Controlled Burn

Controlled Burn

Hosted by OKCTL’s Brandon Fountain and Shane Davis, this podcast delivers thoughtful, well-informed coverage of Oklahoma’s cannabis industry. With a balance of expertise and approachability, the show explores current events, pending legislation, regulatory updates, and underreported issues affecting growers, testing labs, dispensaries, and everyday consumers across the state.

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May 8, 2026 88 mins

In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon go from parenting paranoia and GPS surveillance to one of the biggest questions looming over the cannabis industry right now: the DEA registration deadline. With June 22 approaching fast, operators are stuck navigating a mix of speculation, partial guidance, and very real potential consequences.


We break down what’s actually known, what’s still unclear, and why waiting this o...

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In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon dive into one of the most misunderstood (and underestimated) threats in cannabis: contamination. What starts as a conversation about tornado protocols and compliance quickly spirals into real-world lab mysteries, unexpected failures, and the tiny oversights that can cost brands everything.


From air duster mishaps to mold hiding in plain sight, this episode is a masterclass i...

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In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon kick things off with Women & Weed, the CNN special from Sanjay Gupta that dives into cannabis use among women — from pregnancy to mental health. But as always, the conversation doesn’t stay calm for long.


From there, we shift into Oklahoma’s latest cannabis policy updates, including edible limits, trafficking thresholds, and what these changes actually mean for operators ...

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In this episode of Controlled Burn, we break down the chaos behind Oklahoma cannabis policy, where bills don’t just pass… they transform overnight. From placeholder legislation turning into full-blown cannabis regulations to rule changes that catch the entire industry off guard, this one dives deep into how the system really works.


We unpack the real impact behind dispensary distance laws, grow caps, THC drink regulations, and t...

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In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon bounce from Taco Bell-induced life lessons to youth sports pressure, fight culture, and the uncomfortable truth about cannabis: we keep calling it “medical”… but everyone knows what’s really going on. It’s equal parts chaos, comedy, and a brutally honest look at an industry that can’t quite get out of its own way.


Along the way, they unpack overdraft disasters and the financi...

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In this episode of Controlled Burn, we sit down with Casey Rastabeard Young — operator, grower, and one of the most recognizable voices in Oklahoma cannabis. From building a a well-known vertical operation with just $25K to navigating one of the most chaotic markets in the country, Casey breaks down what it really takes to survive (and win) in the Wild West of weed.


We get into everything from Oklahoma vs. Missouri pricing, lice...

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In this episode of Controlled Burn, we kick things off with social anxiety, phone call glitches, and a “that’s great, big guy” moment that will live forever.


From there, we spiral into real life: vacation chaos, gas station survival missions, and the physical toll of the grind – including carpal tunnel, chiropractor visits, and the reality of doing too much for too long.


Naturally, that leads us exactly where every profession...

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In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon bounce between lab realities, industry misconceptions, and a full breakdown of one of the strangest UFC conversations we’ve had in a while. From customers demanding instant lab results to the science behind why accurate testing actually takes time, the guys dig into the disconnect between cannabis operators and the analytical labs keeping the industry legally defensible.


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In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon cover everything from scam emails hitting Oklahoma cannabis businesses to the bigger issue nobody wants to talk about: who’s actually representing the industry when it matters.



After attending the latest OMMA Executive Advisory Committee meeting, the guys break down why some of the voices shaping cannabis policy might be wildly disconnected from the realities of growers, process...

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In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon sit down with Oklahoma gubernatorial candidate Robert Brooks, the self-described “Farmer Servant,” to unpack one of the boldest campaign ideas we’ve heard in a minute: The People’s App.


Brooks says his job as governor would be simple: put major decisions on an app and let registered voters decide whether he signs, vetoes, pardons, or grants clemency. From cannabis policy to g...

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This week’s episode of Controlled Burn is exactly what the title promises: chaos. We kick things off with airplane snacks and Sonic cravings, detour through Red Lobster birthday trauma, and spiral into conspiracy theories.


There’s no major industry news this week, unless you count one of our instruments breaking and turning the lab into a stress factory. Solvent backlogs, turnaround pressure, and client communication all get ver...

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February 13, 2026 52 mins

In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane Davis and Brandon Fountain come in hot after a doomscroll discovery that raises the most important question nobody asked for: why is anyone “sunning” their perineum… and what does that even accomplish?


From there, the conversation spirals (respectfully) through regional slang, the realities of getting older (everything hurts, surprise), and the kind of lab-adjacent chaos you only get when t...

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In this episode of The Controlled Burn, we sit down with Josh and Nick from RedBilly Brand to unpack what it’s like running a vertically integrated cannabis company in the middle of a regulatory crackdown. From surviving challenging surprises to navigating compliance when it feels like a moving target, we dig into the real cost of doing things the right way, and why so many others don’t.


We also talk about Hao Chen, the raids t...

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In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon sit down with the man, the myth, the legend — John Koumbis of JKJ Processing.


From freeze-dried bananas to the infused beef jerky story, John walks us through how he went from a steel‑walled vape shop dispensary to building one of the most recognizable edible brands in Oklahoma. We talk edible inconsistency in the early days, betting $7,000 on a freeze dryer, and why sometime...

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OMMA’s gray zone is getting crowded, and no one’s making it out with clear answers. In this episode, Shane and Brandon are joined by Special Guest Dee Charlton from Very Impressive Processing and Dank Banq for a journey through weird sales stories, compliance limbo, and the awkward magic of pop-ups, group chats, and multi-flavor madness that may or may not be legal.


You’ll laugh. You’ll learn. You might even file a metric ticket.

We ...

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Shane and Brandon spiral through edible emergencies, mushroom missteps, and cannabis waste violations while actively trying not to say anything that could get them in too much trouble. Somewhere between compost tea conspiracies, dispensaries getting shut down, and ketamine therapy that may or may not show up in the mail, the conversation takes a hard left into mental health, veterans’ care, and why some “wellness” trends feel one G...

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January 9, 2026 94 mins

In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon break down the 2026 OMMA public comment hearing and explain why this one actually mattered. From the tone of the room to the substance of the comments, they walk through what labs, operators, and industry advocates raised at the Capitol and how those concerns could shape Oklahoma cannabis moving forward. The conversation covers confirmation testing requirements that no longer al...

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We’re kicking off the new year with optimism, caffeine, and just a touch of existential dread. In this first episode of 2026, the Controlled Burn crew dives into the fallout of federal rescheduling, the shaky future of AI, and the annual tradition of pretending our New Year’s resolutions are going to stick. From compliance costs to 5 a.m. gym fantasies, it’s clear: the industry isn’t dead — but we’re all a little tired.

Also, someon...

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In part 2, the conversation dives even deeper, from loopholes in the new hemp bill to loopholes in reality itself. If Part 1 was spirit and story, Part 2 is science and systems…with just as much chaos.

We unpack how the farm bill might reshape the entire supply chain, why the system’s still allergic to compliance, and what it’ll actually take to educate a generation raised on THC percentages.

They dig into the coming cannabinoid sha...

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In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon sit down with the one and only Joshua Graston — a cannabis alchemist, entrepreneur, modern-day philosopher, and the man who once turned down $65 million for his work.


From trauma to transformation, Josh walks us through his wild personal journey, the science and spirit behind one-of-one medicine, and why he lives every day like he time-traveled back to it on purpose.


They ...

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