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In a world where dating norms are evolving at a rapid pace, our recent episode of Dating Daycare took to TikTok to explore the burning question: Who pays for a date? We dived into live discussions where your input shaped the conversation, unpacking the emotional stakes behind financial responsibilities in dating. With a mix of humor, honesty, and real-life anecdotes, we navigated the complexities of traditional dating expectations versus modern norms, helping listeners navigate this jungle of jerks.

During our live session, we confronted challenging perspectives about gender roles, exploring how shifts in society—from the feminist movement to women's financial independence—have rewritten the rules of romance. We tackled the uncomfortable yet important topic of how these changes might impact the dating experience, and addressed some of the common pitfalls aspiring daters encounter when venturing into this space. 

Listeners also raised relevant inquiries about the nature of spontaneity in dates and how these varying definitions affect overall connection. Throughout the discussion, energetic exchanges and laughter encouraged a deeper understanding of shared expectations—making it clear that there is no one-size-fits-all answer. 

Join us next week for more fun and insightful interactions about dating in today's world, and don't hesitate to share your thoughts with us. Ready to dive into the realities of modern dating? Subscribe now and be a part of our community as we explore the intricate rules of romance together!

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to Dating Daycare where we help you
navigate through the jungle ofjerks.
And today we have an amazingshow because we're doing
something revolutionary.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Never been done before.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Never been done before, had the great idea
because I'm always on TikTok, asyou might know, the Tiki Talkie
.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
The Tiki Talkie.
This is new to me, yes.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, it's like dating websites to me.
Today we are doing an episodewhere we're live on TikTok and
we're filming in the productionstudio, so we thought this might
work really well for those ofyou that are TikTok fans.
If you catch us on a live.
We're going to do thisperiodically, see how it takes
off, and that way you can writeyour questions in.

(00:50):
We will see them.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
We'll go over them Live interaction.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
We'll be able to answer your questions live.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
You won't have to write in, so it's a fun little
thing.
I think, yeah, I'm excitedwe're going to do this quite a
few times.
That way you'll get to see ourstudio.
You'll get to see how we work,what we do Our outfits.
you know Our producer Rob ouroutfits, what we look like.
So it'll be fun because a lotof new people are like oh, we

(01:20):
want to see you live and I thinkwe're going on youtube soon,
can't wait.
Yep, we're gonna go live onyoutube because I know a lot of
people are like we want to seewhat you look like versus just
listening to us the voices, seeif they match right exactly all
that fun stuff.
Okay, so we've been on live fora little while and of course
it's going to take time to, youknow, acclimate acclimate.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
We got a very good question from someone.
We have to pronounce his namecorrectly.
It's Wise.
Guy, it's three letter wise andguy.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
So yeah, so he said who pays for a date, man or
woman, or the one who asks?

Speaker 3 (01:57):
And he says this is more of an ethical question to
him.
It's not.
It's not A financial yeah, afinancial kind of thing.
It's not a financial kind ofthing, so of course of our fans.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
You know what we're going to answer.
It's the man's job.
It's the man's job to plan thedate.
It's the man's job to decidewhere you're going to go and to
pay for the date.
Absolutely, protect, provide,take control.
Now it's our obligation to lookpretty, get ready for the date

(02:26):
and go.
And you know, talk, have fun.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
I mean, everyone has a kind of different perspective.
We're coming, obviously, fromthe place where women assume a
more traditionally feminine roleand the man has the more
traditional masculine role, butit's not necessarily assigned to
gender.
There are women who take charge, but generally they will do

(02:55):
better with men who are kind oflean back and let the woman take
charge.
That's not us, we're the otherway.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
But I don't understand.
There is not one logicalexplanation you can give me when
it's a first date and you'rejust meeting somebody for the
woman to pay.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
No, no, I agree, there's not one.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
I don't care if the woman makes $5.7 million a year.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
There are some women who feel that if a man pays,
that they owe them something.
There are women who really dofeel this way, like, oh, he
automatically thinks that he hasaccess to my body because he
bought me a plate of food.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
But that's up to the woman.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I mean that's on her, really, that's on her.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
No one has access to you unless you allow access.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, and it's just, it's just.
It's not sexy.
I'm sorry if I got it.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Ew, it's such a turn-off wise guy, Like if I was
on a date with somebody andthey even no.
Do you know what guys are doing?

Speaker 3 (03:55):
now in New York City.
We see this a lot online wherewomen say that if there is not a
connection on a first date andthe man feels kind of taken
advantage of or put out to thepoint that he will Venmo request
the woman for half of the costof a date.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah Listen, you can Venmo as much as you want, the
request would be denied.
You know what?
That's part of being a man, thepart you want to date a woman.
Then it's your obligation tohave a job, have money, ask the
woman out, plan the coffee orthe dessert bar or the
restaurant or the lunch or thebrunch or the movie or the

(04:37):
whatever it is If it's too muchfor you in any realm, it's just
not for you.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
If it's too much financially, it's too much
effort.
If it's too much effort andit's too much financially, it's
too much effort, you know, ifit's too much effort, and it's
too much financially for you.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
You don't belong in the dating pool.
No okay, because that means youcan't make a decision.
Yeah, you don't have enoughmoney to protect and provide.
I mean, I don't.
You know, if you can't pay fora date, you obviously can't pay
for your rent or your house oryour mortgage or your car
payment, or I mean it justscreams loser I'm being honest,

(05:08):
tell us how you really feel,honey.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
That's how I really feel.
So yeah, I think that was agreat question, and then this
yeah, okay, rob is scrolling up.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
We need to scroll down, scroll down.
So any of you that are justjoining, we are on dating
daycare today and we are goinglive and we are trying to get
some uh, questions, questions.
So please ask questions.

(05:41):
If you have an issue with men,women dating, question, anything
for us.
That's what we're here for.
If you haven't tuned in to ourpodcast, we've had divorce
attorneys on, we've hadmatchmakers on, we've had people
who navigate through the datingwebsites on Successfully,

(06:03):
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We've had therapists on andwe've had it all.
So please subscribe to DatingDaycare and let us know what you
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Speaker 3 (06:16):
Big ups to BigBear82, a UPS driver on break.
Thank you for listening.
Please subscribe and give us anice little review.
Scroll down.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Is it Down, down, down?
Where's Waldo?

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Hello from the toilet .

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yep, chris Q.
You're the reason why we havethis podcast.
Okay, yep, so anyway, we cantalk about other stuff too while
we're waiting here.
Like I said, if you're justjoining, please ask us a
question.
We want to try and go livewhile we're producing and taping
our podcast.

(06:59):
That way you guys could ask usquestions right off the cuff and
we can answer them quickly andefficiently.
Yeah, now please.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
So I think, a great question that you guys should
address, right now yeah, tell usabout women seeing men comment
on your feed like this yeah,does this ever work?

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Right yeah, right yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Awesome seeing men comment on your feed like this
yeah, does this ever work, right?
Yeah, awesome, yeah, right nowis this a successful tactic?
No guys seeing your feed rightnow and be like oh, two nice
ladies, I'm gonna comment to gettheir attention.
Okay, cool, no wedding ring now, hi, gorgeous.
Like, does this stuff actuallywork?

Speaker 1 (07:40):
see, but but you know what?
Here's the thing.
I don't think they're lookingfor it to work Like.
I think that guy probably wassitting there on the toilet.
He'll never see us.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
See, you know what Men grow a big set of balls when
they're not behind the screenand a computer and it's never in
the supermarket, in the produceaisle, never, no never.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
So I think all these, like this other guy commented
before, like who takes thebiggest dumps between?
Yeah, who takes the biggestdump between the both of you?
Like it's not, it's just meantto be annoying.
Oh here's one I'll be 60s.
You see, wise guy misses.
He's saying I'll be 60s, youmiss a lot of 60 is the new 40,

(08:31):
though don't, don't it don't besad, it is I'm sure you look
great but there are a lot ofguys out there that are
traditional daters.
They're still out and there's alot of guys that aren't.
But you know what, with thisnew wave, I'll tell you this
wise guy with these women andI'll say it because I'm the one

(08:51):
who's always saying what I feelwhen these women out there
decided to take on the man'srole because they started making
money in the workplace anddecided to start him something
and getting this sort of mindframe, it's not even anymore.
It's like off kilter.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, the roles are flip-flopped.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
The roles are flip-flopped and that's why you
have a hard time saying, oh, Imiss a lot of the traditional
dating scene.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
It's a whole big thing.
It's the post-70s sexualrevolution where women could
take charge of their fertilityand decide when to have.
It's all part of the thing.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
But you know what?
It's stupid, and let me tellyou why Because I love that the
women are going out there andI'm just saying I'm going to the
financial aspect of thisbecause otherwise there's a
relationship living with eachother.
Then you have, you know, I'mtaking the traditional role here
If it's not finance, then it'staking out the garbage.

(10:17):
Let's just take roles that youknow're used to men doing fixing
the roof, you know, putting ina new window.
So I'm not going to go to thatside, so I'm going to stick to
the financial side.
These women could have gone out, got their careers, got their
money and still said to the menit's for me, you still pay for
what you always paid for thebills, the dates, the you know

(10:40):
whatever.
And now the $150,000 I'm making, that's for me.
But they didn't do that.
They sat there and said, oh, letme start paying the mortgage
while I'm with you, because Ican.
Let me start paying for thedates, because I can.
Let me start paying for, youknow, the electric, because I
can.

(11:00):
And then the men got lazy.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
And then the men said that's what I'm talking about.
The polarity always has to bethere.
You can't have two masculinerole people, because you'll be
butting heads.
You can't have two very laidback feminine people or nothing
will ever get done.
So when a woman assumes thattraditionally masculine role,
the guy naturally just backs off, yeah, become, and then the

(11:24):
man's like this is great, I'venever had so much money in my
life.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Now I'm gonna go buy the car I want or go, and then
you're stuck slaving awaybecause you're still going and
all the money that you couldhave saved, ladies, buying your
own Porsche.
You decided to pay the mortgageand all the bills with, when in
reality, the man should havebeen paying it like he did back

(11:48):
in the day, and you should havebeen out there buying the
Porsche or getting yourself apair of Louboutins.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
But instead you wanted to pay an electric bill.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
I'll never understand it, but that's us wise guy.
Nowadays it seems like a gameof who conditions who.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
From the beginning, I get that I think there's a lot
of people look at dating andinteracting with each other as
like a game, and a game ofone-upsmanship who has the upper
hand instead of just and a gameof one-upsmanship.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Who has the upper hand instead of just?
But the fact that people, thefact that women or men even like
, for instance, who conditionswho With me?
Wise guy, you don't even getthe opportunity to do that.
So, for instance, if we wentout first of all, if you didn't
plan the date and pay for it,you'd never hear from me again.

(12:42):
So you never get to conditionme, because if you're not, if
you want to say old school,because that's how I am to a
point right.
It's just not a match for you,you wouldn't even get that far
with me.
It wouldn't even be a matchLike I'd be underwhelmed and
move on.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Do you think?
I don't think the feministmovement killed chivalry per se?
I mean, it's a.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I'm just asking do the feminists, do you think?
Do you all think, the feministmovement killed chivalry?
I think women getting into theworkplace started it all.
I do women's lib.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
No, it's very complex .

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Um it is but once women started getting into the
work field and being able toearn.
Where the men was the owner,you know, earner and the women
stayed home, the dynamic changed.
That's what originally changedthe dynamic when women were were
capable, able.
I don't know what way you wantto put it don't come for me uh I

(13:46):
mean I go and start working andmaking enough money to live,
yeah, but also I mean everyoneeveryone's um definition of
feminism feel is a bit different.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
I've always considered myself a feminist and
I always appreciated chivalry.
Like I came from, an upbringingin which like men did men's
stuff, Open doors.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
got flowers for Valentine's.
I mean we're talking basicshere, David.
Yeah, this is a question.
David says dates areunderwhelming.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
What do you mean, could you, could you elaborate?
What do you mean by that?
Because, I like dates, I do, Ilike everybody.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Everybody's gonna hate me on these lives.
Because, you know what myanswers to David is?
David, the dates areunderwhelming because you plan
them incorrectly.
That's your job, david.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
That's not our fault, David.
Tell me why you think.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
David, if the dates are underwhelming, you're a
shitty planner.
I don't know what to tell you.
Dave, Step up your game.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, like what Wise guy, I think planning a date is
so predictable.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Wise guy, if you live in Vegas, I could think of
about eight million differenttypes of dates that could be fun
.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Now, once again, the date should get funner as you
get to know somebody right, itdoesn't have to just be sitting
there having a drink or a meal,but go out and do stuff yeah,
you can go out and do stuff, butfirst you know we gotta take
step A before we can get to Z.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
You gotta see if you even like the person first.
Once you like the person, wiseguy, the dates should be endless
, especially in Vegas.
You got great weather, you gotall those fun hotels, you got
shows, you got restaurants, yougot strip clubs.
I mean you got it all out there.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I love.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
David, david, we need you on this podcast.
Dates are underwhelming.
I need David on here.
I need to know what kind ofunderwhelming dates David's
planning and he looks like alike I can't see the picture,
but you look like you have abandana or a hat on with the
sunglasses and you got thegoatee going.
I mean you look like anattractive guy from what I can

(16:07):
see.
I can't really see the picturesbecause they're on the screen
and they're small.
See, this is fun, see.
So, if you're watching us, ifyou're fans of us, we tape on
Tuesdays around 10 am.
What time is it now?
It's almost 11 o'clock, easternStandard.
Come on, we want questions.
We want you guys that arejoining to even ask us questions

(16:31):
as the woman.
Bring it on, like, if you don'tlike something about us, like
David here.
He said the dates are on, bringit on, I'm ready, I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
We need people, we need comments, we need social
interaction.
Okay, wise guy, he's our friendtoday.
That's why random is more fun.
Love the elements of surprise.
Yeah, once you get to knowsomebody yeah, that's great.
Like I had a guy, this oldschool guy that, yeah, that I

(17:08):
was with for a long time.
He was the best at that wiseguy.
He would like send a reallycute outfit from burgdorf, like
he knew, knew my size, he knewmy style.
He would send we were datingfor a while, I mean, I'm going
to say at least six months,seven months.
He would send a really cuteoutfit with a killer matching

(17:30):
pair of shoes and he would belike this weekend, you know, be
ready, I'm going to pick you upFriday at 4.30.
And we're going to go somewheretill Sunday and like everything
it was like a Thomas Crownaffair.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
It's hot when a guy does that Like.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
It means he has his shit together, he knows how to
plan Taking charge, he wants youboth to have fun.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
He's trying to make you happy.
He's putting forth some effort,effort.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
We like effort here at Dating Daycare, not like
David.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
David's back.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
David, you're back.
Come on, jamung Jamung.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Come on, guys, give us our questions come on guys,
give us, give us our questions.
So one element of spontaneitythat I do not appreciate and I
feel a lot of women do notappreciate early on early stages
of dating when a guy rolls upon you at like 4 4 30 on a
friday evening saying what, whatyou doing like meaning you're.

(18:38):
You know his original plansfell through and you're the
backup plan that's neverhappened.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, never happened, yeah what happened to
spontaneity?

Speaker 3 (18:48):
they would say, no, that's not the kind of
spontaneity we're looking for no, nope, yep.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
So I think the element of surprise is good
after you get to a certain pointyeah, I do yeah, but I think
that was good.
I think I think we did good ourfirst day.
I think I think, you know, astime goes on, we'll get more
viewers that'll be joining andwe'll be able to make more
episodes like this.

(19:15):
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(20:02):
process.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
But it's wild out there in those streets and we're
trying to help you.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, it's wild out there and we're trying to help
you but stick with us.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
We're going to end this episode because I think we
did good.
We had our questions, weanswered them.
I hope you enjoyed it.
Let us know, uh, write us,email us, let us know if you
check the show notes and uh,you'll have all our contact info
.
Yeah, and we.
We hope you had fun.
Yeah, and we will talk to yousoon.
We'll be back next week foranother fun episode of dating

(20:33):
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