March 31, 2025 • 56 mins
This week on Conversations That Count, I’m joined by the unstoppable Nadine Muller – former military nurse, mum, speaker, and now a leading voice in the personal development space.
From life on the frontlines to facing her own battles off the field, Nadine’s story is nothing short of powerful. We dive deep into the themes of her new book, A Reason to Rise – a raw and honest look at what it really takes to rise from adversity.
✨ In this episode, we unpack:
How to get out of your head and into your heart
What resilience really looks like (hint: it’s not always pretty)
The healing power of vulnerability
Why adversity can be your biggest teacher.
If you’re going through a tough time, need a reminder of your own strength, or just love a real, unfiltered conversation – this one is for you.
🎧 Tune in now, and make sure you grab a copy of A Reason to Rise – it’s a must-read.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Welcome.
I'm so excited for this chat.
You and I, I think, met nearlythree years ago.
I think it's three years ago.
And there's been such a journeyfor you and you're just
absolutely killing it at themoment as well.
So I'm excited where thisconversation is going to go and
all the things as well.
So welcome.
SPEAKER_00 (00:19):
Thank you so much.
And it's been nice just beforeeven this conversation for us to
be talking and chatting all thethings that has been happening
over the last number of years.
So this will be a beautifulconversation wherever it goes.
SPEAKER_01 (00:30):
Yeah, I know.
Who knows, right?
But firstly, congratulations.
You just released a as well, AReason to Rise, which is super
exciting.
So maybe we can start there.
So talk me through the book andwhat's inspired you to become an
author.
SPEAKER_00 (00:48):
Yeah, look, it is one of those things.
An author journey is, man, it isa cathartic journey for sure.
And I remember a long time agosaying, I'm going to write a
book one day and whenever I'dshare my story with anyone, I
would always go, someone alwayswould say, you need to write a
book.
And I was always saying, Yeah, Iwill.
And I would preach often oneday, oh, you know, turn your one
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days into a day now.
And one day I actually went, I'mbeing that person where I'm not
saying and doing the thing thatI said I'm going to do one day.
So quite literally in thatmoment, in that shift of that
decision, I went all in onstarting my journey to, you
know, authorship and to writinga book.
And fast forward, you know, alot of people say it can take a
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decade.
It will take a whole lifetime.
And whilst I agree, I waswriting my book my whole life
and before this lifetime aswell, actual writing that book
was two years in the making.
And for some people that'sreally fast.
That felt like it was 20 years.
And the reason why I say that isbecause it was healing,
transformation, growth, anunbecoming and a remembering
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like never before.
So now we're here where threemonths since it's launched, it
has made serious waves.
I always say it's got its ownheartbeat.
It's
SPEAKER_02 (02:05):
called...
SPEAKER_00 (02:05):
It's literally a reason to rise.
And when people read that book,yes, it's my story, though they
find parts of themselves in it.
And I'm really, really proud ofit.
And it being a movement rightnow that just, it doesn't even,
it's just, it's growing, it'smoving, it's cathartic, it's
doing its thing
SPEAKER_01 (02:23):
for sure.
I know I was, I've seen yourhead pop up a couple of times
now, both on a bus shelter andin the airport.
And there's something superexciting about when you see
someone you know be an author.
And I think I took a photo bothtimes, like, oh my God, like
super excited for you as well.
How, maybe let's unpack yourjourney a little bit as well.
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And I know that this is, you'relike, where do I even start?
How did you become the Nadinenow and what have what has
shaped you to be the person andthe woman that you are to create
this big movement yeah
SPEAKER_00 (03:02):
how much time how many podcast episodes yeah yeah
look let us I'm gonna I'm
SPEAKER_01 (03:09):
gonna
SPEAKER_00 (03:09):
perhaps rattle off a couple of things of how A Reason
to Rise even got here and howthis story and this journey and
how I have become who we are nowand what our company gets to do
and what our purpose-led missionis and how it has grown its own
arms and legs.
Now, why I called it actually AReason to Rise, it's funny
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because I actually finished thebook before it was called that.
I had many questions.
many uh book names it was goingto be in titles and then it's
actually a bit of a spin-off ofit not being the truth because
there's not a single reason torise so and the reason why i
share that now is because yourwhole life is literally giving
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you reasons your whole story andyour whole tapestry is giving
you experiences to rise if we'rewilling and if we're desiring to
rise from them.
So growing up, again, you know,I like to say that I experienced
now when I look back, I hadbeautiful experiences as a young
girl.
I experienced things that meantI had to grow up really fast.
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I experienced, you know, lifethat meant part of my childhood
was had to be hastened.
I had to grow up in a way thatnow if someone looks at how I am
as a way or as a way of being,it's all about play.
It's all about joy.
It's all about adventure.
It's all about experiencing lifein full expression.
And that is because a lot of mychildhood was me as an adult at
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five or seven or 10 or having tolook after people around me, X,
Y, Z.
Fast forward, as a young adult,I joined the military.
I was an emergency registerednurse.
I was around a lot of trauma.
So So not only did I grow upwith a lot of generational
traumas and a lot of traumasthat I experienced, I then also
chose careers that meant traumawas around me all the time.
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And I actually normalized traumaso much so that I would see some
pretty heavy things in theworkplace.
And personally and bothprofessionally, I was pretty
like numb to it.
And again, most people would saythat's what you have to do and
be when you're in those roles ofbeing a health professional or
being someone that has to dealwith that as an emergency
service you know, personnel,though, though quite literally,
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you know, those things haveshaped the reason to rise
because, and, and me, because Irealized that, hang on, this is
not okay, that I am absolutelyfine with what I've just seen.
So, You know, again, it allows,and this is where the book is
just such a beautiful experiencefor someone to see and feel and
anchor.
What are you experiencing now,whether it's personally, whether
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it's professionally, whetherit's how you've experienced
something in your lifetime thathas allowed you to go, holy
shit.
I need to open up my eyes.
I need to awaken.
I need to rise from whatever itis.
So there's been a lotpersonally, professionally, as a
little person, as a mother, as afriend, as a wife, there's so
many things that we'veexperienced that has led us, led
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me to here that has allowed meto grow and heal.
And then now it's, I can't unseewhat I've seen.
So I have to share that.
I have to be the person that,that wisdom shares and becomes a
light or a beacon for otherpeople to do the same.
SPEAKER_01 (06:23):
I love that so much.
And And it's one of the reasonsI created this podcast is that
you use, like a lot of peoplehave a background and it's like
using that to inspire others andcreate impact in the world.
And I think that's why itresonates so much with you as
well.
And seeing your journey and whatyou've gone through, which I'm
sure so many people can resonatewith as well.
And here you are, it's like,hey, I'm human.
SPEAKER_02 (06:44):
And
SPEAKER_01 (06:45):
this is now what I'm doing.
And you're sharing it.
You're so open and raw andvulnerable in all ways as well.
And you're humanizing scene likeour experience at the same time
if that makes sense.
Yeah,
SPEAKER_00 (06:59):
100%.
You know, there's a lot of menthat are actually also reading
the book at the moment andwhilst they're like, okay, I
can't make sense of, you know, apregnancy riddled with
hyperemesis gravidarum or Ican't make sense of their own
experience of pregnancy loss ormiscarriage or trauma and
related to the feminine, theycan relate with certain things
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outside of that because, again,it's a journey where it's like,
man, you've lived so manylifetimes before the one now We
have to share that because whatif someone else can resonate
with that, whether it's a man,whether it's a friend, whether
it's a colleague, someonepassing down the street.
So many people that have landedin after just seeing the book at
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the airport, looking on thebackground, there's something in
that story that I know I have toread.
And again...
I think it requires all of us todo some type of sharing our
story, whether it's a book,whether it's something else,
whether it's a podcast, whetherit's a purpose, whether it's
simply just, you know, writingan article, whatever it is, we
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need to share it.
SPEAKER_01 (08:01):
I love that.
Where do I even start with someof your journey at the same
time?
So
SPEAKER_00 (08:06):
you were...
Can you see how, like,there's...
I've just touched...
SPEAKER_01 (08:10):
Yeah,
SPEAKER_00 (08:11):
I know.
And you know parts of the story.
Yeah, I do.
It is...
a challenge to put it into onesentence.
SPEAKER_01 (08:18):
Yeah, and I'm listening to your book as well
and there's things that I'mfinding out that I was like, I
didn't even know that.
And all right, maybe let's talkabout your career and your What
was the moment that you're likesomething needs to change here
for you then to step into thisentrepreneur and we'll touch on
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the coaching in a moment aswell.
But like what has been themoment that you're like, do you
know what?
The time is now.
Something needs to shift.
SPEAKER_00 (08:48):
Yeah, this ain't it.
Yeah.
So I had joined the militarywhen I was 17.
And by the time I departed, I'dspent almost 14 years there.
So that's, you know, I grew upin that organization and my
background and my history and mylineage and my bloodline is
hugely about the military.
So it was no surprise to anyonewhen I said, I'm going to join
the military too.
Like if anything, my mom waslike, really?
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Everybody else has, you know,people would say to me before,
that's really brave for you togo to and do that.
Now when I when I actuallyreflect on that, that was
actually the easiest option forme to go and do.
Why?
Because it was so ingrained inme.
So whilst people think that'sreally brave for a young
17-year-old female at that timeto join a very male-oriented
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organisation, it was actuallysafe.
And I really invite anyonelistening to this now, where are
you choosing safe options eventhough everyone around you
thinks it's brave?
Or everyone, you know, how itlooks, it may, like, appeal to
people being like, that's areally brave, courageous thing
to do, though.
Are you doing it because it'sfamiliar?
Are you doing it because it'ssafe?
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Are you doing it because someoneelse did in your family?
It's like then, and the reason Iwant to touch on this is then
nursing.
I had a, you know, again,emergency registered nurse.
Wow.
Like...
I have a whole family full ofnurses.
Do you know what I mean?
Like I, again, followed the pathof other people.
Now, am I super grateful that Idid all of the careers that I,
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at the time, definitely wantedto?
Can I hand on my heart say thatthat's what I wanted to do?
I'm going to say at the time,no, but that is what I knew and
I chose a familiar way of being.
So yes, there was a time in mycareer where I went I am to wig
all the things.
I have got all the accolades,all the achievements.
I've gone and done and been and,you know, ranked and achieved
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and created.
And, you know, even from afinancial standpoint, I had, you
know, purchased my first home at23.
Like I did a lot of things.
And I remember still going...
This ain't it.
This ain't it.
And I remember, you know, then,you know, fast forward, I
transitioned into then becominga mother while I was in the
military.
And that was like, okay, themilitary worked until it didn't.
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The military was great fortravel until I didn't want to be
anywhere other than with my homewith my baby.
The military was great until itwas like, hey, you've chosen to
be an extended breastfeedingmother.
You're now going away.
What are you going to choose?
And I literally had to stopbreastfeeding because I I had to
go away.
When I think about that now, nowI would go, hell no, am I
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choosing a decision like that?
Then I did.
So there were a few personalthings in my motherhood journey,
in my matrescence journey, andthen there was a lot of things
that was happening in mymarriage at the time and a lot
of things that were happeningjust within myself where I just
went, I am...
not fulfilled.
I am not happy.
I go to my workplace and whilstI am great at it, just because
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you're great at somethingdoesn't mean you need to stay.
Just because you can continue toexceed at something that you're
there, just because you couldscale a corporate ladder
perhaps, just because I rememberjust seeing the vision of, okay,
I stay here for the rest of mylife.
This is how it looks like.
And that no longer was like, itwas actually a sacrifice I
wasn't willing to make anymore.
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And, and again, when I waslooking at that, everything has
a trade off.
I was like, this is actuallycosting me too much.
So, and, and it took me a littlebit because, and we talked about
it earlier, the identity of
SPEAKER_01 (12:22):
me
SPEAKER_00 (12:22):
was like alpha female, military mom, woman
that's in the masculine that cando all the things, the great
boss, the leader, the manager.
I also was running the business.
I was doing all these things.
And I realized that it was thebiggest ego identity crisis that
I was actually in, that it waslike, who am I when I'm no
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longer that person?
And I couldn't answer thatquestion.
So I was like, well, that's workthat you've got to do because do
you want to get to the end ofyour life?
I live by a thing of like livewith your end in mind.
And I remember being like, hey,if I'm going to live with the
end in mind, I'm going to be sixfoot under and really not be in
a position where I havewholeheartedly fulfilled what
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I'm here to do.
Right?
And I know you can.
SPEAKER_01 (13:08):
Oh, 100%.
I can relate to that.
And I think when you'reemployed, and I felt like this
for a couple of years and justmade the decision to go
full-time into the business,which has been great.
And with that...
or the ego, Jess, that you'rejust excited as well.
But when you're following acareer path, you know that it's
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not for you or, like, you've gotthat feeling, yet– It's scary as
all fuck to actually make thejump and to do something
different because you alreadyknow what that future looks
like.
And this one, it's theuncertain.
And you're like, you know that,yeah, it's familiar, it's safe,
and at the same time it's notfulfilling.
So there's bravery.
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It's like you're dancing betweenthe lines for quite a long time
before you're like, hang on,something needs to shift.
That future I don't want.
I have no idea what this futureis going to be and I'm just
going to jump and trust God.
It will happen.
SPEAKER_00 (14:03):
Yeah.
You know what I always say toit?
It's like what's the worst thatcould happen?
Like I went, okay, I couldalways go back to the military.
I can always go back to myemergency nursing career.
So I just go back to what I'mdoing now.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, to your baseline.
If your baseline– then go forit.
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Like I just remember being like,how am I going to make this
work?
We had so many things going on.
Like I really touched thesurface.
Dane was experiencing somesignificant mental health
challenges.
Like our life was really ridingon me.
So it was like, okay, right now,Can I make this work?
And here's the thing, and thisis why I love challenge and I'm
sure, you know, talking toresilience and how, you know,
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the reason to rise and theawakening part of you that you
are thankful for challengebecause then it just redirects
you, right?
So there were so many, I callthem life fucks, life
collisions.
There were so many things thathappened all at once and all it
was doing was redirecting me.
And so I like to say that, youknow, If you are placed in a
spot where then you're like, Ihave no other option except to
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make this, I get excited forpeople when people are there.
Because when there's safe boatsand when you can put on a life
jacket and kind of be like, oh,just go over here for a bit, it
makes it harder to make thedecision.
Whereas for me, my decision wasreally a life and death one.
for people around me.
And it was one where I was like,if I don't make some serious
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moves, there's some bigcollateral damage.
So again, for me, I wasn'twilling to make those sacrifices
anymore.
And if anything, if I didn't, itwould be it's like wiping your
hands clean of some big thingsthat could have happened and
shaped my life and not just mylife then, my husband's and my
kids.
So, you know, again, I guess,you know, making it tangible for
people that are listening andmaking sure that people really
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take away some things from this.
If you're at a crossroads, evenif you are in a great job and a
safe, secure position, and thenI want to say this again because
you're the same, I was the same,I know so many people, even if
you are great at what you do andeverybody tells you, But you're
great at this.
Like, you're an amazing nurse.
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You're an amazing leader.
You're an amazing officer.
You're an amazing this.
Like, you get to go, yeah, Iknow.
The internal.
And that's, I know.
Should I live my life becauseI'm great at it?
And just do it because everybodyelse, you know, receives
something from that?
Or how about me?
Do you know what I mean?
I think it's really importantyou get to ask that question to
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yourself.
Like, what about me?
Am I really fulfilled doingthis?
And here's the thing.
Your life is giving you cluesthe whole time.
All those things that I wasdoing, like now where I'm going
with or what I do now in servingpeople, I've been doing it my
whole life.
I've been leading people mywhole life.
I've been guiding people throughsome big things their whole
life.
Just my ikigai and my life wasjust beautifully allowing me to
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be guided down those paths.
SPEAKER_01 (17:04):
How do you– Like I know you've got an incredible
mindset and you do see thesilver linings and, you know,
everything is happening for meand rather than to me and you're
like, okay, well, there's thewhispers and the signs always.
When big things happen, how doyou find– the courage I don't
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know the right word here thecourage or the bravery or the
mindset to actually see that andthe lesson at the same time
because when you're in it you'rein it and you're like what the
fuck is going on how do youactually see it
SPEAKER_00 (17:40):
you know um People often, like it'll be, if I ever
leave a question for someone toask me, it'll always be like,
what mindset hack can you giveme?
And I'm like, I'll tell you themindset hack I can give you.
It's get the fuck out of yourmind.
Quieten your mind.
Don't actually work in the mind.
And I can say that because thatwas me for a really long time.
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I was like, I will think and doand action and like hustle my
way out of this.
And it's not until you're kindof out the other, well,
definitely you're out the otherside of that, that you realize
it's the mind that you've got toconquer.
It's the mountain of yourselfthat you've got to conquer.
So, you know, for anyonelistening to this, if you're
someone that's like, okay, I'vegot to change my mindset, I
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actually want you to actuallyreframe it all together and go,
where can I actually quieten mymind?
Where can I actually move out ofhere and move into here?
Where can I actually trust here?
Where can I actually trust myintuition?
What does my, what does myinner, I call it like your own
inner compass not the like yourown inner oracle not the deck of
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cards that you're putting out topull out to give you the answers
I'm talking your own inner inneroracle if you were to put your
own fucking spread of your inneroracle out what does she want
what does what's the decisionthat you've got to make not what
makes logical sense you know Imore than ever probably now more
than ever um you know, I'mmaking decisions that people
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like, whoa, that's like, but whywould you do that?
That doesn't make sense.
Retiring things, closing thingsdown, opening new things, doing
just, just playing.
Okay.
And I'm
SPEAKER_01 (19:17):
laid at the game of life.
SPEAKER_00 (19:19):
Literally, literally.
And it's like, I'm not operatingfrom here.
There's the, like, I willliterally go, I don't, okay,
what does this say?
What does this say?
And when we're operating fromthis energy versus this, holy
moly.
And it's not to say that youdon't utilize that to, you know,
make logical sense of things.
Again, take calculated risks.
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But I'm telling you, when I gotout of here and started
operating out of here, lifechanged.
And then like how you manifestand how you create change, how
you move change.
And then as your question is,it's like when you encounter
change, Yeah.
Yeah.
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not just yourself, identities,past versions, you know, your
lineage, your bloodline.
There may be so many things thatyou have to release.
Yeah.
Though your mind doesn't knowhow to do this.
These two do.
SPEAKER_01 (20:27):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (20:27):
So it's just an invitation.
Because it depends where you'reat on your journey, right?
A lot of people are talkingmindset and that's cool.
You will arrive to a place whereit's no longer mindset.
Mindset is purely a distraction.
Mindset is a layer that hasn'tyet reached intuition and inner
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oracle.
SPEAKER_01 (20:48):
So how do you tap into that more?
Because I know, and I'm guiltyof this as well, where you do
think things and you're like,okay, what is the logical step?
What do I need to do?
And when you listen to yourbody, it's a completely
different story.
And when you tap into that, sohow do you tap into that?
SPEAKER_00 (21:06):
So I want to first of all say this, notice how
force and doing energy and, youknow, living in the state of
what makes logical sense andutilizing mindset to make
decisions is very, well, it's ata dimension that most people can
grasp, right?
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And because you already have theanswer of what it could look
like.
That then caps people of whatthat could look like.
Whereas the opposite is thetrust and the knowing and the
surrender and the deep, youknow, I'm going to say reservoir
of access that you have.
And I'll go down the how in aminute.
Though even that, people areseeking the how.
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And if anyone is telling you orstanding before you saying this
is exactly what you do, you werebought that mission, you
unsubscribe from that spacebecause they don't have the
answers you do.
Do you know what I mean?
It's like how people tap intotheir...
how people tap into their inneroracle or whatever, you know,
different people wish to, youknow, call it or label it as,
you know, that is a uniquelydivinely discovering experience
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that only you can excavate andthat only you can remember.
Though what in all aspects itrequires is this stillness,
spaciousness, solitude.
So soul with an S-O-U-L.
And how many people are actuallydoing that these days?
Like how can we actually hearanything if we wish to receive
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downloads or we wish to hearwhat our intuition or our inner
compass or our spirit or ourdivine being is?
How are you meant to listen whenwe're racing, when we're
running, when we're forcing,when we're operating out of
here?
Because here is an immediatelike block.
I'm not listening.
I only want to make sense of theoutcome that I know.
The other one is, as you said,it's limitless.
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It is, you know, well, it's thelife that we're living now.
I would never.
So I shared about this recently.
I talked about, you know, moneybeliefs and healing your
relationship with money.
And a lot of the beliefs thatpeople had was people because I
dropped a Q&A box and it waslike, what's your current belief
of money that you know is a lieor whatever else?
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A lot of people dropped in, I'vegot to go harder, work harder.
If I want to make double mymoney, then I have to work
double as hard.
And I totally can resonate thatbecause this has been in the
past, so I might totally get it.
But it's like at one point awhile ago, I had 23x my income,
right?
And I remember when people hadpopped that in, I went, do you
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think I worked 23 jobs?
SPEAKER_02 (23:44):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (23:45):
From me to 23x my income?
Absolutely not.
What I've learned and what Itapped into is a way of being
that had nothing to do withlogic, that had nothing to do
with my mind.
That does not make sense.
Like that does not make sense,right?
And again, if we're operatingfrom mind versus operating from
what could be like limitlessenergy, then those things start
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to become really normal.
So I guess the very first thingthat anyone needs to do is check
in on yourself with how much youare Forcing, racing, running,
doing everything that aren'tthose three S's.
Like how much do you sit instillness?
And I'm not talking to likekumbaya.
Like I am still, I'm a veryambitious woman.
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So I still do all those things.
Though it's creating space andtime where you have stillness,
you have space.
So space.
And I'm not even just talkinglike.
So silence.
Yes.
I'm even talking about space inyour home.
Like.
How much clutter do you have?
How many things do you have?
How many clothes do you have?
How many friends do you havethat are not, you know, fueling
your success or fueling yourexpansion?
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You know, I talk about pruningthe garden.
So some of the first things thatyou can do now if you want to
tap into self is like look atyour life.
Do an energetic cleanup.
Start letting go of stuff andwatch the space that opens up.
So that's what I mean byspaciousness.
As well as if you want to frolicin the gardens, have space, go
and do that.
Though I'm talking about actualspace.
energetic space.
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Do you know what I mean?
And, again, that's the healing.
That's the growth.
That's the transformation.
Just start there because, again,people think that they've got to
do these big things in order toget there.
If you just started with thosethree things, you'll actually be
well on your way to listeningand hearing, quieting this, and
then listening to these.
SPEAKER_01 (25:30):
I think you touched on such a really great point
there where especially careerwomen, and I know that we're
talking more about women here aswell because I feel like it's so
front of mind at the moment forme and you as well, that we are
like, oh, you have to do A, B,C, D to get that.
And, you know, like if you're amom, like you've got to drop off
kids, do everything.
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You've got to wear all the hats.
And it's about the being, so theslowing down and tap back into
your feminine nature as well.
And what, Nadine?
Jean just mentioned there aboutthat inner knowing and that mine
is different to Nadine's andit's going to be different to
the listeners as well.
And so that's when people followa certain path, it's because of
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the people before them have donethat path, but that isn't true
to you.
And so when you quiet it downand tap into that, it's like,
well, who am I?
Yes.
And what do I need to remove?
And everything like that.
So yeah, everyone is individual.
And when you actually do that,you get...
those messages and
SPEAKER_00 (26:32):
what you need to do.
Yes, and you receive the answer.
And you said it great, like askyourself often, like when was
the last time, whenever I jumpon a call with someone or I'm
learning who they are, I'm liketell me who you are and then
they'll be telling me all thelabels and I'm like no, no, no,
tell me who you really are.
Like without mother, withoutcareer woman, without business
owner, without entrepreneur,without wife, all those, like
then who you are at the core?
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Who are you at the essence?
What do you like doing for fun?
Like if you had nothing, how didyou spend your time during– you
know, some big events that havehappened recently or in more
recent years.
Like tell me if you're givenhours to spend with nothing, no
phones or nothing, what do youdo with your time?
If someone was to reflect onyour behaviors and your values
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and your daily rituals, whatwould they say your priorities
are?
Do you know what I mean?
Like if someone was to– wouldsomeone bet on you if they
watched how you move during theday?
And when I say move, in allaspects, in all areas of your
life.
Like just start asking yourselfsome really big loaded
questions.
You know, you can start askingyourself, holy shit, last year I
said January.
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It's now fucking March.
What am I doing?
Oh, my God, it's wild.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, okay, hang on, last week Isaid Monday.
It's now Wednesday.
I still haven't done the thing.
Like start asking yourself andhaving the courage, which we've
spoken about, having the, youknow, the– awareness your own
self-awareness to go where am Iactually not willing to ask
myself not by anyone else hardquestions or questions that I
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must and I need to answer inorder to rise or in order to
expand or in order to whateverit is that you want to do and
therein you'll you'll see anyblock any any issue that you
know you're choosing to you knowstow away excavate keep keep
away in a in a nice little tidybox perhaps for later and it's
like well that's the issue it'sit's you're doing things later.
SPEAKER_01 (28:18):
And that's where the work comes in, right?
And sometimes that's the hardpart is actually going,
something needs to change here.
What needs to change?
And stepping into that.
And people fear change and theyhave to face some truths that
they might not want to hear.
And yeah, that's up to you.
And at the same time, if youhave that burning desire, it's
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required what you need to do.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (28:43):
think like what is it about I have such an
interesting view on it toothough it's like what is it
about change that people notlike and again it's as you know
it's the it's the it's the, Idon't know what that's going to
look like.
I'm so used to this.
All right.
It's like, you know how peoplesay fear of success.
I actually, I, I have nowcoached that many women and men
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and couples and whole familyunits.
So I'm going to speak into womenbecause we're talking
predominantly about women today.
I'm going to say it is less morethan ever now, fear of success
and actually about fear of liketheir power.
Like, like, What would you calltheir potential fear of who do I
become when I actually am fullyme?
And the reason why I say that isbecause whenever I pose that
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question, I'm like, are youfearing success?
Are you actually fearing whatyou've got to let go of, who
you've got to let go of?
And it's often a relationship.
It's often friendships.
It's often identities.
It's so many things.
I'm telling you.
Yes, the world is saying it'sfear of success and fear of
everything else.
I'm telling you it's fear ofpeople discovering their power
and what that means for themwhen they do because that's
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scary.
When women step into theirpower, it's a lot.
And if they do thatunapologetically, like untamed,
like if they do that in a waywhere it's like there's no going
back, there is also beautifulshedding in that and that is
what I believe people are scaredof.
SPEAKER_01 (30:11):
Yeah.
I love that so much and it'sbecause I feel it's because
we've been taught to aweourselves be quiet or you're a
little bit too much.
Just tone it down a little bit.
So, so many more women now arefinding their voice and stepping
into their power and saying, doyou know what?
This is me and this is what I'mhere to do.
If you don't like it, see youlater type thing.
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And you're right.
I think people are worried aboutthat and what that actually
means for the people around themas well.
SPEAKER_00 (30:38):
Yes.
Like they're like, holy shit.
I'm my best friend is not goingto like that.
Holy shit.
My husband's not going to likethat.
Holy shit.
What does that mean for my kids?
Oh my gosh, that would mean Ihave to change my job or my
career.
Holy shit, that would mean theideal I have around this group
of people, like so much.
And yeah, if you want what yousay that you want, you have to
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be willing to let go of thethings that aren't going to
serve you any longer.
SPEAKER_01 (31:05):
How do you know if you're in your power and how do
you step into it?
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (31:11):
What we mentioned before is that a deep knowing.
There is not a– you cannotdescribe it.
You just– it moves you notbecause you have to think of how
you should move.
You are already moving in it.
It's like think about a personthat you don't even– you haven't
seen them walk into a room.
Though they've walked into aroom, you haven't seen them and
you just know that they'rethere.
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So I'm not talking aboutexternally.
I want you to notice when youjust know that.
Like, it's so like, I want, evenif you're listening right now, I
want you to close your eyes andwonder, have you ever
experienced that outside of you?
And have you ever experiencedwhere you've been that?
And you're just like, oh, andyou've made an impact with less
(31:55):
words.
You've made an impact withperhaps no words.
You've been a way that you'veso, you're like, did I just say
that?
Or did I just be that?
Or did that just happen in mypresence or with my authority or
with my way of being or with mystillness?
Did that just happen in someoneelse by me being exactly who I
am?
SPEAKER_02 (32:13):
And
SPEAKER_00 (32:15):
that's it.
You're like, there's no way to,I've been asked this question on
podcasts many times, right?
And it's like, you can'tactually describe that because
it's a treasure trove that islike- And you can see it, you
know, you can see it in otherswhen people are there and it's
so beautiful when someone's justactivated it.
(32:36):
And then more than activated it,you know, then it becomes a
thing where it's like turns on,turns off, turns on, turns off.
And then when you've masteredit, it's just, that's just you.
SPEAKER_02 (32:46):
And
SPEAKER_00 (32:46):
it's not to say you then have peaks and troughs of
beautiful, like, though then itbecomes a dance of your feminine
masculine energy and that's it.
Though your power or yourability to just operate at this
beautiful self-blasted level isjust always, that's your
baseline.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah, again, I want everyoneto just take that moment, even
if that freaking pauses rightnow and be like, where have I
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experienced that?
Where can I anchor that more?
Where do you feel that in yourbody?
And do more of that.
Evidence stack that.
SPEAKER_01 (33:13):
As soon as you said that, I'm like, I know exactly
what you're talking about.
You
SPEAKER_00 (33:17):
can feel it.
SPEAKER_01 (33:17):
You can feel someone's presence.
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (33:21):
And again, now that I've said it, Allow yourself to
be curious more of it around youbecause then you'll start to
identify people that are in.
And what's the greatest thingwhen you start to see it outside
of you?
You start to mirror it.
You start to see ways thatyou're like, oh, I loved how
they did that.
I loved how they responded withthat.
And then when you're curious ofthat, you can actually model it
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from others first, see how itfeels within you, and then
create your own way of power.
SPEAKER_01 (33:49):
So great.
Yeah, I'm just like, I'm justdigesting.
You saw like my mind just tick,tick, tick there,
SPEAKER_00 (33:56):
didn't you?
I saw it.
I
SPEAKER_01 (33:59):
didn't hear it.
I
SPEAKER_00 (34:02):
saw it.
Yeah, it's
SPEAKER_01 (34:03):
there.
You mentioned about all thedifferent hats and the labels
and the boxes.
So pretty big question.
Who is Nadine and what is yourpersonal mission?
SPEAKER_00 (34:13):
Yeah.
So here's the thing, guys.
What if someone was to sharewith you it's, you have come
here for a reason.
You are here, whether it's yoursixth lifetime, seventh
lifetime, or you believe that,you know, you've come here and
this is your first, okay?
However that rings true for you.
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Every single person, whether youlike it or not, is here to
create change within humanity.
Now, how that looks, looksdifferent for some people.
Some people are going to be loudand proud like us and create
platforms and voices and sharewisdoms this way.
Some people, it's going to be intheir home with how they parent
and with how they leadthemselves and their families.
(34:56):
Some people will be in aclassroom, whatever it is.
Then there's others, okay, andI'll speak for me here, who
decide that it's not one thingand who decide that they will
enter this lifetime and the manyafter it, because I know that my
work here will be beyond thisrealm.
You're like, yes.
(35:18):
Who it's not so much what youdo, it's what happens in others
when you do what you do.
So yes, we run retreats.
Yes, we run incredibletransformative experiences.
Yes, we bring people together.
We create communities.
Yes, I write books and I share,I wisdom teach and preach.
(35:43):
Though it's more I've come hereto share a message and it's
through story and it's throughresonance and it's through a
heartbeat that just beats.
Even if I didn't, I say this tomy colleagues and friends and
partner and all the things, evenif I didn't want to do this, I
can't not.
Like even if someone was tostrap me up.
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It's driving you.
It's intrinsic.
It's not, motivation's notrunning this.
This is out of body embodiment.
Like, just hear that.
This is an out-of-bodyexperience that is so embodied
because it's a soul's, you know,contract at work.
So, you know, people say to me,you know, you work a lot.
(36:24):
And I'm like, I don't feel likeI work at all.
And, again, what work used to beand what work is now is totally
different.
I've definitely refined andchanged.
It's gone from, like, doing allthe things to being really clear
on the handful of beautifulthings that I get to serve my
mission into this world.
you know, it's less about all ofit and it's more about the
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refinement of wherever I get togo, whether it's at the coffee
shop, whether it's here doingthis, whether it's someone that
picks up the book that I'llnever, ever meet, whether it's
the legacy that I leave behindwell after this, whether it's
the way in which I'm nurturingmy children.
Again, you know, it's knowingthat the work isn't actually
(37:10):
something.
And again, I want people toresonate with this.
I don't go, now I'm a mom.
Now I'm the boss.
Now I'm the leader.
Now I'm the coach.
Now I'm the friend.
I don't hat wear.
And I want to just get, I wantto just abolish even that
statement.
What is this statement thatwe're talking about hat wearing?
(37:31):
And I get it because a pastversion of me used to be like,
fuck.
And I had so many hats on myhead that I looked like Dr.
Seuss, right?
There was so many.
Though it gets to a point if youbuild your internal compass and
your mastery enough that yourpurpose, your labels, if you
wish to choose them or not,they're you.
And when you've arrived at thatnirvana in this lifetime and you
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realise you get to share, topreach, to teach, to whatever,
you arrive at a place where forme I get paid to exist and be
me.
Do you know what I mean?
And I think that's a really...
For some people, they go, buthow?
And that's your purpose.
Everyone gets to arrive there.
Like I know that that's reallyloaded, though everyone gets to
(38:14):
arrive there.
And, again, I've done so manyloops and changes of that,
though it's all brought me tothere.
And it's a purpose and a knowingthat I want everyone to
experience because then itbecomes effortless.
Then it becomes flowful.
Then it becomes you're notexchanging or removing a hat.
(38:34):
And again, if you found yourselfsaying, hey, I'm wearing this
hat now, now I've got to take itoff.
What if all of those hats got togo?
What if the part of you.
that has a fucking hat cupboardfull of hats just went, I'm
going to burn all youmotherfuckers to the ground.
I don't want all of your hatsbecause I just get to wear the
you hat, the me hat.
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And I'm going to super glue thathat to my head if I have to and
I'm going to choose that I'm notallowed to put any other hats on
there because I get toeffortlessly flow in all of
those without removing, moving afreaking hat.
Again, what if everyone got tocome to there with their
purpose?
Because then do you see howthat's healing in your home,
(39:17):
that's healing relationships,that's healing money beliefs,
that's healing friendships,that's healing the world?
Absolutely.
Have you ever had anyone answerit like that?
SPEAKER_01 (39:28):
No.
And like also recognising thatyou've been on this journey for
a while and you articulate it sobeautifully and it's for someone
that's just starting on theirjourney, you're just like, well,
how can I be me and show up asme when I have to fit in a box
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of corporate or I have to fit inthe box here?
And that's where owning yourpower and knowing who you are
comes like it's so important sothen when you are going into
that environment you can stillbe you and show up rather than
you know dimming the light typething um while you're there
SPEAKER_00 (40:08):
yes and i think you've touched on a really
important key aspect there ofwhere in every area of your life
are you not being
SPEAKER_02 (40:19):
you
SPEAKER_00 (40:20):
and and therein as an opportunity for you to go,
whoa, that's where I steer off.
That's where I've got to comeback in alignment.
All of this and all of reallywhat we've shared today and what
we're speaking about is all justalignment,
SPEAKER_01 (40:32):
going back
SPEAKER_00 (40:32):
to trusting, feeling, energetically going,
you know what, that's not forme.
That's not the highest selfversion of me that wants to go
there.
And again, whether you're at thestart of your journey or you're
Because, again, right now one ofmy favourite things is actually
leading people that have been onthe journey for a while and
they're like,
SPEAKER_02 (40:49):
oh,
SPEAKER_00 (40:49):
this again?
I'm dealing with this again?
You know, we recently went tothe States and, you know, we're
delving into some big work againourselves and just, you know,
opening up some things that, youknow, we decided to live in.
And it's just a reminder of,like, it is forever.
Yeah.
It is a never-ending journey.
(41:10):
And, again, I practice this, Ipreach it.
Forever a student, forever thelearner, forever the beginner,
forever the person that wishesto just go,
SPEAKER_02 (41:19):
ah,
SPEAKER_00 (41:20):
there it is again.
Ah, I see it.
And then, you know, those thatwe get to, you know, lead and
guide, when I see a past versionof me doing what I was doing,
then I go, that's why he or sheor them, if it's a couple, are
here.
And it heals the part of you andthat's what's beautiful.
Like, again, I know you get toexperience this with, you know,
coaching and mentoring.
(41:41):
It's like the parts of you thatget to heal is your supporting
and guiding and leading peoplethrough theirs.
Yeah.
And you just go, oh, that justunlocks something for me.
Thank you.
I know.
It's so beautiful.
In a transmission about someoneelse, you know, and that's what
we're all here to do.
And that's what I mean byimagine if everyone locked in on
that purpose for themselves.
UNKNOWN (41:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (42:00):
There's opportunities to learn in every
single interaction and growth isa continuous thing.
Like people go, oh, I've readthat book.
I won't read any more booksagain.
No, you'll get the next onebecause it's– and that's like–
that's life.
There's always more to uncover.
There's more to learn, unlearn,pivot, change, whatever it is.
There's always– yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (42:21):
And you know what?
I want to say this because– Reada book that you have read maybe
a few years ago that you likedand read it again years later
because you are a differentperson.
You then have, you know,provided that you've gone on the
growth journey.
So this is really for those thathave been on a growth journey
or, you know, you invest intopersonal and professional
development.
Read it years down the track andyou will hear a totally
(42:44):
different story.
I did this with one of ourclients, you know, Untamed by
Glennon Doyle.
It's just a great book and it'sa great beginner's book, I'm
going to say, that when you readthat book Yeah.
So true.
Yeah.
(43:14):
And
SPEAKER_01 (43:16):
that is so good because everyone and also your
message from that book is goingto be different to my message.
It's the same book, but you andI, we didn't read the same book
either.
No.
And then when we read it again,it's totally different.
SPEAKER_00 (43:28):
You know, this will sound funny for people.
It's like how do we know thatred's red?
How do I know when you say redthat you're seeing red?
SPEAKER_01 (43:36):
I know.
I don't know.
Who said that that's red?
I
SPEAKER_00 (43:38):
love this conversation, yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
Like yellow, okay, giallo inFrench.
Italy or like, I'm like,
SPEAKER_01 (43:46):
who,
SPEAKER_00 (43:47):
you know, and this is a conversation for another
day.
SPEAKER_01 (43:50):
It's a rabbit hole conversation, which I absolutely
love.
And as soon as I opened that up,I could actually go so deep into
it as well, which is great atthe same time, right?
What is existence?
How is this work and everythingthat you stand for, everything
that you believe in every partof your being?
(44:14):
and supported those around youand your family and the impact
of the people that you get tohelp as well.
SPEAKER_00 (44:23):
You know, and this is why I'm big about building
leaders or building people thatare in these spaces and build
heart-led businesses of servingpeople, right?
Because we don't want to be theonly ones that are doing it.
We want to create more peoplethat are out there in their
communities, right?
And so what's really cool is youstart this process your own
process of healing andremembering.
(44:43):
And you realize that, holy shit,the ripple effect is so big.
And so initially whilst it wasfor me and then whilst it was,
you know, for my husband, likemy marriage, my husband and I
and our kids.
And then, you know, further thanthat, obviously it went down my
lineage and my bloodlines.
And I was able to, you know, tapinto and connect with people
that in this lifetime I've neverknown in my family.
(45:07):
Then it was like, I call thiswork healing.
omnidirectional so it's likeit's not just you it's not the
future generations it's past youit's it's like it's it's the
pandemic that you actually wantright like it's it's the ripple
effect within your friendshipsyour networks your your like the
(45:28):
people that you cross paths within the street I like again it is
so profound what happens andthen when you if if you choose
to make a mission of it whereit's then about serving others
Like the fulfillment from thatis just beyond what words can
even say.
It's an internal fulfillmentthat is like when you get to the
(45:51):
end of your life.
Remember how I spoke about Ireally live with the end in mind
really morbidly, thoughbeautifully.
At the end of the day, we're allgoing to end up either in a box
or six foot under or we'redeciding to spread our ashes
somewhere or, you know, we'reall going to end there.
And it's what you do in betweenthat time that matters is what
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you're worrying about orworshipping that you're worrying
about going to matter whenyou're there.
I know for me I'll get to theend of my life whenever that is
because for any one of us itcould be at any moment.
I'll get to the end of thislifetime and go, you know what?
I know Hannah, my heart, I ledto my fullest of breath.
(46:35):
I, I, I supported, shared mystory, walks, truths, guided,
helped, supported so many, somany.
We're about to do it thisweekend, next week, every, every
day, whenever.
And again, we all do it.
If you're jumping on yoursocials and you're speaking a
story and you're sharing a truthor you're, you're just speaking
your, your, your truth, you'redoing it by doing that.
(46:56):
Yeah.
So, You know, it is the biggestinvitation for anyone in
whatever capacity that you'rechoosing to do it.
When you heal you, you heal allthose around you.
And for some people, withoutthem even doing a single thing.
So, like, I've reallybeautifully shared my mum's
journey online a fair bit.
(47:17):
You know, I'm half-philos.
I've got, like, the philo mumvibe.
Like, she's a vibe.
And without her doing anyhealing work, There's been so
much healing for her without herdoing a retreat, without her
doing anything purely becausewithin her bloodline, her
daughter chose to heal somereally big things.
(47:37):
I remember coming out of abreath work and my mum was
totally different.
I came home and went...
I did the breathwork.
She didn't do the breathwork.
Though through that breathwork,I met her seven-year-old self
and it was huge.
And I just, I'm not kidding.
My mum's, she's an older ladynow, but I'm talking, there was,
there were some lines here thatwere gone.
(47:59):
It's just beautiful.
Again, I...
I
SPEAKER_01 (48:02):
get like goosebumps just even thinking about all
this.
Yeah.
It's just...
SPEAKER_00 (48:06):
Yeah.
Or like, you know, you get to bethe conduit of your loved ones
connecting with loved ones andthe next minute mum's like, oh,
I dreamed about this.
And I'm like, wow, I literallysaw that in my breath work.
Like you open, you just open avessel or a way for people to
connect with people that theyhaven't connected with before.
And, again, I grew up in a veryCatholic household.
(48:27):
My mum is devout Catholic.
Though through these, myparents, of spirit and faith and
my own, you know, view of how Isee the divine now and my
creator and my God, right, she'sopened her eyes to what her
faith is.
To be honest, she has deepenedher faith in the Catholic
(48:50):
religion through a deepenedexperience of things that she
was like, wow, And again, that'sfor her journey.
And that's not to say thateveryone, you know, again, it
just allows you to crack wideopen.
And I think...
that is the ripple effect thatwe all get to go, well, then I
must, I have to, I'm going to.
SPEAKER_01 (49:10):
Yeah.
And I love that about your mumas well because like and you
said that she spends a lot oftime with you as well and she
probably sees that in you aswell and it's like the power of
proximity at the same time andyou being you, you're showing
her a completely different waythat she might not have seen
before or been a part of beforeand that in itself is incredibly
(49:31):
powerful.
A hundred
SPEAKER_00 (49:33):
percent.
And again, whether it's yourmum, your dad, your brother,
your friend, your younger self.
I just want everyone, you knowme, I know you're the same.
We just want to shake people andgo, I want you to see, like I
know that you can't see what Isee, though I want you to feel,
see and experience what I get tofeel, see and experience every
day.
(49:54):
And everyone's on their ownjourney and they're on their own
path and they're meant to do andexperience exactly how they're
meant to.
So when they arrive at a placethat allows them to see and feel
and experience what is theirNevada, it's beautiful.
SPEAKER_01 (50:07):
So I've been on this journey now for years and we met
a few years ago now and mysister just completed the course
that you and I did last week.
So it's like...
You know, I think by me showingup as me, she's now like, I need
(50:29):
to create change.
This is what I'm going to do.
She went home.
Her husband's now going to doit.
And I get like teary even justthinking about it.
They've got three little kids.
And I just think about by mebeing me.
showed her a different way, thatthen she goes home, that then
shows her husband a differentway, that then now creates a
different upbringing for herthree little kids.
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And that is the power of thiswork.
Like by you just showing up, youdon't have to, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (50:58):
Like that's what I mean by that should be the
greatest pandemic getting aroundright now.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
And, you know, I will say it'salways– Personal development is
becoming a beautiful trend,which I love.
I'm like, if there's going to bea trend, I love that it's not
the Kate Moss trend.
It's not the, you know, drug andalcohol.
(51:19):
Like there is obviously goingto, that's always going to be a
thing for a lot of people,though there is a trend right
now in the youth and the youngergeneration and it's personal
development.
And I'm like, and breath workand meditation and all of this
stuff.
And I'm just like, yes, do youguys know how great you have it
that this becomes a standard,this becomes a normal and the
people that you admire or thatyou look up to or that you know,
(51:41):
mentors in the community in anyway, in your sporting fields, in
wherever, literally engaging inthese beautiful practices, you
know, delving into the work,whatever that looks like.
And however deep it gets to looklike, if we're just going to sit
in the mindset, perfect, that'sbetter than not.
If we're going to sit deeper inthe treasure trove, awesome.
Though they're on the journey.
And I think that's what'sreally, really exciting because
(52:03):
we didn't have that.
Do you know what I mean?
Like that was like personaldevelopment.
SPEAKER_02 (52:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (52:08):
It wasn't so readily available like it is now, and
that's why I scream it from therooftops.
People have got access to stuffall the way.
We know unlimited people thatare sharing free, beautiful ways
of being.
Absorb it.
Get in it.
SPEAKER_01 (52:24):
Get in it.
Get in it and absorb it andembody it.
Yes.
Yes.
Sorry.
My God, we've spoken about somany different things.
I know.
A while.
We've spoken about so manydifferent things.
What's one thing that you wouldhope our listeners take away
(52:47):
from this message and thisconversation?
SPEAKER_00 (52:49):
We've gone down many nooks and crannies.
SPEAKER_01 (52:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (52:55):
I will say this.
You cannot create the life thatyou truly want for yourself
without like others around you,your purpose, your ikigai, the
money that you might want, therelationship that you might
want, all the things, if youcontinue, yes, to reject the
person within it.
(53:16):
So I guess there's no way aroundit.
You cannot circumnavigate it.
You can have all the force.
You can have all theachievement.
You can have all the things.
And you will arrive at a place,even with all those shiny
objects, and still go, there'ssomething missing.
And the reason why I say rejectis because most people, that's a
later thing.
(53:37):
Or they're like, oh, that canhappen later.
So what if, whilst the worldwill tell you, go and do that
strategy, go and do that, go andbuild that business, go and do
that, what if the purpose alsobecomes you?
What if the reason, a reason torise is actually you?
And from that point, Holy moly.
All those areas of life, if youwant to call it a life wheel or
(53:59):
if you simply just want to callit the beautiful essence of what
this life is all about, everysingle area, every layer of it,
every beautiful thing that youget to experience and endure,
what if you're the center point?
Every mountain, that's you thatyou've got to conquer.
Every experience, that's simplyyou that you've got to conquer.
Every mirror, that is simply youthe whole time.
When people can arrive there,whoo, This conversation, the
(54:23):
internal belief, the internaltapping, the spirit, the
solitude, the stillness, thespaciousness, that will actually
set you in great stead, morethan great stead.
That will actually be thepivotal moment that will, you
know, everyone's asking for thetime collapse, everyone's asking
for the quantum leap.
UNKNOWN (54:40):
What if it's you?
SPEAKER_00 (54:42):
It is you.
What if the only thing stoppingit is you?
It is you.
Gentlemen, it's not the time,it's not the kids, it's not the
husband, it's not the...
the event that happened on theweekend.
It's not the cyclone.
It's not COVID.
SPEAKER_01 (54:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (54:55):
How many people in COVID during that time
flourished?
How many people were stuck?
There were people that decidedand there were people that
didn't.
And ultimately they decidedthem.
SPEAKER_01 (55:07):
Yeah.
I love that so much.
I think that is a beautiful...
Ending to the conversation aswell.
And yeah, your book isincredible.
So listeners, highly recommendto get your hands on it and read
it as well.
SPEAKER_00 (55:21):
There's a lot to it.
You've got to strap yourself inand there's...
It goes deep straight up.
Yeah, it does.
And that's important.
That's what I'm about.
Yeah,
SPEAKER_01 (55:32):
and it's beautiful.
And I really appreciate yourtime today.
I've absolutely loved theconversation and I'll put in
like where people can contactyou as well on it as well.
So thank you so much for yourtime.
SPEAKER_00 (55:44):
Thank you so much for creating spaces where people
get to share their mission andtheir purpose and share their
truths and stories.
And if you're listening to thisand we spoke about it before, if
you're listening to this rightnow and you are a podcast
listener, where are youlistening to all the things and
not applying things?
That's what you said.
Where are you doing all thepersonal development but then
(56:05):
not applying the things thatyou're learning?
Where are you not embodying thethings?
So, you know, if you've heardsomething today and you've wrote
it down, great.
What are you then going to dowith it?
What information have you nowgot that you're going to
implement or take action on?
Do that right now before youlisten to another episode.
SPEAKER_01 (56:19):
Yeah, that's perfect.
Thank you.
Bye.
UNKNOWN (56:24):
Bye.
Welcome.
I'm so excited for this chat.
You and I, I think, met nearlythree years ago.
I think it's three years ago.
And there's been such a journeyfor you and you're just
absolutely killing it at themoment as well.
So I'm excited where thisconversation is going to go and
all the things as well.
So welcome.
SPEAKER_00 (00:19):
Thank you so much.
And it's been nice just beforeeven this conversation for us to
be talking and chatting all thethings that has been happening
over the last number of years.
So this will be a beautifulconversation wherever it goes.
SPEAKER_01 (00:30):
Yeah, I know.
Who knows, right?
But firstly, congratulations.
You just released a as well, AReason to Rise, which is super
exciting.
So maybe we can start there.
So talk me through the book andwhat's inspired you to become an
author.
SPEAKER_00 (00:48):
Yeah, look, it is one of those things.
An author journey is, man, it isa cathartic journey for sure.
And I remember a long time agosaying, I'm going to write a
book one day and whenever I'dshare my story with anyone, I
would always go, someone alwayswould say, you need to write a
book.
And I was always saying, Yeah, Iwill.
And I would preach often oneday, oh, you know, turn your one
(01:11):
days into a day now.
And one day I actually went, I'mbeing that person where I'm not
saying and doing the thing thatI said I'm going to do one day.
So quite literally in thatmoment, in that shift of that
decision, I went all in onstarting my journey to, you
know, authorship and to writinga book.
And fast forward, you know, alot of people say it can take a
(01:31):
decade.
It will take a whole lifetime.
And whilst I agree, I waswriting my book my whole life
and before this lifetime aswell, actual writing that book
was two years in the making.
And for some people that'sreally fast.
That felt like it was 20 years.
And the reason why I say that isbecause it was healing,
transformation, growth, anunbecoming and a remembering
(01:55):
like never before.
So now we're here where threemonths since it's launched, it
has made serious waves.
I always say it's got its ownheartbeat.
It's
SPEAKER_02 (02:05):
called...
SPEAKER_00 (02:05):
It's literally a reason to rise.
And when people read that book,yes, it's my story, though they
find parts of themselves in it.
And I'm really, really proud ofit.
And it being a movement rightnow that just, it doesn't even,
it's just, it's growing, it'smoving, it's cathartic, it's
doing its thing
SPEAKER_01 (02:23):
for sure.
I know I was, I've seen yourhead pop up a couple of times
now, both on a bus shelter andin the airport.
And there's something superexciting about when you see
someone you know be an author.
And I think I took a photo bothtimes, like, oh my God, like
super excited for you as well.
How, maybe let's unpack yourjourney a little bit as well.
(02:46):
And I know that this is, you'relike, where do I even start?
How did you become the Nadinenow and what have what has
shaped you to be the person andthe woman that you are to create
this big movement yeah
SPEAKER_00 (03:02):
how much time how many podcast episodes yeah yeah
look let us I'm gonna I'm
SPEAKER_01 (03:09):
gonna
SPEAKER_00 (03:09):
perhaps rattle off a couple of things of how A Reason
to Rise even got here and howthis story and this journey and
how I have become who we are nowand what our company gets to do
and what our purpose-led missionis and how it has grown its own
arms and legs.
Now, why I called it actually AReason to Rise, it's funny
(03:29):
because I actually finished thebook before it was called that.
I had many questions.
many uh book names it was goingto be in titles and then it's
actually a bit of a spin-off ofit not being the truth because
there's not a single reason torise so and the reason why i
share that now is because yourwhole life is literally giving
(03:50):
you reasons your whole story andyour whole tapestry is giving
you experiences to rise if we'rewilling and if we're desiring to
rise from them.
So growing up, again, you know,I like to say that I experienced
now when I look back, I hadbeautiful experiences as a young
girl.
I experienced things that meantI had to grow up really fast.
(04:13):
I experienced, you know, lifethat meant part of my childhood
was had to be hastened.
I had to grow up in a way thatnow if someone looks at how I am
as a way or as a way of being,it's all about play.
It's all about joy.
It's all about adventure.
It's all about experiencing lifein full expression.
And that is because a lot of mychildhood was me as an adult at
(04:37):
five or seven or 10 or having tolook after people around me, X,
Y, Z.
Fast forward, as a young adult,I joined the military.
I was an emergency registerednurse.
I was around a lot of trauma.
So So not only did I grow upwith a lot of generational
traumas and a lot of traumasthat I experienced, I then also
chose careers that meant traumawas around me all the time.
(05:01):
And I actually normalized traumaso much so that I would see some
pretty heavy things in theworkplace.
And personally and bothprofessionally, I was pretty
like numb to it.
And again, most people would saythat's what you have to do and
be when you're in those roles ofbeing a health professional or
being someone that has to dealwith that as an emergency
service you know, personnel,though, though quite literally,
(05:24):
you know, those things haveshaped the reason to rise
because, and, and me, because Irealized that, hang on, this is
not okay, that I am absolutelyfine with what I've just seen.
So, You know, again, it allows,and this is where the book is
just such a beautiful experiencefor someone to see and feel and
anchor.
What are you experiencing now,whether it's personally, whether
(05:47):
it's professionally, whetherit's how you've experienced
something in your lifetime thathas allowed you to go, holy
shit.
I need to open up my eyes.
I need to awaken.
I need to rise from whatever itis.
So there's been a lotpersonally, professionally, as a
little person, as a mother, as afriend, as a wife, there's so
many things that we'veexperienced that has led us, led
(06:08):
me to here that has allowed meto grow and heal.
And then now it's, I can't unseewhat I've seen.
So I have to share that.
I have to be the person that,that wisdom shares and becomes a
light or a beacon for otherpeople to do the same.
SPEAKER_01 (06:23):
I love that so much.
And And it's one of the reasonsI created this podcast is that
you use, like a lot of peoplehave a background and it's like
using that to inspire others andcreate impact in the world.
And I think that's why itresonates so much with you as
well.
And seeing your journey and whatyou've gone through, which I'm
sure so many people can resonatewith as well.
And here you are, it's like,hey, I'm human.
SPEAKER_02 (06:44):
And
SPEAKER_01 (06:45):
this is now what I'm doing.
And you're sharing it.
You're so open and raw andvulnerable in all ways as well.
And you're humanizing scene likeour experience at the same time
if that makes sense.
Yeah,
SPEAKER_00 (06:59):
100%.
You know, there's a lot of menthat are actually also reading
the book at the moment andwhilst they're like, okay, I
can't make sense of, you know, apregnancy riddled with
hyperemesis gravidarum or Ican't make sense of their own
experience of pregnancy loss ormiscarriage or trauma and
related to the feminine, theycan relate with certain things
(07:19):
outside of that because, again,it's a journey where it's like,
man, you've lived so manylifetimes before the one now We
have to share that because whatif someone else can resonate
with that, whether it's a man,whether it's a friend, whether
it's a colleague, someonepassing down the street.
So many people that have landedin after just seeing the book at
(07:39):
the airport, looking on thebackground, there's something in
that story that I know I have toread.
And again...
I think it requires all of us todo some type of sharing our
story, whether it's a book,whether it's something else,
whether it's a podcast, whetherit's a purpose, whether it's
simply just, you know, writingan article, whatever it is, we
(07:59):
need to share it.
SPEAKER_01 (08:01):
I love that.
Where do I even start with someof your journey at the same
time?
So
SPEAKER_00 (08:06):
you were...
Can you see how, like,there's...
I've just touched...
SPEAKER_01 (08:10):
Yeah,
SPEAKER_00 (08:11):
I know.
And you know parts of the story.
Yeah, I do.
It is...
a challenge to put it into onesentence.
SPEAKER_01 (08:18):
Yeah, and I'm listening to your book as well
and there's things that I'mfinding out that I was like, I
didn't even know that.
And all right, maybe let's talkabout your career and your What
was the moment that you're likesomething needs to change here
for you then to step into thisentrepreneur and we'll touch on
(08:40):
the coaching in a moment aswell.
But like what has been themoment that you're like, do you
know what?
The time is now.
Something needs to shift.
SPEAKER_00 (08:48):
Yeah, this ain't it.
Yeah.
So I had joined the militarywhen I was 17.
And by the time I departed, I'dspent almost 14 years there.
So that's, you know, I grew upin that organization and my
background and my history and mylineage and my bloodline is
hugely about the military.
So it was no surprise to anyonewhen I said, I'm going to join
the military too.
Like if anything, my mom waslike, really?
(09:09):
Everybody else has, you know,people would say to me before,
that's really brave for you togo to and do that.
Now when I when I actuallyreflect on that, that was
actually the easiest option forme to go and do.
Why?
Because it was so ingrained inme.
So whilst people think that'sreally brave for a young
17-year-old female at that timeto join a very male-oriented
(09:30):
organisation, it was actuallysafe.
And I really invite anyonelistening to this now, where are
you choosing safe options eventhough everyone around you
thinks it's brave?
Or everyone, you know, how itlooks, it may, like, appeal to
people being like, that's areally brave, courageous thing
to do, though.
Are you doing it because it'sfamiliar?
Are you doing it because it'ssafe?
(09:51):
Are you doing it because someoneelse did in your family?
It's like then, and the reason Iwant to touch on this is then
nursing.
I had a, you know, again,emergency registered nurse.
Wow.
Like...
I have a whole family full ofnurses.
Do you know what I mean?
Like I, again, followed the pathof other people.
Now, am I super grateful that Idid all of the careers that I,
(10:12):
at the time, definitely wantedto?
Can I hand on my heart say thatthat's what I wanted to do?
I'm going to say at the time,no, but that is what I knew and
I chose a familiar way of being.
So yes, there was a time in mycareer where I went I am to wig
all the things.
I have got all the accolades,all the achievements.
I've gone and done and been and,you know, ranked and achieved
(10:37):
and created.
And, you know, even from afinancial standpoint, I had, you
know, purchased my first home at23.
Like I did a lot of things.
And I remember still going...
This ain't it.
This ain't it.
And I remember, you know, then,you know, fast forward, I
transitioned into then becominga mother while I was in the
military.
And that was like, okay, themilitary worked until it didn't.
(11:00):
The military was great fortravel until I didn't want to be
anywhere other than with my homewith my baby.
The military was great until itwas like, hey, you've chosen to
be an extended breastfeedingmother.
You're now going away.
What are you going to choose?
And I literally had to stopbreastfeeding because I I had to
go away.
When I think about that now, nowI would go, hell no, am I
(11:23):
choosing a decision like that?
Then I did.
So there were a few personalthings in my motherhood journey,
in my matrescence journey, andthen there was a lot of things
that was happening in mymarriage at the time and a lot
of things that were happeningjust within myself where I just
went, I am...
not fulfilled.
I am not happy.
I go to my workplace and whilstI am great at it, just because
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you're great at somethingdoesn't mean you need to stay.
Just because you can continue toexceed at something that you're
there, just because you couldscale a corporate ladder
perhaps, just because I rememberjust seeing the vision of, okay,
I stay here for the rest of mylife.
This is how it looks like.
And that no longer was like, itwas actually a sacrifice I
wasn't willing to make anymore.
(12:08):
And, and again, when I waslooking at that, everything has
a trade off.
I was like, this is actuallycosting me too much.
So, and, and it took me a littlebit because, and we talked about
it earlier, the identity of
SPEAKER_01 (12:22):
me
SPEAKER_00 (12:22):
was like alpha female, military mom, woman
that's in the masculine that cando all the things, the great
boss, the leader, the manager.
I also was running the business.
I was doing all these things.
And I realized that it was thebiggest ego identity crisis that
I was actually in, that it waslike, who am I when I'm no
(12:44):
longer that person?
And I couldn't answer thatquestion.
So I was like, well, that's workthat you've got to do because do
you want to get to the end ofyour life?
I live by a thing of like livewith your end in mind.
And I remember being like, hey,if I'm going to live with the
end in mind, I'm going to be sixfoot under and really not be in
a position where I havewholeheartedly fulfilled what
(13:04):
I'm here to do.
Right?
And I know you can.
SPEAKER_01 (13:08):
Oh, 100%.
I can relate to that.
And I think when you'reemployed, and I felt like this
for a couple of years and justmade the decision to go
full-time into the business,which has been great.
And with that...
or the ego, Jess, that you'rejust excited as well.
But when you're following acareer path, you know that it's
(13:29):
not for you or, like, you've gotthat feeling, yet– It's scary as
all fuck to actually make thejump and to do something
different because you alreadyknow what that future looks
like.
And this one, it's theuncertain.
And you're like, you know that,yeah, it's familiar, it's safe,
and at the same time it's notfulfilling.
So there's bravery.
(13:51):
It's like you're dancing betweenthe lines for quite a long time
before you're like, hang on,something needs to shift.
That future I don't want.
I have no idea what this futureis going to be and I'm just
going to jump and trust God.
It will happen.
SPEAKER_00 (14:03):
Yeah.
You know what I always say toit?
It's like what's the worst thatcould happen?
Like I went, okay, I couldalways go back to the military.
I can always go back to myemergency nursing career.
So I just go back to what I'mdoing now.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, to your baseline.
If your baseline– then go forit.
(14:24):
Like I just remember being like,how am I going to make this
work?
We had so many things going on.
Like I really touched thesurface.
Dane was experiencing somesignificant mental health
challenges.
Like our life was really ridingon me.
So it was like, okay, right now,Can I make this work?
And here's the thing, and thisis why I love challenge and I'm
sure, you know, talking toresilience and how, you know,
(14:48):
the reason to rise and theawakening part of you that you
are thankful for challengebecause then it just redirects
you, right?
So there were so many, I callthem life fucks, life
collisions.
There were so many things thathappened all at once and all it
was doing was redirecting me.
And so I like to say that, youknow, If you are placed in a
spot where then you're like, Ihave no other option except to
(15:10):
make this, I get excited forpeople when people are there.
Because when there's safe boatsand when you can put on a life
jacket and kind of be like, oh,just go over here for a bit, it
makes it harder to make thedecision.
Whereas for me, my decision wasreally a life and death one.
for people around me.
And it was one where I was like,if I don't make some serious
(15:34):
moves, there's some bigcollateral damage.
So again, for me, I wasn'twilling to make those sacrifices
anymore.
And if anything, if I didn't, itwould be it's like wiping your
hands clean of some big thingsthat could have happened and
shaped my life and not just mylife then, my husband's and my
kids.
So, you know, again, I guess,you know, making it tangible for
people that are listening andmaking sure that people really
(15:55):
take away some things from this.
If you're at a crossroads, evenif you are in a great job and a
safe, secure position, and thenI want to say this again because
you're the same, I was the same,I know so many people, even if
you are great at what you do andeverybody tells you, But you're
great at this.
Like, you're an amazing nurse.
(16:16):
You're an amazing leader.
You're an amazing officer.
You're an amazing this.
Like, you get to go, yeah, Iknow.
The internal.
And that's, I know.
Should I live my life becauseI'm great at it?
And just do it because everybodyelse, you know, receives
something from that?
Or how about me?
Do you know what I mean?
I think it's really importantyou get to ask that question to
(16:37):
yourself.
Like, what about me?
Am I really fulfilled doingthis?
And here's the thing.
Your life is giving you cluesthe whole time.
All those things that I wasdoing, like now where I'm going
with or what I do now in servingpeople, I've been doing it my
whole life.
I've been leading people mywhole life.
I've been guiding people throughsome big things their whole
life.
Just my ikigai and my life wasjust beautifully allowing me to
(17:01):
be guided down those paths.
SPEAKER_01 (17:04):
How do you– Like I know you've got an incredible
mindset and you do see thesilver linings and, you know,
everything is happening for meand rather than to me and you're
like, okay, well, there's thewhispers and the signs always.
When big things happen, how doyou find– the courage I don't
(17:26):
know the right word here thecourage or the bravery or the
mindset to actually see that andthe lesson at the same time
because when you're in it you'rein it and you're like what the
fuck is going on how do youactually see it
SPEAKER_00 (17:40):
you know um People often, like it'll be, if I ever
leave a question for someone toask me, it'll always be like,
what mindset hack can you giveme?
And I'm like, I'll tell you themindset hack I can give you.
It's get the fuck out of yourmind.
Quieten your mind.
Don't actually work in the mind.
And I can say that because thatwas me for a really long time.
(18:02):
I was like, I will think and doand action and like hustle my
way out of this.
And it's not until you're kindof out the other, well,
definitely you're out the otherside of that, that you realize
it's the mind that you've got toconquer.
It's the mountain of yourselfthat you've got to conquer.
So, you know, for anyonelistening to this, if you're
someone that's like, okay, I'vegot to change my mindset, I
(18:24):
actually want you to actuallyreframe it all together and go,
where can I actually quieten mymind?
Where can I actually move out ofhere and move into here?
Where can I actually trust here?
Where can I actually trust myintuition?
What does my, what does myinner, I call it like your own
inner compass not the like yourown inner oracle not the deck of
(18:44):
cards that you're putting out topull out to give you the answers
I'm talking your own inner inneroracle if you were to put your
own fucking spread of your inneroracle out what does she want
what does what's the decisionthat you've got to make not what
makes logical sense you know Imore than ever probably now more
than ever um you know, I'mmaking decisions that people
(19:06):
like, whoa, that's like, but whywould you do that?
That doesn't make sense.
Retiring things, closing thingsdown, opening new things, doing
just, just playing.
Okay.
And I'm
SPEAKER_01 (19:17):
laid at the game of life.
SPEAKER_00 (19:19):
Literally, literally.
And it's like, I'm not operatingfrom here.
There's the, like, I willliterally go, I don't, okay,
what does this say?
What does this say?
And when we're operating fromthis energy versus this, holy
moly.
And it's not to say that youdon't utilize that to, you know,
make logical sense of things.
Again, take calculated risks.
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But I'm telling you, when I gotout of here and started
operating out of here, lifechanged.
And then like how you manifestand how you create change, how
you move change.
And then as your question is,it's like when you encounter
change, Yeah.
Yeah.
(20:16):
not just yourself, identities,past versions, you know, your
lineage, your bloodline.
There may be so many things thatyou have to release.
Yeah.
Though your mind doesn't knowhow to do this.
These two do.
SPEAKER_01 (20:27):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (20:27):
So it's just an invitation.
Because it depends where you'reat on your journey, right?
A lot of people are talkingmindset and that's cool.
You will arrive to a place whereit's no longer mindset.
Mindset is purely a distraction.
Mindset is a layer that hasn'tyet reached intuition and inner
(20:48):
oracle.
SPEAKER_01 (20:48):
So how do you tap into that more?
Because I know, and I'm guiltyof this as well, where you do
think things and you're like,okay, what is the logical step?
What do I need to do?
And when you listen to yourbody, it's a completely
different story.
And when you tap into that, sohow do you tap into that?
SPEAKER_00 (21:06):
So I want to first of all say this, notice how
force and doing energy and, youknow, living in the state of
what makes logical sense andutilizing mindset to make
decisions is very, well, it's ata dimension that most people can
grasp, right?
(21:27):
And because you already have theanswer of what it could look
like.
That then caps people of whatthat could look like.
Whereas the opposite is thetrust and the knowing and the
surrender and the deep, youknow, I'm going to say reservoir
of access that you have.
And I'll go down the how in aminute.
Though even that, people areseeking the how.
(21:49):
And if anyone is telling you orstanding before you saying this
is exactly what you do, you werebought that mission, you
unsubscribe from that spacebecause they don't have the
answers you do.
Do you know what I mean?
It's like how people tap intotheir...
how people tap into their inneroracle or whatever, you know,
different people wish to, youknow, call it or label it as,
you know, that is a uniquelydivinely discovering experience
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that only you can excavate andthat only you can remember.
Though what in all aspects itrequires is this stillness,
spaciousness, solitude.
So soul with an S-O-U-L.
And how many people are actuallydoing that these days?
Like how can we actually hearanything if we wish to receive
(22:38):
downloads or we wish to hearwhat our intuition or our inner
compass or our spirit or ourdivine being is?
How are you meant to listen whenwe're racing, when we're
running, when we're forcing,when we're operating out of
here?
Because here is an immediatelike block.
I'm not listening.
I only want to make sense of theoutcome that I know.
The other one is, as you said,it's limitless.
(23:00):
It is, you know, well, it's thelife that we're living now.
I would never.
So I shared about this recently.
I talked about, you know, moneybeliefs and healing your
relationship with money.
And a lot of the beliefs thatpeople had was people because I
dropped a Q&A box and it waslike, what's your current belief
of money that you know is a lieor whatever else?
(23:21):
A lot of people dropped in, I'vegot to go harder, work harder.
If I want to make double mymoney, then I have to work
double as hard.
And I totally can resonate thatbecause this has been in the
past, so I might totally get it.
But it's like at one point awhile ago, I had 23x my income,
right?
And I remember when people hadpopped that in, I went, do you
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think I worked 23 jobs?
SPEAKER_02 (23:44):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (23:45):
From me to 23x my income?
Absolutely not.
What I've learned and what Itapped into is a way of being
that had nothing to do withlogic, that had nothing to do
with my mind.
That does not make sense.
Like that does not make sense,right?
And again, if we're operatingfrom mind versus operating from
what could be like limitlessenergy, then those things start
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to become really normal.
So I guess the very first thingthat anyone needs to do is check
in on yourself with how much youare Forcing, racing, running,
doing everything that aren'tthose three S's.
Like how much do you sit instillness?
And I'm not talking to likekumbaya.
Like I am still, I'm a veryambitious woman.
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So I still do all those things.
Though it's creating space andtime where you have stillness,
you have space.
So space.
And I'm not even just talkinglike.
So silence.
Yes.
I'm even talking about space inyour home.
Like.
How much clutter do you have?
How many things do you have?
How many clothes do you have?
How many friends do you havethat are not, you know, fueling
your success or fueling yourexpansion?
(24:50):
You know, I talk about pruningthe garden.
So some of the first things thatyou can do now if you want to
tap into self is like look atyour life.
Do an energetic cleanup.
Start letting go of stuff andwatch the space that opens up.
So that's what I mean byspaciousness.
As well as if you want to frolicin the gardens, have space, go
and do that.
Though I'm talking about actualspace.
energetic space.
(25:12):
Do you know what I mean?
And, again, that's the healing.
That's the growth.
That's the transformation.
Just start there because, again,people think that they've got to
do these big things in order toget there.
If you just started with thosethree things, you'll actually be
well on your way to listeningand hearing, quieting this, and
then listening to these.
SPEAKER_01 (25:30):
I think you touched on such a really great point
there where especially careerwomen, and I know that we're
talking more about women here aswell because I feel like it's so
front of mind at the moment forme and you as well, that we are
like, oh, you have to do A, B,C, D to get that.
And, you know, like if you're amom, like you've got to drop off
kids, do everything.
(25:51):
You've got to wear all the hats.
And it's about the being, so theslowing down and tap back into
your feminine nature as well.
And what, Nadine?
Jean just mentioned there aboutthat inner knowing and that mine
is different to Nadine's andit's going to be different to
the listeners as well.
And so that's when people followa certain path, it's because of
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the people before them have donethat path, but that isn't true
to you.
And so when you quiet it downand tap into that, it's like,
well, who am I?
Yes.
And what do I need to remove?
And everything like that.
So yeah, everyone is individual.
And when you actually do that,you get...
those messages and
SPEAKER_00 (26:32):
what you need to do.
Yes, and you receive the answer.
And you said it great, like askyourself often, like when was
the last time, whenever I jumpon a call with someone or I'm
learning who they are, I'm liketell me who you are and then
they'll be telling me all thelabels and I'm like no, no, no,
tell me who you really are.
Like without mother, withoutcareer woman, without business
owner, without entrepreneur,without wife, all those, like
then who you are at the core?
(26:53):
Who are you at the essence?
What do you like doing for fun?
Like if you had nothing, how didyou spend your time during– you
know, some big events that havehappened recently or in more
recent years.
Like tell me if you're givenhours to spend with nothing, no
phones or nothing, what do youdo with your time?
If someone was to reflect onyour behaviors and your values
(27:13):
and your daily rituals, whatwould they say your priorities
are?
Do you know what I mean?
Like if someone was to– wouldsomeone bet on you if they
watched how you move during theday?
And when I say move, in allaspects, in all areas of your
life.
Like just start asking yourselfsome really big loaded
questions.
You know, you can start askingyourself, holy shit, last year I
said January.
(27:34):
It's now fucking March.
What am I doing?
Oh, my God, it's wild.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, okay, hang on, last week Isaid Monday.
It's now Wednesday.
I still haven't done the thing.
Like start asking yourself andhaving the courage, which we've
spoken about, having the, youknow, the– awareness your own
self-awareness to go where am Iactually not willing to ask
myself not by anyone else hardquestions or questions that I
(27:55):
must and I need to answer inorder to rise or in order to
expand or in order to whateverit is that you want to do and
therein you'll you'll see anyblock any any issue that you
know you're choosing to you knowstow away excavate keep keep
away in a in a nice little tidybox perhaps for later and it's
like well that's the issue it'sit's you're doing things later.
SPEAKER_01 (28:18):
And that's where the work comes in, right?
And sometimes that's the hardpart is actually going,
something needs to change here.
What needs to change?
And stepping into that.
And people fear change and theyhave to face some truths that
they might not want to hear.
And yeah, that's up to you.
And at the same time, if youhave that burning desire, it's
(28:41):
required what you need to do.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (28:43):
think like what is it about I have such an
interesting view on it toothough it's like what is it
about change that people notlike and again it's as you know
it's the it's the it's the, Idon't know what that's going to
look like.
I'm so used to this.
All right.
It's like, you know how peoplesay fear of success.
I actually, I, I have nowcoached that many women and men
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and couples and whole familyunits.
So I'm going to speak into womenbecause we're talking
predominantly about women today.
I'm going to say it is less morethan ever now, fear of success
and actually about fear of liketheir power.
Like, like, What would you calltheir potential fear of who do I
become when I actually am fullyme?
And the reason why I say that isbecause whenever I pose that
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question, I'm like, are youfearing success?
Are you actually fearing whatyou've got to let go of, who
you've got to let go of?
And it's often a relationship.
It's often friendships.
It's often identities.
It's so many things.
I'm telling you.
Yes, the world is saying it'sfear of success and fear of
everything else.
I'm telling you it's fear ofpeople discovering their power
and what that means for themwhen they do because that's
(29:49):
scary.
When women step into theirpower, it's a lot.
And if they do thatunapologetically, like untamed,
like if they do that in a waywhere it's like there's no going
back, there is also beautifulshedding in that and that is
what I believe people are scaredof.
SPEAKER_01 (30:11):
Yeah.
I love that so much and it'sbecause I feel it's because
we've been taught to aweourselves be quiet or you're a
little bit too much.
Just tone it down a little bit.
So, so many more women now arefinding their voice and stepping
into their power and saying, doyou know what?
This is me and this is what I'mhere to do.
If you don't like it, see youlater type thing.
(30:32):
And you're right.
I think people are worried aboutthat and what that actually
means for the people around themas well.
SPEAKER_00 (30:38):
Yes.
Like they're like, holy shit.
I'm my best friend is not goingto like that.
Holy shit.
My husband's not going to likethat.
Holy shit.
What does that mean for my kids?
Oh my gosh, that would mean Ihave to change my job or my
career.
Holy shit, that would mean theideal I have around this group
of people, like so much.
And yeah, if you want what yousay that you want, you have to
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be willing to let go of thethings that aren't going to
serve you any longer.
SPEAKER_01 (31:05):
How do you know if you're in your power and how do
you step into it?
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (31:11):
What we mentioned before is that a deep knowing.
There is not a– you cannotdescribe it.
You just– it moves you notbecause you have to think of how
you should move.
You are already moving in it.
It's like think about a personthat you don't even– you haven't
seen them walk into a room.
Though they've walked into aroom, you haven't seen them and
you just know that they'rethere.
(31:34):
So I'm not talking aboutexternally.
I want you to notice when youjust know that.
Like, it's so like, I want, evenif you're listening right now, I
want you to close your eyes andwonder, have you ever
experienced that outside of you?
And have you ever experiencedwhere you've been that?
And you're just like, oh, andyou've made an impact with less
(31:55):
words.
You've made an impact withperhaps no words.
You've been a way that you'veso, you're like, did I just say
that?
Or did I just be that?
Or did that just happen in mypresence or with my authority or
with my way of being or with mystillness?
Did that just happen in someoneelse by me being exactly who I
am?
SPEAKER_02 (32:13):
And
SPEAKER_00 (32:15):
that's it.
You're like, there's no way to,I've been asked this question on
podcasts many times, right?
And it's like, you can'tactually describe that because
it's a treasure trove that islike- And you can see it, you
know, you can see it in otherswhen people are there and it's
so beautiful when someone's justactivated it.
(32:36):
And then more than activated it,you know, then it becomes a
thing where it's like turns on,turns off, turns on, turns off.
And then when you've masteredit, it's just, that's just you.
SPEAKER_02 (32:46):
And
SPEAKER_00 (32:46):
it's not to say you then have peaks and troughs of
beautiful, like, though then itbecomes a dance of your feminine
masculine energy and that's it.
Though your power or yourability to just operate at this
beautiful self-blasted level isjust always, that's your
baseline.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah, again, I want everyoneto just take that moment, even
if that freaking pauses rightnow and be like, where have I
(33:07):
experienced that?
Where can I anchor that more?
Where do you feel that in yourbody?
And do more of that.
Evidence stack that.
SPEAKER_01 (33:13):
As soon as you said that, I'm like, I know exactly
what you're talking about.
You
SPEAKER_00 (33:17):
can feel it.
SPEAKER_01 (33:17):
You can feel someone's presence.
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (33:21):
And again, now that I've said it, Allow yourself to
be curious more of it around youbecause then you'll start to
identify people that are in.
And what's the greatest thingwhen you start to see it outside
of you?
You start to mirror it.
You start to see ways thatyou're like, oh, I loved how
they did that.
I loved how they responded withthat.
And then when you're curious ofthat, you can actually model it
(33:42):
from others first, see how itfeels within you, and then
create your own way of power.
SPEAKER_01 (33:49):
So great.
Yeah, I'm just like, I'm justdigesting.
You saw like my mind just tick,tick, tick there,
SPEAKER_00 (33:56):
didn't you?
I saw it.
I
SPEAKER_01 (33:59):
didn't hear it.
I
SPEAKER_00 (34:02):
saw it.
Yeah, it's
SPEAKER_01 (34:03):
there.
You mentioned about all thedifferent hats and the labels
and the boxes.
So pretty big question.
Who is Nadine and what is yourpersonal mission?
SPEAKER_00 (34:13):
Yeah.
So here's the thing, guys.
What if someone was to sharewith you it's, you have come
here for a reason.
You are here, whether it's yoursixth lifetime, seventh
lifetime, or you believe that,you know, you've come here and
this is your first, okay?
However that rings true for you.
(34:34):
Every single person, whether youlike it or not, is here to
create change within humanity.
Now, how that looks, looksdifferent for some people.
Some people are going to be loudand proud like us and create
platforms and voices and sharewisdoms this way.
Some people, it's going to be intheir home with how they parent
and with how they leadthemselves and their families.
(34:56):
Some people will be in aclassroom, whatever it is.
Then there's others, okay, andI'll speak for me here, who
decide that it's not one thingand who decide that they will
enter this lifetime and the manyafter it, because I know that my
work here will be beyond thisrealm.
You're like, yes.
(35:18):
Who it's not so much what youdo, it's what happens in others
when you do what you do.
So yes, we run retreats.
Yes, we run incredibletransformative experiences.
Yes, we bring people together.
We create communities.
Yes, I write books and I share,I wisdom teach and preach.
(35:43):
Though it's more I've come hereto share a message and it's
through story and it's throughresonance and it's through a
heartbeat that just beats.
Even if I didn't, I say this tomy colleagues and friends and
partner and all the things, evenif I didn't want to do this, I
can't not.
Like even if someone was tostrap me up.
(36:04):
It's driving you.
It's intrinsic.
It's not, motivation's notrunning this.
This is out of body embodiment.
Like, just hear that.
This is an out-of-bodyexperience that is so embodied
because it's a soul's, you know,contract at work.
So, you know, people say to me,you know, you work a lot.
(36:24):
And I'm like, I don't feel likeI work at all.
And, again, what work used to beand what work is now is totally
different.
I've definitely refined andchanged.
It's gone from, like, doing allthe things to being really clear
on the handful of beautifulthings that I get to serve my
mission into this world.
you know, it's less about all ofit and it's more about the
(36:48):
refinement of wherever I get togo, whether it's at the coffee
shop, whether it's here doingthis, whether it's someone that
picks up the book that I'llnever, ever meet, whether it's
the legacy that I leave behindwell after this, whether it's
the way in which I'm nurturingmy children.
Again, you know, it's knowingthat the work isn't actually
(37:10):
something.
And again, I want people toresonate with this.
I don't go, now I'm a mom.
Now I'm the boss.
Now I'm the leader.
Now I'm the coach.
Now I'm the friend.
I don't hat wear.
And I want to just get, I wantto just abolish even that
statement.
What is this statement thatwe're talking about hat wearing?
(37:31):
And I get it because a pastversion of me used to be like,
fuck.
And I had so many hats on myhead that I looked like Dr.
Seuss, right?
There was so many.
Though it gets to a point if youbuild your internal compass and
your mastery enough that yourpurpose, your labels, if you
wish to choose them or not,they're you.
And when you've arrived at thatnirvana in this lifetime and you
(37:53):
realise you get to share, topreach, to teach, to whatever,
you arrive at a place where forme I get paid to exist and be
me.
Do you know what I mean?
And I think that's a really...
For some people, they go, buthow?
And that's your purpose.
Everyone gets to arrive there.
Like I know that that's reallyloaded, though everyone gets to
(38:14):
arrive there.
And, again, I've done so manyloops and changes of that,
though it's all brought me tothere.
And it's a purpose and a knowingthat I want everyone to
experience because then itbecomes effortless.
Then it becomes flowful.
Then it becomes you're notexchanging or removing a hat.
(38:34):
And again, if you found yourselfsaying, hey, I'm wearing this
hat now, now I've got to take itoff.
What if all of those hats got togo?
What if the part of you.
that has a fucking hat cupboardfull of hats just went, I'm
going to burn all youmotherfuckers to the ground.
I don't want all of your hatsbecause I just get to wear the
you hat, the me hat.
(38:55):
And I'm going to super glue thathat to my head if I have to and
I'm going to choose that I'm notallowed to put any other hats on
there because I get toeffortlessly flow in all of
those without removing, moving afreaking hat.
Again, what if everyone got tocome to there with their
purpose?
Because then do you see howthat's healing in your home,
(39:17):
that's healing relationships,that's healing money beliefs,
that's healing friendships,that's healing the world?
Absolutely.
Have you ever had anyone answerit like that?
SPEAKER_01 (39:28):
No.
And like also recognising thatyou've been on this journey for
a while and you articulate it sobeautifully and it's for someone
that's just starting on theirjourney, you're just like, well,
how can I be me and show up asme when I have to fit in a box
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of corporate or I have to fit inthe box here?
And that's where owning yourpower and knowing who you are
comes like it's so important sothen when you are going into
that environment you can stillbe you and show up rather than
you know dimming the light typething um while you're there
SPEAKER_00 (40:08):
yes and i think you've touched on a really
important key aspect there ofwhere in every area of your life
are you not being
SPEAKER_02 (40:19):
you
SPEAKER_00 (40:20):
and and therein as an opportunity for you to go,
whoa, that's where I steer off.
That's where I've got to comeback in alignment.
All of this and all of reallywhat we've shared today and what
we're speaking about is all justalignment,
SPEAKER_01 (40:32):
going back
SPEAKER_00 (40:32):
to trusting, feeling, energetically going,
you know what, that's not forme.
That's not the highest selfversion of me that wants to go
there.
And again, whether you're at thestart of your journey or you're
Because, again, right now one ofmy favourite things is actually
leading people that have been onthe journey for a while and
they're like,
SPEAKER_02 (40:49):
oh,
SPEAKER_00 (40:49):
this again?
I'm dealing with this again?
You know, we recently went tothe States and, you know, we're
delving into some big work againourselves and just, you know,
opening up some things that, youknow, we decided to live in.
And it's just a reminder of,like, it is forever.
Yeah.
It is a never-ending journey.
(41:10):
And, again, I practice this, Ipreach it.
Forever a student, forever thelearner, forever the beginner,
forever the person that wishesto just go,
SPEAKER_02 (41:19):
ah,
SPEAKER_00 (41:20):
there it is again.
Ah, I see it.
And then, you know, those thatwe get to, you know, lead and
guide, when I see a past versionof me doing what I was doing,
then I go, that's why he or sheor them, if it's a couple, are
here.
And it heals the part of you andthat's what's beautiful.
Like, again, I know you get toexperience this with, you know,
coaching and mentoring.
(41:41):
It's like the parts of you thatget to heal is your supporting
and guiding and leading peoplethrough theirs.
Yeah.
And you just go, oh, that justunlocks something for me.
Thank you.
I know.
It's so beautiful.
In a transmission about someoneelse, you know, and that's what
we're all here to do.
And that's what I mean byimagine if everyone locked in on
that purpose for themselves.
UNKNOWN (41:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (42:00):
There's opportunities to learn in every
single interaction and growth isa continuous thing.
Like people go, oh, I've readthat book.
I won't read any more booksagain.
No, you'll get the next onebecause it's– and that's like–
that's life.
There's always more to uncover.
There's more to learn, unlearn,pivot, change, whatever it is.
There's always– yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (42:21):
And you know what?
I want to say this because– Reada book that you have read maybe
a few years ago that you likedand read it again years later
because you are a differentperson.
You then have, you know,provided that you've gone on the
growth journey.
So this is really for those thathave been on a growth journey
or, you know, you invest intopersonal and professional
development.
Read it years down the track andyou will hear a totally
(42:44):
different story.
I did this with one of ourclients, you know, Untamed by
Glennon Doyle.
It's just a great book and it'sa great beginner's book, I'm
going to say, that when you readthat book Yeah.
So true.
Yeah.
(43:14):
And
SPEAKER_01 (43:16):
that is so good because everyone and also your
message from that book is goingto be different to my message.
It's the same book, but you andI, we didn't read the same book
either.
No.
And then when we read it again,it's totally different.
SPEAKER_00 (43:28):
You know, this will sound funny for people.
It's like how do we know thatred's red?
How do I know when you say redthat you're seeing red?
SPEAKER_01 (43:36):
I know.
I don't know.
Who said that that's red?
I
SPEAKER_00 (43:38):
love this conversation, yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
Like yellow, okay, giallo inFrench.
Italy or like, I'm like,
SPEAKER_01 (43:46):
who,
SPEAKER_00 (43:47):
you know, and this is a conversation for another
day.
SPEAKER_01 (43:50):
It's a rabbit hole conversation, which I absolutely
love.
And as soon as I opened that up,I could actually go so deep into
it as well, which is great atthe same time, right?
What is existence?
How is this work and everythingthat you stand for, everything
that you believe in every partof your being?
(44:14):
and supported those around youand your family and the impact
of the people that you get tohelp as well.
SPEAKER_00 (44:23):
You know, and this is why I'm big about building
leaders or building people thatare in these spaces and build
heart-led businesses of servingpeople, right?
Because we don't want to be theonly ones that are doing it.
We want to create more peoplethat are out there in their
communities, right?
And so what's really cool is youstart this process your own
process of healing andremembering.
(44:43):
And you realize that, holy shit,the ripple effect is so big.
And so initially whilst it wasfor me and then whilst it was,
you know, for my husband, likemy marriage, my husband and I
and our kids.
And then, you know, further thanthat, obviously it went down my
lineage and my bloodlines.
And I was able to, you know, tapinto and connect with people
that in this lifetime I've neverknown in my family.
(45:07):
Then it was like, I call thiswork healing.
omnidirectional so it's likeit's not just you it's not the
future generations it's past youit's it's like it's it's the
pandemic that you actually wantright like it's it's the ripple
effect within your friendshipsyour networks your your like the
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people that you cross paths within the street I like again it is
so profound what happens andthen when you if if you choose
to make a mission of it whereit's then about serving others
Like the fulfillment from thatis just beyond what words can
even say.
It's an internal fulfillmentthat is like when you get to the
(45:51):
end of your life.
Remember how I spoke about Ireally live with the end in mind
really morbidly, thoughbeautifully.
At the end of the day, we're allgoing to end up either in a box
or six foot under or we'redeciding to spread our ashes
somewhere or, you know, we'reall going to end there.
And it's what you do in betweenthat time that matters is what
(46:12):
you're worrying about orworshipping that you're worrying
about going to matter whenyou're there.
I know for me I'll get to theend of my life whenever that is
because for any one of us itcould be at any moment.
I'll get to the end of thislifetime and go, you know what?
I know Hannah, my heart, I ledto my fullest of breath.
(46:35):
I, I, I supported, shared mystory, walks, truths, guided,
helped, supported so many, somany.
We're about to do it thisweekend, next week, every, every
day, whenever.
And again, we all do it.
If you're jumping on yoursocials and you're speaking a
story and you're sharing a truthor you're, you're just speaking
your, your, your truth, you'redoing it by doing that.
(46:56):
Yeah.
So, You know, it is the biggestinvitation for anyone in
whatever capacity that you'rechoosing to do it.
When you heal you, you heal allthose around you.
And for some people, withoutthem even doing a single thing.
So, like, I've reallybeautifully shared my mum's
journey online a fair bit.
(47:17):
You know, I'm half-philos.
I've got, like, the philo mumvibe.
Like, she's a vibe.
And without her doing anyhealing work, There's been so
much healing for her without herdoing a retreat, without her
doing anything purely becausewithin her bloodline, her
daughter chose to heal somereally big things.
(47:37):
I remember coming out of abreath work and my mum was
totally different.
I came home and went...
I did the breathwork.
She didn't do the breathwork.
Though through that breathwork,I met her seven-year-old self
and it was huge.
And I just, I'm not kidding.
My mum's, she's an older ladynow, but I'm talking, there was,
there were some lines here thatwere gone.
(47:59):
It's just beautiful.
Again, I...
I
SPEAKER_01 (48:02):
get like goosebumps just even thinking about all
this.
Yeah.
It's just...
SPEAKER_00 (48:06):
Yeah.
Or like, you know, you get to bethe conduit of your loved ones
connecting with loved ones andthe next minute mum's like, oh,
I dreamed about this.
And I'm like, wow, I literallysaw that in my breath work.
Like you open, you just open avessel or a way for people to
connect with people that theyhaven't connected with before.
And, again, I grew up in a veryCatholic household.
(48:27):
My mum is devout Catholic.
Though through these, myparents, of spirit and faith and
my own, you know, view of how Isee the divine now and my
creator and my God, right, she'sopened her eyes to what her
faith is.
To be honest, she has deepenedher faith in the Catholic
(48:50):
religion through a deepenedexperience of things that she
was like, wow, And again, that'sfor her journey.
And that's not to say thateveryone, you know, again, it
just allows you to crack wideopen.
And I think...
that is the ripple effect thatwe all get to go, well, then I
must, I have to, I'm going to.
SPEAKER_01 (49:10):
Yeah.
And I love that about your mumas well because like and you
said that she spends a lot oftime with you as well and she
probably sees that in you aswell and it's like the power of
proximity at the same time andyou being you, you're showing
her a completely different waythat she might not have seen
before or been a part of beforeand that in itself is incredibly
(49:31):
powerful.
A hundred
SPEAKER_00 (49:33):
percent.
And again, whether it's yourmum, your dad, your brother,
your friend, your younger self.
I just want everyone, you knowme, I know you're the same.
We just want to shake people andgo, I want you to see, like I
know that you can't see what Isee, though I want you to feel,
see and experience what I get tofeel, see and experience every
day.
(49:54):
And everyone's on their ownjourney and they're on their own
path and they're meant to do andexperience exactly how they're
meant to.
So when they arrive at a placethat allows them to see and feel
and experience what is theirNevada, it's beautiful.
SPEAKER_01 (50:07):
So I've been on this journey now for years and we met
a few years ago now and mysister just completed the course
that you and I did last week.
So it's like...
You know, I think by me showingup as me, she's now like, I need
(50:29):
to create change.
This is what I'm going to do.
She went home.
Her husband's now going to doit.
And I get like teary even justthinking about it.
They've got three little kids.
And I just think about by mebeing me.
showed her a different way, thatthen she goes home, that then
shows her husband a differentway, that then now creates a
different upbringing for herthree little kids.
(50:52):
And that is the power of thiswork.
Like by you just showing up, youdon't have to, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (50:58):
Like that's what I mean by that should be the
greatest pandemic getting aroundright now.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
And, you know, I will say it'salways– Personal development is
becoming a beautiful trend,which I love.
I'm like, if there's going to bea trend, I love that it's not
the Kate Moss trend.
It's not the, you know, drug andalcohol.
(51:19):
Like there is obviously goingto, that's always going to be a
thing for a lot of people,though there is a trend right
now in the youth and the youngergeneration and it's personal
development.
And I'm like, and breath workand meditation and all of this
stuff.
And I'm just like, yes, do youguys know how great you have it
that this becomes a standard,this becomes a normal and the
people that you admire or thatyou look up to or that you know,
(51:41):
mentors in the community in anyway, in your sporting fields, in
wherever, literally engaging inthese beautiful practices, you
know, delving into the work,whatever that looks like.
And however deep it gets to looklike, if we're just going to sit
in the mindset, perfect, that'sbetter than not.
If we're going to sit deeper inthe treasure trove, awesome.
Though they're on the journey.
And I think that's what'sreally, really exciting because
(52:03):
we didn't have that.
Do you know what I mean?
Like that was like personaldevelopment.
SPEAKER_02 (52:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (52:08):
It wasn't so readily available like it is now, and
that's why I scream it from therooftops.
People have got access to stuffall the way.
We know unlimited people thatare sharing free, beautiful ways
of being.
Absorb it.
Get in it.
SPEAKER_01 (52:24):
Get in it.
Get in it and absorb it andembody it.
Yes.
Yes.
Sorry.
My God, we've spoken about somany different things.
I know.
A while.
We've spoken about so manydifferent things.
What's one thing that you wouldhope our listeners take away
(52:47):
from this message and thisconversation?
SPEAKER_00 (52:49):
We've gone down many nooks and crannies.
SPEAKER_01 (52:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (52:55):
I will say this.
You cannot create the life thatyou truly want for yourself
without like others around you,your purpose, your ikigai, the
money that you might want, therelationship that you might
want, all the things, if youcontinue, yes, to reject the
person within it.
(53:16):
So I guess there's no way aroundit.
You cannot circumnavigate it.
You can have all the force.
You can have all theachievement.
You can have all the things.
And you will arrive at a place,even with all those shiny
objects, and still go, there'ssomething missing.
And the reason why I say rejectis because most people, that's a
later thing.
(53:37):
Or they're like, oh, that canhappen later.
So what if, whilst the worldwill tell you, go and do that
strategy, go and do that, go andbuild that business, go and do
that, what if the purpose alsobecomes you?
What if the reason, a reason torise is actually you?
And from that point, Holy moly.
All those areas of life, if youwant to call it a life wheel or
(53:59):
if you simply just want to callit the beautiful essence of what
this life is all about, everysingle area, every layer of it,
every beautiful thing that youget to experience and endure,
what if you're the center point?
Every mountain, that's you thatyou've got to conquer.
Every experience, that's simplyyou that you've got to conquer.
Every mirror, that is simply youthe whole time.
When people can arrive there,whoo, This conversation, the
(54:23):
internal belief, the internaltapping, the spirit, the
solitude, the stillness, thespaciousness, that will actually
set you in great stead, morethan great stead.
That will actually be thepivotal moment that will, you
know, everyone's asking for thetime collapse, everyone's asking
for the quantum leap.
UNKNOWN (54:40):
What if it's you?
SPEAKER_00 (54:42):
It is you.
What if the only thing stoppingit is you?
It is you.
Gentlemen, it's not the time,it's not the kids, it's not the
husband, it's not the...
the event that happened on theweekend.
It's not the cyclone.
It's not COVID.
SPEAKER_01 (54:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (54:55):
How many people in COVID during that time
flourished?
How many people were stuck?
There were people that decidedand there were people that
didn't.
And ultimately they decidedthem.
SPEAKER_01 (55:07):
Yeah.
I love that so much.
I think that is a beautiful...
Ending to the conversation aswell.
And yeah, your book isincredible.
So listeners, highly recommendto get your hands on it and read
it as well.
SPEAKER_00 (55:21):
There's a lot to it.
You've got to strap yourself inand there's...
It goes deep straight up.
Yeah, it does.
And that's important.
That's what I'm about.
Yeah,
SPEAKER_01 (55:32):
and it's beautiful.
And I really appreciate yourtime today.
I've absolutely loved theconversation and I'll put in
like where people can contactyou as well on it as well.
So thank you so much for yourtime.
SPEAKER_00 (55:44):
Thank you so much for creating spaces where people
get to share their mission andtheir purpose and share their
truths and stories.
And if you're listening to thisand we spoke about it before, if
you're listening to this rightnow and you are a podcast
listener, where are youlistening to all the things and
not applying things?
That's what you said.
Where are you doing all thepersonal development but then
(56:05):
not applying the things thatyou're learning?
Where are you not embodying thethings?
So, you know, if you've heardsomething today and you've wrote
it down, great.
What are you then going to dowith it?
What information have you nowgot that you're going to
implement or take action on?
Do that right now before youlisten to another episode.
SPEAKER_01 (56:19):
Yeah, that's perfect.
Thank you.
Bye.
UNKNOWN (56:24):
Bye.
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