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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, good to see you guys. Tell you what,
I'm excited. Three days of full speed practice. We need,
we need all of it, and uh we get Wednesday, Thursday,
Friday full on. It's one thing to talk about improvement,
but uh we got to go do that and that
happens out in the practice field and help one another.
Get ready, have some good competition. You'll see back and
forth offense versus defense. And uh, I'm ready to get
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wrong with the team today. So let's get started with you.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Guys, with Jane and not on ir. What's the update
on him, you know, with the plan for him?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yep, we are actually going through like a final medical
meeting today regarding you know, second opinions and that put
the plan together. So we should have an update for
you here, you know, you know, the next day or so,
just being thorough through the whole process, like all the guys,
make sure all the opinions and then gather all the
info and then make the decisions from there.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
And then we've talked a lot about the physical toll
of the injuries and just like guys who are missing,
what's the mental toll on this many injuries on a team?
When you see I know it's next enough, but there's
what's the mental toll?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Like, yeah, that's a great question, John. It is because
there's continuity issues that take place. First off, when you
have an injury of people you know, not in sync
all the time together. But the mental toll, it's definitely
a big one. Is it's also for the guys that
are out, you know, some that are out that'll come back,
some that are out for the season, and uh, the
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ones that I worry about are the ones out for
the season. As far as the mental toll, collective lead team, like,
everybody goes through it, you know, and some stuff not injuries.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
But I'm saying hard things and you find your way
and you adapt.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
But it's better to acknowledge it, talk about it, and
you find the best plan moving forward. And if you have,
you know, the right mindset to go solve the problems,
you know, then Okay, this is what we need to
go do and this is how we need to go
do it. I think just being straight about it, John,
is the best approach to eliminate any doubt. And this
is how we're going to go win and each game
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is winnable, and you have to say this is how
we're going to go do it for this game, and
that may look different week to week in it and
but for us, that's where the focus goes. And I
try to explain that in the beginning of the week
and then you try to make that come to life
through the game plan and the practice and so having
a whole week to go do that against the town
of Detroit team, like, we'll need all the whole week
and the practice to do that.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Dan, what what is the film showing you about Mikey
this season?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I would say there's been up and down moments, meaning
the playmaker, the interceptions I saw at LA and you know,
the last couple of weeks, so the ballhawking mindset, which
I love.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
There's also been a couple of plays.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Of over trying, you know, to make those plays, and
that's that's kind of part of the process.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
You don't like to go through that. But when you're capable.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Of making plays, I'll make some more, and I'll make
a few more, and then all of a sudden, that's
not the one that you need to take a chance on.
In the basketball world, when can I'm not going to
force this shot, you know, That's that's what sometimes happens
to a ball player who has the skills to go
do that, and I think there's been some examples of
that this year, and I'm not surprised because he's a
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competitor and wants to help and make plays. And so
my part of my training with the guys and talking
to them, I want them to feel backs against the
wall and fight for that, but I don't want them
to overtry to make things up to go try to win.
Like the attitude the mindset, that's good, but not at
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the expense of veering off course to do something that
could have other consequences. And he has to learn that,
I would.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Say, but he's not alone in that.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
That's you know, everybody, when you're fight like hell, you
want to make a play for the team, you want
to change the course of things, and so it's actually
when you need to me the most disciplined. And those
are good, hard lessons, but ones that I'm certain that
he's learning to.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
What does he have to lean into as a second
year player who has this it's a natural kind of progression.
There's tape on you now, there's ways to attack you now,
And what does he have to lean into to kind
of get through those rough patches when it doesn't go
the way he would like.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
It to go.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, I think you have to lean into the discipline
and the technique because when you play with that and
you have that and you can lean on that, man,
then you're good, David, because now I know I can
play the technique and play it when you're maybe I'm
off on back, I want to take a shot. Then
you're not out of the technique. So I think there's
like a real discipline that has to take place. And
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as you're going through sometimes I feel like he's older
than going into the second year, but some of those
players that have more years.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Okay, that's not the time, That's not the place to
go take your shot.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
He's still learning that and I know that he'll learn
from there's a sharp, sharp guy.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
But we can't have ones where you can and where
you can't. So the discipline, I would say, is.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
The biggest factor for a ballplayer who's playmaker, because they
know they can make the next one and make the
next one. And so imagine that's much the same conversation
which the right shot when you've covered that. So it's
for the guys that aren't capable of making some of those,
they are probably more disciplined in sometimes because I can
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make that play all the way over there, where sometimes
a player thinks they can.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Two part playing off. That is it expected then that
you're seeing it in your two more so than you're
one with him, and then just with him and Kwan together,
just the two to go. How do you feel like
they're developing after a really strong first year together.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, that's a great question. And they're both going through
it too, you.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Know, like they want it to be right and good,
Like these are two really committed guys, and so you know,
going for Kwan, like whether it's a tackling you know
that didn't go the ray that you want, like any
somebody that I have all the faith in to get
those done. But when you miss them, you want to
talk about it knowledge and say this is what needs
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to be done to go make this play, get this
technique done, and sometimes.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Overtrying can be that way.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I want to do this, and I thought he was
going to do that, and like, now, man, just trust
the technique. And so I've since with both of them
some of that, and they're two guys that I just
believe in. So much and to stay in the discipline
of it and like those plays will generally be made.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
And then going back to the injuries, what is your
approach with Adam when you guys are digging deep into
the well of players that you need to find just
to have depth and reserve there. What does it change
from what it did normally at the start of the season.
I mean, how do you work this out with him?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, we talked through the team, you know, every day,
so that's the good part to dig in and he
and his staff and Lance and on the guys from
the pro side, they've really done a good job. It's
the hardest, I would say, Nikki when there's multiples out
of position, So for us that would be like widens
because then there's layers down to it. When it's elevate
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from the practice squad they've been in the system, but
in training camp that makes it a little bit easier
because system training, you know, like that person's getting themselves
ready for their opportunity, and you pray and you hope
that that doesn't come from the injury side. You hope
a player on the practice squad says, man, we got
to get his ass in the game. He is working
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it at practice, he's improving, he's getting there. The other
side is if a contingency happens, if he an injury
took place, he's ready to play. So I'd say it's
harder when you add those players in season because then
there's less bank reps, less continuity together. Not to say
it camp be done, of course it can, but that's.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Part of the hardest part.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I would say when there's layers out of position one, Okay,
that's a shift, and then but those two positions, I
would say it's harder because there's and there's more players
at that position. So you could say, well, it'd be
there's more to go, but still or four. You know,
it's a big number at a position, even at receiver
and the end or O line where you play more
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players than running back or quarterback.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Hey, coach, with Frankieluvu potentially suspended on Sunday, seems like
Jordan McGee is gonna get more run. What have you
seen from Jordan this season as far as that like
second year leap.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, we are very excited about Jordan. We've got some
good news on Frankie that he is not going to
be suspended. So that's that's a big deal. But what
you've seen from Jordan it was just like a fantastic
tackle for Lost in the game the other night. He's
a very square and secure tackler. You may have even
heard me talk about good linebackers who can play square
and the reason you want to do that. So if
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a ball is going outside and you overrun it, your
shoulders are turned, you can allow a cutback lane. And
so the best of the best man they can play square,
but have the quickness and the range to go from
side to side without.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Having to turn and run.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Jordan has that, and so I'm excited to see him develop,
and you know he's going to continue to develop and
make more plays over here.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
Yep, you told us on Monday you're going to bring
Joe Wi down to the field. Who goes anybody move
up to the booth and ultimately that move, what do
you expect will change or happen with him on that field?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Two parts.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
First, no one else is moving up from that spot
to go. Tom Donotel is on the path side is
up you know, in that space, so we're covered in
that way. What do you expect when or what's the
advantage is probably that you want to ask, you know,
like when you're up and you're down, obviously you can
see check so much, you.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Know, clearer from up top.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
You can see the substitutions, what you don't feel players,
and the fast communication that you sometimes need to get to.
So when you're not hitting a mark in a certain space,
it's the right call. If it's also happened the other
way when you're on the field and you know, okay,
he needs to get out of the emotion of it
and just see the play calling. So it's the right
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call for us at this time. So the players can
look directly at Joe, Joe can look directly at them
in between a series, you know, to go into that spot,
so no one is going to go up, but Joe
will come down and kind of want to give you
the you know, the pluses and minuses of those both
are effective. It just you know, by play caller and
what we need at the moment. You make changes and say,
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all right, this is what's best for us now. And
it's not that uncommon. We're you know, people have done
it in season out of season, one season to the next,
So I think it's the right change.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Up for us right now, and Dan, the trade deadline
came in went yesterday, And I know this is more
kind of Ape's department, but can you fils in it
all on why the team stood pat and if possible,
how close were you to make any sort of moves.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Well, first, you're right the you know, Adam and his
staff like they're really thorough man like they go through
it and that's part of you know, the process that
you go through all these different times a year, when trades,
when's draft time, you know, free agency. And one of
the things I admire about him is the thoroughness and
making like really good tough decisions, you know, and so
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when you go through a whole process, you know, lots
of factors would go into things to say, is it
the right deal, is it the right fit both sides?
And so when it comes together, you know he knows
exactly how he wants to handle it and where to go.
So he was in great communication with me, if you know,
like this time of year, everybody calls and talks, but
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you know he's really thorough and making sure to make
the best decisions.
Speaker 8 (11:34):
Dan, with the injury to Jaden and also all the
receiver injuries kind of leads to a natural progression of
running the ball more. But when the defense is aware
that you might be doing that more and stack in
the box, things of that nature goes into still remain
in effective, you know, in the run game during those moments.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, what I think you're saying is like you know, shots,
you know at bat, and so sometimes the play pass
that can come off the run game can be where
you have to, you know, make your mark to go.
So they're gonna be some times where a one yard
run or a two yard run.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
That's what like the stats would show.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
But the byproduct of that is this linebacker, this safety
going downhill, can you get a play pass in behind them?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
And so I think that's the balance of playing first
and second down football, and we need to be more
effective at both.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
The more effective you run play actions should be you
know a little bit more effective. But you have to
take the shots at the run game to do that.
And that's one of the areas that you know, like
is really important to us. And we've got good old
line running backs to get rolling. So I wouldn't say
it's like more important now, it's it's always a big
part of you know, playing good offense when you can
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have balance, So you know, we look forward to improving
in that area, I should say, instead of more or less.
Speaker 9 (12:47):
Then is there any balance between what's right in front
of you the Detroit game, you know, that game that week,
and the big picture of what's good for this roster,
this team in the long haul.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Well, I think always you want to like this.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
You may or may not have heard this term, but
like win now, but develop for tomorrow. And I think
you can have both buckets if you're organized and thoughtful
and how you're developing players. We know some first and
second year guys there's going to be more bumps in
the road than just a veteran who's played lots and
lots and lots.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
That's to be expected.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
But you can do both, and that's our approach here
to make sure we're I love on the first and
second year guys. Some of the developments that they're making.
It goes sometimes this and then this, and you know, like, man,
it'd be awesome if it just kept going up, but
that's not how like development works. So I think the
balance of both is important. But I think you can
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have two buckets, and I think you can do both simultaneously.
Some shift based on an opponent where you're at, but
I think you can do both.
Speaker 10 (13:52):
Dan, earlier you were discussing the becks against the wall mentality.
Curious have you seen that from this group over the
last couple of games? And if not, well, what does
that look like in your eyes on the field?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Well, I think you want to first, you know, like
that's a fighting mindset to find a way to dig
for it. And the nice part about our team, the
culture and environment is there to push one another to
get better. And when you don't hit the marks, like
the frustration of why and where and there can be
over trying or you know, step out wire or might
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not doing that to go make a play. And so
I think what it calls on with your back against
the wall is like real discipline, man, Like you don't
have to do anybody else's gig just yours are tough,
but like don't get out of the discipline of like
what's required for you and that's what's needed for us
in our team at this time.
Speaker 11 (14:45):
Kind of like you were talking with Mikey and the
defense playing within the defense there when you look at
the running game specifically, do you think that. Have you
seen the offense taking what's being given to them, or
do you think the folks are trying to you know,
press outside. I didn't do a little bit more and
make a bigger play out of something that's not necessarily there.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I think there could be signs of both.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
There was a run in the game where you know
it was a smaller distance to go, maybe a second
and one or that, where hey, man get the first
as opposed to and I can get the big one
over here though, now man get the first, and so
that's an example of real competitiveness misguided like the dog gas.
Competing is everything we love and want to be about.
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But I just got to stay in the discipline to
get this this moment, this yard, this conversion, and then
you go play again. Some of it come into penalties too,
you know, to say you grabbed you you shouldn't have
in the run game. You certainly don't want any penalties
on offense.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
In the run game.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
You know, if there is somebody sit in the quarterback
and you grab them like, that's where those should come.
But those are things that knock you out when you
can get a penalty that you know, like could have
been avoided because all of a sudden, you may go
from a second and a shore or a second down
now you're a second and twenty five and you stall,
and that kind of bleeds into like starting fast. You know,
we're ready to go second and twenty five, next drive,
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you know, another penalty to go, and all of a
sudden you're spinning, spinning, and you want.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
To get going.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
So I think the discipline, and it's not like I'm
gonna say that's the best way. They're not undisciplined. Don't overtry, right,
it's not annoying assignments or bullshitting. It's, man, this is
just hit this part and get it right. You know,
hit the target, get to the space. You don't have
to do the extra and the extra and as a
competitor sometimes that can be hard. I know I can
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make that play right over there. That's not the one
right now. This is what's needed. So it's not chaos
or that. It's truly like the discipline to just stay
in that space and at that moment, down after down
after down, and if somebody beat you on a good
play and I guess the NFL football and you can
live with that, but don't beat ourselves and too often
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when you do that, that's a hard ass hole to
climb out of, and when the margins are smaller, So
you want to make sure man stay in that space,
stay with the discipline, and if you can do that,
then you know, you give yourself, you know, a much
better shot at playing well.
Speaker 12 (17:10):
Hey, coach, and looking back at your corner back of room,
with the injury you had to mon Shawan out for
the year. I think Trey is nick with a little
hip injury. How are you looking to, I guess to
move that room around. Does Mikey maybe go back on
the outside Jonathan Jones? How how does that room look
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at this point?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, you're on the candidates of Jonathan Obviously he's gonna
play more and Noah, you know he's got the experience
inside is Nickel as well. So having Jonathan here, you know,
and Mike with both inside and outside flex that's a
big deal, Donna, because now you're not just he can
only play this spot. Think of it like the offensive
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lineman that can only play center and can't play guard.
So the fact that those two guys play both, that's
a big deal for us as well.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
So when you're outside that's.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
A tough job, and sometimes that's you know, like Marshawn
and Trey mostly play on the outside, but when you
have flexibility both it allows defensively to maybe there's a
matchup you like.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
You know, you can even switch in a.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Drive if you'd like, and so that can help too.
But you're on the right track. It'll take a few
guys to work through how we'll go, you know, moving
forward from here. All right, all right, thanks everybody,