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August 15, 2025 74 mins

In this episode, Andrew Nemr and Mike Freeman continue their journey with Chapters 8–9 of The Dark Night of the Soul by St. John of the Cross, delving into St. John of the Cross's concept of the Dark Night of the Soul and discussing Andrew's spiritual preparation for the presentation of Dark Night Live. They share personal reflections on sense deprivation, spiritual emptiness, and the importance of falling into aridity as it relates to the dark night of the soul.


Reading: Book I Chapters 8–9 

00:00 Introduction to The Dark Night Podcast

00:33 Andrew's Retreat Experience

01:29 Understanding the Dark Night of the Soul

07:05 The Story of the Traveler and the Dragon

12:56 The Concept of 'I' in Spirituality

29:21 The Paradox of the Gospel

39:46 Avoiding Deep Intimacy

41:52 The Night of Sense

43:50 The Love of God

46:16 Relational Aspects of Faith

49:40 The Dark Night of the Soul

54:28 Spiritual Practices and Prayer

01:03:31 Community and Support

01:08:14 Reflecting on St. John of the Cross


Related Links

Dark Night Project: www.darknightlive.com

Nemr Institute: www.nemrinstitute.com


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