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What if dissatisfaction in a women’s relationship led them to question their sexual orientation? I wonder it sometime. Join me, Charles Campos Jr., and my insightful guest, Dani, as we examine the fluidity of sexuality and the emotional connections that might drive women to explore same-sex relationships. We dive into the social perceptions that shape these choices and how they differ across genders, offering an unfiltered look at these complex personal journeys. With Dani’s perspective, we unravel the intriguing dynamics of sexual orientation and societal norms, sparking a conversation that challenges conventional wisdom.

Navigating the dating world through the lens of a woman is an adventure of its own, filled with expectations and standards that can sometimes seem impossible to meet. In this episode, we discuss whether women really do have an easier time finding partners than men and what underlies these perceptions. We offer practical advice on setting realistic priorities in relationships and tackle the age-old debate about whether size matters, reminding listeners that connection and skill often trump physical attributes. Our chat encourages a reevaluation of expectations, aiming to guide both men and women toward more fulfilling connections.

And what about the gym—a place of both transformation and quirky shared experiences? We share personal anecdotes about the everyday irritations of gym life, from equipment faux pas to the peculiarities of workout habits. With humor and candor, we explore the importance of maintaining respect and focus in shared spaces, while reflecting on body transformations and the influence of unsolicited advice. Our discussion takes a playful detour into cultural perceptions of anatomy, offering a mix of laughter, curiosity, and thoughtful insight into how we perceive ourselves and others. Tune in for a journey through relationships, societal norms, and the humorous side of fitness culture.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Hosted by Charles Campos Jr,this podcast brings you
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So get ready for a ride that'sas fun as it is real.

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So get ready for a ride that'sas fun as it is real.
This is Confident, not Cocky,and this is your host, charles
Campos Jr.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
All right, here we go again.
Got another one.
Actually, I got a familiar facehere.
I got Danny back.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
How you doing.
I'm doing good and you.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I'm good, so I wanted to bring you back on because
the first episode was kind ofjust off the whim.
I really didn't have anystructure, like my last handful
of episodes been, so I wanted tobring you back on having more
structure.
Wanted to bring you back onhaving more structure, hopefully

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a better, uh, a better layout,but overall shows and I just I
just told you before the showstarted our episode, which was
the first episode so far, stillhas the most downloads and which
is pretty impressive, because Ithink that episode was almost
two hours long.
It was a very long episode andit was just kind of everywhere,

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so I'm still surprised that it'sstill the most downloaded.
As of right now, what I've beentending to do especially going
into 2025, is, throughout theweek, I just jot down a bunch of
shit that I'm just eithercurious about or I'll just be

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thinking to myself.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Uh-oh.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Some of it is out there, but you know what, I
don't care.
But my question to you, and youcan tell me your opinion on
this, if it even makes sense,because some of my thoughts
don't make sense all the timebut do you think women turn
lesbian because they haven't gotany good dick?

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no you think it's a?
Do you think it's easier forwomen to bounce back and forth?
Like it's easier for women tobounce back and forth, Like it's
easier for women to be bi thanit is for a man to be bi?

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
So then, I just think that women who aren't really
satisfied in bed, I think theytend to want to go to the other
side, like the same sex no youdon't think so, you don't think
that's like like even apercentage of the case?

Speaker 3 (03:14):
they'll turn to it, but not the satisfaction.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
So you think it's more of a you, so you think
they're looking for more of anemotional connection rather than
the satisfaction in bed yeah,you could find satisfaction with
anyone yeah, that's true, butyou just try a different one.
Well, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
So what if a woman just no, no, you just try a
different man.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
That's what I'm saying what if a woman just
keeps trying different men andthey're like man, I can't find a
man outside the box.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
You know, we all types but sometimes you got to
hop out of the type.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, I don't know.
Sometimes I just think that awoman is could easily choose to
go lesbian, unless you think thewhole going to a same sex is
not a choice.
Do you think it's more of abiological component?

Speaker 3 (04:11):
I think it's biological, but then I think
people choose it like more onemotional rather than like
sexual.
So, like I could see, if youget tired of not having that
emotional connection with a manand you want to try, because
women we're women we connectmore emotionally.
So I can see you wanting to trywomen because you want to

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connect on the emotional level,but not because of satisfaction.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
See.
But then that statement is likedo you think that's true for
men?
I mean, men generally don'treally are not on the same level
, like emotionally wise, aswomen.
So for a guy to say they go gay, I think it's it's totally

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different, like ballpark,because a lot of women will be
hetero like throughout theiradult year and then just want to
switch.
Like I've seen stories ofmarried and it happens on both
sides, but stories of marriedwomen who end up leaving their
husband for another woman and Imean, like I said, the same

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thing happens.
And I mean, like I said, thesame thing happens.
There's some, sure, there'sscenarios where men leave their
wives because you know to bewith another man.
But I think if a woman andmaybe not 100% of the time, but
I think women out there ifthey're not being satisfied or
if they're not, if they don'thave that, like you said, that

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emotional connection or can'tseem to find an emotional
connection, then I think theytend to go to a woman.
But I think that it's easierfor a woman to kind of like
bounce back, say they go andhave a relationship with a woman
.
I think it's a lot easier for awoman to be like ah, this

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really didn't pan out like Iwanted to, and so they come back
to men, but then then they justclaim they're bi.
I don't see that really being acase for men, do you?

Speaker 3 (06:17):
no, I think men are very straightforward.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
You're either gay or you're straight.
I feel like most of the timeand this is me generalizing, but
I think most of the time men,when they come out to be gay or
maybe when they realize they'regay, I think it's at a really
young age.
And of course, women I'm surethere's women that come out or

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maybe realize when they're young, but I think most of the four
men, it's like they're eithernew at a young age and then they
just knew from there, and itjust maybe takes some years for
them to come out of the closet,and nowadays it's a lot easier
to do it rather than 10-15 yearsago.
But I just think men like youyou said is more straightforward

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it's either you're gay and yourealize at a young age or you're
not.
But women, I just think, tendto play both fields, kind of
like at their own convenience,if that makes sense.
And I just think a lot of it ismaybe not a lot, but I think

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some of it is because a womancan't find a satisfying partner
and I think that they get boredor they get frustrated.
So they're like, hey, I'm gonnatry women, and I just think
it's easier for them to bounceback and forth and but then okay
.
So this kind of goes into myother thought that I have and

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like the whole, the whole thingand I've seen it on TikTok the
whole thing about where womenchoose.
They choose to be singlebecause they there aren't good
guys out there or they justhaven't found the one and
they're tired of dating.

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So they're like you know what,I'm gonna choose to be single.
And it could be two months,three months, six months, shit.
I've seen women claim they'vegone single, single, for like
over a year.
But so do you think that'sreally a choice that they're
making or don't you think it's?
I mean, if you're going throughguys and you're not finding

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someone that's sticking, thenmaybe it's not the guy and maybe
it's something wrong with youright, I mean, am I?
am I right about that or do youthink women have like have that?
The rationale is logical whenit says they choose to be single
because there aren't good guysout there I think, instead of

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saying they choose to be single,like we have to watch our words
.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
So like when us, as women, say I choose to be single
, it's we have to watch ourwords.
So like when us, as women, sayI choose to be single, it's kind
of like, yeah, there are goodguys out there, and sometimes
they're right there in front ofyou, but like it's not the guy
you want, so you are just like,you know there's no connection,
you don't click or you try tofind any little wrong with them
and you're just like there's nogood guys out there.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
So isn't it?
So if, as a woman and it couldbe a man, it is, it doesn't
matter.
But just for the topic at hand,for women trying to find my
words or how to explain it, it'smore like we got to work on
ourselves.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
So, when we're saying we choose to be single, I think
we mean like we want to sitback and kind of work on
ourselves, because at the end ofthe day we're going to realize
why none of these relationshipsare working.
What's going on?
We're going to dig deep and youknow like we're going to see
our own flaws that we all needto work on.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
That makes sense and that's why I wanted to get your
opinion on it, because oneyou're a female and two you're
single.
So I figured I'd get youropinion on that.
But don't you think part ofthat rationale, or part of the
outcome of that rationale, is alot of these people I see they
have children.

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So clearly I think childrenplay a part in that as far as
finding the right suitor,because for a man to, you know,
potentially, take on kids, oreven multiple kids, that takes a
, takes a special man right toto take that on.

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And when women are dating outthere, you know, especially
especially young women, I meanwe're talking there's women out
there who are probably in theirmid-20s that have multiple kids
and probably even earlier thanthat.
And then, obviously, when youget older, or women who are in
their 30s and have kids andhopefully they're a little older

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, but even women in their 30sthat have kids, I'm sure it is
to find a suitable match thatwill, you know, accommodate,
let's just say, baggage, havingmultiple makes it harder too

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right, I, I absolutely.
And so I think, like you said,you said it perfectly.
I think it's women are tryingto figure out like damn, what is
wrong with me, or why can't Ifind a guy that will stay, or
why can't I find a good guy?
And then I think, after all thefailures, they do the whole

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self-reflection, and I thinkpart of that comes with like
damn, I have children, we got Igot this going on and it, it's
hard out there.
But I just don't like the ideathat women are saying like, well
, I've been single for a yearbecause it's my choosing, I've

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been trying to do this, this,this and that.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
And that's when they're avoidance.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, I think so, and let's not completely generalize
.
I'm sure there's women who sayfuck men for a while, let me get
my career going, let me getthis taken care of and by all
means do what you got to do.
But it's, it's just you cankind of tell.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
I mean technically that still falls in the category
of avoidant, so it's like yeahyou're self-focused, they're
just giving them, but you'reavoiding you know the matter,
like you're not ready to sitdown and look back at the
relationship because you know itcould be painful, it could be
traumatizing.
Whatever happened in therelationship, you end up

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avoiding it and you throwyourself in either self-love,
work, school, like at the end ofthe day, you are avoiding the
situation at hand.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
That happened yeah, absolutely, and I think what
I've been saying.
I think a lot.
I just noticed.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
But interesting enough.
But we're humans, we are aspecies that want to mate and
don't want to be alone.
Nobody wants to be alone and Ithink it comes down to a mental

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state.
It comes down to a mental statebecause, yeah, I'm sure women,
especially with kids and are inthe dating realm like, yeah,
they want to find someone tospend time with and ultimately,
you know, have have them betheir long-term you know partner
.
So for someone to say they, theyare choosing to not try to be

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with someone man, I mean, Ithink maybe initially they mean
it, but I don't think it takesvery long for for you not to
have that special someone tolike, talk to or text to every
day.
Yeah, I'm sure you have friends, but you know what I mean, like
that romantic type ofrelationship, because at some

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point, you know, especially ifyou're, if you have kids, your,
your every day becomes pretty,probably overwhelming Wake up,
take care of kids, go to go towork, come home, take care of
your kids, feed your kids, takecare of yourself.
I'm sure if you go to the gym,go to the gym, and it's just
like an everyday cycle and allyou really do is just have

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conversations with your kid, youknow, and I'm sure that gets
lonely.
But I just I thought that waswas pretty maybe the right word
is not arrogant for women toclaim that they're choosing to
be single because they can'tfind the right guy.

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I think a lot of it is theirpersonality, their baggage, even
, like the environment or thelocation that they're at, like
maybe it's not necessarily thatyou can't find a good guy.
It's maybe your preference andyour standards and everything

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else is not on point.
So you keep going through theseguys that have the same traits
or their personality orbackground and, yeah, they're
blowing up in your face.
But for you to say that you,you know, you're choosing all
this and that you, you couldhelp not, you know, you know

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what I'm trying to say I justthink that's so silly and and it
doesn't like make me mad, butit just when I hear stuff like
that, it's just like really likewho?
who you trying to fool?

Speaker 3 (16:11):
you know that totally wrong, totally wrong and I'm
sure other men feel the same waywho are good guys yeah and like
I said it, it definitely goesboth ways, but let's go back to
it.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
I think it's a lot of hell easier for a woman to get
a man than it is for a man toget a woman a woman or a man has
to work probably four or fivetimes harder to just get an
attention of a woman that theythink is is attractive.
But a woman could go out andanytime they want, and all they

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gotta do is bat their eyelashes,or you know?

Speaker 3 (16:51):
whatever, just not have a rbf yeah it, it's.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
It's so much easier and that's what that's another
thing like.
I'm sure there's a lot moredepressed single men out there,
you know, thinking, thinking tothemselves that man, why can't I
find a woman?
And then there's women out therewho are complaining like oh my
God, why can't I find a decentguy after they just went through

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four guys, four or fivedifferent guys that year alone.
Through four guys, four or fivedifferent guys that year alone.
Like I'm sure a lot of menwould love to have that problem,
just to be able to say thatthey went, they've dated four or
five men or women and can'tfind something.
So it's definitely a lot easierfor a woman to find someone.

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But I think it comes down towell, if you're going through
men and you're frustrated,rather than just say fuck men
and take whatever a year off,how about you look at yourself
in the mirror and maybe changeyour standards, your preferences
?
You're just your whole thoughtprocess about dating.

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So then well, let me ask youand get your opinion.
So if a woman hasn't had anyluck, say, let's say let's be a
little dramatic let's say, inthree years a woman just hasn't
had sex, hasn't really maybedated two or three men in a
two-year period, like, and they,and they came up to you and be

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like danny, what am I doingwrong?
What should I do?
What kind of advice would yougive that woman?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
honestly, like how you said, you gotta kind of like
relook at your standards.
What?
What is it that you truly want,like, what are some things that
are needs, or like bonuses, andwhat are some that like no, he
has to have this Becauseobviously we all have our ideal

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person that you know.
We want them to have this tradeand this trade and that and
that, but nobody's perfect andyou ain't gonna find a man that
has everything you want on yourlist.
So it's like at the end of theday, it's like write everything
that you like and really focuson, like the main three or the
top five that are like I trulywant this in a man and you you

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know these other things.
You know there'll be bonuses oradd-ons, but if they don't have
it, it's not a deal breaker forme.
Like these top three or thesetop five are my deal breakers,
and try focusing more on findingthat, rather than you have this
list of 30 things and you'refocusing on something that's
like you can teach them that orthat's something that can be

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learned.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Like I can fix them type of mentality, yeah, like
that's not something they haveto have off the bat.
Yeah, no for sure.
I mean that's valid enough.
Almost like a just do like apros and cons type of scenario.
Obviously it's different whentrying to find you know, a
partner, but definitely the sameconcept all right, you know,

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hey, that's, I think that'spretty good, I like that and all
right.
So let's, we'll go off on thewhole rant about being single
and all, and so I I looked thisup the other day not by choice,
because I found this on tiktokand not this specific topic that

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we're gonna go into but I foundit funny and I think it's
appropriate for me to ask you,because you're single but and I
know this was kind of my big,not big thing, but curiosity,
especially when I was youngerbut do you think dick size

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matters?

Speaker 3 (20:55):
if I wasn't sitting down, I would have fell out of
I'm just curious, do you thinkit matters?
I mean I would, I would say nobecause, honestly, it's what you
can do with it.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Okay, that's a fair.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
That's probably the most common Now, I guess to a
certain extent, like you know,if you just small, small like
you can't feel anything, youknow, I don't know, but I mean,
like it's what you can do withit, do you?

Speaker 2 (21:23):
think that really happens?
Do you think a man is could bethat small where a woman can't
feel something?

Speaker 3 (21:30):
I think it's possible but I think it depends on the
woman, like one woman might sayhe's too small and another woman
would say you're perfect for meso do you think it's?

Speaker 2 (21:40):
do women have different?
I don't even know how to saythis.
Do women have different sizeswhen it comes to your hole?

Speaker 3 (21:51):
I don't know.
I've been told.
Yeah, I've been told there'slike Like I get like it
stretches.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Obviously you know, for you know giving birth
reasons, but I wonder if womenare just naturally maybe grow up
with having different sizes.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
I don't know, men act like there is, but like like
the whole saying, or if theyjust fill in your head, I know
right, like the whole, if youhear the saying throwing a hot
dog down the hallway that's from.
We're the Millers, right?
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
I was like man because I was thinking about the
whole dick size thing, and nowyou got me thinking about the
whole size.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
I heard there's different.
Your lips look differently.
I know that.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
I know that for sure.
I know the lips definitely havetheir variety of shapes and
sizes, but I just never thoughtabout the fact like man, like
what if a man is so small?
Because I think the term micropenis is a real thing, like I
think it's like a actual medicalso I mean it could go for the

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same.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
That's why I was like some women might be like oh no,
this is just too small, likeyou know it.
It just, I guess, it depends onthe woman.
I, I guess you're right.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
I guess it all depends on the resilience of
your yoohoo and what it couldtake or what, what feels good to
you, and so going off that,what do you think is the average
length?
And let's just keep it to theus six or seven, you think
that's the average damn youthink that's the average size,

(23:29):
six inches you know you'd besurprised the the actual average
length of an erect penis is 5.1to 5.5 inches.
Damn, I was close.
Damn you were on almost an inchand a half.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
And two inches off, I was like no.
My final answer was six.
I was like six.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
That's a huge difference.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
My final answer was six.
I was half an inch off.
But I know this they're alsocurved Left right up down.
People don't know that.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
But they be curved.
I've seen the ones that curveup, they curve up.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
People don't know that.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
You know what I've seen?
The ones that curve up, theycurve up, they curve left that's
so weird.
They curve right.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
They curve down.
I've never seen that it'scalled Captain Hook.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
I've never seen one that curved down.
Yeah, so the ones that curve, Iwonder if that's like a, not a
birth defect, but I wonder why.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Man I should you're gonna have me look that up after
this I think it's a birthdefect, I think it just, it's
just what it is.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Well, so I'm saying, I'm not saying a birth defect,
but there's, there has to be a areason why they curve, and the
fact that they generally alldon't curve to the same.
No, I think.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
I think it's the same as like sizing-wise, like
they're all different sizes.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
It just varies from person to person.
It's kind of yeah, Now I'mgoing to look that up Like some
women like their boobs.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Some is like predominantly bigger than the
other.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
You're right, you can tell You're right.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Some are like you can't really tell.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Same thing with the lips, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
See, that's what I was like.
I think it's just Shit.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
You watch After the show in my Google searches.
It's going to say why do men?

Speaker 2 (25:13):
penises curve.
That's going to be in my searchengine moving forward.
All right, so I want to play areal quick game then.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Oh no.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
So, considering that you thought that six to seven
inches was the average, goodLord, I got a list of 10
countries that are the top 10.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Jesus really I'm going to fail this.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Well, let's see how many you can.
I'm not asking you to tell meall 10, but I'm going to give
you I won't even guess one,probably.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
That's what I'm curious about.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
I'll give you like four chances.
So name me one country that'swhat I'm curious which I'll give
you like four chances.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
So name me.
Name me one country that'sgonna be in this list and I'll
tell you what the average sizeis in that country.
I have to name the country.
Can't you name the?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
countries, no, and then what?
You're gonna guess the size?
Yes, no, I want you to.
I want you to think what's thecountry.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Are you serious?

Speaker 2 (26:05):
I wasn't good oh my god, you don't know what a
country is.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Give me an example of a country like canada france
spain um south africa egyptputting me on the slow, on the
black.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
That's why I said you're on the shore bus right
now, I am, so the fact that youdon't even you weren't sure what
a country is you're okay?
Fine, let's switch it around,I'll give you the size or no,
I'll give you the country.
Good there, I'll give you thecountry, and then you gotta
guess the size.
All right, okay, good lord.

(26:41):
Okay, good Lord, all right,nigeria, and you got to be
within like a range.
A range, so like if your guesscould be 6.9 or 5.7, try to give
me a number like that, becausethe range is not huge, but it
differs and it uses the fraction.

(27:03):
I would say so, what countrydid I give you the fraction?
I would say so, what countrydid I?

Speaker 3 (27:07):
give you Nigeria.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
I gave you Nigeria.
So what do you think?

Speaker 3 (27:12):
7 to an 8.5.
Oh Lord.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
The average size in Nigeria is 6.69.
Damn.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Calm your expectations down a little bit.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Calm your expectations, dear Lord.
All right, then I'll give youanother one.
All right, so this is the 10thone.
So it's obviously going to belower than 6.69.
So Columbia.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
I want to cry now.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Columbia the average size.
I would say Don't say like 6 to7.
Give me like no, no, no, I'mgoing to say like a 5.5 to a 6.5
.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
No, no, no, no, no, I'm changing.
I want 5.5 at the top.
At the top 4.5 at the bottom.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
This is top 10 countries with the biggest.
This at the top.
At the top, 4.5 at the bottom.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
This is top 10 countries with the biggest you
said, this is the lowest.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
No, I said on the top 10 list, on the top 10.
So this list consists of thetop 10 countries with the
longest longs.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yes, but you said this is number 10.
So he's got to be yeah number10.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
There's like hundreds of countries.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Yeah, so like they're the longest, but you said, it
may seem like they're not goingto be bigger than Nigeria.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Right, but I said the range is very close.
That's what I was saying.
Give me like a number, like 6.3or 6.7 or 6.1.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
I thought you said it's far.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
No, no, no, no.
Okay, so then so Colombia 5.7to a 6.3.
6.59.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
God damn it.
I was close.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
So, all right, Now I'm going to give you the number
one country that has thebiggest penises by average.
So it's Sudan, Sudan, Sudan,Sudan.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Everybody's going to be like I need to find somebody
in Sudan All right.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
So I don't want to range.
Give me a one solid number.
What do you think?
The average 7.5, 7.5.
So seven and a half, you wereoff roughly a little by a half,
it's 7.5, 7.5.
So seven and a half, you wereoff roughly a little by a half,
it's 7.07 inches.
Damn, can you imagine that?
So in america we're like 5.3average average.

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You go to sedan and these guysare packing.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
You can find a bigger dildo.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Oh man, these guys are packing over there Americans
.
They weren't dead last.
So there are countries outthere who have, or I think,
under 5.5.
So I feel bad for thosecountries.
But following close behind,though, where countries like you
know, where North Korea isright.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
You know Cambodia no do you know nepal?
Nope well, you got one of thethree.
So in these countries, northkorea has a 3.78 inches, 3.88 in
cambodia and nepal with 3.93,so under four inches they still

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getting married though, so, likeI said, it doesn't matter the
women that live there, though,are clearly used to those it's
about what you can do that issmall though I believe in y'all
people.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
It's about what you can do.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
We're still reproducing around the world.
So apparently I don't.
It don't matter in that way atall, but I was.
I was curious what you wouldthink, and good lord when you
said, yeah, the average boomright off the bat six, seven
inches.
I'm like man you got high, yougot very high expectations I

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would hate to see what your toyslook like, good lord I do not
own those, I just sell them, ifyou need me promote any.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
I can give y'all a lesson.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
So me and you, we go to the gym, and so you've been
going strong for how long now?

Speaker 3 (31:18):
It's going to be a year in February.
Oh my God, january is alreadyover.
It's going to be a year,probably in like two weeks Time
flies All right.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
So you've been going solid, you've been going good
for a whole year, so you've hadenough time.
You've spent enough time in thegym to kind of know what's up.
Let's go over, let's talk aboutgym pet peeves.
Do you got any?
Yeah, because there's.
I found like a like a surveythat was taken, kind of a

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general top 10 pet peeves.
So let's go through these petpeeves and let's get our own
little intake on it, becausesome of them I don't think are
as big of a deal, but there aresome people who may find it the
biggest pet peeve in the worldwhen men wear leggings, and I'm
talking about those nike pro

Speaker 3 (32:04):
leggings that is a pet peeve of mine.
Take it off.
I don't want to see it.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Put it away I don't, and I don't think that was even
on here.
On here it's my.
That's your personal pet yes,like no.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
It just put some shorts over it, like it.
Just.
It looks weird to me, it looksvery weird fair enough, fair
enough.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
so the first one, I think this is kind of a general
for everyone People not wipingdown equipment at the use.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Eh, sometimes I'm lazy and I don't wipe it down.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
I don't think it bothers me that much.
I mean, if you're alreadysweating and there's a sweat
streak on that bench, I don'tcare.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
I'll wipe it, but it's not a pet peeve of mine, I
don't care.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
I'll wipe it, but it's not a pet peeve of mine,
but is it?

Speaker 3 (32:51):
something that you, Some people are very like.
They wipe down the dumbbells,the bar, the sheets.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
But at the same time you know you're at a public
place, that you know people aresweating and getting dirty and
probably spitting out bodyfluids, and so you know you're
in that type of place but I'mjust lazy like you should expect
it, but I get it.
People like to be clean people.

(33:18):
That's just.
That's gonna be around forever.
Me personally, I don't wipe myshit down.
So yeah, yell at me for all youwant, but it it doesn't even
bother me either.
What about, like the loudgrunting, excessive noises like?

Speaker 3 (33:39):
those guys and guys that are just like yeah.
It depends like yes and no.
So like, if they're liftingheavy, all right, I'll give it
to you, you're lifting heavy.
But if you ain't lifting thatheavy and you grunting like you
like, like calm it down, or likeit's not even the grunting,
it's the, when they count outloud.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
One, two.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
That's a pet peeve of mine.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Good point, because I was going to say that doesn't
really bother me, because Ithink admittedly I do it
sometimes, not all the time, andyou know you hear it throughout
the gym.
You might hear a guy kind ofyell one time when they get that
one rep and you look over I'mlike okay, whatever.
And then you go back to yourworking out.
But to your point.
Yes, if you're doing shoulderpresses and someone's at the

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bench right next to you and isone, two and like just grunting,
yes I will give you that.
That would probably annoy me tothe point where I would put that
under a pet peeve for sure.
And then I know this isjessica's pet peeve, not
re-racking weights or puttingthe weights in the wrong spot,

(34:49):
but even then that doesn't evenreally bother me I think that's
the only, that's the only reasonwhy it bothers people.
I think because it's the ocd inyou and, yeah, I get it.
You know, if, if there's like a2.5 on a on a rack and there's
like a 25, a 210s and a 45 there, yeah, okay, I see that could

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get annoying, but I thinkgenerally most of the time,
people who re-rack at least tryto put the the the plate, like
on on a bar that has similarweights next to it.
Like don't put it on the topone when there's 5s and 2.5s,
like don't put it up there, butif there's like a couple 35s or

(35:35):
25s, I'll slide a 45 on there.
I try to keep it in the samerealm of weights.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Or when you're racking the dumbbells and they
put them in the wrong number.
That irritates me because it'slike why is a 15 here and it's
supposed to be a 30 so thatcould contribute.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
So I think either laziness does that or somebody
stupidly just put it on on thewrong, on the wrong numbers, but
at the same time it's also youbecome lazy.
You're like shit, someone putthem in the wrong spot and then
see that opening.
You're like you know what?
I'm just going to put thesehere.
Someone's going to correct it.

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It goes back to the wholere-racking your weights.
You're just like well, someonewill correct that and
unfortunately, the person whodoes it gets stuck with doing it
.
But it's hard to, unless you'regonna have someone on the floor
constantly watching people andreprimanding them for not

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re-racking.
It's always going to be there.
So I understand it's a petpeeve, but and as we go through
this list, I feel like a lot ofthese yes, they could be pet
peeves, but it's nothing that'sgonna like ruin your day no so
the next one is hoggingequipment.
So I think this is like at leastwhen I think of it, I think of

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young, like high school kidsthat are in groups of like four
and just on the bench for likeover an hour like holy shit,
dude, like come on?

Speaker 3 (37:08):
how many reps are you gonna do?
How many sets?

Speaker 2 (37:11):
like it's not a damn.
Like social club, like you know,people want to use this bench,
yeah, especially if it's busy,like just get your reps done and
and get off of it.
But I think that maybe irks memore than anything else, because
there has been plenty of timeswhere if it's a certain machine

(37:33):
that I want, I'm like, oh shit,he's not on it.
Then you have to find like analternative or go to the next
exercise and try to circle back.
But it's like that, just atleast to me, like it throws me
off, it throws me off my routine.
So and then sometimes I likeI'll give it like a couple
minutes and I'll kind of likewalk around, act like I'm doing
something.
And then sometimes I like I'llgive it like a couple minutes

(37:53):
and I'll kind of like walkaround, act like I'm doing
something and then kind of seeif where he's at, and but I
don't think it's that serious,but at least for me it could
throw off, um, throw off likeyour, your vibe or your routine
or something like that orsomething like that.
What about poor hygiene?

(38:13):
I know you've been by other gymmembers and like just smelled
the way they smell and like orit's like that bo, and it's not
pet peeve of mine, but it's justit just kind of sucks right
it's just, it's just like almost, it's not even like a
inconvenience, I mean, unlessyou're like come to the gym and
you expect to sweat, so it's

Speaker 3 (38:29):
like I can't say it's a pet peeve of mine, I'm just
like damn.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
I feel for you it's like the whole hygiene, part of
it or not the hygiene, but likethe whole cleansing this or
wiping down machinery, likeyou're going to a public place
that is meant for that type ofactivities, so like people are
going to sweat.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Some people sweat more than others.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
And if they didn't put deodorant on, then, yeah,
that kind of sucks.
But even people that putdeodorant on and stuff they just
excessively sweat.
If they go and they go hard andyeah, but a lot of times it's
always kind of like in passing.
You know it's like you're at abench or machine and somebody
just walks by like, oh wait,they.
You get that smell and after,usually after just like a couple

(39:16):
minutes, you forget about itanyways.
So and it's not like unlessyou're like shoulder to shoulder
and could constantly smellsomebody, then I can see that
being like an inconvenience, butthat's just kind of like
nitpicking a little bit Likeyeah people are going there to
sweat, people are going to havea little bit of a smell.
Unless you're tied together andconstantly smelling this, then I

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don't see what the big deal isat all.
Another one is talking on thephone, like engaging in loud
phone conversation, like thenyou ain't working out your ass
ain't out of breath like or Ineed some water like I get.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Like me and tita jessica, we'll talk in between
sets, but like sometimes wegotta pause.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
I'm like let me finish this set real quick you
guys do talk a lot we do, butwe'd be like, let me finish this
set real quick.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, you guys do talk a lot we do, but we'd be
like let me finish this set realquick.
You can't be on no damn phonecall talking the whole damn time
.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, to that point too, people who are on TikTok or
whatever, scrolling throughvideos or scrolling through
Instagram you're just taking upso much time.
But also, too, you could kind oftell who are the serious like
gym goers, because serious gymgoers they, they know what the

(40:40):
rest time should be, they know,you know what their goal is or
what their routine is.
So a lot of times you know, ifI go on tiktok, it's I literally
get on it like right after Ijust finished set and then I
scroll and then I like to use,like the gym that I have.

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They have digital clocks kindof like on one end of the gym
and as soon as I finish a setI'll take a peek at the clock.
I'm like, okay, it's uh, 657with 10 seconds.
I'm like, okay, I'll scroll,like I use that as my, as my
timer for my rest time.
But people who will scroll, I'msure they sit there for five,

(41:26):
probably 10 minutes or on thephone and like it's just hogging
a machine, so, but I haven'treally encountered that or like
thank god me either.
Yeah, it's like I've never, Ihaven't really but we don't go
at night, really, yeah, but eventhen I've been at the gym in
the morning, middle of the day,at night, it's if I don't know,
I mean unless I'm like rightbehind behind them, I don't know

(41:49):
if they're scrolling on tiktok.
And at that point if I'm, if Inotice that they're scrolling on
tiktok or if I notice thatthey've been on their phone for
a minute, then I'm, that meansI'm just not working on my shit,
like you know, I'm saying likeI should notice people when I'm
on the stairmaster and I canoverlook people and I'm like
look at that person.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
That's different.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Look at that person.
That's different.
Look at that person.
Yeah, that's different.
But if you're on the gym floorand you're trying to get a pump
in, oh no, I don't notice, yeah,I don't notice either it's when
I'm like doing cardio and I'mlike look at this person.
It's like he's been scrollingfor multiple minutes.
Or what about the improper useof equipment, like you ever see
those videos of people doingjust like some outrageous

(42:29):
movements on a Smith machine?

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Lap pulldowns, the always famous one, either they
don't lean back or they lean toofar back.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Yeah, or you've seen the people you ever see.
There's a video where they'reat the lap not the lap pulldown,
but the cable machine and theyput the whole stack on there and
they hang from it like down andact like they're spider-man and
some shit, or they use the thecables and they'll take both
arms or both handles and just dosome crazy shit like this um

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girl on tiktok.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
I was literally scrolling on tiktok and she put
on the kickback straps and shedidn't lower the thing, she had
it all the way at the top.
Oh my God, Did it take her offand she connected herself and
she's hanging upside down, but Ifeel like that would be more,
and the guy came to come helpher because she was getting
ready to kick back to do it andshe flipped up.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
But if the cable was all the way up there, and if it
had enough weight to lift her up, wouldn't she have had to pull
that cable all the way up there?
And if it had enough weight tolift her up, wouldn't she have
had to pull that cable all theway down to her ankles, like she
would have known that weightwas on, but that's why I was
like she did it for the tiktokthat's what I'm saying, like it
had to be for the tiktok and butthat that shit happens, though

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I don't know, and it's not evenlike like young kids.
I've seen videos of like old men, like 40, 50, 60 year olds go
there and they're doing someweird movements and it's women
and men kids that are kind oflike acting like it's a
playground at the gym and Ithink and now, the more that I

(44:06):
talk about it like it's pissingme off.
So I guess it's a pet peeve forme, because people that are
going to the gym, generallythey're trying to better
themselves, they're trying to,they're taking diet serious,
they're taking their workoutserious, and then you're trying
to do some damn triceppush-downs and you got a kid

(44:26):
next to you or whoever justacting a fool with these waves.
I'm like dude, get out of here.
Like you're distracting me,you're throwing off the whole
vibe in here.
So I think, out of the list sofar, I think that's the one.
Maybe that would have actuallypissed me off a little bit.
But other than that, that'sanother thing.
I've only seen TikTok videos ofit, and not really like

(44:50):
experienced myself.
A lot of these pet peeves I'venever really experienced.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
I experienced myself remember we're doing a chest one
day and they're pulling it allthe way back.
We're like you're not evenworking your back now they had
like that stack almost full andthat's.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
But that's the thing.
Like I don't really like careabout other gym goers unless
they're lifting somethingimpressive.
You know, like I don't reallycare about other gym goers
unless they're lifting somethingimpressive, I don't really pay
attention as much as I lookaround after my set because I'm
one of those guys that will walkin a circle before my other set
.
But even when I'm lookingaround, I don't really look at

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other people in their lifts.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
I look like I'm looking at you what is that
called?
Where it's like this look, justlooking, or whatever they call
it when it's like you look likewhen you're at the gym and
you're like staring off and theperson thinks you're staring at
them, but you're not, you're inyour own little, I'm just yeah,
I just look like I'm staring atyou, but I'm like, I'm not even
in my mind, right?

(45:49):
Now I have that problem.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
I've done that too, but then I get nervous from
doing that because I don't wantto make eye contact or make
anybody feel nervous.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
I start looking down now or up at the ceiling.
I'm like just or my phone, youknow what now that you bring
that up?

Speaker 2 (46:07):
there's a story I haven't even told Jessica, but
it happened last month.
I was at my gym and one of myfriends from work was working
out with his friend, like wewere doing our own separate
things.
I must have did what you did,because when I was getting my

(46:34):
stuff ready and it's it's in thearea where the you know you're
you got the rows of dumbbells,you got the rows of seats and
then you got the cable.
You know that area.
Right there I was getting mystuff ready and and like I kind
of wave my hand, I'm like I'mlike all right, see you later,
type of hand gesture, and theguy texts me like an hour later.
He's like hey, this guy came upto me and said, hey, do you know

(46:58):
that guy talking about me afterI left and he said, hey, do you
know that guy?
And he responded like yeah,he's like, hey, I'm going to,
I'm going to beat that dude up.
He was like looking at my girlor something.
And I'm thinking myself likewhat are you talking about?
And it must have been in astate where after I said I was.

(47:19):
maybe I was looking in herdirection and maybe I I was
looking too long and maybe sheeither she felt uncomfortable
and said something, or maybe henoticed that I was looking her
way and decided to say somethingafter I left.
But I just thought it was sofunny and the fact that you
brought that up I guess I don'tever really realize and I guess

(47:43):
that's the whole point.
You don't realize you're doingthat.
But I guess I do it to thepoint where I pissed some dude
off because he thought I waschecking out his girl or
something.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
so but a lot of gym goers know that you're not
intentionally doing like.
If you have that problem whichis like a lot of gym people who
are serious, they know they dothat, or it's like a thing that
is just done like you don'trealize true and, like, I'll be
honest and you could, you know,state your opinion on it, or not

(48:15):
even opinion, but you could sayotherwise.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
But honestly, like, when I go to the gym, part of
the gym is like, hey, I, I likelooking at the attractive.
Let's say attractive people Imean, is that not the case for
you when you go to the gym, like, are you not just checking out,
oh, like, oh he's cute.
Or like, oh, wow, he look, he'sbuff.
You know, like, do you not dothat?

Speaker 3 (48:36):
yeah, and then you see sometimes people's progress
too, like, oh my god, I remember, like when you were coming a
few months back, like what thehell are you doing that I'm not
doing?

Speaker 2 (48:47):
and like it's.
You know, obviously you don'twant to stare too long and so
you, you kind of take your peakshere and there between sets.
But, like I would admit it, andyou know, I go to the gym and
if I see a good looking girl andyou know I'll take a quick peek
and then after my set and she'sstill in the same spot, I'll

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take another peek.
So, and I don't think that'swrong, especially if women
nowadays, the clothes they wearto the gym, I'm like you can't,
you can't get mad at peopletaking peeks at you if you're
coming in with like goinglooking cute with intention,
right like here it did.
You got makeup on, whatever andyou got some short shorts or

(49:32):
some super tight leggings andyou just got your tits out and
stuff and you know, like, ifyou're going to the gym like
that, then you cannot get madabout men looking at you.
Now, when it becomes a situationwhere a guy is looking at you
too long, or inappropriate orinappropriately or even like

(49:57):
says some words to you orobviously puts a hand on you in
any way, then yeah, that's amajor problem that needs to be
taken care of.
But even then, even if youdidn't want the unwanted looks
or conversation or touch you,still, in my opinion you still

(50:18):
provoked it by wearing theoutfit that you're wearing and a
lot of it too, I think womenare doing to kind of show off
their progress.
Like, if you have a nice body,then you probably want to show
it off.
So I get that aspect of it.
But I won't deny saying that ifI see a cute girl or a fit girl

(50:42):
or a good looking girl, like Idon't, you know, it's not like I
don't take peaks here and there, I do.
I just don't do it to the pointwhere I make anybody feel
awkward, you know.
And then I damn, where did weleave off?
I think we left off on theimproper equipment, and then

(51:02):
these other ones I think don'treally, uh, really concern us.
It's like lack of personalspace.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Nah.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
I mean, if a gym's super crowded, then you kind of
have to and it depends on thesize of the gym, right?
How many people you're workingout with or like the time we
went and there was no morebenches and so like we kind of
posted up like right in thecorner gym people don't don't
bother by it, because they knowyou got to squeeze in where you

(51:31):
can squeeze in.
Like I'm here for my workout.
Yeah.
So I mean, like that's allsituational and I think for the
most people, people are politePeople, you know people are
trying to get by you to get away.
People are mostly understanding.
I don't think that's such a bigdeal.
And then I'll just finish thisone, because the other one it's

(51:53):
inattentive.
Personal trainers, I mean, Idon't really.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Yeah, I don't know about that.
I feel like it's so easy to belike a certified trainer, like I
don't know, someone couldcorrect me, but it's not like I
don't even know could correct me, but it's not like I don't even
know, do you?
You probably have to take somekind of classes, right, you have
to get like a certificate to bea personal trainer.
But even then, like I've seenpersonal trainers who are just

(52:20):
like average looking, you knowyou would think a personal
trainer is going to be fit ormuscular, thinking because
you're like, oh hey, my personaltrainers this way, then maybe I
should listen, and that's notto say that just because if
you're average looking, youdon't know what you're talking
about when it comes to fitness,because it's all about the
knowledge, the dieting and allthat stuff.

(52:41):
But I guess when you get a,there are personal trainers out
there, I'm sure of it, thatprobably half-assed their roots,
their their program or are justthere for a paycheck.
So I can understand that.
But another one is and I'malways nervous to give advice
and I don't think I've ever hadanybody come up to me but what's

(53:03):
your take on people giving youadvice as far as like form or
proper gym use or anything likethat have you have anybody come
up to you like hey, huh, well,yeah, me, but that's different.
But have you ever had a strangercome up to you but like hey, do
you mind if I show you a betterway to do?

Speaker 3 (53:24):
this.
I wouldn't do that to anyoneeither.
I don't mind like people I know, but like a stranger, I don't
know, it'd feel a little weirdbut.
I won't take it personal, I'lljust feel a little weird I was
gonna say, would you?
Would you you wouldn't take itas like an insult or anything no
, I would just feel a littleweird, like how long have you
been staring at me?

Speaker 2 (53:44):
yeah, true, that, true, true and and like I've
always thought about and it's Iwould never want to go to, like
a older, older person, it's.
If I ever decided to giveadvice or asked to give advice,
I would look for like a youngerperson, like someone in high
school or somebody super youngand you could kind of tell

(54:07):
because you could kind of tellwho, who's new and who's not.
But just to go up to someonekind of give that mentality hey,
I know more than you.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Let me show you how it's done but me and the jessica
actually did it.
Yeah, but it was on how torecord, because we were
recording our sumo squats forour leg day and he came up to us
after recording.
He's like hey, if you guys like, do it this way, you'll see the
butt more or something it meansyou just were like did you guys

(54:40):
take that advice?
No, we just felt weird, likehow long were you staring at us
and who did you stare at?
Did you stare at at both of us?

Speaker 2 (54:49):
That is kind of weird .
Yeah because I mean, like whenyou're at the gym you really
don't want anyone really comingup to you anyways.
And I think it all depends onhow the person does it as well,
like I've seen videos of peopletalking about that, and I think
it should always start as hey,how you doing, do you mind if I

(55:13):
show you a better way to do thisexercise?
And if they say no, they'relike all right, cool.
But if somebody comes up to youbut like hey, no, no, you're
doing that wrong, that's whenyou're like who the fuck are you
you know.
So it definitely depends on howsomebody, how somebody
approaches it, and from there Idon't think it's a big deal, but

(55:34):
it just.
I mean, people are just nervousin general to talk to anybody
they don't know.
So to go up to somebody and say, hey, you're doing this wrong,
you should do it this way, Imean you probably got to have
some some big balls to do it.
So since we do go to the gymand obviously we're, we're
working out to get that bodythat we want, I kind of a quick

(55:56):
hypothetical that I saw theother day and I'm just curious
if you would do it.
I don't think I would do this,I would be too scared, but let
me see what you think.
So if you were offered like a 10out of 10 body, flawless skin,
beautiful face, you'll age alittle slower and you can never
get like fat again.

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But in the next five minutes,after that wish was granted, a
man would appear with a ninemillimeter pistol and will shoot
you.
Meter pistol, it will shoot you.
The shot would not hit anymajor like artery or anything
like that, or it wouldn't be anyfatal areas, but it will cause
pretty serious damage.
And then one shot, the man justlike, disappears, never to be

(56:41):
seen again.
You could call for medical helpafter he disappears and
obviously you could get to ahospital to get patched up and
stuff, but if help doesn'tarrive in time, you could bleed
out.
So, knowing all thisinformation and knowing that
death could potentially be anoutcome, just depending on where

(57:02):
the bullet hits you and howlong help gets there, but the
the reward is pretty significant.
Would Would you take that deal?

Speaker 3 (57:10):
No, I feel like I didn't earn my body Really.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Like, because I go to the gym.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
I'm like I want to be able to say I worked for this,
Like I didn't take no easy wayout.
It's kind of like getting likelipo, tummy tuck, you know.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Like I get it on instances with people who've
lost like dramatic weight thatneeds the surgery needs and they
have you know like you need itbut like, if it's a way where
you can just lose it, I I'm notgonna cheat myself.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
I want to be like yeah, I worked for this shit.
Like no shit I'm that personlike I want to be like.
No, I worked for it.
I fucking bled sweat tears forit okay.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Okay, I was not expecting that answer.
I thought like you were likejokingly, take it Hell.
No, that's pretty good.
You know, who would take thatin a heartbeat?

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Auntie Jessica no no, no.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
First of all, the fact of being shot.
If she wasn't getting shot, shewould.
The fact that she had to taketake a bullet, she'd be like
nope, she would even think twiceabout it.
But not not to bust a vow.
But I, I think aaron would takethat deal.
That was a good one.
Everyone take that deal.
10 out of 10 times.

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He's like get shot.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
I bet people I'm just applying pressure.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
I'm gonna survive like he'll come up with all.
He'll come up with all theexcuses that it won't be so bad
for him to do it.
I, I would love that, honestly,I would love the idea of doing
it and the fact that I would ageslower and not be able to, like

(58:49):
lose all that progress becauseit's so easy to spend like five
years to get the body you wantand then you can literally go
back to square one and probablylike in six months.
You know, it's crazy how ittakes so much work to get to
your perfect, you know body andthen, like, not even in a

(59:09):
fraction of that time it couldgo, all go away if you just like
just went downhill and stoppedworking out and start and just
continue to eat junk food.
It fucking sucks.
So the idea that I could neverlose that progress, oh, it would
tempt me so much.
But the mere fact that, likefor me to potentially die and if

(59:35):
it, if things didn't like gothe way intended and I couldn't
get medical help in time and Iended up dying, I'm like this,
like I'd be looking at myselflike this dumb motherfucker
waste, like basically took the abody you know, to get the, the
perfect body, like to me.

(59:55):
I think it would be like thedumbest thing to like, obviously
.
If you got the reward, thenboom, you're, you're good,
you're set, you're a genius.
But if it doesn't pan out theway you want and you die, then
that's like probably people willsay that's the dumbest thing to
risk your life for, and sothat's good, I like.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
I like your answer though I wish you would have
gave me the scenario about thebook I would have read my whole
book of life.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
The book of life big quick.
As soon as I saw that I'd readit start to finish.
So for people who don't knowwhat the question was, I put a
tiktok out and basically, if youwere to start reading a book
and I think you would probablycatch on pretty quickly.
But let's just say you'rereading a book and you get, you

(01:00:43):
know, maybe whatever a fewchapters in and you start
realizing like man, this book,this story is really familiar.
And then you get to the pointwhere you are reading the book
and the book like gets to thatsame point in life where you're
at.
And the question is, what doyou do in that scenario when you

(01:01:06):
realize that you're reading abook about your specific life
and you said you would read thewhole thing?

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Start to finish.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
So you would want to know what happens and how you
die and when you die.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Start to finish.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Really.
So what if you read it?
And what if you see that youdie in a horrible accident two
years from that point?

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
Well, fuck it, I'm going to start living like now.
I'm like well, I'm dying in twoyears, I'm going in debt.
I'm going to spend a milliondollars.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
You can't do that, because then you're going to
fuck your kids over.
You can't just go in debt.
That debt doesn't just go awaywhen you die, I'm going to go
buck wild.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Then I'm about to live life.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Damn.
So that wouldn't freak you outat all.
I feel like, obviously, if yousaw that you live to be 90, then
great but I'm just cruisethrough be act invincible, like
nothing.
Oh, there's a robbery.
I'm not gonna die till I'm 90.
I'm gonna take down this robber.
I'm not gonna die now.
Yeah, you know what that?

(01:02:09):
That's a good point too,because if you read the book and
if you see that you lived along life, you're like man,
whatever challenges or likedanger you got in.
You're like nothing's gonnahappen to me.
Holy shit, I didn't think aboutthat aspect of it, but you're
right.
But the downside is, if youread it and you know you're

(01:02:31):
gonna suffer a death sooner thanlater, that would suck, but
apparently your, your answer isthat you'll go buck wild.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
I'm like well, I'm gonna die today.
So I'm just gonna be fearless.
If I, if I was scared, like,say, I wasn't talking to this
guy I was in love with, I'd belike, well, I'm gonna die
tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
So I'm just gonna be crazy, I'm gonna drive to his
house and be like listen I guessthat would take away a lot of
the like, the fear and anxietyof like consequences.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
Yeah, I wouldn't have no anxious I'm doing it then,
Like if I'm going to die.
I'm just going to, you're goingto know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
That's a good way to look at it, but let's, let's
take a step back then, and solet's say that's the situation.
Don't you think life would notbe very exciting?
Or don't you think life wouldget maybe boring because you're
like I know what happens,there's no like what ifs in your

(01:03:26):
, in your life or in your mind,so you don't think that maybe
eventually, over time, that itwould just get like boring?

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Yes, unless the butterfly effect kicks in Like
the game of Until Dawn.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Yeah, or the movie Butterfly Effect, yeah, yeah,
but that's the thing.
I can see where you're comingfrom.
But this is to say that, nomatter what you do, well, okay,
so let's play it a different way.
So let's just say, you read itand it says two days you're

(01:04:05):
gonna twist your ankle, or let'ssay break your ankle doing
something, uh, and it tells youthe, the day and the time.
So let's just say that, okay,you know what, know what?
I'm going to avoid that and I'mgoing to stay in bed all
morning.
I'm going to call off work.
Stay in bed all morning.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
The destination chases you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
So do you think so?
Obviously the book would haveto rewrite it.
But do you think it just comesback in like two days later
doing something?

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
you still break your ankle, you still break your leg
regardless.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
I think whatever consequence happens in that book
, I think it still happens, evenif you try to avoid it.
Maybe you avoid it for thattime and day, but I think it
still happens, maybe even in adifferent way.
So rather than you running onthe treadmill and breaking your
ankle for whatever reason, maybeyou're at work and fall down

(01:04:59):
the stairs but you still breakyour ankle.
So I guess there's that aspectof it because obviously the book
has already been written.
So if you change anything fromthe pay, from those pages, I'm
assuming and this is allfictional of then it would just
rewrite itself, but theconsequence would still be the

(01:05:19):
same.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Man that's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
I think that that would be too much for me.
I couldn't do it because atthat point one I wouldn't want
to know like my anxiety would bethe rule of just reading like
okay, when the fuck am I goingto die?

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
My anxiety would kill me not reading it, so I'd have
to read it.
I would have to read it fromstart to finish that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Yeah, we did that's.
I definitely didn't think abouta lot of that and the opposite
side of things, but, given onwhat we just said, I think I
would have to just put it awaybut like you're strong, I'm not,
but even like what jessica said, like maybe just kind of like

(01:06:02):
you can even use it as this.
Let's think about this way.
Let's say, something comes upin your life that's like almost
like a fork in the roadsituation and you're like fuck,
if I choose option a, this badthing can happen.
But if I choose option b, thisbad thing can happen.
But if I choose option B, thisbad thing can happen, but it's
not going to be Red pill or bluepill.
Yeah, so you could kind of belike you know, let me get this

(01:06:24):
book out, let me flip throughthese chapters real quick and
maybe even see what the outcomeswould be between A and B.
So maybe not necessarily readit all the way through, but
maybe use it to help you to makedecisions I'd be too impatient,
so I still read all of it butthen it's kind of circling back.

(01:06:46):
So let's say, if I used it forthat example, like I said, like
the option a, b and b fork inthe road and I get the book out
and I look through, I'm like,okay, I don't know what to do
here, let me see what my optionsare and see what the outcomes
are and then, my luck, I'll getto the chapter like where I die.
But then again, if I got tothat chapter it would have to be

(01:07:08):
at the end of the book.
So if I'm in the, if I'm likepage 300 out of 700, clearly I
don't die right so there'sclearly you got a big gap so.
So I guess, if I'm flippingthrough pages like, okay, I'm
getting to the close, to the endof this book, let me not, I
know yeah so there's definitelydifferent thoughts to to go out,

(01:07:31):
to go at this, but that's,that's a very good point.
I like that and and, like I said, like jessica said she would
keep it around obviously to kindof you know, see what happened.
But, like I just said, thatcould kind of backfire um in in
a bad way, because if you lookit up to make a decision and you

(01:07:52):
find out you get close to theend of that book, then you're
like, well shit, whateverdecision I make, I'm dead.
I'm pretty much dead.
So I like that so did you hearthat the penny might be going
away like?

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
that's kind of good.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
We don't use it and that's what the whole thing is,
because you know that it Ibelieve in 2023.
I forgot how many were made,but they said some crazy ass
number um.
What was it?
In 2023, taxpayers paid morethan 179 million dollars to

(01:08:33):
produce the penny, because Iguess the penny for for it being
one cent, it costs about 3.7the metal's different from all
the others well, that's anotherreason too, they said, because
the the cost of um the metal tomake it has gone up as well.
But I guess the the personbehind this is Elon Musk.

(01:08:55):
I guess there's a departmentcalled the Department of
Government Efficiency, dog orDOG I'm calling.
It's probably DOG, but they'retrying to come up with a game
plan that would just eliminatethe penny altogether, because

(01:09:15):
they said that in 2023, theycirculated around 4.1 billion
pennies in the year 2023 andthen for 2024 fiscal year, the
annual us mint report said thatit takes about 3.7 cents to
produce and distribute one penny, a 20 increase from the
previous year.
The increase has been partlydriven by rising costs of metals

(01:09:38):
like zinc and copper, just likehow you said.
But I mean we know the pennyhas pretty much devalued for a
long time.
I mean right now it's just likespare chain, no one cares about
the penny.
Like I could probably count onmy one hand how many times I've
used a penny to get like exactchange.
And like we live in a digitalera where people don't really

(01:10:01):
use money change or, yeah,change their money at all.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
They'll break a single before using like 30
cents.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
I know right, it's great, and then that that change
you get just goes into like acoin jar and most of it is is
really pennies, and because itreally doesn't circulate, like I
said, they go in jars, they goin sock drawers, they go in like
your uh, like little coin purseor whatever.
But I found it was interestingbecause the penny has been

(01:10:31):
around for almost as long as theunited states has been a
country.
According to the us, mintpennies were first introduced in
in 1793 and were made of copperback then and the penny was
actually the first circulatingcoin in the united states.
But even back then the coinswere already costing, are
causing a stir because of theirlarge, large size.

(01:10:52):
Well, clearly, and then,obviously, when you got the
paper money, you could fold it,you could, you know, you know,
store it away.
I mean, it's a lot harder tocarry change in coins than it is
, you know, dollars.
But and then, like othercountries have already gotten
rid of small coins, I believe,yeah, canada stopped making the

(01:11:12):
one cent coins in, whileAustralia stopped making them
back in 1982.
So there's precedents forcountries to eliminate it and as
far as our debt is in thecountry, like if we could save
any types of millions of dollars, especially $180 million, by

(01:11:33):
just getting rid of somethingthe Americans don't even really
care or use for.
Saving money it makes sense,sense like we got to do
something.
I just thought that wasinteresting because it's true,
like I don't even think aboutpennies, I mean, if anything,
the, the one coin that youreally think about are quarters,
because one I mean fourquarters make a dollar and then

(01:11:53):
two, generally you want quartersto use vending machines.
But, like I said, we live in adigital era where now vending
machines take the card or youcan even use your phone now and
do and do a little tap play so Imean, why not like that would
be awesome.

(01:12:14):
I'm curious do women know thatthey wear too much makeup?
No, I don't think well, becauseyou know what I'm talking about
like I know, women in generalwear makeup and women wear it in
moderation.
But the women out there thatjust just cake it on their face

(01:12:35):
like do they not know thatthey're using?

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
no, they know they're using that much, but they're
more concerned, I think, aboutlike covering whatever
imperfections they're trying towork on but doesn't that just
like the amount you put on yourface?

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
doesn't that just bring more attention to your
face?
And do women not think thatlike?

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
are they just so?
Because even men like and some,like you know, like even in the
hispanic culture like, ifyou're used to seeing her with
makeup on, when you finally seeher without it, you're like whoa
, like you now want her to wearmakeup all the time, like
because that's what you're usedto seeing yeah, but that isn't

(01:13:17):
that kind of tricking the guy.
Anyways, like because some guysknow, like aaron will say like
she has a lot of makeup on.
I know she's trying to hidesomething, but she looks very
pretty with makeup on, so youknow like you.
You know what you're signing upfor.
So it's more you know, like ifshe wears a lot of makeup, she's

(01:13:39):
always going to wear it, she'snot going to walk around without
it.
Some women, like I, havefriends who will not leave the
house without makeup on.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
I don't get it.
And do you think it's because,once they started to do it in
the past, they just do itautomatically.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
now, it's true, they told me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
They're like once, you always do it automatically.
Now, it's true, they told methey're like once you start
wearing it, you always need it,like you.
Just you have now you have towear it.
I don't, I don't know, like it.
I don't know if it just bugs meor maybe because, like jessica,
she doesn't, at least in myeyes, at my opinion.
I don't think she needs to wearmakeup to look good and for the
most part, she, you know shewears makeup, but like you know,
but when I'm thinking about youknow what I'm talking about

(01:14:25):
it's the women that just Somemen don't care, they just think
like she's beautiful.
I mean maybe from afar, but whenyou get close, like you could
take your finger and just like,almost like just swiping a cake,
like you get all that frostingon you, like that's how I feel.
Some of these women, at leastthe women that I'm thinking in
my head and and I'm thinking tomyself, like are men not telling

(01:14:50):
these women, or our friends orfamily, not telling women that
they wear too much makeup?
I don't know.
Like do you think of?

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
like if your cousin was wearing too much makeup,
like just like a crazy amount ofmakeup, would you not tell her
like, hey, you need to calm downthe makeup, it looks bad you
can, but people who wear like, alot of makeup they're not going
to, Because once you startwearing it, your face starts to
like change to where, like, youhave to wear it.

(01:15:22):
So they're not, they're justgoing to be like okay, that
sucks.
But they're still going to wearit because they know you can't
go without it.
Now, that's what I've been told.
Women who wear like makeup,like, regardless the amount of
it, like I have to wear itbecause, like now, my face has
molded to where, like, if Idon't wear it, I don't look like
me at all.

(01:15:43):
Like I have to wear it.
Like I have to wear it.
Like that's just how it is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Like I've seen like the transformation of people, of
women who will take theirmakeup off and yes, I agree that
some women they kind of don'tlook like what they do with
makeup and I get that.
So you're telling me that it'sat one point it was, it was a

(01:16:12):
necessity to cover up something,but you get so used to it that
now it just becomes a mentalthing, to where you came and go
through a day without putting iton.
And so now in your mind it's anecessity, for not even for a
specific reason, it's just mything to do every single day

(01:16:36):
mm-hmm, like I would have that'swild.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Like if they don't have lashes it's the end of the
world.
Like they have to have theirlashes every day.
Rather, it's the install or thestrips um mascara, their
eyebrows done.
Like that is their life.
Like they wake up to do theirmakeup, even if it's just to go

(01:17:00):
to work.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Like they have to so do you think someone who goes
through life kind of at an earlystage, who doesn't get into
makeup, do you think they justthey never will?
I don't know, I'm just tryingto wrap my brain around it
because I know so okay, so thosegirls that have to put makeup

(01:17:23):
on, have they been puttingmakeup on since?
like a young high school yeah,and so it just stuck.
And so they spend all thismoney, spend all this time, and
they know maybe not all of them,but they know they wear an
excessive amount of makeup, butthey still do it every day, no

(01:17:45):
matter what.
It is crazy Like how does thatnot affect?
Like I know you got to wipe itoff, but like laying on a pillow
or I don't know resting yourhead on the guy's pants or
putting your head on theirshoulder nowadays that's, it
doesn't really yeah, so likeback then.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
Yeah, but makeup has changed, so nowadays that like
it doesn't smudge as much andthen it depends on the amount,
how much you know, like.
You know like a little bit goesa long way.
So it's like it's trial anderror where you learn like, oh
my god, I don't have to use asmuch as I used to anymore, like
I really do, just need a little,because if I use too much it

(01:18:27):
will smudge.
So it's like makeup has changedwhere, like, you know you can,
you know, you know your makeupwon't smudge.
But it's like people who wearmakeup they know what outfits to
wear.
Or you know, like, if I'm inthis sweater, I can't come out
of it because I know I got totake it off.
You know, they know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
So it's like they've been wearing it for so long.
They know how to sit.
You know like.
Wear what, what not to wear,you know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
Jesus Christ, it's hard being a woman in it.
Geez like, just like I couldn'teven imagine going through the
day just in, like, likeproactively planning my day
because of the, the makeup thatI got on or the outfit that I
got makeup change, so most ofthe time people still wear
whatever, like it doesn't smearall right.

(01:19:15):
Well, that's pretty interesting.
That was just kind of like oneof the um, the small things that
I was thinking about.
Appreciate you.
Coming back on.
I think this went, if notbetter than just as good as our
last episode.
Like I said, the first episodeit was kind of everywhere.
I was using videos that peoplecouldn't even see.

(01:19:39):
So I think this was morestructured.
I think it's going to flow alot better and, like I said, I
appreciate you taking the timeto come out again and helping me
out and jumping back on theshow.
So I had a good time.
I learned some stuff, had acouple laughs, so I'll say it
again, I appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
I appreciate you.
Who says that?
Dj Kelly?
Oh yeah, he's like I appreciateyou points to you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
I appreciate.
I haven't heard from that guyfor a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
I think he just produces music.
Maybe he doesn't rap anymore,right?
Some songs be like DJ Kelly.
I think he just produces music.
Maybe he doesn't rap anymore,right, Some songs be like DJ
Kelly.
I think he just produces now.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
That makes sense.
He's probably making more money.
It's probably easier to juststay behind the scenes, take the
credit and just make more moneythat way, All right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
I appreciate you too.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
I appreciate you, I appreciate you All right.