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Hello, and welcome back to
City Lifestyle with Angie Burns.
I am here now with Dr.
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Rogers of Skin Specialists of Allen and
Addison, who is one of our amazing
partners in the City Lifestyle luxury
publications for both Allen and Plano.
So welcome to the podcast.
Thank you, Angie.
Absolutely, I'm so glad that you're here
today, and that we can talk a little bit
about you and your specialty and your
business, and kind of dispel some of
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those myths that are out there, and when
it comes to skincare and
taking care of your skin.
So I know personally, I have had basal
cell carcinoma three times removed,
because I loved those
tanning beds in my 20s.
And so introduce yourself, and tell us a
little bit about you, and then we're
gonna jump right in.
Sure.
I am a board certified dermatologist.
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I've been practicing now
for, ooh, 20, almost 20 years.
Wow. 17 years.
And have owned Skin Specialists of Allen
and Addison now since 2009.
I'm a mom of two boys, two teenagers.
Oh, that's enough.
Yes.
(Laughs) It's a lot.
I have one tweenager.
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He thinks he's a teenager at the moment,
and he's a hot mess.
But my girls are older, so they got
through the teenage phase.
They survived, so I have hope.
(Both Laugh) They'll get there.
Yeah, he'll get there.
(Laughs) And so that
keeps me really busy.
And generally, we do all parts of
dermatology at Skin Specialists.
So we do general dermatology, we do
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pediatric derm, we do surgical
dermatology and MOS surgery, and we do a
little bit of cosmetics work as well.
Okay, so let's jump in.
I'm gonna actually jump into the
pediatric dermatology.
So what symptoms or signs, or when do you
know that a child needs to go in and see
a dermatologist versus
just their regular PCP?
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So outside of, I'm assuming, rashes and
things like that, that
you're not talking about.
When we talk about kids, we're talking
about moles that are changing quickly.
And really, that's true for
kids and adults, actually.
So it is a, I say mole, a lesion, a skin
lesion of any type that is persistent.
It is changing, it is growing, it is
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starting to itch, it is starting to hurt,
it is starting to bleed.
Growth has changed, so sometimes we may
have a mole that's tiny, tiny, tiny when
it first develops, because obviously it
has to start somewhere.
And then it grows up to its adult size,
maybe over a year or two.
And then all of a
sudden, it'll be stable.
And then all of a sudden, it will start
to lose its stability and start to change
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from the size that it was previously.
So any kind of a rapid
growth, sudden change.
And then for kids, growth
outside of how they are growing.
So we want a child's mole to grow
in proportion with his growth.
And so if the mole is growing faster than
the child is, and that's
always a question mark.
Yeah, that seems like
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it would be troubling.
So do you also deal with things like
warts and skin tags and things like that?
I know that's what I had to go, my
daughter's gonna kill me
for saying this, by the way.
That's what I had to see a
dermatologist for the first time.
I personally had never
gone to a dermatologist.
And then my daughter had warts on her
fingers that she had gotten somewhere, we
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have no idea where, and we
were referred to a dermatologist.
And that was the first time I ever had an
experience with a dermatologist.
And I was like, well, that was a little
too advanced for the PCP,
so we had to go in elsewhere.
And then my second experience was as an
adult when I had skin
cancer spots pop up.
So tell us a little bit about how to
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detect those type of things and should we
be going in and getting, do
you do like a full body scan?
Like how does that work?
How do we find those problem areas?
We do, so generally the American Academy
of Dermatology recommends that we all go
in after the age of 18 to have a full
skin check annually.
So it should kind of be
on our annual checklist.
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We go see our gynecologist obstetrician,
we go see our pediatrician or our
generalist, and then we go and see our
dermatologist as well.
So it should be kind of on
your regular checkup list.
I need to add that to my list.
It is not on my annual list.
(Laughing) Another thing on
the to-do list, don't get it.
And then outside of that, I typically
tell patients, we typically tell patients
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to look at the ABCDEs of melanoma.
So A is asymmetry, B is for borders, C is
for color, D is for
diameter, and E is for evolution.
So if you notice that a mark is
asymmetric, one side doesn't match the
other side in any direction, then that
hits the asymmetry category.
B or borders is if a mole or skin lesion
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has an irregular border.
It's not a perfect or almost perfect
circle or oval, then those
are reasons to have it checked.
If color doesn't match, if you have an
evenness of color or splotches of black
or blue or red within a brown mole, those
are reasons to have it
looked at, or white sometimes.
And then D is for diameter.
So if a growth is larger than a pencil
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eraser, then that's another reason why
you may want to have
it come and looked at.
And then E is for evolution.
So again, that rapid
growth that I mentioned before,
if your mole previously looked kind of
blended in with the background of other
moles that you have on your skin, and
then suddenly this growth starts to look
different than the rest of the growths on
your skin, then those are
reasons to come in and check.
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Thank you so much for clarifying that,
because you never know.
Everybody, you hear all the things, and
then everybody goes to Google, and they
go to the WebMD where everybody's dying.
Yes.
(Both Laughing) And it's like, no, calm down.
It's really not that big of a deal.
We have more fantastic information coming
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(Upbeat Music) So let's talk about some
of that internet myths and the internet
inaccuracies, if you will.
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And everybody sees all these skin care
regiments on TikTok and Instagram, and
they're like, oh, I'm gonna do this and
my skin's gonna be glowing, or this
makeup, or this routine.
And a lot of those can actually be
dangerous, or they're not safe products.
So how do we know how to evaluate some of
the products that are being thrown at us
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through social media?
I know you've probably got a lot to say
on this, so take it away.
How did you guess?
(Laughing) I feel like one of the biggest
myths that I'm seeing right now, that
patients are constantly coming into the
office and sharing with me, is that you
need a 12 step regimen.
No one needs a 12 step regimen.
It's not AA, we're doing 12 steps.
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And I'm seeing that down to my school age
girls, where they're eight and nine, and
trust me, when I was that age, I was into
skin care, I was in the
mirror, making little videos.
Feel like they want 12 steps, they're
like, I wanna do all these things with my
mom's minty face mask, and making
commercials with cream.
So I get the fun of it all, but I don't
want, I hate it when I feel as though
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social media, and then all of the
companies who are marketing behind the
social media influencers, are really just
trying to encourage you to buy their
product, regardless of
whether or not it's necessary.
So in general, a kid needs a cleanser and
a moisturizer, that's
all he or she needs.
An adult needs, especially an adult,
who's probably over the age of 30, and
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maybe looking into anti-aging, and
furthering their skin care routines.
I want my skin to look like yours,
because it's flawless.
If you're just listening to the podcast,
you need to go watch it
on the YouTube, because Dr.
Rogers has impeccable skin, so.
She clearly knows
what she's talking about.
(Laughing) But an adult
generally needs a basic routine too.
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She needs a cleanser, she needs a
moisturizer, she needs a sunscreen, and
then we can start talking about some of
the key tenets of anti-aging.
So that's your hydroxy
acid, usually those are
glycolic acid, salicylic acid, lactic
acid, something that increases
exfoliation of the skin,
which slows down with age.
You wanna have an antioxidant, so
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something like a vitamin C, or a vitamin
E, or a frolleic acid, these are usually
plant-based extracts that help you to
fight DNA damage while it's happening
real time on your face.
And then you finally
need a topical retinoid.
So typically those are
retinol over the counter,
Tretinoin, which you can get with a
prescription, Tizeratine, that you can
also get with a prescription, Adapoline,
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which is available both via prescription
or over the counter.
Those products help to rebuild collagen
while exfoliating gently.
Collagen's like the big word now.
I don't think I heard
collagen before I was 30.
I mean, everybody now is like, oh
collagen this, collagen that, put it in
your water, put it in
this, increase your collagen.
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So is that the main thing that is needed?
That is what's breaking down daily.
So typically after the age of mid-20s to
30 or so and on, we're losing a small
percentage of our collagen every day.
And that's what keeps it firm and tight.
That's what keeps it tight, that's what
keeps it lifted, that's what keeps away
sagging skin and also
fine lines and wrinkles.
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Okay, so that is the
key ingredient, collagen.
So I heard you say a
lot about she, she, she.
So what about men's skincare?
Is it just as important for the men to
come in and see a dermatologist and when
should they come in?
Cause they're not always as concerned
about the fine lines, wrinkles and
sagging as we are, but they still need to
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take care of their skin.
Yes, so their full skin checks are
equally as important, sometimes more so
because they may be more likely to do
yard work and cough and things like that.
And maybe less likely to wear sunscreen
than some of us are as women.
So definitely men should be top of the
list on their skin checks annually.
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And a lot of men are becoming a little
bit more aware as well of the aging
process that happens
after the age of 30 or so.
And so they're also coming into my office
asking what should they be applying?
What products should they be stealing
from their wives at the counter?
Is it okay to share products or are there
specific ones designed for
women and designed for men?
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For the most part, it is
okay to share products.
So I think a lot of, again, some of the
separation that we see in products over
the counter are again, marketing.
I've had patients, male patients, who
don't wanna use a product that's packaged
in a way that looks feminine.
It's pink and flowery, smells like roses.
So if one of the guys in the gym sees it,
then there may be jokes.
But in general, both men and women need
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the same ingredients to help us not lose
that collagen as quickly as we age.
Okay, and so there's more men that need
services, but there are also another man
giving services in your office now.
You have a new doctor that you have
brought on that is expanding what you're
able to offer to the
patients that come in.
So let's talk a little bit more about the
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new doc on the block.
Yes, so Dr.
Atman Shaw, he is a board certified
dermatologist as well.
And also he is a board
certified MOS surgeon.
So he trained in MOS micrographic surgery
and he does a lot of our
bigger skin cancer surgeries.
So I do some skin cancer surgeries.
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He does them in places that are a little
bit harder to treat like on the face or
on the scalp or the hands
and feet or on the genitals.
Or he does some of the larger
ones that I don't typically do.
Dr.
Shaw also brings that cosmetic energy to
skin specialists that
we didn't have before.
And so he is doing lower facelifts at our
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office now, which I
think he can get rid of some.
He can get rid of my triple chins.
I mean his results are amazing.
He also does upper and lower eyelifts.
So upper and lower blepharoplasty.
And he does a little bit
of hair transplantation.
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So that's a big thing now.
A lot of, I know whenever we were
younger, everybody was like Rogaine, and
it was like this big running joke of the
implants and hair trends.
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But now I see a lot of men that are
actually looking into it.
I have a close friend of mine who just
had the whole surgery,
and he looks amazing.
And I went to my husband who shaves his
head because he was
going bald at this point.
And I'm like, we need to look into this.
I was like, he looks great.
So it's actually something that has less
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of a stigma to it now, I believe.
And more men are saying, hey, there's an
option out there for me.
How does that work?
So it is both men and women.
So I see a lot of female patients as well.
Oh, women can do it as well, okay.
So for people who are experiencing, less
postpartum, because that
hair loss typically recovers.
That's self-limited and
will recover over time.
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But for people who are experiencing
pattern balding, which happens both in
men and women, and can be inherited from
either side of the family.
So you can inherit that gene from your
dad's side or your
mom's side of the family.
It is a growing concern for both men and
women who notice that they are thinning
at the crown or starting
to recede at the hairline.
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And so, you know, at our office, we will
typically start with, you know, less
invasive options like topical Rogaine, or
I'll write you a prescription for one
that's much more stronger than when you
can get over the
counter, it's compounded.
And then we'll escalate to maybe
recommending that a patient purchase a
hair laser that they can use at home,
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it's a gentle laser.
Sometimes I'll prescribe medication.
So there are oral medications that you
can take to slow down that
process, that rate of loss.
And then when all else has failed, you
might consider procedures that are a
little bit more invasive.
So platelet-rich plasma is something that
we do at our office.
It's also called PRP.
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It's that subset of regenerative medicine
that we're starting to see being utilized
more in orthopedic surgery and
ophthalmology and dentistry and in other
specialties, including dermatology.
And so we will draw
blood from the patient.
So it's all natural, it's your own blood.
We spin that blood down in a centrifuge
so that we're separating the red cell
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portion of the blood and the clear plasma
portion of the blood.
And that plasma portion is liquid gold,
like literally it is golden in
color when we separate it out.
And then it contains growth factors that
help you to stimulate those follicles to
start beefing up and getting stronger
instead of withering away as they age.
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And we inject that back into your scalp.
And then when that doesn't work for a
patient or when their condition kind of
outpaces what we're able to do with that,
that's when you go and see Dr.
Shaw.
And that's the big guns come out.
Yes.
And he will harvest typically via
individual follicles from the
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posterior part of the scalp.
And he takes them so far apart from each
other that you never
know that they're missing.
And then he transplants them individually
to the crown or to the
hairline where you need it.
Or he will sometimes use the strip
method, which is when he will remove a
small strip of skin from the back of the
scalp, closes it back up, stitches it
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back together, it's a
very minor procedure.
And then he and his techs, his
technicians will separate every
individual follicle and plant each
individual follicle back into the places
where you need them on your scalp.
That is so fabulous.
What science can do
nowadays is incredible.
Have you always been a
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science, kind of nerd?
Have you nerded out on
science and things all your life?
Is that how you got into this?
Yes.
Did you know you wanted to go into
dermatology when you
started your medical journey?
I didn't.
So as a three year old I hear, I was
walking around saying that I was going to
grow up and become a doctor.
Wow, my son wanted to be an astronaut or
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he was very fascinated
about working at McDonald's.
(Laughing) My daughter was like, I'm just
going to be a ballerina.
And now he's 11, he just thinks he's
going to be a YouTube celebrity.
I call it 11 year olds dude.
So you knew from three apparently.
I did.
And then, you know, I think like most
children do, the doctor that
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you know is your pediatrician.
So I wanted to be a pediatrician upon
entry into med school.
And then my interest kind of changed a
little bit by the time I finished the
first two years of course work and became
interested in dermatology.
Wow, and you've been doing
it for two decades now almost.
Almost two decades.
Yeah, we're getting up there.
Well congratulations.
I mean that's fantastic.
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Your career's about able to drink.
So it's almost legal.
That's amazing.
Tell us a little bit more about your
actual locations and the
culture at Skin Specialists.
Because I know one thing whenever I've
been in there, everybody is so warm and
inviting and welcoming.
And it's just, it doesn't feel like
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you're walking into a sterile like
doctor's office where a lot of people
have anxiety about going to the doctor,
especially a specialist that
they've had to be referred to.
So tell us a little bit about the culture
of your practice and
where we can find you.
Sure, so I think that we at Skin
Specialists, we really want people to
feel comfortable and at ease.
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You know, sometimes you will see people
literally at the front desk or waiting in
the waiting room and you can tell that
they're anxious because they have been
referred over because
there is a potential problem.
And so, you know, coming in, we try to
keep it light, try to keep it funny.
There's a lot of laughter in your office.
We laugh a lot, joke a
lot, try to keep it light.
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I like to do a lot of
education and a lot of explaining.
I feel that people do best with their
healthcare regimen and their healthcare
prescriptions and routine if they
understand why they're doing it.
And so I try to do a lot of teaching, a
lot of education on what is the condition
that we are treating and what does each
treatment that I'm recommending for you,
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how does that work and how does it work
towards the
improvement of your condition?
And so I really try to be a big proponent
of a lot of
education, a lot of comforting.
Sometimes we play therapists, you know,
the skin and the mind
are very closely connected.
And so a lot of times people come in with
conditions that can be very much related
to their stress level or other concerns
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that they have outside of our
office, at home and at work.
And so sometimes we chat about that too
and try to ease some of those pressures
as much as possible.
Is it just diet or stress or something
simple that can be solved without any
medical intervention?
Exactly, we sometimes
talk about holistic options.
So we'll talk about vitamins and
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supplements sometimes as alternatives to
antibiotics and other prescription
treatments that I do.
Because there could be such harsh results
if you go directly straight to all of the
chemicals and all of that.
Exactly, and if the root cause is
something you're
eating, let's correct it.
If the root cause is a vitamin or a
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nutrient that you're
missing, let's correct it.
Right, right.
So we touched on all the bigger things,
but do you also treat just simple, I say
simple, but it's never simple, like acne
and things like that.
So if somebody's just coming in with, I
cannot get rid of this acne, I keep
having these outbreaks, you know, or
things like that, they can come in and
see you for those type of things as well,
just general
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maintenance and all of those.
And then also diseases of the nails, I
think, is one that people don't realize.
Oh, I would not have
thought that's a dermatologist.
Yes, so dermatologists treat generally
everything, every body part that you can
visibly see with your naked eye, except
for sometimes the eyeball itself,
although sometimes I'll have some of our,
what I do will spill
over into also a touch.
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But it is your hair, your skin, your
nails, and also your mucosa.
So oral mucosa and
genital conditions as well.
Wow, I would never have known that the
scope was that large.
So thank you for sharing.
Well, tell people how they can reach you
and get ahold of you if they would like
to come in for a
consultation or receive your services.
Sure, so we are located here in Allen,
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Texas, at the intersection of Allen Drive
in 75, which is at Twin Creeks Medical
Center, building two.
And then our second location is in Dallas
at the intersection of Preston and
Beltline in Suite 100.
You can get our mailing address and
contact information on our website, which
is Skin Specialists, and the specialist
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is plural, the letter O and the letter
A.com, so SkinSpecialistsOA.com.
And then you can reach us
via telephone at 972-649-6644.
All right, well, that's amazing.
Thank you so much for
being here with us today, Dr.
Rogers, and I appreciate all of your
insight and hopefully we helped some of
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you at home know when it's time to go in
and see you in person.
So thank you so much for joining us.
Thank you, I enjoyed it.
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