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September 7, 2025 47 mins

When the game is on the line—fourth and one—you either play it safe or you go for it.


Athletes know that choice. So do people rebuilding life after sport or navigating sobriety. This episode breaks down what it really means to step into pressure moments and live with the outcome—win or lose.

Chris and Anne take the conversation from the NFL kickoff to Taylor Swift’s “Mamba Mentality” to personal stories of choosing risk in entrepreneurship, relationships, and sober living. If you’re an athlete asking, “Who am I now, and what does it look like to go all in on myself?”—this one is for you.


What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

• Why “going for it” is about more than the outcome—it’s about identity and resolve

• How lessons from sport translate to life after sport and sobriety

• The difference between fearlessness and the courage to live with both winning and losing

• How risk, resilience, and resolve show up in entrepreneurship and recovery

• Why practicing tough moments prepares you for when it’s truly fourth and one

Press play to hear why choosing courage over comfort changes everything—on the field and in life.

Resources & Links:

Clean Play Coaching

• Follow Anne on Instagram: @cleanplaycoaching

Follow Chris on Instagram: @sans_bar


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