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July 7, 2025 35 mins

Coach Fireside Chat Podcast - EP 8. 

When Motherhood Isn’t the Path: Thriving Without Kids with Jolanda van Bergen

In this episode of Coach Fireside Chat, host Karl Sandland interviews Jolanda van Bergen, the founder of Thriving Without Kids. Jolanda shares her personal journey of realising she would not become a mother and the concept of social infertility.

They discuss the emotional and social implications, the importance of recognising triggers, and the power of creating a supportive community for childless women.

Jolanda offers insights into her transition from grief to purpose and how she helps others navigate similar experiences.

This episode is a valuable resource for coaches and individuals seeking to understand and support those facing social infertility.


Key Topics/Chapters

00:00 Introduction

01:12 Diving into Childlessness with Jolanda

02:49 Jolanda's Personal Journey and Realisations

03:53 Understanding Social Infertility

05:14 Emotional Impact and Coping Mechanisms

09:17 Transitioning from Grief to Purpose

19:16 Triggers and Managing Emotional Responses

20:30 Creating a Safe Space for Childless Women

33:53 Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks


Want to connect with Guest Jolanda van Bergen?

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Coaching.Childless.Women 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jolanda-van-bergen-7022242b 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coaching.childless.women

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Coaching.ChildlessWomen 

Website: https://thrivingwithoutkids.com 


ABOUT ME

Hey, I'm Karl Sandland – AI & Automation Strategist.

Founder of BrighCX LTD, Mentor, ACXS-Certified Customer Experience Specialist, #1 Bestselling Author, Podcast Host, and Business Growth Community Leader. Named one of the Top 20 CX Professionals by Customer Experience Magazine (2022), with over 25 years in Senior IT and customer experience roles - and the visionary behind AGENTLY AI.

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