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August 18, 2025 44 mins

What matters more for creative professionals—artistic integrity or commercial success? In this deeply personal and thought-provoking episode, host Yuhei Ogawa embarks on a spiritual quest to explore this timeless tension, inviting listeners into a rich conversation with creatives from diverse backgrounds who've wrestled with this very question.

Through intimate interviews and candid reflections, discover how artists, filmmakers, performers, and industry professionals navigate the delicate dance between passion and profit. From Hollywood's unspoken truths to the touring life of mega-star backup dancers, this episode reveals the real stories behind creative careers.

[Intro] Creative Directors Amanda Russell (Co-founder, CREAM Studio) & Kara Barnett (Senior Creative, Apple), plus VFX Artist Andy Milkis (Founder, Logik.tv), share their hard-won wisdom on balancing artistic vision with business realities. (5 min)

[Chapter 1 - "Artistry & Industry"] Theatrical Performer Phillip Attmore explores the artist's role in the business world, while Filmmaker Haneol Lee highlights what Hollywood fails to discuss. (7 1/2 min)

[Chapter 2 - "3 out of 10"] A raw journey through the film marketing trenches with industry veterans Benedict Coulter (Founder, REB3L), Christian Capello-Colon (Creative Director, Requiem), and Michael Blackburn, revealing why this field isn't for everyone. (11 1/2 min)

[Chapter 3 - "Dream & Reality"] Touring professional dancer Ian Mckenzie shares the surreal life of performing for the mega-star, and Producer Erica Kung (Head of Production & Creative Operations, Squarespace) discusses the crucial art of setting boundaries between passion and profession. (8 min)

[Chapter 4 - "Spiritual Growth"] Creative Director Simon Clowes (Managing Creative Director, Apple) reveals why he views the creative process as a spiritual practice. (6 3/4 min)

[Outro] Director Adam Reid on the ultimate creative challenge—becoming the hero of your own story. (3 1/2 min)

Perfect for creative professionals, aspiring artists, and anyone seeking to understand the complex relationship between art and commerce in today's world. Prepare for honest conversations that will challenge your assumptions and inspire new perspectives on what it means to create for a living.

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