Young, Wild, and Free w/ Caleb

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
As a saying goes, it ain't cocky if you back it up.
This is Confident, not Cockythe show where bold
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Hosted by Charles Campos Jr,this podcast brings you
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So get ready for a ride that'sas fun as it is real.

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So get ready for a ride that'sas fun as it is real.
This is Confident, not Cocky,and this is your host, charles
Campos.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Jr.
Oh right, welcome back everyone.
Happy New Year's 2025.
Get it going.
I'm happy to be sitting withsomeone who I've been trying to
get on the show for a while now,but you know, life happens,
things come up, people get busy.
But go ahead and share with theaudience who you are.

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My name is Caleb.
Okay, now say it again, butwithout the question.
Oh, my name is Caleb Perfect,all right.
So we name is Caleb Perfect,all right.
So we've known each other for acouple of years and the reason
why I've been trying to get youon this show is because I've
heard you've got crazy storiesand I've heard you've lived a

(01:42):
pretty interesting and crazylife, and you're not even that
old.
How old are you?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
No, I just turned 25.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, so you're still a youngin'.
I got 10 years on, you, am Iright?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, yeah, like 10 years.
You looked confused there.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, I'm 35, if you didn't know that by chance yeah,
10 years.
But anyways, it's 2025, new newyear.
Let's jump right into it um,give me your most craziest,
funniest, unbelievable story.
I know I kind of put you on thespot here yeah, I'm trying to

(02:19):
think of something that's like,like, appropriate.
I don't really have any type ofcensorship.
I cuss.
Uh, we we've talked aboutsuicide, we've talked about
trans people, we've talked about, oh there's, there's really no
limit yeah, um, I think crazieststory like everybody always

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wants to hear.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Uh, when I got my ear bit off by a crackhead.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
What part of the ear, like the lobe or the upper part
.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
He had like a real weird overbite, so like he got
like real gnarly on the frontand then just like a little bit
in the back, I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
I guess like well, you got long hair, so it's
always covered, so I guess Inever noticed that.
Okay, so continue.
So somebody took a bite on yourear.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah.
So me and my buddies all wentto the Badlands and then we're
on our way back and I had atruck that we were hauling all
the equipment down, orfour-wheelers and stuff.
So we pull in this driveway andthere's this girl that my buddy
brought with as like a doubledate.
It was terrible.
And so as soon as we pull in,she waits.

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She's like I want to go home,can you take me to my car?
I'm like, yeah, no problem.
So I back out with the trailerstill on and I go, pull down the
road.
Like 100 yards from my houseand I live in the middle of
nowhere.
There's a truck sitting in themiddle of the road, all lights
off, and uh, I pull up, flashthe lights, nothing.
Uh, he waves his arm to likekind of tell me go around.

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And I'm like, uh, hey, dude,can't get around you.
And he weighs on me again.
I'm like what the heck?
So I honked a horn, nothing.
Waves on me again.
I'm like there's a ditch onboth sides, I can't go around
you.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
So, uh, I lay on the horn and I had train horns so I
flipped the switch like so atrain horn, so it's not like one
of those, like it's a differentfrom an air horn no, it is an
air.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
So that's what you call a train horn.
Yeah, okay, so you?

Speaker 2 (04:22):
got what like a couple train horns on top of the
, on top of the truck oh no, Ihad a toolbox in the back and
they were mounted to that.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Oh no, shit, okay, yeah, all right, go ahead.
So, um, I laid on them, did notlet it off and for like a few
seconds.
Like, yeah, I just let it eat,yeah, and um, so this dude gets
out like six foot five.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
So wait, so you guys pull over.
No, no, we're still in themiddle of the road.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Oh shit, yeah, there's ditches on both sides
and he gets out like six footfive and he was butt naked.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Really yeah, no clothes on, no clothes on, no
clothes on.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
So he comes up and my window's down, I don't even
know what to say, and he justtells me.
He says, dude, we got a fuckingproblem.
And I was like, yeah, dude, getthe hell out of my truck.
So I pushed him so your windowwas down.
He comes up on you and you justpush him.
Yeah, and they were crankwindows, so I had no chance, All
right go ahead and he must havelike skinned something when he

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came down, because when he gotback up he was mad, oh, so he
fell into the ditch.
Yeah, I pushed him.
He fell down butt naked, dude,you know he hit something and he
gets up, starts trying to hitme through the window.
So I'm trying to get out of thetruck and I hand my buddy my
gun.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, I didn't want to crack head, get my gun.
Okay, yeah, I didn't want tocrack head, get my gun.
Yeah, of course.
So, uh, I get out andeverything he's on the ground
and I tell him I'm like hey,dude, we're good you done.
He's like yeah, yeah, I'm done,like cranked out is it like a
old like?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
is he in his 40, 50s or is he like?

Speaker 3 (05:57):
he was like barely older than me.
Okay, so all right.
Yeah, old enough to bite crack?
Yeah, of course.
So I open the door and I tellmy buddy he was a boxer for like
10 years, didn't help me, hejust watched the show.
Yeah, dude, I'm out theregetting messed up.
He didn't even care.
So I tell him like hey, connor,call the before I say fucking

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cops, this dude jumps on my backbutt naked, butt naked, all
right and latches onto my earare you serious?
and it just latches on and I'mlike I'm freaking out, panicking
, don't know what to do.
So I slow down and I'm like,all right, well, I'll shove my
thumb in his eye.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
It's not like.
I don't know why.
I thought you're gonna saysomething.
No, dude, I was like damn okay,right up the butthole.
No, okay, all right, go rightinto the eye.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
And it's not like in the movies, dude so it went like
a shark dude it like went underhis eye and I wanted to puke so
now all right, I'm freaking out, I'm frantic, I'm like, please
get off of me, please go for me.
So, uh, he gets off.
I'm bleeding like profusely, ifthat's a word and um you, you
use that correctly.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
You know $50 word, don't ask me to spell it and he
walks away and he calls me apussy and then drives off like
slow, and that was that.
Yeah, just real dramatic.
Well, I go to the hospital andthey told me they couldn't
stitch my ear up until the copsgot there because they had to
take pictures.

(07:25):
Oh Well, they could.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Well, I guess the cops have to take the pictures,
right?
The hospital couldn't takepictures and then sew your ass
up, dude, they could have doneit with an Android and I'd be
fine with it.
I know right, you just get itdone, yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
So that sucked.
I didn't like that.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
So how long did you sit there with your?

Speaker 3 (07:42):
I'm assuming they stopped the bleeding somehow and
just put a bunch of like cottonon there, came in like, sprayed
it off with some like coldwater or something.
Yeah, it wasn't a good time.
How long were?

Speaker 2 (07:52):
you sitting there before the cops got there like
two hours.
I'm like because were you likein a small town or like a
populated area at that point?

Speaker 3 (08:00):
uh, the hospital was like to me the ghetto, but um,
like a heavily populated yeahtown, I guess okay, so it took
them two hours.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
They had.
They took pictures of your ear.
Yeah, I'm assuming you made areport on this guy.
Yeah, yeah, did you.
Did anybody get his?

Speaker 3 (08:18):
license plate number or anything.
So he was.
Uh, he was three rooms downfrom me, no, yeah, so was he
really?
Yeah, and he said he was thevictim.
No shit.
I'm like bro, I'm missing anear bro.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
No way.
So he was.
So did they arrest him?
Yeah, and it took like a month.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
To what To arrest him ?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, he was just out and about no shit, yeah, so how
did you, did they call you andbe like, hey, we finally
arrested the guy, or how did youknow he got arrested a month
later?

Speaker 3 (08:47):
I'd seen his mugshot.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Oh, for real, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
It was like a month later and then they reimbursed
me for my $400 ER visit.
That was it.
Oh, the town did yeah.
No, maybe it was Either thetown or maybe his insurance
perhaps the town, or maybe hisinsurance yeah, perhaps well, he

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had to go to anger management,uh he drug rehab, because they
told me all the different thingsthat he did and um, he had
probation.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
So was he on drugs?
Like did you get an officialreport that he was on drugs that
night?

Speaker 3 (09:20):
well.
So the cop comes in and helooks at me, says I thought
you'd be'd be bigger.
And I'm like why?
And I guess I'm tuning him uppretty good, yeah.
And the cop tells me, he saysyeah, he failed a drug test.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Oh shit.
So he was on something clearly.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, yeah, I tell everyone crack.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Probably is what it is.
I mean the fact that you'resitting in your truck butt naked
.
I mean that's got to be high onsomething.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah, that's like a you know just one in God moment.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
So you're 25.
How long ago was this?
I was 20.
So about five years, so noteven that long ago.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
No, no, not like I can't wear a motorcycle helmet
or nothing.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Why Does it?

Speaker 3 (10:00):
hurt.
Yeah, dude, oh, so it stillhurts.
Yeah, dude, oh so it stillhurts.
Yeah, like I can't even make aphone call, I got to do it on my
other ear, no shit.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
So you got long-term basically injury from this.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, it's not about soon.
I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
I was going to say.
I mean, if it's been that long,clearly you have some kind of
nerve damage.
I would assume.
I mean, I'm not a doctor, butshit.
I mean, if it still hurts justto put a phone up to it, then
clearly they jacked it up.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Well, it was like the doctor.
They told me that they thoughtlater on they were going to have
to come in and take it off thewhole way.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
What were you thinking at that point?
I would be freaking out dude.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Dude.
I was like I ain't never goingto get overalls.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Dude, dude.
Be a lopsided walking funny man, head tilted, although always
got neck pains.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
You'd really have to sue somebody, so, but when they
told you that were you just likefreaking out that you might
lose your ear yeah, I mean, Ihad that clarity moment where,
like I was like it'd be kind ofcool, you know I'd look like a
badass, and I was like no, didyou have long hair back then as
well?
No, no, easy access, high andtight.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, he was just in there, easy access.
Yeah, I like that man.
So what happened with thefriend?
Did he say why he didn't helpyou?
Was he just like in that flightor fight mode where he was just
in flight mode and didn't knowwhat to do or didn't want to
help like did you ask him heybro, why didn't you help me?

Speaker 3 (11:26):
oh, um, I don't really think I ever asked him
really.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, I'd be hella pissed dude.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
The thing that burns in my mind is, uh, his face
while he watched the guy bite myear like it, just just pure
shock I mean I I get it because,like I said, people have that
flight or fight in them.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Some people, when they get even like a simple
confrontation, people don't knowhow to act or people will get
like frozen and shit.
So I mean I get it to the point.
But if you're my boy, I'm likedude, you're gonna let this
naked ass dude, jump on me,fucking balls and penis all on
my back and shit.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
That's where he drew the line.
Yeah, he was like I got you,bro, but the clothes I drew the
line.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
I didn't want to accidentally touch his pee-pee
or nothing.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah, I'm like fuck you, dude.
He knew what he had to do.
Grab a twist, oh that's sickdude he could have been a boy
you know it's you.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
you might think this is kind of fucked up, but I was
thinking about this because youknow I go through tiktok all the
time and scrolling andscrolling and I don't know what
it is and I might get some shadefor this.
But but you know what reallybothers me?
Low-key Midgets or, I'm sorry,little people, little people.

(12:54):
Little people.
I don't know what you call them,and it's not that I am scared
of them or I discriminateagainst them or like scared of
them, or I just discriminateagainst them, like I mean, I if
I see one on the street I'm notgonna like run up and punch them
in the face like there's nohate about it, but I don't know

(13:14):
like something about them likebothers me and it's not like a
like uh type of feeling, butit's just like man, like they're
so short, like the way theyhave to function and the way
their bodies build, and and thenyou see a lot of them have like

(13:37):
families and then I don't know,I guess I I feel bad a little
bit when they have like babies.
And obviously when you have, youknow, two little people, I
don't know if it'sscientifically just a hundred
percent that they're gonna haveanother little person when they
give birth, but chances are high, I assume.
And the kids grow up andthere's babies, you know one,

(13:59):
two years old, and they got allthese complications.
It takes longer there for themto learn how to walk compared to
the normal person.
I'm like man and you know what?
I'm just gonna go out and sayit like I get two people who
love each other and they want tohave a baby.
I mean, that's just normalhuman like feeling, but it's

(14:20):
like man like why would twosmall people, I guess, do that
to another person?

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Like you know, have a baby.
So what do you got to tell yourlove one day Give them those
complications purposely, Like?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
I don't know, I might sound like a jerk for this, but
it's 2025.
I'm going to speak my mind.
I got a platform.
I got someone who here sittingacross from me.
I'm going to speak my mind.
I got a platform.
I got someone who here sittingacross from me.
I'm going to just say what's onmy mind.
I take notes of just all therandom shit that I think about
during the week and I'm justgoing to throw them out there.

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But, I guess for my question foryou do you think you would ever
get with a small person?
I mean like get?

Speaker 3 (15:05):
with a small person.
I was praying this was going tocome up.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
I was praying, see, and I don't know this story.
So this is just.
I was just curious, because youlike to party, you like to
explore.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, we get around.
Yeah, christopher Columbus man.
Yeah, I'm an explorer.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Okay, so do you have a story of this situation
happening already, or what doyou got?

Speaker 3 (15:25):
No, I've never slept.
We're talking about sleep,right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah no, no, I'venever slept with a midget One,
I've never had the opportunity.
Okay, not saying like that'sthe real problem.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
No, I know.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
I don't think I could dude.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
You don't think so.
I don't think I could do it.
Okay, I get the height I get.
But I mean, if you're talkingabout like a 25, 30 year old
little person, I mean theirfeatures are pretty distinctive
of being of an adult you know.
But you know, I mean like Idon't think I could do it, so
it's the height issue really foryou yeah, dude, like I can't do

(16:03):
it I mean, don't get me wrong,there are some very oh yeah,
good looking little people.
I mean just going throughtiktok and stuff like there's
some really pretty, um, littlepeople, women, out there.
But what gets me is like justthe way their arms are, I mean
and of course they can't controlthat, so obviously you don't, I
don't hold nothing against them, but it's just, let's's just

(16:26):
call it like a preference.
I mean clearly, I mean just theway their body's shaped and the
way their bones are.
It's just.
It's like you look at the faceI'm like, oh wow, she's really
pretty.
And then you get below the neckI'm like, oh man, those legs
are bowlegged some.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
It's like skipped.
A man must have missed you knowyou're right.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
And then I think there's some people who have
that gene in them, but it's notlike 100, and then they grow to
be somewhat normal.
There's, uh, little people whohave like full, grown like six
feet.
You know kids that grow up tobe that tall, totally normal,
and then their brother or sisterwill be a little person.

(17:09):
So like it's with anything like.
It's a gene thing.
You know, things get passed onto your children.
Some things may get skipped andall that, but I I think what
this stems from for me is just apreference.
You know, like you said, it'slike the height, like you're not
saying that person's not aperson.

(17:30):
That's why I don't want tosleep with her.
It's just something about theheight doesn't do it for me.
Same thing with like and I'llask you would you ever sleep
with a trans person?

Speaker 3 (17:45):
I think I'd sleep with the midget first but I mean
, we're talking like can't tell.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Well, let's put it this way, let's say post-op,
post-op let's say post-op, tolet you know are they courteous?

Speaker 3 (18:00):
are they courteous?

Speaker 2 (18:01):
I would hope so that would be the courteous thing to
do yeah let's say yeah liketransition, looks good she's.
They say they're post-op.
Yeah, do you still take thatroute?

Speaker 3 (18:13):
oh, dang dude.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Okay, I ain't even gonna like, let's put it this
way if we're real quick beforeyou answer and people know about
it everybody knows, yeah welllike everybody.
I mean like with your innercircle, maybe a couple people at
work, oh, I thought she waslying to everybody.
Huh, I thought maybe she waslying to everybody and I'm not
saying she's gonna post it onthe internet and thousands of
people are gonna know this, butI'm just saying one night you go

(18:36):
out, she tells you you hook upand it's just eventually just a
story you either tell or peoplefind out.
Would you?
Would that change your mind atall?

Speaker 3 (18:45):
I don't know, dude, like this 2025, you could always
pull that card.
You could take her to a bar,get hammered, blame it on that,
but like, by the time you havegrandkids, dude, they might
think you're cool, you know whatI mean.
They might think you're cool,like you have back in the day,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
I diddled that a little bit.
Yeah, I got with terry.
Yeah, but you don't think thatwould mess with your head at all
, thinking like man, everythingon the surface is cool, but it's
like you're like you're pumping, you're like this is a dude,
you don't think that would throwoff.
I think maybe if that came intoyour head that might throw you
off.
But like you, if you're at thebar you're drinking, you're
liquored up a little bit, youmay not even care.

(19:29):
But what if that next morningand they don't got that makeup
on?
Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Them 3 am thoughts are different.
That Adam's apple is rightthere.
Yeah, you just roll her over.
God, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Here's the thing.
I think a more realisticquestion would be like what if
you found out after?
Would you be mad Like me if Ifound out after?
I think I would be mad I would.
But I think if someone came upto me like 100% honest was like
yo post-op.
I'd be like hey, we can befriends, but like no, I can't.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
You know what I mean, Because, like inside my head.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
I would just know.
It would be like a mental thingfor you yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
and it would kind of suck.
I'd be like, wow, like you everhave those friends who will
like show you a picture and belike, would you hit that?
And you're like heck, yeah,yeah, of course, all the time,
yeah, and I was like or?

Speaker 2 (20:21):
even people who are pre-op and they look like damn,
that's a beautiful woman, yeahthat's a guy.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Oh shit, yeah, I just let them know my.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
My answer did not change, so do you think the way
you talked about it and you saidit as far as your mindset, do
you think that makes youtransphobic?
I'm just curious, just to askSome people do Some people think

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, because since you don't prefera trans woman, that makes you
phobic?
I can't think that's dumb?
I think so too.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
It'd be like I got friends that they like guys.
I don't know what we can say onhere.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Anything Okay.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
I got gay friends.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
It just is what it is .

Speaker 3 (21:15):
And I don't want to sleep with them.
I don't want to sleep with anyguy.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Right because, it's a preference right.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, and some people are like oh well, that means
you're homophobic.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
See, I hate that argument yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I'm like I'm not avoiding him.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
I mean like we're cool, we're tight.
Well, I'm tight, you know.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
And that's the way it's going to stay then, yeah,
yeah yeah so, but that's likethe problem with those everyone

(21:51):
and it's no, it's not.
Yeah, it's becky who's straightand goes to community college.
She's pissed about it.
I know, right, and a lot of thegay people are like speaking
out on it because trans folk ornot, sorry, trans, uh gender
people are assuming that's theissue.
They're like well, people aretransphobic because they don't
want to be with a trans woman ora trans man.
I'm like no, it's just just apreference, just like how you
said you could be a, there couldbe a gay guy right next to you,
but if you don't want to sleepwith them, it's because one,

(22:14):
you're straight and two.
You prefer a woman.
What'd you say?

Speaker 3 (22:17):
oh, I said because he's not right rules no, but
yeah, that that's.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
That's such a stupid argument and that's kind of the
downside of people having accessto platforms.
I mean, look at me, it wasn'tvery hard for internet and a
phone or tablet, you couldcreate a TikTok account or a
YouTube account and express allthe damn opinions that you want.

(22:43):
And it's also like because doyou?
Are you going back to workingout?
Because I know, like last year,you're really big into it.

(23:03):
Have you gotten back into ityet, or no?

Speaker 3 (23:08):
I'm going to be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
I want to, but my schedule doesn't allow it.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
No, that's fine, but what I wanted to bring up is
because remember back when youwere going, we were talking
about all the stuff you werehearing from this guy and that
guy.
Well, there's like the gymcontent, especially on TikTok,
is so over diluted thateverybody and their uncle thinks

(23:37):
that they're a fitness expert.
You'll have one person say thisand then you'll'll have another
quote-unquote expert say thatthat guy's bullshit and it's
really this.
And then you'll have anotherguy say, well, person B is kind
of right, but it's really this.
It's so hard to take the wordof anybody and that's why I get

(24:04):
pissed off when I watch thesetiktoks like I rather watch
people post their progress andtheir lifts, stuff like that.
Talk about that.
Six months ago I was here.
Now I'm here and I'm makingprogress, rather than all these
people who are usually jackedtalk about, well, if you want to

(24:26):
get big shoulders, you have todo do this.
But the thing is, think aboutit this way.
Okay, so say, two years fromnow, I get jacked like I look
good, fucking mr olympia type.
Shit.
Yeah, I could literally go inthe gym record myself and do the
goofiest lift that I couldthink of and just tell anybody.

(24:47):
Hey, if you want to work yourtriceps, do this lift instead.
And then a 16-year-old who wantsto get into fitness watches my
video and then goes to the gymand try to do that workout and
it's not benefiting him.
And try to do that workout andit's it's not benefiting him.
If anything, it's justbenefiting me or the person

(25:08):
that's doing the content just toget clicks.
So I don't know what your FYIpage is.
Mine is usually just like well,recently been a lot of like gym
stuff.
But I mean, what do you think?
Do you have like a certainhobby or anything or certain
stuff that comes on your page?
And you have like a certainhobby or anything or certain
stuff that comes on your pageand you're like this guy's

(25:28):
bullshit, or I've heard thatthis guy say bullshit about this
, or what's your?
Is your page just cars?

Speaker 3 (25:34):
um, most of it's like trucks and uh, fitness and
everything.
Uh, the only thing that sucksabout fitness is this stuff.
This stuff can like negativelyaffect somebody.
Yeah, I agree, you're puttingout misinformation.
Now we got people like tearingsucks about fitness.
Is this stuff?
This stuff can like negativelyaffect somebody?
Yeah, I agree, you're puttingout misinformation.
Now we got people like tearingmuscles or uh, like promoting a
diet that's so unrealistic, like, uh, everyone's on liver King

(25:55):
right now.
Um, oh, yeah, I remember thatguy.
Uh, well then you got peoplepromoting these, these diets
that like can destroy your, uh,your thyroid and stuff.
Yeah, and I'm like dude, youcan like really like hurt people
, but that's the thing it theydon't care they just want views,
they want clicks, they wantviews.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
And then you get people who sponsor whatever
pre-workout or gear or gearmeaning like clothes and as long
as they're getting thousands ofviews a day, they don't care,
and that's what's fucked up, andthat's why there's a big
positive of having accessibleplatforms like this where you
could post it on the internet.

(26:36):
And then there's also the bignegative where people are just
trying to get clicks and makesome money.
It's stupid and it's alwaysgoing to be that way as long as
we have easy access to tiktok,youtube, podcasts, whatever it
may be.
I mean, there's people who goto campuses and set up a table

(27:00):
and they'll talk all politicalstuff, and I get it, and some
say it's about education and youknow what?
We don't even have to go downthat route, because that's going
to be a whole big, a whole bigthing that I really don't even
want to get into.
But have you heard and I thinkthis just kind of unraveled a

(27:22):
few days ago, so I might belittle late, but have you heard
about the pregnant woman thatwas stabbed in Florida over a
shitty tip for delivering pizza?
What, yeah, there was.
I won't put names out there,which I probably should, but it
was her, I believe, her daughterand boyfriend, husband, husband

(27:45):
or whatever it was, and I guessthey were staying in a hotel
like a staycation.
They didn't go anywhere, butthey were around their
neighborhood and they were justtrying to enjoy the the man's
birthday and I guess earlierthat night they ordered a pizza
and I guess they left like a twodollar tip yeah whatever.
I mean if, if you don't want totip, you don't have to tip,

(28:08):
should you tip?
Yeah, most likely, especiallylike a service like that, but
that's a whole nother debate inits own.
But it was a five-year-olddaughter and I guess just right
before midnight they heardsomeone like pounding on the
door.
I'm like, you're at a hotel,I'm like, and who knows what
kind of hotel this was.
This could have been like theritz inn and nice as hell, or it

(28:31):
could have been like a littlerundown hotel so who knows what
kind of hotel it was, but theyheard a banging on the door and
they said that like three peoplecharged in one had like
gunpoint to the daughter.
They made the man go into thebathroom at gunpoint.

(28:51):
I'm like, and you have no ideawhat's going on.
And they said that the, thewoman because I guess it was two
guys and the woman and thewoman just took out a knife and
just started stabbing this, thisother woman, and I guess she
was one month pregnant, but Ithink most of the stabs were

(29:12):
like in the leg, yeah, but shegot stabbed 14 times for this
shit, and I guess they evenbecause they were.
You know, you're yelling likewhy are you doing this?
What's going on?
Who are you?
And I guess they verbally toldthis family it's because the
shitty tip that you left meearlier in the night.

(29:32):
And so they, the police,identified the, the stabber.
Her name is brianna avello, sothey got her in custody and I
don't, I don't know what the ifthey've given her a sentencing
probably not, because it's justkind of happened in the last
week, but they got her.
But the thing was is that theywere asking about money and I

(29:55):
guess the men with the guns.
They were asking about money,but in the end, no, they didn't
end up taking the money.
So's kind of makes you thinklike it was a personal, like
vendetta, yeah, but like how thehell, how?
I don't even know what the wordnot shallow or how mentally
unstable do you have to be to belike?

(30:16):
This bitch gave me a $2 tip getoff work, grab some homies and
then go back to the hotel, and Idon't know if she had
intentions to kill them.
I mean, that's pretty fucked up14 stabs or maybe they had the
intention to just rob and likescare the shit out of them.

(30:39):
But the part is like stab, Like, why stab 14 times?
Because I believe it was all inthe leg.
And if you're going to go withthe intention of stabbing like,
why are you not going to go for,like, the chest or the, you
know, the upper body?

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
So that kind of tells me like maybe she didn't have
the intention of stabbing, butthen maybe got in there, shit
went sideways, maybe she was putup a fight and she just boom,
boom, boom, just went ham on theleg and but that's fucked up
Like it's.
It's so scary nowadays that,like you can't even go to a

(31:20):
hotel down the street to justyou know, maybe, who knows, they
probably wanted to use the poolor just hang out, whatever.
But it's scary nowadays thatyou can't even do that without
people having a mental breakdownover something so stupid.
As a low tip, and I guess they,like I said earlier, they

(31:41):
caught the woman, but I believeone of the guys is still out
there.
They haven't caught the otherguy and I mean I get it because
she says that and I quote, I amscared and he knows exactly how
me and my boyfriend looks.
He stared at the man for so longwith the gun pointed to his

(32:01):
head.
I want them to get him as soonas possible because they're
monsters, they should not be onthe street.
I mean, if that man reallywanted to come back, I mean they
know what she looks like, theyknow what the daughter looks
like, you know, they know whatthe guy looks like.
I mean, all you got to do iskind of just do a little
research, see where they live,and from there, like a little

(32:27):
research, see where they live,and from there, like you're kind
of almost living in fear.
Like what do you do in thatsituation?
Like, have you ever been inthat situation where you've
gotten stabbed or in a knifefight or anything?
Have you ever had a gun pointedto your head?

Speaker 3 (32:39):
um, I got carved up with a box cutter once.
Are you serious?
Yeah, so I was working at astrip club.
Wait, wait wait you worked at astrip club.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, as a whatDon't say a bouncer?
No dude, I worked at the doortaking the cards and stuff.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Oh, okay, all right, I was like okay.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Well, it was like a one security I guess and um.
So this guy calls in and he'sasking what the girls do after
they get off.
That's are you?
That's super, yeah, yeah, likelike super sauce like what do
you mean?
They go home like yeah well,that's why I told him I was like
, dude, they, they get in theircar, they get escorted to their
car, all right, and then, uh,they go home and he's like, well

(33:25):
, they don't want to make alittle extra money?
And I was like no dude like thisis Chicago okay.
Like these girls are makingthousands of dollars a night,
they don't want your $750.
And I know what he was wanting,yeah right.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
of course he wanted a little lovely night with a
woman.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Yeah, yeah, he was skunk hunting.
Yeah night with a woman.
Yeah, yeah, he was skunkhunting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was onhole patrol and uh.
So I told him I was like nodude, they don't do that, they
go home.
You know, and I mentioned,that's illegal, that's
prostitution you know, just incase you didn't know.
Yeah, we don't do that.
Yeah.
So, uh, there was this guy thatI worked with.

(34:03):
Uh, his name was Hector, but hewas slightly older than me, so
I called him Uncle Hector, okayOkay.
So he comes up to me.
He's like dude, you wouldn'tbelieve this.
There's this guy asking whatthe girls do after they get off
work.
I was like dude.
I just talked to this guy onthe phone, oh so he called in
again.
Yeah, and then still comes in,oh shit.
And so I go up to him and Itell him like hey, dude, what's

(34:25):
up?
And he tells me he says oh, Iwas just curious what the girls
do after they get off.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
So he's on a mission.
Oh yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah, and I mean like he was ugly.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Like he had to pay for it, yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
And so I kept telling him, like they get escorted to
their car, making sure he knowsthat, and he's like, oh, okay,
okay.
And he tells me.
He says, well, how much is itto get in?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
And I told him 75 bucks, like is this towards like
close to the end of night, oris this like at the peak of the
night?
No dude, it's like 10 o'clock.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Okay, yeah, on a weekday, these aren't even
good-looking girls, you knowwhat I mean?

Speaker 2 (35:03):
It's the B team.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
B team, and so he asked me how much it cost.
I told him $75.
And he's like I thought it was$20.
And I was like then why did youask?

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Wait so were you lying to him?

Speaker 3 (35:18):
about it.
It was not $75.
It was $20.
So you were trying to make somemoney on the side huh well, he
asked me because I was yokeddude, like I'm not a very tall
guy, so 180 pounds, I was kindof intimidating.
I got you and um, so I told himbecause he asked why I was he
was paying 75 and I told him Isaid, in case I gotta kick your

(35:38):
ass.
So he was like real nerdy andeverything and uh he gives me 75
dollars oh shit yeah, he askedfor a manager or nothing.
What a little simp.
So, uh, he had a yellow rainjacket on, like or like a
windbreaker.
Okay, this is very importantthis is why I got stabbed.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
This is crucial to the story.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Yeah, so he uh goes, sits down, drapes his
windbreaker over the back of theseat and he's watching the
girls do their thing.
And then, uh, there was thisgirl, rose.
Uh, that was her stage name, Icalled her rose or rose.
It was just rose and um so Icalled her wolf tits because she
had two wolves tattooed on hertits oh, I thought, because I
don't know why like, did hertits look weird?

(36:17):
yeah, no, no so it had some codetitties or something so she's
walking out and they got to getdressed to walk outside so she
throws on these nasty sweatpantsand like a t-shirt and she's
walking out.
Sure, I was like bye.
And she says I'll be right back.
I'm like right, bye.
So then old fucking creeperwalks out and I was like, hey,

(36:37):
dude, see, uh, he's like bye andI didn't think nothing of it,
so you just stay outside thedoor the whole night, right no?
you'd walk in and, and thenthere was like a little liaison
station, I guess you could callit, so you kind of hung out
there.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, like right by the door, Okay all right, and so
he walks out.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
I'm not thinking none of it.
And then five minutes goes byand I see his windbreaker and
I'm like dude, he is not.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
So I walk outside and sure enough he's, uh, he's
standing there and rose islooking at me like a deer in the
headlights.
Wait, so it is.
Do they not have a back lotwhere the girls park and then
like a front lot for thecustomers?
Or is it just all one lot, alllike one lot, oh shit, yeah, all
right.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
So, um, she's got her like cornered against the car,
okay, like like not, her door'snot open or anything, she's just
like standing by the gas caphe's got her like right there,
dude and um.
So I tell him like hey, dude, Ithought I told you.
And he says I don't want notrouble.
I was like, dude, you're gonnahave to leave.
And he says I gotta get myjacket.
And I was like no, dude, yourjacket's mine, you know, because

(37:41):
I was trying to impress alittle girl, so you know, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
So uh, she's she's looking at me, you know.
And uh, I tell him like yeah,the jacket's mine.
He says, oh, I gotta get it.
I'm like no, dude, I don't care, you better go, I'm gonna call
the cops.
And he says, just let me get myjacket.
I was like no, dude, you're notgetting your jacket.
So he tries to do this like fake, going to the left and then go

(38:04):
to the right thing like a littlejuke move yeah, yeah, he's
trying to break my ankles so Igo to clothesline him and I
thought it'd be like in amovie's no dude like he started
dragging me so I had to eat himon the ground okay and he comes
up and just slices me and Ididn't.
I thought it was like straightup knife.
Where did he get you at?
Uh, in my stomach.
Yeah, like went like up my ribs.
How long are we talking like sixinches, about six inches, damn

(38:27):
okay yeah, so, um, I'm freakingout, you know, flopping on the
ground and uh.
So rose comes over, she's likecomforting me and stuff too.
I thought I was done I thoughthe'd take off.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
He just cut you and took off.
It gets worse.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Okay, go ahead so he calls the cops, he called, he
calls the cops so when the copsshow up and they tell him like
hey, man, you know we're goingto get this all put away.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
So he's stuck around?
Yeah, he's stuck around Becausehe called the cops.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah yeah, yeah, oh, it gets bad.
That's bad, dude.
Okay.
So I'm sitting there thinkinghe carved me up.
Real good, man.
You're like my attempt iscoming out.
I'm sure I'm bleeding.
Real bad.
She's like comforting me, dude.
Yeah, I was not having it.
So, um, she probably thought Iwas her hero or something right.

(39:12):
So the cops telling her likehey, we're gonna get this all
squared away.
Um, we're gonna need to knowwhat happened.
We're gonna make a policereport.
And um, they said we're gonnaget one from him.
He called it in.
I said that's a motherfuckerstab, stabbed me.
And they were like no, I waslike yeah.
So then I had to explain tothem that the reason why I got
stabbed was because I was anasshole.
I could have just let him gethis jacket, but the pride set in

(39:35):
.
I had to be all macho.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
At the time you saw a situation where you could have
said that I felt that myemployee or she felt threatened,
and so you took action.
So I mean you, I think you, youwould add a valid yeah reason
for that yeah, yeah so what dothey?

Speaker 3 (39:53):
right away cuff them oh yeah, dude, like straight on,
to get straight on the spot.
They're fucking.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
He was in handcuffs oh, it's good you got her as a
witness.
Do you guys have surveillance?

Speaker 3 (40:02):
cameras?
Yeah, they had cameras and okay, so it was locked in and you
would have been everyone to seeme hit the ground like a bitch
dude, it was bad you got stabbed.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
I would fall like a bitch too, and I thought it was
way worse but you know, I meanlike, can you imagine?
I can't.
I've never been stabbed before.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
I'm like this guy's threatening you telling you
can't go get your jacket?
You carve a wall, you carve.
I didn't even put up a fightdude.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
But first of all, who takes a box cutter to a strip
club?
That kind of tells me he mighthave had ill intentions if he
kept calling about a girl andthe girls, oh dude.
Like you know, if you bring abox cutter to the club with your
intentions of trying to take agirl home, like it'll be one

(40:44):
thing if they found fucking liketape and rope in his car or
some shit.
But I mean, like what kind ofprotection?
Like I can understand, like apocket knife, but that kind of
sounds like he just went on awhim, grabbed the first thing in
his junk drawer or box cutterand like let me see what's going
to happen.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
He might have been working class dude.
You know, he just got gottawork.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
That's scary man, so how long?
So how long after that did youstay at that club like, did you
say fuck this, I ain't doingthis job anymore and just left?

Speaker 3 (41:15):
well, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Whenever one at work thinksyou're a bitch, uh, you gotta
leave.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
You gotta leave but I mean, do they really?
I mean, you're kind of, likeyou said, almost a hero.
I mean, he had her cornered andyou stepped in, but they don't
see that aspect of it.
They just think of you fallinglike a bitch.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty much the extent of it.
I mean, if you work with yourbuddies, they definitely think
you're a bitch.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
So how long did you do that for?

Speaker 3 (41:47):
I didn't know you ever worked.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
I'm assuming you were over 21 yeah, I was over 21, so
this is a few years ago.
Yeah, you know what's funny wecould have a like a five hour
conversation between me and youand you could probably tell like
a hundred stories and you'd belike, yeah, all the, all this
stuff happened in the last fiveyears.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Well, and I would believe it, most of them, most
of it happened before I was 22,like when, when I was 22, I just
kind of, like you know, gottired of being a dumbass.
Yeah, I started being dumb at ayoung age, it is you know
speaking of, and I'm verycurious.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
I don't think we've ever talked about this and we
don't have to go into no crazysubject about it.
But like, what was yoursituation?
Let's just, let's just start ata high school.
So you graduated high school,Do you have I'm assuming you
have parents around this area,right?

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Yeah, I mean I live about an hour from here, but
yeah, both my parents are stillmarried.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
So was it one of those things where you were
either maybe kicked out at ayoung age, or did you just want
your dependence or independenceat a young age and you just left
, or like, how long did you stay?

Speaker 3 (42:50):
with your parents before you got your own place.
Um, they kicked me out a coupletimes before I graduated.
Oh, so they kicked you out,yeah it isn't pretty dumb stuff
were you just like a rebel backin high school well, it was bad
because, um, they were allfocused on my sister my sister,
she's like 13 months older thanme and they were all focused on
my sister my sister, she's like13 months older than me and they
were all worried about her notbeing a fuck-up.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
I'm sorry not to interrupt.
So you have.
I know you have a brother, soyou have a sister too.
I got two sisters.
You got two sisters.
Are you the youngest?
No, I'm.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
You're in the middle.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Yeah, basically Because I know you, the brother
is older, right older right yeahyeah, okay, so you're in the
middle.
Okay, so I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
So they were concerned about your one sister
right, yeah, like they alreadythought I was a fuck up you know
, so they already deemed you asa fuck yeah, yeah, yeah, I was
outcasted.
They were like your own prisonlike, were you like?

Speaker 2 (43:34):
were you like legitimately committing petty
crimes?
Or you were just like a rebel,like you just always talk back
to your parents and like we'realways, always out of the house,
like drinking and shit.
Like what was the, what was thesituation with you for your
parents to like think you were afuck up?

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Uh, so like I was super respectful to them, like I
didn't talk back or anything,um, but like I like to have fun.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
So like my sister, she got in trouble for having
bad grades, so they're likesitting her down and telling her
the importance of that and,like me and my buddies are
stealing a pop machine, draggingit down the road.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Okay, like on a wednesday night just out of
nowhere, because you grew upwhere?
uh, I grew up in westville alittle farm town so even in high
school, that's where you wentyeah, if I didn't get expelled
for fighting, I pretty much justwent there so how many times
have you been expelled for uh?
So suspended.
Every year they allowed you toget suspended three times and it
was like a three-day suspension.
Each time, the third time wasyour last chance.

(44:36):
If you came to school, didsomething stupid, you were
expelled, so like a three-pointrule, um, but I only got
expelled twice, but I maxed outmy suspensions each year, jesus
yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Each year you did that, yeah, yeah, every year,
fuck dude, until I turned 18.
Did you graduate high school ordo you have a GED?

Speaker 3 (44:55):
No, I graduated.
The guy who let me graduate gotfired for graduating me because
what?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:01):
like some of the points or the credits,
technically, so, technically,next to you, where it says Caleb
graduated, what year did yougraduate?
2018.
So 2018, there's probably likea little asterisk mark next to
it.
Technically he graduated Littlehyphens, little hyphens, yeah.

(45:21):
Okay, I didn't know that, so itwas just more of you, I guess.
Like I said, little pettycrimes here and there having fun
with the boys and, like I said,you lived in a like a farm town
like westville.
From here is how far um like 40miles like going south, right,

(45:42):
uh, east, oh, going east yeah soit's mostly like you said, like
people like your closestneighbor was what?

Speaker 3 (45:49):
maybe like a half mile or some shit like that, or
uh no, I got like a neighbor,like like a normal neighbor,
okay, um, kind of like yourneighbor, and then, aside from
that, they're like miles apartokay, so the the town itself was
just like a really small townkind of spread out.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Oh, I didn't even live in town.
Where'd you live at then?

Speaker 3 (46:10):
I lived on the outskirts.
Yeah yeah, I had to drive to dodumb stuff.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Really.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
So every year you got suspended three times.
But out of the four years youwere there you got expelled
twice.
Yeah, yeah, twice but everyyear, you capped out at the
three.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Damn dude, yeah, I got expelledfor dumb stuff too.
So like one of the principalsgot tired of me and like kind of
had it out for me.
He said that I sung OldMacDonald had a farm, but every

(46:46):
word was gay.
Uh, like over the intercom orsomething.
I was just walking down thehallway and he's like uh, gay,
gay, gay.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Like technically on your file it says you got it uh
expelled for singing old mc, oldmcdonald had a saying gay all
the time.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Yeah, really yeah.
So my mom shows up pissed and Itell her I'm like I did not do
that.
Well, she don't believe me.
She tells them becauseapparently they caught me on
video and they wouldn't do itbecause all the other kids they
were like, oh, we can't show youtheir identity, and all that.

(47:19):
My mom's like well then, I'lljust take them to the school
right down the road, which I waslucky that they even took me,
because they just expelled methe year before.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Did you jump back from high schools?

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah Like throughout the four years.
Oh well, like six years from,like fifth or sixth grade, I
jumped between all of them.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Holy shit, dude.
I didn't know you were that badof a kid.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Oh yeah, it was just here's.
The thing is, you go to a townwhere people are comfortable
like running their mouth.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
And they'll be like I'll meet you outside and I'm
like nah, dude RSVP and I'd hithim on the spot, really yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
So would you say half of those incidents like
suspension expulsions?
Were they like fighting or wasit just like skipping school and
doing stupid shit at school?

Speaker 3 (48:06):
I got in trouble one time because I asked my friend
if I could hit him with a ruler,one of those yardsticks yeah
that was the only time it wasn'tfight related and he said I
could.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
He was like yeah you could hit me with it.
I got damn it.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Yeah, dude just sammy , sosa them with a with a
freaking uh yardstick so you,you know how to brawl.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
I assume, yeah, you've had your shares of brawls
and yeah, so I.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
It was so bad.
I was getting fights all thetime my dad was like we're gonna
, we're gonna put you in boxing.
He's like maybe, if you canfight in a controlled
environment, maybe yeah, yeah,something good.
You're focused to somethinggood, yeah no, I go to school
and fuck people up like how longdid you box for?
Uh, so I boxed for 13 till 19and oh shit.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
I didn't know you had that much experience.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Yeah, COVID ended it.
The gym that I went to closedbecause of COVID.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
No shit.
Did you do any boutscompetitions?

Speaker 3 (48:54):
I did a couple.
Here's the thing You'll get totalk to people and if you boxed,
everyone's done a Golden Glovecompetition.
No, they haven't, especiallyChicago.
Relaxed, everyone's done agolden glove competition.
Yeah, no, they haven't.
Uh, especially chicago.
And uh, I think it's the bronx,brooklyn or something, yeah, um
, anywhere where it's a likehood, environment, ghetto.

(49:17):
Those guys are trying to getout of the hood.
Oh yeah, they are fighters ohyeah, they're scraping yeah, you
they're itching together.
Yeah, like you got to kill themalmost yeah, I got you uh, I
never did a golden glovecompetition, but I'll go to a
bar and you would not believehow many people I meet that are
golden glove boxers.
Yeah, I'm like dude well, what?

Speaker 2 (49:38):
so you said, covid ended it.
Yeah, but what?
Why didn't you get back into?

Speaker 3 (49:44):
it afterwards, I think, when gyms started opening
, right back up.
I think I just got in that caraccident.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Okay, yeah, because this is going on.
What 2021, 2022?
Yeah 2022.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
So just a couple years ago, yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Okay, has it been two years since that accident?
You're talking about theaccident.
We don't have to go intodetails.
You're talking about theaccident.
We don't have to go intodetails, but you're talking
about the accident, where thatwas 2023.
Okay, so the gyms had to openup by 21, ain't it?

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Hey, man, you just kind of yeah, the motivation
wasn't there, yeah, themotivation wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Well then let me ask you this and correct me if I'm
wrong, because I'm just makingan assumption it just maybe
boxing wasn't like a, like a thelove of your life type thing.
It was more of like, well, mydad's kind of making me do it
and I'm having fun because it'skeeping me out of trouble.
Was it that type of mentality,or did you just like, did you

(50:49):
love the sport and just kind oflife kind of happened afterwards
and you just didn't have theinterest to get back into it?

Speaker 3 (50:53):
um, so I I kept doing boxing after I turned 18, uh,
and I probably would still bedoing it if I didn't stop
because of covid.
Yeah, um, just strictly for thereason of like the world was a
really bad place and, I believe,in order to be what people.
I hate when people are like, ohwell, he's a good man.
And I'm like, well, why is he agood man?
Well, he wouldn't hurt a fly.
I'm like, well, that doesn'tmake him a good man.

(51:14):
I think that being a good manis having self-control and being
capable of defending yourfamily and your loved ones, and
stuff like that.
So I was like, okay, andthere's guys out there that can
box and they have noself-control.
They're going in part, likeConor McGregor, they're looking.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Yeah, yeah, and I'm like, in order to be a good man,
I think that you have to becapable of defending the people
you love, like you said,self-control, being humble?

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah, I think yeah, being humble and using your
skills to protect rather thanprovoke and just to show people
that you're a badass.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
I totally understand that.
I get that.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Yeah, if your homie's getting his ear bit off, you
should step in.
You should jump in.
Yeah, you should step in.
Those are one of the good timesyour skills will probably be
helpful at that time.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
No shit, that's pretty cool.
Is there any videos or YouTube?
Probably not YouTube, but doyou have any videos of you
training or matches you did, oranything like that?

Speaker 3 (52:12):
I used to have an Instagram and I think it got
hacked and everything.
But there's a couple videoslike me getting my ass whooped.
I'm not going to lie.
You'll go in like thesepredominantly because that's
where boxing gyms are, isbasically the hood.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yeah, the hood, yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
And you'll go in there and these guys have
something to prove.
They're trying to get out ofthe hood.
This is all they got.
Oh, they live there yeah babyMike Tyson's dude, and I'm just
a farm kid who's?

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Trying to stay out of trouble.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Yeah, trying to stay out of trouble, Like I had no
ambition, Like it was prettymuch it was.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
It was neat to be able to do kind of like a, like
a ripstick or something you know.
Yeah, yeah, I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
I wasn't there because I really wanted to be.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
No, I get it Like cause.
That's kind of like how I felt,because I could relate to that
because in high school myparents rule was like you got to
be in some kind of sport everyseason, like you're not going to
be sitting at a home eitherjust playing video games or out

(53:17):
there causing trouble.
So I had to do a sport everydamn season and I don't know if
you know this about me, but likebaseball, that's like the love
of my life.
I love baseball.
My kids are in baseball.
I love coaching baseball.
That that's my thing.
So baseball season, boom, likeI love it.
But then, like come August,september, I did football, hated

(53:40):
it.
I did wrestling in the winter,hated it, like.
But it was like my mentalitywas like I'm not really trying
to get better, I'm just herebecause I was told to do
something.
So, on that aspect of it,totally understand, but that's a
long time to just be goingthrough the motion yeah I just

(54:02):
showed up yeah, I mean, were youin your opinion?
were you you in your opinion?
Were you like decent?
Were you pretty good?
Were you just like garbage?
And you were just there for thelike.
You were just fit because youwere doing all the working out.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
I had a phase when I was like 15 to 16 where I really
really loved boxing.
But yeah, it was weird becauseI was looking for a purpose and
I already had all this timeunder my belt three, four years,
yeah and I would wake up, gofor a run, hit in a bag, jump

(54:41):
rope.
I was doing all the extra stepslike eat sleep and breathe
boxing.
And that just kind of fell out,because you go into the gym and
there's kids that are startingwhen they're like eight.
Yeah, you know, and they're.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
They're just so predominantly kind of feel like
damn, what's the point for me?
To do it now like I get thatkind of lose the motivation to
to do all the extra stuff it'skind of a silly point of view
now, though, because like, soit's like jake paul.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
I don't like jake paul.
Okay, he's, yeah, but that'sthe problem is like tiktok hate
gets way more attention thanactual skill?

Speaker 2 (55:19):
oh yeah, for sure and uh, jake paul.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
He's got like barely any ring time and he's good like
I will admit he is good, hetrains to be a boxer.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
He just doesn't have the experience that someone
who's been boxing since theywere eight years old.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
For the time that he has in the ring he's good, and
that probably all comes down tohis determination.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
He probably turned the switch on like, look, this
is gonna be my life.
And I don't really know thebackground of jake paul.
I know he did like those vinevideos and he I don't know if he
came for money or not, so hemay.
If he came for money, heprobably had the opportunity to
be like, look, I gotta work, I'mboxing and this is going to be

(56:10):
my job now.
But people sometimes have theluxury of doing that, you know,
like lower class, or the bluecollar person who has a family
already by the age of 22, 23,and they have to work to support
their family.
Can't really be like you knowwhat, I'm going to quit my job

(56:30):
and I'm gonna quit my job andI'm gonna box and I'm gonna try
to be the heavyweight champion.
It's gonna take me four yearswell, no, you can't really can't
really do that, since you havea family to support.
So yeah, I mean it, and it'snot to say that, who knows, and
and I'll say it again becauseI'm repeating myself at this
point it's not to say that ifyou would have stuck with it at

(56:53):
15 or 16, who knows, six yearsfrom there, 22, boxing could
have been your thing, yourmoneymaker, but hey, in
hindsight you never know whatcould have, what should have,
could have type of thing.
Then let's switch it.

(57:13):
So after high school you saidokay, so you did graduate, you
didn't have to get a gd.
Were you out the house by thenby the time you graduated 18?
Or did you leave the house likewere you primarily at the house
before that?

Speaker 3 (57:32):
uh, no, I didn't leave right away, I heck.
I didn't leave until I think Iwas 21.
Okay, um, I think I was justshy of turning 22.
That was.
That was what cool.
My parents didn't really care,uh, they were just like hey yeah
, you're, you're an adult yeahyou figure it out, type of.
Thing yeah, and they theydidn't really push me to get out

(57:54):
or anything, because I didn'tcause problems.
Like after I turned 18 I prettymuch got my my stuff together
settled down yeah and um.
So I kind of gave myself till 22because I was like, okay, well,
people I'm going to school with, they got that four-year buffer
that they're in college.
Yeah, they're getting some ofit, but I'm having fun.
So I was like, yo, I'll have myfun until I'm 22,.

(58:16):
And then you guys strap down.
Sure, so 22,.
I ended up moving to anotherfarm town and I rented a house
there and I lived there for awhile.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
No shit.
So what were you doing for workat the time?
To rent a house?

Speaker 3 (58:31):
um, when I was renting a house, I think I was
working in crown point with you.
Oh, were you?

Speaker 2 (58:36):
yeah, oh shit like I said, I keep forgetting that
you're only 25 years old and alot of this shit it's just
happening in the last, like two,three years yeah okay, so well
then, weren't you in themilitary for a short period?

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Yeah, I went to the Marines.
I got out of high school didn'tknow what I was doing.
I worked at a prison for alittle bit and I remember I was
driving around and I was on myway to a tattoo appointment and
I pulled up to a Walgreens and Iwas just like real down in the
dumps, as odd as it sounds Likeout of nowhere.

(59:17):
I'm 18, got my whole life aheadof me and uh, it just felt like
something was missing.
So I'm sitting in a Walgreensand I look up, uh, navy
recruiting stations near me and,um, I ended up calling a Marine
recruiter on accident cause Ithought they were like yeah, I
thought they were all like inone building, you know like
every branch.
So I called, he answers thephone, he tells me that he's a

(59:40):
Marine recruiter, and then Itell him like oh, I'm looking
for the Navy.
He says nope, not here.
And then he's just like quickto get off the phone.
I was like wait, wait, wait,maybe you can answer some of the
questions I have.
And he's like okay.
So I asked my name, we'retalking a little bit.
He's like what are you doingtomorrow at 4 30?
and I told him I was like oh I'mgoing to a tattoo appointment,
he's like, yeah, cancel that andcome see me.
I'm like, okay, cool, okay,yeah, he hangs up.

(01:00:02):
I'm like I ain't fucking doingthat you know what I?

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
mean so?

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
I go to a tattoo appointment the next day and it
was like 3 30 so they got mestenciled up.
Me and my buddy were gonna getmatching tattoos.
So glad that I did it, becausenow we hate each other, um, and
I told the tattoo artist justtake my down payment and put it
towards his tattoo, whichtechnically she didn't have to
do like it was real cool.
She did that.

(01:00:26):
And I cut out and went to thismarine recruiter uh, do this
quick man, like they, hoodwinkyou.
Next thing you know I'm gonnabust down the maps.
Oh I'm.
And I cut out and went to thisMarine recruiter.
Dude is quick man.
Like hey, hoodwink you.
Next thing you know, I'm on abus down to MEPS.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure they use all types of
tactics Like they're basicallysalespeople.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Oh yeah, and I'm sure they're.
They got a quota.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Yeah, but rather than sell you a car, they're trying
to sell you like a dream.
Oh, I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure.
I'm sure they're aggressive.
Maybe not all of them, but I'msure a lot of them are
aggressive.
A lot of them are like, fasttalking, like are we doing this
now?
We doing this now?

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
I'm like I'm sure, yeah, yeah, like a real pushy
car salesman dude.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
I'm just in the office feeling like a college
girl at a frat party.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
I'm Okay.
So, like I said, I thought youwent to the military, but that
was short-lived and okay.
So then you started workingwhere you're at now, then
speaking of tattoos, becauseobviously we don't have video
but you got a good amount oftattoos.
You probably got more tattoosthan I do.
What is your and I ask thisbecause I know I've heard some
of your funny tattoo stories um,usually I don't hear the whole

(01:01:34):
story.
So what, what do you think isyour best tattoo story?

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
uh, you mean like getting a tattoo?

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
yeah, let's do it this way because I know one of
your stories and I want to hearit again, but let's do.
Yeah, getting a tattoo.
What's one of your funniest orcraziest story for getting a
tattoo?

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Getting them ain't real crazy.
Like I have some crazy tattoos.
Like I got like scrap on my leg, reaching for my nuts.
And then I had one tattooexperience where this guy's
tattooing me and I wanted aRoute 66 sign, I wanted it
realistic, and he's like, yeah,like, yeah, yeah, I can do that.
So he goes back and he comesback with his tattoo and, uh,

(01:02:16):
stencils it on.
So there's like a little bit ofwait time.
I'm looking at it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
I'm like oh, I don't want to tell him that that looks
like shit.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
So, uh, he tattoos me and he's nodding out while he's
tattooing me, like there was atime period, he just like fell
asleep like three minutes, yeah.
And I look at the owner.
I'm like hey, dude.
And he comes over.
He's like hey man, you gottastay awake.
I'm like bro, I'm like bro,you're done right there like
like if he was like up all nightstudying for pre-med or the bar
, I'd have let us slide.

(01:02:45):
This dude was cranked out, dude, he was falling out, um, but
that's like the only tattoo megetting one that was like kind
of weird.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Let's let me ask you this what's your one tattoo that
you regret getting, or is therenot one?

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
oh, so I got one.
Um, so I was about to go in themarines and, uh, about to go to
boot camp.
I had my, my ship date and thegirl that I was dating told me
that basically she was mad thatI was going, which she told me
it was cool.
And, uh, so she tells me, shesays I want to be engaged and I
want you to get my name tattooedon you.
Oh boy, yeah.

(01:03:21):
So I was like I'm not gettingyour name tattooed on me?
And she's like well, you betterfigure something out, otherwise
I'm breaking up with you, and Idated this girl for like three
years three and a half years.
So I got a constellationtattooed on me of her name, like
the stars.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so her name was Aries, oh so you do
have the name.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Yeah, in a way.
So her name was Aries, so Ihave an Aries constellation on
my stomach.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
That's clever, though that's clever.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Now, girls will be down there like, oh, you're an
Aries.
I'm like yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
How about that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
They're down there doing math.
They're like you're aSagittarius.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
I'm like, yeah, whoops, I got the wrong one,
well as many tattoos that you'vegotten just in the last year.
Why not try to cover that up?
Or is it really not that big ofa deal to you?

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Yeah, it's not that deep to me that big of a deal?
Yeah, it's not that deep to me.
I don't think so.
Usually when I'm dating a girl,I'll let them know, because
they always ask, because I don'thave a lot of stomach tattoos.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
I got my chest, arms, legs done yeah and um.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
So they'll ask me, like what's that?
And I'll just tell them, likeyou don't want to find out later
yes, I mean overall, it's notthat big of a deal yeah, they
make it up.
Well, that's stupid, but I meanyeah, they try to get me to
cover it up when I get married,I will yeah, I could see that
being more reasonable yeah Imean, I'm not gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
If I'm date, if I've been dating you for a year and a
half, I'm not gonna like fuckyou, I'm not gonna cover it up
yeah, if we get married, thenthat's one thing.
So, yeah, I get that all right.
So well then, before we get tothe other story, what's your
most favorite tattoo?

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
that you have um.
I got this rose on my hands.
Uh, this is why I wish we hadvideo dude I know that, and when
you're talking about midgets,that was priceless um your your
face like what dude your face oh, we're in depth.
Hey man, I was really thinkingabout it you're over there,
you're like yo dude, like wherewe draw the light, like what's
too far, I know, right, I'm likenah dude all right.

(01:05:12):
So the rose on your hand yeah,so, uh, when my grandma was in
the hospital, I was the only onewho went and seen her and I
brought her pink roses.
So when she passed away, I gota pink rose on my hand.
Oh, no shit, that's dumb.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Yeah, so it's more of a sentimental meaning.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Yeah, that's what's up, but like now, every single
white dude has a rose tattoo ontheir left hand.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
I got a rose tattooed on my forearm for my daughter.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
But it's like hand tattoos, man, everybody does it.
It's copy and paste.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Do you regret?
I mean, because you work in thefield where you use your hands,
you work on machinery Do youregret at all getting hand
tattoos?
Or is it just like no man?
I wanted hand tattoos.
I love them.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Actually, they're probably my favorite because I
got both hands done my knuckles.
They're probably my favoritetattoos, but something like okay
, I try to go to church, likeyou know, find god and be a
better person do?
People in church are ruthlessyeah, hell yeah yeah, so like
then I was like dang dude, Igotta wear gloves go to church.
But like, aside from that, yeahyou know, I love them I don't I

(01:06:15):
got a couple of like prisontattoos.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
I got some bad ones oh yeah, you know what before
you know?
Okay, let's hold that story off.
What I was gonna say was I I dowant to get hand tattoos I
support, support it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
Huh, I support it.
You should do it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
But my fear is, since I am in the supervisory
management position, it may lookdown upon.
I mean because if I wanted towear a nice polo or a long
sleeve, I could cover up mytattoos.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
I don't have any neck tattoos.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
I don't have anything else where you could visibly
see tattoos, but it like man ifI ever got a hand tattoo I mean
that's, that's there for lifelike if I, if I go shake the
ceo's hand, it's like boom, okay, well, I got a tattoo or
something stupid on my hand.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
You just got a certain dominance.
You know you gotta let themknow what's up.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
You're the big dog like kiss the hand yeah no, okay
, but so's get back to so.
We talked about what's on yourbody and what's been put on your
body.
What's the story about youdoing the opposite to other
people?

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
So now I do tattoos.
Okay, like for Christmas, myfamily got me a bunch of
tattooing stuff.
I'm like you guys know I dothis stuff hood as fuck in
people's kitchens.
Like this stuff ain't evenlegit, uh-huh and uh, I'm just,
you know, a speed stick, uh,transfer paper against the world
oh shit, like it, dude, it'sbad.
Get a nice gun yeah, yeah, okay,so at least that's the best

(01:07:44):
amazon could buy oh yeah but uh,so we, me and my buddy go down
to Nashville and we're partyingit up and we're just down there
looking for women and we go intogosh I don't remember what bar
it was, I think it was KidRock's Bar so we go in there and

(01:08:04):
we're mingling and we ended upbumping into these dudes and
they were cool as hell.
Well, they were part of awedding party, all right.
Well then we got to meet thebride and, uh, why?
They were no specifics.
I just, I think they all justwhen I got married.
So, um, these girls arehammered dude.
Okay, three sheets and winbride and bridesmaids.

(01:08:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah and uh, it was13 girls okay oh damn, they were
rolling deep.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't thinkall of them were bridesmaids,
but a couple of them were Surefriends.
So my buddy is hitting on one ofthe bridesmaids I think a maid
of honor and he's covered intattoos and he's a tattoo artist
in Memphis, so he knows how totattoo I don't.

(01:08:46):
So he went down there and hewas going to tattoo me, so he
brought all this stuff.
So these girls are like yo,let's go get tattoos.
Do you guys know any tattooparlors that are open right now
that will do walk-ins?
And he says there's a few, butyou can't do it.
And it's very important,everyone should listen.
Do not get a tattoo, don't get atattoo while you've been

(01:09:06):
drinking, because it will pushthe ink out and you've been
drinking because it'll push theink out, and my hands on the
inside used to say what goesaround comes around, and alcohol
pushed it out.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Oh shit.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
So it is true.
So he tells them, he says youcan't get it done because the
alcohol pushed it out.
They're like okay, he says, butI'm a tattoo artist and he's
not a tattoo artist.
Okay, point at me, I'm not, butI got got the tattoos.
So I fit the part you look likeyou look the part yeah, yeah, I
had a mohawk, I look like Itattooed and uh.

(01:09:36):
So he tells them that we'retattoo artists from memphis and
uh, we'll go back to our airbnband we'll get some tattooing
done how many, how many totalpeople come back to the place
with you?

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Yeah, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
It took two Uber rides like Suburbans to take us
and 13 drunk bitches back tothis place.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
So it was all the women.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
None of the men, none of the dudes came.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
How the hell did that happen?
They were cool with that, ordid 13 women sneak off Dude?

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
I'm going to be honest, I think it was some
shady stuff, because I'm prettysure my buddy fucked a bride
Really sneak off to your Dude.
I'm going to be honest, I thinkit was some shady stuff because
I'm pretty sure my buddy fuckeda bride.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Really Pretty sure he fucked her Dude like how do you
?
Because originally at the barwas there like four, five, six,
seven men with them.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
There was probably like eight dudes.
There was like eight dudes, sothere was eight dudes.
Yeah, yeah yeah.
And at the end came, with noneof them all, three, 13 women.
No holy, I will tell you this,dude, we're in the middle of
tattooing these girls okay, anduh, their phones are just
ringing.
So I mean like let's be honestso we get back to the airbnb and

(01:10:42):
uh, in the agreement to rentthe airbnb, it was that you
couldn't have parties and youcouldn't bring people back.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Yeah, yeah, of course .
So we did both of those.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
So we got Post Malone on this big TV they had in the
living room and it was like aRoku TV.
So we had YouTube playing PostMalone and my buddy's like hey,
dude, I brought two guns, you'regoing to tattoo half of them.
I'm going to tattoo the otherhalf.
If you don't know how to tattoo, you're not tattooing six girls
as fast as a dude who'stattooing six girls that tattoos

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every day.
So he was knocking them out.
I got four of the girls doneand he did the rest of them and
you tattooed four girls dude, itlooked like shit oh, they were
all for the same.
Yeah, yeah, okay and um we,everything was hygienic and
everything, because he's a legittattoo artist, so everything
was hygienic.
He told me how to do it andhe's like you, yo dude, don't

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blow up.
That means I know right, I blewit finishing up, the last girl
and all the girls uh, basicallydecided together to like, hey,
you guys have to get it too.
And I was like, hey, dude,you're gonna have to tattoo,
because I'm not letting thesebitches tattoo me.
Like you, you have experience.
I'm like what, four, four,fucking white.
So, um, like no fucking way,dude, no, you're not tattooing

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me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
So, um, I tattooed him if he was a legit tattoo
artist I didn't want to play boybunny on my.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Oh, it was all the same tattoo.
Oh shit, okay yeah so I got, Igot mine.
Yeah, not there.
So the night we all partied,had fun.
Yeah, it went exactly how youthink it went.
So the next day we hitNashville again and my buddy
brought all of his tattoo shit.

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He had like a couple of inkcaps, a little bag of Vaseline
and he's like, dude, I'm goingto try and do some tattoos on
the spot.
And he had a littlebattery-powered tattoo gun and
everything.
Wow, okay, and they call it amachine, in case somebody wants
to fact-check me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Oh sure, there's people like that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
So he brings all this stuff to Broadway and I'm like,
dude, you can get staphinfection and shit.
Yeah, so um Coyote Ugly.
And uh, he's like, hey, dude,let's go to um Luke Bryan or
Zach Bryan.
Yeah, it was Luke Bryan's Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Jason Aldean's bar and, uh, I got kicked out of
there the night before anOlympic swimmer.
She did water polo.
She was tall as fuck.
I'll pull up a picture.
Okay, she was so tall, I had tostand on a toilet seat.
Okay, she was that tall, holycrap, man, it was so bad.
So what?
you got caught and they justkicked you out, yeah, yeah, the
guy comes in my head's above thestall and the guy's like

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fucking boner of shame, walkthrough the front door.
So the next day we come in anduh, we're doing shots and my
buddy tells me he says, uh,let's make a bet.
I'm like, okay, because hewanted to talk to this girl.
And uh, she went down therewith us and he wanted to date
her and the bet was that if helost he had to go talk to her
and shoot a shot because he wastoo scared to.

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Okay.
And then, um, if I lost, he gotto tattoo the Playboy Bunny on
me.
And I'm like, okay, cool.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
I lost.
I can't drink, I lost.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
So I was like okay, cool, I'm a man of my word, when
we get back to Airbnb, he cantattoo me.
No, he tattooed me in thebathroom.
In the bathroom, in a stall,two stalls down from where I got
busy with my little girl Holyshit and like like the most
unprepared environment ever,Like I'm holding the ink cap
while he's tattooing my ass.
Dude, it was like reverse head,Like if you walked in the

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bathroom you'd be like someone'sgetting their ass ate.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
So, I'm embarrassed.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
And it's probably one of my best tattoos.
So if you're in Memphis, hedoes great tattoos.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
That's great.
A little plug in there for him.
Oh my God.
And so from there, you havedone tattoos after that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
Yeah.
So like I went to a MorganWallen concert and the night
before the concert my buddy waslike yo, dude, come over and
tattoo me, and he startedinviting people over, oh my God.
So I did like six differentpeople that one night didn't get
to sleep and I had to leaveearly so I could get down, uh,
to the morgan wallen concert.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Oh, god bless your heart it was just one tattoo
after another so while I'mtattooing this person.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
He's trying to figure out his next tattoo dude, I'm
assuming you got paid for thatno dude, you're just doing
tattoos, just doing, do them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
You're doing the Lord's work, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
He got a hand tattoo.
He got a Bible quote you knowlike real.
You shouldn't be gettingtattoos at 10 o'clock at night I
mean, were they coming outbetter?

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Oh no, they were terrible.
They were so bad dude.
No progression whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Yeah, well because six tattoos in I'm not getting
paid.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
I just threw that shit on her yeah, I'm burnt out.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
People are coming in dude like he's pimping out his
mom's house and, uh, all thegirls though, they got good
tattoos.
Yeah, it took me probably about30 minutes to do their tattoo.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
You want to impress them.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Yeah, yeah, I was like don't worry, baby, I got
you sick with me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
That's crazy.
So when's the last time you'vedone a tattoo for anybody?

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
um, so I was dating this girl uh, you know about her
ruining my life um, so shewanted a tattoo, so I told her
let me tattoo my initials on you, and she agreed.
So I did like a cute littledainty heart, and then put my
nistles in it oh, wow, yeah,we're on the butt cheek uh, no,
it was like like right on, uh,like the pelvis yeah yeah, yeah,

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yeah, it's a common one there,yeah so I can't wait for the
next guy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Your initials are yeah right there by her hoo-ha
yeah, yeah, yeah by bat caveyeah, dude yeah damn, I love it
so then going back, so youworked at a prison yeah how long
did you work at a prison for?
Oh, like 11 months, so almost ayear.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
Yeah, and how old were you?
Uh, I was the youngest onethere.
I was 18 turned 19.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
There you did, but really, yeah, I didn't know they
could they let you do that atsuch a young age.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Yeah, so it used to be had to be 21.
So like there was a lot ofpeople I tell them I worked at
prison, they were like no, no,you gotta be 21, like dude who
would lie about that?
Yeah, true I walk in I seedudes naked in the showers.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Okay, like no one's lying about that so how many
tattoos have you gotten at theprison?
Because you mentioned that yeah, are we talking, multiple
tattoos were done in a prisoncell or in prison so yeah, it
was sketchy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
So there was this guy who tattooed in prison and he
did a really good job, okay.
And um, so he told me that hewould tattoo me and he would do
this stuff on the fly like nostencil, nothing, just raw.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
And um one of them you could tell he he tattooed
that stuff no stencil so whenyou say raw, because just for
people who don't know, and Idon't know, what does that look
like?
How was he tattooing youwithout a stencil?

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
dude, so the whole setup was sketchy all right, so
I had to trust a guy who went toprison for uh, insurance fraud
so like the guy's a liar, yeahand, uh, he tells me he's dude,
I'll just get the stuff togetherand I'll tattoo you.
Now, like I work there, okay,and he tells me he'll tattoo me.
And it was like two months hetried to get me to and I

(01:17:57):
wouldn't do it.
So he tells me all the thingsthat he's going to get.
And I was like, dude, I'm notletting you tattoo me with shit
you got from a prison.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
Like there's roaches and stuff here, rats.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
And rats and um, so I bring in the stuff and uh, he
gets, so I I didn't have ink, sohow he made the ink?
He turned the uh cutting torchon and made like a cone out of
uh uh paper and then hecollected the soot and then made
it in the ink oh yeah he waswitty dude and, uh, I think he's
got tattoos and magazines likehe got out, and I think he's got
tattoos and magazines wow notmine though not mine yeah how do

(01:18:37):
they look today, dude?

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
they're so bad six, seven years ago yeah, they're so
bad, are they like?
Faded, so um, I'm sure theygotta be faded, oh dude, they're
, they're mint really like uh,and I think it's the soot you
know, I mean like that stuff'sin there and um, he it had
something else in there.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
He had to mix it to make it liquid, but yeah, so and
um, he did it with like a dvdplayer motor and a bunch of
other stuff yeah it was.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
It was prison rig so what are the couple of the
tattoos he did for?

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
you, dude.
He plastered my whole back in asteam room.
What, yeah, in a steam roomwhere they Gosh dang it Is this
off the clock or on the clock.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Dude on the clock.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
Oh shit, yeah.
Yeah, if you're going to gettattooed in prison, you better
be on the clock, I'm assumingyou worked like the night shift
or something right?
No, day shift dude, like thenight shift or something, no day
shift dude Day shift in a steamroom.
Is there no fucking regulation?
I was the regulations.
Yeah, dude, my moral compasswas gone.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
So what was one of the?
Or, just give me one of thetattoos that he gave you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
He blasted like my whole back and it's a snake and
a half naked lady.
Oh really yeah, she used to benaked.
She used to be naked she usedto be naked.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Yeah, what did you put clothes on her?
Yeah, I had to.
Oh, did you?
They were enlist yeah.
Oh, in order to enlist.
Yeah, that's a rule.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Well, it's a naked woman.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
If someone's seen me.
Yeah, they told me I had to, soI believed.
Never heard that.
Yeah, so now she's got like alike in a greek gown.
Oh yeah, yeah, that's wild.
Never heard that rule before.
Like, is it because like toidentify?

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
you?
No, I think it's uh, I think ithad something to do with like
women and oh.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
So it's just like a like a moral high ground that
the Marines say no one can dothat type of stuff.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Back then the tattoo policy was super strict.
You could only have like fourvisible.
They had to be able to becovered by it and that was like
four visible tattoos.
I think it was like two fingersbelow the elbow and one finger
above.
I don't remember theregulations, but they were
strict and they had to be ableto get covered by a palm.

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Really, yeah, so nothing crazy.
You couldn't have nothing cool.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
That's weird.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
Like I said, I don't know much about that stuff Now
it's like no face and hands orneck.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
So did you ever see action?

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
No, no, I didn't even make it out mct oh, because you
were.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
You had an injury.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
No, I had a seizure and died twice.
Yeah I choked on my tonguetwice yeah, I choked on my
tongue, not even cool what?

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
yeah, have you had a history of having seizures
before that?

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
no, that was the only one, and they told me it was
from lack of sleep andmalnutrition but it's the damn
marines.
They didn't feed you I mean theyfed you, but like not a lot
like that's kind of kind of thepoint yeah, they're trying to
recreate like a real war.
Oh, so it was part of thetraining yeah, I mean, I ate uh
like a ham and cheese sandwichand a cookie like all day wow,

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while you're doing thisextensive ass, hard training
throughout the day yeah, justall day getting fucked what as
as a marine, how many hours arethey telling you you get to
sleep?
um, that was a training exercise.
I think we were awake like 48hours or something, I don't even
remember really yeah, I don'teven remember a lot of it,

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because when I had my seizureand everything, a lot of my
memory was like fuzzy aroundthat time, I mean, you choke on
your tongue, you die twice.
They resuscitated me once onthe spot and then they
resuscitated me in the ambulance.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
So you had two seizures back to back.
No, same event.
You had two seizures back toback.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
No Same event they said something about because
from the seizure and I choked onmy tongue, the lack of air or
something caused my brain tobasically shut down or some shit
Right, and it caused a lot ofhealth problems, dude, I got a
lot of health problems from it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
But I guess what I'm wondering is so you said you had
two seizures right?

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
No, just one seizure and I died twice.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Oh, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
I'm sorry.
So one seizure died twice.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
Yeah, if I went and choked on my tongue, I'd have
been golden, did you have anyouter body experience from that?
Was it just?
Blank, like darkness A lot ofpeople ask me that I just
remember like black.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
Yeah, Like black, like darkness right, yeah, I
don't remember anything, almostlike just going to sleep, yeah,
and then boom, you're up, eyesare open.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
Yeah, it's pretty much what it felt like, sure.
I don't know if that's a goodthing.
Maybe I should have been stillawake.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
I mean, who knows man ?
Everybody has a differentexperience, apparently.
But I mean, that doesn't meananything, that was just your
experience your experience yeah,so you actually flatline, yeah
twice, flatline, yeah, twice.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
For how long, uh, I don't know.
I know that, uh, when you getdischarged, they give you all
your medical paperwork andeverything.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
So it says it somewhere on there.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Yeah, it was not a good time so what was that?

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
just like in a year span.
How long were you in themarines for?

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
um, just shy of a year.
Okay, so just under a year,yeah damn, bro, did that?

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
I mean, what did that do to you mentally?
Did that do anything to you asfar as make you think about
certain actions or certainroutes you wanted to go, or it
was just one of those thingslike hey, man, life continues.
And like, did that do anythingfor you?

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
So most of the time that I was in I was waiting to
get discharged.
I was just hanging around,because they can't just send you
home from what I understandthey want to do EKGs and stuff
to find out why I even had it.
And I remember they didn'treally take it real serious at

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first.
Um, because they said it wasfrom lack of sleep and
malnutrition.
They they generalized it as ashock, Like my body went into
shock because I went to sleepfor an hour and then I got woke
up and then that's whattriggered it.
Oh, wow, yeah.
And they said it put my bodyinto shock because you were
awake for so long.
And then they said if I wouldhave got to sleep eight hours,
it never would have happened.

(01:24:54):
Well, they called my mom and mymom was like yo, his dad has
epilepsy.
So on my discharge it saysgeneralized seizure.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Yeah, but don't they do a family background check?

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
Yeah, it was all on there.
That's it was in there.
Yeah, you better tell the truth.
Yeah, I'm sure dude, you don'twant to fuck with the government
yeah, when you uh, when you getto boot uh, receiving wheat,
they have this thing called themoment of truth and uh, they try
to get you snitch on yourself,oh shit yeah they're like
nothing will happen.
I'm like bullshit dude.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Damn, that's wild.
I didn't.
You might have told me that.
I think I vaguely remember youtelling me something like that,
but I didn't think I didn't knowit was that crazy dude yeah and
, like you, haven't had any typeof episodes since then uh-uh
okay yeah, they even told me torecreate something like that be
almost near impossible, oh okayso it would have to be under

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extreme yeah circumstances likegetting cut up with a box cutter
right yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
If you got cut up with a box cutter, right, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
If you got cut up with a box cutter and didn't
sleep for two days yeah right,no shit, okay, well, damn well,
it's kind of actually playedinto a little game I wanted to
play with you and consideringthat you admitted that you died
twice, yeah I'm kind of curiousso I just took this off tiktok.

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It's like a ranking game, so I'mgonna give you 10 I guess,
scenarios or situations of likea way to die and I want you to
kind of rank what do you thinkwould be?
Well, we'll say number one isthe worst way to die.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
And number ten is like it's like Kiss, kill or
Marry, yeah, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
So number ten will be not so bad, but it's nowhere
near as bad as number one.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I don't get to know them all at
once.
No, well, how do you?

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
want to do it?
Do you want to do like a blindranking?

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
Yeah, we'll do a blind.
Yeah, we'll do a blind.
You want to do a blind one?

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Yeah, that even works better for me.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
All right, because I'm going to keep it here.
I just hate to say thatsomething's a 10 and in reality
there's something way worse.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Well, I guess that's where the fun comes from with
doing a blind.
That's some jigsaw shit Allright, we're going to do a blind
ranking and I'm going to giveyou the first one.
I'm going to give you the firstone and I'm just going to do a
random one.
Let's say, falling off a rollercoaster.
Falling off a roller coaster.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
And you do die.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
You do die.
So all these scenarios, you dodie, God I hope it's like quick
Once again number one is justthe worst, most agonizing, worst
way to die.
Number ten still die, but it'snot as bad.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
I don't think that one's that bad.
I'd put that one at the end.
I'd rather die that way thanprobably any of the others.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
So number 10 or you want to put it at 8 or 9?
We'll put it at 10.
10?
Okay, we're going to say RollerCoaster at 10.
All right, and then the nextone is Ooh Lava, lava Falling in
.
Ooh Lava, lava Falling in.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
Ooh, I mean you'd be snuffed out quick.
I'd put that like right below,falling in a roller coaster.
Okay, like you would dieinstantly.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
I would think so right.
Yeah, I would too, and I heardthat.
I heard that, like it's sointense.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
I don't even think you'd feel anything.
You'd probably go into shock.
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
right like falling and the kind of same thing with
the roller coaster.
I mean it'll be scary as shitwhen you do that fall, but if
you fall on your head, boom,it's lights out you don't
probably feel anything with ourluck probably not, I know right,
all right.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
Second one is landmine stepping on the
landmine dang dude, most peopledon't die like right away, but
they talk.
Let's just say, let's put thisscenario landmine Dang dude.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
Most people don't die right away.
Let's just say, let's put thisscenario Landmine leg blown off,
half of your arm blown off, youbleed to death.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
That's bad.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
That's bad.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
God, dude, I'm not going to say it's the worst, but
it's bad.
You'd probably be in shock.
I think so too.
Let's put it four.
One's the worst, right One'sthe worst.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
I think that's a good one for that one.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
I mean, at least you went out like a hero.
I mean, unless you're in thirdworld country?

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Yeah right.

Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
You're just walking your dog, you're just on
vacation.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Damn, that's fucked up.
Just casual Tuesday, all right.
Next one will be trappedpped ina Freezer.
Ooh Dude, that's bad.
I mean because you feel thatshit for a while.
Yeah, but at the same time too,I think eventually I think you
just go into shock or you gonumb.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
I'd put that at six.
That's a drawn out.
Yeah, I'd put it at six.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Okay, I think, yeah, we'll say Freezer.
I'd rather that than a landmineI agree, yeah, I agree, it just
sucks.
It's kind of just like a slow,yeah, but I get it all right.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
Second one or the next one oh, hit by train, hit
by train, yeah you'd be smoked.
Um god, do I got a seven?
I'd rather that to a claymore.
No, you can't.
No you do have a seven yeah,yeah, put it as a seven.
That don't sound that bad.
Okay, I mean, you'd be deadinstantly.
Hamburger meat, sardines, right.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
All right, let me change this to a ten.
Okay, all right.
So so far you got landmine atfour, so you still have one, two
, three, you have five open, andthen it's freezer at six, hit
by train.
At seven, eight is open, andthen lava and roller coaster.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
Yeah, next one bear attack oh, dude, that's bad yeah
, that's like right there withuh stepping on a landmine.
I'd put that as a five dude,that would suck.

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
That would suck so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
I think that might be worse than a landmine, do you?

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
want me to change it to you want to put it at three.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
Let's put it at three .
That's bad.
You see, those bear attacks.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
Yeah, dude, they're ruthless, they're gnawing at you
, clawing at you.

Speaker 3 (01:30:43):
Yeah, I went to Wisconsin and I carry a hiking
gun when I go to Wisconsin.
I'm looking for bears, right,and my buddy we went to boot
camp together and I went upthere to visit him and he's like
, yeah, dude, how was it?
I was like I didn't see nobears, but I brought my gun and
he's like, oh dude, he says,were you looking up in the trees
?

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
I'm like no, I heard they up in the trees.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
No, he used to Cougars.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
Cougars.
I know I sound stupid right now.
I heard bears go on the trees.
I mean yeah, oh yeah, cougars,yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
Yeah, I was looking for the wrong thing, dude.
Yeah, I was hoodwinked, Allright.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
Next one would be whirlpool Like in the water,
getting sucked in down towhirlpool.
You can't pull yourself out.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
So so essentially, you're drowning to death.
Yeah, I mean it sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
But you're not getting messed up by coco the
bear, it kind of you know, andit kind of fits in there with
freezing to death yeah, it'slike a slow, slow slow I think
it'd be way faster and freezingit.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
Oh yeah, of course you're drowning like in four or
five minutes freezing.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
You're probably going to be in there for yeah
depending on how cold, maybe anhour before your body just shuts
down.
All right.
Next one is this is my kind ofphobia stuck in a cave, so
you're stuck in a cave.
Let's just say you're rockclimbing and you get wedged and
you're just stuck.
Or maybe you're lost in a cave,so you're stuck, you're lost,

(01:32:09):
and then you just basically dieof hydration and yeah, star
starvation that would suck dudethat takes so long so you have
one and two available, and youhave eight available this is
eight yeah that's an eight.

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
Okay, I wish I knew eight was available, because I
would switch it you ain't itlike a week?

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
it would take you to die, I think.
So I think someone could gowithout like water for like a
week yeah, and that's pushing it, depending on, I think it's
shorter, all right foodpoisoning.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
Oh dude, I just got food poisoning, not too long ago
.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
That's bad.

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
That's not that bad, though I mean but we already ate
everything.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
But it's a blind ranking, yeah two.
Okay, so this first one or thisnext one has to be the worst,
which that comes to Care Bears.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
I know right.

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
Yeah, something that's not even that bad.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
Oh, bungee jumping.
Bungee jump, core snaps, boom,you fall to death.

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
Oh, I mean, that's not that bad.
Well, now it's the worst.
Now it's the worst.
I wish I'd have known that Dudebear attacks are way worse than
bungee jumping.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
Okay, so just to go through the list.
So we said one is bungeejumping, two is food poisoning,
three is bear attack.
Four is landmine.
Five is whirlpool drowning.
Six is stuck in a freezer.
Seven hit by a train.
Eight is stuck in a cave.
Nine is lava.
Ten is roller coaster.

(01:33:41):
So if you had to choose now youknow all of them what do you
think is the number one worstway to die out of that group?
I think bear attack?

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
I think so attack?

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
I think so too.

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
Yeah, that'd be so bad, especially if it was your
pet bear, like you were a beartamer.
Yeah, the normal pet bear.
Right the betrayal.
We're not in Russia.
Dude Florida man, what do?

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
you mean?
What Florida person has a petbear?
Are there bears even in Florida?
I don't know, but it's Florida,florida anything's possible.

Speaker 3 (01:34:06):
Yeah, yeah, I went to florida for the hurricane
cleanup yeah and uh, I'm talkingto this guy who lives there and
I told him I was like dude, Ihate florida.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
I was like everything's either poisonous or
on crack oh yeah, we justtalked about that lady stabbing
old girl.
Yeah, florida louisiana.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
There was that guy that drove a truck down on main
drag, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
Oh yeah you hear about the cyber truck blowing up
in front of the trump buildingno, that was rigged.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
You think it has to be right I mean, what else could
it be?

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
like I don't know, I didn't do any research on it,
like I can't tell you anystatistics like?

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
does trump even have charging ports in front of his
building?

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
I know, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
Like he's probably so well he is friends with elon
yeah, maybe he was pissed offjust looking out for his boy.
Your cyber truck, yeah heprobably can't.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
Would that be fucked up if elon had the power to and
it's basically a computer heprobably does to go into, like
the headquarters, or probablyeven his laptop?
In his house, his log into anyfucking tesla or cyberruck and
blow it up if he wanted to.

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
I mean I guarantee he's got somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
He could shut them down or something I think, so
there's probably a mainframebutton where you can shut all of
them down if you wanted to.

Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
I mean we've seen iRobot.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
That's a good movie.
Yeah, that's a good movie, itreally is.
Yeah, I think I would agreewith you.
It's a bear attack.
And well, let's do this realquick.
Would you think that a bearattack or a shark attack, like a
we're talking like great white?
Uh, what do you think, I guess?

(01:35:44):
What do you think is the worstand what do you think you have a
better chance of surviving?

Speaker 3 (01:35:49):
I think you have a better chance surviving a bear
attack because, like, if you golimp, uh you're golden, but like
now you're in the water, you'realready out of your element you
know, I mean, and you'regetting fucked up, but I think,
if you think about it, I thinkthere's more um literature and
how to to get away from a sharkattack, oh, really.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
Yeah, because, well, you ever hear that.
Well, if you punch it in thenostril, or if you stick
something or your finger intothe gills, or even if you gouge
the shark's eye, like it'ssupposed to deter the shark, I
thought that was for dogs no.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
Yeah, but with a bear .

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
You're not getting close to his eye, you're not
going to to his eye, you're, youcan't, you're not gonna jab him
anything like.
In my opinion, I think you'rebetter, your survival rate is
better with a shark, really,compared to a bear you think
people are just underwaterpunching one on a snoot but I
think I've heard people survivedand they said, well, I mean
they might get bit, but whilethey're getting chomped on,

(01:36:51):
there's stories of people saying, yeah, I just took my thumb and
jammed it in his eye and thenhe let go of me.
And then, of course, if you getback to shore, that's kind of
like 50-50.

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
I don't know, dude, that would suck, because now
you're bleeding, you're missinga leg, you're swimming in
circles.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
I mean, we're talking about and I guess I don't let's
say, grizzly bear, and I couldprobably look this up really
quick.
But how do you, how big do youthink a grizzly bear is?
Dude?
they're big like a grizzly bear,the size of a grizzly bear and
because I know polo bears arebigger, but a grizzly bear is

(01:37:28):
about 400 to 600 pounds andthey're like eight foot tall.
Eight uh, grizzly bears arethree and a half to four and a
half feet tall at the hump, sothat means like oh, yeah, yeah,
missionary or not, and theydoggy, you say mission, yeah,
yeah, yeah missionary yeah sorry, my bad but when they stand up
they're like eight feet tall.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
So, we're talking about bear on its two hind legs,
about, let's say, 500 pounds,600 pounds and eight feet tall.

Speaker 3 (01:37:56):
Well, a great white might be bigger, see it's weird,
though, because you're likethere's way more literature on
shark attacks.
I've only heard about bearattacks and they're like yo just
go limp.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
I've heard that too, but I think shark attacks may be
more frequent.
I could probably see that.
I think more people are in thewater than they are in the in
the woods.
For sure, but a great whitesays it could be up to 20 feet
long.
So we're talking almost doublethe size.
It is double the size of afull-grown grizzly bear, but

(01:38:34):
they say most are smaller.
But even if we're conservative,it's 16 feet.
That's double the size of agrizzly bear.
And they say that they areabout 4,400 pounds.
Damn, so,400 pounds, damn.
So I don't know.
I might be going back to yourargument.
I mean, so a grizzly bear isgoing to be considerably smaller

(01:38:58):
, but I think there's moretechniques, I think, to survive
a shark attack than Because theonly thing you've told me is
that, well, just go limp.
Well, that's a.
You're leaving that up to fateif that bear thinks you're dead
or not.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
I think it depends why they're attacking you, Like
if they're hungry, you're fucked.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
Oh yeah, you're right , no matter limp or not, it has
an aid in six months.

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
But what if you got hard and now it's dominance.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
You know what I mean.
You know, I mean like you beatdogs yeah, like you might be
that guy that might do it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
He whips his out and just turns you around.

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
Oh, before he now, now it's missionary.
Now, yeah, now it's missionary.
Oh god, dude no yeah but and Ithink it comes to, I guess,
individually because me I hatebeing in the water, so just me
floating in the ocean, myanxiety and fear would be
through the roof.
If I'm walking in the woods andI hear shit, I at least I would

(01:39:59):
feel like I have a chance torun somewhere to get away well,
they say, if you run, uh it'llattack you like it provokes them
, right yeah but like honestly Ithink that's like just human
instinct fucking strap on awhite knight grizzly bear,
you're supposed to what?
stand there and look tall typeof thing where you're supposed

(01:40:20):
to.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
You're supposed to look bigger.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
Yeah, look bigger yeah, dude, most people ain't
doing that, yeah especiallythose midgets, dude, dude
they're fucked.
You need to get like three ofthem Just go live, dude.
They're making a ladder.
There ain't no dominance thatyou're asserting.
That's true, that's true.
Oh poor little people.

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
God dude, I'm sorry, here's another thing is like
with the shark attack let's sayit doesn't kill you.
Now you're just out in thewater, cold, wet, but the same
thing with the bear.

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
If the bear like we're talking like their claws
are like, probably the size of aruler, Like just a claw.
Their paw, their hand isprobably.
Like your whole face, like twofeet three, yeah, like probably
double the size of your.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
It could probably go over your face damn near twice.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
Well, face not yours, yeah, but I mean, you're
talking about coming full forcewith those daggers of a claw.
Yeah, you're straight cuts youopen or takes a bite of like
same thing like you're, and ifhe leaves, great you survive.
But depending on if you knowwhere you are in the woods it's
kind of like the ocean too.
I mean, if you're out there,you're kind of like the ocean
too.
I mean, if you're out there,you're kind of like fuck because

(01:41:29):
you're waiting for a boat tohappen.
But same thing with the woods.
I mean, if you're close enough,if you're on a trail, then
maybe you have a chance, becausemaybe people.
But how long are you going tostay alive until you bleed out?

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
Well, maybe that's where that cave comes in.
You know what I mean.
Like you crawl in that cave.
I think you're missing.
The main point is that you'renot going to be wet.
Of course you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
As long as you die dry that's the most important
thing.
Eric, you know what.
That's how we're going to endthis podcast.
The most important thing in anysituation as long as you are
dying and you die dry.

Speaker 3 (01:42:08):
As long as you are dying and you die dry then,
you're golden.

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
Yeah, stay dry is part.
Stay dry folks, oh God.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
Well, caleb, I'm glad you're on, I had a blast.
Usually these shows at leastthe last handful have been kind
of more deep, emotional, likegoing into childhood and daddy

(01:42:33):
issues, stuff like this.
But to have an episode wherewe're just kind of fooling
around, telling jokes, tellingstories, hearing about your
fascinating young life, it'sbeen a real treat.
Appreciate you coming on.
Um, hey, and if this episodedoes better than the others,
then best believe, I'm gonna askyou back on and you know, maybe
we'll do it again yeah, I'vedone so much more dumb stuff.
I'm sure you have, but I onlyhave a certain amount of time
and hey, maybe if you get tothinking we could do a part two

(01:42:57):
and revisit some of those uhscenarios, maybe even go back a
little further into yourchildhood, and who knows?
Sky's the limit.
So I thank you again,appreciate it, and, um, let's,
let's get out of here.

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