Dealing with Daddy Issues w/ Aaron Herrera

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:53):
Alright, welcome back everyone.
Glad to be back at it again,ready to go.
Got another special guest here,my good friend and my ride or
die.
Yeah, maybe, hopefully.

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Go ahead and introduce yourself.
You could just give first name,last name, if you want to give
a quick brief description,awesome, if not, just go ahead
introduce yourself?

Speaker 4 (01:28):
okay, cool, cool.
Uh, name's aaron hurrah andreally, yeah, just chill, shy
kind of in a purse never donethis before, so something new
and hopefully, uh, you get adecent amount of views for this,
because I think so because your, uh, your voice is so soft and

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sensual right now.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I I feel like you're gonna have a lot penny droppers
out there listening to thatvoice I doubt it.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
They're gonna be like yeah, who's that little girl
you put on this show?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
like jesus Jesus man, no man, it sounds good.
Like I said in my headphones,you sound very mysterious.
You're just a chill guy.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Chill guy, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
So we've known each other for how long now?

Speaker 4 (02:21):
How long has it been Damn eight years, eight years,
seven, eight, seven, eight years, eight years, seven, eight,
seven, eight years roughly mantime flies dude, time fucking
flies for sure, especially whenyou you and your kids you
actually start seeing the agesyeah, because you have three
kids.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, and how old are you, how old are your kids?

Speaker 4 (02:44):
my oldest is six, the middle one is five and, uh, the
youngest is gonna be two so yougot a pretty spread out, but
yeah yeah, the oldest in themiddle a little bit closer, but
my youngest, yeah, it was splitup, actually just turned three
yeah right, he just had abirthday yeah so how young were

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you when you had your firstchild?
My first 21.
I turned 21.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
That's young, that's young man, oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
I mean.
My philosophy on it is get itdone younger, but being ready I
mean no one's really ever ready.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
But for the most part you were like we're going to
have a kid, we're going to takecare of the kid, I'm going to do
what I got to do, and it wasjust boom.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Oh for sure, that's how I was always raised.
In a sense.
I never had a father figure inthe direction that I wanted, but
my father was always therefinancially Paying stuff, stuff
like that, like that.
Mine didn't have no lucrative,nice lifestyle, but I mean there
was something to eat, so but Imean never, never, had no video

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games and stuff like that.
But being ready for kids mementally I knew I was gonna fuck
up somewhere, but well, I thinkI think not.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
There's not a single parent who could say they were
perfect no raising kids there'sespecially your new, newly
parents.
Oh, we're always fucking up allthe time until it's like you
don't become a pro.
Until you get that second orthird kid sometimes, and even
then you're not really a pro.
You're just experienced moremanaging yeah managing at that

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point?
no, I was.
I was terrified, for, uh, whenI found out we were having our
first, our first kid, I wasterrified.
I think I don't even know howold I was.
I mean, my oldest is going tobe 11, but I'm 35, so I was
about 24, maybe mid mid 20s,when we had our first, son

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Lorenzo, and I would just, I wasscared man, because, as a new
parent like you, don't wantanything bad to happen to your
kid.
Like you follow the rules,you're reading guides, manuals,
blah, blah, blah.
You got to be on this and that.
And then, by your second orthird kid, you're like so laxed

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on shit, raising them, it's like, as long as you just make sure
they have a roof over their headyou know, food to feed them,
clothes to put on their backs.
I think the hard part is justraising a kid, learning morals,
values and just trying to growthat person into, hopefully, a

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functioning adult that couldtake care of themselves.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Yeah, I think that's the hardest part.
It's just being able for themto learn values and morals just
because here's some, there'ssome fucked up kids out there
that just no respect, don't knowanything, don't, don't listen.
So that's the hardest part.
Uh, my oldest actually is onthe autistic spectrum, so it's

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difficult.
He you know I don't want todiscipline my other kids.
He thinks I'm disciplining onhim.
Like I can speak in a loudertone yeah but it's got nothing
to do with him and he thinks I'myelling at him well, that's
tough and then it's.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
It's a little challenge it's just challenging,
it's just an additionalobstacle, it is.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
But you know what he's got routines.
If he's on a routine, dude,that kid's amazing, amazing,
yeah, like him.
If you set him on a time,perfect, he follows his
schedules.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
That's the biggest thing with him.
I guess it may be a thing wherehe's just more relaxed and
focused when he's got some kindof structure.
And then if nothing isstructured, then it's just chaos
and he just has a hard timedealing with that.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah, because once he's on structure's file he
never really he won't ever freakout, cause, like once he
interviews new people, yeah he'slike who the hell are you?
He'll cover his ears up andstuff like that.
But no, if he's on a schedule,he knows he's gotta pack his

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lunch for school, dress shoes,all that stuff.
That's, that's him.
You send him.
Go put your shoes on, go putyour coat on.
Yes sir, straight to it.
The other kids, yeah, no, thoseare handful.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
It's one of those things where a lot of kids, I
think, go through differentphases.
Not every kid's going to be thesame.
Not every kid learns at thesame rate, and I think when they
get a little older the brainsdevelop a little bit more.
I think that's when theirpersonality takes over a little
bit more and some of the stuffthat maybe he was doing at five

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and six, now, when he's eight,nine, ten years old, he that's
no longer exists anymore, and itit's not all always true, but I
think in my opinion, a lot ofkids go through a lot of
different phases yeah, becausemy middle child is a big cry
baby and my other, my oldest,hasn't gone through that, but my
youngest is kind of picking upon it, like he sees that he can

(08:22):
get away with certain things,you know, trying to play that
same card without reallynoticing it.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
But they all have their own little phases yeah, I
think so.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
I think, like I said, kids, especially the younger
they are, they they pick up onthings.
That you may not think thatthey know what's going on, but I
think, deep down, a lot ofyounger kids, they they know
what's up or they have a feelingand they pick up on things that
parents don't think they wouldnotice or parents try to hide

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stuff.
They're, they pick up on thestuff yeah, that was one of the
things.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Thing I had with her was I don't want to argue in
front of my kids because I'vehad a.
Do I want to get into that Sure.
So my family is very old schooland like my dad you guys have

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seen him, you guys all know them.
My dad, you guys have seen him,you guys all know them.
And like how your wife's brothersays he's an amazing father
father figure and he wants to belike him and like dad.
I was like.
You know him on the outside,you know how he is now and
caring and all that, but youdon't know what happens when you
close doors.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Fuck it, let's get into daddy issues.
I got daddy issues too, I'llshare with you whatever I'm
telling you, go ahead like let'sget into it.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah, okay, so we're like with my, my family, um, my
dad was never really around.
He works a lot.
He was paying financially andthat way, yeah, he financially
supported uh, my, my mom,because mom never worked.
Uh, she worked when we werelittle and then, I think, like
two weeks later, my dad was likejust stay home, no point.

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You know, you're working to paya babysitter and at the end of
every week you get 50 bucks.
Mine just is like, yeah, 96, 97, 95, 90 you know um, so it
wasn't really worth it.
But everybody sees my dad as agreat dad, great father figure,
you know, always being there forme and stuff like that.
But my dad has a pretty shadybackground.

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You know, he tried they triedto not fight in front of us, but
obviously he's I think 12,think 12, 13 years old.
That's when I startedeverything kind of like really
unravel.
Um, like my dad's a heavydrinker, like all day, every day
, um 12 pack, 16, 24, whateveryeah, my dad, okay, my dad

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drinks water and he's heactually gets sick.
Water for him is coronasliterally he.
He prefers that over water popsanything.
That's what he drinks.
He.
She goes to work in his van.
He's got a cooler in that bitchwith with beer.
Um, so my dad has a drinkproblem and stuff like that.

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Uh, and slowly over the yearshe got more physical with my mom
and started hitting my mom andyou know, slowly growing up
that's hard to deal with itbecause at the young age you
look at your father and you'relike all right, I want to be
just like.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, you see him as a superhero, yeah and especially
and I don't know how old youwere, but even even into your
like 10, 11, 12 year old stage,I mean it's still hard to
comprehend seeing like yourfather hit your mom or your
father being verbally abusivetowards your mom.

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Like kids especially, theydon't know how to comprehend
that.
So I mean, like kids especially, they don't know how to
comprehend that.
So I mean, like I said, I don'tknow how old you were when you
started to notice that stuff,but it's hard for any type of
kid to comprehend that I waspreteen there.
So you so you, you had, you kindof knew what was going on, like
what the actions were, but Iwould have and you correct me if

(12:24):
I'm wrong, but maybe you justdidn't know how to internally
process it- well, yeah, becausemy dad's biggest thing was don't
put your hands on a woman ornever do that.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
You know, don't ever show your anger to anybody like
that.
And it's like crazy you saythat but then turn around and
hit the only person, two peoplethat I think in my life were
important at that timecompletely yeah of course.
So you know, one time, once yousee one time, it's like, all
right, my hero's actually avillain in my eyes at this point

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and it's like is this what Iwant in my future life?
Is this a normal thing?
And then kind of start askingyour own cousins like, hey, how
is your dad with your mom?
Yeah, because, you're confused.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
at that point You're confused.
You're probably just, I guess,confused, right?
Yeah.
I guess that's the best way toput it.
So would you say that, like, asyou're seeing this and
experiencing this, would you saythat you lost respect for your

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dad?
Obviously you still love yourdad and, like I said, I'm
assuming but was there like aperiod where you're like I hate
you dad or I don't respect you?
Oh, that question hurt yes, no,I mean you know what?

Speaker 4 (13:52):
at the time I hated him and as I'm getting older I
lose the hate because it's likehe has his own reasons.
He has his own demons in hishead but you don't, you're not
gonna.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
that's not an excuse, because it's like he has his
own reasons, he has his owndemons in his head, but you
don't, you're not going to.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
yeah that's not an excuse.
That's not.
Yeah, okay, no, no, no, no.
I still don't trust him likethat anymore.
My mom still to this day.
I've never liked him for doingit.
He's always been like.
That was my biggest let down inmy life.
Um, you know, I I have lost alot of respect for him for doing
that, especially since he saysdon't do that, and you know your

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own uncle's doing, and it'slike you're a hypocrite.
So what does it fucking matter?
You know, like you do toyourself, so I was like you
can't say nothing to me,especially to try to give me
advice or anything like that.
My like relationship wise, um.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
But to me personally, if my mom dies I would cry my
dad, I don't think so you knowit's funny you say that because
I kind of have the samediscussion in my last episode,
like just talking about death.
This is weird, like that and Ithink I'm right with you on that
just because death is such aweird thing to me.

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But I think if I got the phonecall right now and they said my
father just passed away, I'd belike damn, like I don't think I
would shed a tear at that point.
Now, who's to know?
I mean, it might be somethingwhere I go to the funeral and

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I'm still okay, but then I seethe body still okay, and then
two weeks later I just ball out,who knows?
Like I said, death for me is avery weird, weird thing.
But I do agree with that.
I think I'm the same way if my,if I heard that my dad passed,
I don't think I would shed atear.

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Now I can't say I ever wouldn'tshed a tear.
I just know when and if thatwould be.
So let's jump ahead until nowreal quick.
Are you and your dad, how'syour relationship?
Relationship with your, yourdad?
I mean, is there like we'recool, we just talk business, or

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do you have a relationship withyour dad?

Speaker 4 (16:14):
no, I really don't have a relationship.
Um, we're, we're cool.
Uh, he sees my kids, all stufflike that.
You know, um, he has his owncompany, so I'm gonna be taking
over and all that kind of stuff.
So I know that's gonna be a bighurdle, just because we don't
have, like the father-sonconversation ever um, I was

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mainly raised by my mom becausehe was always working.
So I have that bond with my mom.
So that's that's why I say forher I would definitely cry,
because I see her as both momand dad at the same time, um,
but with my dad.
No, it's very strictly businessum, business, that's it.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
I don't ever spend time with him you want to have a
father and son relationshipwith him?
Or are you to the point whereit's like it's been so long it's
been like this, I don't evencare?
Or does it internally deep downbother you still?

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Deep down it does bother me what he did to my mom.
But as to having a relationshipwith him, I do to an extent
Because once, like I said,they're old school, so they try
to push their old school valuesonto you and they make you feel
like shit when you're not doingwhat they want you to do.

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Of course, when it's like youknow new generations, it's a
different vibe.
A lot of stuff has changed.
But with him, no, I don't want.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
You're okay.
You're okay not to have that,that father son relationship.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
It'd be nice to come to him and, you know, get
something off your chest once ina while because getting having
people to listen to you and notgive a bunch of two cents or
that negative advice.
It is nice because I've heardmy dad give great advice to
other people that, um, reallyaren't family or friends and
stuff like that and he givesgreat advice he really does but

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for me I feel like he treatsother people with more respect
and more hierarchy compared tohis own kids I got you which is
a little weird, but I understand, because sometimes, like your
friends, you're more lenientwith them compared to your kids.
You want better with your kids.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
With your friends you're like, oh, that's cool,
man, come on, I hope you alsoportion so would you agree
though that just come beingbrought up in a hispanic,
mexican, latin household, andit's probably more so you than
me, because I was more broughtup on maybe I'm just on that

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white mexican and yeah, exactlybut you, I mean, you grew up in
a very strict Mexican Catholichousehold.
Yeah, okay, so you grew up likeyou said, in that old school.
Do you agree that in generalHispanics, and specifically men,

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it's harder for men to expressthemselves Completely, to talk
things out Completely, right toexpress themselves?
Completely To talk things out.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Completely.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Right, you would agree Completely.
I think.
Statistically and just if youtake a poll of a thousand just
Hispanic men, I think majoritywould be like yeah, that was
never a thing in my household.
I was always told to keep thatshit inside and not express
feelings and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
You could be a bitch.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Right, that was kind of like the rule.
I'm like why are you whining?
Why are you crying?
Be a man.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Like man up.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
That was and that's what sucks now.
Now, because even though Iwasn't raised with like the old
school Catholic, hispanic,mexican, you know household, but
it was still the same thingspecifically with my father was
why are you crying, boy?
Why are you whining like man upnow?

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When I was?
Because I was mostly raised bymy mother, but still it was one
of those things where she had towork all the time.
So it's like I was raised by mygrandmother and then when she
had time she would take care ofme.
But even then, it's like evenliving in a single household

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which, just like the mother,it's not the same as being
raised with a father and I Ithink I learned that the hard
way.
And then, before I get goingmore so into my story, I do want
to ask you do you think it'sworse to be raised without a
father or to be raised with thefather, who may be alcoholic,

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abusive there, but notphysically there for you?
Which one do you think is worsefor a child absent father or a
father who's there but justisn't worth shit?

Speaker 4 (21:21):
for me it would be the one that isn't worth shit,
because even in my situation, myfather was never really there
mentally all the way for us.
You know, like that caringperson, I have moments where
he's like great, you know playcatch me sorts like that, but it
outweighs the other side.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
It's almost like having that forbidden fruit
things there.
So it's like, yeah, my father'shere, but he's not the father I
want him to be, and it's likeI'm it's so close I could touch
it, but just, you never get thatfruit.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
It is that fatherly, I mean it is, but at the same
time, it's like one of thosethings where you I walk around
with fear in my house sometimes.
Am I gonna get my ass beat?
When's the the next argumentgoing to happen?
When my mom's going to fucksome shit up?
Oh, I put too much salt in thefood.
What the fuck is this bullshit?
It's something that you'reconstant on guard.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
On guard.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
And sometimes when I see my dad like that, it's like
why are you here?
Sometimes it would have beenbetter without you.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
But financially wise.
Wise, yeah, he's there, yeah,always.
No, that that's a very goodpoint I didn't think about.
Think about it that way becausewhen I grew up so my mother was
with my father I was the firstborn.
We didn't have my brother untilI was five years old.
So there's a good five years,five, yeah, about five years

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where it was your own, yeah onmy own with me and my, my father
.
And obviously I can't remembereverything back then, but there
are very strong memories of mebeing around my father, living
in the house that we lived inthe harbor, east chicago,

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indiana.
So I I vividly remember thehouse I remember.
I have memories of growing upin the house, but the memories I
have of my father piss me offall the time.
And it's more so becausegrowing up I can't think of one

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single memory of getting anytype of like fatherly advice.
I can't remember any, anymemories of like at a boy or
like.
I can't even remember my dadhugging me.
You know like it sucks, becausemost of my memory is living with

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my grandma, my ma, taking careof me, because from the time my
mother split with my dad, I wasand the timeline is going to be
a little fuzzy but I wasprobably and the timeline is
going to be a little fuzzy but Iwas probably seven, eight years
old when they split and then wemoved to my grandma's house and

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then my ma worked at the casino, so she had night shift, so she
was gone all night.
I really didn't get to see my ma, or at least I don't remember
seeing a lot of my ma.
I would say my grandmotherraised me and my other brother
for a good portion, because fromthe time my father and mother

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split and the time that mymother met my stepdad, it was a
good portion.
I I don't think it was probablymaybe four or five years before
like dealing with the fact mydad wasn't around anymore and

(24:59):
moving into this house with thisother man that's supposed to be
my father.
And I've said this before andI've talked to my stepfather
since then.
But I've always had an issue ormaybe I was just too stubborn
or too strong-headed to reallyaccept my stepfather as my

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father.
You know, he was always just oh, he's, you know here, here.
You know, I I never saw him as afather figure, so I never went
to him for fatherly advice.
So I mean in my head I wasbasically just raised by my

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mother pretty much my whole life, because even to my teens,
where I've my stepfather hasbeen raising me and my brother
for years at this point tookcare of us, you know, never hit
me.
He wasn't abusive, I mean justall-around guy.
But even in my teenage yearsand even to my 20s, I just never

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internally seen him as myfather and I should have.
This man took me in, like hedidn't have to, you know, but he
loved my ma.
He knew I came with her, gladlytook me in, fed me, made sure I
had clothes on my back, madesure I had a roof over my head,

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paid for stuff to do sports,whatever.
He was my father, he was myfather.
But I was so stubborn about itthat I still deep down wanted my
father to be my father kind ofstep up yeah, and yeah, my dad

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was here and there.
Like I remember back in the daywhen I was little, I would go to
his house.
You know, I would see him hereand there.
My mother did not want me to goand see him because he still
lived in east chicago, soobviously not the nicest
neighborhood and stuff like that.

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So, shoot, there was alwaysconcern.
But I remember going to hishouse and I would play with my
other cousins, stuff like that.
So I have memories of my dadwhen I got a little older and I
have memories spending time withhim, but I shit you, not man.
I don't have any memories ofhim being a father and you know

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what's fucked up and I've talkedabout it in therapy.
I have one strong memory of himand it it makes it makes me so
sick.
All right, it's me playingbaseball, like not t-ball, but
little league.
I probably was 10, 11 years old.

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This man would never come to mygames.
My mother was always there.
So for him to come to a game waskind of like fucking christmas
for me but there was one game Iwas playing third base and the
ball got hit and I missed it forwhatever reason.

(28:15):
Maybe it got under my glove,we'll pass you yeah, and I shit
you not.
All I hear is my father fromlike the third base dugout and
like behind the fence yelling atme what's wrong with you, or I
don't know the specifics, but Iremember him yelling like why
did you miss that ball?

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And I just remember feeling sofucking sick and so like
disgrace, like I disappointed myfather and it was.
It's horrible.
And that memory is so vivid inmy head that I think sometimes
when I think about it, I get alittle teary and because I don't

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have any good memories, like ifif you ask me give me top five
good memories of my father, I Ican't give you probably even one
good one, and it fucking sucksbecause I even after all this
shit, after he left and hedidn't fight for me.

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I think that's what reallyfucked me up is I don't feel
that he fought to get me backand and I could be wrong,
because I never had thisconversation with them and,
honestly, when I started thispodcast, in my head you're like
you know what?
I'm gonna bring my dad ontothis show and we're gonna talk

(29:49):
some shit out and it's probablygonna be a fucking emotional
mess for probably both of us.
But I I do want to know, likewhat the hell, man?
What happened between you andmy mother?
Why didn't you come see me asmuch as you should have?
Why didn't you fight for me?
Like there's so many questionsI have for this man.

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But even after all that, even asI got into my teen years, in my
adult years, I still wanted tohave a relationship with this
man because he was my father,he's my blood.
Like I share his fucking namefor god's.
He named me, he made me ajunior, like I still had it's

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fucked up because I think aboutit now.
I still had respect for thisman, but he wasn't even in my
life majority of the time likeyeah, he'd give me presents and
stuff for my birthday.
He'll say, hey, happy birthday,and I'm and I'm sure there's
probably worse deadbeat dads outthere- probably, but I think

(30:56):
yeah, but I think mentally it's.
It's just.
It's a weird situation that Istill had so much love, respect
and I still adore this man towhere I was, so I looked forward
to like having a drink with himwhen I turned 21, like like why
this man hasn't done anythingfor me.

(31:19):
He was so far behind on childsupport so he wasn't helping me
and my mom, so it was just.
It was a weird situation, man,and I think it fucks me up now a
little bit like I don't thinkabout it on a daily basis.
I don't go through the day butlike, oh damn, like my dad

(31:39):
fucked me up, like it's not evenlike that, but if we get
talking to it into it a littlebit like I won't be surprised if
there's something that I saythat just may spark fucking
waterworks out of nowhere.
And it's so fucked up that Idon't know why, and it seems to

(32:01):
be a reoccurring theme withpeople on my show that have
either deadbeat dads, dads thatare alcoholics, dads that are
abusive, dads that weren't there.
It's like, man, I look at mykids and I'm like I could not
imagine just voluntarily notwanting to be with my kids.

(32:26):
You know what I'm saying and Iknow I've been rambling a little
bit, but that's pretty much mystory, and me and my brother
haven't talked to my father inprobably five years now Because
we used to stay in contact.
Like I said, I used to go hangout with them in the bars when I
was 21, 22, maybe up, maybe upto where lorenzo was born, so

(32:51):
mid-20s yeah and then somethinghappened where he got into it
with my brother and he told he,my brother told me that he
called one day because he wouldyou know what and he used to
drink.
He used to drink because me andhim would get phone calls and
voicemails and you could tellthis man was drunk, drunk as

(33:14):
hell he was like hey boy.
I miss you, love you, call meback.
I love you so much.
So there it is again, fatherwho drinks and can't get his
shit together.
And but the back to the story,my brother says yeah, I got into
it with dad.
he was calling my mom's name andhe was saying that I wish I

(33:40):
didn't have you, like telling mybrother this I'm like that
fucking guy.
So me and my brother, just wecut him off like blocked him,
like didn't talk to him and wehaven't talked to him for like
damn near five years and hewould reach out to us and try to
get a hold of us on socialmedia, whatever.
But this man, he's got threeother kids with another woman,

(34:05):
so like I have like a stepsisterand two stepbrothers that I
probably haven't seen in 10years out there right now.
So like I mean, I get it Likehim and my mom are separated,
like yeah, go have your own life.
But it like pissed me off alittle bit Like man, it makes

(34:26):
you feel like he chose them.
Yeah right, and it sucks, man,Like there's so much mental
twine in my head that I probablywould need a long session of
therapy to kind of like untangleall that to be okay.
But it's really fucked up and Iknow I've been talking for a

(34:49):
very long time but I don't getto say that story a lot.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
Well, I'm glad you shared that with me Because I've
always wanted to know yourwhole dad situation, Because
your stepdad's great dude he's agreat guy.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
That dude's amazing.
That dude's fun, he's awesome.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
He really is great dude.
He's a great guy.
That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
That's awesome, he really is he really is and um,
he's really chill he is, and itit pisses me off and it it
didn't recently piss me off,until probably in the last year
or two, because I've I've beenthrough so much just mentally
and growing as a person and itjust pissed me off, like, and I
told him like man, like I'm sosorry that I didn't accept you

(35:30):
as my father way back, and Ishould have treated him so much
better than I did.
And it's not like I was a dickto him, it's not like I was you
were surprised to rebellious.
Yeah, I was rebellious towardhim and and it was more like
just the lack of a respect thatI gave that man growing up

(35:50):
pisses me off now, because hedid not deserve that.
He did everything that he wassupposed to do as a husband and
as a father, and he had two ofhis own kids, of course, which
my other, my other stepbrothersthat you've met, and so he's.
He had his own kid and but andnow that I think about think

(36:10):
about it he wasn't even the typeof guy to really treat them
differently than me and my otherbrother right, and there might
have been stuff here and there,but just I can't think of any
like concrete memories of himLike man, he really showing
favoritism, no, like he's agreat guy.

(36:32):
He didn't deserve all therebellious and lack of respect
that I gave him growing up.
And I told him that and I thinkit took a lot for me to realize
that and to even tell him thatman, what was his reaction when
you told him that?
And I think it took a lot forme to realize that and to even
tell him that what was hisreaction when you told him that
he cried a little bit, I think alittle tear came down.

(36:58):
He just told me I reallyappreciate you saying that it
was just more of a a betterconnection between the two.
I think maybe, uh, more of arespect between us yeah and I
think, I think it was for thebest, but it just low-key kind

(37:18):
of sucks that it took me until Iwas 34 years old 35 years old
to like to learn these type oflessons.
You know what?
I'm saying Like it.
It takes some shit.
That should have been commonsense.
But you know you can't controlyour feelings or you can't,
you're you know, a lot of timesyou can't comprehend certain

(37:39):
feelings, so you don't know whatit means, and especially as a
kid and a teenager, it's, it'srough, it's, it's really like a
unknown thing you know, and itreally takes a strong person,
like a strong parent, to try toprepare your kids for the kind
of like the emotional strugglesthat could come with growing up,

(38:01):
and but I think me not having afather figure early and then me
not accepting another fatherfigure later in life just kept
me like isolated almost you know, where I didn't have a support

(38:22):
to talk to, like I had my mama.
Mama was great.
She did a fantastic job raisingme.
She was harsh when she had tobe, she was loving when she had
to be and she got me whatever Iwanted.
So it's it's 100 daddy issueswith me, like I tell you it?

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Nothing but daddy issues.
Nothing but daddy issues, dude.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
It took me going to therapy and talking it out with
other people to reallyunderstand the mistakes that I
made and the decisions that Imade, to understand why I made
certain decisions and I'm hopingthat helps me guide my kids,

(39:11):
you know, and help them.
But yeah, it it's.
It's messed up, man, and it'sstill stuff that I'm dealing
with now, and so to go back toyou now was was all your brother
, so you have a brother and asister, right?
Just?
One other brother, one othersister.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Yeah, and the oldest.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Were they getting the same treatment?
Or because you were the oldest,you took the heat the majority
of it?

Speaker 4 (39:39):
No, we kind of distributed it all evenly.
I was always more trying toprotect them from it.
You know I was the one thatwould stay up at night.
I would hear them argue, youknow, I'd tell them to go to bed
and lay in bed with them andkind of comfort them.
Um.
But once I started, once itactually became 2021, I slowly
started moving out.

(39:59):
Never told my parents I left,like I've never told them I'm
moving out, I just move likeshit.
Really.
Slowly but surely, and they kindof got the hint, you know and
um.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
But that did that turn into a like a big thing, or
they just.
Okay, he's gone Bye.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
No, they threw him in my face all the time.
Like my brother and my sistersdo feel like that.
I never told them Becausethey're like, well, you know,
you always kind of protect usand shield us from things and
they feel like they're protector, shield kind of person, kind of

(40:34):
left.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Also, your brother and sisters felt some type of
way of you leaving too.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Yeah, even they felt some type of way when I left,
but they slowly kind of got ityeah, you know they thought
about it like in a positive wayof oh, he's trying to run away
from this.
You know he's trying to bebetter himself, not just be a
constant shield punching backfor everybody 21?

Speaker 2 (40:58):
how old is the second sibling?

Speaker 4 (41:00):
oh my, it's my brother, then my sister.
We're all like a year and somemonths okay, okay so we're all
same.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah, you guys are all on the same kind of level
when it comes to like yourmindset yeah, we all went
through high school and stufflike that.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
we were, you know, at one point.
We were three years apart, sowe were all in high school at
one time.
But no, they, I guess when Ileft, it changed a little bit.
My dad became less aggressiveand the little bit that they

(41:32):
have seen of my dad and them, mybrother, stepped up a lot, a
lot.
They were outside, they wentout, they were outside, my
parents were inside arguing andthey could tell a little out.
You hear, you hear thecommotion from the inside, from
the outside.
And uh, my sister was told mybrother no, no, no, don't go in,

(41:54):
don't go in like let them fightit out, let them argue it out.
And my brother heard my dad'svoice get louder and louder and
you can tell when someone'sgonna be aggressive physically
oh, oh yeah.
And at that moment my brothersaid fuck that, we're going in
there.
If they got a problem, we got aproblem.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Oh shit Okay.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
And I told my brother .
I was like, step up.
I was like, if you have toprotect my sister, whatever it
takes, you know my mom same will.
Because at that time me and mybrother both agreed we had this
slight resentment towards my dad.
But being a man, you have toprotect everyone that you care
about.

(42:31):
So they went in completely andat that moment my mom and dad
were in the kitchen.
My mom was running away from thesituation and my dad was
drinking.
So he had a beer in his hand.
He threw it, lobbed it straightat my mom, hit.
My mom was running away fromthe situation and my dad was
drinking.
So he had a beer in his hand.
He threw it, lobbed it straightat my mom, hit my mom.
And that's when my dad, mybrother, stepped up.
My dad got up and they hadtheir exchange of words and same

(42:56):
thing with my mom and my sisterstepped up, said the same thing
that's fucked up.
And my dad's over here tellingthem that's fucked up.
And my dad's over here tellinghim like, oh, get the fuck out
of here.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
And well, he's probably belligerent.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Oh, completely he's you know which is crazy because
a lot of people say when you'redrunk, your true self comes out.
You know, everything that youball up in your mind, in your
head kind of comes out, you know.
And he told my mom and mysister and just completely told
him like, oh, you guys arehorrible and you guys don't love
me.
And just shit like that, and mybrother took it pretty hard,

(43:31):
but at that point he was readyto fight my dad.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
It probably made him grow up a little quicker than he
wanted to.
Yeah, oh, completely it madehim grow up.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
And my brother stays with him.
Now it's just him, my mom andmy dad.
And now my brother has arelationship with my dad, but in
more respect.
You know, do this, go do that.
You know you don't pay renthere.
Go cut the grass, jerk, orwhatever.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Loki, do you have any unintentional resentment
towards your brother for havingthat relationship that you kind
of wanted?

Speaker 4 (44:07):
completely not.
No, no, not at all, because Idon't I'll have that father son
relationship in the future.
Um, but not having a resentmenttowards him because we both
agreed.
You know you, if you want to befriendly and like that with my
dad, then go ahead.
You know there's no resentment.

(44:28):
I'm not gonna judge him for itor anything like that.
You know he's helped my dad outa lot and my dad's helped him
more through college and gettinghis own place and stuff like
that.
But with us me, my, it's alittle bit less.
But completely like resentmenttowards him, no.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
That's good.
Not at all.
Now, did you ever have anincident where you stepped in
front of your dad to protectyour moms, or anything like that
?

Speaker 4 (44:57):
Yeah, I kicked my dad out of a fucking car.
Did you yeah?
Because at that age I waslearning how to drive and at the
time we had a Tahoe, a burgundyTahoe, which kind of it was
cool to the nice but it justsucked.
It didn't have 4x4.
And at the time we were drivinghome my dad was teaching me how
to drive.
So it had the two main seatsbut the middle center console

(45:19):
part, it had the cup holder andstuff like that and it would pop
up and become a seat?

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
So at that time my brother and my sister in the
back, my mom and my dad were upfront, my dad was passenger seat
, my mom was in the middle andmy parents were arguing.
I pulled up to the housealready and my brother and my
sister, I told them hey, go openthe door.
You know, open my dad's bedroomand stuff like that so we can

(45:43):
go inside.
And uh, my mom and dad, theywere arguing.
Uh, we were still inside thecar kind of sitting, you know,
just pulled up till my brothersgo and they were arguing and
leave me alone, don't touch me,don't do this.
Oh, you're a piece of shit, youknow, I hate you, you don't
care about me, you don't love methe kind of sob story.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Was it every day or was it just like?
Almost every weekend almostlike a weekend.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
It was a weekend thing for sure um, at that time
he was drinking a little bitless, but um, when he would
drink, he'd do a drink.
There was no bottom to it, okayyou know, anything that goes,
any alcohol completely, ratherbe shots, mixed drinks,
cocktails, whatever it would gothrough him.

(46:30):
And uh, in that situation, uh,he tried to get physical with my
mom and I was younger.
So I knew I couldn't, Icouldn't.
Even if I hit my dad he'd belooking at me like who the fuck
are you, your little ass kid?
So I knew at the time, if I'mgonna deter my dad, I'd have to

(46:51):
fucking throw my whole weight onhim.
So at that time I was like,alright, put my fucking left
hand on like the armrest andjust kick the shit out of him.
So you straight like oh.
I completely, oh really I pushedmy mom to the back and I had
both my feet oh and I justfucking kicked my dad out of the
truck and he hit the fuckingground, the grass, and my mom

(47:14):
got pissed at me, you know I gotpissed, yeah she got pissed
because I fucking them up.
You know, and she's like youshould never done that.
You know your dad's gonna bethe best off and you know you
should be hitting them.
It's your dad respect.
I'm like what kind of respect?
Yeah the one he gives you orwhat.
And yeah, I left him.
We left him out there for likean hour.
Yeah, on the street, on thefloor, on the grass street

(47:36):
whatever that's hard and um, Ithink that was when my mom
actually felt slightly more safewith me around her.
Um, because even then, likewhen I was growing up, she did
not want to go with my dad's.
Like when my mom actually feltslightly more safe with me
around her Because even then,when I was growing up, she did
not want to go with my dad toparties because of the way he is
.
If it was me, my brother, mysister, then, yeah, he'd be like
all right, she'd be like let'sgo, let's go, I can understand,

(47:57):
I feel a little bit more safearound you.
So, yeah, I kicked him out thatwas pretty fun, that was pretty
fun it was.
I mean, it was because you feellike damn.
I do have some kind of strengthyeah and I can't deter my dad
and I can't protect my momyou're a protector?

Speaker 2 (48:14):
yeah, for sure.
So I finally felt like it wasgood.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
You know, my sister and my brother, my brother in
the house looking out the windowlike damn, he fucking pushed
his ass out, fucked him up.
So they see me as well, like,oh you know what, dad, he can
protect us a little bit, even ifit's a little bit, but still.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Still something Something.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
Over nothing, or instead of like taking even if
it's just me being a punchingbag for my dad, all right, it's
cool that he didn't hit my momor my brother or my sister, so
that's if it made me feel betterabout myself, so to know that I
can push him back and hurt hima little bit then.
Yeah, for sure enjoyed it, yeah.
I enjoyed it.
I did it was a good time.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
I mean at the moment, no, but now, as I look back at
him, I'm like yeah, that'spretty cool.
Yeah, he doesn't remember thatat all.
I will say that he doesn'tprobably doesn't remember a lot
of the situations, right, or?

Speaker 4 (49:11):
some he does, but in clips like how I go, you know
when you black out, and shitlike that you remember some of
it, but then you wake up andyou're like, oh shit.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Then so was he.
So I understand that it was aweekly thing or a daily thing
drinking, and I understand thathe consumed a lot, but was this
a thing where it was mostly theend result was him blacking out
at you know, just on the couch,on the bed or somewhere, or was

(49:40):
he just like a fully functionalalcoholic that just had rages?
My doubt was outrageous.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
functional for a fully functional alcoholic that
just had rages.
Sometimes my dad was outrageousfunctional for a moment.
Really.
Because, as he was teaching mehow to drive, he would tell me
hey, this next exit, you got toget off.
My driver was like three milesaway, where the fuck do you know
where I'm at?
You know like, how do you knowthat?
How?

Speaker 2 (49:58):
So his favorite pastime was drinking.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
He would be able to function, but he would just have
episodes of aggressiveness andrage.
Yeah well, he would black outsometimes.
You know it depends on whattime you started drinking, but I
just didn't know if it was likea daily thing.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Oh hey, it's nine o'clock, dad is passed out on
the couch.
Like I didn't know if it waslike, oh no, my dad's passed out
on ground like he's beenoutside he slept outside.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
Um, on the couch, on the floor, on the toilet, which
was his favorite spot, for somereason, like four or five times
he's fell asleep, drunk as hell,passed out on the toilet seat.
Um, my mom would have to gowake him up.
Like, hey, come to the bed, youknow.
Like, get out of there.
No, I want to stay here.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
All right, cool, that's on you seeing that
growing up and seeing theresults of alcoholism, did that
ever scare you that you mightbecome that, or do you think
that was a uh deterrent from youconsuming alcohol or anything

(51:03):
like that?

Speaker 1 (51:04):
I mean I know you drink I've seen you drink.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
But obviously you know what, now that I think
about it, I don't think I'veever seen you belligerent or
black out or anything, and I'msure you have in the past, but
like now that I think about it,I don't think I've ever seen you
like really intoxicated.
So going back to the.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
We need to change that.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Yeah, we do so, going back to the original question,
did that scare you at all,seeing your dad, you know,
especially at a younger age,like, oh my god, am I gonna be
that when I grow up?

Speaker 4 (51:36):
yeah, at a young age I did um.
Growing up I felt like you know, I'm not gonna be like you know
, let me not drink because itcould happen to me.
But as I got older I kind ofrealized it's more of a person,
not just you know your past oranything like that.
You know I can drink.
I can handle my liquor wellProbably not now because I'm

(51:58):
like I don't normally drink likethat just because, but no, at
the time when I was drinking.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Yeah, I can handle my liquor, but no, at the time
when I was drinking, yeah, I canhandle my liquor do you think
addiction is hereditary or doyou think that's just a personal
choice that gets maybeinfluenced by past or family
addictions?
I think it's just a choice youdon't think it's hereditary at
all?

Speaker 4 (52:21):
no, I don't really think so because as you see
other people doing it, you kindof think to yourself like I
don't really think so.
Because as you see the otherpeople doing it, you kind of
think to yourself like I don'tthink I want to do that.
But like I see my dad drinklike that often and every time I
run him I don't even want todrink because I don't want to
cause any problems, I just don'twant it.
That's what I always thoughttoo.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
But like some people claim that addiction is
hereditary, like oh, my mom didmeth, now I do meth.
It was hereditary.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
I mean, maybe if they were like a baby, like stuff
like that, like a crack baby,stuff like that, but yeah, like
a meth baby or a crack baby.
Yeah, yes.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
I could get.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
that I can get that just because their body doesn't,
it processes it.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
So they can't handle not really going out too long
with it.
I think it's more of just yourinfluence of the environment,
people.
People see that as a norm.
Oh, my dad drank all the time.
That must be normal yeah so I'mgonna do it type of situation
and I could see that.
Yeah, I, I agree.
I'm not saying that I thinkit's hereditary.
I'm just curious on what Idon't think it's hereditary.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
I was just curious on what you thought.
No, I don't think it's all thathereditary um drinking smoking
nah.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
I don't think so.
At the end of the day, it's apersonal choice.
It is, and if you can't controlit, then that's normal there
are these heartbreak habits andstuff like that.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
Uh, like me, I drink energy drinks all day oh, me too
.
I have a bad addiction to thatwork I drink two, and then um go
to the gym I drink another one.
It's like three, four.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
How much sleep are you getting on a on a daily
night?

Speaker 4 (53:54):
recently not much, because I'd go to bed at 11 12
and wake up at like four in themorning.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Go to work yeah, it's like four hours.
That's what I'm saying, like metoo.
Like I think a lot of peopledon't get eight hours of sleep.
I would love to get eight.
Oh, I would love to, but Ithink what?
And this is probably me justdefending my habit, but a lot of
people don't get that eighthours.
Like you said, you get aboutfour, I get maybe five six.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
I get four to four to six.
6.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
I'll get like usually 5 to 6, but I think doing that
for so long I just don't thinkyour body could fully function
on 5 hours of sleep.
So we use these energy drinksto help us.
You know what I can see energydrinks, even like the zero sugar

(54:47):
ones.
Because is this so sure?
No rebels god damn, I bought awhole pack of not.
Oh shit, that's not good.
I usually drink the zero sugar,zero sugar.
But I didn't even realize.
Oh, we're gonna be fucked today.
But no, I wouldn't be surprised.
Be surprised if energy drinks10 years from now are like

(55:08):
cigarettes and they're bad.
We kind of already know they'rebad for us.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
Oh yeah, got to get that fucking Red 40 in you, yeah
.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
But, if you could recall, cigarettes were the norm
, people smoked on airlines, ohyeah.
And it was just a thing.
Oh yeah, cigarettes are great,blah, blah.
And then, whatever, how manyyears later?
Uh, cigarettes give you cancerI'm like oh shit, 1-800-r-bad
yeah.
So who knows?
I mean five, ten years.

(55:39):
I wouldn't be surprised if theysaid, hey, energy drinks cause
fucking I don't know, thyroidcancer or stomach cancer or
whatever.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
You know, I'm saying from all the acid or whatever
yeah, I'm no fucking doctor so Idon't know the terms and shit.
So theanine and all that kindof stuff, I wouldn't be
surprised if they said that year, the surplus and b12s and b6s
and all that but you know what?

Speaker 2 (56:02):
just like cigarettes, we'll still sell them
completely america will stillsell them.
It's a profit.
It's fucked up, man.
Just like cigarettes, as longas they put a label on there
like cigarettes.
Oh hey, energy drinks.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
This could cause so so cancer and I think that's why
the dispensaries have beenopened up, because the
government's realizing, like youknow what, maybe if we can't
control this drug trade, wemight as well just be part of it
.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
That's a good like watch Fucking cocaine will be
legal in like 15 years.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
I mean veterinarians and shit like that give meth,
like meth-grade stuff, who knowswhat will be in the future.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
But all right.
So let's get off a little ofthe sad topic and kind of go
into something about what'sgoing on today.
Have you heard about or seenthe drones in New Jersey?
Not at all.
You haven't heard anythingabout that.
No, all right, cool, becauseI'm going to educate you.
So since Thanksgiving, there'sbeen a half dozen states up in

(57:02):
the Northeast, so New York,pennsylvania, maryland,
connecticut, rhode Island, newJersey and it all started in New
Jersey.
But there's been sightingssince Thanksgiving up to now,
been sightings sincethanksgiving up to now over 3

(57:23):
000 sightings of just thesedrones being flown around in the
sky, and it's mostly beenthrough like the the night, but
they're actually starting to seedrones being flown during the
day and nobody knows.
There's like there's been nopublic announcement from the
federal government or from stategovernments.
Nobody knows what these dronesare, and they said that they've.

(57:47):
Some of these drones are thesize of cars, yeah, like that's
how big they are and they'rejust, they're flying.
It's like the four propellerones and there's lights, like
triangular lights and squarelights, flying all through, and
it's happening among sixdifferent states.
So there's gotta be some kindof organization that's doing

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this because you you can't getlike four or five people and
like, hey, let's fly dronesacross six different states and
have that many different dronesblown around, but it's.
It's very weird because there'sbeen no official announcement on

(58:34):
what these drones are, like thefbi and the homeland security
have said that these dronesdon't pose a threat to the
public, like how do they knowthat they?
They can't even give you ananswer or where these drones
could be coming from, and so itdoesn't make any any sense.
And I think one announcementwas oh, people are mistaking

(58:59):
some of these drones for planesand helicopters.
I mean, okay, maybe some ofthem, but if there's been
officially over 3 000 sightingsof these lights and there's
videos everywhere of thesedrones, like you clearly can see
that it's the way it's movingwell, it's rotates yeah, then,

(59:21):
like you know, it's a drone, Imean, you can hear it, that's
yeah

Speaker 4 (59:24):
like you can hear that it's a drone I know there's
some drone shows, like withlights and stuff like that um,
they've been orchestrated before.
Um, but like the really bigones I know farming has that
they they have, like the bigfour propeller ones that are
like, they mount it on top oftheir cars like pickup trucks
but these are happening overlike urban cities.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
It's like no one's giving any answers to any of
this.
So I mean, I'm sure I low-keyI'd be a little scared if I
looked out my window and I sawdrones flying every couple days.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
I would be a little worried, yeah because the
majority of your drones all havea camera, Even the cheap Teemu
ones you can get one with acamera and like DGI I think,
makes a pretty good one, and Ithink you drive for 30 minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
charge it for four hours yeah and you fly around
for 30 minutes and it's clear 4kthere's a quote I took and I
can't give credit to I.
I didn't get that portion of it, but and I'll paraphrase it
they're saying that theseelusive maneuvering uh suggests
that this could be majormilitary powers.

(01:00:42):
That begs the question whetherthey have been deployed to test
our defense capabilities or,worse, it could be like a
dictatorship, perhaps likeRussia, china, iran, north Korea
.
Like we don't know, like youdon't know what kind of group,

(01:01:03):
like it can't be a single person, it's got to be some kind of
group that's doing this to coverall this area across six
different states.
And they're saying that theseaircrafts they're not military.
So it's like, well, what theshit?
If they're not military gradedrones, then what the fuck are

(01:01:29):
they?
Why are they flying around?
Why is there so many of them?
And I know I think it waseither abc news or cbs news like
during the day the cameramanactually got a shot in the sky
of this and it looked like likea orb, like a colorful orb, just

(01:01:50):
kind of sitting up in the sky.
And like I'm looking at it, I'mlike, well, that doesn't look
like a drone, but it's weird manand it's a ufo I'm surprised
you haven't heard any of this menot like what's on your fyp.
You know your fyp page.
No, you don't want to see that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
Nothing but stupid shit.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Honestly, nothing but comedy do you not get it?
Where do you get your news from?

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Do you not get news from anywhere?
I get it from you, from you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
From me oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Like you, don't have an ex-account for any news or
anything?
No, not really.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
Not really.
I try to stay away frompolitics.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
What's that got to do with politics?
Just to know what's going on inthe world, I mean, yeah, but
you don't really care.
That's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
I mean I kind of I do but I kind of don't, because I
mean like that could be used forsurveillance and stuff like
that.
But for me, you know, itdoesn't bother me too much
because I mean, a lot of peoplethere probably are scared of it,
of the drones, becauseespecially now, like all right,
you can, you can shoot them down, but at the same time we said

(01:03:00):
they're doing that it's likepolice are coming to your house,
what the fuck you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
and that's what people are saying, like, hey, if
you can't tell us and this islike the public talking to the
government if you can't tell uswhat these drones are, then it
should be shot down.
But then you get into thesituation where, if you shoot
down a drone and if it's likeany type of military or anything
I privately own, oh, yes, Iguess it's like a federal crime

(01:03:27):
to shoot down a government.
I guess technically it'll be anaircraft, right?

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
yeah, it'd be a aircraft.
Um, but shooting their stuffthey're down.
Yeah, because technically it'sthe tax dollars stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Low key.
But it would be a felony,because then you're intruding
with the government.
Yeah, I would like if it washappening like consistently,
like if I lived in a major citywhere it was consistently
happening, I think I would wantto go get a drone myself and
then the next time I saw onefucking fly that shit right up
there and see what I could get,have a drone myself.
And then the next time I sawone fucking fly that shit right
up there and see what I can getbattle up there.

(01:03:59):
Yeah, I know, man putlightsabers on my shit and take
them down myself, but that'swhat I would want to now.
If it was something where I sawone time and you haven't heard
anything for like weeks, thenthat that's one thing, but I'm
pretty yeah, because that couldbe some kid just like a drone,
but I'm pretty sure yeah, causethat could be some kid just
flying a drone around, but I'mpretty sure these sightings are
happening more frequently and itall started since Thanksgiving,

(01:04:23):
which is very weird in my eyes.
But I think, I think, yeah, Iwould want to go get my own and
just fly that up there and maybeeven follow one yeah, get your
whole anti-air sir but at thesame time to do that you would
need to get a pretty expensiveone, because I know, I know
those drones have a certainrange that you could go and

(01:04:45):
obviously you'll probably haveto spend thousands of dollars
yeah, I mean miles and miles.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
The thing is, though, um, because I was trying to get
my own dj maverick one, andthose are like four or five
hundred bucks but how far dothey go?
They go?

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
I think about a mile okay so what I'm saying you
would need something that Icould go like ten miles.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
I have friends that build them and they're like I
can build you a better qualityone, a faster one, a longer
range and a better battery likeflight time.
I was like for a lot cheaper,for like half the price.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
I think we need to question your friends now.
Maybe, maybe maybe they aresome white boys, so you know
they're on the government sideon that part yeah, but I think,
well, if you didn't have friendsthat knew how to do that, you
probably would have to spend agood, yeah, good thousand to two
thousand, a couple thousandjust because, I mean even the
basic ones are 500 bucks andthat's just used for, like.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
A lot of realtors use them for showing the houses off
, stuff like that.
But more cinematic stuff that'sweird.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
I I'm hoping it's nothing serious and like today's
age, like I could see it beingoh hey, it's a.
It's a big hoax or a big prank.
Like there's two dozen, there'sa group of two dozen people
that are just flying dronesaround trying to freak people
out, like I wouldn't besurprised if that's the case I

(01:06:11):
can see that, but you got like a50 50 chance because oh yeah,
if.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
If they're telling the government what is this and
they're not responding, it'slike all right, there's 50
chance you're doing it onpurpose oh, yeah, not saying
anything and just trying toprolong the process, or it could
be a bunch of people prankingaround because the only way,
because a civilian can't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Well, like you said so, farmers have access to those
big ass drones yeah, they buildbig drones.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
They strap them up on top of the car because it's so
heavy, so they fly around theirfields like the regular citizen
couldn't get access to that?
No, because any, I forgot theexact height but, at certain
heights.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
You gotta have a permit for it you're right, once
you go to a certain height, yougotta get a permit for it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
And then, once you go to a certain height, you gotta
get a permit.
And now you're registered withthat drone and you're like it's
like a firearm in a sense,because now you have a weapon in
a sense, so now you need alicense for it.
So if they do catch your drone,then yeah, they'll come after
you that makes sense but again,like the farming ones, they only

(01:07:17):
want them in fields becausethey're so big oh yeah, like I
saw a video like it looked likea damn near airplane.
Yeah big that the drone was ohyeah because it looks like an
airplane a little bit, but it'sgot the four propellers yeah,
because the four propeller onesthat they'll uh, they'll
sometimes have like somepesticides and stuff like that
on them and they'll like dropoff, we'll spray some of those
pesticides sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Hmm that's right.
I'm surprised.
Like I said, I'm surprised youhaven't heard that.
Anything like.
Anything like that.
It's been all over my TikTok.
It's on the news.
I see it on Twitter or funnyenough my For you page.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
I got a bunch of Mexico stuff like news in Mexico
.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Do you really yeah?
You keep track of shit that'sgoing on in Mexico, but you
don't know what's going on, yeahbecause literally, I think like
two hours ago, I seen that theyhad a parade.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
So in Mexico, a lot of the Catholic stuff.
December 12th was the day ofthe Virgen Guadalupe.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
So the.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
Virgin Mary and so the Virgin Mary, and they have
parades, and I see them inMichoacan.
They had a pickup truck do likea parade.
Well, the person driving goesintoxicated and ran over 18
people Killed, three injured 15.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Holy shit.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
Yeah, so I get information from a lot of news
from Mexico and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Shit that doesn't even affect you.

Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
Yeah, shit does not affect me at all, just whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Did you hear that TikTok is currently scheduled to
be banned?

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
Didn't they say that years ago?

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Well, currently they had plans for another appeal as
of January 19th.

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
Wasn't it Vine and then it jumped to.
Tiktok.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Yeah, because Vine got shut down, right, but I
thought TikTok took over.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
I thought TikTok was the creators of Vine.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
No, no, no, no, I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
I could be wrong, mm-hmm, but I but I just thought
it was so coincidental thatit's like, oh, you can do seven
second videos, but now you cando full videos so I feel like
maybe they were the same peoplethe decision was like made for
TikTok to be banned, yeah butthey're, of course they're

(01:09:30):
trying to appeal it yeah, causeit gets.
We get into that freedom ofspeech.
But you know what's going tohappen?

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
TikTok gets banned.
Something else is going to justjump in its place.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
Yeah, Elon Musk is going to buy them, Right?

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
something stupid like that, Dude, like Twitter, will
be the next TikTok.
Yeah, the next TikTok when youcould do tweets but there's a
section for videos.
Yeah, Dude, that's what's goingto happen.
And it's dude like Vine and nowTikTok, now that you have
advertisement and then you havethe TikTok shop, like it's too

(01:10:03):
lucrative for someone not to tryto start up another like short
video platform.

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
Yeah, because it's like a Facebook at this point.
Facebook and like.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Instagram are now.
Now it's a real making moneykind of thing.
So, like it's, I don't thinkit's ever gonna go away.
It'll just be under a new nameyeah, probably the same people,
just different name but and Iremember, like when it first
started, about tiktok beingbanned and I'm not fully
informed on the actual details,but I know some of the people's

(01:10:39):
concerns were like the, thecontent that was able to come
through on TikTok.
Like there was content thatwere supposedly or allegedly
driving people to commit suicideor like not driving them, but

(01:10:59):
they're like you could look upcontent and and like I can't
because I don't want to say thewrong thing, but basically
content about suicide or killingor like like sexual assault or
anything like that.
Like that it was accessible topeople who really was like

(01:11:23):
searching it yeah and I and alot of they would bring that
stuff up about oh how differentaccess was accessible in china
compared to what could beaccessed in the US, and I think
that was a big topic too and tothe point where the Supreme

(01:11:43):
Court judged it to be banned.
And then, of course, you gottago through the whole appeal
process.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
But that's with anything man, the internet could
be a fucked up place yeah, Imean even on facebook, um, not
instagram, because I don't havelike crazy stuff like that.
But I know facebook you canstill find and twitter you can
find still on, like, um, thevideos that a lot of cartels
have where they like oh yeah,people live, I've seen them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
It's crazy video.
It's crazy, it's crazy, it'scrazy, it's crazy, it's crazy,
it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
I've seen some that are.
They're disturbing but likegrotesque at the same time.
You know where, like peopleeating live organs and like
cutting straight out of them.
Um, but I mean TikTok now haslike certain pages that are uh,
type in this type of search andyou'll find a naked girl or

(01:12:41):
stuff like that.
So I mean there's always goingto be around it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
You're right, even banning TikTok?

Speaker 4 (01:12:49):
I don't think so, just because, like you said, the
marketplace.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
But at the end of the day too, it's up to us as
parents to kind of comb overwhat they're watching anyways.
I mean, it's not it's not thefull responsibility of a entity
or a company to kind of filterwhat a specific person should be

(01:13:14):
watching.
It's you gotta watch what yourkids are.
You gotta go over what yourkids watch sometimes, because
there could be just like like um, I can't think of the damn word
but like slight messages withinthe video that kids could pick
up on, and it's not so obviousyeah but you watch enough of it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
And I mean, we've all seen crazy tv shows and movies
where a person creates a videoand it like brainwashes oh yeah,
even now, like, even likespongebob, to me is, as a kid, a
lot of hidden messages,subliminal messages, just right
over my head and now, when Iwatch over as a kid, I'm like
whoa, they're wild for that,like the.

(01:13:59):
The woman who wears spongebobtells gary uh, the to balloons
the soap, don't drop these garyand I'm like what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
no, you're right, but nickelodeon did allow that yeah
like those, like you watch itand you're like didn't think
nothing of it at the time, butyou watch it as an adult.
It's like whoa man, You'retailing the line pretty damn
close.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
Oh yeah, Some of it.
Yeah, it does get like that,Like especially some cartoons.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
But I think they do that to maybe grab some of the
older kids too.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
Yeah, so it's not just like a completely kiddie
show.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Hey, because the more views you can get, the more
money you're going to make.

Speaker 4 (01:14:50):
I mean, yeah, but if you want more adult content,
there's always Rick and MortyBob's Burgers Invincible.
I love those ones.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
I don't know if you've seen that.
I've seen that, yeah that's.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
I watch that now and I don't.
My kids want to watch it too,but they always see like the
little superhero parts wherethere's no blood or gore and
they're like I want to watch it.
I'm like, no, you can't watchthis, this is for adults
speaking of anime, are you?

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
do you know ultraman?
No, you know the series.
Have you seen the movie onnetflix, ultraman rising?
No, I haven't seen that Iwatched that movie yesterday
with the kids and long storyshort I won't is it?
Good, it's dude, it's so good Iwas so invested into it.
It's a fucking cartoon and I'llgive you the basis of it.

(01:15:36):
It's literally just a superherowho could, like, go really big
because the the enemies in theshow in the movie are kaijus,
you know, like big monsters,yeah, so this guy has ability to
go up into that size and battlekaiju monsters yeah, make
plenty of level yeah, but thewhole twist about it is that

(01:16:02):
this person, because he takesover for his father, his father
got hurt, he's old now, so hetakes over yeah, he's a young
kid, doesn't really want to doit, his heart's not into it, but
he's doing it.
And he is stuck with this babykaiju and no one's ever seen one

(01:16:25):
or weren't even like known thatthere could be a baby kaiju, so
he's literally kaijus, bro he'sraising the, this little baby
monster, and then obviously he,the more he raises it, the more
he comes attached and there's awhole big storyline.
But I'm telling my son I'm likedude, like throughout this

(01:16:46):
whole movie I went through likefive different emotions.
I was like happy, sad, I was atmy, I had anxiety, I was
nervous.
So, like it, it's a good movie.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
We were walking in there like, oh, you're a good
parent, that's a good parentright there, that's fatherly
bond right there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
I was connecting with this little ugly, baby kaiju.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
Yeah, hopefully your dad doesn't leave you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Because they made the baby so freaking cute and it
was just like it wasging on mylike father's heartstring and no
, but like, all kidding aside,the storyline was really good,
the action scenes were good,like everything came in really
well.
And then he was telling me thatthere's a anime series for

(01:17:36):
Ultraman as well, and I guessit's like three seasons.
I'm like oh shit, I'm watchingthat tomorrow, like that's,
that's how I was, that's howmuch I was hooked really.
I'm serious man like you shouldwatch the movie and to kind of
get a feel for it and I'm gonnawatch the series on it, but it
was a really good movie Likeit's a and it's a good movie for

(01:18:00):
adults and kids Like it.
It kept you in it and it was.
It was really good.
I would definitely recommend.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
Like young kids would like it too, or no?
Yeah, you think my actuallittle kids would like it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Yes, I think so.
Like Alonzo was watching it,Lorenzo watched it Like.
Alonzo was watching it, lorenzowatched it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
I mean, we were all like we were into it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
Yeah we were all into it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
It's a really cool movie.
It's got like baseball becausehe's on a.
When he's not Ultraman, he's aprofessional baseball player.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
So it's got all this type of stuff in it.
So what if a kaiju happens,like in the middle of the game?

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
There's a scene that Nice happens like in the middle
of the game there's a scene that, and nice, dude, I'm telling
you that I can be a directorit's really cool man okay, and
then?

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
speaking of anime, you watch a lot of anime, don't
you?
Yeah or did you kind of falloff on that?

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
no, I watch a lot um, I don't have a lot of time like
my brother does.
My brother has like a lot of,that's all he watches.
He doesn't watch like noreality TV or anything like that
, he just just all animeCompletely.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
He's got that Crunchyroll app.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
No, he watches.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
What does he watch it off of?

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
He watches off of the .
It's like a streaming one.
Oh really.
They stream it and it's likechapters, episodes, everything.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
It's really nice.
The Quencher is the only onethat I know where you could
subscribe and you'll have accessto all the no, the one he has
is a free one.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
It's like anime for TV or 4V or something like that,
and it's.

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
It updates and gives you the newer ones like a
regular TV subscription, but italso has the Japanese animes
that you don't know about.
But they're there for you, butI'd watch it and have a child
like that.
For me it was like that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Like I said, I'm like you.
I enjoy watching anime, but Idon't I probably can't even give
you a list of like ten shows,so is there, like what are a
couple of the shows that youjust really enjoy watching?

Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
I watch a lot of the bigger ones just because I feel
like they'll be able to producemore content, because I Like One
Piece.
That's a really really longfucking anime, bleach is another
one, or you know typical stufflike that.
I like watching a lot of those.
Have you watched Dan Dan Dan?
Lorenzo watches it killeropening scene really the best,

(01:20:31):
the best opening scene to me.
I haven't seen it yet.
Everybody finds it annoying.
It's a really good anime.
I'm watching it.
I'm like what are you watching?

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
he's like the Dan-da-dan.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
Yeah, dan-da-dan, did you fucking stutter, over there
?

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
No, he's like look.

Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
Oh, the Dan-da-dan.
Yeah, it's a really good anime.
Watch that one.
Have you watched One Punch man?

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
That's another one.
There's so many that I want toget into, but, like you said,
some of these anime series havelike fucking 50 shows.

Speaker 4 (01:21:01):
Yeah, I know One Punch man.
I think that's like two seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Oh, really.
So it's really short, it's ashort one.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
You can watch that one.

Speaker 4 (01:21:07):
I think Netflix or Hulu has it.
One of the two have it, butit's really short.
You can watch that.
It's a superhero one yeah um,but it's like a.
It's an undercover uh superherobut he so he's like the
strongest superhero out of allof them, but he tries to keep it
really low key so there's othersuperheroes in the world?

(01:21:29):
yeah it's like a city and theyall have like um grading levels
like class A, class B, and youknow certain heroes stay in
their villain categories and youcan process up, level up.
Pretty much no no shit yeah so,like, the more fame you get um,
the bigger villains you takedown.

(01:21:50):
You kind of go up um, but he isstronger, but he is stronger
than all the superheroes, yeahbut he just doesn't want to be
known.
No, no, he doesn't.
He's really really nonchalant,like on one of the episodes he
was fighting this really strongenemy and he got upset because

(01:22:13):
he forgot that on a certain daythey have a sale on ramen.
Really, and he got reallypissed off.
He's like you, made me miss mysale, so he literally one punch
that's the name of the dude maincharacter, and he punched him
in one punch and just explodedhim completely and he was upset

(01:22:34):
like my ramen sale, completelypissed off.
And he was upset like my ramensale, completely pissed off.
And there's superheroes tryingto fight this thing that are
like struggling.
And he just comes by one punchand just says Move out of my way
.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
Oh really, yeah, that sounds interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
It's pretty cool, it's pretty cool.
What about what's?

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
bleach.
Is it bleach, bleach, what'sthat?

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
about Damn.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Bleach.

Speaker 4 (01:22:59):
Oh, so you haven't have you watched it, I do, I do,
I have it's not one of the onesthat I like like is it like a
complicated series?

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
what's up?
Is it like a complicated series?

Speaker 4 (01:23:11):
it's a little bit complicated because, um with,
like Bleach you, they have thisthing called.
What is that called hockey?
I think it's hockey or somethinglike that they have like this
leveling, like their powers andstuff like that.
They're like swords, likesummarizing sense, and they have
, um, like stages of their sword, bankai.

(01:23:34):
That's what's called.
It's called A Bankai and whenyou release your Bankai, in a
sense you get a power-up on yoursword.
Certain swords have differentabilities and stuff like that,
but that one's okay.
That one's okay.
It's technically about fightingenemies in an organization, but
I mean, obviously it's corruptand they kind of fight each

(01:23:56):
other and shit like that.
So what's another one that youreally enjoy, like an
organization, yeah, but I meanobviously it's corrupt and they
kind of fight each other andshit like that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
So what's another one that you really enjoy watching,
then?

Speaker 4 (01:24:01):
I haven't really really watched it.
I want to get into it BlackClover.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
That was a really good one.
Black Clover, black Clover, andwhat's that about?

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
That one's like about magic, about spells and stuff
like that, but the maincharacter doesn't do magic and
so he fights all these strongwizards and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
But he doesn't have magic, but he doesn't have magic
?

Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
No, he fights melee-wise and later he finds
out he does have magic, but it'slike a forbidden magic.
That only he Like a dark magicIn a sense.
Yeah, Seven Deadly Sins.
Have you seen that one?

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Is that, yeah, um Seven Deadly Sins.
Have you seen that one is thatI don't.
I've heard of it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
I don't think I that one is on Netflix.
Is that the?

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
one where it's like a creature and there's like a um,
almost, where he makes wishesor he does.

Speaker 4 (01:24:54):
There's like a book, no that one is with the Seven,
seven Deadly Sins, so like um,or he does there's like a book.
No, that one is with the seven,seven deadly sins, so like um
lion, sin of pride and stufflike that um, and that one's
about demons and angels fightingokay then yeah, and so it's
seven characters, um, likegluttony, I think, is one of
them, and stuff like that, andthey have the demon versions and
shit like that and they, theyfight each other.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Is that another short ?
Is that another short series?

Speaker 4 (01:25:17):
It's a little bit short.
It's not long long.
I think it's like four or fiveseasons.
Okay.
And then it branches off intothe Four Horsemen of the
Apocalypse.
Oh shit so it breaks off intothat because they have King
Arthur and in that show he'slike a little kid.
And then they break off intothe actual separate one.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
That's interesting too.

Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
Yeah, that one's actually pretty fun.
It's a lot of fighting.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
So you've watched it already.
Yeah, that one, yeah, okay,yeah, you recommend that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
That one.
Yeah, if you like action andstuff like that, it is, it does
have some witty moments of themain character, meliodas.
Like the demon king, he meetsone of the girls.
It's an angel, she's a fallenangel in a sense, and he touches
her and stuff like that.
So it's very hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
Okay, so which one would you recommend I watch?
First, one Punch man or SevenDeadly Sins.

Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
I would recommend.
It kind of depends on whetheryou want a long one or a short
one.
I mean, just start one.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Because if I start one, I'm not going to watch
another one until I finish thatseries.

Speaker 4 (01:26:24):
Okay, so punch one, punch Just get out of the way.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Just get out of the way.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:28):
Okay, it's pretty funny.
It's got those little stalemoments and you can see in the
animation of the characters.
The drawing styles go fromstraight lines and dots to show
an emotion like stale face andthen it goes into the
seriousness and it's like fulldetail face.
I like that it jumps back andforth, didn't?

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
Dragon Ball Z do that too no.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
Dragon Ball Z never did that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
But there was another really popular show but I know
what you're saying where itwould be like little dot for
eyes and then their faceexpression.

Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
Yeah, it's just for like a scene or a section like
one or two clips, that one, andthen I would jump into the Seven
Deadly Sins.
And another big one I want towatch is the Demon Slayer.
See, but I heard that's a longthat's a long one that's a super
long one no, I'm not evensaying that's a long one are you
sure?

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
I thought it had like all these seasons and it had as
movies seasons, stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:29):
Yeah, it's the same thing with my Hero Academia have
you seen that?

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
no, I haven't seen that, that's another superhero,
one with like quarks.

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
So it's like their superpowers, Everybody inherits
them and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
I've heard Demons Later is really good, but that's
just like another.
Like you said earlier, that'slike another big big name, big
title.
That's a big name one yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
Same thing with my Heroic Demi.
They're pretty big.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
They have a movie.

Speaker 4 (01:28:00):
They're marketed, pretty heavily marketed.
Yeah, yeah, um, they do havesports ones.
I watched kirk was.
Yeah, I watched kirk wasbasketball so that's about a
basketball one, I don't knowthey did, and then I watched I
forgot the name of it, but it'son netflix a volleyball one no
shit and then my brother watchesblue lock things called blue
lock or something like that.
It's about sport.
It's about soccer oh, that'scool.
And there's other ones aboutbaseball too.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
I'm sure there's like hundreds and hundreds of
different shows to watch, but Ithink the only big anime that I
got into was Dragon Ball Z, andthat's another huge marketed
anime.
Yeah, it's up there withPokemon and shit.

Speaker 4 (01:28:38):
Yeah, pokemon.
Yeah, it's up huge marketedanime.
Yeah, it's up there withPokemon and shit yeah, Pokemon.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Yeah, it's up there with that.
And then they just made a newDragon Ball.
What is it called?
Something with an S?
Do you know what I'm talkingabout?

Speaker 4 (01:28:50):
Yeah, I know, they just put that on, was it Netflix
?

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
Well, I know it went on Crunchyroll.

Speaker 4 (01:28:59):
Maybe Hulu.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
One of the two, netflix or Hulu, has it.
Oh, what is it?
I don't oh Dragon Ball.

Speaker 4 (01:29:05):
Daima, daima, yeah, yeah, that one's brand new.
I'm gonna wait for that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Yeah, I didn't really go into it, but from what I
briefly heard is that all thecharacters get turned into kids
and then they just go on thesemissions as kids.
Like somebody, some kind ofevil force or villain turns
everybody into a kid, and sothey.

Speaker 4 (01:29:26):
They pretty much go on adventures yeah, I'm gonna
wait for that yeah yeah I meanit's kind of like, so like for
me like the dragon boss superyeah when they did like the
battle, whatever the what's itcalled then.
Oh, was that better?
Was that royal battle that theyhad on dragon ball super?

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
I haven't seen super.
There's so many, there's somany movies the one where he
goes ultra into no you haven'tseen that.

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
You should watch that I'm so behind.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
I, like last year, like last year I started I was
going like you know what, I'mgoing to re-watch all of Dragon
Ball and I'm going to get caughtup.
I think the farthest I got wasDragon Ball, where him and
Vegeta go on with was it Beerus?
And they go back to his planet,they start training, and then

(01:30:17):
Buris and his other universe guy, Whis, yeah but no.
But it's like the other, thecounterpart to Buris, who
oversees the other part of theuniverse.

Speaker 4 (01:30:29):
Oh, the Destroyer, they start that tournament.
Yeah, that you should watchthat.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
That's where I got up to, but I haven't got to the
battle yet.

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
Get the battle, watch the battle.
The battle part is oh, no shit.
That's why I say I want to waitfor the Daima part.
Okay, because if you'rewatching this week per week,
you're kind of like it's so muchanticipation that you're like,
oh yeah, oh, left me on acliffhanger, fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
I remember back in the day when I was a kid
watching it and you're like youwould watch a whole episode of
dragon ball z for like not abattle to happen, you're like ah
fuck, next time on dragon ball,z god damn it they've been
talking for three episodes andno one's falling, that one's the
one's gonna punch yeah, likegod damn it.
That's the only thing thatpissed me off about dragon ball

(01:31:15):
z back in the day, but now thatit's available to stream, you
could watch it whenever yeah,that's why I like to like wait a
little bit longer yeah

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
except like um, like to me, danadan, I like watching
it weekly.
I'll let like a couple weeks goby, but I like it because it's
one single um, demon entity kindof thing they're fighting.
So it could probably expand forlike a couple episodes, but
then they change it to adifferent one.
So you're not like Dragon Ball,it's a whole entire storyline

(01:31:49):
to it and they have like ashorter storyline.
They have like a main plot toit, but you get entertained
throughout the day instead ofjust three episodes of dialogue
or trying to set up the stagefor something.
No, but then they're normallyjust fighting constantly see, I

(01:32:11):
would.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
I would love to just binge watch all that type of
shit.
But I mean, you know as well asI do with kids work and now
that I got this podcast, likenow, that's just another thing
to keep me busy for the wholeday and I don't have time.
I just don't have time to watchthese shows.

(01:32:32):
And like I try to watch, I havelittle shows here and there on
Netflix and Hulu.
I try to watch, but man, ittakes me probably several months
to just get through fourseasons of a certain show, just
because I don't have time towatch it.
That sucks, because I rememberback in the day you had all the

(01:32:58):
time to play video games andwatch shows and I miss that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:59):
I see that with my brother because my brother is
caught up on six different animeshows.
He plays video games with hisfriends.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
That's the life man.
You have to live in the momentall the time, because time's a
bitch, time flies.

Speaker 4 (01:33:16):
And you know I'm learning that.
I'm learning that.
I'm learning that now because Idedicated a lot of my time to
my family and stuff like thatand it didn't work out as I
wanted it to.
So now I'm in this trance ofall right, since I would let my
family part one prosper.
I left that on friends andgoing out and these

(01:33:39):
opportunities and stuff likethat, and now it's living the
moment like me to go out, Iwould love to go out to a bar
and stuff like that, and I justcan't enjoy it.
Or even if I make plans withsomebody, it just usually
doesn't go through.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
No, I get it.
Yeah, because everything,everything is so hectic all the
time, especially when you havekids.
Obviously, if you don't havekids, then you don't have that
extra responsibility.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
Oh yeah, even if you're just trying to buy stuff
Like your own little personaltoys.
Yeah, you know, I want myCarver.
I want Carvers.
I want fast gold prices.
I know it sucks, man, but Iwant to car parts.
I want car parts, I want fastgold prices.
I know it sucks, man, but Iwant to go into the gun Stuff
like that, can't do it.
Yeah, because it's like $500,$600 to spend on a gun or some
car parts.
It's like that's my kid's foodfor the week.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
Yeah, or it's a bill that needs to be paid.

Speaker 4 (01:34:33):
Oh yeah, kids need a.
Oh yeah, kids need uniform.
Oh, they're going on a trip,you know.

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
Yeah, man, I think definitely learn that now.
It's good that you're seeingthat now, live in the moment,
because and it's kind of weirdbecause my mother used to always
tell me like hey, you bettercherish these moments now when
you're young.

Speaker 4 (01:34:53):
My mom said that to me every time when I'm a little
kid.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
But you think like oh well, like you don't listen to
that shit, you don't payattention to that until it's
gone and you got your own kidsand you're tired all the time
and you're and it's crazy allthis stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:35:08):
It's crazy because, like, when you say that you want
to tell your own kids, likelook, take advantage of this
time, and you're like you're,you're fucking to yourself, like
take advantage of this time,like I'm telling you what I'm
telling you, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
And then you look back and you're like my, my
parents had the same shit and Ifucked it up too yeah and yeah,
because you're like oh damn, mymother or father really stressed
this and I didn't listen.
So now, because I know theimportance of it, I'm gonna
stress it to my kids, but whoknows if they're going to listen
.
But since we're getting closeto Christmas, it's right around

(01:35:45):
the corner, dude.

Speaker 4 (01:35:46):
Yeah, we got like fucking two weeks.
Dude, it's like 11 days.
I think we got yeah, fuckingless than two weeks.
Yeah, less than two weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
Do you know who Krampus is?

Speaker 4 (01:35:57):
Yeah, it's like the Grinch.
Do you know the?
Do you know who Krampus is?
Yeah, that he.
It's like the Grinch, do you?
I've seen the movie.
It's not like the Grinch.
I've seen the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
But do you know the story behind Krampus?

Speaker 4 (01:36:07):
In a sense it's like an evil Santa Claus right.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
Well, he's, essentially he's like a, a
counterpart to.

Speaker 4 (01:36:14):
Of Santa Claus, saint Nicholas the counterpart to
saint nicholas.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Yeah, he takes instead of gifts where, yeah,
whereas santa claus rewards goodchildren with gifts, krampus
punished children.
Yeah, but it's kind of fuckedup how he.
He would punish them likethere's like in fables and shit.
Krampus would like beat themwith birch branches and then, I
guess, stuffing them into a sackand taking them back to his

(01:36:41):
lair and then also liketorturing and eating them.
Like there's a dark, it's adark history behind krampus, and
I guess the origins are inpre-christian alpine traditions
and pagan celebrations of thewinter solstice.

Speaker 4 (01:37:01):
I think that that was just a person, like a genuine
person doing that back in theday and they just made it into
this story.
Yeah, into a story.
It was a real person abductingkids and treating them like that
.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
It's a German word that comes from kramping, which
means claw, so they made thisbecause apparently the the
original krampus, he's like ahalf goat head, half demon like
a, like the devil, in the senseyeah, basically.
And then I guess there'scountries out there like austria

(01:37:36):
, germ, hungary and the CzechRepublic.
They celebrate the Krampus Likethey legit have parades.
I think I forget what it was.
I think it's on December 5thand they have a celebration
celebrating this creature and Iguess it's called I'm'm gonna

(01:37:58):
screw these up because these areforeign ass words but I guess
there's a parade where peopledress up as krampus to scare
spectators almost like a day ofthe dead halloween, where people
will.
I mean, I know, there's twodifferent meanings but, it's the
same thing where parade dressup, but like it's made to scare

(01:38:19):
other spectators and I guessit's called krampus sleuth and
then there's holiday cardsfeaturing krampus, like there's
countries out there thatfull-blown believe in it like
believe in this shit.

Speaker 4 (01:38:33):
Yeah, because there's a lot of uh places in mexico
they believe in, like the.
It's called Santa Muerte andthey dress up as a devil, like
full on like devil suits likelike, not just your typical
costume like homemade stuff thatlooks like, you know, like
Comic Con is where they dress upcompletely like the characters
and stuff like that and they putit together.

(01:38:53):
That's how they do it and theycelebrate um like the devil, in
a sense that they dance and putmusic and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
Why are they celebrating the devil like what?

Speaker 4 (01:39:03):
that to them it's like a religion.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
To them it's like a religion so so, but are we
talking about like satanist?
Yeah, okay so like satanist.
That's the origin behind it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:13):
They're celebrating the devil, right, but then some
people, um, like one is called,uh, listen to, which is the
mother of death in a sense.
You know it's, it's in biblicaland stuff, but, um, some people
take it out of the biblecontext and they look at it as

(01:39:33):
um, like a saint that gives youum when you pray to, and they
for like good luck and fortunesand stuff like that okay, yeah,
because it's.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
I'm looking over this right now and it's kind of like
that.
Where they, in austriaspecifically, they have an
annual krampus parade where,like I said, young men in town
dress up as the creature andparade through the streets and
it's like a pagan ritual meantto disperse winter ghosts.
So I guess to them it's toscare off winter ghosts.

(01:40:07):
They march dressed in fursuitsand carved wooden masks and they
carry cowbells.
I guess the tradition is havinga resurgence through austria,
germany, like those countriesthat I said.
So it's like it's still a bigthing and like it's even gaining
some recognition in in theunited states, like you said.
I think there's like at leasttwo or three krampus movies out

(01:40:32):
yeah made, maybe in the last 10years, uh, regarding that
creature.
And the thing is that krampus'sroots has nothing to do with
christmas.
Instead, it dates back topre-germanic paganism in the
region and I guess his name,like I said it, comes from
german krampman krampin, whichmeans claw, and the tradition

(01:40:56):
that it has is that the son ofthe norse god of the underworld
hell.
So I don't know if you knowanything about norse mythology,
but you know how norse mythologyand greek mythology are kind of
similar.
Well, I guess, like the like thedevil and, uh, hades hell is
that god in norse mythology, andI guess krampus is supposed to

(01:41:21):
be the sun yeah, yeah, prettymuch but I guess during the 12th
century of course the catholicchurch had to get involved and
they attempted to banish krampuscelebrations because of his
resemblance to the devil so letlet there you go.
The Catholic Church has tocontrol shit because it goes
against their belief.

(01:41:42):
It says more eradicationattempts followed in 1934 at the
hands of Austria's conservativeChristian Social Party, but
none of it held, and Krampusemerged as a much feared and
beloved holiday force.

Speaker 4 (01:41:59):
I never asked you.
You're not very religious, areyou?

Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
nope, and I've had this conversation with other
people my, my stance on religionis that it's not right, not
wrong.
It's very hard to believe thatthere is one God and he's been
doing this all by himself andall that, like I.

(01:42:24):
I think there's.
There's a lot more to justbelieving in one religion and
that and not being open-mindedto anything else.
So that's that's where I stand.
On that.
I heard on the radio thatsomebody's developing is it
smell-a-vision or liketaste-a-vision?
So if you're watching a cookingshow on TV, you'll have a

(01:42:49):
device that will link with thatTV show and you'll be able to
lick something.
I don't know it'll be acontroller or whatever, but
you'll be able to lick it andtaste what they're making on TV.

Speaker 4 (01:43:01):
I'm telling you, next 10, 10 years, don't let the
porn industry get into that.
That's what.
That's what they were saying.
Don't let the porn industrytouch that, because long
distance relationships?

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
yeah, would be awesome oh yeah, like oh baby, I
mean they have, get your, getyour remote out, down on you,
pull the fucking pussy out butI'm serious, man, like shit,
like that's gonna happen, likeremember it used to be a joke.
Oh, smell a vision yeah well,I'm sure, just like how they're
trying to make stuff where youcould taste on tv, I'm sure

(01:43:33):
they'll make it to where youcould smell stuff and touch
stuff.
But that's like how you saidlike if somebody is able to
perfect all the senses smell,touch, uh, taste, feel like all
that dude, let the porn industryget a hold of that oh yeah and

(01:43:53):
dude ain't nobody gonna be goingout there dating.
Because now they could, theycould pop on their vr, hook up
whatever machinery they theycould, and then they could just.

Speaker 4 (01:44:04):
Which is crazy, because that could drop the HIV.
That too, I didn't even thinkabout that.
You're right.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
But can you imagine porn will go from a
multi-billion dollar industry toa multi-trillion dollar
industry.

Speaker 4 (01:44:20):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
If people are able to have sex but not really have
sex.

Speaker 4 (01:44:25):
And not have nothing attached to it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
Right, that would be crazy.
It's going to come.

Speaker 4 (01:44:31):
You know that's going to come.
A lot of introverts would lovethat.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
Yeah, and it's going to happen, because at that point
you're like well, if I got thismachine and I could feel, hear,
taste everything that I can,the same way, just having
regular sex, why would I even goout and work to be with a woman
?
I'll just hook up my machine.

Speaker 4 (01:44:54):
No, nagging, no nothing.
Yeah, no feelings attached atall and you can just pick what
you want I know.

Speaker 3 (01:45:02):
Compared to just I'm stuck to one and you could just
pick what you want.
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
Compared to just I'm stuck to one, you could just pay
.

Speaker 4 (01:45:06):
Imagine downloading celebrities oh, you would run
out.
You would run out ofcelebrities.
You'd be like, oh, that wouldprobably drop our population
like I mean yeah, it would take.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
It may not be as quick, but if people are not
going out there.

Speaker 4 (01:45:20):
I don't think so, because you can also do like a
sperm bank thing that too.

Speaker 2 (01:45:24):
But if people are getting sexual relief and people
are getting because I'm suresex wouldn't be the only thing
you could get you could probablydownload your own girlfriend
and boyfriend yeah, and if youcould, feel and you could talk,
like if you could do everythingwith a real person with a vr
system.
A lot of people are not evengoing to care to go start a

(01:45:47):
relationship with the realperson because they'll have that
technology at home now.
Granted, I'm sure somethinglike that is is one way far away
, but probably not too far away.
But two gonna buy it beprobably be hella expensive at
first, like for it to be like acommercial thing where majority

(01:46:08):
of people could afford it.
We're talking probably way downthe line yeah, like how elon
has his robots yeah there you go, there's your robot, girlfriend
.
You don't need nothing whereit's like that you just shut it
off and go to bed like Iwouldn't be surprised if, if the
world came to that, populationgoes down, like you said,
illness will go down and likeall that stuff.

(01:46:29):
But it's got its pros and consto it, but then, like I said,
the population goes down and theworld's going to be fucked and
that, like I said, that's true,but then, like a lot of people
would try to perfect thelifespan too, You'd be living
like fucking 200 years.

Speaker 4 (01:46:44):
I'm sure that's far away from now, but that'd be
wild, yeah, like how the lieabout Back to the Future, saying
in 2024 I'm going to haveflying cars, yeah we're still
waiting for our flying cars.
Barely on electric, yeah, butthat would be something to be

(01:47:05):
able to pick, whatever woman,whatever you, whatever yeah,
whatever you want at that point,that would be great then.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
Um, that brings me to I'm curious.
You are single right now, right?
Correct so I know and we won'tget too much into it, but I'm
just curious from my owninformation, like what's your
ideal girl, oh God?

Speaker 4 (01:47:28):
I want to know.
No, I want to know.
I want to know Ideal as in whatyou mean like personality-wise,
physical-wise.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
So let's start with personality, personality, and
then give me look-wise and thenjust give me like what you want
to see in, like a wife type of.

Speaker 4 (01:47:44):
Aspect yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
So, personality-wise, what are you looking for?
What's your ideal?

Speaker 4 (01:47:48):
Personality-wise yeah , a good sense of humor.
I have a fucked up sense ofhumor.
I have some dark humor and Ihave some Like this humor.
It's like teasing, but slight.
I guess it would be slightlydisrespectful, but I don't see

(01:48:11):
it that way?

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
I don't see it that way.
Someone who could like jab,like give jabs and like talk
shit about you.
But you know we're playingaround.

Speaker 4 (01:48:18):
Yeah, talk shit or joke around and be like oh, I'm
like, oh, I'll be slightlyinsecure, but I'm not insecure.
I'll put myself in that spotjust for the humor-wise Like she
jokes around, but like sit yourfat ass down.
No, I'll be like oh, you're outand about flirting around,
aren't you?
We take it home, yeah.
You know Stuff like that, and alot of girls will be like I'm

(01:48:40):
not no ho in this shit.
I'm like, I'm not calling youho, I'm just joking with you
yeah okay you know, be like, oh,I'm gonna take this guy home,
you know.
Flip it onto me.
And be like bye, black bitch.
Where the fuck do you think youare like?
That's my body the fuck you.

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
Talking about you're mine, that's mine okay stuff
like that all right, so goodsense of humor.

Speaker 4 (01:48:59):
Um, I'm a i'mvert.
I'm real shy, I'm real chill,I'm not great with talking to
people, I'm a complete introvertand I want someone that's more
extrovert, just because I wantto experience things that I know
by myself I wouldn't experiencethat will push you to do stuff.

(01:49:19):
Something I know I would notpush myself to go do that at all
.
Yeah, someone that's morecaring that isn't really we all
like nice things, but someonethat isn't completely bougie
just because so not highmaintenance, but likes to take

(01:49:40):
care of herself.
Yeah, because I love nails, Ilove manicures, pedicures and
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
Do you like makeup on a woman?

Speaker 4 (01:49:48):
I do I do Nothing like fucking caked on, because I
want to wake up to you in themorning and be like you're still
beautiful, no matter without it, but something that brings you
up to that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:59):
When it's needed, you can do it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:00):
Gotcha, but I prefer natural beauty.

Speaker 2 (01:50:04):
I'm the same way too.
That's why I asked you.

Speaker 4 (01:50:06):
Yeah, no, no.
Not that you have to wear itevery single day.
If you want to wear lipstick,mascara, stuff like that, sure,
but that caking stuff onWeddings.

Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
Sometimes you see some women that just like do you
?

Speaker 4 (01:50:20):
not see how much makeup is on you.
Their beat they face every day.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
Just look normal it looks like you could just like
ice cream frosting CompletelyLike just scoop that shit off
your face.
Completely.

Speaker 4 (01:50:30):
It looks like a bunch of powder.
It's bad dude.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
Yeah, all right.
So is that pretty much the bulkof it, or do we got one more
thing to add?

Speaker 4 (01:50:36):
That's a bunch, but personality wise, yeah, okay and
don't be shy.

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
What physical appearance, oh jeez.
And it's not even like.
Just what do you like?
I like them short okay, I'mtall, so shorter than you, of
course shorter than me.

Speaker 4 (01:50:54):
I'm like 6.
I'm 5'11, 6'1, 6'2 yeah withdepending on footwear.
Yeah, you know boots, shit likethat gym shoes 6'2", yeah, with
, depending on footwear.
Yeah, you know, boots, shitlike that Gym shoes.
I'm like six foot, it's an inch.
I like them short, nothing pastlike five, ten, you know five,
nine, five, eight, five, six,five, four.
So, even if a girl was Not acomplete turn off.

(01:51:23):
It's just a simple fact that,like it's a preference.
It's a preference Because me,I'm a Hispanic, so if I want to
go to a baile, I wear boots thathave like Slight heel.
Well, I want my Ideal woman Tobe able to wear heels Whatever
height she wants.

Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
I got it so not be tower over me, so it's not
necessarily.

Speaker 3 (01:51:37):
A deal breaker?
No, not a deal breaker.
No, not a deal breaker.
It's just like a preference.

Speaker 4 (01:51:40):
It's just a preference just because of that,
but shorter.
I like them thin, but withsomething on them, you know,
some kind of meat.
I like girls with curly hair,like I said natural look Not
like.
No fake implants and stuff likethat, of course, yeah.

(01:52:01):
I'm not a big feet person, justsomething that doesn't look like
what the fuck's wrong with yourfeet.
I like a girl that can maintainher nails, like even if it's
just natural.
Yeah, but I do like the fakenails stuff like that, like when
a girl scratches my back likethe long, like the super long
nails.

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
No, not no crazy long shit, not like some shit.
To my speaker asshole.
Just something that's likenormal you know like Just normal
maintenance on the nails, Noteven normal.

Speaker 4 (01:52:28):
You can do fake nails like with some length to them.

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:52:31):
But nothing like no three, four, five inch type of
like nails where you're like,where you like literally look
and you're like, how do you wipeyour ass without?
Yeah, yeah, that, no, um,that's really about it, you know
?
Um, an ass or a boob kind ofguy?
Um, I prefer a little bit ofboth, um, but what do you prefer

(01:52:53):
more?
I prefer more, a little bitmore ass everybody says even my
mother, my kids says I'm a boobman, no.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
Because I know like, over time, the boobs are like
the one thing, that like.
So you're an ass man.
Just solely on the fact that,statistically, tits are going to
sag rather than ass.
Oh yeah, for sure, I like that,for sure, everything's in the
future.
I like that, everything's inthe future.
All right, I got that For sure.

Speaker 3 (01:53:19):
Everything's in the future.
I like that.
Everything's in the future.
I got you Everything's in thefuture, okay, you know what I'm
saying?

Speaker 4 (01:53:25):
Yeah, when you see that fat girl in the gym.
You might have to invest sometime in that, Because once you
see that diamond in the roof,yeah, it's worth it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
All right, you know she's loyal to you.
So, just Like you can make itquick, give me like two or three
, just like traits that youwould just love a wife.
I'm talking about someone thatlike five, ten years from now
you're married and you're like Ilove my wife because she does A
, b and C.

(01:53:55):
What are those like two orthree traits that you would love
a wife to do or be?

Speaker 4 (01:54:01):
So, like for me, would it be considered like a
nurturing person, like it's likesomeone that can take care of
you, like someone that can cookfor you, someone that can clean
for you and stuff like that, Ithink.

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
in my opinion Would you ball that separately or one
together.
I think that comes with beingin a relationship.
Yeah, Like in a healthy,healthy relationship.
Obviously there's relationshipswhere women treat you like shit,
yeah, but I think if you arehappily married, then that
nurturing I think willautomatically come, because you

(01:54:31):
guys are wife and husband, soyou guys are supposed to kind of
take care of each other.
But, and as of right now, ifyou want to say nurturing as far
as kind of like looking out foryou, taking care of you,
supporting your dreams goalsthen yeah, we can use it.

Speaker 4 (01:54:49):
Yeah, we'll put that together like like someone
that's like very nurturing,caring very supportive, yeah,
very supportive um someone I cantalk to, no matter because um
with me.
I have a lot of like issues I II close out my world not normal
for a lot of guys, especiallyhispanics, like we talked about

(01:55:11):
earlier yeah, but yeah, I getthat someone I can trust and
talk to where like even thoughstatistically no man should open
up to a woman like that becausethey use that against you um or
yeah, potentially, yeah, yeahnormally it's like that once a
woman sees you cry, it's likeit's kind of over with man you

(01:55:34):
think so?

Speaker 2 (01:55:35):
do you think that depends?
It depends a majority.
Yes, can't be open majoritymajority.

Speaker 4 (01:55:40):
Yeah, yeah, you can't , because then they feel like
you really can't protect reallythat's interesting and I'm not
knocking it.
That's how you feel, obviouslyI just, yeah, that's how I feel
about it, but I think um, Ithink communication wise and
being on the same level to makea marriage work.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
I think feelings and need to be exchanged and I think
if you show that you're alittle vulnerable sometimes, I
think that's good for therelationship.
It's just what I want where Ican be vulnerable towards you
not, you use it, spin around andtry to like use my own weakness
against me so basically, youdon't want a woman that's going

(01:56:23):
to be manipulative.
Basically, yeah, technically,yeah.
Like this isn't manipulative.

Speaker 4 (01:56:28):
Let's use that one.
Let's use one more thing.
Damn.
Let me think about that one, Imean that's fine too.

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
We could leave it there.
I mean, that sounds pretty damngood, no, I got one more.

Speaker 4 (01:56:43):
What was that?
I want someone, that Total guything, maybe thing, someone
that's very sexually activetowards me.
That wants me often Because I'ma little bit weird in that
aspect.
I like, when a woman wants toengage me more than I didn't,

(01:57:03):
what I have to try because itmakes me feel like you genuinely
well, you feel wanted yeah,yeah, I get that compared to
well, no shit, I know your asswants some shit but it's nice to
no give me some.

Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
It's nice.
It's nice to feel wanted.

Speaker 4 (01:57:20):
It's nice to feel yeah, make me like be open with
me if you like this, like thatyeah, express it.
Let me know.
I will try to please you in anykind of way you want no, I get
that man absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:57:34):
I think I think everybody, I think everybody
wants that ideally, everybodywants that Ideally, everybody
wants that.
But some people, for whateverreason, don't know how to
reciprocate that, or they don'tknow how to.

Speaker 4 (01:57:49):
I feel like people are very scared to be judged on
what they want.

Speaker 2 (01:57:52):
That too, but that's where the whole communication
comes in.
If you don't tell yoursignificant other that this is
what I want, and even if you do,but if you don't make them
understand like, hey, this issomething that really is about
me or really something that Itruly value, and if you can't do

(01:58:15):
that as a partner, then youneed to reconsider.
Like, those are the talks Ithink in, in my opinion, that
need to be had between partners.
If there's something that youreally value or there's
something that you truly believein and that's that you think
it's gonna make you feel betteras a person, then you need to
share that with your partner,and if your partner can't

(01:58:37):
reciprocate that, then theremight be some issues that need
to happen.
But you're right, yeah,everything should be out in the
open, everything should becommunicated.
You guys should want to fulfilleach other's needs and wants
and if you can, then hell yeah,man, that sounds like a amazing

(01:58:57):
relationship yeah, hopefully Ican find it you're young dude
say that.
You got plenty of time, man.

Speaker 4 (01:59:04):
Time is against me.

Speaker 2 (01:59:07):
No, it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:59:07):
You're not even what you mean, you heard my ankle pop
like three four times sittinghere, I got joints popping all
the time.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
You're fine, man, get up, like my back hurts.
You're not even in your 30s yet.
What are you?
28?

Speaker 4 (01:59:19):
I'm going to be 29 in a month.

Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
Okay, still not in your 30s yet.
Yeah, you got plenty of timeit's knocking, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:59:27):
Knocking, I mean even then, like how a lot of women
now it's a race against timewith them.
So you know.

Speaker 2 (01:59:36):
More so for women.
Yeah, I will agree, so you knowlike in a 30-year-old, like for
me.

Speaker 4 (01:59:40):
I know I have my three kids, but would it be nice
to meet someone that doesn't.
It is because they're morereadily available to me Sure,
yeah, but am I against someonethat has kids?
No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (02:00:02):
But that's a whole other thing with me is, the
longer I wait, the less I havemore opportunities of finding
someone that's's yeah, but alsoyou don't want to rush anything
either.
No, like, in order to trulyhave that relationship that
you're seeking, that stuff can'tbe rushed.
If it's, if it's to happen andit's to happen your way, then
it's.
It's gonna happen at its owntime at the rate I'm going, I'm
gonna die alone.

Speaker 4 (02:00:21):
Shut up and I think, I think I'm gonna end up getting
someone from mexico and that'swhat I'm saying, and you and
that might be.

Speaker 2 (02:00:29):
But don't think that it's not gonna happen or it's
gonna take a long time, becauseyou don't know who's gonna show
up in your life.
You don't know when it's gonnahappen.
You could be, it could be inthe craziest place, you could be
taking a vacation somewhere andlike, let's say, you go to
mexico and boom, oh you, you meta person down there that you
didn't think you were expectingto do.

(02:00:51):
Shit happens all the time.

Speaker 4 (02:00:53):
Man don't oh, I bet, but, and sometimes I would like
someone that likes speaks bothlanguages a lot of good things
happen when you least expect itto.

Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
This is true.
Yeah, this is true, but I willleave you with um six things
that in the last few weeks.
I read over these little notesand tidbits every day.
I read these every day and itmakes me think in more of a like
a personal growth, and it's thetitle is called six

(02:01:26):
uncomfortable truths that willset you free, and we don't
really have to go into them areyou gonna text these to me?

Speaker 4 (02:01:35):
I could text it so I can read them every morning yeah
, I could text it to you.

Speaker 2 (02:01:38):
um, the first one is you can't save everyone.
Learn to let go and focus onthose who truly matter, and I
think a lot of this goes totowards more of like the people
pleasers that try to pleaseeveryone but but at the end of
the day, you have to learn tonot get stuck on it so much and

(02:02:04):
just focus on the people thattruly matter and like in my
opinion, that's family, and likeyour immediate family, kids,
significant other, and that'show I look at it, and regret
hurts more than failure.
Taking a chance is better thanwondering what if, and a prime

(02:02:25):
example of that is me startingup this podcast.
I probably spent a year justlike thinking of ways to get
this podcast going and limboyeah, and it just like oh,
because I made an excuse of thisand that.
But I think my wife said one dayI'm like hey, you need to get

(02:02:45):
this podcast going like you saidyou're gonna do it.
We need to do it.
You're like you know what?
I'm just gonna fucking do it.
If I start off slow, I startoff slow you need to get two
more mics and get her, oh yeah,and.
And the mother, my kids.

Speaker 4 (02:02:58):
I agree and we would need to make this into an actual
game.

Speaker 2 (02:03:02):
And we could, and that's the plan, but in my head
I don't want to throw a hell ofmoney at it until something
picks up but if I continue tohave like I'm having a great
time, so that small investmentto get another mic, it's not
going to break the bank.
But, yeah, it would make theshow more fun and I totally

(02:03:23):
agree, but that's just anexample that I think about when
it comes to that quote.
Another one is growth requirespain.
The things that challenge youmost are the ones that transform
you.
And believe me, brother, likeyou know some of the shit that
I've gone through and some ofthe stuff in my past, like I

(02:03:44):
really think and I physically amseeing it in person like in
order to grow as a person justme specifically it requires some
pain, it requires a lot of,like a obstacle, it requires
that hard work that you don'treally want to do, but it's
necessary and I I think thatspeaks very true to everybody

(02:04:10):
yeah the other one keep that one

Speaker 4 (02:04:12):
yeah I wish that one's personalities wasn't that
one?

Speaker 2 (02:04:15):
yeah, a lot, like I said.
And it it takes yeah, it takesa lot to learn what you're
supposed to have learned a longtime ago.
You know I got two more.
The other one is not everybodywants what's best for you.
Learn to recognize who upliftsyou and holds you back.

(02:04:38):
And I'll refer to my wife.
You know not, I don't think Ihad very much issues with like
fakers or haters in my life, butwhen it comes to someone who
wants the best for me, my rideor die is my wife, and it's just

(02:04:59):
to really have that soak inlike.
That's why I look at this allthe time, because it just makes
me think of her and it makes mejust appreciate her so much more
.
And the last one is actionsmatter more than attentions.

(02:05:20):
What you do defines who you areand not what you plan to do.
And this is another one.
This is probably my biggesttakeaway or my biggest motivator
, because, not just in marriage,but a lot of stuff that I've
done just in my life, a lot ofit has come to where I talk a

(02:05:42):
big game and I don't followthrough or I'm not consistent
enough and I don't make anyleeway, and just in.
I think that's really importantin relationships, because if
you can't back up your game,then what's the point?

(02:06:03):
You lose credibility, you losetrust.
I think you lose respect,especially if it's more than one
occasion.
I think if you're going to sayyou're going to do something, it
needs to be done, to say you'regoing to do something, it needs

(02:06:26):
to be done, and I think thatspeaks huge volume in
relationships.
And then it also speaks volumein, like, any goals you have or
any like, any type of uh, lifeexperience really, because, like
, if you have a like my goal,this podcast, my goal is to get
listeners out there.
My goal is to grow this podcast.

(02:06:48):
If it happens, is it going tohappen?
A month or two?
Maybe people get big on sillierthings.
Yeah, is it going to take metwo years?
Years?
Maybe it may take that long,but if I'm not consistent and
I'm not saying sticking by myown or my own values or my own

(02:07:11):
um can't the word is eluding meright now but if I can't stick
to my game plan, then it's justanother thing that I gave up on
and because I wasn't able tostick to it.
So, yeah, I'll text you thosequotes.
They're not.
They're not even quotes,they're just like, like I said,
little notes and tidbits.

(02:07:34):
But I appreciate it actuallylike like I said, every day I
I'll read at least one time,because that way it just makes
me think about my life, mysituation, my marriage.
And what?

Speaker 4 (02:07:47):
you should do next.
Oh yeah, and what you shouldnext?

Speaker 2 (02:07:50):
It makes me think about it, it makes me ponder on
it, it makes me plan, it makesme be like damn you know, and it
makes me ponder on the shitthat I did back then that was
that I need to correct or dobetter as I get older.
But yeah, I'll send that to youand yeah, man, we've been

(02:08:13):
talking probably for about twohours now, so I'll cut it off
and hey, I appreciate you comingon.
Hey, you said you were going tobe all shy and stuff, but I
think you opened up a goodamount.

Speaker 4 (02:08:28):
We'll do another one.
We could do it, or I can beless, not feel a little more
comfortable.
Yeah, I could just like fuck it.

Speaker 2 (02:08:35):
Yeah, but we shall see, yeah Well thanks, but we
shall see.
Yeah, we shall see, well,thanks again, and just if you
can just try to get my podcastout there, tell anybody, or
anybody who you think would beinterested, and try to get that
word of mouth.

Speaker 4 (02:08:53):
For sure, try to find a crackhead you can have an
interview on All right man, allright, appreciate it.
Yep, all right, you're going toedit that part out, right where
I said that, yeah, edit thatpart out, Everything's taken.

Speaker 2 (02:09:08):
Oh God Holy shit dude .

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