
You can't, it's not the same for everyone because not everyone's built the same as it should be.

(03:00):
A guy who's fucking 5'3 should not have the same strike zone as a dude who's now 6'2", okay?
Which now in this instance, that is now the case. The strike zone has changed.
The strike zone is now, according to the MLB website, the strike zone is now 17 inches across exactly, which is the exact width of the plate.

(03:22):
It is from 53.5 and 53.5% of height to down to the 27. It's like, it's now, it's like a measurement.
And then also there's a depth to the strike zone now where it's 8.5 inches deep, which used to be the whole plate, but now it's smaller.

(03:43):
So again, the human is not, that's why you use the plate as the reference.
Now you've shortened the strike zone and this is what I'm saying. They're setting up umpires to be eliminated
because now you've made it so specific of what the strike zone is, now it's going to be extremely difficult for the umpire to make sure he hits this exact fucking,

(04:05):
that's why there was this little bit of extra, all right? And it was different on everybody. You can eyeball it.
I can no longer use your armpits as the fucking, as the mechanism or the area or the bottom of your knees, right?
I can no longer use that. I have to use a fucking exact measurement system. The plate, same thing.
It's the exact width of the plate. So the whole ball has to be inside that hole with the plate for it to count as a strike now, which that's fucking dumb.

(04:32):
I don't hate it. I enjoy it because of the fact that the game can still be called as it would be by the umpire,
with the exception that for when it counts, for the number of challenges that you would get from the ABS system, right?
That it doesn't take anything away from the umpire. Like yeah, maybe in the future it'll end up being just an automated strike zone to the point that it can measure it in millimeters of how far off the plate it was, a pitch is off.

(05:06):
Yeah, that's what it's doing right now.
But in the meantime, what it is, is the umpire still gets to call the game or the strike zone.
But every once in a while for if it's three, if each team gets three challenges a piece, they have to pick their spots of where they think this, this challenge is critical for the game.

(05:29):
And it also kind of keeps the umpire in check as opposed to like the way it is now where, you know, if you had a fucking Angel Hernandez calling the strike zone as liberal as he, he wished it to be, like now Vegas, it like can't fucking, there's no cheating.
There's no way to cheat around the strike zone.
That was also part of the game. That was part of the game was you, every umpire had a slightly different strike zone.

(05:54):
And there was certain shit that you can get away with with one and certain shit you can't get away with.
It's going to go away though.
It is going to go away because it's going to be slowly phased out.
What I'm saying is this is, this is phase one of the phase out.
Yeah.
All right. This is the opening salvo of we're going to get rid of fucking umpires.
There will only be an umpire needed to control not even the flow of the game anymore because you've got the automated pitch count or the pitch count.

(06:19):
And if AI will say, oh, he didn't start his motion by the thing, the thing, a light will come on, stop the game. There'll be a guy in a booth. That'll be the umpire.
And he'll only be there essentially to call rule violations and to interpret rule violations until they get an AI that the managers will go to and they'll type in the question of whether this thing and the AI will spit it out and go like, oh no, this is a thing.

(06:41):
And the AI will rule what the, what the rule is.
If we ever cross that line, I think, I think if, if it does come to that point, if baseball is automated to that point, it's going to take all the fun out of it.
I don't think this takes the fun out of it. I think it adds a little bit more to the game.
And this is like an evolution that baseball needed because yeah, dude, when it comes to the critical games, especially when the, when it comes to the playoffs and it's left to the detriment of the fucking umpire strike zone.

(07:11):
And he's calling the strike zone real fucking liberal that like the pitches, you can see it off the television that it's literally off the plate that at least you have a solution in creating the ABS system to at least flag for this pitch and say, Hey, I don't know if.
Um, you know, you've been calling a real weird game. I don't know about this one. Like I got to challenge it. And if it allows the pitcher to have one more strike to change the outcome of the game where there potentially could have been an injustice done to a team because of how weird the umpire is calling the strike zone.

(07:52):
I'm for it, man. I'm for this shit because it doesn't in my, it just adds the game to me, to me. And you say this will eliminate cheating. No, I say this is a prime breeding ground for cheating because now the guy running the fucking board and interpreting the results of the machine.
He can fucking alter the game if he wishes to.

(08:17):
That's how the MLB controls the narrative, letting the Dodgers win the next six world series that they need in order to make all the money they've spent back. So that's how you control the narrative is take you out of the hands of the umpires.
Let there be no ifs, ands or buts about it. And now they can say, Oh yes, no, the Dodgers got this one. They're good. That is out. That's what's being done. That's why you're so in favor of it.

(08:40):
This is just going to secure the next 10 Dodger World Series. Right. So I guess we can kind of go over what they're doing for how it's going to work. So let's see. So who can issue a challenge? The batter.
Who can issue a challenge as far as the ABA system goes? The batter, the pitcher or the catcher can challenge an umpire's call. No one else, not even the manager can do so, which is pretty interesting.

(09:10):
Challenges must be made immediately after the umpire's call without assistance from the dugout or the players. I didn't even know that. It doesn't say how many challenges they get. Did you find that?
It says a challenge added 17 seconds of game time in minor league experimentation. Successful. A team only loses this challenge if the umpire's call is confirmed.

(09:34):
Oh, it says two. It's a complete. Oh, so they're leaving it up to the player. Yeah. See, this is where it's going to get fucky. So you get two challenges. Extra challenge and extra innings. No. You get two challenges. You get two challenges a piece.
For each team. Yeah, for each team.
How a challenge is issued. The player taps his cap or helmet to alert the umpire to desire. His desire to challenge the call.

(10:01):
So that's how you would signify to the umpire that you would want the challenge to be made. Yeah. How was the call reviewed? The Hawkeye view. So this is the software or whatever system.
The Hawkeye view is shown to those in attendance via the video board and to home viewers via the broadcast, which I think is pretty sweet because it's kind of like tennis where if you know if a ball lands near the back end of the court.

(10:28):
Near the service line and you can't tell like if you make a challenge, you get to see if it's within millimeters inside the court or just outside the service line. It's very much like the same thing with like the strike zone. You could see you make the challenge.
They show the diagram or the video and it's the whole thing takes like it as you were saying like 17. It doesn't really add that much the game as far as the the total game time. It's really it's relatively quick. I like it.

(11:01):
They were saying that they tested this in minor league baseball for the last few years and they said that games that were they used full ABS batters drew a shit ton more locks and they said it basically slowed the game to where it negated any benefits of putting in the pitch clock to increase the game.
Yeah. I mean if you're going to have unlimited challenges, of course it's going to go. This is where they just did full ABS like it was there was no umpire calling it. They like piloted it.

(11:26):
Oh, that's why they said that there's not they're not going to full ABS in right now is because they it was a it was a lot more walks when they had just full ABS when there was no umpire calling balls and strikes. It was just the ABS doing it.
Okay. Well, there's your reason for why they still have umpires in the game for now until they figure out how to how to because they're because again, this is going to be them getting the data to like craft it to like make it work within the game that they want.

(11:52):
And therefore the rules are not going to be the same shit's going to be changing and the umpires are going to eventually be gone.
There's going to be one too many because they're waiting what they're waiting for is a World Series linchpin moment where it comes down to a last strikeout.
It's tied or something or they're up by down by one bases are loaded and the batter is not going to swing and it's going to come to a fucking umpire decision where it was close.

(12:17):
And then they're going to be like, oh yeah, it's kind of some challenge or something and then that's going to change the course of history because then everyone's going to be like, oh this fuck the umpires bond and next season.
They're going to be like we're doing well with umpires calling balls and strikes and they're only going to be calling out and safe and then there's going to be a three or four years after that.
There's going to be a World Series linchpin moment or playoff lich lich pin moment where oh it's going to be like an outer safe call and then they're going to go. That's it. We're going to full fucking AI Austin strike.

(12:47):
Why was the first thing? Why is it the first thing you do to go in like alarmist mode where you immediately go to the worst case scenario?
You're like, oh my God, they're going to eliminate umpires. It's going to ruin baseball. I'm telling you right now.
I've listened also the ice walls real and fucking you really need to fucking be careful out there.
All right. Listen, I this is how I am. Okay. I just this is where I go. Someone has to do it.

(13:12):
Okay. Someone has to fucking have someone needs to be the canary in the coal mine.
All right. When the gas is starting to flow and you can't smell it and you're about to die.
That's what I'm here for to be like, hey, this is bad. We should we should turn away from this or when the water spills from the edge of the earth.
Yes. Over into the tears of the planet. Like, yes, you should fucking. Yeah, it's me.

(13:33):
It's me here to tell you what's going on. If you want to know what the reference is, go ahead and listen to the album review of luminescent creatures from Ichiko Aoba on all gas.
Yeah. On all gas. No trash. Say the name of the show. Yeah.
Anyways, I think this is gonna be horrible for baseball. I think this is terrible. I think AI in sports is whack.
I think it's dope. I think it should be illegal. I think that like having AI do shit for your team.

(13:59):
That's that's it. It should be fucking illegal. All right.
We need to go back to baseball and then the 18th. Yes. The late 19th.
We need to wear those shorts with the really good knickers with those stirrup socks.
Because you were white socks and then the color the team colored stirrup on the bottom.
And I was the stupidest fucking thing I've ever seen. And I want to I want my pictures to have twirly mustaches.

(14:25):
I want them to be called hurlers and not pitchers. And I also I also think that we should bring back beer and hot dogs and hookers in the dugout because that's what made baseball great back then.
OK, dude, babe Ruth did hit all those home runs without having a cigar and a hot dog in hand. Yeah.
Yeah. And a healthy fucking dose of alcohol prior to the game.
OK, those were his performance enhancers. Yeah, dude. And then for Darrell Strawberry was fucking cocaine and yeah.

(14:51):
Yeah. And I think we also need to go back to pinstriping on everybody's uniforms.
And I think we need to have old timey radio voices do the announcing and now batting we have fucking Aaron Judge.
I don't I don't need to turn this into a total tangent, but I've kind of gotten into this that report of the week guy.

(15:14):
I've got to get to him a little bit, right? OK. I love that this motherfucker is like a dapper dude dressed up like talking about junk food essentially.
But he can't do the transatlantic voice, do you? Yeah, I can't.
I'm like, you do it way better than he does. I was it was having you for a fucking do.
I mean, I probably will. I'm probably I'm probably just as ugly as that guy is.

(15:35):
So I got to do a suit on. I mean, he looks like he looks like a strawberry blonde ginger guy.
Yeah. So maybe I should hit him up and be like, hey, man, let me do voiceovers of the let me do the fucking transatlantic voice over your things.
You just you just say the word he just doesn't have it, dude.
Yeah. And he's trying to sell himself as like this dude from the 1930s in modern times. Right.
But he just doesn't have it. And now that we're talking about baseball back in the day, you know what?

(15:59):
That's actually not a bad idea. Maybe I should do we should do a sports like a 1920s version of modern sports show.
Well, yes. Yeah. Yeah. But like we'll do we'll do actual highlights of what's going on now.
Do you like I'm in the 1920s? Man, that's going to be really hard because I really don't know.
Because talking in that like that accent, that's going to take some practice to know where to put inflections.

(16:25):
Yeah, I don't know, do you? That's hard. Well, I wish those Dodgers just get back in their jellies and go back to Chinatown because they are really pissing me off.
That Darrell Strawberry is a real hot chat. I play it. It's a real firecracker in the neck out there, buddy.
And it just it basically be just like Philip and Terrence. Yeah. The fucking sports talking about sports.
Yeah. Talking about baseball wearing like 1920s era suits and then those fucking hats. Yeah.

(16:50):
Blinders hats. Yeah. Oh, man. Do that be a good idea. I mean, I'd be down.
I always wanted to get one of those 1920s kind of suits with the fucking vest and everything. Yeah.
And a wool fucking a dude that we sit here sweating our dick off because like a thousand degrees.
Knowing that it's springs right around the corner. It's basically the start of summer. Yeah.
It's basically summer is now here. It's going to turn into a fucking inferno in the garage. Oh, yeah, man.

(17:13):
Especially with the wool, dude. Oh, we're going to die from heatstroke, dude.
We're going to be wet and out of breath. Hey, man, buddy. Oh, God, it's so hot.
It's hotter than the devil's child. It's hot like the dickens.
All right. All right. You have anything else?
Yeah, I don't think I have anything else. Fuck it. Anyways, ABS system brought to you by T-Mobile.

(17:36):
Yeah. Fucking whack. The fucking MLB kill yourself.
I can't wait to see how this shit actually plays out in the playoffs.
Like, I wonder if people are going to be so fucking pissed off. Yeah.
Well, I don't know how it's going to turn out. I just can't wait for the season.
I just hope that it screws the Dodgers somehow and then you can eat your fucking words and be you're going to be here
in seven months going, this is the stupidest fucking thing.
And I'll be like, oh, that was right. You'd be like, shut up, Josh. You never said this.

(17:59):
You know what the best part is after the 2025 season going on strike or what the lockout,
there's going to be a lockout in twenty twenty six because apparently the Dodgers have created
created quite a catastrophe for baseball with the number of players they've acquired and all this bullshit.
So yeah. Yeah. So now the baseball is going to be locked out in twenty twenty six.
So they're going to go on strike. Yeah, they're going to go on strike. I think it's also the end of the CB, the collective.

(18:25):
Oh, the bargaining agreement. Yeah. So what are they going to go on strike for?
Because they want to get paid more money. I don't know if they want to get paid more money
or they want to create rules for like a salary cap or a salary floor so they can force owners to pay.
Yeah. Spend more money. Yeah.
Because there's a lot of cheap bastard teams like the Oakland, old Sacramento Athletics now,

(18:46):
Tampa Bay Rays, a lot of fucking feeder teams that just end up signing players for like pennies on the dollar.
And then they just end up on other teams. And I don't know.
I think I don't know what's going to happen, but twenty twenty six looks like there's going to be a lockout.
So yeah, cool. That'll be fun. Yeah, I'm sure we talk about it and make fun.
I might have to start watching like we have to watch fucking ESPN, the Ocho for some weird ass.

(19:12):
Start watching cricket. That's the next closest thing to silat. Silat battles like dudes hitting each other with sticks.
Or the guys that they climb with the chainsaws and they fucking like chop the tree at the top.
They climb down lumberjacking. Fucking chariot racing.
No, cherry picker racing. Have you seen that? No. Oh, man. Those are funny.
Anyways. All right. That'll be the end of it. I see you guys on the next one. Peace out.

(19:49):
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